[00:01:09] <scroogey> erdal: uh, hook as in listening to key presses like space lre
[00:01:15] <scroogey> letters and then inser the text
[00:01:26] <scroogey> just like the code templates stuff for the java perspective
[00:08:31] <rcjsuen> well, hooking a key listener to every text editor that's open is technically feasible
[00:09:04] <rcjsuen> tho i don't think there's really an api way of getting there
[00:09:21] <rcjsuen> or at least, a "blessed" way
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[00:11:40] <erdal> doesnt he have to patch the text editor?
[00:12:44] <rcjsuen> erdal: it's psosible to retrieve a text editor's StyledText using pure API, tho it's kinda hack-y
[00:12:54] <rcjsuen> which would allow you to add your keylistener ;p
[00:13:27] <rcjsuen> but to do proper stuff like content proposals then that would be a different can of worms imo
[00:14:08] <erdal> can of worms :-)
[00:14:21] <scroogey> bah
[00:14:29] <scroogey> so i need to bug adobe on a daily basis then
[00:14:29] <erdal> eclipse for fishing
[00:14:49] <scroogey> i suppose i can let asteriks call every day the project manager, ghehe
[00:15:35] <erdal> or you would do what rcjsuen describes as the unblessed way of doing it...
[00:16:00] <rcjsuen> it's an interesting question tho, having global templates
[00:16:08] <rcjsuen> probably worth filing an enhancement request about
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[01:45:16] <Zoxc> how can you stop the internal builder from overwriting object files?
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[02:03:39] <Fizix> Greetings
[02:06:36] <Fizix> I'm having the darnedest time getting everything on Eclipse to run on Ubuntu. When I try to install a plugin, I'm missing this gef and that thing; it's quite a lengthy process. I tried downloading it via Synaptic and Aptitude to no avail. Next, I tried their site: I unpackaged the tarball (I grabbed multiple versions, RCP/Plugin & Java/EEE..)and ran it from wherever I unpacked it to, but it won't attempt to download and use any of the plugi
[02:06:36] <Fizix> ns through that method. Any help?
[02:09:27] <rcjsuen> asimismo: Did you solve your content assist problem?
[02:10:13] <rcjsuen> Fizix: you mean when you use the tarball it's still asking for GEF? what are you trying to install anyway
[02:14:04] <Fizix> rcjsuen, I'm trying to install an 'Android Development Kit' plugin. When I extract the tarball and run eclipse from their, it'll ask for the plugin location as it always does, but whether I point it to an online source or locally, it simply won't resolve and update.
[02:14:21] <rcjsuen> what do you mean "wont resolve and update"?
[02:14:24] <rcjsuen> you get http errors or whatever?
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[02:15:29] <Fizix> When I install it via synaptic or aptitude, I can use either the online location or the plugins stored locally on my drive, it recognizes it, allows me to click next, then from there it says unable to install because you don't have this gef, then I get that it's something else, then after that it's yet another thing
[02:16:26] <Fizix> When I run it from the extracted tarball I get from the site, what I mean by it doesn't "resolve," after I type in the online location or point it to where the plugin is stored, it simply does nothing. Doesn't update, doesn't let me click next, it acts as if I never put anything in the field.
[02:16:50] <rcjsuen> Fizix: So you mean nothing shows up in the tree below?
[02:16:56] <Fizix> Correct.
[02:17:22] <rcjsuen> that matter is addressed in the faq in channel topic
[02:18:02] <Fizix> okie dokie, thank you! I'm going to there now.
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[02:21:12] <Zoxc> can you get eclipse to use another name the output object file?
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[03:08:42] <philk_> rcjsuen: is it posssible to intercept a command execution without using AspectJ?
[03:08:56] <rcjsuen> Think not.
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[03:31:24] <philk_> and is ti possible to contribute the same menu items to a toolbars drop-down button as well as some other menu, say the main menu "tools"?
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[03:37:42] <philk_> paulweb515: is there a reason why one cannot toggle the coolbar via command if it was initially invisible? I would like to startup the app without coolbar but allow the user to display it later, depending on the "Show toolbar" command
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[06:49:55] <arrummzen> I'm using eclipse on Linux. Why don't the buttons respond correctly to the mouse (I can use them with the keyboard tab/enter)?
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[06:54:53] <NoobFukaire> arrummzen: it's a bug with a new version of GTK and the latest stable releases of eclipse
[06:55:35] <NoobFukaire> before you launch eclipse, set the follow env variable in your shell: export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
[06:55:38] <NoobFukaire> it will fix the issue
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[08:58:58] <philk_> I yet again have this problem after upgrading Eclipse its does not remove the old plugins... and even creates start config with duplicate entries
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[09:05:03] <yashi_> hmmm.. what would be the best starting point if I'd like to integrate CDT's builder for gnu make to my plugin?
[09:05:56] <yashi_> all I want is to exec make command in my builder with a few make target, but CDT already have a class to do that
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[09:16:46] <keya> yashi_: You can set the targets for build in CDT.
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[09:20:00] <yashi_> keya: do you mean that working project is manged by CDT?  I want to create my own project and plugin and just want to use CDT's builder
[09:21:32] <keya> yashi_: Then you can extend the builder for CDT and associate with your project.
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[09:40:04] <csaba> I'm writing a plugin which is supposed to create a new project. Basically I just want to create a directory, and add it to the workspace. How to do it?
[09:40:16] <csaba> I thought that I should create a new File based on ResourcesPlugin.getWorkspace().getRoot();
[09:40:20] <csaba> but this didn't work
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[10:13:50] <keya> csaba: You would need to get a ProjectHandle first and then use it to create a new projec.t
[10:14:13] <keya> Icsaba: Something like - > Project newProjectHandle = ResourcesPlugin.getWorkspace().getRoot().getProject(name);
[10:14:26] <csaba> ok I managed to create it with root.getProject(projectName).create(null)
[10:14:36] <csaba> but now I have trouble getting its path
[10:14:43] <keya> csaba: Yeah.  After creating open it.
[10:14:48] <keya> csaba: Path as in?
[10:14:53] <csaba> yeah I did open it
[10:14:57] <csaba> project.getFolder(".").getFullPath().toOSString()
[10:15:12] <csaba> I want something like /home/csaba/workspace/MyNewProject/
[10:15:35] <keya> csaba: For the project.getLocation() should help.
[10:16:17] <csaba> hmm for that, I seem to get a temporary path
[10:16:27] <csaba> /home/csaba/runtime-EclipseApplication/MyNewProject
[10:16:43] <csaba> oh or maybe that's just the test env
[10:16:46] <csaba> ?
[10:16:51] <keya> csaba: Yes that's where your project exist on the file system.
[10:17:20] <keya> csaba: As per my guess, 'workspace' is where you have written a plug-in to contribute this new project wizard.
[10:17:21] <csaba> yeah, when I'm testing the plugin, right? Once I deploy it, it will create projects in /home/csaba/workspace
[10:17:48] <keya> csaba: When you launch your Eclipse App to test this new plug-in it used another 'runtime workspace'.  Where your new project would have been created.
[10:18:05] <csaba> yeah
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[10:18:06] <csaba> ok thanks
[10:18:07] <keya> csaba:  Check Run -> Run Configurations.
[10:18:35] <keya> csaba:  There you can specify the runtime workspace.  It's not recommended to use the development workspace as runtime.
[10:18:58] <csaba> oh yeah, and currently I use an IProgressMonitor for the progress bar... is there a way I can get that window with the "Details" button, so I can output stuff
[10:19:10] <csaba> or at least output into the Console view
[10:19:33] <keya> csaba: Console view of Runtime workspace?
[10:19:48] <csaba> yeah that would be good as well
[10:19:50] <keya> csaba: For that you would need to see IConsoleManager and related classes.
[10:20:19] <keya> csaba: To see output on Development workspace, you can simply put System.out.printlns();.
[10:20:35] <csaba> yeah but that doesn't work, it doesn't output anything
[10:20:40] <csaba> at least not while testing...
[10:21:02] <keya> csaba: Check the Console view on the development eclipse workbench.
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[10:21:26] <csaba> I did... but anyway...
[10:21:28] <csaba> ConsoleManager.startConsole(equinox)
[10:21:34] <csaba> what's the equinox?
[10:22:46] <keya> csaba: Use ConsoleManager from org.eclipse.ui.internal.console package.
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[10:24:04] <csaba> no such package
[10:24:12] <csaba> just .commands and .context
[10:24:26] <csaba> .views
[10:25:11] <keya> csaba: Try Ctrl + Shift + T in Java/Plug-in  Perspective and type in ConsoleManager.
[10:25:34] <csaba> yeah maybe it's not available in the newest eclipse
[10:25:45] <csaba> org.eclipse.osgi....
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[10:26:41] <keya> csaba: Add dependency on org.eclipse.ui.console plug-in in your plug-in and try to use the class.
[10:27:29] <csaba> ah perfect :)
[10:27:30] <csaba> thanks
[10:27:37] <keya> csaba: Welcome.
[10:28:02] <keya> csaba: As per my knowledge, you need to create a new 'console' and add a IStreamListener to it or something like that.
[10:28:21] <csaba> ok I'll find out how thanks
[10:29:11] <keya> csaba: Welcome.  :-)
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[11:31:50] <philk__> rcjsuen: ~bug 297563
[11:32:05] <philk__> rcjsuen: how can I change the assigned too to PDE-UI?
[11:32:26] <rcjsuen> Users can't do that.
[11:32:47] <deSilva> rcjsuen: you're up too early!
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[11:36:57] <philk__> rcjsuen: but I have set the product and component... so someone else need to re-assign. Can you do it?
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[11:37:34] <rcjsuen> I can but I generally do not touch bugs that are not within my scope.
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[11:37:50] <rcjsuen> Dani will take care of it.
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[11:40:11] <philk__> rcjsuen: ok... I wonder how difficult it is to implement such a quickfix
[11:41:00] <philk__> rcjsuen: I have just updated to the newest ibuild and once again eclipse references the wrong, old plugins in ctrl-t. It does not use the new ones with source attachment
[11:41:36] <philk__> rcjsuen: is there anything I have to do, do refresh the index or force it to use the plugins referenced in the FEATURES its currently running on?
[11:43:02] <rcjsuen> I haven't seen that problem before, dunno.
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[11:45:48] <yann> I'd like to run some operation from outside the IDE (namely batching "PDE tools/Create Ant build file" on MANIFEST.MF on a set of projects)
[11:46:05] <yann> what documentation would help me to do that ?
[11:47:03] <philk__> rcjsuen: maybe because i have my own targetplatform also?
[11:47:23] <rcjsuen> well i admit i just use the sdk default target
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[11:56:09] <arj> what could be wrong? :) using eclipse on ubuntu 9.10, downloaded latest galileo-php and ganymede-php versions
[11:56:13] <arj> if I try to add http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.6.x to the software repositories, I can click OK like a madman but nothing happens
[11:57:37] <rcjsuen> arj: Screenshot?
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[11:58:31] <arj> ok, just a second
[12:00:04] <fixl> arj: can you try and click on the button and then hit the enter button?
[12:02:43] <arj> fixl, brilliant!
[12:03:29] <fixl> arj: not brilliant ... my eclipse behaves the same. I just was to lazy to file a bug because i havent done much java stuff lately
[12:05:48] <fixl> rcjsuen: http://i48.tinypic.com/s46p8h.jpg <-- i can click on the new next button as often as i want but it doesnt continue. It just continues when i hit enter. Using 3.5
[12:06:16] <rcjsuen> that problem is addressed in the FAQ in the channel's topic
[12:06:34] <fixl> oh :D
[12:07:41] <fixl> well i use kde
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[12:08:21] <rcjsuen> fixl: Makes no difference. People using KDE can run GTK+ programs, people using GNOME can run Qt programs.
[12:08:56] <fixl> :o
[12:09:24] <fixl> rcjsuen: thanks for the hint. It works again :)
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[12:27:06] <Serpens> is there any reasonable way to write a ctypes project in eclipse?
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[12:45:10] <philk__> is it possible to refresh a JFace tooltip manually? So that it recreates itself while its displayed?
[12:54:49] <keya> philk__: You can identify the scenarios where you want to show certain text in tool tips and set it.
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[12:58:11] <philk__> keya: I know... what I want is to update the tooltip as soon as my controls gets updated and the tooltip is currently shown
[12:58:28] <philk__> keya: maybe I can just call its activate() method... lets see
[12:58:53] <philk__> keya: but that would destroy the tooltip first and not just update its controls
[12:59:40] <keya> philk__: You can register for Control change and update the tooltip text if you have access to tooltip there.
[13:00:49] <philk__> keya: check the DefaultToolTip class... you cannot update it. When you call its setImage/setText it will not update itself. It will just save the values for its next creation
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[13:04:29] <keya> philk__: Oh okay.  Then yeah, as you said, destroying it and creating it again would be required.
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[13:39:53] <erdal> how can i add new behavior to the "Back" and "Forward" actions in the main toolbar?
[13:40:16] <erdal> e.g. go back to the last visible perspective
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[13:48:21] <erdal> rcjsuen: do you know how to change "Back" and "Forward"?
[13:48:31] <erdal> the actions in the main toolbar
[13:52:26] <rcjsuen> that's navigation history, i was of the assumption you could only change that with editors
[13:53:17] <erdal> so there is no way to add specific behavior, e.g. perspectives navigation
[13:53:59] <erdal> using the navigation history, of course
[13:55:01] <rcjsuen> Don't think so.
[13:55:35] <erdal> ok
[13:55:45] <keya> erdal: There are perspectives shortcuts available on the right corner of toolbar.  You can check that.
[13:56:10] <erdal> yes, but you have to configure this manually
[13:56:48] <erdal> if user switches to a new perspective, then the "Back" command should switch back to the previous perspective
[13:56:58] <erdal> automatically
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[13:58:10] <erdal> i will add two new actions that listen for perspective changes...
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[14:35:13] <yann> hm, what is the "delta pack", exactly ?
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[14:36:54] <magnet> yann, the native bundles for SWT for all platforms Eclipse runs on
[14:37:03] <magnet> (the fragments)
[14:37:09] <yann> ok
[14:37:46] <yann> is that *really* needed for PDE headless builds ?  http://www.vogella.de/articles/EclipsePDEBuild/article.html says that, but I find it a bit strange
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[14:38:09] <magnet> you need it if you want to build for different platforms
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[14:38:51] <yann> ok, but not for a native build ?
[14:38:57] <magnet> native build?
[14:39:12] <yann> for the platform where the build runs on
[14:39:12] <magnet> you don't do native builds with PDE build
[14:39:45] <magnet> it's not about where the build runs on, it's about where you execute the product
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[14:40:12] <magnet> anyway why not just have the delta pack?
[14:40:29] <yann> anyway, since the resulting bundles are supposed to be portable, I still don't see why we would need to have target-platform-specific stuff at build time - what did I missed ?
[14:41:18] <magnet> 1) the equinox launcher 2) the SWT native fragments
[14:41:24] <magnet> it's written in the article you linked
[14:41:36] <magnet> and it's not just build time, it's also packaging
[14:41:44] <magnet> resolving dependencies, etc
[14:42:24] <yann> hm, ok
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[14:43:05] <magnet> I don't know the specifics, but the SWT fragments extend the API with the Eclipse-ExtensibleAPI definition
[14:43:12] <yann> I'm also realizing that this article does not *really* seem to tell about headless builds - at least it only demonstrates building from the UI
[14:44:02] <magnet> Not sure, looks like it demonstrates how to make an ant file using PDE build and then running it from Eclipse
[14:44:04] <yann> I also found an old (like 3.0.2) article about the releng tools, but I'm not sure to which extent what it describes is still valid for 3.5
[14:44:34] <magnet> Looks like the article is enough to make a headless build
[14:44:37] <yann> my problem being, to generate the build.xml from outside eclipse (which the releng tools seem to do)
[14:44:42] <magnet> ah
[14:44:56] <magnet> well I can't help you, maybe look at the buckminster project
[14:45:10] <yann> ah, will do, thanks
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[15:05:47] <philk__> is there a way to disable the "Reset" and "Apply" buttons on the Properties dialog?
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[15:15:22] <rcjsuen> in your page subclass
[15:15:29] <rcjsuen> you can override something t oreturn false
[15:15:36] <rcjsuen> needsApplyButtons or whatever
[15:16:04] <nitind> ...is a method to call or override, check its doc.
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[15:17:00] <rcjsuen> i think it's tthe former now that i think about it
[15:19:46] <yann> magnet: buckminster really looks like what I was looking for (although maybe a lot more than that ;) - thx much!
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[15:22:02] <magnet> np :)
[15:22:08] <philk__> rcjsuen, nitind: I am using PreferenceUtil.createPropertiesOn to create the page... so I cannot subclass
[15:22:17] <rcjsuen> Then you are screwed.
[15:23:25] <philk__> rcjsuen: seems so :)
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[15:23:39] <nitind> philk__: Is it not your own page you're showing?
[15:24:03] <philk__> nitind: its my own page
[15:25:26] <nitind> philk__: if it's your own page class, do whatever you want with it.
[15:25:30] <philk__> nitind: org.eclipse.ui.internal.dialogs.PropertyDialog.createDialogOn(Shell, String, Object) is used under the hood to create the page and add contributions... but there is no way to say "i do not want to have those darn buttons on my page"
[15:26:24] <philk__> rcjsuen: ah right, I can overwrite noDefaultAndApplyButton() in my page!
[15:26:28] <philk__> nitind: nevermind :)
[15:26:31] <rcjsuen> right...that :o
[15:28:16] <philk__> rcjsuen: the design of this method is weird though. Why not have a method shouldCreateDefaultAndApplyButton() that returns true by default and I could overwrite. Would save the baseclass even a useless field.
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[15:30:22] <philk__> is there an easy way in JFace Databinding to create Label / Read-Only text fields for a given Bean and all its public fields?
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[15:35:14] <fenris> hi
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[15:37:25] <rcjsuen> I didn't design that class, don't ask me. ~.~
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[15:38:36] <philk__> rcjsuen: just saying :)
[15:38:51] <philk__> so whats the different use cases for IEE and IEEF?
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[15:46:14] <fenris> hm, i am currently playing around with jboss/eclipse intergration, but when i am changing server settings (such as the port) in the eclipse server configuration, it seems that those changes are completely ignored, and the server still starts with the default port of 8080
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[15:46:42] <fenris> am i doing something wrong? it looks like a bug to me
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[16:01:45] <tamm0r> hi! can anybody give me a hint how to make a multi-line table cell?
[16:04:17] <nano-> GWT 2.0 depends on 'org.eclipse.platform.feature.group [3.5.0,3.6.0)', but this can't be found by the software installer.
[16:04:27] <nano-> Any ideas on where I can find that component?
[16:06:17] <yashi> keya: sorry to be late but "extend the builder for CDT" means I should use some extension points form CDT, right?
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[16:14:40] <codesmart> hi, how can i set a swt.treecolumn to editable false. I am googling around but ...
[16:16:07] <rcjsuen> tamm0r: not possible, you'd have to look at the Nebula project
[16:19:14] <erdal> tamm0r: should be possilbe with jface, imo
[16:19:42] <erdal> http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/JFaceSnippets#Snippet006TableMultiLineCells
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[16:20:32] <tamm0r> erdal: that's exactly what I was looking for... thanks!
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[16:21:41] <rcjsuen> oh, owner draw, you have made me live a lie
[16:24:00] <erdal> no, you were tinking of just swt
[16:24:10] <erdal> and in swt, you are right, that is not possible :-)
[16:24:26] <rcjsuen> erdal: but jface uses swt apis ;)
[16:24:43] <rcjsuen> so technically if you use the measure and paint events
[16:24:47] <rcjsuen> it should be possible i would think ;)
[16:24:52] <erdal> now, you feel better, i think
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[16:25:15] <rcjsuen> well, not the first time i realize i've been living a lie
[16:25:20] <rcjsuen> it's almost become...not so much a surprise
[16:25:45] <erdal> dont say that
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[16:50:40] <keya> codesmart:  You are using celleditors?
[16:51:03] <keya> codesmart: Add cellmodifiers and set modify=false for the column of your choice.
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[18:18:05] <rretzbach> Hi can you recommend a non-osgi cross-platform SWT app from which I can steal build-scripts?
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[18:58:58] <kaje> If I have a view that should only be open when a specific kind of editor is open, should I be creating a perspective for use with that kind of editor?
[19:00:05] <kaje> or, is there a way from an editor to easily open a view and place it next to the editor?
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[19:06:24] <NoobFukaure> I've written a compiler that generates java classes and I have a builder registered with eclipse and it creates the classes just fine. But I want to be able to use the generated classes with JDT, anyone know if it's easy to make the JDT tools aware of these classes?
[19:07:35] <NoobFukaure> I'm creating the classes in the JDT output folder, with the proper package hierarchy
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[19:08:38] <NoobFukaure> I was hoping it would just see them in there and make them available for use
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[19:09:26] <rcjsuen> you should make a class folder in the project's build path and throw them in there instead i would think
[19:09:34] <rcjsuen> by classes you mean .class right
[19:09:38] <NoobFukaure> yeah
[19:09:50] <NoobFukaure> okay I'll look at doing that, thanks
[19:10:54] <daggs1> hello, is there any problems with the eclipse download site? I'm using 3.5.1 and trying to install mylyn but it seems that the update manager cant connect to the updates and the galileo repository due to http errors 503 and 403
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[19:19:55] <artrins> hello...i try to use Eclipse Pulsor for development project in mobile application field. I can use Pulsar Ide for Symbian or Android development?
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[19:23:30] <carranca> is there anyway to create class templates for eclipse? I want to do something like: "Create new repository" with a name and that should create me an interface I<name>Repository, a class <name>Repository and some included inheritance
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[19:33:12] <rretzbach> Can I make small changes on binary level to class files?
[19:34:44] <rcjsuen> rretzbach: Not sure I understand. Sure one could parse the bytecode and modify it.
[19:35:24] <rretzbach> Similar to asm instructions?
[19:36:54] <rcjsuen> It's kind of like assembly I suppose.
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[19:53:59] <egonw> moin... #bioclipse is using a custom target-platform... but since I am using the Eclipse 3.5 from Ubuntu now, extra features I download end up in $HOME... so, I need to add a folder to the target-platform.target file... but I cannot find the variable for $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3_foo_bar/plugins, such the files has things like @{eclipse_home}/plugins too... what is the @{variable} I should use for user-based plugin folders?
[19:54:28] <philk__> anybody using JNA here?
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[19:56:17] <laocoon> anyone around?
[19:56:27] <egonw> yes
[19:56:55] <laocoon> I have been having some issue with eclipse 3.5
[19:57:45] <nitind> ~ask
[19:57:45] <Arbalest> If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question. Skip the "meta-questions" like asking whether anyone uses X also as a precursor to check whether anyone can help you with a problem you have with X. Just ask the real question you have about X.
[19:57:48] <egonw> laocoon: it's good IRC practice to just state your question...
[19:57:58] <egonw> ah :) indeed
[19:58:09] <private_meta> yeah, just skip my question
[19:58:25] <laocoon> I am on ubuntu, and installed through Ubuntu Software Center then removed it and downloaded the Java version I extracted it to /opt/eclipse
[19:59:04] <nitind> private_meta: You might have better luck in the forums.
[19:59:05] <egonw> private_meta: what was your question? I just joined in to ask mine...
[19:59:07] <laocoon> when I go into Available Software and click add, type in a name and location and click ok, it does nothing
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[19:59:27] <nitind> < private_meta> In Eclipse CDT, Can someone tell me how I can see the full array that's saved in a pointer when debugging something?
[19:59:33] <private_meta> haha... nono... my nick is meta... so all I ask is pretty much meat questions if I'm picky
[19:59:35] <egonw> laocoon: what name and location did you add? literally
[19:59:44] <private_meta> *emta
[19:59:46] <private_meta> *meta
[19:59:56] <egonw> private_meta: sorry... I'm not a CDT user...
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[20:00:09] <private_meta> that question I answered already, nitind, thanks, i was trying to be humorous
[20:00:26] <rcjsuen> rretzbach: Vuze is cross-platform and SWT. But they're GPL. :)
[20:00:39] <rretzbach> Thanks
[20:00:42] <private_meta> I was just hilighted by "meta-question"
[20:01:06] <rcjsuen> laocoon: Did you try using the keyboard? Or resizing the dialog?
[20:01:38] <laocoon> I actually got the site added by drag-dropping into the Available Software Sites preferences
[20:01:46] <laocoon> but when I click on it it shows nothing
[20:02:10] <egonw> laocoon: check if there is no conflicting whitespace around the URL
[20:02:14] <egonw> like newlines
[20:02:45] <rretzbach> Can I debug eclipse plugins without having the source code?
[20:02:51] <laocoon> I saw the plugin when I installed through Ubuntu, nothing shows up when I do it after installing to /opt/eclipse
[20:03:08] <laocoon> egonw: no newlines or other whitespace
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[20:05:07] <armence> Hey all, I am trying to edit a css file in eclipse and for some reason it uses tabs instead of spaces while it uses spaces for both java and xml files (at least)
[20:05:25] <armence> Can someone help me out with that?
[20:06:34] <egonw> laocoon: I have no further ideas...
[20:07:11] <laocoon> it will not allow me to install the software from the archive I downloaded
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[20:07:40] <egonw> laocoon: but you do get to see a list of installable features?
[20:07:46] <laocoon> no
[20:07:51] <laocoon> that's the problem =p
[20:08:00] <laocoon> it doesn't make it that far :D
[20:08:09] <rcjsuen> so you mean the list is blank
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[20:08:15] <laocoon> yes
[20:08:16] <egonw> ok, then I understood you correctly the first time
[20:08:58] <rcjsuen> laocoon: Did you try resizing the dialog?
[20:09:10] <laocoon> let me try
[20:09:26] <rcjsuen> for example, really small, the nback to normal / bigger
[20:10:09] <laocoon> the "Add Site" dialog doesn't offer any resizing
[20:10:52] <laocoon> when I click "OK" in that dialog the button turns red and does nothing I have to click Cancel 2x to close it
[20:11:25] <rcjsuen> add site
[20:11:39] <rcjsuen> It seems I was thinking of a different dialog.
[20:11:52] <laocoon> resizing the available software after canceling seemed to work :-\
[20:11:55] <laocoon> thanks?
[20:11:56] <laocoon> lol
[20:12:25] <rcjsuen> why are you clicking in the preferences anyway
[20:13:47] <laocoon> eclipse website lists two ways of adding sites and that was the second and only way to get the Software Site added to the list
[20:13:59] <laocoon> now when I select the feature, and click ok to get it to install it does nothing...
[20:14:18] <rcjsuen> did you try using the keyboard instead of clicking?
[20:14:32] <laocoon> ah
[20:14:44] <laocoon> that worked... what's the reason for needing to do that?
[20:15:03] <rcjsuen> see faq in channel topic
[20:16:08] <egonw> laocoon: btw, did you read about the GWT 2.18 problem on Ubuntu with respect to Eclipse 3.5 ?
[20:16:48] <rcjsuen> gwt, i think you mean gtk+?
[20:17:00] <egonw> oops... yes, of course...
[20:17:28] <egonw> laocoon: sorry :(
[20:17:39] <laocoon> not yet
[20:17:42] * egonw has been struggling with classpath issues all day...
[20:18:12] <egonw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/442078
[20:18:16] <laocoon> I had been developing on windows and recently dual-booted to try and get away from windows...
[20:18:27] <egonw> look at comment #8 -> export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true
[20:18:38] <egonw> if pressing buttons does not do anything, that might be the cause too
[20:18:54] <egonw> run that export command, than reboot Eclipse
[20:18:56] <egonw> then
[20:18:59] <laocoon> oh yeah.. I was that in one of the shell scripts someone made for running eclipse...
[20:21:44] <egonw> about my question, some more detail is now on stackoverflow: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1890297/how-can-i-point-from-an-eclipse-target-platform-target-file-to-my-home-eclipse
[20:22:07] <egonw> still desparately looking for an answer on the eclipse pde question
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[20:23:12] <laocoon> thanks guys!
[20:23:36] <laocoon> I feel dumb that I didn't try that earlier since I saw it like 3 hours ago in some shell script...
[20:25:36] <egonw> eclipse makes me feel dumb all the time :)
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[20:26:09] <laocoon> sometimes I wonder why we can't all just use nasm lol
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[20:36:13] <yashi_> hmm.  it seems like org.eclipse.cdt.core.CommandLauncher is gone
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[22:59:59] <NoobFukaure> is the site help.eclipse.org manually updated or is it some kind of cool software? if it's software, is it open source or available to purchase?
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[23:09:36] <discodan> NoobFukaure, The help inside eclipse is basically a browser pointed at a web server running from eclipse.  I believe help.eclipse.org is the same thing
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[23:10:02] <mren> hi
[23:10:05] <NoobFukaure> discodan: yeah, what I'm curious about is that web software
[23:10:28] <mren> are questions about pydev allowed in here?
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[23:11:45] <discodan> NoobFukaure, take a look at the org.eclipse.help feature in the SDK.  I think it is probably org.eclipse.help.webapp that is doing the work
[23:12:38] <mseiler> hi all, I have a java program and eclipse is configured to run it through the 'run' button.  Now I need to run the same config from command line.  How can I figure out what exact config eclipse uses when the 'run' is executed?
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[23:22:21] <asimismo> mseiler: Run it from Eclipse. While it is running go to the Debug Perspective. Right-click on the process and select Properties.
[23:23:30] <mseiler> asimiso: thanks, thats what I was looking for.
[23:23:48] <asimismo> np
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[23:40:13] <majestr0> Hello
[23:43:03] <rcjsuen> it's open source and runs on top of jetty, used to be tomcat
[23:43:38] <rcjsuen> mren: you could try tho you may be better off asking in whatever support channels pydev provides, mailing list, forums, whatever they have
[23:43:48] <NoobFukaure> awesome thanks guys
[23:44:06] <NoobFukaure> oh rcjsuen, from my question earlier about generated bytecode and JDT classpath
[23:44:20] <NoobFukaure> I ended up creating a classpath container extension
[23:44:41] <NoobFukaure> which worked out nicely :)
[23:44:48] <mren> k, it's about the tasts (TODO: FIXME:, ...) as they don't get displayed in the tasks view, although I think I set up the python path correctly
[23:45:08] <rcjsuen> oic
[23:45:56] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: Thank you for sharing your solution.
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[23:46:45] <rcjsuen> N&N http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.6M4-200912101301/eclipse-news-M4.html
[23:46:53] <rcjsuen> Update http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.6milestones
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[23:48:14] <rretzbach> Hi. Is there a way to quickly close a wizard out of the scope of a wizardpage?
[23:48:29] <rretzbach> I mean bypassing all validations etc.
[23:48:57] <rcjsuen> I think there's a public performCancel() method...?
[23:50:50] <rretzbach> Tried that, didn't work.
[23:51:51] <rcjsuen> maybe you could elaborate what exactly you're trying to achieve
[23:52:02] <rcjsuen> and some code / what you've tried / what failed / etc
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[23:54:22] <majestr0> is someone here, who have worked a little bit with JFace Data Binding ??
[23:54:49] <rcjsuen> you're probably better off just asking your question
[23:57:09] <majestr0> okay





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