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[00:13:48] <ablepharus> hi
[00:14:01] <ablepharus> i have big problems with installing plugins =(
[00:15:25] <ablepharus> i read about a "search for new features to install" etc.
[00:15:31] <ablepharus> but i don't have them
[00:15:52] <ablepharus> and if i manually add url's and so on
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[00:16:04] <ablepharus> i only get errors
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[00:21:48] <nitind> ablepharus: ~info
[00:21:49] <Arbalest> Please state a) your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), b) operating system (Windows, Linux, OSX, etc.), c) your Java runtime environment (please verify by checking your ~logs or in the about dialog's ~jre section. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), d) your Eclipse version, and e) where did you get Eclipse from (eclipse.org, distro repository, etc.).
[00:24:08] <ablepharus> x86, linux, sun-jdk 1.6, 3.5.1, distro (gentoo  eclipse-sdk)
[00:24:19] <ahughes> next.... how can I add a .properties file to the classpath of my run configuration. It only allows *.jar, *.zip to be selected.
[00:24:40] <rcjsuen> ahughes: maybe add the parent folder of it as a class folder
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[00:25:29] <ahughes> parent folder is the project root...
[00:26:08] <rcjsuen> ahughes: Is it even possible to set a file to the classpath from the command line?
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[00:27:07] <ahughes> rcjsuen, yes!
[00:27:15] <rcjsuen> ablepharus: You installed Eclipse with the eclipse-sdk ebuild? Try #gentoo-java.
[00:27:24] <ahughes> I can add it as an 'external jar' in eclipse. But that is not portable.
[00:27:43] <rcjsuen> Isn't that for adding a jar
[00:27:45] <rcjsuen> and not a properties file?
[00:28:09] <ablepharus> rcjsuen, why?
[00:28:26] <rcjsuen> well, adding an "external jar" sounds like a jar-like operation to me
[00:28:36] <ahughes> works for both.. just have to change the filetype in the filepicker from *.jar to *.*   then you can select the file you want.
[00:28:59] <rcjsuen> ahughes: So that makes your application run properly?
[00:29:03] <ahughes> yep
[00:29:16] <ahughes> but it leaves me with a non-portable runtime configuration.
[00:29:30] <rcjsuen> Very interesting. I didn't think you could feed individual non jar/zip files to the JVM.
[00:29:37] <rcjsuen> I'll have to try that from the CLI some time.
[00:29:39] <ahughes> it's ok.. I can just hack the .launch file.
[00:30:04] <rcjsuen> ablepharus: Because the Gentoo packages differ from how Eclipse's "default" binary tarballs.
[00:30:38] <ablepharus> hmm
[00:31:06] <rcjsuen> ahughes: Thanks for sharing your solution.l
[00:34:38] <ahughes> solution would be to make the "Run Configurations -> Java Application -> Classpath -> Add JARs "*.jar, *.zip" filter dynamic/customizable. Or preferably, add 2 new buttons "Add File" and "Add External File" to the 'Classpath' page. :)
[00:35:06] <rcjsuen> you could file a bug report ;)
[00:35:07] <ahughes> could also do the same for folders.
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[00:36:37] <Guevara> I need to remove this piece of code from my jsp page, how I do it? http://pastebin.com/m49c62b8d
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[00:38:38] <Guevara> My DAO method already has the load metod
[00:38:46] <Guevara> DAO class*
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[00:39:50] <Guevara> how to use my method of the DAO in my jsp page?
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[00:40:34] <azanoth> Hi everyone: I'm struggling with some fairly basic stuff. Attempting to use the HTTP Client service to do gets/posts, and can only find a non-jarred collection of classes. When importing this file system, my workspace expands to messily large proportions. My question is... am I probably downloading the wrong file, if I'm getting a file system instead of a jar? And if not, am I importing it wrong? I've never dealt with merging other project
[00:40:34] <azanoth> s with my own before.
[00:40:46] <Guevara> nobody?
[00:41:05] <Guevara> I think there are only bots here
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[00:42:21] <rcjsuen> azanoth: Sounds like you should just add the class files' parent folder as a class folder to your project's classpath.
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[00:44:10] <azanoth> rcjsuen: Ah. So it isn't abnormal to download a library of 100+ classes, as opposed to a jar file? (Their jar file seems to be MIA)
[00:44:19] <rcjsuen> azanoth: It's abnormal I would say.
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[00:45:17] <Guevara> vtnc vcs
[00:45:25] <azanoth> rcsjuen: Okay. I will give that a shot. Alternatively, do you have any recommendation for libraries to do html posts/gets?
[00:45:36] <azanoth> Er, apologies, http posts/gets
[00:45:44] <Guevara>  I need to remove this piece of code from my jsp page, how I do it? http://pastebin.com/m49c62b8d
[00:46:32] <rcjsuen> Just use HttpClient from Apache I guess?
[00:46:47] <Guevara> I can run the select using my DAO
[00:47:11] <Guevara> this
[00:47:12] <Guevara> <% ProdutoDAO dao = new ProdutoDAO(); %>
[00:47:13] <Guevara> 	<% dao.carregar(); %>
[00:47:15] <Guevara> not work
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[02:12:10] <_spm_Draget> What is the problem, if after importing some java sources from an SVN, the project in my workspace does not have any runconfigurations? I simply cannot make eclipse run a class as a java application...?
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[02:27:17] <rhk> wtf? "osgi.... is a complex system that requires extra development overhead"
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[02:31:41] <rcjsuen> _spm_Draget: Presumably it is not being recognized as a Java project I guess.
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[04:16:39] <m0> Hi, where do I download eclipse-jee-galileo-SR1 64bit for Windows?
[04:16:56] <m0> I used to find the link somewhere on eclipse.org, but I can't find it anymore
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[04:19:34] <rcjsuen> There are no 64-bit Java EE builds.
[04:20:13] <m0> So I should uninstall Java64 and put Java32 instead/
[04:20:35] <rcjsuen> you could get an SDK build and install the plug-ins on top
[04:20:40] <rcjsuen> or get a 32-bit jre/eclipse build
[04:21:06] <m0> 32bit eclipse doesn't work on 64bit java
[04:21:29] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> or get a 32-bit jre/eclipse build
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[04:21:55] <m0> Misread your jre :)
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[06:10:00] <digitalfiz> i was wondering how i could get the menu like on zend studio where you can add remote connections and browse them
[06:10:05] <digitalfiz> i cant seem to find it
[06:10:12] <digitalfiz> im using the php eclipse
[06:11:15] <digitalfiz> common sense says it should be in navigate but the navigate area is always empty
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[06:32:05] <AlexanderSupertr> hey guys
[06:32:30] <AlexanderSupertr> the official FAQ referes to Chaper nOs and  a Book.
[06:32:56] <AlexanderSupertr> eg. "See Chapter 14 for more details on productizing an Eclipse offering."
[06:33:36] <AlexanderSupertr> can someone plz explain? does wiki have chapters?
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[06:45:20] <AlexanderSupertr> got it
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[06:51:14] <m0> Hello, when I create a "New Java EE Module" it brings up 4 default modules to create. I understand what they mean. But I don't know what "Connector Module" is
[06:52:27] <m0> I know "Application client module" is to create a client (Java only). The EJB Module to create beans, etc. The Web module to create servlets, jsps, etc. But what is the connector module for?
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[08:27:17] <m0> If someone could let me know what an Application client project is, it would be nice. I don't know why it deploys itself to the server if its client based only.
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[09:55:31] <Neldo> good morning, i have separated my plugin into a part which is bound to eclipse and another one which is fairly eclipse-independant. Now i want the independent part to be startable without starting eclipse. But this part checks for the encoding within the workspace. Upon checking the whole program crashes because certain classes are unavailable. My thought now was to check somehow whether...
[09:55:32] <Neldo> ...eclipse is running or not without using too much of its api. Is that possible or would you suggest another solution?
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[11:26:00] <ralf_e> Neldo, sounds a bit like you want to remove the "fairly" in "fairly eclipse-independent". Maybe whoever uses this component should provide the encoding?
[11:27:36] <Neldo> ralf_e, yes, you are correct about the "fairly" ;-). So you say that there is no way to check for eclipse-availability?
[11:27:53] <ralf_e> digitalfiz, not sure if I get what you mean, do you have a screenshot that shows what's missing? many things in Eclipse are perspective-specific, maybe you need to switch the right perspective?
[11:29:09] <Neldo> but true, i could alter my implementation and always hand over the encoding
[11:30:16] <ralf_e> Neldo, well, you can't ask Eclipse if it's available. You could ask OSGi if certain bundles are available or ask Java if certain classes are loadable, that's all technically possible. But these things all bond your components to their running environment - in terms of good design, I would keep such things out of your components and just configure them.
[11:30:40] <Neldo> ok
[11:31:35] <Neldo> thanks
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[11:32:30] <Neldo> i have another problem extracting this part: i put it into a java-project (as it should be used in a context without eclipse), built the jar and added that to my plugins jars. But now even though eclipse does not set a problem-marker it does throw a ClassNotFoundException when running the plugin
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[11:33:21] <Neldo> do you have an idea what i could have done wrong, ralf_e?
[11:35:36] <ralf_e> Neldo, hmm, typically, a java-project and the jar you built from that is not a plug-in
[11:35:56] <Neldo> i know
[11:36:08] <ralf_e> I'd keep it as a plug-in / bundle project for running inside Eclipse
[11:36:26] <ralf_e> I mean a bundle jar is just a jar with more options in the MANIFEST.MF
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[11:36:48] <ralf_e> you can use it in plain java without OSGi without a problem if all dependencies are fulfilled on the classpath
[11:37:09] <ralf_e> btw, if you really want to check if Eclipse is available, it can be done like this: http://github.com/ralfebert/swtxml/blob/master/plugins/com.swtxml/src/com/swtxml/util/eclipse/EclipseEnvironment.java
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[11:38:53] <Neldo> thanks for that hint
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[11:39:30] <Neldo> i thought about that as well but i just dislike the idea of having this java-project as a plugin if it could be done in another way
[11:40:45] <Neldo> for instance i have this google-collection-jar and the junit-jar which are also no plugins but are included by my plugin
[11:42:16] <ralf_e> well, you can keep it as plain java project as well, but then you have to tinker to use it in the Eclipse environment which expects to run bundles (typically you would convert the jar to a bundle jar by adding the manifest then).
[11:42:59] <ralf_e> and at least as long as you run inside Eclipse, I'd use dependencies to other bundles for things like google collections or junit
[11:44:16] <ralf_e> people who need to run outside of Eclipse / OSGi can just provide these jars on the classpath and use your bundles as jars, so you don't build a roadblock by making it a bundle project
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[11:46:08] <Neldo> ok, thanks for your time :-)
[11:47:36] <Neldo> i will try to do my best from your advice
[11:48:47] <aljazZz> can anyone paste a link of the official eclipse plugins repository (for galileo 3.5.1)?
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[11:54:36] <ralf_e> aljazZz, http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo
[12:02:20] <aljazZz> thanks. couldn't find it anywhere else
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[12:59:59] <txomon> hello?
[13:00:52] <txomon> Where can I find the repos for installing cdt in linux?
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[13:22:50] <rcjsuen> txomon: should just be on the galileo site
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[14:16:12] <Neldo> hello, me again... i changed the java-project into a plugin but unfortunately it still fails with a NoClassDefFoundError...
[14:17:32] <FauxFaux> Restate your problem with actual details, please!
[14:25:28] <Neldo> I have written a plugin and found that one part of it was independent from the rest and useful without eclipse as well. So I extracted this part and put it into a java-project. Then I compiled the java-project, put it into a jar-file and put the jar-file into my plugin-projects build-path.
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[14:27:12] <Neldo> Unfortunately the built plugin then could not open certain classes which depend upon those in the extracted part. So ralf_e told me to change it into a plugin and add it to the dependencies. So I did but I still get a NoClassDefError, as I said.
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[14:34:07] <rcjsuen> is this when you deploy
[14:34:15] <rcjsuen> or is this when you launch your second Eclipse from within your original Eclipse
[14:35:31] <Neldo> rcjsuen: second
[14:35:44] <Neldo> did not try do deploy as it already fails in this statet
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[14:36:33] <rcjsuen> what does your bundle's .classpath, MANIFEST.MF, and build.properties files look like
[14:39:07] <Neldo> the manifest.mf lists the extracted plugin under "Required-Bundle"
[14:40:23] <Neldo> and both classpath and build.properties reference the desired jar in which the class lies which fails to start
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[14:42:23] <rcjsuen> by "look like" I mean put it on a ~pastebin
[14:42:23] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[14:43:01] <Neldo> k, sry
[14:44:28] <philk_> does mylyn support markdown files or only textile?
[14:45:27] <Neldo> http://pastebin.com/d74b6559a
[14:46:14] <rcjsuen> what is the NCDFE complainig about
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[14:46:41] <Neldo> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/antlr/runtime/Lexer
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[14:47:48] <izz> hi guys, Im having some problems with euml2 eclipse plugin, do you know anyplace where I can get help?
[14:48:04] <izz> or mabye some other good uml plugin for reverse engineering class diagrams?
[14:49:57] <rcjsuen> Neldo: when does it die?
[14:50:04] <rcjsuen> Neldo: if you load Google classes before, does it die on Google classes?
[14:51:02] <Neldo> it dies when i start the editor for my plugin which is taking use of the antlr-lexer and does not use the google-collections
[14:53:39] <rcjsuen> then try adding google code to see if google code dies
[14:53:51] <Neldo> no it does not
[14:57:23] <rcjsuen> Neldo: Maybe you could try exporting the ANTLR jar
[14:57:32] <rcjsuen> Neldo: your lines 7 and 12 differ in that regard
[14:57:52] <rcjsuen> tho it's not totally clear to me why the .classpath file should play a role here
[15:01:16] <Neldo> i cant imagine why that should make a difference as i always had the two of them that way :-P
[15:01:27] <Neldo> nope, still failes
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[15:03:49] <Neldo> even when i export that antlr-jar in the other bundle it fails, rcjsuen
[15:03:57] <rcjsuen> In the other bundle?
[15:04:31] <Neldo> as i said i split my original bundle in two different parts
[15:04:51] <Neldo> one with the editor and stuff and the other one with the parser
[15:05:02] <Neldo> and before splitting them everything worked fine
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[15:06:28] <rcjsuen> Your current setup doesn't look very "split up" to me.
[15:09:25] <Neldo> well i thought about putting most of the classes into the other project and then cutting the nasty little connections afterwards, when everything worked :-P
[15:09:48] <Neldo> you are referring to the still reference to the antlr-jar, right?
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[15:10:12] <rcjsuen> you could maybe try adding a compilation order tho i dunno if thatl'l help http://pastebin.ca/1723719
[15:10:54] <rcjsuen> Right, my "not very split up" comment was referring to you having third-party libraries directly in a bundle instead of having them in separate bundles.
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[15:15:44] <Neldo> the thing that is irritating me is that the pde-environment apparently cannot detect the error before running :-P
[15:16:07] <Neldo> compilation order did not help either
[15:16:28] <rcjsuen> This problem is hit pretty frequently by users.
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[15:17:21] <rcjsuen> izz: I think Soyatec has a forum, no? You could try asking there for assistance.'
[15:18:28] <Neldo> rcjsuen: and it tells me that the class definition could not be found even though it references the jar... is that common, too?
[15:18:45] <rcjsuen> Neldo: I mean to say, ppl hit NCDFE a lot when using third party jars for the first time in PDE, so yes.
[15:18:54] <Neldo> k
[15:19:08] <rcjsuen> Unfortunately, you seem to be hitting the nail in the right places so I am out of ideas at the moment.
[15:19:22] <rcjsuen> Did you try making a new launch configuration?
[15:19:22] <Neldo> bugger ;-P
[15:19:28] <rcjsuen> and maybe wiping your target ws
[15:19:43] <Neldo> could try that...
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[15:24:48] <Neldo> unfortunately i got no new finding :-P
[15:25:40] <rcjsuen> Think positive, we have ruled out some variables.
[15:25:51] <Neldo> ;)
[15:26:18] <Neldo> thanks for your time and ideas :-)
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[15:29:56] <l0gin> hi all
[15:30:17] <l0gin> I have eclipse launched and a project with directories but they are not listed alphabetically, how can I change that ?
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[15:36:00] <philk_> my fragment bundle refuses to know the packages its host is having.
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[15:47:45] <philk_> this fragmen is driving me crazy... it does not find an classes from its host bundles
[15:54:42] <philk_> how can I import a file into a project without copying it into the project?
[15:56:25] <rcjsuen> using linked resources i guess
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[16:11:16] <aboSamoor> why eclipse pydev is not packaged in linux distributions ?
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[16:16:20] <rcjsuen> aboSamoor: You would have to ask your distro's package maintainers. :o
[16:16:43] <rcjsuen> Or alternatively ask the PyDev developers why don't they make some Eclipse packages
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[16:30:44] <detritux> hi all. I'm using eclipse helios and when I want to select a svn connector, I can't (I get the list with all the connectors, I select the one I want then click on finish but nothing happens). Any idea ?
[16:31:34] <nitind> It's possible that theyhaven't put out versions that are compatible with Helios milestones.
[16:32:08] <rmrfslash> god forbid eclipse maintains backwards compatibility with anything
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[16:32:23] <detritux> ok, I assumed that they had because I got the screen with the choices and all :)
[16:32:34] <detritux> thanks anyway
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[16:36:11] <nitind> rmrfslash: You don't know what the cause is.  It could just be overly cautious version ranges specified in the SVN plug-in dependencies.
[16:36:40] <rcjsuen> detritux: Nothing happens as in the dialog doesn't advance?
[16:37:23] <rcjsuen> detritux: Did you try using the keyboard instead of clicking on the button with the mouse?
[16:38:12] <rcjsuen> detritux: Please talk in the channel instead of PM'ing me. ;)
[16:38:43] <detritux> woops
[16:38:44] <detritux> sry
[16:38:45] <detritux> :D
[16:39:00] <rcjsuen> You say "click" a lot, did you try using the keyboard?
[16:40:03] <detritux> no, I just clicked but could see the button being clicked (3d effect)
[16:41:03] <rcjsuen> You're on Linux?
[16:41:07] <detritux> yes
[16:41:12] <charley> detritux: you may be running into the gtk error in the faq
[16:41:14] <rcjsuen> Please try using the keyboard then.
[16:41:18] <detritux> kubuntu 9.10
[16:41:34] <rcjsuen> I'll make it clear instead of merely "beating around the bush". ;)
[16:42:49] <detritux> :D yeah, it's just that I don't know how to get the screen back without having to restart eclipse (using IRC in eclipse....)
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[16:45:52] <detritux> ok I tried with the keyboard, but it's still the same
[16:47:00] <rcjsuen> That's a strange one then.
[16:47:22] <rcjsuen> It may be worth trying the workaround anyway
[16:47:26] <rcjsuen> see 3.8 http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ
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[16:56:18] <goldFingaZ> eclipse 64bit does not start in opensuse 11.2 64bit. it just created the workspace folder and nothing happens after that. no error messages etc
[16:56:36] <goldFingaZ> i read the faq and install 64bit version of jvm...still the same problem
[16:56:42] <goldFingaZ> any help would be appreciated
[16:57:17] <goldFingaZ> btw, previously intalled the java ee sdk in the system
[16:57:19] <rcjsuen> what file did you download from eclipse.org? what is its name?
[16:57:47] <goldFingaZ> when i said nothing happens, i meant even the eclipse logo is not shown at startup
[16:58:27] <goldFingaZ> rcjsuen: i downloaded eclipse-jee-galileo-SR1-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
[16:58:47] <rcjsuen> pastebin the contents of java -version
[16:58:53] <rcjsuen> Where did you untar to
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[17:04:50] <goldFingaZ> rcjsuen: here's the java version you asked for ... http://pastebin.be/22576
[17:05:36] <rcjsuen> what happens if you invoke java -d64
[17:06:41] <Magicblaze007> how do i get to mylyn task list in eclipse?
[17:07:10] <goldFingaZ> rcjsuen: the 64bit jvm i downloaded was jre-6u17-linux-x64-rpm from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[17:07:15] <rcjsuen> magicblaze007:  Window > Show View, and find your views there I guess?
[17:08:01] <goldFingaZ> rcjsuen: when i type $java -d64, i get 'Running a 64-bit JVM is not supported on this platform'
[17:08:14] <rcjsuen> well that would probably be a problem................. ;p
[17:08:35] <goldFingaZ> yeah...that message is pretty indicative :)
[17:08:44] <goldFingaZ> now what do i do now???
[17:09:09] <goldFingaZ> could it be that i did not install the 64bit jvm in the right place?
[17:09:23] <goldFingaZ> since i installed it via an rpm file, there's not much i can do
[17:09:29] <goldFingaZ> ...after the rpm installation
[17:10:03] <Magicblaze007> thanks
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[17:12:38] <rcjsuen> goldFingaZ: I think you should get support from your distro on how to install a JRE.
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[17:12:44] <rcjsuen> I presume there's a suse irc channel somewhere.
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[17:13:28] <Magicblaze007> show view does not show -> Mylyn task list view .. ?
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[17:14:19] <Magicblaze007> am trying to follow this page: http://blogs.open.collab.net/svn/2009/06/subversion-eclipse35-easy.html
[17:14:23] <goldFingaZ> rcjsuen: ok , thanks
[17:14:48] <rcjsuen> magicblaze007:  Then I guess you need to install Mylyn first.
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[17:31:46] <charley> Magicblaze007: mylyn task lists may be hiding under the Tasks folder in Show View
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[17:55:55] <eagles0513875> :) hey guys good news re having win 64bit version of eclipse posted on the download page. i filed a bug as requested by the webmaster and he said he would take it from there.
[17:56:47] <rcjsuen> I guess you are speaking of ~298404
[17:56:48] <Arbalest> Bug 298404 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=298404 - Community / Website / unspecified - PC / Windows 7 - NEW / major / - Assignee: phoenix.ui-inbox - 64bit windows link missing on the download options page.
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[18:24:40] <eagles0513875> hahah ya rcjsuen
[18:25:09] <eagles0513875> :) i think its finally goign to get pushed to the site i remember we were discussing it the other day when i was in here
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[18:49:44] <philk_> how would I have a column in my TableViewer that displays the item number of the provided array list? I could do a table.indexOf(cell.getElement) but thats slow and lame
[18:50:41] <philk_> something like an itemindex or so
[18:51:11] <ralf_e> philk_, if you use a CellLabelProvider, it has been thought of via ViewerCell#getVisualIndex
[18:51:21] <ralf_e> (imho, never used that one)
[18:51:29] <philk_> ralf_e: thanks! Will try in a second
[18:51:55] <philk_> how can I make the last column always as wide to fill the remaining space in the table?
[18:52:07] <ralf_e> philk_, TableColumnLayout
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[18:52:49] <ralf_e> philk_, see http://www.ralfebert.de/rcpbuch/jface_tableviewer/ for examples for CellLabelProvider and TableColumnLayout (in German)
[18:53:40] <ralf_e> there is a bug in 3.5.1 though, you might see horizontal scroll bars for a width of 100%
[18:55:19] <ralf_e> btw, if you feel like it & while you are concerned with viewers: I'd love to get feedback about 297023: [JFace] [Viewers] Use ArrayContentProvider per default, deprecate constructor: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=297023 :)
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[18:55:29] <philk_> ralf_e: thanks, will check it out!
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[18:57:06] <philk_> ralf_e: commented on the bug.
[18:57:44] <philk_> ralf_e: for the TableViewer I always have to set a LabelProvider for each column? Is this the most perfomant way to implement a viewer?
[18:58:58] <ralf_e> philk_, shouldn't make a big difference, it's one method call per cell anyway
[18:59:22] <ralf_e> has been fast enough for all tables I have built so far
[18:59:31] <ralf_e> even with PropertyLabelProvider + reflection to refer to properties :)
[19:01:00] <ralf_e> (PropertyCellLabelProvider is a little util class of mine available here http://github.com/ralfebert/rcputils , and if you have to built a lot of tables, you might be interested in http://www.ralfebert.de/blog/eclipsercp/tableviewerbuilder/ ;)
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[19:01:46] <eagles0513875> n
[19:01:48] <eagles0513875> wtf
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[19:22:35] <philk_> ralf_e: TableViewerBuilder looks nice! Should go into JFace code base
[19:24:05] <ralf_e> philk_, I'm still evolving it + thinking about how I can delete the "Builder" in TableViewerBuilder :)
[19:24:35] <ralf_e> (I think there shouldn't be a 2nd class, the viewers itself should have such straightforward API)
[19:24:59] <ralf_e> but to do that, you have to look at all of them because such a change would need to be consistent
[19:25:17] <ralf_e> had not enough time for this, so it stays at github for now
[19:25:55] <philk_> ralf_e: thats true. I will probably use it for my current example project for OSGi services: http://github.com/pke/OutputDebugString-Monitor
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[19:27:17] <ralf_e> cool.
[19:27:32] <philk_> ralf_e: how would I use TableColumnLayout to set the last column to take the remaining space? cannot find it on your page
[19:28:05] <ralf_e> search for "Prozentuale Spaltenbreiten"
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[19:28:19] <ralf_e> you have to set the layout on a composite around the table
[19:28:38] <ralf_e> and you can assign pixel / percent widths to every column (and you have to assign them to every column)
[19:29:02] <philk_> ralf_e: can I mix pixel and percent widths? :)
[19:29:09] <ralf_e> you can mix absolute + percent widths
[19:29:12] <ralf_e> :)
[19:29:25] <ralf_e> also, it doesn't need to sum up to 100
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[19:35:26] <SuRfDeMoN1> Hi, not sure if this is possible and not been able to find any tutorials online, I have a laptop running linux and a laptop running vista, I would like to run a joomla website on the laptop and use eclipse to connect to it for debugging from my vista laptop, is this possible? and does anyone know a good of any good tutorials for setting this sort of thing up?
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[19:39:15] <philk__> ralf_e: TCL works great! However the VisualIndex does not work. its always 0
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[19:40:49] <ralf_e> philk__, ah, sorry, the visual index refers to the column, not the row
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[19:42:17] <ralf_e> sorry, can't find anything that would help with that
[19:42:31] <ralf_e> do you want the index in the original list or as visually shown (pre/post sort)?
[19:42:41] <philk__> ralf_e: the original index
[19:43:31] <ralf_e> hmm, not sure if the viewer even keeps track of that...
[19:44:13] <philk__> ralf_e: but one often needs to display a "#" element
[19:45:24] <ralf_e> hmm, yeah... sorry, have not done that yet, no idea apart from adding a field to the list object, which is probably not what you want to do
[19:45:36] <ralf_e> tell me if you find something :)
[19:45:42] <philk__> ralf_e: sure
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[19:47:57] <philk__> ralf_e: will just use collection.indexOf for now
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[19:56:05] <Magicblaze007> I am trying to get eclipse+svn to work on linux and It wont accept my ssh-certificate. http://blogs.open.collab.net/svn/2009/06/subversion-eclipse35-easy.html (I tried both svnkit+javahl). javahl says its not available on my centos/redhat EL box. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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[19:57:30] <ralf_e> damn, org.eclipse.ui.editors project is setup to give an error about 1.4 compliance
[19:57:49] <ralf_e> how do I disable that? can't find a setting in the project configuration
[19:59:03] <philk__> how can I get a reference to a specific open view?
[19:59:10] <philk__> from a command handler
[19:59:58] <Magicblaze007> anyone using svn+eclipse on linux-redhat-centos here?
[20:00:32] <rcjsuen> ralf_e: What do you mean exactly
[20:00:44] <rcjsuen> ralf_e: You mean you don't have a J2SE-1.4 JRE set in your ws?
[20:01:57] <ralf_e> rcjsuen, nevermind, found it, the project had the VM set in the build path (I don't even have a J2SE-1.4, this computer runs open source exclusively :)
[20:02:25] <rcjsuen> it should be possible to alter the warning/error setting i think, but anyway
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[20:02:57] <ralf_e> thought so, but couldn't find an option related to that
[20:03:02] <ralf_e> nevermind, not that important atm
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[20:05:07] <charley> philk__: not sure if this is what you're looking for, but you can try something like PlatformUI.getWorkbench().getActiveWorkbenchWindow().getActivePage().showView(viewID), or maybe see PlatformUI.getWorkbench().getViewRegistry() ?
[20:05:50] <rcjsuen> philk__: from the IWP you need to use findView to find it
[20:05:55] <rcjsuen> may be null (if not opened)
[20:05:57] <rcjsuen> or use findVR
[20:06:51] <rcjsuen> charley: Still hard at work I see, is the RH office going to shutdown for the holidays?
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[20:07:40] <charley> rcjsuen: :) Most people probably won't come in next week
[20:08:08] <rcjsuen> We're shutting down next week it seems. I'm outta here starting tomorrow.
[20:08:10] <ralf_e> philk__, HandlerUtil.getActiveWorkbenchWindow().getActiveWorkbenchPage().findViewReference()
[20:08:16] <charley> Neat :) happy holidays!
[20:08:39] <ralf_e> philk__, if you only want to know what's selected in that view, use the selection service / HandlerUtil.getCurrentSelection
[20:09:19] <rcjsuen> of course, the current selection won't work if that part is not the active part ;)
[20:09:30] <rcjsuen> charley: and to ye
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[20:27:45] <philk_> how come my UI bundle is still in resolved state although my ViewPart from it was already instantiated?
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[20:29:26] <ralf_e> philk_ loading a class only starts a bundle if Bundle-ActivationPolicy: lazy is set in the manifest
[20:30:47] <philk_> ralf_e: so I better set the policy always... cause I wanna use FrameworkUtil and it does not work if the bundle is not started.
[20:30:48] <ralf_e> damn, all the good hotkeys are taken already by the text editors. m1+numpad_plus / minus expand / collapse the text, m1+mousewheel scrolls fast. my zoom patch will not go through without discussion. :(
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[20:33:21] <charley> ralf_e: I've always affiliated ctrl + mousewheel with scrolling
[20:33:24] <charley> err
[20:33:25] <charley> zooming
[20:35:42] <ralf_e> yeah, me too, that's why I'm working on
[20:35:43] <ralf_e> ~ bug 84776
[20:35:45] <Arbalest> Bug 84776 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=84776 - Platform / Text / 3.1 - All / All - ASSIGNED / enhancement / - Assignee: platform-text-inbox - [misc] Some modifier + mouse wheel could change text size
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[20:36:30] <ralf_e> unfortunately the hotkeys are already in use by the editors
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[20:37:49] <ralf_e> I guess I will just write a patch for myself (zoom on ctrl + plus / minus / mousewheel like most applications do nowadays) and submit that for discussion :)
[20:38:30] <ralf_e> charley, oh, sorry, misread your sentence
[20:38:42] <ralf_e> what other application scrolls on ctrl + mousewheel?
[20:39:50] <charley> ralf_e: In the editor it appears to be page up/down, but I think it will be okay if you attach context to your hotkey?
[20:40:20] <ralf_e> charley, yes, but for me "zoom" (ctrl + mousewheel) in a text editor means: make the font larger :)
[20:40:25] <ralf_e> like firefox does
[20:41:51] <charley> ralf_e: me too (make text bigger), also I usually just use page up/down when I need to page up/down :)
[20:42:09] <charley> ah, your patch is for an editor?
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[20:43:40] <ralf_e> charley, ahm, yes, not for an editor, for the editor indeed
[20:43:44] <ralf_e> ~ see bug 84776
[20:44:24] <ralf_e> i'm just implementing changing the font size like firefox does for the eclipse ide
[20:44:51] <ralf_e> but i guess I have to find some other hotkeys already :)
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[20:48:09] <rhk> how come CDT won't let me use an external builder for a C project on mingw?
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[20:49:26] <charley> ralf_e: sweet! :)
[20:49:38] <charley> ~84776
[20:49:39] <Arbalest> Bug 84776 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=84776 - Platform / Text / 3.1 - All / All - ASSIGNED / enhancement / - Assignee: platform-text-inbox - [misc] Some modifier + mouse wheel could change text size
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[21:02:37] <jawbrkr> is there any plugin for eclipse so it can connect and work directory off a linux server, via ssh or ftp ?
[21:03:50] <rhk> ok, got it. make a "makefile" project, then enable auto-generated makefiles.
[21:03:57] <rhk> cdt changes too much from release to release :)
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[21:10:24] <philk_> how can make a Table always show its last row, making it basically autoscroll?
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[21:14:37] <wuntee> Is there a way to change the J2EE descriptor? I originally named the project 'AbcDef2.0' and am trying to get the descriptor to 'ad2' but for some reason it always deploys locally as 'AbcDef2.0'
[21:14:53] <wuntee> when i say deploys locally - i mean when running through eclipse
[21:15:30] <nitind> philk_: When the contents change, call Table#showItem() with the last TableItem.
[21:15:55] <nitind> wuntee: That's the server context root.  Check the project Properties dialog.
[21:15:56] <philk_> nitind: or use Viewer.reveal(), thanks
[21:16:17] <nitind> philk_: You asked about Table, not TableViewer.
[21:16:31] <nitind> Is there some trick to patching a feature when it's included by other features?
[21:16:44] <wuntee> nitind: been looking through for a bit - cant find anything. i figured the web.xml change of '<display-name>ad2</display-name>' would work - but no luck
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[21:17:46] <philk_> nitind: sorry, questions was not formulated correctly
[21:18:29] <nitind> wuntee: try the Web Project Settings property page.
[21:19:02] <wuntee> there we go - thanks
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[21:22:16] <wuntee> hmm - even though i changed that, and it says it was overwriting the project, it did not; still uses AbcDef2.0
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[21:30:25] <philk_> ralf_e: how can I force a viewer to update a specific columns labels?
[21:34:48] <ablepharus> i still don't get lucky with eclipse plugins =(
[21:35:01] <ablepharus> i always get errors when i want to install one
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[21:37:08] <ralf_e> philk_, like, the headers?
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[21:38:38] <philk_> ralf_e: Like i have a "Time" column that I want to be able to render the time absolute/relative via a command toggle. How would I refresh only this column in the whole table when the command toggle was executed?
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[21:39:18] <ralf_e> philk_, not sure if that's possible... does it really make a difference to refresh the full viewer?
[21:39:30] <philk_> ralf_e: performance :)
[21:39:41] <ralf_e> philk_, still using collection.indexof? :)
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[21:39:59] <philk_> ralf_e: still :/
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[21:41:23] <rcjsuen> philk_: doesn't ColumnViewer have a refresh method?
[21:41:47] <ralf_e> it has, but you can only refresh the full table imho, not a single column
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[21:42:42] <rcjsuen> that's kinda lame
[21:43:07] <rcjsuen> I know you can update from the TableViewer specific properties
[21:44:04] <philk_> rcjsuen: yeah, its kinda lame indeed
[21:44:33] <rcjsuen> whoops, wrong class
[21:44:46] <rcjsuen> I was thinking of ViewerColumn
[21:44:57] <ralf_e> zoooooooom: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/35227/screenshot_033_5UE7IO.png
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[21:45:12] <rcjsuen> wouldn't org.eclipse.jface.viewers.StructuredViewer.update(Object[], String[]) update specific rows?
[21:45:32] <ralf_e> rows can be refreshed with refresh(obj) imho
[21:45:35] <ralf_e> but not columns :)
[21:45:57] <rcjsuen> wouldn't org.eclipse.jface.viewers.StructuredViewer.update(Object[], String[]) update specific _columns_?
[21:46:44] <nitind> rcjsuen: No, it just lets you know whether to update a row based on those properties and the label provider.
[21:46:57] <nitind> It's still the entire row.
[21:47:16] <nitind> Unless I'm misreading it.
[21:47:18] <rcjsuen> nitind: oh you mean it still asks the label provided N times where N = column count?
[21:49:25] <philk_> how would I make the last item of a tableviewer visible?
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[21:50:00] <nitind> rcjsuen: I mean it looked like it would ask the label provider for each string whether that affected the label, and only then still refresh the row.
[21:50:25] <nitind> philk_: reveal.
[21:50:52] <rcjsuen> since TableItem has a setString method that takes an index it seems weird to refresh the whole row, i will have to test this
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[21:55:21] <ralf_e> philk_, if you only care about scrolling down -> Table#setTopIndex
[21:55:59] * ralf_e notices that every eclipse project seems to have its own formatting rules
[21:56:05] <philk_> ralf_e: I would like to make the last item in the list visible
[21:56:13] <rcjsuen> certainly seems like it sets the whole row (unless my snippet is wrong), very odd
[21:56:14] <ralf_e> no spaces before assignment operater looks wrong
[21:57:03] <ralf_e> philk_, well if you want to make the last item visible, as rcjsuen mentioned, reveal. if you want to scroll down, setTopIndex :)
[21:57:12] <philk_> JFace really, really needs some kind of SyncUpdate.run(Control, Runnable)
[21:57:39] <philk_> ralf_e: I will use reveal(collection.get(collection.size()-1));
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[21:58:47] <ralf_e> philk_, what does the control do in your SyncUpdate
[21:58:51] <ralf_e> ?
[21:59:17] <rcjsuen> Actually, nitind said reveal not me ;)
[21:59:40] <rcjsuen> ralf_e: probably check if it's disposed or not
[21:59:46] <rcjsuen> prior to running the runnable
[21:59:59] <ralf_e> ah
[22:00:02] <rcjsuen> asyncExec is an accident waiting to happen if you don't check your widget's dispose state
[22:00:06] <ralf_e> I use UIJob and do the dispose check myself
[22:00:25] <rcjsuen> for example, ~298415 ;)
[22:00:26] <Arbalest> Bug 298415 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=298415 - E4 / UI / 1.0 - PC / Windows XP - NEW / normal / - Assignee: e4.ui-inbox - StackRenderer assumes the shell has not been disposed when forcing a re-layout
[22:01:05] <ralf_e> UIJob even checks if the display has been disposed
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[22:01:13] <ralf_e> but for your widgets, you have to check it yourself
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[22:01:59] <philk_> ralf_e: thats what I say... everybody has to code that sync code again and again. A simple JFaceUtil.syncUpdate(Control, Runnable) would solve all this duplicated, error prone code
[22:02:24] <ralf_e> hmm, maybe UIJob should get a 2nd constructor
[22:02:34] <ralf_e> mostly UIJob is used to update controls
[22:03:51] <philk_> UIJob is not part of JFace and it could not be used outside the Workbench
[22:04:34] <rcjsuen> another one i hit recently ~291588
[22:04:35] <Arbalest> Bug 291588 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=291588 - Platform / Debug / 3.6 - PC / Windows XP - RESOLVED / FIXED / normal / - Assignee: Darin_Wright - Widget disposed exception when double-clicking another launch configuration
[22:04:50] <ralf_e> isn't JFace a pain to use outside the workbench as well or was this fixed?
[22:04:55] <philk_> or the Viewers should just sync themself in the refresh methods()
[22:05:08] <philk_> ralf_e: no, it works very well for tiny UI apps
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[22:05:30] <ralf_e> oh
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[22:05:50] <ralf_e> still, for workbench-based apps new UIJob(someControl, "updating the UI") would be fine
[22:05:51] <philk_> anyway... my autoscroll and time formatter work now as expected. Although the code might not be optimal
[22:06:14] <philk_> ralf_e: you could file a bug for this one... I already filed a one for JFaceUtils.sync()
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[22:06:51] <progre55> hi people! how do you specify the testing dir in eclipse?
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[22:08:57] <philk_> how do I get the toggle state of a command inside its handler?
[22:08:57] <progre55> I mean, for j-unit tests
[22:09:23] <ralf_e> philk_, yeah, will do some time soon. self-inflicted bug-filing quota already reached this year.
[22:10:07] <zstars> Is there any eclipse plugin to add functions to an existing JUnit test automatically?
[22:10:39] <zstars> You're kinda able to create tests easily, select functions to test etc, but once it is created I see no way to add new functions to it without doing it by hand :(
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[22:20:25] <AlexanderSupertr> can the docing views be locked in places?
[22:20:59] <AlexanderSupertr> i accidently double click something, and it takes on the whole workspace hiding other views
[22:21:02] <AlexanderSupertr> :(
[22:22:08] <charley> AlexanderSupertr: if you double-click it again, you can restore it to its original location
[22:23:13] <charley> AlexanderSupertr: also, right click tab --> detached will keep your maximize from covering the detached view, I think
[22:23:18] <AlexanderSupertr> charley: yes,  but can we lock the view in position so that double click does not maximize them??
[22:23:51] <charley> AlexanderSupertr: also I can't seem to maximized the detached view with a double click, and it's always on top
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[22:24:06] <charley> the downside is that you can still accidentally move them or close them :/
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[22:25:10] <AlexanderSupertr> charley: yes. that's why i am avoiding the option. : / . Thanks anyway.
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[23:03:39] <philk_> the extension editor drives me mad, zx :/
[23:04:08] <philk_> since some I-builds its always folding the entries on save and selecting the top entry. It also adds copies of entries sometimes
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[23:09:26] <philk_> why is the text on my toolbar button displayed even when there is an icon?
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[23:24:20] <philk_> paulweb515_: I have some toolbar buttons here (command driven) that disappear right after the toolbar is display (in a view)
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[23:24:53] <philk_> paulweb515_: the space they occupied is left empty. There are no commands associated with visibleWhen expressions
[23:25:30] <philk_> paulweb515_: I only have one command contribution in the toolbar that has its handler enabledWhen. If I remove this command contribution from the views toolbar, all other items appear again.
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[23:28:19] <philk_> paulweb515_: interesting, when I remove the enableWhen expression on the one commands handler, all comman contributions appear in the toolbar again
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[23:34:43] <philk_> ralf_e: how can I speed up insertions into a tableviewer? Right now after an item comes in from another thread I call viewer.refresh() async
[23:39:11] <ralf_e> philk_, try viewer.refresh(obj), that's the only thing I can think of to "speed it up"
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[23:39:33] <philk_> ralf_e: this will do nothing, I tried. It will not update the viewer
[23:40:28] <ralf_e> hmm, there is this virtual/lazy stuff which reuses the tableitem objects
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[23:40:47] <ralf_e> you could also use the raw swt table, for something like a log viewer this might be suitable
[23:40:56] <philk_> ralf_e: since I do the refresh in an async the UI slows down the adding
[23:41:13] <ralf_e> otherwise, I wouldn't know what else you could do
[23:41:30] <philk_> ralf_e: virtual I will try
[23:41:31] <ralf_e> hmm, maybe you could batch the updates
[23:42:26] <philk_> ralf_e: hmmm reveal() does not work with VIRTUAL
[23:42:43] <philk_> and there is no speed improvement
[23:42:53] <ralf_e> philk_, yep, almost nothing works with VIRTUAL, you have to do it all yourself then :)
[23:42:56] <ralf_e> if you want to the items to be as fast as possible, I'd just use SWT Table and add TableItems directly
[23:43:24] <philk_> ralf_e: I am rebuilding sysinternals DebugView... it can update its listview much quicker than I am able to do
[23:43:43] <ralf_e> then I'd only update the table now and then
[23:43:47] <ralf_e> like every 200ms or something
[23:44:04] <philk_> ralf_e: ah... have an update job?
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[23:44:50] <ralf_e> UIJob#schedule(delay) might help, you have to housekeep the "only one job at a time" yourself though
[23:45:05] <ralf_e> maybe there is some better solution around for this, but I wouldn't know of one
[23:45:20] <ralf_e> try adding to a Table directly without a JFace viewer first I'd say :)
[23:45:58] <ralf_e> philk_, oh, and are you still using Collection.indexOf? ;)
[23:46:34] <philk_> ralf_e: will try the job first :)
[23:46:43] <philk_> and yes, still Collection.indexOf
[23:47:44] <ralf_e> that slows down the process of updating a lot, doesn't it?
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[23:50:03] <philk_> ralf_e: no idea, we will see
[23:51:58] <philk_> ralf_e: trying refresh job now
[23:52:27] <ralf_e> :(
[23:52:54] <ralf_e> Collection.indexOf means it has to iterate all rows for every row. that's going to be slow :)
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