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[00:07:29] <sogti> hello I am trying to compile a .java file into a .class file
[00:08:11] <sogti> I have been tried for a while I tryied the Build all and also the build Project
[00:08:29] <sogti> I am trying to compile some add - on to red5 system
[00:08:49] <sogti> I am using eclipse
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[00:10:33] <nitind> sogti: Is it a Java Project (created with the New Java Project wizard) and a .java file in a Source folder?
[00:11:20] <sogti> red5 is an open source flash server project
[00:11:36] <sogti> I imported the project to eclipse
[00:11:44] <nitind> Not the same thing.
[00:12:25] <rcjsuen> Just having random .java files in a random folder doesn't tell the system that these files should be compiled.
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[00:12:55] <newbie123abc> Hi all!
[00:13:40] <sogti> so how then i am telling the system which files I want it to compile
[00:14:12] <sogti> all I need is to compile this single class into the project
[00:15:21] <sogti> My knowledge in java can be defined as very poor
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[00:16:41] <newbie123abc> how can i change eclipse's language?
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[00:18:47] <rcjsuen> sogti: You should just make a new Java project and then throw your .java file in there.
[00:18:58] <rcjsuen> ~tell newbie123abc about babel
[00:18:58] <Arbalest> newbie123abc: Seeking language packs for projects at Eclipse.org? Take a look at the Babel project - http://www.eclipse.org/babel - You can help translate strings on the web! See here - https://babel.eclipse.org/babel/login.php
[00:20:13] <newbie123abc> rcjsuen: i would like to use eclipse with latex, by texlipse. I want to change spellchecker language
[00:21:07] <sogti> rcjsuen : I need all the dependence classes also
[00:21:39] <rcjsuen> sogti: Well, you would have to throw those in your project's build path too so it recognizes it.
[00:21:40] <sogti> and also I need all of the packeges
[00:21:47] <rcjsuen> newbie123abc: I think you change your dictionary in the preferences.
[00:22:19] <newbie123abc> rcjsuen: and about gui's language?
[00:23:13] <rcjsuen> newbie123abc: Did youlook at what Arbalest said?
[00:23:37] <sogti> what type of file I shold check in the "New" Window?
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[00:24:21] <sogti> Java Project || Java Project from Existing Ant Buildfile || Java Working Set
[00:24:26] <rcjsuen> The first.
[00:25:38] <sogti> to check "Add project to working sets" ??
[00:26:57] <sogti> I checked that but there where no working to select form so I didn't check that
[00:29:27] <sogti> now after I have a new clean project what is the best way to import the all working red5 server
[00:30:07] <sogti> I am going around this project for about 3 nights and days
[00:31:31] <sogti>  I can import the classes using General->File System in the import window?
[00:34:39] <rcjsuen> You'd probably have to add those jars to your project's class path
[00:34:44] <rcjsuen> or make a class folder and throw those class files in there
[00:35:02] <rcjsuen> tho it's not really clear tome what one .java file is for
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[00:36:33] <sogti> this is an open soruce server and I want to add a class to redirect the folders outside the root directory
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[00:39:20] <sogti> the tree of the folders is complicated
[00:39:48] <sogti> each server folder has is own src/lib/class folders
[00:40:10] <sogti> and there are also the core classes
[00:40:38] <sogti> in the bin directory
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[01:04:35] <Lars_G> Hi all.
[01:04:50] <Lars_G> Question, been away from eclipse for a long while, and I want to try it again for a few projects.
[01:05:10] <Lars_G> Question is, is there an easy way anymore to add the plugins of the galileo builds to a classic eclipse?
[01:05:31] <Lars_G> so I can mix a few (java, c/c++, php and mobile) in a single install?
[01:06:00] <NoobFukaire> yeah, go to help->install new software and choose the gallileo repo
[01:06:16] <Lars_G> Ah, thanks
[01:06:18] <NoobFukaire> it will list all the features available
[01:06:19] <Lars_G> dugh
[01:06:22] <Lars_G> duh
[01:06:25] <Lars_G> thanks :)
[01:06:27] <NoobFukaire> np
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[01:17:37] <district> what's the most lightweight unbloated JRE that i can use for eclipse (c/c++ version) on windows?
[01:21:59] <rcjsuen> I would imagine they would all be similar in size.
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[01:23:03] <NoobFukaire> district: what are you trying to do?
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[01:37:23] <ronghail> jdk?
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[01:49:23] <district> sorry, got distracted. i just need a jre to run eclipse, but don't want all the bloat (like browser plugins) that you tend to get with the standard jre package.
[01:53:03] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure how customizable that is. I suppose part of that may depend on your operating system.
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[01:56:00] <district> ok. guess i'll have to bite the bullet. thanks.
[01:56:33] <NoobFukaire> if you're on ubuntu (and probably debian), you can install just the jre and not webstart and applets
[01:56:43] <NoobFukaire> oh right, you're on windows
[01:56:46] <NoobFukaire> nm :(
[01:57:28] <district> yeah. fresh windows 7 that i really don't want to mess up quite yet ;)
[01:57:47] <district> but you're right about ubuntu, never had a problem there.
[01:58:16] <district> i'm just a little more nervous about windows, because i heard yahoo toolbar got silently installed via update a couple of months ago...
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[02:08:42] <rcjsuen> oh right, you said you were on Windows in the beginnig, whoops
[02:09:07] <rcjsuen> district: I've never heard that problem mself with Sun's JRE/JDK installations. *shrugs*
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[02:14:26] <district> rcjsuen_: perhaps it isn't as bad as i think
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[02:55:18] <black_13> can someone explain to me what the issue is here http://pastebin.com/m75d15ccf
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[02:58:53] <rcjsuen_> That doesn't look like a problem with Eclipse to me.
[02:59:33] <black_13> you know the java people said "ask in eclipse channel"
[02:59:40] <black_13> fml
[03:00:08] <NoobFukaire> #java is basically worthless
[03:00:10] <nitind> That makes little sense.  But the problem is that Apache Commons Logging isn't on the runtime classpath, even if it is on the build-time classpath.
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[03:00:41] <nitind> So if it's not on the Java Build Path, add it.  If it is, check GWT's launcher for some option to include it.
[03:07:48] <black_13> i see i may just go home and turn in i  have been farting around with this for about an hour
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[06:22:13] <multiHYP> hi peeps
[06:23:28] <multiHYP> i have an issue that my second GLCanvas doesn't render anything, also by relayouting the shell, the second GLCanvas doesn't fit appropriately, unless i start to drag i.e. resize the shell manually. what is the issue with rendering as well as relayouting??
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[07:02:11] <multiHYP> is it possible to hide toolbar or the entire coolbar on mac using that button on the top right of the window? like in finder or eclipse?
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[07:14:57] <atke> l10n question. I have keys like something_1 and something_2 which should be used at runtime like this: getMessage("something_" + value). Is there some existing getMessage() like object/method that I can use?
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[08:28:55] <nockle> Hi, hope somebody can help me: I opened an odt file in eclipse, changed it and wanted to save. Than the following error message occured "Could not save test.odt". When I was openinge the file again, there were really nothing saved.
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[09:06:10] <zayka> hi
[09:06:50] <zayka> i have an error while upgrading eclipse to 3.5.1 : BUILD FAILED
[09:06:50] <zayka> /tmp/portage/dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.5.1/work/eclipse-build-R0_4_0/build.xml:272: Java returned: 13
[09:07:36] <zayka> what does it mean?
[09:08:35] <nitind> Ask in #gentoo, Eclipse.org doesn't provide distribution-specific builds--it's all standard Java bytecodes in the end, so why even both rebuilding it from source?
[09:08:46] <nitind> both/bother
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[09:10:02] <sogti> hello
[09:10:17] <sogti> I am trying to compile aan imported project
[09:10:35] <sogti> I added only one java file
[09:11:31] <sogti> I marked the Build automaticly
[09:11:44] <sogti> but I can't find the compiled class
[09:14:41] <sogti> I think there might be a prbolem during importing the project
[09:21:44] <nockle>  Hi, hope somebody can help me: I opened an odt file in eclipse, changed it and wanted to save. Than the following error message occured "Could not save test.odt". When I was opening the file again, there was really nothing saved.
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[10:09:10] <multiHYP> guys, anyone knows how to get 2 GLCanvas to render inside the same shell?
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[10:15:32] <sloinn> is it possible to have a java and javascript nature at the same time for project >
[10:15:33] <sloinn> ?
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[10:33:28] <sloinn> or better question, are there natures which would be conflicting when used together
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[10:57:38] <tolland> Hi
[10:58:15] <tolland> i am editing some drupal files in eclipse pdt, and for some reason it won't let me associate *.module files with the php editor
[10:58:17] <tolland> any ideas?
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[11:18:51] <Wazzzaaa> CAn I develop Qt apps with eclipse?\
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[13:50:08] <hrad> hey, is there any javascript implementation for firefox ? the file one could download
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[13:53:30] <hrad> I'm learning javascript and I'd like to see the implementation how things are done....in eclipse there is only a library representing the class structure, but no actual implementation
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[13:55:09] <FauxFaux> The built in stuff in JS typically isn't implemented in JS..
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[14:00:31] <hrad> FauxFaux: by built in stuff, you mean the C part communicating with layout engine API ?
[14:00:55] <FauxFaux> I assume you meant the implementation of, say, sorting arrays, ..
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[14:02:00] <hrad> FauxFaux: ouch, I'm on eclipse channel :) I didn't notice
[14:02:56] <hrad> FauxFaux: I'm talking about this, from JSDT doc:  "  the JSDT contains a FireFox library plugin with about 150k of JavaScript and JsDoc. This library represents the class structure within the FireFox browser that is accessible to a web page's JavaScript, but does not contain any implementation to the functions it declares. If a user wishes to target their JavaScript source to FireFox specifically, they would add the FireFox library
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[14:06:48] <hrad> FauxFaux: I'm more of a enterprise Java guy, so I don't exactly know, how much of it is implemented in C and how much in Javascript, but when I look at the file ...metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.core/libraries/FireFox2.0.0.3.js  ...it seems like interfaces only
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[14:11:54] <hrad> does being quiet mean that almost everything is implemented as part of the interpret :) ?
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[14:16:02] <hrad> I think I was just confused by what is written in JSDT documentation, they put it in a way that it sounds like there is another global JS file with more than just class structer
[14:16:07] <hrad> *structure
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[14:35:00] <atke> l10n question. I have keys like something_1 and something_2 which should be used at runtime like this: getMessage("something_" + value). Is there some existing getMessage() like object/method that I can use?
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[14:44:55] <rcjsuen> atke: You'd use a ResourceBundle for that I suppose.
[14:45:51] <atke> rcjsuen: so there's nothing eclipse specific. ok, thanks.
[14:46:26] <rcjsuen> for Eclipse plug-ins the NLS class is used
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[15:05:03] <new2> hi. would somebody help me figuring out why php pages, created in workspace in eclipse are not running (neither debugging) in browser? other pages, located directly on my docroot run without problem
[15:09:10] <new2> nobody's ever answering this question....
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[15:50:47] <multiHYP> how can i have multiple GLCanvas widgets inside a single shell?
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[18:02:57] <Abhinav1> I am new to eclipse and want to create a makefile project for linux, but in my eclipse makefile project is not listed when I create a new project although CDT is installed
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[18:12:45] <rcjsuen_> Abhinav1: Do you even spot CDT things in the preferences though?
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[18:25:53] <Abhinav1> rcjsuen_: I have checked that, there is it.
[18:27:10] <Abhinav1> rcjsuen_: can you tell me how can i configure eclipse to compile my project which require gtk+2.0 and gstreamer-0.10 libs
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[18:28:47] <rcjsuen_> Abhinav1: I don't do C/C++, can't help you there.
[18:29:07] <Abhinav1> rcjsuen_: No problem, thanks
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[18:35:32] <endra> Abhinav1: I don't remember exactly but go to project properties -> C/C++ -> compiler -> add include libraries, also you might have to link them.. same story but instead of 'compiler' add them to 'linker'
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[19:09:36] <vwegert> Is there an extensible wizard to deliver installable sample projects along with a set of plug-ins?
[19:09:53] <vwegert> Something that hooks into the New Project wizard and lets me insert stuff there?
[19:10:15] <vwegert> I can see something like this in o.e.emf.example.installer, but I don't want to depend on EMF there...
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[19:16:37] <elnovato1> oh jezzz im sick of all this eclipse bugs
[19:16:46] <elnovato1> buttons doesnt even work
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[19:20:22] <rcjsuen> vwegert: I think the new project wizard can be subclassed.
[19:20:29] <rcjsuen> elnovato1: Are you on Linux?
[19:20:37] <elnovato1> yeh
[19:20:43] <rcjsuen> elnovato1: what distro/version?
[19:21:24] <elnovato1> fedora 12
[19:21:26] <vwegert> rcjsuen: I don't want to write all this stuff - might have to steal^Wcopy from EMF then
[19:21:52] <elnovato1> rcjsuen:  but im using the version from eclipse site
[19:22:06] <rcjsuen> elnovato1: the buttons in dialogs don't work when you click them but work with the keyboard, right?
[19:22:06] <vwegert> But there's something else that's bothering me - "import plug-in as source" doesn't work the way I remember it
[19:22:32] <vwegert> it does not create a source folder but drops the jar'ed sources in the project root
[19:22:39] <vwegert> is that intended?
[19:23:21] <elnovato1> rcjsuen: yeah, also, the + on the project browser doesnt expand subdirectories
[19:23:37] <rcjsuen> elnovato1: See FAQ in channel topic.
[19:24:46] <elnovato1> i guess ill return to Vi
[19:26:03] <rcjsuen> elnovato1: If that's what you want to do instead of trying the suggested solutions, then so be it. Best of luck with your project! :)
[19:28:02] <elnovato1> nothing there about the issues
[19:28:04] <elnovato1> irc faq
[19:28:13] <rcjsuen> elnovato1: Did you look at 3.8?
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[19:30:27] <elnovato1> still doesnt work
[19:30:34] <elnovato1> i cant see the subdirectories contents
[19:30:56] <rcjsuen> I haven't heard anyone have that particular problem but the buttons one comes up every day.
[19:31:20] <elnovato1> the script explorer shows only the root level, not the subdirectories
[19:31:31] <elnovato1> the + doesnt work on click or anything
[19:31:51] <rcjsuen> Do all trees exhibit that problem?
[19:32:45] <elnovato1> yes
[19:32:54] <elnovato1> none of them expands
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[19:34:58] <elnovato1> its so annoying
[19:35:23] <rcjsuen> I suggest you file a bug.
[19:36:33] <elnovato1> have no time for that, ill just use gedit or vim
[19:36:51] <rcjsuen> Good luck with your project then.
[19:37:03] <rcjsuen> Sorry things didn't work out for you.
[19:37:16] <elnovato1> ty
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[20:18:24] <linkz0r> hi, is there a way to navigate over all classes of a package or a project on a Java perspective (on the outline view for example)?
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[20:29:58] <rcjsuen> linkz0r: YOu could select the project and then hit F4 I guess.
[20:30:10] <rcjsuen> Or use theJava browsing perspective.
[20:33:21] <linkz0r> heh the latter worked, thanks rcjsuen
[20:35:10] <elnovato1> oh now works!
[20:35:14] <elnovato1> it was permissions, LOL
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[21:34:41] <brian3> Can someone help me figure out why Eclipse isn't showing me plugins for any Update Sites?
[21:35:06] <brian3> I've been googling around but haven't found anything useful :(
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[21:35:36] <brian3> I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 x64 on an Aluminum iMac 7,1
[21:35:44] <brian3> Running 32-bit Java / Eclipse
[21:36:10] <brian3> (Eclipse 3.5 w/ PDT)
[21:36:24] <brian3> Anyone?
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[21:37:32] <brian3> Are there any Eclipse Gurus here??
[21:37:41] <district> does anybody know where the option to "save before build" is in c/c++ mode? i've completely lost it.
[21:39:09] <brian3> Does anyone know why the "Install New Software" window in Eclipse would not render the plugin options for update sites?
[21:39:26] <brian3> I know the sites work, I know the plugins are there, but they aren't showing up so I can't select and install them!
[21:39:34] <district> nevermind, found it.
[21:39:38] <district> third time's the charm
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[21:44:34] <cinch> brian3: i think thats a eclipse bug that's been fixed in a newer version
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[21:44:48] <brian3> I'm pretty sure I have the latest version
[21:44:59] <brian3> I mean, the latest "stable" or whatever
[21:45:12] <brian3> downloaded the 32-bit PDT all-in-one
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[21:45:19] <cinch> yea try a newer one, here's a link
[21:45:44] <cinch> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/M20091202-0800/index.php
[21:46:18] <cinch> i had that too, and it's a gtk bug that they've mostly fixed (if its what u have)
[21:46:43] <brian3> it says the gtk version is "X" status..
[21:48:23] <cinch> hmm, try http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ the 3.5.2 stream build from M20091125-1042
[21:48:57] <cinch> or no wait.. that one's too old
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[21:49:31] <cinch> im on x86_64/GTK 2 so there was no X..
[21:50:01] <brian3> hm well i can try it
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[22:09:56] <brian3> cinch: I tried installing the 32-bit M20091216-0800 release. The list still does not display Plugins! Oddly though, this time I am able to click on the empty white space and select a plugin.
[22:10:56] <brian3> In other words: When I mouse-over the place where the plugin I'm looking for should be, the little drop-down arrow appears momentarily, and if I click immediately to the right of that, the "Next" button highlights and I can continue and install my plugin.
[22:12:06] <brian3> wow, weird. This time I clicked "Back" after that, and the list shows up correctly!
[22:12:14] <cinch> i got that too
[22:12:40] <brian3> well then.. I guess thats better than nothing lol..
[22:12:44] <cinch> minimizing eclipse and reclicking it, then the update window shows the contents
[22:13:23] <brian3> hm that didnt work for me on the all-in-one pdt release, but i havent tried it on this version.
[22:13:26] <cinch> in the stable build i had to use keyboard shortcuts to click a button.. lol
[22:13:47] <brian3> lol fun
[22:13:57] <brian3> O actually me too
[22:14:04] <brian3> I couldnt click buttons, I had to press enter, etc
[22:15:43] <brian3> hm minimizing doesnt help for me
[22:16:22] <brian3> but clickin the down-arrow on a plugin-group shows the list.
[22:16:48] <brian3> wish there was a java/gtk expert present to take note ;)
[22:17:06] <brian3> anyway cinch your suggestions have been super helpful, thanks!
[22:17:21] <cinch> your welcome :)
[22:23:23] <NoobFukaire> brian3: http://mou.me.uk/2009/10/31/fixing-eclipse-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
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[22:24:30] <brian3> That's it! That's what I've been looking for all day.
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[22:32:42] <rcjsuen> brian: The M20091216 doesn't include the tree fix but should have thebuttons fix.
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[22:33:33] <udp11> Hello, is gallileo latest eclipse version name?
[22:34:33] <rcjsuen> udp11: It's the name of the latest stable simultaneous release, yes.
[22:34:36] <udp11> Anyway, I am going through the Eclipse SWT tutorial , and it gives me this link http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ to download SWT from, but there is no SWT binaries there, there is only Eclipse SDK which has 152 mb
[22:35:17] <udp11> Is that right link?
[22:35:21] <rcjsuen> That link looks right to me.
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[22:36:49] <rcjsuen> udp11: what page are you looking at ?
[22:37:02] <udp11> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5.1-200909170800/eclipse-SDK-3.5.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[22:37:03] <udp11> Here
[22:37:06] <udp11> It's odd
[22:37:16] <udp11> rcjsuen..
[22:37:18] <rcjsuen> Well, that's a direct link to thedownload
[22:37:24] <udp11> Yes, but is it SWT
[22:37:32] <udp11> afaik, SWT had less than 152 mb's
[22:37:35] <rcjsuen> so rather
[22:37:38] <rcjsuen> you were looking at this page? http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5.1-200909170800/index.php
[22:38:04] <udp11> Yeah, rcjsuen, so is that SWT?
[22:38:16] <rcjsuen> there are SWT downloads on that page I linked
[22:38:23] <rcjsuen> what you provided is the Eclipse SDK download
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[22:38:52] <udp11> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5.1-200909170800/index.php
[22:38:57] <rcjsuen> yes on that page
[22:39:06] <rcjsuen> you can get standalone SWT there
[22:39:19] <udp11> Foundit
[22:39:25] <rcjsuen> well then
[22:40:26] <rcjsuen> That wasn't so hard I hope. :)
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[22:53:24] <jair> NoobFukaire: how are you thank you very much for your help on the link to download the eclipse-PDT for debian linux =)
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[22:53:35] <NoobFukaire> np, doing good
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[22:54:44] <jair> well I am a little confuse with how can i use it.  Or install it.  I downloaded the tar.gz file into the linux server and uncompress the directory inside "/var/www/"
[22:54:54] <jair> NoobFukaire: the directory is called "eclipse"
[22:55:31] <NoobFukaire> Well Eclipse is usually a client side tool for developing things, what are you trying to do?
[22:55:32] <jair> so I can go inside of it doing: 192.168.1.xxx/eclipse/
[22:56:59] <jair> I am following the book called learning php, mysql & java script from Oreilly by Robin Nixon
[22:57:21] <jair> NoobFukaire: I am trying to set it up as my Integrated Development Environment
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[22:57:42] <NoobFukaire> ah, well you're not going to want to put eclipse in your webserver
[22:57:47] <rcjsuen> indeed
[22:57:54] <rcjsuen> Seems like some strange instructions
[22:58:01] <jair> ohh ok, I should put it on my home directory or something like that
[22:58:11] <NoobFukaire> yeah or /opt/
[22:58:33] <jair> well that was actually me and using something similar to Rails a framework env.
[22:58:37] <jair> ok
[22:58:46] <jair> let me put it on /opt/
[22:58:53] <NoobFukaire> You should install apache and php also, they're in apt
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[22:59:07] <jair> and I guess I will need to have it own by one of my regular users not need to be run by root correct?
[22:59:33] <NoobFukaire> it depends, if you don't have write permissions for /opt/eclipse (or whatever), eclipse will create it's metadata in your user directory
[22:59:40] <jair> I already have php5, apache2 and mysql5, all configured with their modules etc...
[22:59:51] <jair> great
[22:59:54] <NoobFukaire> ok cool, you should be pretty close to first test :)
[23:00:13] <jair> I will put it on the /opt/ as all the other files installed there.
[23:00:19] <jair> yes correct
[23:00:32] <jair> but It is the first time I am using eclipse as you can see
[23:00:50] <jair> and I am not a programmer I am a Linux systems administrator
[23:01:05] <jair> but I am trying to learn and grow on knowledge.
[23:01:38] <jair> does this mean that I will need to install Xorg or X in the server to run eclipse correct?
[23:01:54] <jair> it needs to have X because it is a graphical tool?
[23:01:54] <NoobFukaire> You're running this on your local machine right? With a monitor?
[23:02:17] <jair> yes but I do not have gnome or X installed on the system.
[23:02:38] <NoobFukaire> yeah, you're going to want X and probably gnome (at least GTK or Motif)
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[23:03:59] <jair> NoobFukaire: I see
[23:04:15] <jair> I was trying to keep the server "Fat Free" =)
[23:04:22] <NoobFukaire> Motif is lighter than GTK+
[23:04:26] <NoobFukaire> but it's fugly ;)
[23:04:32] <jair> LOL
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[23:04:55] <jair> ok I guess I can install X and then export X
[23:05:43] <jair> I was looking on the wiki for the eclipse and if I will be using it for php prpgraming do I still need the java requirement dependencies?
[23:06:55] <rcjsuen> Well, you need a JRE.
[23:07:02] <jair> I see exactly what it is now.  It is a client tool to program php and java script and html.
[23:07:09] <jair> rcjsuen: right I noticed that =(
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[23:08:09] <jair> alright thank you so much again.  Now I se what this will be doing and what does it need to be started.
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[23:13:45] <jair> NoobFukaire: thank you so much again
[23:13:57] <NoobFukaire> np, gl with your research
[23:14:22] <jair> rcjsuen: thank you for the JRE suggestion I will try to get a requirements page before I start the eclipse executable ./eclipse I guess.
[23:14:27] <jair> ok
[23:14:31] <jair> later guys
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[23:33:36] <jair> NoobFukaire: last thing. I downloaded the eclipse-pdt on my desktop (cliet) which has gnome, X, etc... can I just run and program and use eclipse there even when is 64bit? and program applications for 32bit? we applications I ment?
[23:34:03] <NoobFukaire> Eclipse supports both 32 and 64 bit
[23:34:18] <NoobFukaire> With PHP, there isn't much in the way of architecture concerns
[23:34:26] <jair> NoobFukaire: because that way i can just run and install eclipse on that machine and develop and connect to the server (fat free) which have running php5, mysql-server5, apache2 =)
[23:34:44] <jair> alright. that looks like will work for me then
[23:34:44] <NoobFukaire> well usually you'd have a server setup on your local development machine





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