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[00:04:16] <nexx> how do i force eclipse to open dialog windows on the same screen?
[00:05:11] <rcjsuen> I have two screens and don't think it's ever opened in the other monitor before.
[00:05:50] <Infinito> same here
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[00:06:44] <context> on a mac it prolly opens on whatever the primary screen is
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[00:15:05] <nexx> i have 3 screens and it seems randomly
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[00:24:00] <rcjsuen> maybe it's where your mouse is? i only have two monitors
[00:24:07] <rcjsuen> admittedly, my eclipse is only ever on one of them
[00:24:08] <rcjsuen> so
[00:25:05] <nexx> no its not the mouse :\
[00:26:50] <nexx> mostly it seems the last screen it was opened. but sometimes it switches
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[00:35:32] <rhk> I was perusing the code in the dialogs recently, and I think I saw something relevant
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[00:35:47] <rhk> there was something about finding the closest screen
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[04:50:31] <jenia> hi
[04:51:52] <jenia> how can I find a function's definition automatically
[04:51:53] <jenia> ?
[04:52:03] <rcjsuen> F3 maybe
[04:53:09] <jenia> thanks
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[05:02:27] <jenia> can anyone tell me how to set my debugger for multi-threaded applications?
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[05:20:29] <nitind> jenia: Any reason to think it's not already handling them?
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[05:26:02] <jenia> well when i try to step into the run() invocation, its just stepping over
[05:26:57] <jenia> i see the stack for each thread and the main
[05:27:05] <jenia> though
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[06:34:54] <emarinel2> hi, i'm trying to enable jdt weaving in eclipse
[06:35:03] <emarinel2> but it won't turn on
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[08:17:21] <foxtrot> so I am trying to add JSON to my environment so I can use org.json
[08:17:35] <foxtrot> whats the quickest way that can be replicated if I need to compile this on other peoples systems quickly
[08:17:53] <foxtrot> i have both a json.zip file and a comp/json/ directory structure
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[08:50:44] <gauravkumar> anyone who's used and installed VTP in here? Having problems with installation....
[08:51:04] <gauravkumar> http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/
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[09:11:42] <amruta> Hi...i have added a new group in context menu of project explorer view using org.eclipse.ui.popup extension..but this group appears at the last..i want to add this group before the additions group...does anyone know how to do it?
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[09:27:52] <ecfuser95599> #eclipse
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[10:19:16] <ilyak> I've somehow lost an area where current line number/column are shown
[10:19:21] <ilyak> How do I return it back?
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[10:21:31] <raboof> i'm having trouble adding https://openatna.projects.openhealthtools.org/svn/openatna/ as an svn repository location
[10:21:49] <raboof> works fine from the svn commandline, and both svnkit and javahl connectors appear to fail
[10:22:07] <raboof> oh wait
[10:24:17] <raboof> nevermind, looks like it works with javahl (linux) but not svnkit - ran into the gdk thing after restarting :S
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[11:10:16] <amruta> How to add a new group in context menu before additions group for project explorer view
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[11:18:36] <philk_> Bundle.getEntry does not search in fragments?
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[11:23:57] <magmarules> guys my eclipse just crashed after i installed subeclipse to have svn. Now its booting but is stuck at refreshing the workspace (0%). There is no error thrown into the logs. Just says its loading.
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[11:30:31] <milestone> hi all is it possible to update my ganymede installation to galileo through the eclipse update mechanism
[11:34:06] <magmarules> is there a way to kill a background job?
[11:34:21] <magmarules> eclipse is just hanging in a cancel request of svn checkout =/
[11:34:42] <milestone> magmarules: closing and re-opening
[11:35:02] <magmarules> milestone, hangs in the closing, stuck waiting for the task to complete
[11:35:26] <milestone> magmarules: what if you kill the java process?
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[11:35:42] <magmarules> yeah thats what im doing
[11:37:07] <magmarules> there is definitely a bug in subeclipse it keeps hanging =(
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[11:37:38] <magmarules> shouldnt it at least throw errors to .metadata/.log ?
[11:39:10] <magmarules> unn it seems to be a network problem in the office. Yet subeclipse shouldnt hang.
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[12:26:19] <philk_> njbartlett: I read and understood that Bundle.getEntry does not search fragments. One would have to use findEntries, which is much more difficult to code for. Since I have usually a full path to the entry I want to load, using findEntries I would have to split the path into root and pattern as requried by findEntries
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[13:16:20] <magmarules> Guys eclipse is crashing every 5 minutes with a Perm Gem Exception =(
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[13:24:24] <Echidna> can javadocs for swt be downloaded for offline use somewhere?
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[13:25:42] <rcjsuen> If you have Eclipse Classic you have the javadocs alrdy.
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[13:28:26] <rcjsuen> milestone: No, you can't go from Ganymede to Galileo like that.
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[13:28:47] <rcjsuen> magmarules: Well, did you consider upping your permgen memory allocation?
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[13:31:50] <milestone> rcjsuen: thx
[13:33:40] <Echidna> rcjsuen: the guy downloaded eclipse for java and then added the swt pack manually
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[13:33:45] <Echidna> says sources arent included
[13:33:54] <rcjsuen> Then in that case they wouldn't be, no.
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[13:51:13] <ZeekDaGeek> How do I change the font size in Eclipse? o.o
[13:51:17] <ZeekDaGeek> Its a little too big
[13:54:04] <paulweb515> font size for what?  Some fonts are controlled in Preferences>General>Appearances
[13:54:20] <paulweb515> ZeekDaGeek: for others it is controlled by your window setup
[13:55:31] <ZeekDaGeek> Well in the PHP editor, and I see no mention in General Appearances
[13:56:04] <paulweb515> ZeekDaGeek: you can customize some fonts under Appearance (do you see Colors and Fonts?)
[13:56:36] <paulweb515> ZeekDaGeek: the other place to check is the editor itself (i.e. I look under General>Editors>Text Editors and Java>Editors to customize text based and java editors)
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[13:59:27] <ZeekDaGeek> paulweb515, I see lots about colors, tabs and spaces and stuff like that but nothing at all about the actual size of the font.
[14:02:45] <paulweb515> ZeekDaGeek: the font in a source editor can be controlled from 3 places.  1) the specific editor type (like PHP editor) or 2) General>Editors>Text Editors somewhere or 3) your OS settings
[14:02:50] <ZeekDaGeek> paulweb515, found it, really buried in there...
[14:03:49] <amruta> How to add a new group in context menu of project explorer view before the additions group....
[14:03:49] <paulweb515> ZeekDaGeek: sorry, I found something useful in General>Appearance>Colors and Fonts>Basic>Text Font
[14:03:52] <ZeekDaGeek> General > Appearance > Colors and Fonts -- Basic > Text Font > Click Edit
[14:03:59] <paulweb515> ah, yes
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[14:04:45] <amruta> How to add a new group in context menu of project explorer view before the additions group or edit group
[14:05:14] <rcjsuen> i have an ep but dunno which bundle it's from, i don't wanna add everything to require-bundle then delete :/ isn't there a faster way?
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[14:05:47] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: there's a check box that limits extensions to required bundles ... uncheck that and you'll see them all
[14:08:49] <philk_> OSGi is so inconsistent... Bundle.findEntries can return null while BundleContext.getServiceReferences() can return an empty array
[14:09:33] <rcjsuen> oh yeah, forgot about that, thx
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[14:17:12] <ZeekDaGeek> Is there a way to make it so *.js.php opens with Javascript Editor... I can't seem to get it to even add to the file associations.
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[15:19:10] <paulweb515> ZeekDaGeek: try content types ... as well
[15:21:38] <ZeekDaGeek> paulweb515, tried that afterwards and it seems to just get overwrote by *.php.
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[15:29:27] <t0th_-> hi
[15:29:42] <t0th_-> i use aptana but in menu source i cant see generate getters and setters
[15:34:39] <Kudd_> aptana php isn't supported anymore
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[15:39:40] <rcjsuen> assuming you were speaking of php
[15:39:53] <rcjsuen> it's not clear what language you're programming in, t0th_- :o
[15:40:08] <t0th_-> php
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[16:57:32] <stevex-w> Mornin'
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[16:58:51] <philk_> am I allowed to create packages in the org.eclipse.* namespace?
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[17:01:09] <stevex-w> Is there anything that helps keep the pages of a MultiPageEditor in sync?  Or do you just respond to the page changes and, say, parse the XML or regenerate the XML
[17:05:21] <d_a_carver> philk_: it isn't best practice unless you plan to give it back to eclipse.
[17:05:30] <rcjsuen> philk_: I wouldn't if I were you, what d_a_carver said.
[17:06:07] <d_a_carver> stevex-w: usually there are listeners and I've seen the page synch regen option happen as well.
[17:06:40] <t0th_-> hi
[17:06:55] <stevex-w> the plugin.xml editor does something interesting - when you save an invalid plugin.xml file it seems to disassociate itself from that file so the next time you open it it opens in the XML editor
[17:07:07] <t0th_-> i am using eclipse pdt and trying generate getters and setters but in source dont have generate getters and setters
[17:07:09] <t0th_-> can help ?
[17:07:10] <stevex-w> and then when you fix it in the XML editor and close it, the manifest editor opens it
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[17:08:48] <d_a_carver> t0th_-: try http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-eclipse-phpclassgen/index.html
[17:10:06] <philk_> d_a_carver: I would like to give it back to eclipse, no problem with that
[17:10:07] <t0th_-> [d_a_carver]: no
[17:10:19] <philk_> d_a_carver: I am just afraid of refactoring the code later
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[17:14:40] <vadi2> How can I delete a web service that I created in my project, or edit the wsdl file it's working off?
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[17:20:31] <philk_> hmmm the DS editor in PDE is seriously bugged... changing classnames and ids often screws up the source xml. I wonder how that can happen if one is using an XML component like xerces to write XML...
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[17:24:15] <rhk> philk_: I would guess that they aren't using  something like that
[17:24:34] <stevex-w> screws up the source xml how?
[17:24:50] <d_a_carver> philk_: they aren't they are writing it with string concatination.  I know...I know.
[17:25:19] <rhk> yuk
[17:25:29] <philk_> yikes!
[17:25:51] <d_a_carver> rhk phil_ yeah they really need to migrate to SSE XML's editor so they get a DOM to work with.
[17:25:53] <philk_> that needs to be changed! What for are we dragging xerces in the java RT for?
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[17:26:18] <d_a_carver> philk_: it's used because of the SAX parser in standard eclipse.
[17:26:19] <philk_> d_a_carver: are they using string concat in plugin xml too?
[17:26:30] <rhk> DOM would be an improvement
[17:26:59] <d_a_carver> philk_: last time I checked the Plugin Schema Editor and the Plugin XML editors were all doing string concatination, but that was a bout a year or so ago.  I doubt much has changed.
[17:27:02] <rcjsuen> philk_: paulweb515 and I have had problems in the regular plugin.xml editor.
[17:27:13] <philk_> the easiest would be to just use XStream and let it dump the internal model they use for displaying the DS
[17:27:25] <d_a_carver> rhk: well the nice thing about the WTP DOM is that it's linked to the source editor, so you make changes at the dom level it shows up in the source editor.
[17:27:39] <rhk> d_a_carver: that is nice.
[17:28:15] <d_a_carver> the DOM interface and implementation is just an overlay over the SSE model used.
[17:28:16] <rhk> d_a_carver: I'd love to add that into my EMF generated editors
[17:28:33] <philk_> thats just bad bad... creating XML from string concats... oh dear...
[17:28:37] <d_a_carver> rhk: there is a WTP DOM to EMF adaptor pattern set of classes that can be used.
[17:28:39] <rhk> d_a_carver: except EMF doesn't keep the mapping from objects -> xml around once it loads
[17:29:15] <rhk> d_a_carver: does it update the DOM when changes are made on the EMF side? that would rock
[17:29:24] <d_a_carver> rhk: yes I believe so.
[17:29:31] <rhk> I'd love a "source" tab in my EMF editors
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[17:30:50] <d_a_carver> rhk: http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-WTP-Persisting-EMF/persisting.html
[17:31:21] <rhk> d_a_carver: is that article still relevant? it's from 2005?
[17:33:11] <d_a_carver> rhk: yes...and you also want to look for EMF2DOMSSE in the org.eclipse.wst.xml.core plugin
[17:33:48] <rhk> d_a_carver: will do. thanks!
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[17:39:34] <d_a_carver> rhk there is a document describing how to use the emf2domsse except it's hidden somewhere on the web site.  I've found it in the past need to move that article to the wiki.
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[17:40:36] <mc_teo> hey
[17:40:53] <mc_teo> how can i setup eclispe for both java and c++
[17:40:59] <mc_teo> anyone?
[17:41:24] <rhk> mc_teo: install either the JDT or CDT version of eclipse, then use help -> install new software to install the other one
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[17:42:00] <mc_teo> lol i just downloaded the second one
[17:42:14] <rhk> doesn't matter which you start from
[17:42:37] <rhk> you can install any of the other features once you have a working copy
[17:43:10] <mc_teo> ok... i thought i could just copy the plugins or something my original c++ one
[17:43:39] <rhk> you could, but that gets messy
[17:43:51] <rhk> the online installer works nicely.
[17:45:12] <rhk> just pick the galileo update site, and pick items from the large list of what you want to install
[17:45:39] <mc_teo> the galileo is coming up as not found, do i want to edit the location
[17:46:01] <mc_teo> wait, now its woring
[17:46:06] <mc_teo> working*
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[18:00:27] <Echidna> does the eclipse help system support adding further keywords to a term?
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[18:00:35] <Echidna> which can then be used in the search field
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[18:10:42] <daedra> hey, I don't personally use eclipse, nor to I use windows, but would downloading and installing eclipse be enough for a person running vista so that they could build and compile java programs?
[18:10:56] <daedra> s/to/do/
[18:11:32] <daedra> I'm a linux & vim user for now, and I'm just trying to help them out
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[18:13:08] <daedra> does eclipse come with the JDK? I don't see it in this list: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-java-developers/galileosr1
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[18:16:51] <philk__> njbartlett: hi! according to the osgi specs the bundle headers can be translated using the bundle l10n. Is this mechanism somehow exposed as a service? In Equinox I can use the BundleLocalization service, but is there a standard OSGi way to access the bundle l10n?
[18:17:16] <magnet> wow, philk_ spies on njbartlett :)
[18:17:25] <magnet> I have a question too ;)
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[18:17:46] <njbartlett> magnet: philk__ Yes I do feel like I'm being stalked :-)
[18:17:49] <philk__> magnet: I hava WB-listener on njbartlett
[18:18:10] <philk__> (nick=njbartlett*)
[18:18:13] <magnet> njbartlett, hi there; Just a small question if you have time. I use DS with 0..n references, and I want to filter on the config of each service on the bind method. I saw the activate method could get a map but I would like the same on bind methods. Is it possible?
[18:18:17] <njbartlett> philk__: Whatever you do, please do not tell my wife how to set one of those up ;-)
[18:18:26] <magnet> hehe
[18:18:45] <philk__> njbartlett: I hardly get the LDAP filters right myself, so no worries. I would not be able to tell your wife :)
[18:18:58] <njbartlett> magnet: Yes if you're using DS 1.1 then you can take a Map as the second parameter of your bind method. That Map will contain the service properties.
[18:19:28] <philk__> why is DS not guessing the bind/unbind method names from the name of the reference itself?
[18:19:37] <magnet> njbartlett, awesome. Avoids me to taint my service interface. Ok, Map<String, Object> I presume? And DS 1.1 is with Equinox in Galileo?
[18:19:38] <njbartlett> magnet: But if your filter can be expressed an as LDAP filter expression it's better to do that rather than programmatically filter in the bind method
[18:20:29] <magnet> njbartlett, where can I put that LDAP filter, then?
[18:20:32] <njbartlett> magnet: You can treat it as Map<String,Object> yes. Of course it's erased at runtime so as far as DS cares it's just a raw map. And yes, DS1.1 is implemented in Equinox 3.5.1
[18:20:36] <magnet> I want to filter on the properties
[18:20:51] <njbartlett> magnet: You can put the LDAP filter in the "target" attribute of the <reference> element.
[18:21:16] <magnet> Ohhh, so that's what it's for! It's really hard to find documentation and the specs are a bit raw :)
[18:21:44] <magnet> with LDAP filters I only know "objclass=", I'd like to filter on the component configuration; is it possible?
[18:22:15] <magnet> (I guess it's standard with ServiceTracker, so I'll check there if it's possible)
[18:22:17] <njbartlett> magnet: Sure, you can filter on any of the service properties, even arbitrary ones you define yourself.
[18:22:42] <magnet> awesome :). I didn't know there were standard (as in non arbitrary) service properties anyway
[18:22:56] <rcjsuen> daedra: No, the Eclipse downloads from eclipse.org don't come with a JRE/JDK.
[18:23:25] <njbartlett> philk__: Regarding your question, no I don't think that is implemented as a service.
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[18:24:15] <magnet> Ok, thanks a lot. I have two bonus questions if you allow :). 1) can a DS exporting a service have references to the service it's providing? (ie cyclic references). 2) What is Factory ID for?
[18:24:39] <magnet> (and by the way I toyed with your Extensions2Services project, works really fine)
[18:24:55] <njbartlett> 1) Hmm a DS component that depends on itself? Why??
[18:24:56] <philk__> njbartlett: how is l10n supposed to happen in OSGi? Using normal Java ResourceBundle for the classes?
[18:25:21] <magnet> njbartlett, because I need components that know their siblings.
[18:25:42] <njbartlett> magnet: DS will detect situations where there is a circular dependency between a group of components, and report that as an error. But you can always break the circle by making at least one reference in it optional.
[18:25:58] <magnet> I can model it differently with a higher-level service, but it would be nice to have a siblings reference with a filter that says "objclass!=me"
[18:25:59] <njbartlett> magnet: What do you mean by siblings? You mean other components in the same bundle?
[18:26:12] <magnet> I mean other providers of the same service
[18:26:12] <philk__> njbartlett: another question... I have a bunch of services that implementations all based on one baseclass. Now in the DS xml I would have to make sure the bindings are all setup as the base class expects them... is there a way to make this easier? You could easily forget to set a binding correctly
[18:26:46] <magnet> njbartlett, I use it for a "service delegation"; really like the delegation pattern, but with services
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[18:27:18] <njbartlett> magnet: Oh so you want to bind to other services of the same time, but somehow exclude yourself? Are you trying to implement some kind of interceptor?
[18:27:28] <njbartlett> Err I mean same type, not same time
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[18:27:41] <magnet> yes exactly, not really an interceptor, but a delegate
[18:27:52] <magnet> I guess it's the same, depending on your point of view :)
[18:28:22] <magnet> my aggregate service can call other services of the same type, yet the client code is not modified
[18:28:37] <njbartlett> magnet: Hmm you could simply check whether this == other, i.e. use object equality. But the problem with doing this is you cannot filter out the "back-end" services from clients who query for that service type. It's best to use service hooks for this kind of thing.
[18:29:59] <magnet> njbartlett, ok; I see. So it could work with DS using 0..n (suboptimal, better with the programmatic API), but not with 1..n?
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[18:30:49] <magnet> well I'll try the different possibilities, thanks for the valuable info anyway :)
[18:31:01] <njbartlett> magnet: I guess it would work with 1..n as well. I thought you were trying to set up some components that had circular references to each other.
[18:31:16] <njbartlett> magnet: But if the "others" don't depend on your delegator component, then it's not circular.
[18:31:24] <magnet> njbartlett, yes, but only one has a circular reference, the delegator itself
[18:31:36] <magnet> unless if I can filter it out (which I can)
[18:31:45] <daedra> rcjsuen: ok thanks
[18:32:18] <njbartlett> magnet: You should really look at Service Hooks. They're designed for this sort of thing, i.e. putting a facade in front of a service and preventing clients from seeing the "real" service behind the facade.
[18:32:20] <magnet> I know the qualified class name from the delegator, so I can use a LDAP filter in target to filter it out
[18:32:40] <magnet> njbartlett, ok, any pointer besides the OSGi spec + compendium?
[18:33:13] <njbartlett> magnet: Sadly not, Service Hooks are a bit new and I don't think anybody has written much accessible documentation for them. They were designed for use with D-OSGi but they have more uses than that.
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[18:34:02] <njbartlett> magnet: Also they're a little bit "advanced", you have to be careful using them. I think somebody needs to write an easy to use framework around them for doing things like what you're doing! Hopefully that somebody doesn't have to be me :-(
[18:34:11] <magnet> njbartlett, OK, thanks. I'm not trying to make a generic delegate service though
[18:34:46] <njbartlett> magnet: No. But if such a thing existed then you could use it.
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[18:35:37] <magnet> njbartlett, yep, that would sure be nice. I'd gladly propose myself for the higher-level framework but it's up to my employer ;)
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[18:36:31] <njbartlett> philk__: Sorry for ignoring your question. I must admit I haven't spent much time looking at l10n recently, but yes in general it just uses ResourceBundle.
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[18:38:44] <philk__> njbartlett: I will soon publish a blog post about extensible command action services. I will use l10n with Equinox there and maybe someone can point out a more portable solution for other OSGi frameworks
[18:39:02] <philk__> njbartlett: that is commands for the console...
[18:39:18] <njbartlett> philk__: Cool. Sorry got to go now... TTYL!
[18:42:32] <magnet> bye and thanks njbartlett
[18:42:39] <magnet> going too
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[18:47:30] <rcjsuen> ~tell philk__ about 293474
[18:47:32] <Arbalest> philk__: Bug 293474 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=293474 - PDE / UI / 3.6 - PC / Linux - NEW / critical / - Assignee: pde-ui-inbox - Editing extensions in PDE editor creates invalid plugin.xml
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[18:51:12] <jenia> hi can someone remind me please, how can I navigate tabs from the keyboard?
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[18:52:07] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+PgUp/Down
[18:52:30] <rhk> handy. didn't know that
[18:53:08] <rhk> I wonder why they didn't use the more common ctrl-tab that windows uses?
[18:53:54] <philk__> rcjsuen: ah yeah... added comment
[18:54:06] <rcjsuen> that's an oldie
[18:54:48] <philk__> rhk: ctrl-tab I am hitting that constantly too... pity
[18:55:30] <rcjsuen> i just remapped ctrl+f6 to ctrl+tab *shrugs*
[18:55:49] <rcjsuen> not the same as remapping pgup/down, but whatever
[18:55:56] <rcjsuen> I'm cool with using MRU behaviour.
[18:56:10] <philk__> rcjsuen: on your installation or the in Eclipse general for the next I-build?
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[18:56:19] <rcjsuen> i mean on my installation
[18:56:34] <philk__> rcjsuen: should be a default :)
[18:56:41] <rcjsuen> i'm not gonna be the one to change keybindings ;)
[18:56:50] <jenia> okay thanks
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[18:57:26] <jenia> also maybe someone knows, there is a key-combination for which a menu appears in the middle of the screen
[18:57:34] <jenia> someone knows that one by any chance?
[18:57:49] <rhk> ~6199
[18:57:50] <Arbalest> Bug 6199 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=6199 - Platform / SWT / 2.0 - PC / Windows 2000 - NEW / normal / - Assignee: steve_northover - CTRL+TAB doesn't go to next tab folder page
[18:58:01] <rhk> from 2001
[18:58:05] <jenia> btw i'm talking about scrolling between tabs
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[18:58:57] <rhk> jenia: like ctrl-f6 that rcjsuen just mentioned?
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[18:59:50] <rcjsuen> rhk: I doubt that one will get fixed. There's a Platform/UI equivalent though.
[18:59:58] <rcjsuen> which would have a higher chance of getting fixed
[19:00:33] <rcjsuen> ~272313
[19:00:34] <Arbalest> Bug 272313 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272313 - Platform / UI / 3.5 - PC / Windows XP - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: platform-ui-triaged - [EditorMgmt] Next/previous editor should map to ctrl+tab/ctrl+shift+tab
[19:00:35] <jenia> yea, thanks rcjsuen and rhk
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[19:00:48] <rcjsuen> oh just realized I'm the QA contact for that one
[19:00:57] * rcjsuen expects a flood of PMs arriving through IRC shortly.
[19:01:09] <rhk> can't you mark it as dupe of 6199 :)
[19:03:19] <rcjsuen> rhk: well, Steve doesn't work for SWT anymore, that woudl be synonymous with sweeping it under the rug i guess
[19:03:27] <rhk> heh
[19:03:34] <rcjsuen> work _on_ SWT anymore, to be clear
[19:03:37] <rcjsuen> SWT isn't a company or anything ;)
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[19:04:10] <rhk> isn't there a bug clean-up process for unassigning bugs from people who no longer work on the components they are filed against?
[19:04:19] <rhk> or maybe there should be
[19:04:19] <rcjsuen> we did that for UI recently
[19:04:25] <rcjsuen> I guess SWT team hasn't initiated that process yet.
[19:04:39] <rhk> 6199 was from the year 2001.
[19:05:09] <rcjsuen> To be clear, it's not like Steve left in 2002. ;)
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[19:05:47] <rhk> comment 5 puts you on the spot now, doesn't it :)
[19:05:49] <krbarnes> rhk, rcjsuen: moving all of Steve's bugs would cause too much bugzilla noise. Felipe Heidrich watches them, and reassigns the ones he's actually working on.
[19:05:59] <krbarnes> that's the process, it is complete
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[19:06:39] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: we just bit the bullet and moved them all in UI, i had around 500 for myself (Boris -> me), and then maybe another 100+ for other ppl (X -> Y)
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[19:07:14] <rcjsuen> i mean
[19:07:15] <rcjsuen> bugzilla noise spam
[19:08:33] <krbarnes> that's a lot of noise though... what if real bugzilla mail comes in amongst the noise?
[19:09:53] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: well, i dunno about the rest of the team, i literally clicked every one of them
[19:09:53] <rcjsuen> but i'm a single 23-year old with no life
[19:09:53] <rcjsuen> unlike the rest of the team that has families
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[19:10:14] <paulweb515> I always check every bugzilla mail I get ... just in case a real comment shows up in the 361 (moving per process :-)
[19:11:37] <rcjsuen> from my query steve has 490 bugs
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[19:11:45] <krbarnes> meh... steve  can keep them (so can Billy and Veronika)
[19:12:07] <rcjsuen> if i run a query and find bugs assigned to one of those ppl (or Duong)
[19:12:12] <rcjsuen> i punt it back to inbox
[19:12:41] <rcjsuen> to be clear, i mean if i hit a bug and i find the one i hit
[19:12:50] <rcjsuen> not to say i'm going to punt steve's bugs to inbox right now :)
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[19:14:07] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: knock yourself out... we've been known to assign new bugs to inactive committers too. Doesn't happen very often, but if no one active "owns" that component...
[19:14:25] <rcjsuen> lol
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[19:52:12] <ronghail> do I want the java or java EE eclipse?  for android dev
[19:52:59] <rcjsuen> I think their website states the requirements, doesn't it?
[19:53:08] <ronghail> sorta
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[19:55:20] <ronghail> well it has both there
[19:55:39] <ronghail> Recommended Eclipse IDE packages: Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers, Eclipse IDE for Java Developers, Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers, or Eclipse Classic (3.5.1+)
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[20:01:33] <erdal> is there a preference to set to exit eclipse instead of closing a window (when multiple windows are open)?
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[20:10:54] <jnoah1984_2> Hello, I am relatively new to the Eclipse IDE. I am trying to use JUnit however eclipse does not seem to (be able to?) add JUnit to the build path. I am using eclipse 3.2 on a school computer and unable to update to 3.5. Is there a specific jar I can manually add or something similar I can do to get JUnit working?
[20:12:22] <rcjsuen> in the project properties you can add jars to the build path
[20:12:40] <jnoah1984_2> which jar do I add?
[20:12:46] <jnoah1984_2> is it called junit.jar?
[20:15:00] <jnoah1984_2> rcjsuen: is it just called junit.jar?
[20:15:18] <rcjsuen> it's something like org.junit
[20:23:08] <jnoah1984_2> rcjsuen I figured it out. I don't know why, but the school's comps don't have junit.jar so I just downloaded the far from sf.net and added it to the buildpath. thanks for your help
[20:23:46] <rhk> jnoah1984_2: probably the same reason they still have eclipse 3.2 :)
[20:24:08] <jnoah1984_2> The comps are RHEL 5 boxes...
[20:24:10] <jnoah1984_2> so yeah
[20:24:27] <jnoah1984_2> although OO.o is 3.1....
[20:24:32] <jnoah1984_2> oh well
[20:24:59] <rhk> until recently a lot of linux distros only had older versions of eclipse
[20:25:40] <jnoah1984_2> Has Ubuntu moved up yet? I know it was stuck on 3.2 for ages. rhk: why do you think that is/was?
[20:25:55] <rhk> the latest ubuntu has 3.5
[20:26:00] <rhk> maybe even 3.5.1
[20:26:01] <jnoah1984_2> that's good.
[20:26:09] <rhk> I still installed my own copy
[20:26:21] <jnoah1984_2> Did you build your own copy?
[20:26:30] <rhk> no, just downloaded it from eclipse.org
[20:27:00] <rhk> I run a heavy install. jdt, cdt, emf, pdt, pydev
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[20:27:37] <vadi2> How can I add an external .jar into my project to the Web App Libraries?
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[20:31:20] <brightsitesconsu> Hi, I'm using a mac and svnserver and trying to get aptana to checkout the repo, but I get a 405 Method not allowed error. Any ideas?
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[20:31:45] <vadi2> Got it
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[20:34:33] <nitind> brightsitesconsu: Not sure what client they include.  You might have to check with Aptana.
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[20:41:10] <jenia> given a function f how can i find it definition using a keyboard combination?
[20:44:08] <rhk> if the cursor is in the function name, I think F3 does it
[20:47:17] <jenia> thanks
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[21:07:16] <jenia> can anyone tell me how to pause one of the threads in debug mode?
[21:21:36] <d_a_carver> jenia: should be able to select the thread and then hit the Pause button.
[21:21:59] <d_a_carver> or set a break point in that particular thread.
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[21:23:48] <jenia> ummhumm okay im going to try this in a few minutes
[21:23:58] <jenia> thank you very much
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[21:27:16] <Graf_Ithaka> hi there
[21:27:33] <Graf_Ithaka> well ahm I've got a problem - probably known but I cant find anything useful on google..
[21:28:36] <Graf_Ithaka> when I try to start eclipse (up2date - 3.5) it just doesnt start but there are no errors or anything - the return value returned by echo$? is 13 - any ideas?
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[21:38:05] <Graf_Ithaka> okay I finally got some debug log http://pastebin.com/dccab5ed
[21:38:38] <Graf_Ithaka> anything I can find on google suggests I activate some plugins but the GUI does not start so I cant access the controls.. is there a way to access them manually?
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[21:48:02] <rcjsuen> Graf_Ithaka: probably want to try downloading again
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[22:05:00] <Primer> Is anyone aware of a decent, maintained, plugin for Lua?
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[22:17:19] <Graf_Ithaka> reinstalling and downloading again doesnt help
[22:17:47] <Graf_Ithaka> on google people suggest "registering plugins" but as the gui is not loaded I cant access the menus to do so
[22:19:50] <rcjsuen> Graf_Ithaka: what file did you download
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[22:23:39] <Graf_Ithaka>  eclipse-SDK-3.5.1-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
[22:24:29] <rcjsuen> And you're on a 64-bit system?
[22:24:35] <f00d> Does anybody know how I might suppress the default "General -> File, Folder, Project" wizards from the newWizard extension?
[22:25:46] <Graf_Ithaka> rcjsuen: yes I am.. I'm running slamd64, jre 1.6.0_17
[22:26:02] <rcjsuen> Graf_Ithaka: Can you run 'java' from the command line?
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[22:26:19] <rcjsuen> f00d: Maybe with activities I guess.
[22:26:57] <f00d> Let me look that up
[22:27:03] <Graf_Ithaka> rcjsuen: yes, thats not the problem.. when I try to start eclipse I'll get the splashscreen for not even a second and then the errormessage to the logfile
[22:27:12] <Graf_Ithaka> which contains: http://pastebin.com/d20045cf0
[22:27:34] <rcjsuen> what does 'java -version'
[22:27:35] <rcjsuen> say
[22:27:52] <rcjsuen> Did you verify the file's checksum?
[22:27:56] <Graf_Ithaka> rcjsuen: java version "1.6.0_17"
[22:27:56] <Graf_Ithaka> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_17-b04)
[22:27:57] <Graf_Ithaka> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.3-b01, mixed mode)
[22:30:16] <Graf_Ithaka> rcjsuen: the file's okay, the checksums have been verfied, I dont know what the problem is..
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[22:31:26] <rcjsuen> Where is your JRE installed
[22:31:32] <f00d> rcjsuen, thanks, this looks like it will do it, i'll read into it
[22:31:49] <Graf_Ithaka> rcjsuen: /usr/lib64
[22:31:49] <rcjsuen> I can't imagine that's the full path
[22:32:17] <rcjsuen> you just have /usr/lib64/bin/java? pretty odd setup imo
[22:34:04] <Graf_Ithaka> okay, after the update it's changed to /usr/lib/jre1.6.0_17/   all the stuffs in there (jre, lib, javaws, ...)
[22:34:39] <Graf_Ithaka> anyways when I had 1.6.0_11 its been in /usr/lib64/java/ but the error is the same
[22:34:45] <rcjsuen> ./eclipse -vm /usr/lib/jre1.6.0_17/bin/java
[22:35:44] <Graf_Ithaka> rcjsuen: same error, as I said it does start up but then exits with "An error has occurred.  See the log file
[22:35:47] <Graf_Ithaka> /home/georg/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0_1473617060/configuration/1260221896176.log"
[22:36:04] <Graf_Ithaka> and the logfile contains what I've put on pastebin
[22:36:31] <rcjsuen> I'm out of ideas at the moment.
[22:36:51] <Graf_Ithaka> so am I.. I already tried hell a lot of things
[22:37:36] <Graf_Ithaka> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter  <-- He cant find it, neither can I.. I'm not into java-programming, should it be a file or a function or what?
[22:38:10] <rcjsuen> it'd be in a jar file
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[22:53:04] <stevex-w> I'm working on an editor plugin for a particular file .. I have a contentType plugin and an editor plugin .. when I launch Eclipse the Package Explorer shows up and the associated file shows with my icon for like half a second and then changes to the xml icon
[22:53:06] <stevex-w> odd
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[23:03:27] <anli_> In eclipse for ubuntu, I try to create a new php project, but nothing happends when I press the "next button"
[23:05:24] <Graf_Ithaka> so ahm - just if anybody followed the problems I had.. I just downloaded the precompied program-release and this one worked.. so probably its a problem of gcj or something
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[23:11:42] <rcjsuen> Graf_Ithaka: the precompiled program release?
[23:12:10] <rcjsuen> anli_: Try using the keyboard.
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[23:20:02] <Graf_Ithaka> rcjsuen: yep it worked, so I copied it over to /opt as I'm not interested in finding the problem which caused the self-compiled version to break
[23:20:21] <rcjsuen> Graf_Ithaka: so what is this "precompiled program release" anyway
[23:21:06] <Graf_Ithaka> dunno I downloaded it, extracted the package and ran eclipse from there, and it did..
[23:21:09] <Graf_Ithaka> work
[23:21:10] <Graf_Ithaka> ^^
[23:21:19] <rcjsuen> where did you download it from?
[23:22:51] <Graf_Ithaka> rcjsuen: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5.1-200909170800/index.php   <--  Platform Runtime Binary
[23:23:02] <rcjsuen> oic
[23:23:05] <rcjsuen> very strange indeed
[23:23:41] <Graf_Ithaka> yep strange and now it fails to install the C/C++ Extension.. omg today's not my day -.-
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[23:25:55] <dolcraith> hi, i've been having a focus related issue with eclipse (ganymede and galileo) where on certain buttons left click only focuses on the button and i have to press enter to "click" the button, has anyone seen/heard of this issue before?
[23:26:03] <Graf_Ithaka> okay, now it did work out
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[23:26:06] <rcjsuen> dolcraith: See FAQ in channel topic.
[23:27:03] <dolcraith> okay, thanks
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[23:37:34] <kaje> What is the best way to get a View from within an Action?
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[23:37:51] <rcjsuen> kaje: That would highly depend how said "action" was constructed.
[23:37:59] <rcjsuen> and what contextual information it has access to
[23:38:16] <rcjsuen> there are IWorkbenchPage apis for finding views, i presume you are familiar with those alrdy
[23:39:40] <kaje> All the Action has is an IWorkbenchWindow...
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[23:40:00] <rcjsuen> well you can get its active page
[23:40:03] <rcjsuen> and then go on from there...?
[23:40:35] <kaje> I guess I could do: window.getWorkbench().getActiveWorkbenchWindow().getActivePage().getViewReferences() and then iterate through that until I find the view with the ID I'm looking for... But that seems overly-complicated...
[23:40:44] <kaje> Or maybe that is the way to go?
[23:40:56] <rcjsuen> i don't see why you don't just get the page from the window
[23:41:21] <kaje> ahh, I see that now
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