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[00:35:55] <anli_> rcjsuen: ok, using the keyboard to press the button worked, so now, whats wrong with the button? :)
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[00:43:10] <rcjsuen> anli_: See faq in channel topic.
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[00:43:54] <njbartlett> ~297142 (Yes I was annoyed)
[00:44:11] <njbartlett> Huh? No bot??
[00:44:15] <rcjsuen> ~297142
[00:44:16] <Arbalest> Bug 297142 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=297142 - EMF / CDO / unspecified - PC / Mac OS X - NEW / normal / - Assignee: emf.cdo-inbox - Documentation does not exist
[00:44:48] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Oh the bot only pays attention to you now?
[00:45:02] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: can't have stuff after it
[00:45:35] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: OIC
[00:45:35] <rcjsuen> if you start with ~, then no more no less
[00:45:35] <rcjsuen> but you're welcome to do ~297142 blaksjdflksjadflkajsdfl;
[00:45:35] <Arbalest> Bug 297142 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=297142 - EMF / CDO / unspecified - PC / Mac OS X - NEW / normal / - Assignee: emf.cdo-inbox - Documentation does not exist
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[00:46:29] <robot_jesus> how in the world do I erase my SVN password for subclipse ?
[00:52:24] <robot_jesus> ridicoulous
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[00:53:07] <rcjsuen> that question seems to be asked maybe once a week, i guess no one ever opened an enhancement request to Subclipse
[00:53:11] <rcjsuen> well, that or it hasn't been fulfilled ;p
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[02:07:19] <Graf_Ithaka> cu@all
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[02:13:14] <elad`> How do I get packages to show in a hierarchical manner?
[02:13:34] <rcjsuen> ~gfaq
[02:13:35] <Arbalest> The answer you seek may be in our graphical FAQs! Screenshots are provided to guide you through the process - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs
[02:14:19] <elad`> Thanks. Bye.
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[02:14:47] <rcjsuen> well i hope elad` actually looked at the page
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[02:51:59] <Technobabble> what's the difference between eclipse-phpeclipse and PDT?
[02:52:09] <Technobabble> and do they conflict?
[02:53:01] <rhk> grr. CDT needs an easy means to copy configuration from one project to another
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[02:54:40] <Dean1> any1 here using phpjavabride for reports?
[02:55:07] <rcjsuen> Technobabble: They're two different plug-ins. I would expect a conflict personally.
[02:55:29] <Technobabble> i just removed phpeclipse for PDT
[02:58:46] <Technobabble> when you guys look in your general > editors > file associations, what do you see for *.php files?
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[03:01:24] <rhk> rcjsuen: are you still working on that uuid thing?
[03:01:53] <rcjsuen> rhk: I'm still working on the merging, the identification problem is resolved now I think.
[03:02:06] <rcjsuen> Well, I'm refactoring all 300-400+ of my tests to verify.
[03:02:20] <rhk> rcjsuen: I thought of a really good argument against putting ids on everything
[03:02:25] <rhk> if thats how you're going still
[03:02:35] <rcjsuen> rhk: Please comment on ~295524 then ;)
[03:02:36] <Arbalest> Bug 295524 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=295524 - E4 / UI / 1.0 - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: remysuen - Need to devise a strategy for merging user changes to the UI with the application's UI definition
[03:02:41] <rhk> CDT does that in the .cproject files, and it sucks badly
[03:03:58] <rhk> it makes it really hard to manipulate .cproject files manually. you can't just diff them to see what options are changed between them
[03:04:36] <rcjsuen> the ids shouldn't change
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[03:08:09] <rhk> I created a CDT project a few weeks ago, and spent hours (literally) getting the configuration just right
[03:08:25] <rhk> I created a new CDT project today which needs to use those same configuration changes.
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[03:09:03] <rhk> if CDT didn't have unique ids on all of its config parameters, I could just diff them and merge the changes into the new .cproject
[03:09:27] <rhk> now there is so much noise in the diff that it makes it take almost as long as simply remaking all the changes in the gui
[03:09:39] <rhk> probably my biggest beef with CDT
[03:10:00] <rhk> nearly every line shows up in the diff as changed.
[03:10:11] <rhk> the ones that don't are end-tags
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[03:10:58] <rhk> and the lines are so long, they don't fit side by side on the monitor. and this is a 1920x1080 display
[03:12:37] <Dean1> phpjavabridge?
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[03:16:31] <rcjsuen> I don't think that'll be a problem in this case as the ids should not change.
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[03:19:01] <jieryn-w> i'm using eclipse 3.5, and i'm executing a Run on a very simple application which does a hello world; if i make a change in the msg and then Run it again the message is not updated
[03:19:14] <jieryn-w> i also see this kind of thing happening with junit tests ...
[03:19:23] <jieryn-w> where it's like the cache hasn't flushed or something
[03:19:36] <jieryn-w> how can i force it to run what is in the actual editor (yes, the file is saved)
[03:20:39] <rcjsuen> maybe you don't have autobuild turned on
[03:25:14] <jieryn-w> it is
[03:25:15] <rhk> rcjsuen: reading all the comments on that bug before I post a comment.
[03:25:22] <jieryn-w> rcjsuen: i even clean the project, and then re-run, no joy
[03:26:06] <rcjsuen> maybe you could try running from the command line
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[03:27:02] <jieryn-w> hm
[03:27:04] <jieryn-w> maybe
[03:29:10] <jieryn-w> ok, that failed too
[03:29:14] <jieryn-w> i have separate output dir
[03:29:23] <jieryn-w> when i ran the .class from the bin/ it gave me the old string
[03:30:10] <jieryn-w> ok, it's not even compiling
[03:30:10] <jieryn-w> wtf
[03:30:30] <rcjsuen> try in a new ws
[03:33:22] <jieryn-w> ok, got it
[03:33:32] <jieryn-w> had a build path problem that wasn't being displayed for some strange reason
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[03:43:01] <Leemp> How do you go about importing classes from another project?
[03:43:56] <rcjsuen> i a) use my friend called copy/paste, or b) add a dep from project A to B
[03:46:35] <Leemp> rcjsuen: A dependency from another project , is this the same as adding a project on the build path?
[03:46:40] <rcjsuen> yes
[03:46:43] <Leemp> (under project properties)
[03:46:45] <Leemp> k, thanks :)
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[04:31:44] <rhk> yay. OSGI services implemented using native (JNI) code. fun.
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[04:39:13] <Lincesilenciosa> :)
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[05:01:33] <Mr_Grim> is there a css intelisense plugin for eclipse?
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[05:15:27] <nitind> Mr_Grim: WTP's CSS editor has content assist, if that's what you mean.
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[06:17:05] <pingveno> Does Eclipse have a word wrap setting?
[06:17:17] <pingveno> Dynamic word wrap, that is.
[06:18:54] <nitind> No.
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[06:20:54] <pingveno> Weird
[06:21:05] <pingveno> That seems like a fairly basic feature to have.
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[06:54:10] <mpriscella> i think that the build path got screwed up in my eclipse installation.  i'm getting errors in my project like 'java.util.Scanner cannot be resolved' and 'String cannot be resolved to a type'.  can anybody help?  i'm running it on an ubuntu based system.
[06:55:05] <nitind> So, check your project's build path.
[06:59:26] <mpriscella> i did and everything seems to be pointing to the right places.  also it's not just one project, it's affecting all of the projects in my workspace
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[07:00:07] <mpriscella> i know that these are probably stupid questions but i'm not too comfortable with build paths and whatnot lol sorry
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[07:05:28] <solifugus> does eclipse have an easy way to install modules... I am looking for python.
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[07:27:21] <solifugus> Ok... I went to Help -> Install New Software, entered the URL.... On the screen to review and agree to licenses, it won't ungrey the "next" button.. ~!!@!#
[07:28:56] <solifugus> wait.. I think it just wants me to click on "Finished"
[07:29:09] <solifugus> just guessing but it's now doing stuff...
[07:29:51] <solifugus> geeez...  made me waste so much time on that screen..
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[07:47:36] <JacobSingh> Using PHP editor, every time I hit space after the assignment operator =>, computer hangs for 5-10 seconds trying to come up with a list of stuff.  Can I just turn this off?  I have auto-code assist off already
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[10:25:12] <hadean> hi there.
[10:25:46] <hadean> can i get PDT support in here as well?
[10:26:43] <hadean> he tells me that http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo is no repository
[10:29:05] <tasslehoff> We have checked in our .project and .cproject to svn. If I check out 2 working copies wc1 and wc2, I'm not allowed to import the projects from both trees, since eclipse says it already exists in my workspace.
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[10:30:58] <hadean> after a restart it works Oo
[10:31:03] <hadean> eclipse is weired :P
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[11:07:20] <yann||work> I have problems with the ant script exported by PDE to build OSGI plugins
[11:07:40] <nano-> I'm trying to use buckminster but it keeps failing when i install the headless stuff according to the guide on eclipse.org: http://2e8f2a48081e15ef.paste.se/
[11:07:45] <yann||work> it I run it from command-line it only creates a bin/ directory, but does not build anything
[11:08:11] <yann||work> and if I open it in eclipse, the "ant" view simply does not show any target
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[11:08:32] <yann||work> is that normal (for some definition of "normal" ;) ?
[11:10:39] <nano-> Almost no tutorials on buckminster show how it works from commandline :/
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[11:13:24] <ZeekDaGeek> Is it possible to have eclipse have a source folder where it'll keep all the code as I typed it and an output folder where it'll save all the code like minified and what ever?
[11:15:07] <codesmart> Hello, someone familiar with propertytesters? In the doc there stands, that each time it's invoked, it could be a new instance. But I registered my one as a listener for changes in the model to update the menuitems. Actually it works, because it's each time the same instance of my propertytester. But otherwise, how do I remove the listener, without programming another class which stores my registrered instances.
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[11:30:56] <philk_> njbartlett: hi! When I have my DS being a ManagedService and referencing EventAdmin it will not be instantiated unless I set is always activate property
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[11:31:54] <philk_> njbartlett: would it be instantiated if a CM would be in the system and a Configuration for the DS service.pid would be supplied?
[11:32:59] <njbartlett> philk_: Why are you publishing as a ManagedService? You should never have to do that with DS
[11:34:06] <philk_> njbartlett: no? How would CM be able to change this services properties?
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[11:34:43] <njbartlett> philk_: DS integrates with CM natively. Your component will automatically receive configurations that have a PID matching the component name
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[11:35:51] <philk_> njbartlett: so my component would not publish any interface then (and therefore automatically instantiated)? Its basically a Thread that polls another Service in the system and publishes the poll results via EventAdmin
[11:36:13] <philk_> njbartlett: also in that regard I wonder if the component should extend Thread or have it as a member field
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[11:36:31] <njbartlett> philk_: Right, if your component doesn't publish a service then it will be "immediate" by default
[11:37:07] <njbartlett> philk_:  Got to go, TTYL
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[11:41:00] <philk_> paulweb515: I have a toolbar dynamic item that I would like to create depending on the number of certain services in the system. I know I asked before, but forgot the answer. How would I react to changes in the OSGi system and update the UI (the dynamic item)?
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[12:19:11] <ZeekDaGeek> Is it impossible to rename things from within eclipse
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[12:19:43] <ZeekDaGeek> Oh found it
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[12:43:19] <ZeekDaGeek> Trying to word questions sucks.
[12:43:22] <ZeekDaGeek> :D
[12:44:15] <ZeekDaGeek> Hmm
[12:45:27] <ZeekDaGeek> I'm working on a project now and I'd like to be able to upload just the changes since my last upload to site's FTP server...
[12:46:47] <ZeekDaGeek> Now theres a couple FTP plugins out there for Eclipse and some of them said they've been deprecated, which FTP plugin should I use, or should I set up a SVN or something?
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[13:06:31] <ZeekDaGeek> I guess once the server has calmed down I'll enter my question, it seriously got bumped off with that little server fart.
[13:09:49] <njbartlett> philk_: And you checked the PID that your ManagedService is registered with?
[13:10:13] <Echidna> is it possible to assign additional keywords to words/topics in the help
[13:10:23] <Echidna> so the topics are found from the search field
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[13:12:45] <philk_> njbartlett: my component.name is the same as the PID should be
[13:13:11] <njbartlett> philk_: Oh so this is a DS question. Then what are you talking about with the update method?
[13:13:33] <philk_> njbartlett: also the bundle monitor does not load configurations when started up. You first have to create a new one (actually an old one) for it to show up in the view
[13:13:46] <philk_> njbartlett: my DS component implements ManagedService
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[13:24:53] <philk_> njbartlett: obviously its not working
[13:24:56] <philk_> njbartlett: you wrote earlier today, that I neither need to publish this interface from DS components nor set the service.pid property as this will be done by SCR
[13:25:40] <erdal> when adapting e4: will the org.eclipse.e4.* namespaces change in future?
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[13:27:58] <paulweb515> erdal: maybe :-)
[13:28:07] <erdal> that would be bad :-(
[13:28:20] <paulweb515> codesmart: ping
[13:28:22] <erdal> cause i would have to refactor a lot
[13:28:48] <paulweb515> erdal: there's no API at all right now, and the org.eclipse.e4.* namespace is an incubator project
[13:28:50] <erdal> but it would be bad either to keep that namespace :-P
[13:28:55] <philk_> paulweb515: when I define 2 toolbars with the same ID in a menuContribution for toolbar:org.eclipse.ui.trim.status in different bundles... will the toolbar items be merged when both bundles are loaded?
[13:29:49] <paulweb515> erdal: for the bundles that graduate to Eclipse 4.0 ... well we either rename them, or we don't
[13:29:54] <paulweb515> There, that was less helpful :-)
[13:30:09] <philk_> paulweb515: also is it possible to have a toolbar not show up (in the trim area) if it does not contain any items?
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[13:30:45] <paulweb515> philk_: I'm not sure ... if one plugin is an add-on you can define the toolbar in the first one and just reference the toobar id in the second plugin
[13:31:05] <paulweb515> philk_: right now, that's the only way to make toolbars disappear is to make all of the items disappear (or for it to be empty)
[13:31:24] <Echidna> is it possible to assign additional keywords (as in words that are not in the text) to topics in the help so the topics are then returned via search?
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[13:31:37] <rcjsuen> ZeekDaGeek: There is only one output folder. Though I don't know if that answers your question.
[13:31:38] <erdal> paul: are there any "migration guides" to describe to be aware of potential pitfalls when adapting e4?
[13:32:04] <ZeekDaGeek> Not really
[13:32:05] <philk_> paulweb515: it could be that only one of the plugins is loaded so I could not be sure that the toolbar is there
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[13:32:13] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: for java you can create multiple output folders for multiple source folders
[13:32:13] <philk_> whats with the netsplit today?
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[13:32:27] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: shocking
[13:32:29] <philk_> paulweb515: so if my toolbar would contain no items, it would not be visible?
[13:32:52] <rcjsuen> ZeekDaGeek: what did you mean here anyway <ZeekDaGeek> Is it possible to have eclipse have a source folder where it'll keep all the code as I typed it and an output folder where it'll save all the code like minified and what ever?
[13:33:29] <rcjsuen> ZeekDaGeek: As to your FTP situation, wouldn't you use version control anyway?
[13:33:45] <paulweb515> Echidna: I've never seen it done, but I would imagine if you could it would be via one of the org.eclipse.help.* extension points ... it might be that because it's defined in one of the XMLs (toc.xml, for example) that you can't do it ... unless the XML allows you to define keyword-topic associations that can reference another contributions toc
[13:34:03] <erdal> paulweb515: are there any "migration guides" to describe potential pitfalls to be aware of when adapting e4?
[13:34:28] <paulweb515> philk_: I think that it won't be visible.  If your toolbar only contains invisible items its not visible, I would hope it works the same way
[13:34:28] <philk_> paulweb515: its not working... my only toolbar item got disabled now and in the plugin.xml I have set it to "visibleWhen enabled" but the toolbar with the item is still there
[13:34:41] <Echidna> paulweb515: and the index.xml keywords are different?
[13:35:19] <paulweb515> Echidna: dunno ... I haven't used the help system ... you could ask in the help newsgroup for a more definitive answer
[13:35:38] <paulweb515> erdal: there's no migration guide currently, as the system framework is still in a lot of flux
[13:35:40] <philk_> paulweb515: maybe thats a speciality of the trim area? The progress toolbar is also visible although there is currently no progress running
[13:35:49] <Echidna> ok thx
[13:36:07] <paulweb515> erdal: one thing I know ... once the model settles down, we'll have an upgrade path so that older models can be read with the latest ecore model
[13:36:30] <ZeekDaGeek> rcjsuen, basically having two different versions of my PHP files, my source that I'd comments in and the code being very user readable and then a production version which has no regard for if a user's able to read it or not and its all about keeping it as few bytes as possible, no tab structure or comments.
[13:36:44] <paulweb515> philk_: it might be a "hiccup" in the trim area (as opposed to something that was added to the main coolbar, as the coolbar manage seems to correctly clean up)
[13:37:28] <rcjsuen> No idea there, I don't do PHP.
[13:39:00] <erdal> paulweb515: then, this is not the right time yet to migrate existing rcps to e4?
[13:40:36] <rcjsuen> you are welcome to look at the existing structure and bring up things that are missing but is important to you
[13:40:38] <philk_> paulweb515: but the trim area is nothing more than a coolbar too, isn't it?
[13:44:13] <paulweb515> erdal: what rcjsuen is important, there's nothing wrong with trying to understand what an e4 RCP app looks like.  But, there's no support for most of the RCP app lifecycle.
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[13:44:50] <paulweb515> erdal: i.e. you can't plug in your application and many advisors (Wb, WbW, ActionBar, etc) and get your system to come up
[13:44:52] <rcjsuen> I'm important? Puts a lot of pressure on me :(
[13:45:17] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: I've always considered you important ... I don't want any more of Boris' work!
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[13:45:41] <paulweb515> erdal: what I meant to say was "what rcjsuen said is important ... try to understand what an e4 app can give you"
[13:45:59] <erdal> ahh, that was targeted at me
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[13:47:11] <philk_> paulweb515: where would I have to set a breakpoint to find out why the toolbar is not made invisible?
[13:48:30] <paulweb515> philk_: unfortunately I'm not as familiar with the trim/status area part of menu contributions as I am with the rest (coolbar, main menu, pop menus, etc)
[13:48:40] <philk_> where can I find informations about a lazy loading treecontentprovider with databinding?
[13:48:58] <paulweb515> philk_: I'd have a look at TrimBarManager2 and see where that is used
[13:48:59] <philk_> paulweb515: the trim area is basically the status bar?
[13:49:22] <paulweb515> philk_: there are 5 trim areas, status is only one
[13:49:50] <philk_> paulweb515: ah I see... never knew of the others
[13:51:20] <philk_> paulweb515: I wonder what command1 and command2 are there for and where they would appear... lets try
[13:51:51] <ZeekDaGeek> rcjsuen, and not sure what you mean by version control, in general when I do web development I have 2 active programs my text editor and my ftp client. In addition to those programs I have 2 servers, my development server and the production server. I edit my files--test them locally, keep track of what I've changed and then upload them one by one. Seems like eclipse can help by keeping it all in one program and all.
[13:52:17] <ZeekDaGeek> rcjsuen, I just don't know what I'm doing. :3
[13:52:20] <rcjsuen> ZeekDaGeek: SVN is a "version control system".
[13:52:33] <philk_> paulweb515: also I do not see there the toolbar ID often referenced in the trim area sample code
[13:52:41] <rcjsuen> An alternate terminology would be Source Code Management (SCM).
[13:54:31] <philk_> paulweb515: it seems that TrimBarManager2 is deprecated. TrimContributionManager uses the menu URI that I knew of
[13:55:46] <ZeekDaGeek> rcjsuen, I'm quiet unfamiliar with SVN, I've used it for a couple things mostly as the downloader not the uploader. I got the impression it was more of an active thing -- I upload changes then it'd have to be downloaded at the other end unless I can just push it all through so it'll automatically send the changes to the webserver.
[13:57:38] <paulweb515> philk_: Oh, that might be it then (I don't go into that code, I defer to Eric :-)
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[13:58:19] <philk_> paulweb515: eric hanging around here?
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[13:58:47] <paulweb515> no
[13:58:50] <paulweb515> I don't see him
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[13:59:11] <philk_> paulweb515: whats his nick?
[14:00:19] <philk_> it seems that you cannot just add a command to the trim area. You always have to supply a toolbar and inside the toolbar put your commands
[14:02:20] <paulweb515> philk_: emoffatt
[14:02:46] <frog_> hi, i try to set up debugging of xamp, php . is it enough to use ZendDebugger.dll, that came with eclipse? when i try to test the debugger, it fails
[14:02:52] <erdal> does anyone know what will get into the final release of e4? XWT or TM?
[14:03:00] <codesmart> paulweb515: Hello, someone familiar with propertytesters? In the doc there stands, that each time it's invoked, it could be a new instance. But I registered my one as a listener for changes in the model to update the menuitems. Actually it works, because it's each time the same instance of my propertytester. But otherwise, how do I remove the listener, without programming another class which stores my registrered instances.
[14:03:14] <paulweb515> erdal: no decision has been made w.r.t. that
[14:03:15] <frog_> i have also allowed in php.ini
[14:03:16] <rcjsuen> erdal: No consensus has been made amongst the different candidates.
[14:03:42] <paulweb515> erdal: they can both live on in e4, the question is what would get released with Eclipse 4.0 (it might be neither)
[14:04:02] <erdal> ok
[14:04:16] <paulweb515> erdal: they would have to be good eclipse citizens and be used by the platform itself
[14:04:58] <erdal> i see
[14:04:59] <paulweb515> codesmart: because PTs are contributions they are proxied until they are needed ... and then when they are called the first time, the proxy instantiates the PT
[14:05:04] <rcjsuen> erdal: What Paul means by that is that in an SDK download, you should have everything you need to create the SDK. If the SDK itself does _not_ have any components written in XAML or the TM model, then it's arguably "out of scope".
[14:05:59] <erdal> ok
[14:07:00] <ZeekDaGeek> D: I'm feeling dumb trying to figure this stuff out. I can't even figure out how to install the WebDav plugin... I do exactly what it says and it throws out errors that don't make sence.
[14:07:12] <philk_> paulweb515: filed a ~bug 297193
[14:07:18] <rcjsuen> ZeekDaGeek: I don't think the webdav plug-in is maintained anymore, that might be a problem in and of itself.
[14:08:04] <ZeekDaGeek> rcjsuen, So trying to figure out SVN is my only solution?
[14:08:19] <paulweb515> ~297193
[14:08:23] <Arbalest> Bug 297193 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=297193 - Platform / UI / 3.6 - PC / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: Platform-UI-Inbox - [Trim Area] Toolbar does not disappear when all its items are disabled and should only be visibleWhen enabled
[14:08:26] <rcjsuen> there are other ftp solutions like ~TM and I think Aptana has something
[14:08:26] <Arbalest> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
[14:09:08] <paulweb515> codesmart: but it's up to the Proxy to decide if it should dispose the property tester and re-create it, or just cache it until the next call
[14:09:22] <paulweb515> codesmart: that's why you cannot depend on it always being the same instance of your property tester.
[14:14:30] <erdal> does providing eclipse forms in e4 makes sense? css could mimic eclipse forms...
[14:15:37] <paulweb515> erdal: it wasn't clear to me what they wanted to do about that ... SWT+CSS working correctly would allow you to lay out forms and style them, but there might be more to forms that is needed
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[14:16:16] <rcjsuen> erdal: a few months ago i implemented styling for forms but haven't worked on it since
[14:16:25] <rcjsuen> no one took a bite so i let it rot
[14:16:34] <rcjsuen> it's possible i even deleted the code from my notebook at home :o
[14:16:47] <erdal> hmm
[14:17:01] <rcjsuen> i think css can achieve the gradients and all that
[14:17:07] <erdal> yes
[14:17:07] <rcjsuen> but you still need to _implement_ the controls
[14:17:13] <rcjsuen> like Section/ExpandableComposite
[14:17:26] <rcjsuen> i don't think css is going to draw that expand icon ;)
[14:17:27] <erdal> there would be no need for Formtoolkit, imho
[14:17:30] <rcjsuen> someone would still have to subclass Composite/Canvas and provide a counterpart
[14:17:47] <erdal> Sections are regular widgets
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[14:19:22] <rcjsuen> erdal: yes, but i mean being able to set a description, having the "header" bolded
[14:19:40] <erdal> but that should be possible through css
[14:19:44] <rcjsuen> actually i guess  bolding is css
[14:19:49] <rcjsuen> but having a "descsription area"
[14:20:30] <rcjsuen> and the expandable behaviour
[14:20:54] <erdal> this is all provided by the form controls
[14:21:14] <ZeekDaGeek> ~Aptana
[14:21:28] <ZeekDaGeek> Hmm
[14:21:43] <rcjsuen> erdal: Right, I mean you'd still have to declare a dep on it.
[14:22:04] <erdal> yes
[14:22:16] <rcjsuen> but by default they don't leverage css
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[14:22:28] <rcjsuen> so someone would have to put cycles to change it
[14:22:34] <rcjsuen> or someone would have to spin an e4 forms or whatever
[14:22:41] <codesmart> paulweb:sorry was at the phone. so when my real one is instantaited, it gets the changes from my model and it forces a reevaluation via requestEvaluation and it seems to work
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[14:23:33] <erdal> so, i guess, there are no big changes planned for eclipse forms?
[14:24:11] <ZeekDaGeek> Holy crap apparently ftp support is a closely gaurded secret that they don't want anyone to easily get to. >.>
[14:24:36] <ZeekDaGeek> Starting to get a little fustrated.
[14:24:57] <rcjsuen> well i don't know what's going on with the UA team myself, or what their e4 plans are
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[14:28:14] <ZeekDaGeek> I install TM and it talks about FTP on the site and everything then you get into it and it seems like all it has is SSH
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[14:28:30] <ZeekDaGeek> and I don't have the SSH info I just have the FTP info.
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[14:29:11] <ZeekDaGeek> And I'm having no luck finding any Aptana FTP plugin
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[14:29:28] <stevex-w> I've created an editor for a specific filename .. I set the filename in my editor extension and in my contentTypes extension, and I can right-click the file and open it in my editor, but my editor isn't the default .. any idea what I should be looking at?
[14:29:41] <rcjsuen> it seems to have ftp, tho i don't know how old this image is http://www.madirish.net/assets/images/eclipse_ssh_only.jpg
[14:32:26] <ZeekDaGeek> rcjsuen, Yeah I found a screenshot similar to that, but I get to the area where it should list FTP Only and it only show Linux, Local, SSH Only, Unix and Windows.
[14:32:45] <rcjsuen> Was there any options when you installed it?
[14:32:48] <rcjsuen> maybe ftp is "opt-in"
[14:32:54] <rcjsuen> and you had to check a checkbox or something during the installation process
[14:34:24] <nitind> stevex-w: Double-check the available attributes on the editor configuration element.  Which editor is showing up as the default when you create a new one of your files?
[14:35:52] <ZeekDaGeek> rcjsuen,  There is no installation process its extracting the zip to the eclipse directory.
[14:36:02] <rcjsuen> o, i thot you used the provisioning system
[14:36:03] <rcjsuen> guess not
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[14:36:45] <ZeekDaGeek> If it'll get me the FTP options, tell me how :D
[14:38:11] <ZeekDaGeek> rcjsuen, I just went with the Latest release on the homepage you linked me to.
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[14:47:15] <bushwakko> hey, the jpa/eclipselink things doesn't ever return exceptions. if I do transaction.commit() there is no way of knowing if it worked in the code? it's just a void which doesn't cast exceptions...
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[14:49:17] <stevex-w> nitind - my file is foo.xml - when I launch Eclipse my icon actually shows up on the file for a half second, and then the xml icon replaces it
[14:49:23] <stevex-w> I double-click and I get the xml editor
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[14:51:49] <erdal> bushwakko: RollbackException - if the commit fails.
[14:52:14] <erdal> maybe, that is a runtime exception
[14:53:21] <bushwakko> doesn't seem to be throwing it.. what does that imply?
[14:55:48] <erdal> you should catch( RollbackException re )
[14:57:00] <rcjsuen> ZeekDaGeek: I just tried it on a 3.5.1 installation and it seems to show up here.
[14:57:46] <ZeekDaGeek> rcjsuen, Give me one second and I'll tell you exactly what I'm doing and its not showing up.
[14:57:56] <rcjsuen> to be clear
[14:58:00] <rcjsuen> i installed thru the provisioning system
[14:58:02] <rcjsuen> instead of unzipping
[14:58:16] <ZeekDaGeek> I don't know how to do that O.o
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[15:01:10] <rcjsuen> See the 'Help' menu.
[15:01:23] <ZeekDaGeek> rcjsuen, If I go File -> New -> Other -> Remote Server Explorer -> Connection
[15:01:25] <rcjsuen> tho since you alrdy unzipped i don't know what kind of conflicts that might cause
[15:01:37] <ZeekDaGeek> It only shows the list I mentioned.
[15:01:53] <ZeekDaGeek> rcjsuen, I can just revert to a previous install. :3
[15:03:13] <rcjsuen> well, feel free to revert to the beginning if you wish
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[15:09:35] <ZeekDaGeek> Okay and eclipse supposed to be able to act as a development server? o.o
[15:10:51] <rcjsuen> Development "server"?
[15:11:10] <rcjsuen> the sky's the limit really, there are a wide variety of plug-ins, free and commercial
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[15:12:26] <ZeekDaGeek> Hmm it's done installing now and its still not showing FTP.
[15:13:04] <ZeekDaGeek> Help -> Install new software -> Search: Target Management -> Ticked the only thing there was and installed.
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[15:13:29] <ZeekDaGeek> And restarted.
[15:13:35] <rcjsuen> You mean Target Management terminal?
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[15:14:33] <rcjsuen> You should get 'Remote System Explorer End-User Runtime'.
[15:15:56] <ZeekDaGeek> Okay installing that now./
[15:18:02] <ZeekDaGeek> There we go!
[15:19:03] <ZeekDaGeek> Thank you.
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[15:20:55] <ZeekDaGeek> Well thats interesting. It let's me type my password once, it was wrong and now it saved it.
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[15:24:54] <stevex-w> If two editors both register for the same extension and have a priority of high .. how does Eclipse decide which is the default?
[15:25:13] <stevex-w> IMHO mine should be the default because my contentType is registered for a filename, not an extension, but the XML one is taking precedence
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[15:26:59] <rcjsuen> stevex-w: That sounds right to me if you register on an entire full name.
[15:27:07] <rcjsuen> Perhaps you need to also use a content type matcher or whatever those things are called.
[15:27:21] <rcjsuen> for example plugin.xml opens the pde editor not the wst sse xml editor
[15:28:05] <stevex-w> yeah I don't have an IEditorMatchingStrategy and the pde editor does ..
[15:28:52] <anli_> rcjsuen: have you been into non working buttons in ecilpse as well?
[15:29:04] <rcjsuen> anli_: You mean the problem we talked about yesterday?
[15:29:09] <anli_> yes
[15:29:18] <anli_> did you tell me more that I did not read? :)
[15:29:38] <stevex-w> matching strategy didn't work
[15:29:38] <rcjsuen> anli_: Well, everything you need to know is on the FAQ as it links to the relevant bugs.
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[15:29:50] <anli_> so non working buttons can be a relevant bug? :)
[15:29:55] <anli_> Is it a bug in ecilpse?
[15:30:00] <NoobFukaure> With plugin metadata like name, provider, etc
[15:30:01] <anli_> Or in swing or in ubuntu
[15:30:11] <anli_> Or in my mouse
[15:30:16] <anli_> :)
[15:30:24] <NoobFukaure> what is the system the platform plugins use to fill that in? they have names like %fragmentName
[15:30:25] <rcjsuen> anli_: o.O Did you not go through the bug?
[15:30:43] <NoobFukaure> which I assume are pulled from a config file of some kind
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[15:31:03] <anli_> rcjsuen: Go through?
[15:31:08] <NoobFukaure> is there a name for what it does? our plugins are all manually named in the bundle manifest, which appears to be different?
[15:31:15] <anli_> rcjsuen: Did you post a link to me with some info?
[15:31:16] <NoobFukaure> is it for i18n purposes or something?
[15:31:30] <rcjsuen> anli_: yesterday i suggested you look at the FAQ in the channel topic to find the question + answer to your problem
[15:31:34] <rcjsuen> Did you not find it?
[15:31:42] <anli_> ah, ok
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[15:31:48] <anli_> Sorry
[15:31:54] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: Yes the %pluginName is for localization
[15:31:55] <anli_> Did not see that you were writing that
[15:32:00] <anli_> I take it its an eclipse bug
[15:36:17] <NoobFukaure> rcjsuen: thanks
[15:36:33] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: in the manifest.mf there's a Bundle-Localization: blah
[15:36:39] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: then in your project root you have blah.properties
[15:36:40] <rcjsuen> and map the two
[15:37:04] <NoobFukaure> oh ok, I was just wondering if there was a some type of name I could look for in the docs
[15:37:18] <NoobFukaure> thanks, I'll take a harder look at the system bundles
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[15:40:12] <djork> I am having trouble with insanely slow and memory-intensive builds when working on an Android app.
[15:40:22] <djork> Eclipse basically OOMs
[15:40:49] <djork> sometimes with an OOM exception, otherwise just becoming completely unusable
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[15:46:46] <rcjsuen> djork: Did you try in the #android channel or the mailing lists? Do you have problems with regular Java development?
[15:46:58] <djork> I think it's just this one project.
[15:47:08] <djork> #android-dev is no help
[15:48:57] <alfatau> hello, i'm trying to learn how to develop GUIs using eclipse RCP. I started a new Plugin Project and added 2 Extensions: a Perspective and a View. When i run the project (using only required plugins) i get the error message: java.lang.RuntimeException: Application "org.eclipse.ui.ide.workbench" could not be found in the registry. what can i do?
[15:50:47] <NoobFukaure> sounds like you might not have all the required plugins in your run config?
[15:50:50] <rcjsuen> djork: I think there's a diff between #android and #android-dev.
[15:50:50] <alfatau> thank you for your attention
[15:53:51] <alfatau> NoobFukaure: thank you for response. I deselected all plugin and then choosed only my own from workspace. At the end i also choosed "Add required plugins" and i got 54 of 828 plugins selected. How could i investigate which plugin i'm missing? thanks in advance
[15:54:19] <NoobFukaure> well you could use the "add required plugins" button to have the IDE sort that out for you
[15:54:33] <philk_> can a TreeViewer have columns too?
[15:54:38] <NoobFukaure> most eclipse plugins have some type of dependency requirements
[15:54:47] <philk_> or is there something like a tabletreeviewer?
[15:55:36] <philk_> I would like to display some columns in my treeviewer
[15:56:35] <alfatau> NoobFukaure: well, as I said before, it's exactly what I did. May I forgot some configuration step?
[15:56:42] <rcjsuen> philk_: sure, the SWT Tree supports columns
[15:56:51] <rcjsuen> philk_: lookat the 'Problems' view ;)
[15:57:05] <philk_> rcjsuen: thanks :)
[15:57:26] <rcjsuen> i think it's TreeViewerColumn
[15:57:28] <rcjsuen> or TCV
[15:57:29] <rcjsuen> well, one of those two
[15:57:33] <NoobFukaure> alfatau: not sure, sounds like dependency issue still ;)
[15:58:06] <philk_> paulweb515: is there a default handler for the file.delete command?
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[16:00:51] <alfatau> NoobFukaure: well, from Dependencies tab of plugin.xml, i have 3 plugins: org.eclipse.ui, org.eclipse.core.runtime,org.apache.commons.logging. in your experience can this situation be associated to some classic missing dependency issue? thanks a lot.
[16:01:12] <philk_> njbartlett: thanks for the Extensions2Services! Its genius!
[16:01:47] <philk_> rcjsuen: But i need to supply a label provider for each column? I cannot just provide a ITreeLabelProvider to the viewer that will take care of everything?
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[16:02:12] <NoobFukaure> alfatau: if your plugin.xml was wrong, your plugin probably won't build without errors
[16:02:31] <NoobFukaure> I'm talking about your run config, which is different from the plugin.xml configuration
[16:02:37] <rcjsuen> philk_: Personally I like the individual way
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[16:02:51] <philk_> rcjsuen: sure, then I can also use Styled Text :)
[16:02:52] <rcjsuen> if you wanna use an ITableLabelProvider, that's fien too
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[16:05:23] <philk_> rcjsuen: is there a way to register icons for specific file extensions in Eclipse? Is there already a framework (extension) in place I could use?
[16:05:53] <philk_> like "give me the icon for file test.wav" and i could register an icon for ".wav" files somewhere?
[16:06:04] <rcjsuen> Don't think so, you can get a system icon anyway.
[16:06:13] <rcjsuen>  idunno about getting a wb-based setting
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[16:08:05] <alfatau> NoobFukaure: ok. in run configuration i created a new configuration for "Eclipse application". Then in plugin tab i choosed from the combo: "plugin selected below only". I deselected all and then selected in the workspace node only my plugin. Then i clicked on the "Add required plugins" button and i got 54 plugin selected. I run application and i got again the same error: Application "org.eclipse.ui.ide.workbench" could not be found in
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[16:08:36] <rcjsuen> try adding *sdk* *workbench* bundles by hand
[16:08:38] <rcjsuen> then add required
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[16:09:03] <NoobFukaure> why not use "launch with all workspace and enabled target plug-ins"
[16:09:16] <NoobFukaure> Do you have some plugins you're trying to exclude during runtime?
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[16:09:52] <nitind> stevex-w: Sounds like the content type isn't actually being detected properly.
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[16:12:11] <alfatau> NoobFukaure: well, using that setting seems to load all plugins in my workbench, even if they haven't dependencies between them, while i want to load only one of the plugins i have in the workspace.
[16:12:14] <codesmart> alfatau: I think your missing org.eclipse.ui.ide.application and dependencies. I have this problem also regulary
[16:12:32] <rcjsuen> codesmart: ah that's the one i was thinking of
[16:12:45] <philk_> rcjsuen: how do I apply a bold font to one of my StyledString element?
[16:13:05] <paulweb515> philk_: I don't believe so ... file.delete only makes sense if the part knows what it is trying to delete
[16:13:22] <rcjsuen> philk_: nvr used StyledString before, don't you set a StyleRange for it?
[16:13:33] <alfatau> codesmart, rcjsuen: i'm trying your proposals now, thank you
[16:13:41] <philk_> rcjsuen: I do, I just wonder if there is a default JFace bold font
[16:13:50] <rcjsuen> from JFR you can get a bold font
[16:13:54] <rcjsuen> and it'll use the Jface fontreg
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[16:14:56] <philk_> paulweb515: I have created myself a Deletable interface that just has a delete(IProgressMonitor) method. Using an adapter factory every object can make itself deletable and my Handler picks those adapters up and calles their delete method. I thought such thing would be a good one to have in the default Eclipse Distro
[16:15:18] <philk_> rcjsuen: I just checked JFR but did not find the getter for the bold font
[16:15:48] <rcjsuen> sorry, i was living a lie
[16:16:00] <philk_> rcjsuen: ah maybe: JFaceResources.getFontRegistry().getBold(JFaceResources.DEFAULT_FONT);
[16:16:04] <rcjsuen> yes, that way
[16:17:31] <alfatau> codesmart, rcjsuen: well, adding org.eclipse.ui.ide.application dependency it seems working. thank you very much.
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[16:18:39] <stevex-w> nitind: the editor does show up on the list of editors I can open if I right-click the file, it just not the default editor
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[16:19:14] <nitind> stevex-w: What content type does it say your file is?
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[16:20:06] <stevex-w> nitind: well right now, strangely enough, it's working .. I think it depends on what order the plugins get loaded in?  is that possible?
[16:20:32] <stevex-w> because I didn't change anything that should have fixed it
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[16:21:30] <codesmart> paulweb:sorry was at the phone. so when my real one is instantaited, it gets the changes from my model and it forces a reevaluation via requestEvaluation and it seems to work
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[16:23:21] <paulweb515> codesmart: very interesting ... are you asking a question?  I explained the what and why (did you see that)?
[16:23:27] <notk0> hello, I would like to configure eclipse that when I press the Run button It will run this program if it contains a Main else the last runned program
[16:23:34] <notk0> instead of running the last one all the time
[16:23:59] <paulweb515> notk0: you usually get that for free, it's under Preference>Run/Debug if you need to change it
[16:24:36] <notk0> paulweb515 were is Preference?
[16:24:45] <paulweb515> notk0: Window>Preferences
[16:24:46] <notk0> windows->Preferencs?
[16:24:48] <notk0> oh ok
[16:24:51] <notk0> thank you
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[16:26:03] <codesmart> paulweb151: wasn't a question. thats the way I realized it. And if I understood you right, when the proxy is "finished" and my tester instantiated, it works this way.
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[16:26:56] <philk_> hmmmm using StyleCellLabelProvider slows down the tree drawing
[16:27:11] <nitind> stevex-w: No, I meant actually look at what it says in the file's Property dialog.
[16:27:41] <paulweb515> codesmart: no, I said that the proxy can decide at any time to dispose your property tester and then re-create it later (thus killing your instance and providing a new one)
[16:27:52] <stevex-w> nitind: now that it's working, the file type is mine
[16:30:47] <codesmart> paulweb515: ok, then I add my new tester again as a listener. But I face the problem to deregister the old listeners. So it seems not a good way to add a tester as a listener of the model. But how to update my menu items?
[16:30:48] <nitind> peculiar.
[16:31:55] <paulweb515> codesmart: something appropriate to your model can register a listener and request a re-evaluation through the IEvaluationService ... really, that's not the property testers job (it's a passive element)
[16:32:25] <notk0> paulweb515 I am having difficulties finding the required options to edit
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[16:33:07] <paulweb515> notk0: Preferences>Run/Debug>Launching
[16:33:16] <paulweb515> notk0: it's an option at the bottom of that preference page
[16:33:35] <philk_> rcjsuen: thanks! Treecolumnviewer works great!
[16:33:41] <rcjsuen> okilydokily
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[16:33:58] <philk_> rcjsuen: http://screencast.com/t/NzNmODI1M2
[16:34:27] <Echidna> for some reason the createPartControl() method is not called for a view in linux
[16:34:35] <Echidna> yea the view itself displays fine o_O
[16:35:00] <rcjsuen> philk_: pretty laggy, aren't you using a DTCM?
[16:35:08] <philk_> rcjsuen: I just display all folders on the mobile device bold
[16:35:14] <philk_> rcjsuen: DTCM?
[16:35:24] <paulweb515> Echidna: createPartControl(*) will be called the first time the view is instantiated (no cPC(*), no views :-)
[16:35:56] <philk_> rcjsuen: its just that there are a lot of files in /Windows on the Mobile Device, thats why it takes so long to load
[16:36:07] <rcjsuen> philk_: DeferredTreeContentManager
[16:36:08] <codesmart> paulweb515: I see. Now my tester is in my ui plugin. If I put it in the model plugin that would be fine. But otherwise the model will have a dependency to the ui. Whats the best practice there?
[16:36:31] <philk_> rcjsuen: I found it, lets see how I can put it in place
[16:37:01] <paulweb515> codesmart: you definitely don't want your model to depend on your UI, you're right about that
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[16:37:54] <deSilva> how do I find all references to a variable?
[16:38:10] <notk0> this may seem silly but in what version was this feature introduced?
[16:38:51] <rcjsuen> deSilva: Ctrl+Shift+G?
[16:39:24] <codesmart> paulweb515: Ok I will add a new class in my ui plugin to do force the reevaluation of the property.
[16:39:32] <philk_> rcjsuen: how do I use it? Do I just have to implement IDWA on my treeviewer input models?
[16:39:35] <charley> deSilva: and for additional options you can right click a variable --> References --> Choose where to look
[16:39:40] <rcjsuen> philk_: yeah you do
[16:39:57] <Echidna> paulweb515: i have a logger.debug() call in cPC(), if i make that call the first line in cPC, there's no output
[16:39:57] <rcjsuen> philk_: the fetching is done in a job
[16:39:58] <codesmart> paulweb515: my activator of the ui plugin would be fine or? :-)
[16:40:02] <rcjsuen> so you can think of it...as a job ;p
[16:40:07] <Echidna> if i move it further down, it is displayed
[16:40:35] <Echidna> the debug output is a static string
[16:40:54] <paulweb515> Echidna: if you can see controls, that method was called (there's no way around it, it's an invariant)
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[16:44:56] <gustav3d> how do i workaround the " has been tampered!" problem i get from trying to install stuff ? , on 3.5 3.6 , windows opensolaris
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[16:46:26] <rcjsuen> sounds vaguely familiar
[16:46:35] <rcjsuen> ~290648
[16:46:37] <Arbalest> Bug 290648 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=290648 - WTP Releng / releng / 3.1 - PC / Linux - REOPENED / normal / - Assignee: webtools.releng-inbox - Eclipse 3.5.1 cannot install web development tools
[16:46:42] <rcjsuen> ~295700
[16:46:43] <Arbalest> Bug 295700 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=295700 - JDT / APT / 3.6 - PC / Windows NT - CLOSED / INVALID / major / - Assignee: jdt-apt-inbox - Unable to install through Eclipse
[16:46:43] <notk0> everytime I press run it runs the last one from history or asks me t choose what to run...
[16:47:20] <philk_> rcjsuen: I guess its best not to extend WorbenchAdapter but to really adapt to it?
[16:47:50] <rcjsuen> i think i've always implemented IDWA by hand.
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[16:49:39] <ccmonster> I cannot get Eclipse to properly handle php. I have installed the DLTK and PHP update sites as stated in the wiki. I have then added PDT 2.2. However, no luck.
[16:49:44] <ccmonster> Any help would be appreciated.
[16:51:30] <gustav3d> thanks arbalest. seems only way to get around the problem is to download a full version of eclipse, and hope it has all stuff needed ?.
[16:52:05] <rcjsuen> gustav3d: I've not really heard too many complaints about this problem. It could be related to the mirror that you're hitting I suppose.
[16:52:31] <gustav3d> can i override the mirror ?
[16:52:50] <rcjsuen> I'm not familiar with the incantation to do so.
[16:53:24] <nano-> How do I debug a NoClassDefFound problem with equinox? All unittests run, the classes are properly exported, no errors reported by eclipse, but when I launch the application, the class is not found.
[16:53:39] <philk_> rcjsuen: do I still need to implement getChildren of IWA?
[16:54:01] <nano-> I've wasted about 8 hours on this already today, and nowhere closer to a solution :/
[16:54:40] <paulweb515> nano-: you mean when you launch the deployed application, or when you launch the app within eclipse?
[16:54:48] <nano-> Yeah. From the run button.
[16:55:55] <nano-> I have a bundle (A) with some code, that is used by another bundle (B) with some code, and that bundle is used by a osgi component. When the component starts, B can't find A according to the traceback.
[16:56:04] <philk_> rcjsuen: So in instantiated the DTCM but it does not seem to work. My IDWA is not called
[16:56:16] <ccmonster> is anyone able to help?
[16:56:31] <rcjsuen> you implement it by
[16:56:36] <rcjsuen> manager.fetchChildren or whatever i think
[16:56:44] <rcjsuen> er i mean getChildren
[16:56:51] <nano-> B imports the packages from A that it uses, and same goes for the component. And the junit4 tests of the component using code from A and B works.
[16:56:54] <rcjsuen> yeah that code is somewhat confusing
[16:57:08] <nano-> So it's something in equinox that's strange.
[16:57:27] <philk_> rcjsuen: or do I need to extend DTCM and implement ITreeContentProvider and then set this thing for the TV?
[16:57:39] <rcjsuen> no you shouldn't need to subclass DTCM directly
[16:58:30] <rcjsuen> check DTCM's getAdapter method, if null is returrned you have problems i think
[17:00:53] <nano-> So the question remains, where do I go from seeing a "Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ...."  to actually finding something that I can work with.
[17:01:04] <nano-> ...from the equinox osgi logs.
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[17:01:39] <nano-> paulweb515: out of ideas?
[17:03:22] <paulweb515> nano-: if you are running from eclipse, you can use the tracing tab and set tracing for org.eclipse.osgi (or org.osgi, I'm not sure which one)
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[17:05:15] <philk_> rcjsuen: ok I subclassed DTCM and set it as the content provider for my try... it works... however even for small child items it always now creates the dummy element and actually slows down the update of the tree. Is there some threshold I can set to make it less often update?
[17:05:50] <philk_> rcjsuen: I guess in the IElementCollector interface? I currently add each item but should use the bulk update method?
[17:05:55] <nano-> hmm.. just need to find the tracing tab then.
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[17:09:07] <nano-> paulweb515: tptp tracing and profiling tools project?
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[17:09:50] <nano-> paulweb515: aha under run configuration, found it.
[17:10:19] <philk_> rcjsuen: how can I change the progress text that is display? And can I change the label of the "Pending..." item or not show it at all?
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[17:13:30] <nano-> paulweb515: where will the tracing be represented?
[17:13:42] <nano-> paulweb515: i don't see anything new in console log at least.
[17:14:19] <coachz> Does eclipse support manual code folding like with   // {{{   my code here    // }}}
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[17:14:33] <nano-> paulweb515: ah.. there we go, more log to look at now. thanks, and hopefully it helps.
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[17:19:13] <coachz> is this the best place for eclipse support or is there a more active chat somewhere else ?
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[17:21:29] <gustav3d> this is as good as it gets when its free support in a chat.
[17:21:49] <coachz> ok, gustav3d ,  do you know if eclipse supports manual code folding like with   // {{{   my code here    // }}}
[17:22:26] <ccmonster> any clue why i cant get php files to edit in eclipse? i have installed pdt 2.2
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[17:23:42] <gustav3d> coachz: i dont, sorry.
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[17:24:34] <coachz> thanks anyways gustav3d,  i have an 86 year old gustav that works with me :-)  http://www.gusisaac.com
[17:24:48] <gustav3d> hehe
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[17:27:02] <rcjsuen> philk_: It will always create the dummy node afaik tho if it's fast then i'd expect it to be pretty quick
[17:27:12] <rcjsuen> i think the pending label is overridable tho i've never tried
[17:27:25] <philk_> rcjsuen: yes I have overwritten the pending label
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[17:27:50] <philk_> rcjsuen: now I would like it just appear after a reasonable time and not instantly... like 200ms or so :)
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[17:28:01] <rcjsuen> o i see what you mean
[17:28:08] <philk_> rcjsuen: I will play around with it, if I can skip it all together, or just filter it out
[17:28:19] <nano-> paulweb515: With the more detailed debug information I could nail down the problem. Thanks a lot!
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[17:32:41] <philk_> rcjsuen: currently the expanding of the tree is "fluent". But items are poured in too quickly, so the refresh is not actually smooth
[17:32:54] <philk_> rcjsuen: I guess I just have to bulk-update the items
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[17:40:33] <coachz> i have my app in /var/www/html/myapp     is that where i make the workspace ?
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[17:40:55] <xant> hey
[17:41:04] <xant> anyone of you use subclipse?
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[17:41:48] <charley> xant: Occasionally, what's up?
[17:42:07] <xant> I'm stuck with an odd problem
[17:42:17] <xant> I'm trying to merge two directories
[17:43:05] <xant> from /unstable to /myworkingcopy
[17:43:20] <xant> There some new subdirectories in /unstable, that are not present in /myworkingcopy
[17:43:58] <xant> The new subdirectories are not created in /myworkingcopy after the merge
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[17:44:28] <coachz> if i have my project in /var/www/html/myapp1  does a workspace correspond to the app and i would make a workspace   ~/eclipse_workspaces/myapp1   ?
[17:44:28] <xant> I'm using eclipse 3.5.1 + subclipse 1.6.5 + svnkit
[17:47:19] <charley> xant: I've never attempted a merge on subclipse... As a general inquiry, are the subdirectories in /unstable local/unsaved modifications?
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[17:48:31] <xant> They are commited to and present in the repository
[17:48:44] <philk_> rcjsuen: hiding the pending element with a filter will break the tree updating :/
[17:49:00] <xant> charley, how do you work with subversion without merging?
[17:49:29] <xant> The problem is driving me nuts
[17:50:00] <charley> xant: I just commit, update and checkout, mostly :)
[17:50:20] <xant> charley, no collaborators :-)?
[17:50:33] <charley> xant: the other guy does the same ;)
[17:50:53] <charley> tbh I kind of prefer git
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[17:52:53] <xant> charley, <flame>even cvs is more stable and reliable than subversion</flame>
[17:53:11] <charley> lol :)
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[17:53:48] <charley> xant: but yeah, I don't know enough about merging with subclipse to help you out here :( sorry
[17:54:24] <xant> charley, thanks anyway
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[17:54:48] <xant> I wonder what others are doing... Merging their code?
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[17:57:12] <philk_> how would I sort in a Viewer first for one criterium and then another?
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[18:05:39] <l0gin> hi all
[18:05:46] <l0gin> Is there any chan dedicated to emf/ecore ?
[18:05:47] <l0gin> :)
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[18:13:14] <tokam1> Hi how can i declare a packet of my plugin as api?
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[18:18:22] <tokam1> I would like to use one class of my 1st plugin as api for its extensions
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[18:18:44] <coachz> anyone here know how to do custom code folding ?
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[18:28:47] <l0gin> coachz : afaik, xtext and emftext helps you doing such things (but might be too "complex" for your case)
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[18:36:22] <bthornton> I'm trying to commit some work to my subversion repo. The files that should be committed are correctly listed, but when I try to commit, I get "An error occured while visiting resource [some path]"  "Resource [some path] does not exist". Any ideas?
[18:36:42] <bthornton> Incidentally, the path it lists is relative to root--which it should not be.
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[18:38:29] <bthornton> (I'm using the subclipse plugin in Eclipse 3.5.1, Linux )
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[18:40:04] <bthornton> Actually, let's generalize this issue, since I don't think it has anything to do with subversion...
[18:41:17] <bthornton> When I look at the properties on any file that I can edit, I notice that the Path field is not right (it's /somedir instead of /var/www/somedir ).  Yet the Location field is correct. Is this normal?
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[18:44:55] <nitind> bthornton: Path usually means relative to the workspace root, which may have no relation to its physical Location.
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[18:46:17] <bthornton> nitind: Ah, that's correct then. I wonder why the resources can't be found when I try to do a commit...
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[18:51:06] <nitind> bthornton: Try F5/refresh on the project or workspace.  Is it physically still there?
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[18:51:27] <bthornton> nitind: done it, and yes it's physically there. I'm actually just rebuilding my workspace right now...
[18:52:06] <bthornton> FWIW, my workspace is in $HOME/workspace but the actual files are in /var/www/devel (i.e. outside of my workspace)
[18:52:17] <bthornton> I don't know if Eclipse was built to handle files outside of its workspace
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[18:55:18] <coachz> can i manually fold code blocks in eclipse or am i screwed ?
[18:55:39] <nitind> bthornton: It is, but some plug-ins weren't written with it in mind.
[18:55:49] <nitind> coachz: In which editor?
[18:55:50] <bthornton> ah
[18:56:04] <coachz> php,  i'm editing php and js files
[18:56:32] <coachz> and i desperately need to manually fold code
[18:56:47] <nitind> coachz: Check the Structured Text Editors preference page for a setting to turn it on.  It's slow in Galileo so wasn't on by default.
[18:57:23] <coachz> nitind,  what is that under ?
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[18:57:59] <nitind> coachz: General/Editors, but just start typing it into the box that says "type filter text" and you'll get there easier.
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[18:58:38] <coachz> i see it, enable folding is highlighted there
[18:59:40] <nitind> coachz: Then check for PHP-specific preferences.  I could have sworn it was implemented, assuming it's PDT that you're using.
[18:59:40] <coachz> so what do i do to manually fold a block.   I currently have blocks   // {{{  my code // }}}
[18:59:54] <coachz> i got the eclipse php version
[19:00:18] <coachz> code folding is turned on in both places
[19:00:29] <coachz> you understand i am trying to make custom fold areas
[19:00:59] <nitind> coachz: I didn't, but I don't that's supported.  There's a long bug open about supporting it, although it might specifically be for the Java editor.
[19:01:19] <coachz> crap, i can't find any linux editor i like :-(]
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[19:03:40] <bthornton> coachz: Netbeans does folds (in Java at least)
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[19:05:02] <nitind> bthornton: custom folds using comments in the source?
[19:05:49] <bthornton> not sure on that one; I know that when I create Swing applications with the GUI designer, it "hides" all of the auto-generated code in a fold
[19:05:59] <coachz> i'm doing php and js files and need custom folds
[19:06:30] <coachz> eclipse and netbeans both seem unable to do it.   i can get netbeans to do it for php files but not for js files,  agrhhh
[19:06:31] <bthornton> Netbeans does, however, support PHP and I'd be surprised if they "disabled" that feature for PHP
[19:06:41] <bthornton> hmm
[19:06:44] <coachz> Jedit works perfect but the stupid app changes ownership of every file i edit
[19:06:47] <bthornton> maybe they did ? :p
[19:07:02] <coachz> and jedit is dead
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[19:21:49] <R4p70r> I'm trying to use "Eclipse Shell" with Rhino to explore a java project but I can't access my classes from the shell. Using jrunscript from the command line works fine with the -classpath option. How can I fix this?
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[19:25:27] <nitind> I've got org.junit 4.0 in my plug-in's list of dependencies, but despite there being a org.junit.source_ bundle in the runtime, I can't see the source for the org.junit classes when I open them.  Both came in eclipse-SDK-I20091204-0800, so what gives?
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[19:27:38] <hheinrich> Hi, I'm having issues with eclipse on linux x86 using sun-java6-jdk - I cannot press the "Next ->" button using a mouse when creating new projects, I have to target it using tab and then press space, does anybody know why?
[19:28:38] <nitind> hheinrich: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Eclipse_buttons_in_dialogs_and_other_places_are_not_working_for_me_if_I_click_them_with_the_mouse._They_work_if_I_use_the_mnemonic_key_though.2C_what.27s_going_on.3F
[19:28:53] <hheinrich> nitind: thanks.
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[19:32:28] <bthornton> hheinrich: Guessing you're running Ubuntu/Karmic (9.10)?
[19:33:09] <hheinrich> bthornton: No, debian squeeze, but setting GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS seems to have worked perfectly
[19:33:14] <bthornton> ahh
[19:33:19] <bthornton> cool :)
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[19:34:20] <hheinrich> seems to be an issue with newer versions of GTK
[19:35:12] <bthornton> yeah, I just think it's a sin that distros would be released without having implemented a fix for that--it affects more than just Eclipse.
[19:35:18] <bthornton> but that's another discussion for another channel
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[19:45:39] <rcjsuen> philk__: Because it removes it and swaps it with the actual content I believe.
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[19:46:21] <rcjsuen> l0gin: #eclipse-modeling
[19:46:44] <rcjsuen> philk__: you'd have to remember column selections manually i guess
[19:47:22] <m0t3jl> Hi, I am having very strange difficulty starting the current eclipse on my Fedora 11 x86_64. I downloaded the archive from eclipse.org and when I ran the executable file, nothing was outputted to the console, nor was anything else displayed on my screen and the file just ended... Can I somehow turn verbose logging on or something to see what's happening? Thanks alot
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[19:51:13] <rcjsuen> m0t3jl: Can you run Java programs? How did you install Eclipse?
[19:51:16] <paulweb515> m0t3jl: try 'eclipse -consoleLog'
[19:51:33] <m0t3jl> rcjsuen, I am using NetBeans at the time ;)
[19:51:47] <m0t3jl> rcjsuen, so apparently I can run Java programs. ^^
[19:51:56] <m0t3jl> paulweb515, will do.
[19:52:37] <rcjsuen> And how did you install Eclipse?
[19:53:00] <m0t3jl> rcjsuen, just downloaded that .tar.gz archive and unpacked it using tar zfx
[19:53:21] <rcjsuen> I see, which tarball did you download? What is its name?
[19:53:36] <m0t3jl> paulweb515, finally, there was an exception ;) Where is the output send if I do not specify the -consoleLog option?
[19:54:02] <m0t3jl> rcjsuen, eclipse-php-galileo-SR1-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
[19:54:22] <rcjsuen> I think it may be in eclipse/configuration somewhere since a workspace has not been specified.
[19:54:41] <paulweb515> m0t3jl: ~logs
[19:54:41] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[19:55:23] <m0t3jl> That's really helpfull, since I am not able to start the application :D
[19:55:42] <m0t3jl> (i. e. the workspace does not even get created)
[19:56:16] <paulweb515> m0t3jl: that's an extremely rare thing
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[19:56:24] <m0t3jl> paulweb515, but it's okay now
[19:56:26] <paulweb515> m0t3jl: and that's why -consoleLog exists :-)
[19:57:00] <m0t3jl> paulweb515, hehe, thanks anyway.
[19:57:07] <m0t3jl> rcjsuen, thanks.
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[20:22:12] <philk__> njbartlett: got some minutes to talk about the CM? So I have this ManagedService as DS component with the component.name=test and I have created a configuration in your bundlemonitor for that PID "test". However, the service component (while instantiated) is not called with its update() method
[20:22:41] <philk__> rcjsuen: its funny, that there are zero examples out there how to use the DeferredTreeContentManager
[20:22:59] <rcjsuen> philk__: Every time I use it I need to get back in that mindset.
[20:23:02] <rcjsuen> And I stumble at the same corners
[20:23:13] <rcjsuen> I think it's a wonderful...er..."helper" implementation personally.
[20:23:40] <rcjsuen> One thing I think that would be cool was if it could say something like Pending... (54%)
[20:23:42] <philk__> rcjsuen: its is indeed! However... its poorly documented and not used inside Eclipse itself
[20:24:04] <rcjsuen> yeah only place i ever see it in my day-to-day usage is in the cvs browsing view
[20:24:06] <philk__> rcjsuen: you can do that yourself, just overwrite getPendingAdapter
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[20:24:25] <rcjsuen> philk__: yeah but then i nee dto tie it with the IPM manually
[20:25:13] <philk__> for me it would be enough if I could get the pending element invisible
[20:25:33] <philk__> and my items ordered like first folder and then files both in alphabetical order
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[20:28:06] <philk__> StyledContentProvider seriously slows down table rendering... especially when you resize the column headers.
[20:28:10] <philk__> rcjsuen: http://screencast.com/t/ZWY3NDQzYT
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[20:32:58] <philk__> how do I find out if the element to be labeled is currently selected?
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[21:17:19] <rcjsuen> I don't think there's a way, you'd have to ask the viewer for its selection I think.
[21:18:22] <rcjsuen> philk__: do you actually need a styled label tho? it seems you're just using bold/no bold
[21:19:22] <philk__> rcjsuen: I also want to colour hidden files
[21:19:36] <rcjsuen> well those can be provided by a colour / font provider
[21:19:39] <philk__> rcjsuen: but I guess I could do that with a normal IColorProvider
[21:19:44] <philk__> :)
[21:19:51] <rcjsuen> which would be identical to a TableItem's setForeground method
[21:20:00] <rcjsuen> using the styled provider uses owner draw i believe
[21:21:14] <philk__> rcjsuen: yeah... when I need to paint progress I would use owner draw again
[21:21:48] <joe2371> Hi. I'm trying to get the Android ADT plugin into Ganymede on Gentoo without much luck. I'm guessing this might relate to the fact that the Update Manager (P2) is not supported on Gentoo and I'm stuck with Classic. But Classic doesn't seem to be working. Anyone have better luck on Gentoo?
[21:22:12] <philk__> rcjsuen: so when using ViewColumn I have to set the label/color provider for each column?
[21:22:17] <rcjsuen> yeah
[21:22:25] <rcjsuen> i'm not sure if you can still use an ITLP
[21:22:28] <rcjsuen> I've never tried
[21:23:37] <rcjsuen> joe2371: I tried hte plug-in when it first came out but I wasn't using the eclipse-sdk ebuild.
[21:24:32] <joe2371> rcjsuen: oic. So you built eclipse the old-fashioned way and had better luck?
[21:24:50] <rcjsuen> joe2371: I downloaded an Eclipse tarball from eclipse.org. I didn't "build" it.
[21:25:16] <joe2371> ok, well binary then. Hmm. I'll look into that. Thanks.
[21:25:43] <rcjsuen> joe2371: You can also try asking in #android and/or #gentoo-java, those folks might know something.
[21:26:12] <joe2371> rcjsuen: Heheh. I've already asked in the former.  I'll try the latter too, though.
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[22:14:18] <StarkHalo> any tips on how to associate a file extension to open on eclipse under macosx?  the usual steps cause an error within eclipse saying it doesn't know how to open such file type
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[22:15:14] <stevex-w> so if I've got a TextEditor .. how do I get the current text?  Seems like a pretty obvious thing.
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[22:16:21] <rcjsuen> StarkHalo: What kind of app are you trying to associate?
[22:16:28] <rcjsuen> stevex-w: "Current" text?
[22:16:47] <rcjsuen> stevex-w: You mean what's in the text file?
[22:16:50] <stevex-w> the content of the document being edited
[22:16:50] <stevex-w> yes
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[22:17:24] <StarkHalo> I'm trying to associate all files with the .php file extension so they open with ZendStudio (eclipse-based IDE)
[22:17:54] <rcjsuen> stevex-w: you get the editor's IDocument, if posible, ~dev-faq
[22:17:54] <Arbalest> Writing Eclipse plug-ins / RCP apps and don't know where to turn? See these FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/RCP_FAQ / Or look at EclipseCon talks/tutorials - http://www.eclipsecon.org/
[22:18:12] <StarkHalo> right now when I double click on any .php file it launches the IDE, but then it says it cannot open the document
[22:18:13] <rcjsuen> StarkHalo: you mean you wanna double-click a file and then have eclipse launch and open that file in its editor?
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[22:18:26] <StarkHalo> exactly rcjsuen
[22:18:38] <rcjsuen> StarkHalo: that's not possible
[22:18:40] <nitind> stevex-w: Use IEditorPart#getEditorInput() to get the editor's current input and ask the result of ITextEditor#getDocumentProvider() for the matching IDocument.
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[22:18:46] <rcjsuen> there's a bug about it anyway
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[22:18:53] <StarkHalo> ouch! :(
[22:19:19] <StarkHalo> that extends to all files I suppose, .java .css .xml .sql etc.. ??
[22:19:53] <rcjsuen> StarkHalo: You can't select a file from your file explorer and have the Eclipse workbench open it.
[22:20:09] <rcjsuen> I think there's a third-party plug-in to do that but I don't know the details.
[22:20:23] <StarkHalo> geez.. that's just awful...
[22:20:34] <njbartlett> philk__: Ping
[22:20:44] <StarkHalo> I've been googling for the past couple of hours without luck, that's why I chose to log in
[22:22:25] <stevex-w> hey nitind - that was it, thanks!
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[22:29:44] <philk__> njbartlett: re
[22:30:14] <philk__> njbartlett: so how do I get configs for my component?
[22:30:24] <njbartlett> philk__: The activate method
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[22:30:38] <njbartlett> philk__: BTW are you "pke" on GitHub?
[22:30:45] <toulmean> ey guys, I want to inspect the classes loaded inside a bundle at runtime using the OSGi console.
[22:30:52] <philk__> njbartlett: I want to change the config during runtime
[22:31:02] <toulmean> my problem is rather puzzling. I run a plugin by self hosting, using a headless environment, and it tells me it cannot activate the plugin
[22:31:03] <philk__> njbartlett: and yes, I am pke and filed that issue
[22:31:07] <toulmean> ClassNotFoundException on the activator
[22:31:32] <toulmean> of course my activator is there, it's built allright. I just can't figure out how the classpath of the plugin is decided at runtime.
[22:31:32] <njbartlett> philk__: Oh you can also implement a "modified" method. That's new in DS 1.1
[22:31:55] <toulmean> I tried deleting build.properties, arranging elements in it, saying three times pretty please to my computer
[22:32:07] <toulmean> nothing worked so far and I need to know what is actually loaded in that bundle.
[22:32:11] <njbartlett> philk__: Thanks for the issue. Had already found and fixed it, put hadn't pushed back to GitHub yet
[22:32:16] <njbartlett> philk__: Will push now...
[22:32:19] <nitind> toulmean: What does your manifest say the classpath is?
[22:32:45] <toulmean> nitind: Bundle-Classpath: .
[22:32:56] <toulmean> nitind: but I removed that instruction and it still happens.
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[22:33:03] <njbartlett> philk__: Done
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[22:33:34] <philk__> njbartlett: thanks!
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[22:34:05] <philk__> njbartlett: ah ok I will try the modified method... gtg tty tomorrow! good n8!
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[22:34:27] <njbartlett> philk__: Good neight to you too ;-)
[22:34:35] <nitind> toulmean: That's the default value.  You probably needed the build.properties to tell it the output of your source folder should be treated as being in "." or the root of the plug-in at runtime.
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[22:35:14] <d_a_carver> toulmean: silly question...is the package that the class resides exported?
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[22:35:38] <d_a_carver> 9 times out of 10 my bundle issues are because I didn't export a package.
[22:35:45] <toulmean> d_a_carver: no it's not.
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[22:35:54] <njbartlett> toulmean: Does your bundle use lazy activation?
[22:35:56] <toulmean> d_a_carver: AFAIK you don't need to export the Activator package
[22:35:58] <toulmean> njbartlett: yes.
[22:36:04] <toulmean> guys, my build.properties: http://pastie.org/734335
[22:36:09] <nitind> toulmean: Activator's public, right?
[22:36:14] <toulmean> nitind: ^
[22:36:29] <toulmean> nitind: yes it is.
[22:37:25] <njbartlett> toulmean: Sorry this error is during self-hosting, not in an exported bundle?
[22:37:50] <toulmean> njbartlett: it's during self hosting. This bundle exposes an application extension point
[22:38:11] <njbartlett> toulmean: Right, then if self-hosting the content of build.properties is irrelevant. That only affects the export.
[22:38:36] <njbartlett> toulmean: Could you pastebin your manifest, and a directory listing of your project?
[22:38:42] <toulmean> njbartlett: good to know
[22:39:25] <toulmean> njbartlett: manifest: http://pastie.org/734342
[22:39:34] <toulmean> gtg for lunch and back in 30 sorry
[22:40:18] <njbartlett> toulmean: no, ping me later if still having problems
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[22:40:27] <njbartlett> toulmean: I mean, no *problem* ;-)
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[23:41:48] <toulmean> njbartlett: still there ?
[23:41:56] <njbartlett> toulmean: Yeah
[23:42:31] <toulmean> njbartlett: yeah, that problem is still very much occurring for me. What puzzles me most is that I only reproduce it in self hosting mode.
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[23:42:44] <toulmean> njbartlett: when my product is assembled I don't get it.
[23:42:57] <njbartlett> toulmean: Interesting...
[23:43:28] <toulmean> njbartlett: are you sure about build.properties not affecting self hosting envs ?
[23:43:42] <toulmean> njbartlett: I remember PDE devs bragging about it being used in there.
[23:44:07] <njbartlett> toulmean: What exactly do you mean by self-hosting? Maybe we're talking at cross purposes
[23:44:21] <toulmean> njbartlett: self-hosting: running eclipse from eclipse ?
[23:44:53] <njbartlett> toulmean: So... using the PDE "Eclipse Application" or "OSGi Framework" launchers?
[23:45:04] <toulmean> Eclipse App
[23:45:13] <toulmean> and the Eclipse App is contained by my bundle.
[23:45:22] <toulmean> the very bundle that doesn't start.
[23:45:41] <njbartlett> toulmean: Okay that's what I think it means too :-)
[23:45:52] <toulmean> njbartlett: cool
[23:46:23] <njbartlett> Well, when you self-host, the project doesn't get built. It just runs "in place"
[23:47:00] <njbartlett> toulmean: Usually people have this problem the other way around, where their bundles work under self-hosting but not when exported. That is nearly always due to something being missing from build.properties.
[23:47:14] <njbartlett> toulmean: But I don't see how build.properties could screw up self-hosting
[23:47:39] <toulmean> njbartlett: I have seen that before. Don't set the correct classpath in there: at runtime the bundle contains nothing
[23:47:56] <toulmean> njbartlett: and poof no more classes in there, and you get ClassNotFoundExceptions.
[23:48:17] <njbartlett> toulmean: Right. Oh I think I have an idea, just a sec
[23:48:44] <toulmean> njbartlett: removing build.properties is usually what I do when I encounter that issue to force the project to use the source folders and target folder used by JDT.
[23:49:54] <njbartlett> toulmean: Looking at your build.properties, it seems you're using an unconventional output directory for the compiled classes
[23:50:05] <njbartlett> toulmean: i.e. target/classes/ rather than bin/
[23:50:08] <toulmean> njbartlett: yes
[23:50:23] <toulmean> njbartlett: should not be a big deal
[23:50:38] <toulmean> njbartlett: after all it works for the 20+ other plugins in my workspace.
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[23:50:58] <njbartlett> toulmean: Sure but does that match the output folder for the JDT project settings?
[23:51:24] <njbartlett> toulmean: Just humour me and check what it says in Project Properties -> Java Build Path -> Source tab -> Default output folder
[23:51:58] <toulmean> njbartlett: com.intalio.bpms.designer.cmdline.core/target/classes
[23:52:25] <njbartlett> Hmm
[23:52:50] <toulmean> njbartlett: it's a real tough one. I have never had to fight that hard against a bundle.
[23:53:03] <nitind> automatic builds are on, right?
[23:53:07] <toulmean> njbartlett: that's why I asked if there was a way to inspect the classpath of that bundle.
[23:53:18] <njbartlett> toulmean: I'm wondering if something is going wrong with the use of the "-dev" flag
[23:53:21] <toulmean> nitind: no, certainly not, but I save with Ctrl+B
[23:53:27] <nitind> I mean, we have made sure that the class file is actually there?
[23:53:33] <toulmean> nitind: yep.
[23:53:49] <toulmean> njbartlett: let me see the arguments.
[23:54:20] <toulmean> njbartlett: ohoho !
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[23:54:39] <toulmean> njbartlett: -dev was in my arguments. Must have added it by mistake. Removed it I get a new error.
[23:54:48] <toulmean> njbartlett: at least it loads the class.
[23:55:02] <njbartlett> toulmean: Err, removing it is not the solution
[23:55:15] <toulmean> njbartlett: well it did something.
[23:55:18] <njbartlett> toulmean: Sorry, got to calm down a crying baby. Back in a minute
[23:55:26] <toulmean> njbartlett: sure.
[23:56:20] <toulmean> njbartlett: nitind : http://pastie.org/734483 is the new error.
[23:57:09] <nitind> toulmean: Do you have a public zero argument constructor on your Activator class?
[23:57:21] <toulmean> nitind: yes I do.
[23:57:39] <toulmean> nitind: the error relates to the start method of the activator.
[23:57:47] <nitind> toulmean: Can you pastie the activator?
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[23:57:59] <toulmean> nitind: ok
[23:58:22] <toulmean> nitind: http://pastie.org/734486
[23:58:36] <toulmean> it's the default bare bone one.
[23:58:58] <toulmean> oh... why the static stuff
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[23:59:43] <toulmean> I removed the static references. I still reproduce the issue.
[23:59:54] <njbartlett> toulmean: Back for the moment
[23:59:59] <nitind> toulmean: Can you just clean and rebuild the entire project?





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