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[01:21:11] <herlimenezes> Hello, good night (I am at -3 GMT)
[01:21:31] <herlimenezes> Need some help here.
[01:22:54] <herlimenezes> I've got some warning about Maven plugin. It says I must point -vm to JRE. Please, how can i  do that?
[01:23:33] <rcjsuen> you can do that in the command line or thru the eclipse.ini file
[01:23:34] <rcjsuen> ~vm
[01:23:34] <Arbalest> To start Eclipse with a specific Java VM, you should start Eclipse with the -vm argument. This should look something like 'eclipse.exe -vm C:\jdk1.5.0.6\bin\java.exe' or './eclipse -vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.03/bin/java'. Note that the path of the 'java' executable is being passed and _not_ a folder.
[01:23:36] <rcjsuen> ~eclipse.ini
[01:23:36] <Arbalest> Want to set startup flags for eclipse, like -vm, -vmargs, or -consolelog? Edit your eclipse.ini file. - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse.ini - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_run_Eclipse%3F#eclipse.ini
[01:25:45] <herlimenezes> Arbalest: excuse me, Im not an experienced Eclipse user. Im running Eclipse at a Linux 64 machine, distro Fedora 11. I have edited Eclipse.ini but dont know what to do...
[01:28:23] <rcjsuen> maybe your edits are incorrect, you should put the contents in a ~pastebin so others can examine it and see if there are any problems
[01:28:23] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[01:28:56] <herlimenezes> ok, i will do it...
[01:29:52] <herlimenezes> Arbalest: http://www.pastebin.cz/28906
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[01:31:51] <rcjsuen> It doesn't seem like you have edited the file.
[01:32:14] <herlimenezes> ok, I have just opened it...
[01:32:34] <herlimenezes> using gedit
[01:34:20] <rcjsuen> Did you check the wiki pages Arbalest provided
[01:36:00] <herlimenezes> ok, I got some exemple for linux. Reading as: vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02/bin/java
[01:36:16] <herlimenezes> so i must to include this line at Eclipse.ini, ok?
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[01:40:58] <herlimenezes> Let me tell the whole history. I need to use Maven in order to write some Jena applications. I downloaded it, and installed. As I tryied running eclipse I got the warning I quote.
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[01:42:17] <rcjsuen> what you pasted is almost correct, i suggest you double-check the wiki pg
[01:42:37] <herlimenezes> ok, i will do it
[02:01:18] <rcjsuen> herlimenezes: Any luck with your file?
[02:02:15] <barnaby_b> I'm trying to run django runserver in Eclipse (to use the debugger), but it just freezes. I can run django unit tests in Eclipse just fine, but for some reason the runserver command hangs
[02:05:52] <herlimenezes> Something has changed...but warning still remains...
[02:07:45] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: it says "The Maven integration requires that Eclipse be running in a JDK, because a number of Maven core plugins are using jars from JDK.
[02:08:28] <herlimenezes> "Please make sure the -vm option in eclipse.ini is pointing to a JDK and verify installed JREs are also using JDK installs"
[02:08:49] <herlimenezes> I dont know what to do to resolve this warning...
[02:09:53] <herlimenezes> At Maven console I got this: 23/12/09 22h16min41s GMT-03:00: Eclipse is running in a JRE, but a JDK is required
[02:09:53] <herlimenezes>   Some Maven plugins may not work when importing projects or updating source folders.
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[02:11:17] <herlimenezes> there is also this info: [INFO] User settings file does not exist /home/Herli/.m2/settings.xml
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[02:12:10] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: should I create it manually?
[02:13:05] <rcjsuen> herlimenezes: what does your ini file look like now?
[02:13:56] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: just a second...
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[02:15:39] <herlimenezes> I have initally changed -vm line as wiki pg...I got an error...
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[02:16:18] <herlimenezes> so I let -vm blank... maven apparently was loaded with that warning...
[02:16:55] <herlimenezes> I guess if Maven is correclty loaded, .m2 file will be created...
[02:17:58] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: On the other side, wiki page says that I must point -vm to a file, not just to a folder...but which file?
[02:18:24] <rcjsuen> your /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02/bin/java sounds right
[02:19:15] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: it should be ok, but there is no such file at /opt folder...
[02:20:02] <rcjsuen> well it should point to wherever your java/jvm binary is
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[02:22:56] <herlimenezes> this is a point: where  is java/jvm?
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[02:23:33] <rcjsuen> Could be anywhere. I don't know where you installed it or where your distribution installed it.
[02:23:54] <rcjsuen> In Gentoo they put it in /opt/.
[02:24:20] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: opt folder is organized as: opt/jre1.6.0_10_x64/bin, lib, man
[02:24:43] <rcjsuen> Well that's just a JRE not a JDK.
[02:24:50] <herlimenezes> yes...
[02:25:34] <herlimenezes> I will search for it...
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[02:31:50] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: I found  java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64 at usr/lib/jvm i will try this...
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[02:52:44] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: I have changed Eclipse.ini, but nothing new...
[02:53:14] <rcjsuen> what did you change it to
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[03:08:29] <multiHYP> can someone please explain why this snippet simply hangs on quiting on mac os x 10.5? http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.swt.snippets/src/org/eclipse/swt/snippets/Snippet195.java?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
[03:08:43] <multiHYP> its opengl in swt using lwjgl
[03:09:29] <multiHYP> i confirmed and my friend on windows xp sp3 can quit this snippet without any problems, but when i run it on the mac and close it, it never quits!
[03:09:48] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen:-vm usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64
[03:10:24] <rcjsuen> Try pointing at the actual file instead of a folder.
[03:10:51] <multiHYP> rcjsuen: do you know maybe why this example hangs on me?
[03:11:34] <rcjsuen> No, I know nothing about 3d/opengl and swt. I don't know anything about 3d/opengl in general ;p
[03:12:01] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: ok
[03:12:19] <multiHYP> i think it is related to the display.asyncExec(new Runnable(){etc.....}); but have never used threading in swt :(
[03:13:07] <multiHYP> because, you know that swt needs the -XstartOnFirstThread on mac but not on windows, so the work might be a bit different
[03:14:25] <rhk> I haven't used lwjgl on mac yet. just linux and windows.
[03:15:03] <rhk> probably there is a race condition there.
[03:15:11] <multiHYP> rhk: do you have problem quiting that snippet195?
[03:15:26] <rhk> it uses canvas.isDispose() to test for stopping the async job
[03:16:05] <multiHYP> i debugged and the thread was showing as (running) after closing the shell
[03:16:06] <rhk> I've not tried that specific snippet, but I've not had issues with hanging either.
[03:16:36] <multiHYP> do you have a sample that for sure works for you, that i could test on my machine
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[03:17:02] <rhk> I do, but it's large(ish)
[03:17:05] <rhk> not a snippet
[03:17:05] <multiHYP> this is the one and only sample about lwjgl and swt with opengl, it is ridiculous!
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[03:18:11] <multiHYP> i think there is something extra needed to be done on mac side, which noone obviously has done, or at least didn't publish online, so frustrating...
[03:18:12] <rhk> it's not hard to use
[03:18:54] <multiHYP> i got the hang of opengl, lwjgl is not hard either, but this is clearly some bug inside swt library
[03:20:26] <rhk> I used a different technique for running the animation code
[03:20:41] <multiHYP> what did you do?
[03:21:06] <rhk> I'm looking to see if I can make it into a snippet
[03:21:14] <rhk> it's in a larger app right now
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[03:21:58] <rhk> looks like I'm busy looping in the main thread :)
[03:22:39] <rhk> exits when Display.isCloseRequested() returns true
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[03:23:56] <multiHYP> the whole threads in swt is so unknown to me, i just started with asyncExec and there is one nice one i like timerExec, but it is not clear to me how they exactly work
[03:24:11] <multiHYP> awt threads were much better i think :(
[03:24:39] <rhk> threads are threads
[03:25:01] <rhk> asyncExec is for running code in the display thread
[03:25:34] <rhk> nearly all ui toolkits require that ui code is only called in the display thread
[03:25:53] <multiHYP> ok i saw others end their application by calling System.exit(0); however i want to end it with display.dispose(); which is the swt way...
[03:25:59] <rhk> because otherwise it's hard to write the ui toolkit
[03:26:04] <multiHYP> how do you end your app successfully?
[03:26:40] <multiHYP> the opengl/swt/lwjgl application that is
[03:26:45] <rhk> lemme look
[03:28:54] <rhk> gotta check code out of svn to try/look :)
[03:29:45] <multiHYP> ok appreciate it, as of right now you seem the only person knowing about swt and opengl.
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[03:30:47] <rhk> I've done a bit with it. I have a plug-in for eclipse for generating animated text, and a robotics simulation that runs as a standalone swt app
[03:32:21] <rhk> I used lwjgl Display.destroy()
[03:33:27] <multiHYP> yes, but what is inside Display of lwjgl?
[03:33:47] <multiHYP> is Display an swt Shell, what do they do inside it's destroy method
[03:33:54] <rhk> I'm splitting it out into a snippet
[03:34:42] <rhk> hmm. nevermind. this code just uses lwjgl. I need to pull the code from the plugin
[03:35:56] <multiHYP> ok, so you don't do the gui on top of lwjgl's Display component?
[03:36:55] <rhk> this code is opening a window using lwjgl too
[03:37:02] <rhk> not swt
[03:37:08] <rhk> and it's running inside eclipse :)
[03:37:19] <rhk> I know I use the GLCanvas in something...
[03:37:32] <rhk> ok, found it
[03:37:59] <rhk> http://svn.picibo.com/repo/Public/CircuitsMedia/screenshots/Drawing-20091208-2153.png
[03:38:04] <multiHYP> but you see, Display component of lwjgl is rubbish
[03:38:06] <rhk> but that's running inside a view
[03:38:15] <rhk> so I don't close the app
[03:38:24] <multiHYP> so i can implement Display as if its GLCanvas?
[03:39:02] <rhk> your code is like that snippet, right?
[03:39:05] <multiHYP> cause i have a full gui for my app, and a GLCanvas that i want to draw in it
[03:39:17] <multiHYP> very much
[03:39:31] <multiHYP> more complicated but the opengl stuff essentially is the same
[03:39:48] <multiHYP> and the same problem with quiting the application
[03:41:10] <multiHYP> if you can quit that snippet195 tell me how, because on mac is not happening!
[03:42:21] <rhk> gotta download swt, since I don't have a standalone copy right now
[03:43:14] <multiHYP> it should be inside your eclipse/plugin/ folder (the one for your os at least)
[03:44:06] <rhk> I guess I could have imported it into the workspace
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[03:44:28] <multiHYP> COMPLAINT: i find it silly that swt library doesn't provide appropriate example for such a useful part of it like openGL.
[03:44:57] <multiHYP> yeah, just import, copy paste the snippet and lets see what happens when you try to close the shell?
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[03:46:29] <rhk> the opengl support in java is sketchy at best. there are three different bindings that I know of, none of which is "official" enough to include in the jre. it's stupid.
[03:46:42] <atula> suddenly... my color formatting is gone from my css and html files :/
[03:46:48] <rhk> is there any wonder why java isn't so popular for desktop programming.
[03:48:40] <multiHYP> rhk i am thinking of completely moving to c++
[03:48:47] <multiHYP> no wonder all games are written in c++
[03:49:23] <rhk> I really like working with lwjgl. I won't be going back to C++ any time soon.
[03:49:37] <multiHYP> its powerful,fast,cross platform, you can even compile the same app on a linux machine for all other os on 32 and/or 64 bit versions, so what can beat that??
[03:50:05] <rhk> are you using the swt that's built in your plugins directory?
[03:50:14] <rhk> I downloaded the 32 bit version (stupid)
[03:50:31] <multiHYP> java wasn't, isn't, won't ever be cross platform
[03:50:38] <multiHYP> no
[03:50:59] <multiHYP> but the one i use is probably the same version, i just keep my libs seperately
[03:51:52] <rhk> I used to have VE installed, which had a way to reference the SWT binaries from the plugin. very handy.
[03:52:17] <rhk> downloading 64 bit swt now instead.
[03:55:12] <multiHYP> rhk, if you have 4 or more GB of RAM 64 bit might be useful, unless your whole os is 64bit
[03:55:45] <multiHYP> if your os is 32bit and you have less that $GB of RAM you probably are better off with 32bit swt and other things...
[03:56:03] <rhk> it's a core2 quad with 4G ram, running linux x86_64 :)
[03:56:10] <rhk> gonna have 8G soon too :)
[03:57:13] <multiHYP> wow awesome
[03:57:30] <multiHYP> i have core2duo, and know these processor lineups still rock!
[03:58:04] <rhk> grr. gotta tell it where to find the lwjgl natives
[03:59:02] <rhk> by the way, if you don't mind using osgi, it makes some of this stuff way simpler
[03:59:22] <multiHYP> just put them besides src & bin folders
[03:59:30] <rhk> the lwjgl bundle figures out where to get the natives from, no matter what platform the app runs on
[03:59:36] <multiHYP> you probably know these better than me,,,
[04:00:15] <rhk> ok, so now the snippet runs, and it does exit just fine.
[04:00:32] <multiHYP> so it clearly is a problem on mac!
[04:00:42] <multiHYP> holey crap!
[04:01:20] <rhk> I have no doubt that it's related to the first thread thing
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[04:01:24] <multiHYP> SWT ECLIPSE THERE IS A BUG ON MAC OPENGL PACKAGES, IT SIMPLY WON"T LET ME QUIT THE APPLICATION SHELL ON CLOSING! LET THIS BE THE BUG REPORT!
[04:01:38] <multiHYP> rhk exactly thats what i suspect
[04:01:47] <rhk> there's a better way to report bugs you know :)
[04:01:50] <multiHYP> i mean do swt developers wait that apple fixes this?
[04:02:03] <multiHYP> rhk i know, but i am not a member
[04:02:17] <rhk> it's possible that none of the swt developers has tried the opengl snippet on a mac
[04:02:24] <rhk> bugzilla accounts are free
[04:02:27] <rhk> I have one
[04:02:37] <multiHYP> and honestly don;t see what it would benefit me, when the only person helping me here is you (only 1 person)!
[04:03:18] <rhk> this channel tends to be mostly dead in the evening. I think most of the active people might be US-based
[04:03:19] <multiHYP> i mean am i the first mac user that tries using these together?
[04:03:27] <multiHYP> oh
[04:03:37] <multiHYP> well their bad luck
[04:03:54] <rhk> or at least north america based. there are several in Canada
[04:03:58] <multiHYP> because I have always swing, but 3d graphics suck on swing so slow the framerate is...
[04:04:20] <rhk> lwjgl is the only way to go for fast graphics in java, imho
[04:04:33] <multiHYP> rhk i can force quit the app by System.exit(0); but that is not fine imao.
[04:05:05] <multiHYP> i mean display.dispose() is the way i learned to quit swt apps
[04:05:15] <rhk> maybe we can figure this out
[04:05:34] <rhk> so there is one thread still running when you exit, right?
[04:06:41] <rhk> put a breakpoint on the line with "if (!display.readAndDispatch())"
[04:06:49] <rhk> then debug the app.
[04:07:40] <rhk> when I do that, there are two threads listed as existing: one called [main], and the other is called [AWT-XAWT]
[04:07:49] <rhk> the one that stops is [main]
[04:08:12] <rhk> what do you get>?
[04:09:20] <multiHYP> ok wait
[04:09:46] <rhk> [AWT-XAWT] is marked as a daemon thread
[04:10:25] <multiHYP> i have three threads
[04:10:32] <rhk> hmm. a breakpoint on display.sleep() never stops. probably because there is always an event in the queue due to the asyncExce
[04:10:41] <rhk> what are they?
[04:10:45] <rhk> and which one stops?
[04:10:56] <multiHYP> Thread [main] (Running)
[04:10:57] <multiHYP> Daemon Thread [Thread-0] (Suspended (breakpoint at line 130 in Snippet195))	Snippet195.main(String[]) line: 130
[04:10:57] <multiHYP> Thread [AWT-Shutdown] (Running)
[04:11:31] <rhk> interesting.
[04:11:34] <rhk> ok next test
[04:11:47] <multiHYP> so Daemon Thread stops i guess
[04:11:53] <rhk> put a breakpoint on the line with "canvas.setCurrent()" in the runnable
[04:12:24] <rhk> I'd bet that will stop thread [main]
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[04:12:36] <multiHYP> no, if you let it go all go back ro (running)
[04:12:51] <multiHYP> lets see
[04:13:12] <rhk> mine stopped thread main in the runnable
[04:13:21] <multiHYP> so what should i check on canvas.setCurrent()?
[04:13:33] <multiHYP> mine stopped Daemon Thread
[04:13:35] <rhk> just which thread is suspended
[04:13:50] <multiHYP> Thread main is always the display on mac, the shell, the main gui
[04:14:18] <rhk> that's interesting, because swt is doing it's work in Thread-0
[04:14:28] <rhk> (for you)
[04:14:36] <multiHYP> that s the difference between mac and windows/linux versions of swt and so we give a cmd line argument to the jar file of  -XstartOnFirstThread which probably refers to the one following main Thread
[04:14:59] <multiHYP> yes, so i probably have to quit by disposing Thread-0 ha?
[04:15:05] <rhk> are you running this with that flag?
[04:15:33] <multiHYP> no not inside eclipse, but if i have a runnable jar exported i need this flag in order to run the application
[04:15:46] <multiHYP> at least for now as we are stuck with 3.5.1
[04:15:55] <rhk> can you set that in the vm flags?
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[04:16:19] <multiHYP> so same condition inside eclipse compiler and runner you mean:?
[04:16:23] <rhk> I suspect you need that
[04:17:11] <multiHYP> doesn't solve the problem
[04:17:57] <multiHYP> no before using opengl and the async, my swt apps could quit perfectly inside eclipse without any flags and outside eclipse with that flag. it is all asyncExec's fault!
[04:18:22] <rhk> try using timerExec instead, with a short delay
[04:19:08] <multiHYP> i know the problem
[04:19:21] <multiHYP> Thread-0 that is acting like main thread on mac, never dies
[04:19:27] <rhk> yup
[04:19:41] <multiHYP> and i have no access to it what so ever to kill it, because it probably is inside swt's sourcecode
[04:20:03] <multiHYP> i have used timerExec, asyncExec, syncExec all similar
[04:20:09] <rhk> just make a "done" flag, and if "done" is true, then don't call asyncExec at the end of the function
[04:20:28] <rhk> then set done=true when that loop at the end exits
[04:20:29] <multiHYP> where?
[04:20:42] <multiHYP> pastebin maybe?
[04:21:24] <rhk> yeah
[04:21:54] <multiHYP> so where should i add the flag and is it to skip out of that async runnable?
[04:22:01] <rhk> http://pastebin.com/d742f050d
[04:22:35] <rhk> also, breakpoint the "done = true" line to make sure it actually runs
[04:23:30] <rhk> I get a VM crash on exit about half the time :(
[04:23:49] <rhk> I don't think lwjgl + x86_64 play nice all the time
[04:24:35] <multiHYP> now you have also a problem, it doesn't get better, does it?
[04:24:36] <multiHYP> :D
[04:25:07] <rhk> no, I've had that problem all along
[04:25:39] <rhk> I guess I should report a bug for that one, but I'm not yet sure where. probably lwjgl
[04:25:50] <multiHYP> wow, see these little things make me go nutts
[04:26:05] <multiHYP> like the not proper way to exit swt or simple exceptions...
[04:26:42] <rhk> well, if this works then it means that the canvas is not being disposed
[04:26:48] <multiHYP> i bet carbon version of swt doesn;t have such problems
[04:27:21] <multiHYP> since they moved to the apple's new framework, the whole thing got so buggy and the platform specific things changed completely...
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[04:27:43] <rhk> does that new code work?
[04:27:55] <multiHYP> still loading
[04:27:57] <multiHYP> :(
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[04:28:45] <multiHYP> nope
[04:28:55] <multiHYP> where should i break it?
[04:28:55] <rhk> what's driving me nuts right now is trying to get eclipselink jpa to load the postgresl jdbc driver
[04:29:05] <rhk> break on "done = true"
[04:29:13] <rhk> near the bottom
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[04:29:28] <rhk> I would go try this on the mac, but my wife is using it :)
[04:29:36] <multiHYP> wow sophisticated db stuff
[04:29:48] <rhk> not really
[04:30:06] <rhk> it was just way easier to use eclipselink than write all the code myself
[04:30:44] <multiHYP> no don't worry about it, if it gets fixed i use it otherwise i am screwed
[04:30:52] <multiHYP> at least on the mac :D
[04:30:55] <rhk> I started to, because I was frustrated with EL/JPA, then after spending 4 hours writing code, and still not being done, I figured it was worth figuring out
[04:31:19] <rhk> when I get a chance I'll try this out on the mac
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[04:32:25] <multiHYP> its worth writing your own custom things, it pays at some point
[04:32:37] <rhk> I get all messed up using eclipse on that machine. some of the keybindings change, and I never remember which. most stuff is ctrl-this or ctrl-that on windows/linux, then some of those are apple-this on the mac
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[04:33:36] <rhk> the db issue was that I have a nice library for migrating the db schema, so that if I make changes, the app can update the db schema, and continue working. I wasn't sure how to get EL/JPA to do that.
[04:33:36] <multiHYP> i remember with xml parsing, i ended up doing it two weeks later just as i was into the mood, then boom had a custom xml parser that has been used at least in two other programs as well
[04:34:02] <multiHYP> i actually have ctrl this extra for this reason
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[04:34:25] <rhk> so you add keybindings to match it up?
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[04:34:31] <multiHYP> apple space, is reserved for spotlight, which i disabled and use apple space for quicksilver instead
[04:34:35] <multiHYP> yrd
[04:34:37] <multiHYP> yes
[04:34:44] <multiHYP> apple = cmd
[04:34:45] <rhk> I should do that
[04:35:00] <rhk> I do most of my dev work on the linux box
[04:35:04] <multiHYP> in eclipse is hidden in the preferences, but i guess you know how
[04:35:23] <multiHYP> yes, linux, windows much safer and supportive to develop on
[04:35:24] <rhk> my  windows box is an eeebox b202, so it's severely underpowered for dev work
[04:35:36] <multiHYP> forget that :)
[04:35:54] <rhk> I do use it for testing
[04:35:55] <multiHYP> lucky you don;t do c compiling
[04:36:00] <rhk> I do
[04:36:05] <multiHYP> oh
[04:36:17] <rhk> ubuntu has a package for mingw
[04:36:17] <multiHYP> not on eee though
[04:36:38] <rhk> I cross compile the JNI code
[04:36:47] <multiHYP> testing is fine, since gives a good measurement of other peoples experience, but compiling on netbooks and the like is suicide
[04:37:08] <rhk> yeah. it's an atom I think running at 1.6Ghz
[04:37:15] <rhk> painful for dev
[04:37:28] <rhk> painful for most anything really :)
[04:37:37] <rhk> after getting used to this box
[04:37:44] <multiHYP> i wish they had a bandwidth simulator like in adobe flash, but except in eclipse and instead of bandwidth simulation it would do cpu simulation
[04:38:25] <multiHYP> that would seriously virtualize hardware
[04:39:26] <rhk> linux has kvm. it's really nice
[04:39:40] <rhk> os support for a vm
[04:39:49] <rhk> each vm runs as as "process"
[04:39:57] <rhk> there's a nice manager tool and all that
[04:41:05] <multiHYP> oh i wish i had something like that on mac
[04:41:17] <multiHYP> i bet mac and windows have copyright issues with such things
[04:41:34] <multiHYP> although microsoft virtualizes windows fine, mac has problems
[04:46:41] <multiHYP> rhk
[04:46:49] <rhk> ?
[04:46:55] <multiHYP> where is the bug reporting for eclipse?
[04:47:17] <rhk> bugs.http://bugs.eclipse.org/
[04:47:21] <rhk> oops
[04:47:23] <rhk> http://bugs.eclipse.org/
[04:47:36] <multiHYP> thanks
[04:47:52] <multiHYP> im gonna report that before it messes up my app
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[04:50:53] <rhk> when I get a chance I'll try this on the mac
[04:51:03] <rhk> I got my database driver to load now
[04:52:04] <multiHYP> ok good luck & thanks
[04:52:49] <rhk> heh. postgresl is about an order of magnitude faster than derby :)
[04:52:54] <rhk> thanks!
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[05:01:29] <atula> not sure what happened... but all my color formatting for css/html even javascript are gone in pydev...
[05:02:17] <rhk> atula: maybe turned off? or the file association changed?
[05:02:34] <atula> can I turn that off by accident ? where can I check?
[05:02:42] <atula> I've looked at Appearance a few times
[05:02:49] <atula> I've been messing with the font size... but that's about it
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[05:04:58] <atula> how to delete all settings?
[05:05:08] <atula> lthere has to be a .settings somewhere
[05:05:09] <atula> hehe
[05:05:12] <atula> windows here btw
[05:05:29] <multiHYP> where is appropriate to report a bug regarding SWT? they have a terrible bug report system
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[05:05:44] <multiHYP> or maybe is too big in scale
[05:05:59] <rhk> the whole thing is too big in scale
[05:06:06] <rhk> makes it hard to find the right docs too
[05:07:05] <rhk> SWT is under "platform/workbench"
[05:07:11] <rhk> it's a component
[05:07:26] <multiHYP> oh thanks
[05:09:44] <rhk> atula: I've got pydev on my windows machine at work, but not on the linux machine I'm on right now
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[05:19:29] <multiHYP> i sent it i guess, i am not suppose to commit anything, right?
[05:19:49] <multiHYP> if they fix it soon, i guess i report more often when i come across bugs...
[05:20:01] <multiHYP> Bug 298496
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[05:29:30] <rhk> ~298496
[05:29:31] <Arbalest> Bug 298496 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=298496 - Platform / SWT / 4.0 - Macintosh / Mac OS X - NEW / critical / - Assignee: platform-swt-inbox - [Snippet195.java] or any OpenGL apps won't quit under Mac OS X.
[05:32:01] <rhk> nite
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[05:49:58] <multiHYP> yes, i did that
[05:50:01] <multiHYP> :)
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[06:05:24] <multiHYP> good day and night to everybody.
[06:05:27] <multiHYP> :)
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[08:44:18] <eagles0513875> hey guys im just wondering what knowledge does one need to know to make a 64bit port of galileo as it seems there isnt one available
[08:47:17] <nitind> eagles0513875: Not much.  Just get the 64-bit Eclipse Platform or SDK download and use the Update Manager to install whatever you need.
[08:47:36] <eagles0513875> nitind: it seems there is only the 64bit classic
[08:47:38] <eagles0513875> not galileo
[08:48:08] <eagles0513875> classic version is  what im running atm and its missing alot of features i have gotten used to in galileo
[08:50:11] <nitind> Classic is just one Galileo package.  Galileo just means a bunch of projects that released in June, combined into various packages.  ~compare-packages .  You can still start with any of them and install more.
[08:50:19] <nitind> ~compare
[08:50:19] <Arbalest> Wondering what the difference between all those Eclipse packages are or wondering what's included in them? See here - http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/compare-packages
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[09:05:39] <FauxFaux> Really need an "eeeeeeeeeeeeverything" package, to save me installing jee, extracting the amd64 binaries over it, downloading cdt then waiting for cvs to get the source.
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[09:10:38] <eagles0513875> nitind: what package would i need to install to get auto command completion for instance
[09:10:42] <eagles0513875> auto code completion
[09:10:57] <eagles0513875> when u hit ctrl space it brings up list of otpions
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[10:11:27] <nitind> eagles0513875: In which language?
[10:12:00] <nitind> FauxFaux: You do know you can get the 64-bit Eclipse Platform or SDK and just add the rest, right?
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[10:45:41] <Gopal> is it possible can i develop a java application using eclipse which can show lotus notes email?
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[12:10:02] <clovisw> hi, anyone knows if exists a eclipse plugin that i can use to generate java code base in my class, like i have a POJO, and need to create a method toJSON for that, but that must be a method, what i need is a plugin that loop attributes and create that method.
[12:10:12] <clovisw> if dont exists i will create my own
[12:10:40] <clovisw> i tried to google it but maybe i dont have the right words now
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[14:04:22] <rethus> didn't can update my eclipse.. but get no error, can somebody helP?
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[14:05:33] <rethus> i go to "check for updates" and choose eclipse IDE for PHP-Developers, click next everytime till i get to licence-agreement
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[14:06:51] <rethus> then i click accept, and the finish-button are clickable (not the next-button) if i click on finish, nothing happend
[14:07:00] <rethus> nor error on console, ...nothing
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[14:33:39] <clovisw> anyone knows where i can find source for "Generate getters and setters..." command of JDT? i need to create a new plugin based on that.
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[14:43:56] <rcjsuen> rethus: Did you try using the keyboard to click the finish button?
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[15:28:02] <freed> Hi all, I am trying to run a site I am building in Eclipse, it runs fine on port 8888, however I need to change this due to a router port forwarding issue. However, when I change the port in 'Run Configurations'  In the console I see 'WARNING: failed SelectChannelConnector at 127 dot 0.0.1:80
[15:28:02] <freed> java.net.SocketException: Permission denied'   Any ideas? Thanks!
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[15:50:21] <atpa8a> hmm
[15:50:31] <atpa8a> eclipse is performing *very* poorly
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[15:51:30] <atpa8a> and that in a 3/4 of a GB of RAM
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[15:52:20] <atpa8a> i get "Not responding" after any save
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[16:11:35] <atpa8a> and it constantly redrawing the toolbar
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[16:59:44] <atpa8a> this is unacceptable!..
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[17:07:51] <nitind> atpa8a: Saving what kinds of file?  PHP?
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[17:15:17] <atpa8a> java
[17:15:54] <atpa8a> even bumped Xms/mx to 1G
[17:23:28] <atpa8a> getting just horrible performance...
[17:23:32] <atpa8a> 3.5.1
[17:25:48] <nitind> ~info
[17:25:48] <Arbalest> Please state a) your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), b) operating system (Windows, Linux, OSX, etc.), c) your Java runtime environment (please verify by checking your ~logs or in the about dialog's ~jre section. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), d) your Eclipse version, and e) where did you get Eclipse from (eclipse.org, distro repository, etc.).
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[17:27:48] <atpa8a> 64bit, win7,jdk-1.6.16, eclise-3.5.1 from eclipse.org
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[17:40:03] <rcjsuen> I know some ppl are testing on Windows 7 and haven't heard such problems.
[17:40:09] <rcjsuen> There was one guy that said opening files hung for several minutes
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[17:40:14] <rcjsuen> but seems you have a diffferent problem
[17:44:37] <atpa8a> i don't think OS is to blame
[17:51:33] <rcjsuen> by "Not responding" you mean that Windows program error popup?
[17:52:18] <atpa8a> it doesn't not popup but displays that message in window title
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[17:52:29] <atpa8a> and i get the hourglass cursor
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[17:56:35] <rcjsuen> Ah okay.
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[19:36:01] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: Hi, rcjsuen, good evening.
[19:36:29] <herlimenezes> Couldnt solve the trouble with JDK.
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