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[01:31:52] <winegoddess> how cani change the character type?
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[01:43:29] <rcjsuen> Character type?
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[05:18:42] <magicblaze0072> I am getting indentation problems using pydev in eclipse. Any ideas how to fix this? In eclipse everything looks ok, but python complains of indentation errors.
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[10:55:47] <b0red> hi.  how to change the Concole charset?
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[11:16:00] <b0red> hi.  how to change the Concole charset?
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[11:18:49] <b0r3d> hi.  how to change the Concole charset?
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[11:21:09] <Infinito> window -> preferences -> general -> workspace
[11:21:22] <Infinito> "text file encoding"
[11:21:32] <Infinito> this is what you want, right ?
[11:21:48] <Infinito> change it to utf8 or whatever and voila
[11:22:32] <b0r3d> yup thanks
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[15:34:36] <FauxFaux> Anyone feel like testing something trivial for me?  Paste http://pastie.org/749846 into any java file, comment the "static" (as documented) and save.  Expecting horrible errors.
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[15:42:34] <FauxFaux> #298250.
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[16:11:59] <rhk> apparently eclipse doesn't like it's libraries to be replaced out from under it :)
[16:12:29] <rhk> I let ubuntu update firefox and xulrunner, and eclipse crashed due to an segfault in libxul
[16:13:38] <rhk> I wasn't aware that it even used libxul
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[17:06:50] <Echidna> is there a way to make a scrollable Text widget scroll all the way to the bottom automatically?
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[17:31:45] <Arnos> How do you make Eclipse show you two views of the same file?
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[17:33:53] <Arnos> How do you make Eclipse show you two views of the same file?
[17:51:48] <Razec> Arnos, hello
[17:52:00] <Arnos> Razec: hi
[17:52:03] <ralf_e> Arnos, right click editor tab, New Editor
[17:52:42] <Arnos> ah that works great, thanks ralf_e
[17:52:55] <Razec> nice
[17:52:56] <Razec> =)
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[17:54:37] <ralf_e> Echidna, see Text#setTopIndex and Text#getLineCount
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[18:44:21] <Echidna> ralf_e: thx
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[18:52:20] <BrianHV> I have tasks that I completed a week ago that mylyn is still trying to put in my commit messages.  how can I tell mylyn not to do that?
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[20:08:24] <ilya> hello
[20:09:01] <ilya> iusing Eclipse 3.5 on Mac (build 20090920-1017)
[20:09:45] <ilya> when running a Java program in the debug mode (Cmd+Shift+F11), Debug perspective opens and goes straight to ClassLoader with error
[20:10:00] <ilya> when running regularly (Cmd+F11) - works fine
[20:10:25] <ilya> I can't debug properly on Mac; what am I doing wrong here?
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[20:11:16] <ilya> btw, getting "Exception: ClassNotFoundException" error
[20:11:26] <ilya> default project setup in Eclipse
[20:11:30] <ilya> (new Java project)
[20:11:40] <ilya> please advise
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[20:12:43] <t0rc> I've just installed the IDE but why can't I search for new software to install or updates?
[20:16:43] <rcjsuen> ~298250
[20:16:44] <Arbalest> Bug 298250 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=298250 - JDT / Core / 3.6 - PC / Windows Vista - NEW / normal / - Assignee: jdt-core-inbox - NegativeArraySizeException in StackMapFrame.duplicate
[20:18:19] <rcjsuen> rhk: well it uses xul to draw the java tooltips, as a browser
[20:18:41] <rhk> ahh, ok
[20:19:26] <rcjsuen> t0rc: Not sure I understand your queswtion.
[20:20:10] <t0rc> rcjsuen, Well I just installed the IDE and I was going to have it check for updates. But I click to check for updates and there are no Available Update Sites listed.
[20:20:27] <rcjsuen> t0rc: So the drop down has nothing you mean?
[20:21:06] <t0rc> rcjsuen, I'm assuming. I go to Check for Updates and it says: There are no update sites to search. Do you wish to open the "Available Software Sites" preferences?
[20:21:34] <t0rc> I do that and it brings me a to a list that I can manually add update sites. But I was under the impression that these sites should already be included.
[20:21:41] <rcjsuen> t0rc: How did you install Eclipse anyway
[20:22:12] <t0rc> through an Ubuntu Repository. Thus I think they may have modified it to avoid updates, so its not out of sync with the version in the repo.
[20:22:41] <rcjsuen> the empty combo box problem is explained in the faq
[20:23:58] <t0rc> rcjsuen, http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_update_Eclipse%3F    where?
[20:24:30] <rcjsuen> No, there's another more specific question.
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[20:27:08] <ilya> please advise on debug on Mac problem...
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[20:35:54] <ralf_e> t0rc, i guess it's this one http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_come_my_list_of_update_sites_is_completely_empty_when_other_people_says_theirs_has_stuff_in_it.3F
[20:36:46] <ralf_e> rcjsuen, hmm, I'd have guessed that the ubuntu packaging is causing this, too... I'm running regular Eclipse downloads shared under /opt/ without a problem... (3.5 and 3.6)
[20:36:52] <t0rc> ralf_e, heh, thanks
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[20:38:32] <rcjsuen> ralf_e: That's odd because I reproduced the problem when I untar'd in /opt/.
[20:39:57] <ralf_e> hmm, did you changed file permissions? I'm copying my Eclipse downloads to /opt/ but leave the permissions as they are, because I'm the only one whos using them. Maybe it only happens if the folder is really shared regarding file permissions / usage?
[20:40:30] <rcjsuen> yes i did
[20:40:31] <rcjsuen> ~288021
[20:40:32] <Arbalest> Bug 288021 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=288021 - Equinox / p2 / 3.5 - PC / Linux - RESOLVED / DUPLICATE / normal / - Assignee: equinox.p2-inbox - Update site combo control is empty when root owns everything
[20:41:32] <ralf_e> ah, sorry, the bug in the faq didn't mention file permissions / root - so i thought just the shared folder is causing this
[20:41:57] <rcjsuen> Indeed, I should've made the entry in the FAQ more specific.
[20:42:24] * ralf_e just utilized EMF / EMF databinding for a RCP application - wohoo!
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[20:44:08] <rmrfslash> I need a good UML editor for eclipse
[20:44:40] <rmrfslash> I tried umbrello for KDE but that one s-u-c-k-s
[20:44:47] <rmrfslash> I use Eclipse for most everything else
[20:48:05] <ralf_e> rmrfslash, you can install one from the update site, see http://www.vogella.de/articles/UML/article.html
[20:48:58] <rmrfslash> Can I can graphically build UML diagrams w/ this?
[20:49:18] <rmrfslash> I know there a a few out there where you have to code the UML diagram
[20:49:33] <rmrfslash> which isn't too bad but I need something to bang out a UML diagram quick
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[20:51:30] <ralf_e> rmrfslash, it's  a graphical UML editor, as seen in the screenshots
[20:51:46] <ralf_e> personally, I'm using OmniGraffle on the Mac, so I don't know if it's any good
[20:51:59] <ralf_e> would be interesting to hear your experiences if you should give it a try
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[20:55:27] <t0rc> whats the difference between plugins that say, are the plugin, then listed as SDK, and then listed as incubation?
[20:57:42] <rcjsuen> I wouldn't really concern myself with how it's distinguished.
[20:58:00] <ralf_e> t0rc, incubation means new, not an official Eclipse project yet. SDK means: comes with things for developers, like sources, documentation etc.
[21:00:29] <ralf_e> there is currently work going on to simplify this dialog, to hopefully it will be easier to use in upcoming Eclipse versions: http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2009/11/23/simplifying-the-equinox-p2-user-interface/
[21:02:27] <t0rc> by adding http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo/ to my list of software sites, does that mean I get access to the plugin lists as well ?
[21:04:28] <ralf_e> t0rc, yep, this site should be available by default, if it is not, you can add it yourself
[21:04:58] <ralf_e> you can just enter the url in the dialog directly ("Work with:")
[21:07:17] <t0rc> indeed
[21:07:39] <t0rc> I was getting some errors when I was installing the Java DT but then I realized it was because ubuntu bundles them with the eclipse install. RAWR.
[21:09:27] <t0rc> Eclipse versus Netbeans?
[21:11:39] <ralf_e> t0rc, I'd recommend to just download and use the official eclipse download packages. eclipse is pretty self-contained, so you uninstall just by deleting the folder.
[21:11:48] <ralf_e> always a mess if two package manages try to manage something
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[21:12:37] <t0rc> thats very true.
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[21:13:49] <t0rc> is eclipse transparent in a project? i.e., can I store my source files somewhere and keep the eclipse metadata somewhere else at least? And when I delete the project from eclipse, will I have the option to delete only the project metadata instead of the source files as well?
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[21:15:02] <ralf_e> eclipse stores it's metadata in the project folder. but you can create a project folder in another location and link source folders to use this in a transparent way
[21:16:03] <ralf_e> most projects add the eclipse metadata to their projects and even check them in the vcs, then you can import the eclipse projects on the spot using "File>Import>Existing Projects" or directly check out projects from the vcs
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[21:28:05] <nitind> t0rc: Not usually, but it varies on which plug-in's metadata you're talking about.  That's policy that's up to the developers of that plug-in.
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[21:37:13] <dos000> howdy
[21:37:31] <dos000> i have an ecore model i am parsing ...
[21:37:49] <dos000> actually the ecore model is the uml2 ecore file from eclipse
[21:38:36] <dos000> so when get to an object i can find its supertypes exept the "Element" object
[21:38:58] <dos000> any emf/ecore souls around ?
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[21:39:55] <dos000> vwegert, do you know anything about emf ?
[21:40:23] <dos000> i need help with emf .. so bad !
[21:42:10] <vwegert> dos000: just ask your question
[21:42:47] <dos000> ok ..
[21:43:24] <dos000> so i have this ecore model from eclipse UML_21.ecore
[21:44:09] <vwegert> dos000: ...maybe #eclipse-modeling is the better place, though
[21:44:38] <dos000> for some reason when i go over the supertypes of only one class (Element) by doing getEGenericSuperTypes. the returned type gets me null when i do ..
[21:44:40] <dos000> ah!
[21:46:14] <dos000> ok
[21:46:24] <dos000> but lemme throw it here as well
[21:46:42] <dos000> if i do superType.getEClassifier().getEPackage() i keep getting null !
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[22:17:32] <rcjsuen> ~298261
[22:17:33] <Arbalest> Bug 298261 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=298261 - Platform / IDE / 4.0 - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: Platform-UI-Inbox - Eclipse is unresponsive to keystrokes after screen saver
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[22:52:14] <multiHYP> hey guys
[22:53:19] <multiHYP> i am using swt.widget.ToolBar; and have a problem with its height. i have toolbar items that have no text, but images of size 16x16, however the toolbar's height is much more than 16, how can i fix this?
[22:53:42] <multiHYP> this is on mac os x
[23:03:25] <multiHYP> anybody?
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[23:13:02] <gNOn> can someone tell me where I could find color themes for Eclipse?
[23:28:39] <multiHYP> brilliant!
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