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[00:01:50] <rcjsuen> ma3x: pretty broad, I guess the latter
[00:02:22] <ma3x> the smaller one 92 MB?
[00:02:27] <rcjsuen> right
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[00:35:41] <pingveno> Is it practical to use git via the command line for an Eclipse project?
[00:35:48] <pingveno> Like, solely through the command line.
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[00:36:01] <pingveno> I have an older version of Eclipse that won't work with EGit.
[00:38:29] <rcjsuen> I presume so. AN SCM system is built before the SCM plug-in is built usually. ;)
[00:38:44] <pingveno> True
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[00:49:10] <Poundo> anyone have experience setting up remote debugging from PDT to zend debugger
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[01:13:33] <Kuprin> Hey guys, I just installed 3.5.1 on Debian Lenny under the latest sun JRE, and I'm getting a lot of weird UI display errors. This happened on my last Mint system too (for example menu selections such as the install new software menu don't appear, buttons need to be selected then Enter pushed to use them, etc)
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[01:15:16] <rcjsuen> Kuprin: see faq in channel topic
[01:15:38] <rhk> Kuprin: are you using the GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS hack?
[01:16:05] <Kuprin> rhk, not currently no, that sounds familiar.
[01:16:58] <rhk> it's in that FAQ :)
[01:22:13] <Kuprin> rhk: that works, thanks guys
[01:23:13] <rhk> as you might expect, it's in the FAQ now because it has been frequently asked :)
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[01:24:50] <Kuprin> yeah, seems like a very common bug
[01:25:47] <rcjsuen> at least once a day :)
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[02:04:49] <w0lfshad3> how do i control in eclipse the way xml-like code is formatted?
[02:05:06] <w0lfshad3> having trouble with the formatter doing html + JSP/struts2
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[02:38:58] <jenia_> is anyone here familiar with aspectJ
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[02:39:17] <jenia_> if so, do you know how to capture a function (in a pointcut)
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[04:06:34] <alert> does eclipse has a good gui editor for java ?
[04:06:37] <alert> have
[04:06:48] <alert> and is it better than the one in netbeans
[04:07:11] <rcjsuen> ~java-gui
[04:07:11] <Arbalest> Looking for a Java GUI designer plug-in for Eclipse? Go take a look at the *free* Visual Editor (http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE), Visual Swing for Eclipse (http://code.google.com/p/visualswing4eclipse/), Instantiations' *commercial* WindowBuilder (http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilderpro/), and/or Jigloo (http://www.cloudgarden.com/jigloo/) , which is *free for non-commercial use*.
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[04:11:31] <ahoymatey> hey
[04:12:19] <ahoymatey> question... about max osx and galileo.  i have yagarto installed, and the path works, i can get to it via terminal.  i pointed to it in the make file, and in the project properties, but when i try to compile it says arm-elf-gcc not found
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[05:03:41] <sinein> can someone please help me with installing the net snmp perl module for eclipse?
[05:03:59] <sinein> I believe I have installed the module itself but I don't understand how to enable it within eclipse
[05:07:11] <ahoymatey> nobody is active in here
[05:08:37] <sinein> ahoymatey: are there any active perl channels..>?
[05:08:56] <ahoymatey> to be honest, i have no idea
[05:08:56] <sinein> I mean eclipse
[05:09:07] <sinein> ok, thanks
[05:09:18] <ahoymatey> i'm 2 days into eclipse
[05:16:38] <rhk> I think for most people here it is getting late in the evening :)
[05:17:07] <rhk> or maybe it's early morning
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[05:19:17] <ahoymatey> haha
[05:19:47] <rhk> grr. pulling the source for njbartlett 's bundle monitor is going to make me install a git plug-in
[05:19:58] <rhk> I'm just a night-owl
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[05:21:36] <ahoymatey> you have any inpur on my issue?
[05:21:46] <ahoymatey> about max osx and galileo.  i have yagarto installed, and the path works, i can get to it via terminal.  i pointed to it in the make file, and in the project properties, but when i try to compile it says arm-elf-gcc not found
[05:21:48] <ahoymatey> mac*
[05:22:10] <rhk> I don't even know what yagarto is
[05:22:27] <rhk> sorry
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[05:31:37] <ahoymatey> it's an arm toolchain
[05:31:42] <ahoymatey> think of it as gcc, because that's what it is
[05:32:00] <ahoymatey> it's just a pre-built package for arm
[05:32:47] <ahoymatey> tool-chain
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[07:08:52] <b2bwild> How can i get a interactive python console in eclipse?
[07:09:28] <deSilva> click on the console menu
[07:10:24] <deSilva> and select Pydev console (I assume you are using pydev)
[07:10:43] <b2bwild> got it, thanks
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[09:31:15] <palimondo> Where should I ask Jetty 7 questions?
[09:31:21] <palimondo> Hi there ;-)
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[10:28:57] <atke> In my IStartup.earlyStartup() I start three jobs who all access preferences via Platform.getPreferencesService().getXxx. The problem is that as the threads access pref service concurrently, the actual pref getter sometimes returns null even if the preference exists. I couldn't find anything about thread safety issues with pref service with little googling or in documentation. What's going on here?
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[11:08:29] <Anu> I have logging.prop file in the exported product location (which contains plugins,features, configuration,workspace etc folders ). How do I access the file in my code?
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[11:24:05] <philk__> njbartlett: is it a good idea to put all kind of informations into a services properties? I have a mobile device service that could provide informations about the devices battery type, running os etc
[11:24:26] <philk__> njbartlett: or is this better put into the services getInfo() method?
[11:25:03] <njbartlett> philk__: Well, are you going to filter on those properties? Or does it make sense for a client to get those properties without getting your actual service?
[11:25:58] <njbartlett> philk__: Better to put things on the service properties than in a getInfo() method on the service itself, because that pollutes the service interface and also it requires the service to be fully instantiated and bound by a client in order
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[11:29:53] <philk__> njbartlett: thats what I mean... the instantiation would not be neccessary if i put the infos in the service properties. One could also filter on those properties then
[11:30:26] <njbartlett> philk__: Yes
[11:30:31] <philk__> njbartlett: I just rarely see complex service properties in the Eclipse services.
[11:31:12] <njbartlett> philk__: What do you mean by complex? Service properties don't really support complex data types... just strings and primitives and arrays
[11:31:27] <philk__> njbartlett: I am currently working on a new Tutorial about OSGi services... and I wonder. Does OSGi support l10n of service properties? Eclipse does for the Manifest, but do DS support it too?
[11:32:25] <njbartlett> philk__: No
[11:32:31] <philk__> njbartlett: by complex I mean some properties at all. Most services do not have any properties. And often you have such methods like getInfo() to query the service for static information. I guess, when I register the service programmatically I could even change its properties during runtime
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[11:33:05] <njbartlett> philk__: Yes, the programmatic API lets you change service properties while that service remains registered
[11:33:05] <philk__> njbartlett: btw, your bundle monitor gets into an infinit loop when I select "show filter" in the bundles view
[11:33:43] <njbartlett> philk__: Hmm really? Could you write me a bug report? http://neilbartlett.name/mantis
[11:33:48] <philk__> njbartlett: But I could not use the ComponentContext to change the services dictionary, as its read only
[11:33:55] <philk__> njbartlett: sure, will file a bug report... just a sec
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[11:39:47] <philk__> njbartlett: lol! Look what happened
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[11:40:32] <philk__> njbartlett: http://pastebin.com/m674dca3b
[11:40:48] <njbartlett> philk__: Yes I just discovered that too. Trying to fix now
[11:41:13] <philk__> njbartlett: maybe its because I cannot select a category (no entries in the list)
[11:45:29] <njbartlett> philk__: I think it's fixed now, could you try it for me?
[11:47:00] <philk__> njbartlett: sure, works now
[11:47:48] <philk__> njbartlett: hmm... seems like the other 2 times i tried to submit and got an error page also made it into the database
[11:48:06] <njbartlett> philk__: Yeah I see that... never mind, thanks for your help
[11:49:34] <philk__> njbartlett: you are welcome!
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[12:05:19] <njbartlett> philk__: This bug happens on Eclipse 3.4 is that right?
[12:06:11] <philk__> njbartlett: I am running 3.6 I-build here
[12:06:26] <njbartlett> philk__: Ah. Because I can't reproduce on 3.5
[12:06:36] <njbartlett> philk__: Will try 3.6M3
[12:06:55] <philk__> I am on Version: 3.6.0 Build id: I20091124-0800
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[12:17:10] <njbartlett> philk__: Can't reproduce with 3.6M4
[12:17:17] <njbartlett> philk__: Sorry, I mean 3.6M3
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[12:26:06] <philk__> njbartlett: I am running on the I-Build... maybe something in JFace has changed?
[12:26:28] <njbartlett> philk__: Trying ibuild now
[12:27:11] <philk__> njbartlett: how do you update to an ibuild? Do you use the update manager and update an existing build or pull a fresh one from the website (using p2)?
[12:28:03] <njbartlett> philk__: Well I'm launching from PDE, so I change my target platform
[12:29:27] <Stefa1> hi there, I've got a pretty strange question: is it possible to open the java editor not for a complete file, but e.g. just for a method in a class?
[12:29:32] <njbartlett> philk__: Can't reproduce in I20091201
[12:29:40] <philk__> njbartlett: and how do you get the new target platform?
[12:30:09] <philk__> njbartlett: ok, I update to the newest Ibuild then. So whats the best strategy to do that?
[12:30:46] <philk__> njbartlett: normally i would use help->update
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[12:40:17] <njbartlett> philk__: I just downloaded it as a new tarball
[12:42:17] <philk__> njbartlett: and then unpacked and point your targetplatform to it?
[12:42:30] <njbartlett> philk__: Exactly
[12:42:42] <philk__> njbartlett: seems easy to do... I will try :)
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[13:23:10] <philk__> can I use the filetime of a bundle resource and compare it to an external file, to find out if they differ? Or will OSGi change the files "written" timestamp when it unpacks the file from the bundle to its temp space?
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[13:37:49] <rcjsuen> palimondo: There may be a Jetty section in the ~forums
[13:37:49] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
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[13:41:56] <pietia> why all wizard doesn't work in eclipse ??
[13:42:03] <pietia> er,wizards
[13:42:12] <pietia> er,dont :)
[13:42:48] <pietia> some config are broken ?
[13:43:08] <pietia> all eclipe distributions on my disk have broken wizards now :|
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[13:45:31] <rcjsuen> pietia: Broken as in?
[13:45:42] <rcjsuen> That's a rather broad and vague statement.
[13:46:03] <pietia> rcjsuen, i cant even generate new project
[13:46:21] <rcjsuen> pietia: You'll have to get more specific than that.
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[13:46:29] <pietia> i click on "next" or "finish" and nothing happens :)
[13:46:35] <rcjsuen> pietia: Use the keyboard?
[13:47:21] <pietia> rcjsuen, i click on EJB project -> export -> ejb -> inserting name of file -> finish -> NOTHING
[13:47:44] <rcjsuen> And what if you use the keyboard instead? You mentioned "clicking", which I presume means the mouse.
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[13:49:09] <pietia> rcjsuen, works :| but what was that ??
[13:49:33] <rcjsuen> pietia: If you mean why does the mouse not work, see FAQ in channel topic.
[13:49:55] <pietia> rcjsuen,thanks
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[13:50:33] <rcjsuen> Guess we've reached our daily census of someone hitting that problem, *makes a check mark*.
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[13:51:35] <ecfuser39776> hi all
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[13:52:38] <pietia> rcjsuen, :)
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[14:14:32] <deSilva^^> rcjsuen: soon all possible permutations of that question will have been exhausted too
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[14:38:56] <Poundo> I am on a mac and this page http://docs.aptana.com/docs/index.php/Basic_PHP_Debugging shows a path to setting preferences for the Studio debugger but I don't have that path under Aptana?
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[15:17:46] <rcjsuen> Poundo: You could maybe try #aptana or Aptana's forums.
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[15:18:55] <Poundo> rcjsuen: thanks I did no activity there so far :)
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[15:40:18] <philk_> can I use the filetime of a bundle resource and compare it to an external file, to find out if they differ? Or will OSGi change the files "written" timestamp when it unpacks the file from the bundle to its temp space?
[15:41:46] <magnet_> mtime depends on your filesystem, so I believe you can't use it
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[15:50:29] <magnet_> btw philk_, is your program an Eclipse RCP application? If so, how did you wire your DS components to your views?
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[15:51:50] <philk_> magnet: Yes, its an RCP app. I use ServiceTrackers
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[15:52:12] <magnet_> philk_, in your bundle activators?
[15:52:30] <philk_> magnet: No, whenever I need a service in a view
[15:54:41] <magnet_> philk_, how do you retrieve the BundleContext?
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[15:57:22] <philk_> magnet_: using FrameworkUtil.getBundle()
[15:57:55] <magnet_> philk_, ok, thanks; so actually there's no DS on the RCP side of your app, right?
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[15:59:57] <philk_> magnet_: yes there is. I am using DS to get my services started. But inside the Eclipse domain (Views) I am using ServiceTrackers to get hold of services. Also sometimes plain context.getServiceReferences()
[16:00:19] <philk_> magnet_ I havent this checked out yet,  http://github.com/njbartlett/Extensions2Services
[16:00:40] <philk_> magnet_ might be good to bridge Extensions with services (with injection)
[16:02:50] <magnet_> niceeeeee
[16:02:56] <magnet_> that's what I was looking for :).
[16:03:38] <magnet_> I'd like to keep the best of both worlds, I use DS to avoid  retrieving services programmatically so it's sad to have to use trackers in my views
[16:03:48] <magnet_> I'll look into that project
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[16:05:45] <rhk> couldn't you define a service that consumes the target service that that view needs, then when it binds to the target service, have it store it someplace static so your view could get to it?
[16:06:53] <magnet_> yes, but I want to avoid anything static
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[16:07:39] <styx_> Hi! How can delete not used URL locations in subclipse?
[16:08:23] <philk_> rhk: storing something static is not very dynamic, is it`?
[16:10:04] <philk_> btw: lets say I have a bunch of DS that all use a command base class. The base class has a bindSomeService method to dynamically bind a service ref. Now, you have to declare that binding on each of your DS :( If you forget to do that, the base classes member that holds the service will be null
[16:10:24] <rhk> philk_: it's a trade off. removing the direct dependency against osgi at the expense of having a singleton for storage
[16:10:25] <philk_> I wonder if there is some mechanism in DS where you could somehow "inherit" references to services
[16:10:26] <paulweb515> styx_: doesn't subclipse have a repository exploring view?  Wouldn't you do that there?
[16:11:51] <styx_> no i cant find this in this view
[16:12:35] <philk_> so for now each DS has to declare this binding and if you forget it, you are screwed... hmmm
[16:12:55] <philk_> I would rather have something like: thats the binding. And thats the properties, create a new service
[16:13:02] <paulweb515> styx_: they don't have a repo-exploring view?  that doesn't sound correct
[16:13:16] <philk_> paulweb515: sure, svn has explorer views
[16:13:21] <philk_> i have it open right now
[16:13:47] <rcjsuen> philk_: well, styx_ is claiming he/she can't remove entries it seems
[16:13:50] <styx_> the svn exploring view of eclipse just issn helpful
[16:14:06] <rcjsuen> in CVS i can just hit the 'Delete' key and remove them
[16:14:07] <paulweb515> styx_: you can't right click on a repo and remove it?
[16:14:18] <styx_> no thats the problem :-)
[16:14:31] <rcjsuen> It was fine for me when I used it last yr
[16:14:38] <rcjsuen> I wouldn't imagine it's degraded to "you can't delete" but maybe yes.
[16:14:44] <styx_> rcjsuen, this isnt working also
[16:15:23] <paulweb515> styx_: anything in your error log?  ~logs
[16:15:23] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[16:17:00] <styx_> for what am i searching in the error logs?
[16:18:02] <rcjsuen> entries in the last 5-10 minutes reporting errors indicating the delete key not working I suppose
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[16:19:30] <rcjsuen> (or something of that nature)
[16:20:29] <styx_> Norm, no errors today :-)
[16:20:32] <styx_> *No
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[16:21:08] <Norm> thanks, let me know if you have errors tommorow
[16:21:29] <styx_> sorry norm ;-)
[16:21:45] <Norm> hehe, it happens all the time... my IRC program makes a little chirp
[16:22:32] <onre> i used to get lots of same on #javascript... they were talking of xhr onreadystatechange event a lot :p
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[16:59:39] <Leemp> What controls the default run/debug configuration when you just click the run/debug option? It continually chooses a different option than i want, so i always have to click the dropdown to select the correct one.
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[17:01:10] <nitind> Leemp: A preference on the Launching preference page, under Run/Debug.
[17:01:26] <Leemp> thanks
[17:01:35] <rcjsuen> ~contextual-launching
[17:01:36] <Arbalest> Having problems with Eclipse 3.3 and up not launching whatever you just launched when you hit the keybinding? You probably contextual launchin set - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Why_is_Eclipse_launching_the_current_file_I_have_open_instead_of_whatever_I_last_launched.3F
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[17:23:25] <enrique> hello. I cannot install extensions. Running eclipse galileo (latest) on ubuntu 9.10 (latest). Pressing the [next] button after selecting package to install does nothing.
[17:24:45] <enrique> anyone has this setup working?
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[17:25:12] <incastrix-hl> enrique: and with KB?
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[17:27:04] <enrique> incastrix-hl, sorry, KB?
[17:28:02] <incastrix-hl> enrique: with keyboard
[17:28:10] <enrique> WOW
[17:28:14] <enrique> it DOES work
[17:28:18] <enrique> THANKS
[17:28:27] <enrique> I should have asked 5 hours ago :)
[17:28:31] <enrique> incastrix-hl, thanks
[17:28:40] <incastrix-hl> keyboard: is button selected?
[17:28:43] <enrique> will I have other click problems?
[17:28:57] <enrique> when clicking, no
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[17:29:11] <enrique> ah yes it is
[17:29:13] <enrique> but no action
[17:29:31] <enrique> going to to button with TAB then ENTER does the trick
[17:29:39] <incastrix-hl> i've similar problem but resolve it pressing enter
[17:29:52] <enrique> amazing :)
[17:31:42] <incastrix-hl> enrique: java ver?
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[17:32:21] <enrique> 1.6.0_15-b03
[17:32:28] <enrique> installed from repos
[17:34:02] <incastrix-hl>  sun?
[17:35:22] <enrique> repo package name is sun-java6-jre, so I guess yes
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[17:37:21] <enrique> what I don't undestand now is that only *some* buttons don't work with mouse
[17:38:06] <incastrix-hl> enrique: maybe a problem with GTK
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[17:38:55] * incastrix-hl bbl
[17:38:56] <nitind> May be the GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS problem in the channel faq.
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[17:40:02] <nitind> ~291257
[17:40:04] <Arbalest> Bug 291257 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=291257 - Platform / SWT / 3.5.1 - PC / Linux - NEW / major / - Assignee: gheorghe - [Widgets] Buttons functionality problem with GTK+ 2.18
[17:41:14] <enrique> indeed it can be that, I test right now
[17:42:38] <sharperguy> I'm not sure if I'm just somehow using an old version of java or something (I wasn't before re-installing eclipse) but for some reason there seems to be no java.util.Scanner, even though java.util is there.
[17:42:41] <enrique> nitind, Arbalest incastrix-hl: yes it was that
[17:42:51] <enrique> thanks a lot
[17:43:17] <rcjsuen> sharperguy: That's a class introduced in Java 5.
[17:43:24] <rcjsuen> If you have an older ver...then it won't be found.
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[17:43:33] <rcjsuen> or was it Java 6, I think 5
[17:43:55] <incastrix-hl>  rcjsuen: i use 5
[17:43:56] <sharperguy> That's what I thought. I've definitely got the latest version installed though, maybe eclipse isn't finding it.
[17:44:22] <rcjsuen> N oproblems here.
[17:44:56] <sharperguy> The JRE is java-1.5
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[17:45:29] <rcjsuen> I see TodC's article has gone live http://www.eclipse.org/articles/article.php?file=Article-Accessibility351/index.html
[17:47:00] <incastrix-hl> like web pages accessibility
[17:47:37] <sharperguy> java -version gives me "1.5" libgcj
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[17:48:19] <alankila> gcj = argh.
[17:48:30] <alankila> get rid of it.
[17:48:42] <sharperguy> Yeah I'm having trouble getting it installed properly on ubuntu
[17:48:46] <mbana> am i missing something or is there pinning of a window in eclipse like there is in visual studio?
[17:49:05] <mbana> pinning of a tab
[17:49:11] <incastrix-hl> sharperguy: use sun packages
[17:49:22] <sharperguy> It says I have them
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[17:50:28] <sharperguy> I seem to have both, I'll get rid of jcg
[17:50:58] <alankila> apt-get remove libgcj-common probably
[17:51:10] <alankila> I think everything gcj depended on that, so just kill that and the problem goes away
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[17:53:26] <sharperguy> That seems to have worked although I haven't tried running anything yet
[17:53:45] <alankila> test with dpkg -l|grep gcj
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[17:54:13] <alankila> if that gcj purge missed something, be sure to remove whatever was left.
[17:54:28] <sharperguy> Ah
[17:54:31] <sharperguy> still a lot apparently
[17:54:44] <alankila> damn. I thought the libgcj-common was at the root of the gcj dependency tree.
[17:55:09] <alankila> how about libgcj10 or which one do you have?
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[17:55:40] <sharperguy> Nah it seems to be, I think i've removed the wrong thing initially
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[17:55:56] <rcjsuen> You could alternatively just make sure Eclipse is started with your Sun JRE and only have the Sun JRE listed in your workspace settings. That should probably resolve the Eclipse-based problem anyway.
[17:56:11] <alankila> true, but it's basic prudence to get rid of gcj.
[17:56:22] <alankila> a war must be waged until it no longer exists.
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[17:57:13] <sharperguy> Right I'm assuming it must be using sun now
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[18:20:48] <jtheuer> Hi, how can I find an eclipse update site (3.5) for junit4?
[18:20:59] <jtheuer> I'm missing the org.junit4 plugin
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[18:26:04] <Echidna> what's better practice, refreshing a view within a perspective in the ShowPerspective handler or in a perspective listener?
[18:27:00] <rcjsuen> Probably the latter. Though views usually aren't tied to perspectives.
[18:28:23] <Echidna> ok
[18:29:31] <Echidna> rcjsuen: i have a call to handlerService.executeCommand("org.eclipse.ui.ToggleCoolbarAction", null); in ApplicationWorkbenchWindowAdvisor.postWindowOpen()
[18:29:36] <Echidna> which works fine in windows
[18:29:47] <Echidna> but in ubuntu, the command isnt enabled yet at that point
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[18:30:01] <Echidna> i need to toggle the coolbar when the app is first started, though
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[20:02:34] <_tydeas_> hello when i try to export a Runnable jar i get this errors >>> http://pastebin.com/d1563fcc8
[20:03:07] <_tydeas_> why is that?
[20:04:12] <rcjsuen> maybe some F5 refreshes or cleans are in order
[20:04:17] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: is it supposed to be a plugin?
[20:04:29] <paulweb515> also yes, F5 to refresh your project :-)
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[20:05:25] <_tydeas_> thanks
[20:06:01] <rcjsuen> exporting a plug-in...as a runnable jar?
[20:06:06] <rcjsuen> Seems like a trainwreck that has happened.
[20:07:25] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: if it is a plugin (as opposed to a simple java project) then what are you trying to do, exactly?  File>Export...>Deployable Plug-ins and Fragments will generate  a plugin jar
[20:08:03] <_tydeas_> i have a simple java code that want to make to jar
[20:08:18] <_tydeas_> of course i have some lib dependencies so it can run
[20:08:33] <_tydeas_> i have exported but now i get exceptions when i try to execute it
[20:08:42] <_tydeas_> as `java -jar name.jar`
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[20:10:18] <jtheuer> Hi, how di I install junit4 ? i cannot run junit4 tests in eclipse currently
[20:10:22] <_tydeas_> take a look please >> http://pastebin.com/d2b4dab1d
[20:10:24] <jtheuer> is there an update site?
[20:10:59] <rcjsuen> jtheuer: A JUnit 4 jar should've came with your Eclipse installation.
[20:11:58] <_tydeas_> what should i do?
[20:12:06] <_tydeas_> export an ant script?
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[20:13:06] <jtheuer> rcjsuen: It already took me one hour, but there must be something broken: java.lang.NullPointerException at org.eclipse.jdt.junit.launcher.JUnitLaunchConfigurationDelegate$ClasspathLocalizer.localURL(JUnitLaunchConfigurationDelegate.java:439)
[20:13:15] <jtheuer> when running junit4 tests.
[20:13:24] <rcjsuen> That sounds like a bug in JDT rather than a JUnit bug.
[20:13:31] <rcjsuen> So I'm not sure if getting a new JUnit jar would necessarily help.
[20:13:35] <jtheuer> I have a fresh eclipse from yoxos - but no clue what is missing
[20:13:51] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: why would it work ... how did you define your Class-Path header in your jar's MANIFEST.MF?
[20:13:54] <jtheuer> a fresh eclipse from eclipse.org works
[20:14:35] <_tydeas_> paulweb515: how to check?
[20:14:52] <_tydeas_> <- newbe
[20:15:04] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: then how did you get even this far?
[20:15:06] <rcjsuen> Then it's best to take it up with the Yoxos folks. Perhaps one of their bundles are incorrect.
[20:15:16] <_tydeas_> :)
[20:15:26] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: you need to figure out what you need to run your program, and then tell eclipse how to set it up ...
[20:15:42] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: so what do you need to run your program?
[20:15:48] <_tydeas_> the libs i need are in the jar
[20:16:27] <_tydeas_> no they are not
[20:16:40] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: java will not run jars within jars
[20:16:55] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: from javabot: The classpath tells Java or the compiler in which jar files and folders to look for classes and resources. Use the -cp/-classpath run-time options to specify the classpath. Also see http://is.gd/j4gM [sun.com] for more info.
[20:17:47] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: how did you write your code, anyway?
[20:17:54] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: who set up your eclipse java project?
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[20:19:33] <_tydeas_> so if i  have my libs in a folder /lib in the same folder with the jar i then have to `java -cp lib/1.jar:lib/2.jar:lib/etc myJar.jar` ?
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[20:20:34] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: yes, if you are going to specify the class as well:  com.example.MyMainClass
[20:23:20] <_tydeas_> like this: java -cp lib/asm-3.2.jar:lib/datanucleus-core-1.1.6.jar:lib/datanucleus-db4o-1.1.2.jar:lib/db4o-7.4.121.14026-java5.jar:lib/jdo2-api-2.3-eb.jar:collegeEntities/CollegeMain.class -jar CollegeJDO.jar
[20:23:22] <_tydeas_> ?
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[20:23:51] <_tydeas_> get same exceptions
[20:24:06] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: no, -cp and -jar are mutually exclusive options
[20:24:28] <_tydeas_> so keep -cp remove -jar
[20:24:30] <_tydeas_> ?
[20:24:45] <paulweb515> your cp would contain CollegeJDO,jar and your CLI would probably have collegeEntities.CollegeMain
[20:25:21] <_tydeas_> didn't understood
[20:26:16] <paulweb515> yes, get rid of -jar
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[20:26:57] <paulweb515> then consider ... your -cp should have your list of jars that contain your code, and the last argument is the class to launch
[20:27:54] <_tydeas_> should the -cp contain the i have exported?
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[20:29:17] <paulweb515> jar
[20:29:18] <paulweb515> yes
[20:29:46] <_tydeas_> so: java -cp lib/asm-3.2.jar:lib/datanucleus-core-1.1.6.jar:lib/datanucleus-db4o-1.1.2.jar:lib/db4o-7.4.121.14026-java5.jar:lib/jdo2-api-2.3-eb.jar:./CollegeJDO.jar:collegeEntities.CollegeMain wont work either
[20:29:51] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/deployment/jar/
[20:30:02] <paulweb515> no, of course it won't
[20:30:57] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: I would read "Using JAR Files: The Basics" ...
[20:31:51] <_tydeas_> ok
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[20:32:31] <javahorn> hello
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[20:32:52] <javahorn> i need help on myeclipse setting for hibernate
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[20:41:12] <_tydeas_> paulweb515: http://pastebin.com/d3bc1d14f
[20:41:46] <_tydeas_> this is how i set my MANIFEST.MF file in jar CollegeJDO.jar
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[20:42:47] <watr> I am trying to install a plug-in in eclipse under kubuntu and it is not working...can someone help?
[20:42:52] <_tydeas_> but when i `java -jar CollegeJDO.jar` get same errors
[20:42:55] <watr> The plugin is amateras
[20:44:31] <rcjsuen> watr: I don't use Ubuntu but saying "it is not working" is not very descriptive.
[20:44:45] <rcjsuen> You may get better mileage if you elaborated more.
[20:45:31] <watr> rjsuen: I want to make sure someone is willing to help first...
[20:45:50] <rhk> heh. like it works that way :)
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[20:46:12] <watr> rcjsuen: the problem is when I put the .jar file in the eclipse/plugins folder, and restart eclipse, it doesn't recognize it
[20:46:24] <_tydeas_> paulweb515: I think u wont help any more.ok
[20:46:48] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: why?
[20:46:50] <mwolf91> I am getting this error whenever i do a Ctrl-Space on a class http://pastebin.com/m35f236fc. Anyone know how to fix this?
[20:46:51] <rcjsuen> watr: It's always better to just ask the question first. We're all very lazy...or I am lazy anyway. ;)
[20:46:59] <watr> rcjsuen: I have tried chmoding it to give it rwx for all users, but still no luck. I have even tried doing all of this as su
[20:47:03] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: BTW ... did you get it running with -cp?
[20:47:11] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: if not, then writing a MANIFEST.MF is useless
[20:47:15] <rcjsuen> watr: What version of Eclipse are you on anyway
[20:47:20] <paulweb515> (it's really just a shorthand for the -cp line )
[20:47:32] <_tydeas_> you mean `java -cp collegeEntities.CollegeMain` ?
[20:48:22] <watr> rcjsuen: its v 3.5.1
[20:48:22] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: yes, except correctly
[20:48:29] <_tydeas_> when i `java -cp CollegeJDO.jar collegeEntities.CollegeMain` ?
[20:48:39] <rcjsuen> watr: you may want to read the ~dropins wiki page, that method might work for you
[20:48:39] <Arbalest> To learn about how to use the dropins/ folder provided by p2, see here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Getting_Started#Dropins
[20:49:00] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: I mean "if you cannot get your program to launch using java -cp <path> <mainClass> then a MANIFEST.MF is useless to you"
[20:49:12] <_tydeas_> when i `java -cp CollegeJDO.jar collegeEntities.CollegeMain` i get the same exceptions
[20:49:34] <_tydeas_> http://pastebin.com/d2b4dab1d
[20:50:05] <watr> thanks for the link, I will check it out right now
[20:50:53] <_tydeas_> ok
[20:50:56] <_tydeas_> thanks
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[20:53:53] <paulweb515> _tydeas_: so try adding those other jars back to your -cp ...
[20:54:01] <paulweb515> Not just your CollegeJDO.jar
[20:54:36] <_tydeas_> yes i did it
[20:54:37] <_tydeas_> thanks
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[20:57:10] <watr> rcjsuen: That worked great!!  Thanks a lot!!    I was ready to pull my hair out hahaha...I am really happy eclipse introduced this dropins method...much prefer it to the plugins drop method
[20:58:15] <rcjsuen> okilydokily
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[21:02:58] <rado1> how do I get Eclipse Monkey for galileo?
[21:03:10] <rado1> supposedly it's also called dash
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[21:08:16] <nitind> The Monkey project was closed and archived well over a year ago.  I think some adopters like Aptana still provide it, but no one stepped up to actually work on it at Eclipse.org and keep it going.
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[21:10:26] <Poundo> how do I refer to include files like include '/usr/share/php/MDB2.php'; when I am doing remote debugging. It errors out like "require_once() [<a href='function.require'>function.require</a>]: Failed  ...."
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[21:25:50] <_tydeas_> how can i ste JVM arguments in eclipse
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[21:32:21] <nitind> _tydeas_: Set them for what?
[21:35:36] <_tydeas_> sorry no arguments but parameters. I want to set -Dlog4j.configuration=file:log4j.properties
[21:36:34] <nitind> _tydeas_: Still not a complete question.  Set them as parameters for when you're doing what?
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[21:41:44] <_tydeas_> running a jar
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[21:42:55] <tokam> hello, do i get help here developing eclipse plugins?
[21:42:57] <rcjsuen> seems kind of odd to run a jar from eclipse
[21:43:04] <rcjsuen> you'd do it in the launch config anyway
[21:43:11] <rcjsuen> tokam: Yes, both user and developer questions go here.
[21:43:14] <rcjsuen> or the ~forums
[21:43:15] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[21:44:14] <tokam> at the moment my menucontribution is using this locationUri locationURI="popup:org.eclipse.ui.popup.any" it appears in every menu.
[21:44:42] <tokam> I only want it when something is selected, either a text in any editor, or ... a package or a file in the package explorer
[21:45:06] <tokam> what do i have to change, at the moment it does not appear in the xml editor
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[22:03:24] <Poundo> anyone know if I have to set zend_debugger.remote_port in the php.ini on the remote linux server?
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[22:06:47] <ptech> hey all slightly off-topic but what do you guys suggest as a subversion repository directory structure when using the svn plugin for esclipe? The project is a PHP project that automatically checks out into the web root (and dev web root) upon commit.
[22:08:18] <tokam> Is it possible to tell eclipse that my menucontribution should only be shown in an editor when text is marked?
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[22:10:25] <rado1> nitind: bummer, the Monkey project seemed great
[22:11:32] <tokam> probably i shold work with a visible when statement
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[22:17:36] <tokam> rcjsuen: why do not i get an answer? I would like to have my menucontribution only visible when either text or an Iresource is selected (marked), but if there is no text selected (0 characters) my menu is visible as well. http://pastebin.de/3449
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[22:24:35] <rcjsuen> tokam: well a text selection can be of length 0 i think
[22:24:52] <rcjsuen> if no one answers it probably means no one knows the answer :o
[22:25:07] <rcjsuen> I'm not really familiar with menu contributions msyself.
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[22:28:18] <gabbah> ubuntu:  i downloaded eclipse 3.6M2, but it contains an eclipse file that is an executable, but it will not run when i execute it, it says permission denied, even after i chmod +x it or run it with sudo... how can i start eclipse?
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[22:33:09] <rcjsuen> gabbah: I've not heard of that problem. Did you verify the checksum?
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[22:37:03] <nitind> gabbah: Are you on a partition mounted as noexec?
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[22:40:44] <gabbah> i downloaded both M3 and M2, both with the same problem
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[22:40:53] <gabbah> ah
[22:40:59] <gabbah> yes that might be it actually
[22:41:07] <gabbah> i'll move it and try again
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[22:48:09] <diogo_79> hi
[22:49:30] <diogo_79> guys is possible in cdt to debug a console application that runs from the command line of dos?
[22:50:35] <diogo_79> i am asking this because my console applications use the console from cdt and i want to use the command line of dos?
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[22:50:56] <diogo_79> and eclipse cdt
[22:51:32] <diogo_79> with MinGW + GDB + MYSys
[22:51:44] <diogo_79> msys i mean
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[23:02:15] <rkavalap_> hey, does anyone use c/c++ perspective over here ?
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[23:06:41] <pietia> do you know any free email client based on eclipse rcp  or PIM/TODO software??
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[23:07:08] <dilton> diogo_79 when i need to debug a C app run from the command line I have created an empty project which lets me set up a Run/Debug Configuration, when I run that I get a dialog of the runnnig procs and I pick mine then start debugging
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[23:09:20] <nitind> pietia: Not email, no (and do people really want one?), but for todos, you could try Mylyn.
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[23:10:22] <pietia> nitind, rssowl looks great
[23:10:46] <rcjsuen> i believe you can check your gmail with tasktop
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[23:12:33] <pietia> myly can work in offline mode ?
[23:12:48] <pietia> i mean ,does it only work in client/server mode?
[23:13:08] <rcjsuen> you can make arbitrary tasks with mylyn, so yes
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[23:14:32] <pietia> oh,and i can connect mylyn with jira...
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[23:25:10] <d_a_carver> pietia: yes you can connect with jira.  You synch get your tasks, work offline, and then resynch to updat your tasks.
[23:25:25] <pietia> great
[23:26:12] <pietia> d_a_carver, has mylyn other connectors ? rcjsuen mentioned about tasktop but it's not free :(
[23:26:24] <rcjsuen> bugzilla, trac
[23:26:30] <rcjsuen> mantis, and some others
[23:26:31] <d_a_carver> pietia: yes...check this link out, http://live.eclipse.org/node/573
[23:26:48] <d_a_carver> pietia: it'll give you a good overview.
[23:26:56] <pietia> thanks! :)
[23:27:07] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: yeah don't forget mantis since I worked on getting it to work with mylyn 3.0. :)
[23:28:17] <rcjsuen> Didn't want you on my case.
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[23:31:09] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: yeah..don't want to make me write a blog entry. :)
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[23:41:00] <pietia> gmail connectors are not free... :|
[23:41:27] <rcjsuen> That's not too surprising I suppose.
[23:41:40] <pietia> yeah
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[23:48:32] <pietia> anyway tasktop looks promising
[23:48:34] <tokam> rcjsuen: what would you do to avoid zero length text selections?
[23:49:14] <rcjsuen> No idea. Maybe write some evaluator or hack the xml to ignore empty selections. Dunno the details of how that's implemented though.
[23:49:28] <tokam> is there probably some element to check agains its length?
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[23:50:59] <tokam> ?
[23:51:40] <rcjsuen> That doesn't sound like something that's really iterable to me. I suggest you ask on the forums.
[23:53:22] <tokam> like this http://pastebin.de/3477
[23:54:05] <tokam> i will try if this will lead to an error, or if it works
[23:55:21] <tokam> no error but no solution





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