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[00:18:39] <tokam> I dislike the advertising in the eclipse plugin dev docs
[00:18:40] <tokam> http://help.eclipse.org/ganymede/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/extension-points/org_eclipse_core_expressions_definitions.html
[00:18:59] <tokam> probably you can enable a close button for the advertising?
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[00:24:32] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure. That would kind of defeat the purpose of the ad.
[00:25:11] <tokam> does anyone here have an example for the resolve elements usage? http://help.eclipse.org/ganymede/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/extension-points/org_eclipse_core_expressions_definitions.html I would like to call the getLength() method of my org.eclipse.jface.text.ITextSelection object and check if it is bigger than 0
[00:25:27] <tokam> I am talking about an xml script using org.eclipse.core.expressions.definitions
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[00:26:32] <tokam> or probably i have to use test instead of resolve
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[00:34:51] <tokam> Hello, I need help with my plugin.xml http://pastebin.de/3486 My problem is, that my menucontribution is visible for ITextSelections with the length of 0 as well.
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[00:58:49] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: SWT for Qt... does it exist yet?
[01:00:12] <tokam> rcjsuen: is there perhaps a possibility to run my own java code instead of using the <extension point="org.eclipse.core.expressions.definitions"> for my visibleWhen statment?
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[01:00:46] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: There's early access for eSWT anyway.
[01:00:55] <rcjsuen> tokam: you can use property testers, i think
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[01:05:40] <diogo_79> is there any software that saves code
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[01:06:08] <tokam> i will try to work with them. http://help.eclipse.org/ganymede/topic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/extension-points/org_eclipse_ui_menus.html#e.visibleWhen do you understand, the checkEnabled attribute?
[01:06:16] <rcjsuen> diogo_79: I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. Isn't that what Ctrl+S is for?
[01:06:26] <diogo_79> lol
[01:06:30] <diogo_79> no
[01:06:52] <diogo_79> iam talking about a database where wee store the code
[01:07:13] <diogo_79> that can be index for later use
[01:07:39] <rcjsuen> That can be indexed for later use?
[01:08:21] <diogo_79> yes
[01:08:30] <diogo_79> this is nothing to do with eclipse
[01:08:43] <rcjsuen> Don't you mean you want an SCM system?
[01:08:49] <tokam> diogo_79: you can use a svn server and the subclipse plugin to have a well backuped team development environment
[01:10:23] <diogo_79> i think is more like svn server
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[01:12:12] <tokam> rcjsuen: get i just call the getLength() method if the ITextSelection in the property attribute of the test element?
[01:12:21] <tokam> or how did you mean this suggestion?
[01:13:02] <tokam> probably we have to use resolve before?
[01:13:13] <rcjsuen> All I remember is that there is some property tester class to subclass / interface to implement to tie in with menu contributions for returning true/false. I don't remember anything else.
[01:15:15] <tokam> this are all avialable subelements of the definition:  <!ELEMENT definition (not | and | or | instanceof | test | systemTest | equals | count | with | resolve | adapt | iterate)>
[01:15:23] <pietia> rcjsuen, looks like tasktop doesnt have email support :|
[01:15:51] <tokam> what u are telling me sounds good for me, but i cant actually see how to run my own code.
[01:17:49] <tokam> it looks like it is test and it looks like i have to set forcePluginActivation to true as well, do you think this is a good idea? In this case my plugin will be loaded when a menu gets opened
[01:20:52] <tokam> do you have rights to change the docs rcjsuen?
[01:21:15] <rcjsuen> Not sure. If the docs have a problem, file abug.
[01:22:26] <tokam> not realy a problem but we could link here the word "property tester extension point" with the right page http://help.eclipse.org/ganymede/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/extension-points/org_eclipse_core_expressions_propertyTesters.html
[01:22:46] <tokam> http://help.eclipse.org/ganymede/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/extension-points/org_eclipse_core_expressions_definitions.html
[01:24:20] <tokam> if this is the right extension point, i was just searching for it on google after reading about it, when it was not linked. but i will be silent reading a bit now, i feel a bit like talking to much.
[01:24:25] <tokam> sorry for this.
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[01:32:23] <rhk> hmm. I'm implementing a dialog that extends TrayDialog, and when I repeatedly open and close the tray, the window keeps changing size, until eventually it gets all wacked out.
[01:32:39] <rhk> I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, or if this is a bug
[01:34:23] <jordyd> I want to install the Eclipse JDT, and I already have Eclipse installed, but I cannot find a link (like CDT's http://download.eclipse.org/tools/cdt/releases/galileo) to add to my "Available Software Sites".
[01:36:24] <rcjsuen> just use the default galileo site
[01:36:43] <ptech> hey all - does eclipse have anything in place to prevent incorrent 'html tag location' errors when using dynamic content? For example I have: ([top.php] { <div> }) ([bottom.php] { </div> }) and I'll get an html syntax error since the start tag doesn't start exist in bottom.php
[01:37:13] <jordyd> rcjsuen: That doesn't seem to be in my Available Software list.
[01:37:29] <rcjsuen> what isn't, the default galileo site?
[01:37:34] <jordyd> Yes.
[01:37:42] <rcjsuen> you mean your combo box is empty?
[01:38:00] <jordyd> No, I have the Eclipse CDT, but nothing else.
[01:38:28] <rcjsuen> see faq in topic, explains why it's empty and the galileo site is also listed there
[01:38:57] <jordyd> Ok, thank you.
[01:39:09] <ptech> (btw I'm using Galileo + PDT)
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[01:43:46] <jordyd> I'm getting this error now after I've added the URL and tried to install JDT: http://pastebin.com/m784c3660
[01:44:25] <jordyd> It looks like it's saying I already have it installed.
[01:46:48] <jordyd> OK, I'm just going to reinstall.
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[01:50:29] <ptech> so Im guessing the html validator in eclipse doesn't support parsing dynamic content?
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[01:55:44] <tokam> rcjsuen: do i have to define my own properties here in the properties variable, and refer to this when using the propertiy tester? http://help.eclipse.org/ganymede/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/extension-points/org_eclipse_core_expressions_propertyTesters.html
[01:57:24] <tokam> so the usage of this example listener can look like this can t it? <test property="org.eclipse.jdt.ui.canDelete" value"TRUE"></test >
[01:57:41] <rcjsuen> i think 'properties' can be self-defined
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[02:00:59] <tokam> yes and to test against them i have to access them like this "namespace.name" is this right?
[02:02:26] <ptech> what's the name of the html validator used in eclipse (gal)?
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[02:05:26] <sylence> greetings! i've a question about eclipse php: eclipse marks a syntax error at the following line. it doesn't recognize the nested <?php ... ?> inside html tags. is this behaviour wanted?
[02:05:30] <sylence> <link rel="stylesheet" href="<?php echo $path; ?>" type="text/css" media="screen" />
[02:06:22] <ptech> sylence: Im here with the same kind of question heh
[02:06:46] <ptech> sylence: Im getting mounds of incorrent syntax errors from splitting up dynamic content in PDT
[02:07:14] <sylence> ptech: oh, fine. :) first time i meet another one using such syntax and eclipse php together
[02:07:53] <ptech> sylence: that line you gave doesn't throw a syntax error on mine
[02:08:00] <sylence> do you have a solution for that? i really like eclipse, but i don't like it to see the red crosses on all my templates ;)
[02:08:14] <sylence> oh, strange
[02:08:24] <ptech> you can filter the errors Im sure - but I would rather find a true fix for the validator
[02:08:34] <sylence> i'm using 20090920-1017
[02:09:23] <sylence> interesting, that line really works, if i place it inside a php file
[02:09:32] <sylence> my templates are named *.htm
[02:09:41] <sylence> maybe i should just change the endings :D
[02:09:44] <sylence> thanks!
[02:10:09] <ptech> if I put main.php:[[[[ <div><?php include('foo.php'); ?> ]]]] ---- foo.php:[[[[ </div> ]]]] wouldn't you assume the validator would realize it's dynamic content and not throw an error for a missing <div> in foo.php?
[02:10:18] <ptech> sylence: hah
[02:10:49] <sylence> oh, thats a template engine of a framework?
[02:11:12] <sylence> of course it looks like a dynamic content, but there are many different template engines out there
[02:11:31] <sylence> this one uses [[[[ ... ]]]], but there are so much other variants :)
[02:11:48] <ptech> oh no -- the [[[ was just how I showed it in irc heh
[02:12:10] <sylence> oh, now i understand the problem
[02:12:21] <ptech> I meant: page1.php=" <div> <?php include('page2.php); ?>"  page2.php="</div>"
[02:12:26] <sylence> yeah
[02:12:29] <sylence> difficult question
[02:12:37] <sylence> the parser parses just one file
[02:13:02] <ptech> which is pretty crappy IMO - why would they have not built that in? considering PDT is PDT
[02:13:14] <sylence> and if you read trough syntax definitions, page1.php isn't correct php or html ;)
[02:13:14] <rhk> isn't that kind of a poor practice to do?
[02:13:19] <sylence> i would unterstand if they don't want that
[02:13:23] <ptech> so I have 200+ .php files, all dynamic, and im just going to have to turn off html validation
[02:13:46] <sylence> rhk: true. i think that's no good coding style, this main.php just isn't a valid php file
[02:14:42] <ptech> It's an extremely large web-based business mgmt system and it's the best way of doing what it does - it's not exactly as simple as the example provided ;)
[02:15:10] <rhk> so it's not like you have a lot of choice in the matter :0
[02:15:43] <ptech> so you're saying including a header.php with meta tags on every other page would be poor practice? how else would you do it?
[02:15:56] <ptech> duplicate code on every file?
[02:16:22] <rhk> no, the poor practice would be starting a tag in one file and ending it in a different one
[02:16:24] <sylence> i've got another question: is there any good vim (clone) available to embed in eclipse? i tried eclim, but that threw many errors
[02:17:16] <ptech> well consider <body> tags heh - if you include both header/footer then you'd have a duplicate <body> / </body> on every content file ---- but im getting way off channel topic heh
[02:17:34] <ptech> sylence: if you find one - msg me please
[02:18:32] <tokam> rcjsuen: i will give my property tester a go now :)
[02:18:49] <sylence> ptech: have you tried eclim?
[02:19:54] <ptech> no but I nearly did
[02:20:07] <sylence> ?
[02:22:54] <ptech> I read about it and then forgot about it heh -- also this code throws an error with div tags: http://pastebin.com/m680ee5a7 (the last line)
[02:25:30] <tokam> rcjsuen: Thanks for your help, it works like expected but do you think it is a worse idea to do it like this, because my plugin loads early and breaks a bit with lazy loading doesnt it?
[02:26:19] <rcjsuen> well, if you find a better idea you could always just replace it then
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[02:28:28] <tokam> yes you are right. do you want a short review of how i solved it or do you remember how to do it yourself?
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[02:30:42] <rcjsuen> Perhaps you could contribute it to the wiki page. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menu Contributions
[02:31:39] <bthornton> For those of you who use Eclipse to edit PHP/XHTML: is there some plugin that will format XHTML in a manner that reflects the DOM heirarchy (i.e. it's readable and indented to reflect tag structure)? The default formatter isn't cutting it for me.
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[02:34:55] <tokam> does not look like i can edit it?
[02:35:10] <rcjsuen> tokam: Well, you need a bugzilla account.
[02:35:44] <tokam> ok, i will sign up tomorrow and probably add one sentence concerning to the test element to the wiki.
[02:39:43] <tokam> i like my eclipse plugins which shows naked girls in menus ;D *joking*
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[02:44:21] <adiamas> looking for a pointer if anyone has a moment.  I have auto complete for strings turned off in the c/c++ perspective, but now if i start a string with a double quote and hit return eclipse is closing the string with a double quote and placing one on the new line as well
[02:44:45] <adiamas> id like to not have _any_ double quotes inserted automatically... but i can't figure out the setting to adjust... suggestions?
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[02:58:35] <evil-sheek> Hi, is there a way --- when I click File --> New --> PHP File --- Which shows you a template --- How do I modify that template?
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[03:03:02] <evil-sheek> nvm, I found it =D
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[03:06:42] <rhk> adiamas: in the window menu, choose preferences. then type "typing" in the search box
[03:06:50] <rhk> look at the entry under C++
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[03:08:31] <adiamas> i have "Strings" unchecked.. but still getting the same behavior
[03:08:59] <adiamas> basically.. i want to type "foobar<CR>
[03:09:09] <adiamas> but i get "foobar"<CR>"
[03:09:52] <adiamas> AHHHH got it
[03:10:02] <adiamas> "in string literals"  wrap autmatically.
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[03:10:13] <adiamas> rhk: ty for the help
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[10:37:23] <alessiofachechi> i'm creating a plugin: how can I modify something of the text content into the text editor page?
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[11:39:07] <lemmy> Does the Egit project run nightly builds?
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[12:29:36] <alessiofachechi> i'm creating a plugin: how can I modify something of the text content into the text editor page?
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[12:55:47] <rcjsuen> lemmy: I don't think they do. I believe zx is helping them with releng but dunno what's going on there.
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[12:56:23] <rcjsuen> alessiofachechi: you'd have to retrieve the editor using IWorkbenchPage for starters, did you get that far?
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[12:57:23] <alessiofachechi> rcjsuen, i'm subclassing xmlmultipageeditorpart then i'm in the editor now
[12:57:54] <rcjsuen> then you just need the document i guess
[12:57:55] <rcjsuen> ~dev-faq
[12:57:56] <Arbalest> Writing Eclipse plug-ins / RCP apps and don't know where to turn? See these FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/RCP_FAQ / Or look at EclipseCon talks/tutorials - http://www.eclipsecon.org/
[12:58:22] <alessiofachechi> i'm creating in a new page an swt interface that write in the xml text of the inherited xml page
[12:58:53] <rcjsuen> You know there's an XML editor from Eclipse.org already, right?
[12:58:56] <alessiofachechi> rcjsuen, i don't find a way to modift the text content in the xml editor page
[12:59:12] <rcjsuen> well, you'd get the document then manipulate it
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[12:59:30] <alessiofachechi> rcjsuen, my class inherit from org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui.internal.tabletree.XMLMultiPageEditorPart
[13:00:01] <rcjsuen> I'll assume you realize that isn't API.
[13:01:00] <alessiofachechi> then i've to use another xml editor?
[13:01:18] <alessiofachechi> (excuse me for my english)
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[13:06:45] <rcjsuen> Well, you can choose to take the risk or find an alternate solution, or implement one yourself.
[13:12:37] <alessiofachechi> rcjsuen, ok.. thanks :)
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[14:32:09] <swente> any recommendations how to get 3rd party jars into an eclipse plugin?
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[14:32:36] <pietia> swente, as a libs?
[14:32:57] <swente> well, i'd like to have eclipse package maven-deps
[14:34:00] <pietia> swente, package mvn deps in eclipse plugin?
[14:34:05] <swente> yes
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[14:42:14] <pietia> swente, i use base plugin that contributes libs for whole project
[14:42:39] <swente> pietia: is it an eclipse or a maven plugin? :)
[14:42:58] <pietia> eclipse
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[14:44:01] <swente> pietia: "contributes libs for whole project" - you mean it includes referenced jars into the plugin?
[14:44:42] <pietia> swente, yes. it's plugin that only includes jars
[14:44:57] <swente> pietia: do you know if it supports mvn-dependencies, too?
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[14:46:35] <swente> (just in case you were not already refering to mvn-deps ;-) )
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[15:30:54] <nailuj24> hi, i lost my menu bar (containing "File", "Edit" and so on). is there any shortcut to get it back?
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[16:58:23] <opensrcguy> Can I create a project inside another project using Eclipse?
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[16:58:46] <opensrcguy> I have been trying to do it with no success
[17:00:08] <d_a_carver> opensrcguy: no, you can't create sub-projects but you may be able to do it with eclipse e4 when that is released.
[17:00:22] <opensrcguy> :-(
[17:00:43] <opensrcguy> is eclipse e4 in beta?
[17:00:57] <nexx> but you can create workingsets
[17:01:10] <nexx> or a workspace inside another workspace
[17:01:12] <opensrcguy> workingsets?
[17:01:17] <d_a_carver> yes...milestone builds are availble.  as nexx sets working sets in most cases accomplishes the same thing.
[17:01:36] <d_a_carver> opensrcguy: http://www.javalobby.org/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=15162
[17:01:38] <nexx> in workingset you can group projects
[17:01:41] <opensrcguy> I will have to research workingsets then
[17:02:15] <opensrcguy> than you guys
[17:02:20] <opensrcguy> and thanks for the link too
[17:02:28] <opensrcguy> I will research workingsets
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[17:15:25] <opensrcguy> oh man workingsets are not pretty
[17:15:37] <opensrcguy> not what I am really looking for
[17:16:18] <opensrcguy> I cannot believe eclipse does not support such a basic functionality
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[17:46:09] <sigmab3ta> hey guys i am using eclipse on ubuntu and am trying to write a program that uses servlets, when i try to import javax.servlet it says the import cannot be resolved, anyone know why that might be
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[17:47:50] <d_a_carver> sigmab3ta: do you have the WTP J2EE plugins installed? Are you using a Dynamic Web Project and have that associated to an application server?
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[17:48:39] <Jubei> guys is there any document that describes step  by step how to import an external java library for use in my project in eclipse?
[17:48:45] <sigmab3ta> it looks like the problem is that i don't have servlet-api.jar. lemme see if i can resolve that
[17:49:30] <d_a_carver> sigmab3ta: if you create a dynamic web project and associate it to server it will add the necessary items.  Or you can add the servlet-api.jar to your classpath yourself.
[17:49:57] <Jubei> coz even though I've imported jmdns I get unresolved type when I try to implement one of it's interfaces
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[17:51:45] <Netrosis> Hi, I used to get Eclipse PDT to run but it doesn't anymore, where would be the best place to get help? (Using Vista)
[17:52:57] <Armon> Hi, recently switched to Eclipse PHP. So far, great. just one annoying thing, autocomplete closes the tags,quotes,brackets. Is there an quick shortcut to skip to after that closing element? atm, i either have to use the arrow keys or type it out anyway which kind of defeats the purpouse
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[17:54:41] <d_a_carver> Jubei: did you add it to the classpath for your project.
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[17:55:22] <Jubei> d_a_carver:  I uhhm... I don't think I did that no. That's why I was asking for a document online so that I can read up on that
[17:55:38] <Jubei> d_a_carver: or perhaps if you'd like you can tell me how ;)
[17:56:00] <d_a_carver> Jubei: might be to basic for you but it's a starting point: http://eclipsetutorial.sourceforge.net/totalbeginner.html
[17:57:13] <d_a_carver> Jubei: right click on your project select Build Path-> Add External JARS
[17:57:27] <Jubei> d_a_carver: thanks, let me try that
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[17:58:27] <Jubei> d_a_carver: that did the trick! Thank you so much!
[17:58:46] <d_a_carver> Netrosis: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
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[17:59:36] <d_a_carver> Armon: check th preferences for the Editor you.  I know with the XML editor you can control the tag completion.  You might be able to do the same with the PHP editor.
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[18:00:57] <Netrosis> d_a_carver, I have tried downloading the latest eclipse PDT and java, but it used to work then one day it just had errors when loading and nothing I try fixes it.
[18:01:20] <Armon> d_a_carver: there are options to disable autocomplte individualy for brackets, tags, etc. I'm after a shortcut which will place curser after the closing tag/bracket so i dont have to move to arrow keys all the time.    i.e.   <script>(cursor here)</script>(move to here)
[18:01:30] <d_a_carver> Netrosis: are you on Ubuntu?
[18:01:42] <Netrosis> Vista
[18:02:07] <d_a_carver> Define errors...ie. ~pastebin
[18:02:08] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[18:03:29] <d_a_carver> Armon: start with these http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_What_editor_keyboard_shortcuts_are_available%3F
[18:04:12] <Armon> d_a_carver: thanks :)
[18:04:16] <d_a_carver> Armon: you can try this PDF as well. http://eclipse-tools.sourceforge.net/Keyboard_shortcuts_(3.0).pdf
[18:05:07] <Netrosis> d_a_carver: this is a copy of the    .metadata/.log   file:   http://pastebin.com/d48099a13
[18:05:27] <Armon> d_a_carver: i've already checked the key cheatsheet inside elipse, coudnt find anything. not even sure what to call such shortcut
[18:06:05] <d_a_carver> Armon: closest I think is CTRL+RIGHT and CTRL+LEFT
[18:06:54] <Armon> d_a_carver: thought so :( but surely people dont move the hand to arrow keys all the time??
[18:07:22] <Netrosis> Armon: Ctrl+Shift+P goes to the closing bracket (if that helps at all)
[18:08:02] <d_a_carver> Netrosis: did you do a java update recently?
[18:08:37] <Netrosis> d_a_carver: yes. Then I uninstalled it and went back to the old Java I had installed, still nothing
[18:08:42] <Armon> Netrosis: Thanks, gonna go try find out how to disable printing which is on the same shortcut
[18:09:25] <d_a_carver> Netrosis: I don't see anything in the log that would cause it to fail, except for the SWT DND issue.
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[18:09:57] <d_a_carver> Netrosis: I don't have VISTA so probably not going to be much help.
[18:10:23] <Armon> Netrosis: nope, that's wrong shortcut aswell, this just toggles between maching brackes, but the cursor has to be next to one to begin with
[18:10:26] <d_a_carver> Armon: You want Key Preferences
[18:11:18] <d_a_carver> Armon: take a look at General->Keys in the preferences setting and you might find something there
[18:11:19] <Netrosis> d_a_carver: thats ok, thanks for the help anyway.
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[18:17:49] <d_a_carver> Netrosis: I found this blog but I don't think it has what you are looking for., http://www.phpchina.com/html/78/78-25714.html
[18:17:57] <d_a_carver> Armon: http://www.phpchina.com/html/78/78-25714.html
[18:18:07] <d_a_carver> Netrosis: sorry that was for Armon
[18:18:10] <Netrosis> :)
[18:18:13] <Armon> d_a_carver: thanks, it's very impressive menu, however coudnt find anything
[18:19:58] <d_a_carver> Armon: if you can't find one, open a bug or you can try asking on the #pdt channel
[18:20:05] <Armon> d_a_carver: nice link, thank you. yet, still no luck
[18:20:53] <Armon> d_a_carver: ok, i will. thanks again for your help :)
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[18:26:28] <cstextiles> i have a file view.ctp. i want to open this file using php editor. How to achieve the same?
[18:28:45] <d_a_carver> cstextiles: add the file extension to the PHP Content Type.  General->Content-Types
[18:30:10] <cstextiles> Thanks for the same. It worked
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[18:57:45] <rcjsuen> opensrcguy: Did you try just making one project and then making another one and point the root folder to a subfolder of the previous project?
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[19:07:16] * swente still wonders how to include 3rd-party-jars/maven dependencies into a plugin project (preferredly in a way that added deps get packaged automatically, regardless if into a separate dependency-bundle or the plugin itself .. but not manually modifying the manifest)
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[19:11:13] <panzi> EMF question: does anyone here by any chance know how to validate a .xmi file using a .ocl file?
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[19:41:33] <d_a_carver> swente: have you tried the m2eclipse project's plugins?
[19:43:02] <swente> d_a_carver: i just have the "ordinary" maven eclipse plugin [sonatype]
[19:44:16] <swente> d_a_carver: oh ic, the same :). well, plugins' dependencies are a bit more tricky - is there some functionality i've missed so far?
[19:47:44] <pietia> anyone using egit ?
[19:48:43] <d_a_carver> pietia: I've played with it.
[19:49:20] <pietia> d_a_carver, is it possible to add git support to multimodule mvn project?
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[19:51:26] <d_a_carver> pietia: not sure... the egit plugin acts like the CVS plugin for eclipse integration, don't think it has maven integration.  Might be a maven plugin for it though.
[19:52:22] <pietia> d_a_carver, i managed only to force git integration on "root" module
[19:52:27] <pietia> fyi
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[20:08:49] <nima0102> which package from http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ should I install so that I can install on that eclipse pydev ???
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[20:11:39] <pietia> nima0102, wtp or classic
[20:11:42] <pietia> er
[20:11:47] <pietia> Java EE or Classic
[20:11:55] <pietia> nima0102, are you webdeveloper?
[20:12:01] <pietia> if yes ,then Java EE
[20:13:48] <nima0102> pietia, no I intend to learning python, already I program in perl or bash .
[20:14:16] <pietia> nima0102, so it doesn't matter which package. i woudl sugest Classic
[20:14:59] <nima0102> pietia,then which package should I install ???
[20:16:37] <pietia> nima0102, are you on linux?
[20:18:35] <nima0102> pietia,then which package should I install ???
[20:18:58] <pietia> nima0102, which one you want to..
[20:19:00] <pietia> Classic
[20:19:03] <pietia> for JAva
[20:19:22] <pietia> anything you want
[20:19:26] <pietia> it doesn't matter
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[20:21:08] <nima0102> pietia,yes
[20:21:14] <nima0102> pietia,debian squeeze .
[20:21:33] <pietia> nima0102, http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/galileo/SR1/eclipse-java-galileo-SR1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[20:22:44] <nima0102> I want to install "Eclipse IDE for Java Developers", is it ok?
[20:23:02] <pietia> yes
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[20:23:30] <nima0102> after installing, is it possible upgrade to another ???
[20:24:31] <julieanne> when i import javax.servlet.*;  i get an error saying that it doesn't exist....and my friend just imported it and it worked for them. anyone have an idea why this is happening?
[20:26:01] <julieanne> nima0102: Eclipse > Preferences > Install/Update
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[20:28:57] <moqq> anyone know if it's possible to make eclipse PDT recognize and hilight php scripts not having a .php extension? (e.g. shell scripts starting with #!/usr/bin/env php\n<?php) the same way vim does..?
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[20:53:08] <[-jon-]_> moqq: why would you do that for a php script anyway
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[21:08:00] <TheAshMan> hi there
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[21:12:37] <Leemp> Is it possible to have Tab auto-complete in Eclipse yet? In the past it wasn't (without destroying the Tab key), but a feature request was opened last year for it.. just wondering if it made it in.
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[21:17:03] <rcjsuen> Haven't heard of it. I wasn't even aware that someone made an enhancement request. Do you have the bug number?
[21:19:08] <TheAshMan> when editing a php file i get an error saying "An internal error occurred during: "Processing Dirty Regions".java.lang.NullPointerException"
[21:20:19] <moqq> [-jon-]_: why would you do it for a perl script?
[21:20:38] <Leemp> rcjsuen: It was a long time ago, so no. They may have been turned down, not sure. I had hoped by now Eclipse would have added it heh. It's hard to go back to not using Tab autocomplete :o
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[21:20:59] <Leemp> Personally, i can't believe it doesn't drive everyone mad _not_ having it hehe.
[21:21:09] <FFForever> how can i make eclipse/pydev stop adding the import statements at the top?
[21:22:03] <moqq> [-jon-]_: really just the same reasons as writing any script that uses a shebang
[21:22:03] <rcjsuen> Leemp: I guess I've always used ctrl+space so never bothered me
[21:22:08] <rcjsuen> maybe if i used another tool that used tab i would become annoyed *shrugs*
[21:22:29] <Leemp> rcjsuen: Well most of them offer both, unlike eclipse :P
[21:22:47] <FFForever> nvm.. *kicks self*
[21:23:11] <Leemp> rcjsuen: It's a design issue with Eclipse, not being able to handle events based on where the user is in source code.
[21:23:27] <Leemp> Important for a source code editor, imo.
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[22:39:28] <Leemp> Is it possible to have auto-complete popup when your typing words out automatically? Eg, if it thinks your typing a variable name, it can pop up and offer the name?
[22:39:51] <Leemp> My other ide will basically complete the word for you, but you can continue typing in case it was wrong.
[22:40:26] <Leemp> (It's funny, given that Eclipse is such a community driven IDE, i had thought it would be fully of usability improvements that made it king)
[22:41:29] <rcjsuen> well, assuming it's easy for the community to implement and attach as patches
[22:41:42] <rcjsuen> as for your question, it's mentioned in the FAQ, see channel topic
[22:41:50] <Leemp> Righto
[22:45:42] <Leemp> rcjsuen: Sorry for the stupid question, but what exactly do you guys call auto complete? It's not in the FAQ, so i assume it
[22:45:55] <Leemp> erm, "so i assume it's under different terminology"
[22:45:56] <rcjsuen> content assist, code completion, areo ther terms
[22:46:03] <Leemp> thanks
[22:46:31] <Leemp> perfect
[22:47:02] <rcjsuen> You can use the workaround if you wish I suppose.
[22:47:33] <Leemp> nah, i'll just have to get used to a few missing things. Apparently i was spoiled :)
[22:47:54] <Leemp> (In a Python IDE, go figure lol)
[22:49:26] <rcjsuen> It's asked about once in a while (as you can imagine, else it wouldn't be in the FAQ) anyway.
[22:49:36] <Leemp> Yea
[22:50:37] <Leemp> I had actually expected to have all of the old things i missed from C++/C# development back, given the type casting and whatnot.
[22:51:07] <Leemp> But WingIDE did an excellent job it seems, better than i had given it credit for
[22:51:15] <Leemp> (Though, i loved it anyway :P)
[22:52:59] <Leemp> Though, i think i'll type "self" vs "this" a few thousand times before i get it right.
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[23:33:40] <Sal`> hello
[23:34:08] <Sal`> is it possible to show my internal browser panel with the codepanels and not at the bottom where the errors are listed?
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