[00:02:36] *** AsM0DeUz has quit IRC [00:08:55] *** magnet has quit IRC [00:11:19] *** Wopper has joined #eclipse [00:20:26] *** philk__ has quit IRC [00:32:47] *** ramenmeal has joined #eclipse [00:33:24] *** ramenmeal has quit IRC [00:35:28] *** justinfreeman has joined #eclipse [00:40:12] *** justinfreeman has quit IRC [00:44:50] *** lbt has left #eclipse [00:46:09] *** Nescafe has quit IRC [00:47:32] *** hmalphettes has joined #eclipse [00:48:54] *** Chris64 has quit IRC [00:51:20] *** bigmack83 has joined #eclipse [00:51:21] *** pnehrer has joined #eclipse [00:57:24] *** blue_asterisk has quit IRC [01:20:45] *** herlimenezes has joined #eclipse [01:21:11] <herlimenezes> Hello, good night (I am at -3 GMT) [01:21:31] <herlimenezes> Need some help here. [01:22:54] <herlimenezes> I've got some warning about Maven plugin. It says I must point -vm to JRE. Please, how can i do that? [01:23:33] <rcjsuen> you can do that in the command line or thru the eclipse.ini file [01:23:34] <rcjsuen> ~vm [01:23:34] <Arbalest> To start Eclipse with a specific Java VM, you should start Eclipse with the -vm argument. This should look something like 'eclipse.exe -vm C:\jdk1.5.0.6\bin\java.exe' or './eclipse -vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.03/bin/java'. Note that the path of the 'java' executable is being passed and _not_ a folder. [01:23:36] <rcjsuen> ~eclipse.ini [01:23:36] <Arbalest> Want to set startup flags for eclipse, like -vm, -vmargs, or -consolelog? Edit your eclipse.ini file. - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse.ini - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_run_Eclipse%3F#eclipse.ini [01:25:45] <herlimenezes> Arbalest: excuse me, Im not an experienced Eclipse user. Im running Eclipse at a Linux 64 machine, distro Fedora 11. I have edited Eclipse.ini but dont know what to do... [01:28:23] <rcjsuen> maybe your edits are incorrect, you should put the contents in a ~pastebin so others can examine it and see if there are any problems [01:28:23] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca [01:28:56] <herlimenezes> ok, i will do it... [01:29:52] <herlimenezes> Arbalest: http://www.pastebin.cz/28906 [01:31:33] *** brian_ has quit IRC [01:31:39] *** Wopper has quit IRC [01:31:51] <rcjsuen> It doesn't seem like you have edited the file. [01:32:14] <herlimenezes> ok, I have just opened it... [01:32:34] <herlimenezes> using gedit [01:34:20] <rcjsuen> Did you check the wiki pages Arbalest provided [01:36:00] <herlimenezes> ok, I got some exemple for linux. Reading as: vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02/bin/java [01:36:16] <herlimenezes> so i must to include this line at Eclipse.ini, ok? [01:39:26] *** barnaby_b has joined #eclipse [01:40:58] <herlimenezes> Let me tell the whole history. I need to use Maven in order to write some Jena applications. I downloaded it, and installed. As I tryied running eclipse I got the warning I quote. [01:42:04] *** Irakirashia has quit IRC [01:42:17] <rcjsuen> what you pasted is almost correct, i suggest you double-check the wiki pg [01:42:37] <herlimenezes> ok, i will do it [02:01:18] <rcjsuen> herlimenezes: Any luck with your file? [02:02:15] <barnaby_b> I'm trying to run django runserver in Eclipse (to use the debugger), but it just freezes. I can run django unit tests in Eclipse just fine, but for some reason the runserver command hangs [02:05:52] <herlimenezes> Something has changed...but warning still remains... [02:07:45] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: it says "The Maven integration requires that Eclipse be running in a JDK, because a number of Maven core plugins are using jars from JDK. [02:08:28] <herlimenezes> "Please make sure the -vm option in eclipse.ini is pointing to a JDK and verify installed JREs are also using JDK installs" [02:08:49] <herlimenezes> I dont know what to do to resolve this warning... [02:09:53] <herlimenezes> At Maven console I got this: 23/12/09 22h16min41s GMT-03:00: Eclipse is running in a JRE, but a JDK is required [02:09:53] <herlimenezes> Some Maven plugins may not work when importing projects or updating source folders. [02:10:44] *** tokstolle has left #eclipse [02:11:17] <herlimenezes> there is also this info: [INFO] User settings file does not exist /home/Herli/.m2/settings.xml [02:11:32] *** felipe` has quit IRC [02:12:10] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: should I create it manually? [02:13:05] <rcjsuen> herlimenezes: what does your ini file look like now? [02:13:56] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: just a second... [02:14:00] *** barnaby_b has quit IRC [02:15:39] <herlimenezes> I have initally changed -vm line as wiki pg...I got an error... [02:15:42] *** barnaby_b has joined #eclipse [02:16:18] <herlimenezes> so I let -vm blank... maven apparently was loaded with that warning... [02:16:55] <herlimenezes> I guess if Maven is correclty loaded, .m2 file will be created... [02:17:58] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: On the other side, wiki page says that I must point -vm to a file, not just to a folder...but which file? [02:18:24] <rcjsuen> your /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02/bin/java sounds right [02:19:15] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: it should be ok, but there is no such file at /opt folder... [02:20:02] <rcjsuen> well it should point to wherever your java/jvm binary is [02:22:37] *** Pikachu_2014 has quit IRC [02:22:56] <herlimenezes> this is a point: where is java/jvm? [02:23:16] *** Pikachu_2014 has joined #eclipse [02:23:22] *** barnaby_b has quit IRC [02:23:33] <rcjsuen> Could be anywhere. I don't know where you installed it or where your distribution installed it. [02:23:54] <rcjsuen> In Gentoo they put it in /opt/. [02:24:20] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: opt folder is organized as: opt/jre1.6.0_10_x64/bin, lib, man [02:24:43] <rcjsuen> Well that's just a JRE not a JDK. [02:24:50] <herlimenezes> yes... [02:25:34] <herlimenezes> I will search for it... [02:28:47] *** barnaby_b has joined #eclipse [02:30:25] *** barnaby_b has quit IRC [02:31:19] *** tr1gger has quit IRC [02:31:25] *** allisterb has joined #eclipse [02:31:50] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: I found java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64 at usr/lib/jvm i will try this... [02:37:21] *** peper has quit IRC [02:37:36] *** peper has joined #eclipse [02:39:21] *** allisterb_ has quit IRC [02:43:10] *** sirslacker has quit IRC [02:51:10] *** Wopper has joined #eclipse [02:52:44] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: I have changed Eclipse.ini, but nothing new... [02:53:14] <rcjsuen> what did you change it to [03:07:46] *** multiHYP has joined #eclipse [03:08:29] <multiHYP> can someone please explain why this snippet simply hangs on quiting on mac os x 10.5? http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.swt.snippets/src/org/eclipse/swt/snippets/Snippet195.java?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup [03:08:43] <multiHYP> its opengl in swt using lwjgl [03:09:29] <multiHYP> i confirmed and my friend on windows xp sp3 can quit this snippet without any problems, but when i run it on the mac and close it, it never quits! [03:09:48] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen:-vm usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64 [03:10:24] <rcjsuen> Try pointing at the actual file instead of a folder. [03:10:51] <multiHYP> rcjsuen: do you know maybe why this example hangs on me? [03:11:34] <rcjsuen> No, I know nothing about 3d/opengl and swt. I don't know anything about 3d/opengl in general ;p [03:12:01] <herlimenezes> rcjsuen: ok [03:12:19] <multiHYP> i think it is related to the display.asyncExec(new Runnable(){etc.....}); but have never used threading in swt :( [03:13:07] <multiHYP> because, you know that swt needs the -XstartOnFirstThread on mac but not on windows, so the work might be a bit different [03:14:25] <rhk> I haven't used lwjgl on mac yet. just linux and windows. [03:15:03] <rhk> probably there is a race condition there. [03:15:11] <multiHYP> rhk: do you have problem quiting that snippet195? [03:15:26] <rhk> it uses canvas.isDispose() to test for stopping the async job [03:16:05] <multiHYP> i debugged and the thread was showing as (running) after closing the shell [03:16:06] <rhk> I've not tried that specific snippet, but I've not had issues with hanging either. [03:16:36] <multiHYP> do you have a sample that for sure works for you, that i could test on my machine [03:17:01] *** JabDesign has joined #eclipse [03:17:02] <rhk> I do, but it's large(ish) [03:17:05] <rhk> not a snippet [03:17:05] <multiHYP> this is the one and only sample about lwjgl and swt with opengl, it is ridiculous! [03:17:41] *** nlc has quit IRC [03:18:11] <multiHYP> i think there is something extra needed to be done on mac side, which noone obviously has done, or at least didn't publish online, so frustrating... [03:18:12] <rhk> it's not hard to use [03:18:54] <multiHYP> i got the hang of opengl, lwjgl is not hard either, but this is clearly some bug inside swt library [03:20:26] <rhk> I used a different technique for running the animation code [03:20:41] <multiHYP> what did you do? [03:21:06] <rhk> I'm looking to see if I can make it into a snippet [03:21:14] <rhk> it's in a larger app right now [03:21:51] *** jfreeman has joined #eclipse [03:21:58] <rhk> looks like I'm busy looping in the main thread :) [03:22:39] <rhk> exits when Display.isCloseRequested() returns true [03:23:14] *** felipe` has joined #eclipse [03:23:56] <multiHYP> the whole threads in swt is so unknown to me, i just started with asyncExec and there is one nice one i like timerExec, but it is not clear to me how they exactly work [03:24:11] <multiHYP> awt threads were much better i think :( [03:24:39] <rhk> threads are threads [03:25:01] <rhk> asyncExec is for running code in the display thread [03:25:34] <rhk> nearly all ui toolkits require that ui code is only called in the display thread [03:25:53] <multiHYP> ok i saw others end their application by calling System.exit(0); however i want to end it with display.dispose(); which is the swt way... [03:25:59] <rhk> because otherwise it's hard to write the ui toolkit [03:26:04] <multiHYP> how do you end your app successfully? [03:26:40] <multiHYP> the opengl/swt/lwjgl application that is [03:26:45] <rhk> lemme look [03:28:54] <rhk> gotta check code out of svn to try/look :) [03:29:45] <multiHYP> ok appreciate it, as of right now you seem the only person knowing about swt and opengl. [03:30:02] *** Tesseraction has quit IRC [03:30:47] <rhk> I've done a bit with it. I have a plug-in for eclipse for generating animated text, and a robotics simulation that runs as a standalone swt app [03:32:21] <rhk> I used lwjgl Display.destroy() [03:33:27] <multiHYP> yes, but what is inside Display of lwjgl? [03:33:47] <multiHYP> is Display an swt Shell, what do they do inside it's destroy method [03:33:54] <rhk> I'm splitting it out into a snippet [03:34:42] <rhk> hmm. nevermind. this code just uses lwjgl. I need to pull the code from the plugin [03:35:56] <multiHYP> ok, so you don't do the gui on top of lwjgl's Display component? [03:36:55] <rhk> this code is opening a window using lwjgl too [03:37:02] <rhk> not swt [03:37:08] <rhk> and it's running inside eclipse :) [03:37:19] <rhk> I know I use the GLCanvas in something... [03:37:32] <rhk> ok, found it [03:37:59] <rhk> http://svn.picibo.com/repo/Public/CircuitsMedia/screenshots/Drawing-20091208-2153.png [03:38:04] <multiHYP> but you see, Display component of lwjgl is rubbish [03:38:06] <rhk> but that's running inside a view [03:38:15] <rhk> so I don't close the app [03:38:24] <multiHYP> so i can implement Display as if its GLCanvas? [03:39:02] <rhk> your code is like that snippet, right? [03:39:05] <multiHYP> cause i have a full gui for my app, and a GLCanvas that i want to draw in it [03:39:17] <multiHYP> very much [03:39:31] <multiHYP> more complicated but the opengl stuff essentially is the same [03:39:48] <multiHYP> and the same problem with quiting the application [03:41:10] <multiHYP> if you can quit that snippet195 tell me how, because on mac is not happening! [03:42:21] <rhk> gotta download swt, since I don't have a standalone copy right now [03:43:14] <multiHYP> it should be inside your eclipse/plugin/ folder (the one for your os at least) [03:44:06] <rhk> I guess I could have imported it into the workspace [03:44:22] *** fixl has quit IRC [03:44:28] <multiHYP> COMPLAINT: i find it silly that swt library doesn't provide appropriate example for such a useful part of it like openGL. [03:44:57] <multiHYP> yeah, just import, copy paste the snippet and lets see what happens when you try to close the shell? [03:46:00] *** atula has joined #eclipse [03:46:29] <rhk> the opengl support in java is sketchy at best. there are three different bindings that I know of, none of which is "official" enough to include in the jre. it's stupid. [03:46:42] <atula> suddenly... my color formatting is gone from my css and html files :/ [03:46:48] <rhk> is there any wonder why java isn't so popular for desktop programming. [03:48:40] <multiHYP> rhk i am thinking of completely moving to c++ [03:48:47] <multiHYP> no wonder all games are written in c++ [03:49:23] <rhk> I really like working with lwjgl. I won't be going back to C++ any time soon. [03:49:37] <multiHYP> its powerful,fast,cross platform, you can even compile the same app on a linux machine for all other os on 32 and/or 64 bit versions, so what can beat that?? [03:50:05] <rhk> are you using the swt that's built in your plugins directory? [03:50:14] <rhk> I downloaded the 32 bit version (stupid) [03:50:31] <multiHYP> java wasn't, isn't, won't ever be cross platform [03:50:38] <multiHYP> no [03:50:59] <multiHYP> but the one i use is probably the same version, i just keep my libs seperately [03:51:52] <rhk> I used to have VE installed, which had a way to reference the SWT binaries from the plugin. very handy. [03:52:17] <rhk> downloading 64 bit swt now instead. [03:55:12] <multiHYP> rhk, if you have 4 or more GB of RAM 64 bit might be useful, unless your whole os is 64bit [03:55:45] <multiHYP> if your os is 32bit and you have less that $GB of RAM you probably are better off with 32bit swt and other things... [03:56:03] <rhk> it's a core2 quad with 4G ram, running linux x86_64 :) [03:56:10] <rhk> gonna have 8G soon too :) [03:57:13] <multiHYP> wow awesome [03:57:30] <multiHYP> i have core2duo, and know these processor lineups still rock! [03:58:04] <rhk> grr. gotta tell it where to find the lwjgl natives [03:59:02] <rhk> by the way, if you don't mind using osgi, it makes some of this stuff way simpler [03:59:22] <multiHYP> just put them besides src & bin folders [03:59:30] <rhk> the lwjgl bundle figures out where to get the natives from, no matter what platform the app runs on [03:59:36] <multiHYP> you probably know these better than me,,, [04:00:15] <rhk> ok, so now the snippet runs, and it does exit just fine. [04:00:32] <multiHYP> so it clearly is a problem on mac! [04:00:42] <multiHYP> holey crap! [04:01:20] <rhk> I have no doubt that it's related to the first thread thing [04:01:21] *** laknath_ has quit IRC [04:01:24] <multiHYP> SWT ECLIPSE THERE IS A BUG ON MAC OPENGL PACKAGES, IT SIMPLY WON"T LET ME QUIT THE APPLICATION SHELL ON CLOSING! LET THIS BE THE BUG REPORT! [04:01:38] <multiHYP> rhk exactly thats what i suspect [04:01:47] <rhk> there's a better way to report bugs you know :) [04:01:50] <multiHYP> i mean do swt developers wait that apple fixes this? [04:02:03] <multiHYP> rhk i know, but i am not a member [04:02:17] <rhk> it's possible that none of the swt developers has tried the opengl snippet on a mac [04:02:24] <rhk> bugzilla accounts are free [04:02:27] <rhk> I have one [04:02:37] <multiHYP> and honestly don;t see what it would benefit me, when the only person helping me here is you (only 1 person)! [04:03:18] <rhk> this channel tends to be mostly dead in the evening. I think most of the active people might be US-based [04:03:19] <multiHYP> i mean am i the first mac user that tries using these together? [04:03:27] <multiHYP> oh [04:03:37] <multiHYP> well their bad luck [04:03:54] <rhk> or at least north america based. there are several in Canada [04:03:58] <multiHYP> because I have always swing, but 3d graphics suck on swing so slow the framerate is... [04:04:20] <rhk> lwjgl is the only way to go for fast graphics in java, imho [04:04:33] <multiHYP> rhk i can force quit the app by System.exit(0); but that is not fine imao. [04:05:05] <multiHYP> i mean display.dispose() is the way i learned to quit swt apps [04:05:15] <rhk> maybe we can figure this out [04:05:34] <rhk> so there is one thread still running when you exit, right? [04:06:41] <rhk> put a breakpoint on the line with "if (!display.readAndDispatch())" [04:06:49] <rhk> then debug the app. [04:07:40] <rhk> when I do that, there are two threads listed as existing: one called [main], and the other is called [AWT-XAWT] [04:07:49] <rhk> the one that stops is [main] [04:08:12] <rhk> what do you get>? [04:09:20] <multiHYP> ok wait [04:09:46] <rhk> [AWT-XAWT] is marked as a daemon thread [04:10:25] <multiHYP> i have three threads [04:10:32] <rhk> hmm. a breakpoint on display.sleep() never stops. probably because there is always an event in the queue due to the asyncExce [04:10:41] <rhk> what are they? [04:10:45] <rhk> and which one stops? [04:10:56] <multiHYP> Thread [main] (Running) [04:10:57] <multiHYP> Daemon Thread [Thread-0] (Suspended (breakpoint at line 130 in Snippet195)) Snippet195.main(String[]) line: 130 [04:10:57] <multiHYP> Thread [AWT-Shutdown] (Running) [04:11:31] <rhk> interesting. [04:11:34] <rhk> ok next test [04:11:47] <multiHYP> so Daemon Thread stops i guess [04:11:53] <rhk> put a breakpoint on the line with "canvas.setCurrent()" in the runnable [04:12:24] <rhk> I'd bet that will stop thread [main] [04:12:24] *** jfreeman has quit IRC [04:12:36] <multiHYP> no, if you let it go all go back ro (running) [04:12:51] <multiHYP> lets see [04:13:12] <rhk> mine stopped thread main in the runnable [04:13:21] <multiHYP> so what should i check on canvas.setCurrent()? [04:13:33] <multiHYP> mine stopped Daemon Thread [04:13:35] <rhk> just which thread is suspended [04:13:50] <multiHYP> Thread main is always the display on mac, the shell, the main gui [04:14:18] <rhk> that's interesting, because swt is doing it's work in Thread-0 [04:14:28] <rhk> (for you) [04:14:36] <multiHYP> that s the difference between mac and windows/linux versions of swt and so we give a cmd line argument to the jar file of -XstartOnFirstThread which probably refers to the one following main Thread [04:14:59] <multiHYP> yes, so i probably have to quit by disposing Thread-0 ha? [04:15:05] <rhk> are you running this with that flag? [04:15:33] <multiHYP> no not inside eclipse, but if i have a runnable jar exported i need this flag in order to run the application [04:15:46] <multiHYP> at least for now as we are stuck with 3.5.1 [04:15:55] <rhk> can you set that in the vm flags? [04:16:11] *** laknath_ has joined #eclipse [04:16:19] <multiHYP> so same condition inside eclipse compiler and runner you mean:? [04:16:23] <rhk> I suspect you need that [04:17:11] <multiHYP> doesn't solve the problem [04:17:57] <multiHYP> no before using opengl and the async, my swt apps could quit perfectly inside eclipse without any flags and outside eclipse with that flag. it is all asyncExec's fault! [04:18:22] <rhk> try using timerExec instead, with a short delay [04:19:08] <multiHYP> i know the problem [04:19:21] <multiHYP> Thread-0 that is acting like main thread on mac, never dies [04:19:27] <rhk> yup [04:19:41] <multiHYP> and i have no access to it what so ever to kill it, because it probably is inside swt's sourcecode [04:20:03] <multiHYP> i have used timerExec, asyncExec, syncExec all similar [04:20:09] <rhk> just make a "done" flag, and if "done" is true, then don't call asyncExec at the end of the function [04:20:28] <rhk> then set done=true when that loop at the end exits [04:20:29] <multiHYP> where? [04:20:42] <multiHYP> pastebin maybe? [04:21:24] <rhk> yeah [04:21:54] <multiHYP> so where should i add the flag and is it to skip out of that async runnable? [04:22:01] <rhk> http://pastebin.com/d742f050d [04:22:35] <rhk> also, breakpoint the "done = true" line to make sure it actually runs [04:23:30] <rhk> I get a VM crash on exit about half the time :( [04:23:49] <rhk> I don't think lwjgl + x86_64 play nice all the time [04:24:35] <multiHYP> now you have also a problem, it doesn't get better, does it? [04:24:36] <multiHYP> :D [04:25:07] <rhk> no, I've had that problem all along [04:25:39] <rhk> I guess I should report a bug for that one, but I'm not yet sure where. probably lwjgl [04:25:50] <multiHYP> wow, see these little things make me go nutts [04:26:05] <multiHYP> like the not proper way to exit swt or simple exceptions... [04:26:42] <rhk> well, if this works then it means that the canvas is not being disposed [04:26:48] <multiHYP> i bet carbon version of swt doesn;t have such problems [04:27:21] <multiHYP> since they moved to the apple's new framework, the whole thing got so buggy and the platform specific things changed completely... [04:27:43] *** Stefan has joined #eclipse [04:27:43] <rhk> does that new code work? [04:27:55] <multiHYP> still loading [04:27:57] <multiHYP> :( [04:28:41] *** _atula_ has joined #eclipse [04:28:45] <multiHYP> nope [04:28:55] <multiHYP> where should i break it? [04:28:55] <rhk> what's driving me nuts right now is trying to get eclipselink jpa to load the postgresl jdbc driver [04:29:05] <rhk> break on "done = true" [04:29:13] <rhk> near the bottom [04:29:24] *** allisterb_ has joined #eclipse [04:29:28] <rhk> I would go try this on the mac, but my wife is using it :) [04:29:36] <multiHYP> wow sophisticated db stuff [04:29:48] <rhk> not really [04:30:06] <rhk> it was just way easier to use eclipselink than write all the code myself [04:30:44] <multiHYP> no don't worry about it, if it gets fixed i use it otherwise i am screwed [04:30:52] <multiHYP> at least on the mac :D [04:30:55] <rhk> I started to, because I was frustrated with EL/JPA, then after spending 4 hours writing code, and still not being done, I figured it was worth figuring out [04:31:19] <rhk> when I get a chance I'll try this out on the mac [04:32:12] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC [04:32:18] *** allisterb_ has quit IRC [04:32:25] <multiHYP> its worth writing your own custom things, it pays at some point [04:32:37] <rhk> I get all messed up using eclipse on that machine. some of the keybindings change, and I never remember which. most stuff is ctrl-this or ctrl-that on windows/linux, then some of those are apple-this on the mac [04:33:13] *** allisterb_ has joined #eclipse [04:33:22] *** atula has quit IRC [04:33:36] <rhk> the db issue was that I have a nice library for migrating the db schema, so that if I make changes, the app can update the db schema, and continue working. I wasn't sure how to get EL/JPA to do that. [04:33:36] <multiHYP> i remember with xml parsing, i ended up doing it two weeks later just as i was into the mood, then boom had a custom xml parser that has been used at least in two other programs as well [04:34:02] <multiHYP> i actually have ctrl this extra for this reason [04:34:22] *** _atula_ has quit IRC [04:34:25] <rhk> so you add keybindings to match it up? [04:34:28] *** allisterb has quit IRC [04:34:31] <multiHYP> apple space, is reserved for spotlight, which i disabled and use apple space for quicksilver instead [04:34:35] <multiHYP> yrd [04:34:37] <multiHYP> yes [04:34:44] <multiHYP> apple = cmd [04:34:45] <rhk> I should do that [04:35:00] <rhk> I do most of my dev work on the linux box [04:35:04] <multiHYP> in eclipse is hidden in the preferences, but i guess you know how [04:35:23] <multiHYP> yes, linux, windows much safer and supportive to develop on [04:35:24] <rhk> my windows box is an eeebox b202, so it's severely underpowered for dev work [04:35:36] <multiHYP> forget that :) [04:35:54] <rhk> I do use it for testing [04:35:55] <multiHYP> lucky you don;t do c compiling [04:36:00] <rhk> I do [04:36:05] <multiHYP> oh [04:36:17] <rhk> ubuntu has a package for mingw [04:36:17] <multiHYP> not on eee though [04:36:38] <rhk> I cross compile the JNI code [04:36:47] <multiHYP> testing is fine, since gives a good measurement of other peoples experience, but compiling on netbooks and the like is suicide [04:37:08] <rhk> yeah. it's an atom I think running at 1.6Ghz [04:37:15] <rhk> painful for dev [04:37:28] <rhk> painful for most anything really :) [04:37:37] <rhk> after getting used to this box [04:37:44] <multiHYP> i wish they had a bandwidth simulator like in adobe flash, but except in eclipse and instead of bandwidth simulation it would do cpu simulation [04:38:25] <multiHYP> that would seriously virtualize hardware [04:39:26] <rhk> linux has kvm. it's really nice [04:39:40] <rhk> os support for a vm [04:39:49] <rhk> each vm runs as as "process" [04:39:57] <rhk> there's a nice manager tool and all that [04:41:05] <multiHYP> oh i wish i had something like that on mac [04:41:17] <multiHYP> i bet mac and windows have copyright issues with such things [04:41:34] <multiHYP> although microsoft virtualizes windows fine, mac has problems [04:46:41] <multiHYP> rhk [04:46:49] <rhk> ? [04:46:55] <multiHYP> where is the bug reporting for eclipse? [04:47:17] <rhk> bugs.http://bugs.eclipse.org/ [04:47:21] <rhk> oops [04:47:23] <rhk> http://bugs.eclipse.org/ [04:47:36] <multiHYP> thanks [04:47:52] <multiHYP> im gonna report that before it messes up my app [04:49:00] *** herlimenezes has quit IRC [04:50:06] *** hmalphettes has quit IRC [04:50:53] <rhk> when I get a chance I'll try this on the mac [04:51:03] <rhk> I got my database driver to load now [04:52:04] <multiHYP> ok good luck & thanks [04:52:49] <rhk> heh. postgresl is about an order of magnitude faster than derby :) [04:52:54] <rhk> thanks! [04:58:09] *** JM has quit IRC [05:01:09] *** atula has joined #eclipse [05:01:29] <atula> not sure what happened... but all my color formatting for css/html even javascript are gone in pydev... [05:02:17] <rhk> atula: maybe turned off? or the file association changed? [05:02:34] <atula> can I turn that off by accident ? where can I check? [05:02:42] <atula> I've looked at Appearance a few times [05:02:49] <atula> I've been messing with the font size... but that's about it [05:04:09] *** hmalphettes has joined #eclipse [05:04:17] *** Stefa1 has joined #eclipse [05:04:58] <atula> how to delete all settings? [05:05:08] <atula> lthere has to be a .settings somewhere [05:05:09] <atula> hehe [05:05:12] <atula> windows here btw [05:05:29] <multiHYP> where is appropriate to report a bug regarding SWT? they have a terrible bug report system [05:05:39] *** fsteeg has quit IRC [05:05:44] <multiHYP> or maybe is too big in scale [05:05:59] <rhk> the whole thing is too big in scale [05:06:06] <rhk> makes it hard to find the right docs too [05:07:05] <rhk> SWT is under "platform/workbench" [05:07:11] <rhk> it's a component [05:07:26] <multiHYP> oh thanks [05:09:44] <rhk> atula: I've got pydev on my windows machine at work, but not on the linux machine I'm on right now [05:19:15] *** Stefan has quit IRC [05:19:29] <multiHYP> i sent it i guess, i am not suppose to commit anything, right? [05:19:49] <multiHYP> if they fix it soon, i guess i report more often when i come across bugs... [05:20:01] <multiHYP> Bug 298496 [05:21:02] *** Wopper has quit IRC [05:27:28] *** magicblaze0072 has left #eclipse [05:29:30] <rhk> ~298496 [05:29:31] <Arbalest> Bug 298496 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=298496 - Platform / SWT / 4.0 - Macintosh / Mac OS X - NEW / critical / - Assignee: platform-swt-inbox - [Snippet195.java] or any OpenGL apps won't quit under Mac OS X. [05:32:01] <rhk> nite [05:32:03] *** rhk has quit IRC [05:44:20] *** cyzie has joined #eclipse [05:44:41] *** allisterb__ has joined #eclipse [05:49:49] *** bya_ has joined #eclipse [05:49:58] <multiHYP> yes, i did that [05:50:01] <multiHYP> :) [05:51:32] *** allisterb_ has quit IRC [05:52:30] *** allisterb_ has joined #eclipse [05:55:22] *** allisterb__ has quit IRC [05:56:55] *** bya__ has joined #eclipse [05:57:34] *** bya has quit IRC [05:57:35] *** bya_ has quit IRC [06:05:24] <multiHYP> good day and night to everybody. 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Just get the 64-bit Eclipse Platform or SDK download and use the Update Manager to install whatever you need. [08:47:36] <eagles0513875> nitind: it seems there is only the 64bit classic [08:47:38] <eagles0513875> not galileo [08:48:08] <eagles0513875> classic version is what im running atm and its missing alot of features i have gotten used to in galileo [08:50:11] <nitind> Classic is just one Galileo package. Galileo just means a bunch of projects that released in June, combined into various packages. ~compare-packages . You can still start with any of them and install more. [08:50:19] <nitind> ~compare [08:50:19] <Arbalest> Wondering what the difference between all those Eclipse packages are or wondering what's included in them? See here - http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/compare-packages [08:51:32] *** allisterb has quit IRC [08:52:21] *** allisterb has joined #eclipse [08:58:32] *** allisterb__ has joined #eclipse [09:00:01] *** allisterb has quit IRC [09:01:54] *** allisterb_ has joined #eclipse [09:04:40] *** blue_asterisk has joined #eclipse [09:05:39] <FauxFaux> Really need an "eeeeeeeeeeeeverything" package, to save me installing jee, extracting the amd64 binaries over it, downloading cdt then waiting for cvs to get the source. [09:09:34] *** LongBeach has quit IRC [09:10:38] <eagles0513875> nitind: what package would i need to install to get auto command completion for instance [09:10:42] <eagles0513875> auto code completion [09:10:57] <eagles0513875> when u hit ctrl space it brings up list of otpions [09:12:39] *** bigmack83 has quit IRC [09:13:17] *** opossum_oisif has joined #eclipse [09:18:12] *** vwegert has joined #eclipse [09:25:25] *** allisterb has joined #eclipse [09:25:43] *** allisterb__ has quit IRC [09:26:46] *** blue_asterisk has quit IRC [09:30:05] *** allisterb_ has quit IRC [09:39:29] *** allisterb has quit IRC [09:55:06] *** LongBeach has joined #eclipse [09:56:00] *** allisterb has joined #eclipse [09:59:02] *** allisterb has quit IRC [10:02:02] *** allisterb has joined #eclipse [10:02:23] *** Stefa1 has quit IRC [10:02:35] *** tom17bombadil has joined #eclipse [10:08:03] *** allisterb_ has joined #eclipse [10:10:15] *** allisterb has quit IRC [10:11:27] <nitind> eagles0513875: In which language? [10:12:00] <nitind> FauxFaux: You do know you can get the 64-bit Eclipse Platform or SDK and just add the rest, right? [10:17:17] *** ilyak has quit IRC [10:21:43] *** bya_ has joined #eclipse [10:23:27] *** bya has quit IRC [10:25:06] *** eagles0513875 has quit IRC [10:27:25] *** SuRfDeMoN has joined #eclipse [10:31:42] *** SuRfDeMoN has left #eclipse [10:36:00] *** tom17bombadil has quit IRC [10:37:20] *** bya_ has quit IRC [10:39:08] *** soulreaper has joined #eclipse [10:39:29] *** soulreaper has quit IRC [10:40:54] *** bya has joined #eclipse [10:45:05] *** Pikachu_2015 has joined #eclipse [10:45:09] *** Gopal has joined #eclipse [10:45:41] <Gopal> is it possible can i develop a java application using eclipse which can show lotus notes email? 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[12:10:12] <clovisw> if dont exists i will create my own [12:10:40] <clovisw> i tried to google it but maybe i dont have the right words now [12:18:21] *** bya has joined #eclipse [12:20:34] *** opossum_oisif has quit IRC [12:23:18] *** tom17bombadil has quit IRC [12:38:24] *** keya has quit IRC [12:40:48] *** Razec has joined #eclipse [12:44:19] *** rcjsuen has joined #eclipse [12:45:00] *** Stefa1 has joined #eclipse [12:52:23] *** soulreaper has joined #eclipse [12:53:35] *** soulreaper has quit IRC [12:57:53] *** Razec has quit IRC [12:58:30] *** aljazZz has joined #eclipse [13:01:44] *** Shown has joined #eclipse [13:02:45] *** Gopal has quit IRC [13:03:07] *** TomTom has joined #eclipse [13:03:35] *** keya has joined #eclipse [13:18:55] *** opossum_oisif has joined #eclipse [13:23:37] *** bya_ has joined #eclipse [13:23:50] *** soulreaper has joined #eclipse [13:25:06] *** bya has quit IRC [13:26:16] *** Tesseraction has joined #eclipse [13:30:41] *** aljazZz has quit IRC [13:39:11] *** nlc has joined #eclipse [13:59:48] *** Bass10 has joined #eclipse [14:03:57] *** rethus has joined #eclipse [14:04:22] <rethus> didn't can update my eclipse.. but get no error, can somebody helP? [14:05:23] *** fsteeg has joined #eclipse [14:05:33] <rethus> i go to "check for updates" and choose eclipse IDE for PHP-Developers, click next everytime till i get to licence-agreement [14:06:10] *** mertimor has joined #eclipse [14:06:10] *** keya has quit IRC [14:06:51] <rethus> then i click accept, and the finish-button are clickable (not the next-button) if i click on finish, nothing happend [14:07:00] <rethus> nor error on console, ...nothing [14:10:17] *** keya has joined #eclipse [14:10:23] *** bigmack83 has joined #eclipse [14:16:51] *** bya has joined #eclipse [14:17:24] *** bya_ has quit IRC [14:22:46] *** bigmack83 has quit IRC [14:24:39] *** bigmack83 has joined #eclipse [14:27:12] *** soulreaper has quit IRC [14:31:40] *** bya has quit IRC [14:33:39] <clovisw> anyone knows where i can find source for "Generate getters and setters..." command of JDT? i need to create a new plugin based on that. 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However, when I change the port in 'Run Configurations' In the console I see 'WARNING: failed SelectChannelConnector at 127 dot 0.0.1:80 [15:28:02] <freed> java.net.SocketException: Permission denied' Any ideas? Thanks! 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[16:59:51] *** freed has quit IRC [17:04:40] *** nmatrix9 has joined #eclipse [17:07:51] <nitind> atpa8a: Saving what kinds of file? PHP? [17:09:18] *** aksn has quit IRC [17:15:17] <atpa8a> java [17:15:54] <atpa8a> even bumped Xms/mx to 1G [17:23:28] <atpa8a> getting just horrible performance... [17:23:32] <atpa8a> 3.5.1 [17:25:48] <nitind> ~info [17:25:48] <Arbalest> Please state a) your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), b) operating system (Windows, Linux, OSX, etc.), c) your Java runtime environment (please verify by checking your ~logs or in the about dialog's ~jre section. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), d) your Eclipse version, and e) where did you get Eclipse from (eclipse.org, distro repository, etc.). [17:26:26] *** keya has quit IRC [17:27:09] *** hmalphettes has joined #eclipse [17:27:48] <atpa8a> 64bit, win7,jdk-1.6.16, eclise-3.5.1 from eclipse.org [17:34:07] *** soulreaper_ has joined #eclipse [17:36:46] *** akurtakov has joined #eclipse [17:40:03] <rcjsuen> I know some ppl are testing on Windows 7 and haven't heard such problems. [17:40:09] <rcjsuen> There was one guy that said opening files hung for several minutes [17:40:11] *** soulreaper has quit IRC [17:40:14] <rcjsuen> but seems you have a diffferent problem [17:44:37] <atpa8a> i don't think OS is to blame [17:51:33] <rcjsuen> by "Not responding" you mean that Windows program error popup? [17:52:18] <atpa8a> it doesn't not popup but displays that message in window title [17:52:20] *** allisterb has joined #eclipse [17:52:29] <atpa8a> and i get the hourglass cursor [17:56:05] *** TomTom has quit IRC [17:56:35] <rcjsuen> Ah okay. 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[19:36:29] <herlimenezes> Couldnt solve the trouble with JDK. 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