[00:02:32] <philk_> ralf_e: refresh job is significantly quicker
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[00:03:09] <philk_> ralf_e: I will remove indexOf now
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[00:03:53] <groton> what to do when i get a red background and white cross on a package in the Project Explorer, but then there is no mention of any error in the contained classes?
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[00:08:59] <rcjsuen> did you open the problems view?
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[00:13:41] <groton> rcjsuen, let me see where this view is
[00:14:42] <groton> found it, it cannot resolve symbols like Cipher and such
[00:15:08] <philk_> ralf_e: how much is an RCP course in Frankfurt btw? Some of my colleagues could need some training in RCP
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[00:17:14] <ralf_e> philk_, one second
[00:20:30] <progre55> hi guys. using eclipse 3.5.1 on ubuntu. I had a junit test, but it was running the old class, nothing changed in the testing process even when I updated the file. moreover, the .class file was in the bin/ directory in the project, not in  some test/ dir. So I deleted the .class file, and now it cannot even run anything. throwing a classNotFoundException. any suggestions, please?
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[00:21:57] <rcjsuen> Class files go in the bin/ folder...well, unless your project specifically set alternate output folders.
[00:22:02] <progre55> is there maybe any property in eclipse I could specify the test directories? cause I know in intelliJidea you can
[00:22:52] <progre55> rcjsuen, but why isnt it even recompiling the test into the bin/ dir?
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[00:23:53] <rcjsuen> try cleaning your proj
[00:24:09] <progre55> rcjsuen, how?
[00:24:17] <rcjsuen> Project > Clean
[00:24:23] <progre55> oh, sec
[00:25:11] <progre55> nope, no changes
[00:25:22] <progre55> the same "ClassNotFoundException"
[00:27:23] <rcjsuen> best to check if the classpath is off or if the file actually does not exist
[00:31:44] <progre55> rcjsuen: how do I check that? and btw, I have the file open.. and tried to search for the same file, but .class from the command line, it doesnt exist in the project
[00:31:56] <progre55> how to make eclipse compile the file?
[00:32:33] <rcjsuen> well if it doesn't physically exist on disk then i guess it's technically not a classpath problem
[00:32:35] <progre55> without building the whole project, if possible
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[00:36:45] <rcjsuen> Technically, cleaning the project should've forced a rebuild.
[00:38:39] <progre55> nope. I even deleted the .java file and re-created it
[00:38:43] <progre55> didnt help
[00:39:26] <ralf_e> rcjsuen, could you quickly skim these three pretty simple classes I plan to propose as JFace API for the zoom support: http://pastie.org/753838 - did I made any API / documentation mistakes here?
[00:39:53] <rcjsuen> progre55: Did you try changing code that aren't tests though?
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[00:42:35] <progre55> rcjsuen: well, I have changed them.. but I never run them on eclipse. I build the project using ant on the terminal, and I use eclipse just to edit them and run junit tests. Before I updated my eclipse, the tests were running okay.
[00:43:00] <rcjsuen> if Ant builds it
[00:43:08] <rcjsuen> then isn't it your Ant setup's problem that class files aren't being generated?
[00:44:06] <progre55> but ant doesnt touch (and never has) my test dir. it's just a simple configuration that only compiles the src/ directory and creates a jar
[00:45:02] <progre55> well, I could add a task to ant to compile the tests as well.. but I was just wondering why eclipse isnt compiling them anymore.. cause it used to
[00:46:07] <rcjsuen> oic
[00:46:10] <rcjsuen> so i guess it was working yesterday
[00:46:35] <progre55> not really yesterday, but about a week ago. but since then I havent used it =)
[00:47:41] <EricInBNE> how do you solve the eclipse on ubuntu problem of buttons losing focus?
[00:49:18] <progre55> EricInBNE: and you cannot click them?
[00:50:14] <EricInBNE> progre55, yes I tried export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 and that sort of helps but it doesnt solve all the problems
[00:51:33] <progre55> EricInBNE: yeah I had that problem. there were some tickets on jira, with solutions. but I simply added the eclipse ppt to my apt sources and updated it from there
[00:52:00] <EricInBNE> progre55, was it the official eclipse repo?
[00:52:04] <EricInBNE> progre55, or 'some guy'?
[00:53:07] <progre55> hehe :) I guess it was the official one
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[00:53:13] <vdv> hi all
[00:53:15] <progre55> as I found it on the eclipse web
[00:53:19] <EricInBNE> progre55, can you tell me whats in your sources.list?
[00:53:24] <progre55> sec
[00:53:42] <EricInBNE> progre55, did it come with mylyn? If not I cant really use it.
[00:54:40] <progre55> I guess this is the one "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/yogarine/eclipse/ubuntu karmic main"
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[00:56:01] <vdv> i use cdt, when i include some standart c++ library, for example iostream, cdt complains with the message "unresolved inclusion" and marks with question sign, but the program actually compiles, how can i make syntax checker to not complain about error?
[00:56:03] <progre55> rcjsuen: so any suggestions, please? :)
[00:56:46] <rcjsuen> progre55: what's in your .classpath file
[00:56:56] <progre55> sec
[00:57:32] <progre55> should I cope the whole thing?
[00:58:00] <rcjsuen> use a ~pastebin
[00:58:00] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[00:58:04] <progre55> here
[00:58:05] <progre55> http://pastie.org/753860
[00:58:08] <boss_mc> I'm trying to install a selection of updates (from CDT and Subclipse), but the install only get half way through, then hangs using 100% CPU.  If I click cancel then a box appears asking if I'm ok with installing unsigned code, but the install is already cancelled... this is in Eclipse 3.5 (Ubuntu Karmic standard install)
[00:59:08] <rcjsuen> sure is a lot of stuff
[00:59:23] <rcjsuen> progre55: what does your .project file look like
[00:59:29] <rcjsuen> is Build Automatically turned on?
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[01:01:09] <progre55> rcjsuen: yeah it's on.. let me paste it
[01:02:14] <progre55> rcjsuen: http://pastie.org/753862
[01:02:42] <boss_mc> woo, forget that last question, it's just very slow to do the install... wonder why...
[01:03:08] <progre55> boss_mc: did you get it installed? )
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[01:03:55] <rcjsuen> progre55: did you try close/reopen the project or Eclipse?
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[01:05:17] <progre55> rcjsuen: yeah, I did that once. but let me try again, as I've got no other alternatives :)
[01:05:40] <boss_mc> progre55: yeah, cheers, I just had to wait about 15 minutes
[01:06:11] <progre55> wow, mb your internet connection is too slow. or their upload rate..
[01:08:09] <boss_mc> progre55: it wasn't the download, it was the install... I tried again after restarting eclipse and it installed in seconds as I'd expect
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[01:11:16] <progre55> rcjsuen: restarting didnt help.. I guess I'll have to even move the junit testing to command-line =)
[01:11:41] <rcjsuen> progre55: if you make a new java class does its class file get generated?
[01:11:58] <progre55> rcjsuen: oh, good point.. let me see )
[01:13:55] <progre55> wtf! nope
[01:14:12] <progre55> so eclipse doesnt compile anything now.. that sucks
[01:14:18] <rcjsuen> what if you make a new project?
[01:14:26] <progre55> let me see
[01:15:27] <progre55> hmm.. yeah it does apparently
[01:15:35] <progre55> but why not in this project..
[01:15:40] <progre55> let me compare the .project files
[01:17:27] <progre55> they are exactly the same, except the project names
[01:17:47] <progre55> this is really weird.. maybe I should restart my computer? :)
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[01:20:38] <rcjsuen> check your orig project's properties
[01:20:43] <rcjsuen> maybe the builder has been disabled for some reasons
[01:21:55] <progre55> what do you mean "original project"/
[01:22:05] <progre55> where is that?
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[01:22:14] <progre55> oh, do you mean the main project
[01:22:16] <progre55> sec
[01:22:54] <progre55> there's nothing there. the same .project file
[01:23:03] <rcjsuen> i mean in the project properties page UI
[01:23:07] <rcjsuen> there are checkboxes for your builders
[01:25:28] <progre55> I checked the "enable project specific.. " and checked almost everything there. no use
[01:26:30] <rcjsuen> There's a 'Builders' property page, I was refrering to that one
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[01:27:12] <progre55> well, there is only one "Java Builder" there
[01:27:24] <progre55> and it's checked
[01:27:30] <rcjsuen> right i was wondering if it was unchecked for some odd erason
[01:27:31] <rcjsuen> but i guess not
[01:29:41] <progre55> damn I hate it. I've wasted half a day on this.. I could have already done it on ant
[01:31:56] <vdv> i use cdt, when i include some standart c++ library, for example iostream, cdt complains with the message "unresolved inclusion" and marks with question sign, but the program actually compiles, how can i make syntax checker to not complain about error?
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[01:38:42] <progre55> oh wtf
[01:38:50] <progre55> cant believe it )) it worked
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[01:40:42] <progre55> rcjsuen: apparently one of the libraries (fastutils.jar) were dislocated and eclipse was not able to see it. but it's not in anyway connected to the class I was trying to compile. oh and I wasnt even able to compile any classes. but after I pointed the right .jar, it worked and built the whole project
[01:40:49] <progre55> even the classes I added later
[01:41:08] <progre55> rcjsuen: thanks for all the support and time you wasted trying to figure out :)
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[01:41:33] <rcjsuen> oic
[01:41:46] <rcjsuen> progre55: It didn't complain about this in the 'Problems' view?
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[01:42:54] <progre55> rcjsuen: surprisingly it didnt
[01:43:05] <rcjsuen> oic
[01:43:11] <rcjsuen> Thanks for sharing your solution.
[01:43:23] <progre55> rcjsuen: thanks for trying to solve it :)
[01:43:36] <progre55> truly appreciate
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[02:51:52] <brownphysicist> Where is the list of "software update sites" held within Eclipse.
[02:52:39] <brownphysicist> I have just downloaded the "Glassfish Bundle" from Sun, and it is bone-dry with anything but the java and java ee tools kit(s).  No sites for update, etc...
[02:54:01] <brownphysicist> I have my old install of the Eclipse Galileo version, with all the nifty addons, so I was hoping to just port the list of download sites over, and go from there.
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[07:54:26] <javahorn> hi
[07:54:31] <javahorn> jink: hi
[07:54:52] <javahorn> How is blue edition of MyEclipse?
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[10:58:44] <vdv> must i specify include path for standart c++ header files separately for every new project?
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[11:15:08] <tom17bombadil> Setting up a JEE-Project, I have some trouble with the build-configuration/process. While the jsp/jsf-part is compiled and deployed fine, the corresponding backing-bean is not. There is not even an effect, building/compiling/cleaning the backing-bean. Only when I restart the server (jboss), changes apply.
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[11:17:25] <tom17bombadil> the faces.config knows about the bean, though
[11:17:47] <tom17bombadil> I consider this to be an eclipse-configuration-issue.
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[11:38:12] <rethus> i got this error while try to install something new
[11:38:13] <rethus> Some sites could not be found.  See the error log for more detail.
[11:38:13] <rethus>   No repository found at http://download.eclipse.org.
[11:38:13] <rethus>   No repository found at http://update.aptana.com/update/studio/3.2.
[11:38:19] <rethus> this sites down?
[11:42:20] <rethus> where can i get oxygen plugin repo adress
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[11:46:12] <vdv> hi
[11:48:21] <vdv> i have a cdt question; i've created separate include and src dirs for my project header and source file accordingly, now how i can make cdt will take this fact into account when creating new classes? i.e. it won't put both .h and .cpp files in same directory
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[11:50:08] <rethus> where can i get oxygen plugin repo adress
[11:52:34] <rethus> anyone use oxygen plugin for eclipse?
[11:54:05] <vdv> nobody is here )
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[12:27:27] <masaki[AWAY]> Hi every one
[12:27:39] <masaki[AWAY]> nick masaki
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[12:28:01] <masaki> I'm new in this channel
[12:28:25] <masaki> I hope people here could help with my plugin
[12:29:50] <masaki> Anybody have experience with plugin development and CDT ?
[12:30:25] <rcjsuen> It's better to just ask the real question.
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[12:35:48] <masaki> I'm developing a plugin that uses that extends CDT, I have build everthing .. created the updatesite. And installed my plugin in a fresh install of eclipse.. but one thing happend.. I have created a launcher for my application based on CDT sources and added a new entry to launch my application inside a simulator... then When I click on run.. I can choose run in simulator and as local C application..
[12:35:54] <masaki> but the problem is..
[12:37:36] <masaki> The options run as local C application that is from CDT default..doesn't work... if I don't install CDT Development tools
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[12:38:58] <masaki> I would like to make it a dependecie of my plugin.. so If people that uses my plugin and didn't installed CDT yet .. could use the run as local C application option
[12:40:08] <masaki> It seems when creating the plugin and the updatesite all other dependecies of CDT were automatically installed
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[12:44:16] <kromium> In the debug perspective - Variables view, can I view JDOM object's XML in easy way
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[12:52:31] <kaw> someone from innoopract here?
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[14:06:05] <ilyak> Hi *
[14:06:12] <ilyak> What should I use: svnclipse or subversive? For SVN
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[15:01:14] <Sumpen> Hi guys! I'm using Eclipse with CDT for C++ development. To be able to use CDT and to build in Eclipse I switch to the plugin develpment prespective and then right click on org.eclipse.cdt.ui and choose "Run as" -> Eclipse aplication. Is there any way for me to start in CDT when I start Eclipse?
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[15:05:34] <ilyak> Sumpen: Why don't you open perspective "CDT"?
[15:09:14] <Sumpen> ilyak, I get all kinds of errors when trying to do stuff if I do it that way. Seems CDT is not properly installed. Cant create a project, cant build etc etc. If I load it trough plug-in development it works though. I cant get my head around these different parts of eclipse :/
[15:10:11] <Sumpen> Can install CDT trough Help -> Install new software? And in that case, what is the update site URL?
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[15:10:37] <ilyak> go to cdt website and copypaste it
[15:12:34] <Sumpen> Any tip on what version i should use for lessening chances of problems? I see versions 2.0 -> 2.1.1. I am currently running 2.1.1 but as I said, I get all kinds of errors when trying to do stuff.
[15:17:13] <Sumpen> ilyak, thx for help. Dont have more time now, will get back to this later.
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[16:07:35] <zish> hey, i know this is not a cdt channel but i will try it anyway: i have trouble debugging multi-threaded applications. here is a really small example http://pastebin.org/68148 . i'm stepping until i reach line 17. after that it looks like i pressed continue. but shouldn't t1.join() return immediatly?
[16:08:35] <zish> using windows xp - problem with mingw, cygwin and even edc
[16:10:09] <zish> ah and it is working well on the command line when i directly work with gdb
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[16:51:23] <drgeb> Hi when creating a launch configuration how does one define the PATH variable for the environment within which the application is running ?
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[16:56:45] <FauxFaux> Nice patience there.
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[18:01:41] <bnovc> is anyone familiar with the eclipse memory analyzer tool that could assist me on what to look for in i?
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[18:23:16] <philk_> is it possible to have the installed JREs as global preference and not instance preference? Each time I setup a new workspace I have to enter them again
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[18:32:16] <philk_> I have set a target platform but Eclipse can still not resolve the bundles of the target platform
[18:32:25] <philk_> must they be in compiled form?
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[18:52:29] <MrHacks> I'm just stopping by here really quick to ask a questing that I am pretty sure has been asked many times before.
[18:52:43] <MrHacks> Why won't Eclipse let me create a new class in my project?
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[18:54:42] <NoobFukaure> MrHacks: need more input
[18:57:29] <MrHacks> OK.  I go to File -> New -> Class. I fill out the the name of the class. I click Finish, and nothing happens.
[18:58:09] <MrHacks> The class creation dialog stays open
[18:58:12] <MrHacks> no class is created
[18:58:31] <MrHacks> I could click Finish a dozen times and nothing would happen
[18:58:55] <MrHacks> I even went as far as recreate the workplace and project and still didn't get past this point
[19:00:11] <alankila> MrHacks: GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
[19:00:15] <philk_> It seems that the target platform does not support source folders as plugins
[19:00:50] <philk_> when I add a directory containing lots of eclipse plugin projects, the target platform will show the plugins but the compiler will not find them
[19:00:55] <MrHacks> I'm new to using Eclipse. I haven't a clue as to what you guys are talking about
[19:02:14] <alankila> MrHacks: you hit a bug in linux gtk+, or something. I don't know, you need to set that environment variable for your eclipse in order to have the buttons work
[19:02:21] <MrHacks> I'm using Linux, yes
[19:02:23] <alankila> you can use enter to dismiss the dialogs
[19:02:36] <alankila> they activate the default or currently selected button
[19:02:44] <MrHacks> I pressed Enter.
[19:02:52] <MrHacks> There is the problem
[19:03:29] <MrHacks> I could press Enter a dozen times and still nothing happens
[19:03:53] <alankila> well, maybe the button is not then active yet, but I usually get past the dialogs with some combination of frantic clicking and enter whacking
[19:04:11] <MrHacks> Where is the environment variable settings for eclipse at?
[19:04:25] <MrHacks> Again, I am a total N00b to eclipse.
[19:05:48] <MrHacks> Unactive buttons? That is the most rediculous thing I've ever seen in a program
[19:06:15] <MrHacks> I used to program C++, but I'm moving towards Java
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[19:06:47] <MrHacks> The "unactive buttons" shenanigan is defintely not helping me migrate to Java
[19:08:07] <alankila> it's a linux fault, not eclipse or java fault.
[19:09:01] <alankila> the windows version works fine, but linux folks don't really test their changes all that much I think. And even if something breaks, they only shrug and go "oh well, not our problem". I mean, this is my favorite rant about linux people, because it seems the stuff is generally too buggy
[19:09:19] <MrHacks> It's not linux.
[19:09:25] <MrHacks> I've been using Linux for years
[19:09:54] <alankila> well, suffice to say that only 6 months ago or so Eclipse would crash each time I would touch a combobox. It was another GTK+ bug.
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[19:10:36] <alankila> from my experience so far, I am extrapolating that each time GTK+ folks touch something, eclipse will break. :-(
[19:10:43] <MrHacks> At any rate, where is the GDK setting you are talking about and where do I go to check to see if it is set?
[19:11:12] <alankila> it is an environment variable. It is passed or set by the program which invokes eclipse, or it is already set for the program which passes it on to eclipse.
[19:11:58] <alankila> generally try starting eclipse from terminal with command like "GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 eclipse". You may need a path to eclipse binary. If you find this helps, work out some way to make this a default setting for your eclipse launcher. Write a shell wrapper and start that, or something.
[19:12:21] <alankila> bbl.
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[19:16:11] <MrHacks> The "cancel" button seems to work well.
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[19:21:04] <NoobFukaure> MrHacks: it's an issue with a new version of GTK+ that broke a bunch of apps
[19:21:21] <NoobFukaure> export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 && eclipse
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[19:21:38] <NoobFukaure> the latest bleeding edge versions of eclipse have this fixed
[19:21:44] <MrHacks> Here's the details: Fedora Eclipse version 3.4.2, GNOME version 2.26.3, Linux 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.x86_64, GTK+ version 1.2.10
[19:21:54] <NoobFukaure> but the latest stable was released before the GTK+ folks broke everything
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[19:22:54] <NoobFukaure> once you start eclipse and tell GTK to use the previous functionality, all your buttons will work
[19:24:34] <NoobFukaure> for reference: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/2.18/gtk-migrating-ClientSideWindows.html
[19:26:32] <MrHacks> Why didn't Eclipse use the new GTK+ functionality?
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[19:27:17] <NoobFukaure> DID YOU NOT JUST READ WHAT I WROTE
[19:27:38] <MrHacks> Yes, I did
[19:27:43] <MrHacks> I'm just asking
[19:27:57] <NoobFukaure> And I just told you, before you asked the question
[19:28:49] <MrHacks> I just don't want to mess up other things on my computer just so this version of Eclipse will work
[19:29:06] <NoobFukaure> It's not going to cause a problem
[19:29:19] <NoobFukaure> Alternatively, you could download a newer eclipse nightly
[19:29:36] <NoobFukaure> although those aren't official stable and will contain bugs
[19:29:37] <MrHacks> I'm not a big fan of fiddling with the environment variables is what I was saying
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[19:31:18] <NoobFukaure> You may want to try a less programmer oriented OS, like Mac OSX or Windows
[19:31:39] <MrHacks> no, I'm good
[19:31:55] <MrHacks> If the settings are fine, why screw with them is all I'm saying
[19:32:54] <MrHacks> I'd feel more comfortable if Eclipse put their setting into a file in the /etc/ directory than require me to make changes to the entire system
[19:33:02] <MrHacks> Eclipse is not Linux
[19:33:30] <MrHacks> Someone should tell the Eclipse guys that
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[19:34:47] <alankila> MrHacks: the problem is trivial to solve. I really think the fault was with GTK+ on this one. Rather than coordinate with apps so that end users would not experience bugs, they just made a rather dramatic change and in true open source fashion hoped someone else would work it all out.
[19:35:14] <alankila> this attitude is bane of Linux
[19:36:18] <alankila> that nothing, least of all working applications, is allowed to stand in the way of progress. And their notion of progress seems more like dog chasing its tail to me, constantly rewriting the same suite of fundamental system pieces rather than just accepting that bad but working code trumps improved but broken code... But this rapidly devolves into a rant.
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[20:54:20] <rhk> MrHacks: running "GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 eclipse" from the shell only sets the environment variable for running eclipse, not for any other program. if you put that in a shell script, and name it "eclipse.sh" or something, then you have a nice easy way to run eclipse with that setting, that will affect nothing else in your system.
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[20:54:39] <rhk> MrHacks: that's what I did on my ubuntu system
[20:55:23] <rhk> rcjsuen: you're in late today :) got the day off or something? :)
[20:55:53] <rcjsuen> rhk: was driving to Toronto
[20:56:30] <rhk> rcjsuen: I had to drive out to Battle Creek this morning :) 2H each way
[20:57:01] <rcjsuen> rhk: took me 5 or 6 hours, weather was bad and i also got in an accident
[20:57:15] <rcjsuen> rhk: well, my car went off the road, i didn't hit anyone which is good, so just my problem
[20:57:16] <rhk> rcjsuen: that sucks. hope nobody was hurt...
[20:58:00] <rcjsuen> rhk: plenty of snow which helped "break the fall" per se, my bumper kinda broke in half (well it's still stuck to the car just ripped in half)
[20:58:49] <MrHacks> I'm not using Ubuntu
[20:58:55] <MrHacks> I'm using Fedora
[20:59:14] <rhk> rcjsuen: does IBM give you guys the week after christmas off? I'm in the auto industry and thankfully that's been something they have had for a long time...
[20:59:27] <rhk> MrHacks: similar enough
[20:59:41] <rcjsuen> rhk: our lab has next week off
[20:59:46] <rcjsuen> rhk: i dunno about IBM Canada "in general"
[20:59:48] <MrHacks> What's this I hear about if I run it their will be Memory issues?
[21:00:11] <rhk> MrHacks: running what?
[21:00:39] <MrHacks> the "export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 && eclipse" solution
[21:00:48] <rcjsuen> MrHacks: That is orthogonal to "memory problems".
[21:01:08] <rhk> MrHacks: and you don't need the "export" or "&&"
[21:01:38] <rhk> although export helps if you are running/debugging a new instance of eclipse FROM eclipse
[21:02:00] <MrHacks> I figured as much the person who suggested it was incorrect
[21:02:06] <rhk> MrHacks: either way, it only affects running the one program
[21:02:25] <rhk> it doesn't change anything else in your system.
[21:02:54] <rhk> that env var is an "override" for the gdk library, not so much a configuration variable
[21:03:25] <MrHacks> So what is the proper command to fix the button problem in Eclipse?
[21:04:27] <rhk> I put "GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 (path)/eclipse" into a shell script in my ~/bin directory, replacing (path) with the path to the eclipse binary
[21:04:42] <rhk> export will work too though
[21:05:27] <rhk> you won't need it when the next release of eclipse comes out, but that's a ways off
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[21:08:32] <MrHacks> Use the /usr/bin path or the /usr/lib64/eclipse path?
[21:08:35] <NoobFukaure> rhk are you in the detroit area?
[21:08:41] <rhk> yes
[21:08:52] <rhk> brighton, actually
[21:09:12] <NoobFukaure> cool, Troy here
[21:09:25] <MrHacks> I'll go with /usr/bin for the hell of it
[21:11:47] <MrHacks> Well, that didn't work
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[21:12:23] <brian_> so any clue why there is no PHP perspective on my eclipse, yet the PDT run-time is installed correctly?
[21:13:21] <rcjsuen> Do you even see PHP stuff in the preferences?
[21:13:26] <rcjsuen> Perhaps the whole thing is not being recognized.
[21:15:16] <rcjsuen> Think there was someone yesterday that also claimed the workaround didn't resolve the button problem
[21:17:49] <MrHacks> I wasn't here yesterday
[21:18:18] <MrHacks> At any rate, I just killed four processes of Java and Eclipse that were still open
[21:18:54] <MrHacks> I'm going to try the script again with the other path this time just to be sure
[21:20:10] <MrHacks> dud
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[21:23:39] <MrHacks> GDK_NATIVE_WIDNOWS=1 does not work
[21:23:55] <rcjsuen> you mean WINDOWS?
[21:24:05] <MrHacks> does a hell of a job screwing with the syste
[21:24:11] <MrHacks> I'm using Linux
[21:24:19] <charley> try =true
[21:24:20] <MrHacks> Fedora
[21:24:41] <rcjsuen> MrHacks: I meant, you typed GDK_NATIVE_WIDNOWS
[21:24:44] <rcjsuen> and I wanted to confirm
[21:24:48] <rcjsuen> you typed it right in your script
[21:24:51] <rcjsuen> and made a typo on irc
[21:25:40] <MrHacks> No, I typed in GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
[21:26:25] <rhk> it might need to be "true" instead of "1". I'm not on my linux machine to check right now
[21:27:39] <MrHacks> GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true doesn't work either
[21:27:55] <rcjsuen> Maybe you should try just getting a recent build and seeing
[21:30:42] <rcjsuen> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[21:31:45] <rhk> 3.6M4 should have the fix (right?) but not 3.5.1, which is on that page too.
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[21:31:58] <rcjsuen> not 3.5.1
[21:32:03] <rcjsuen> a recent 3.5 M build does tho
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[21:32:32] <philk__> rcjsuen: do you use target platform definitions?
[21:32:32] <rcjsuen> and 3.6M4 should have it, yes
[21:32:41] <rcjsuen> Nope.
[21:32:45] <rcjsuen> only used it once at Versant
[21:32:50] <rcjsuen> and that was all setup for me so I didn't do anything
[21:34:56] <rhk> target platform seems a bit picky.
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[21:36:14] <MrHacks> The software was from a repo
[21:36:16] <rhk> I was using it for my project, but then I just stopped, since it was easier to just install the desired plug-ins in my eclipse installation
[21:36:27] <MrHacks> It was working a few days ago
[21:36:53] <rhk> MrHacks: so you are using the fedora-supplied installation of eclipse?
[21:37:00] <MrHacks> yes
[21:37:05] <MrHacks> Which worked fine
[21:37:05] <rcjsuen> maybe you had a gtk+ update which caused some other problems
[21:37:15] <rcjsuen> Unfortunately, I forgot to ask the person yesteday what distro he/she was using.
[21:37:37] <rhk> MrHacks: my experience with the linux distro provided eclipse installs has been that they have all been buggy.
[21:37:41] <MrHacks> Yeah, if this wa MARCH. my GTK version is NOT 2.18
[21:37:53] <MrHacks> s/wa/was
[21:38:23] <rcjsuen> well, Fedora knows what they are doing
[21:38:26] <rhk> MrHacks: last time I had fedora, they had eclipse compiled with gcj,
[21:38:48] <rcjsuen> well, it's not March right now anymore ;)
[21:39:15] <rhk> MrHacks: if you want it to work, get the version from eclipse.org, and run on the sun jvm
[21:39:48] <MrHacks>  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=291257 <-- Why this bug problem is completely irrelevant to me
[21:40:05] <rcjsuen> well, it would be relevant if the workaround worked for you
[21:40:09] <rcjsuen> but it seems that is not the case
[21:40:13] <rcjsuen> so you are seeing an alternate manifestation
[21:40:50] <MrHacks> You're not one of those Ubuntu people who thinks that all of my problems can be solved using Ubuntu?
[21:40:57] <rcjsuen> I use Vista and Gentoo.
[21:41:04] <rcjsuen> I do not think your problems would be solved by using Gentoo.
[21:41:23] <rcjsuen> Your problem in this case would be solved by using Windows, but I have no intention to suggest that as a workaround. ;)
[21:41:39] <MrHacks> Good. I'm had just about enough of those people telling me that everything I do can be resolved by replacing the distribution
[21:41:45] <MrHacks> The distribution is fine
[21:41:54] <MrHacks> The operating system is fine
[21:42:06] <MrHacks> The GUI is fine.
[21:42:13] <MrHacks> Eclipse is fucked!
[21:42:27] <MrHacks> pardon my language
[21:42:42] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure using the F word will get you the results you want but anyway
[21:42:44] <rhk> MrHacks: it's possible that someone in #fedora might know something about their eclipse package
[21:43:03] <MrHacks> I'm already speaking to them
[21:43:11] <MrHacks> I'm just waiting for them to respond.
[21:43:40] <rhk> I do know that most of the fedora eclipse packages are somewhat modified from the originals
[21:43:41] <MrHacks> It's December 23, and just about every IT admin is asking all the other questions in the world right now
[21:43:48] <MrHacks> So I'm taking a number
[21:43:53] <rhk> I bet
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[21:44:55] <MrHacks> I've just never been comfortable with compiling stuff from the source. I want to but if there is a binary package that can do it, I feel much better using that
[21:45:15] <rhk> MrHacks: the packages on eclipse.org are binary
[21:45:17] <rcjsuen> Well in Eclipse's case we distribute binaries.
[21:45:57] <rhk> compiling eclipse from source can be a daunting task
[21:46:23] <MrHacks> It's like where do I put these things on my computer? No one really told me where. Thus, if I put it somewhere I shouldn't it won't work with the other programs.
[21:46:25] <rhk> though far easier than something like GnuCash
[21:46:47] <MrHacks> I like to conserve my space on the computer. If there are 12 different version of /usr/lib/java on my computer, there is something wrong
[21:46:47] <rhk> MrHacks: I put it in my home directory
[21:46:55] <rcjsuen> Same, I put it in ~/ myself.
[21:47:08] <MrHacks> As root or as yourself?
[21:47:19] <rcjsuen> As myself, in /home/rcjsuen
[21:47:27] <MrHacks> OK
[21:47:32] <rhk> I use the packaged version of sun java in the normal location, and my own download of eclipse, in my user directory
[21:47:37] <rcjsuen> but only I use this notebook
[21:47:43] <rcjsuen> so I don't realy care about multi-user-ness
[21:47:55] <rcjsuen> I let Gentoo handle the JREs personally.
[21:47:57] <rhk> same here. I'm the only person using eclipse on that machine
[21:48:33] <rhk> the only reason I don't just let ubuntu handle the jre, is that it defaults to openjdk, which is nice and all, but buggy still, and I need a stable system
[21:48:50] <rcjsuen> i thot you can do sudo --update-alternatives or whatever
[21:48:52] <MrHacks> I mean, I've been trying to find someone to ask these questions for some time now, but I've run into alot of people who tell me alot of misleading stuff. I end out being serious when I have fun. Probably because I've run into alot of bad customers.
[21:48:57] <rhk> so I have to override it and install the sun jvm. they do have a package for it, but it's not selected by default
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[21:50:01] <MrHacks> I think what I really need to do is make some room for stuff
[21:50:40] <MrHacks> I'll come back some other time.
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[21:55:27] <rhk> yes, the update-alternatives thing works after you have installed the jvm package, but it's not like they go out of their way to let anyone know that's how to do it :)
[21:58:10] <rhk> prior to switching to ubuntu, I used opensuse, which had a different means of using alternatives
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[22:33:04] <tokstolle> hello out there, short question: where can I find the log-file or error-log of my eclipse?
[22:34:52] <toulmean> tokstolle: .metadata folder of the workspace, under the name .log
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[22:50:13] <tokstolle> toulmean: I don't have a log there, only .plugins-folder and a version.ini and .lock-file
[22:53:59] <toulmean> tokstolle: no .log file ? either it was not created or Eclipse failed to start.
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[22:54:09] <toulmean> ~log
[22:54:09] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[22:54:23] <toulmean> tokstolle: ^^
[22:56:44] <brian_> would there be any reason why after installing subclipse the team/svn view isnt there?
[22:56:49] <tokstolle> ahh.. found it. I forgot that I started eclipse as root for installation of some plugins. The actual problem is, that eclipse cannot access the network
[23:00:17] <brian_> wtf. so I installed the pdt stuff and it was showing up yesterday. Now, when I run eclipse, there is no options for php anywhere. No perspective/view or New PHP project/file or anything.
[23:00:49] <brian_> Any clue why this would occur? Despite this, it shows that PDT is installed in the updates screens
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[23:04:28] <brian_> i just decided to blow eclipse away and re-install.
[23:04:31] <brian_> see what the issue may be
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[23:42:53] <brian_> im, following the instructions for installing PDT 2.2 in Eclipse 3.5. Are we sure those work right?
[23:43:50] <nitind> brian_: PDT 2.1 should work.  2.2 is in development and is potentially unstable.
[23:47:09] <nitind> But then I can't even get them to use the right year in their official plan.
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[23:57:10] <tokstolle> what can I do if my eclipse throws a NoRouteToHostException?
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