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[00:40:15] <pingveno> I'm trying to have a Java workspace be part of a larger Git repository. What files do I need to keep track of? History doesn't matter to me, but I have some detailed code style that I'd like to keep.
[00:41:18] <rcjsuen> I personally wouldn't put my workspace under version control.
[00:41:42] <rcjsuen> for java formatting i believe you can export that anyway
[00:42:25] <pingveno> Hmmm
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[00:42:43] <pingveno> I really should keep this all under version control...
[00:43:34] <deSilva> nope
[00:43:39] <[mors]> hey folks, does the git plugin support synchronize, like the cvs one, and does it anotate the source tree with the tags for each folder and file ?
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[00:44:14] <rcjsuen> [mors]: Synchronize no.
[00:44:32] <[mors]> oh :( synchronize was soooo neat
[00:44:43] <rcjsuen> [mors]: hey, that makes the two of us ;p
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[00:45:32] <[mors]> do you know if tehre's a bug on it ?
[00:45:37] <nitind> pingveno: Usually you want just the projects under source control.  The stuff under the workspace that's not in a project can be highly machine-specific (JRE definitions, proxy setup, etc.).  Not that it wouldn't work, but you'll be seeing deltas pretty often since even problem markers are stored there.
[00:45:40] <rcjsuen> Not that I know of myself.
[00:45:59] <rcjsuen> [mors]: Could always open one though. It's an open source project after all, you have a need, make it known. :)
[00:46:02] <nitind> rcjsuen: Then how do you see what's changed before bringing it in?
[00:46:16] <rcjsuen> nitind: of course i use the wondrous command line... >_>
[00:48:16] <pingveno> nitind: Oh well. Thanks for help.
[00:50:20] <pingveno> Yay! I can do private hosting of multiple Git repos. Woot!
[00:50:34] <pingveno> Through my university, of course.
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[01:04:30] <pingveno> Does the git plugin for Eclipse work? I'm getting mixed messages as to whether it is.
[01:04:43] <rhk> philk__: did you ever get eclipselink working for you?
[01:05:29] <epalm> eclipse 3.5.0, for the love of god how can i EXCLUDE .svn directories from Search -> File
[01:05:51] <nitind> epalm: Does your SVN plug-in not do that automatically?
[01:06:00] <epalm> i don't have an svn plugin
[01:06:45] <rcjsuen> pingveno: Most people seem to get the vibe that you still need the CLI for some operations. Of course, if you're a CLI wiz then it doesn't matter I suppose.
[01:06:48] <epalm> why would i need an svn plugin for this
[01:07:43] <pingveno> rcjsuen: I'm extremely comfortable with the CLI, but I haven't a clue on how to handle all of the Eclipse files.
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[01:18:36] <nitind> epalm: Because that's what's expected to tell Eclipse that the .svn folders are source control metadata.
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[02:47:16] <Morph> anybody use eclipse in ubuntu linux?
[02:48:01] <rcjsuen> I know people that do anyway.
[02:50:15] <rcjsuen> Why do you ask, Morph?
[02:51:30] <Morph> because i need know how install!
[02:51:39] <Morph> i don't know
[02:52:03] <Morph> i need install vep
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[02:53:13] <rcjsuen> ~linux-install
[02:53:13] <Arbalest> Trying to install Eclipse on Linux? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_Linux.3F
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[03:19:28] <jmspeex> I'm really having a hard time understanding why/how the options available from the menu seem to change every time I click on something
[03:19:53] <rcjsuen> Likely based on the context...but I guess you already figured that out.
[03:20:12] <jmspeex> For example, if I'm editing my code, I can't even select the "build" item. I have to click on the project directory on the left
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[03:20:44] <Sal> hello
[03:20:47] <jmspeex> rcjsuen: yes, but it's weird enough that I must be missing something obvious (or else eclipse would be really buggy/badly designed)
[03:21:04] <rcjsuen> imeikas: you mean stuff like 'Build All' or 'Build Project'?
[03:21:24] <jmspeex> yes
[03:21:34] <Sal> you guys that "understand" eclipse way of writing version numbers, can someone please tell me on this page which is the lastest version? http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/downloads/
[03:21:36] <Sal> thanks
[03:21:38] <jmspeex> that and "Reconfigure Project"
[03:21:40] <rcjsuen> jmspeex: They seem fine for me, i can go to project menu and they are enabled
[03:21:51] <rcjsuen> i dunno what reconfig project is myself
[03:22:04] <jmspeex> rcjsuen: that's with the linux tools (autotools)
[03:22:48] <jmspeex> rcjsuen: As soon as I click in the editor view, "build project" and "build all" are greyed out
[03:23:05] <rcjsuen> Sal: 2.1.x is stable, 2.2.x is unstable
[03:23:24] <jmspeex> but "build configurations", "clean..." and a few others are still active
[03:23:26] <rcjsuen> jmspeex: Dunno, I don't have the linux tools plug-ins, I'm just using Java here, not C/C++ or anything.
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[03:23:49] <Sal> then why do they damn write 2.2.0 STABLE BUILDS?
[03:23:54] <jmspeex> This is actually with C/C++ (don't think it has anything to do with linux tools though)
[03:24:22] <Sal> anyway, there are a lto of 2.1
[03:24:38] <Sal> is the 2.1 SR-1 te last one? or is it a kindof beta
[03:24:57] <rcjsuen> Sal: it's a full-fledged release
[03:25:08] <rcjsuen> jmspeex: i agree i don't think linuxtools should interfere
[03:25:17] <Sal> or is the last one the 2.1.2 ?
[03:25:25] <jmspeex> rcjsuen: But it may have to do with C/C++?
[03:25:27] <Sal> its a damn thing to get the lst link
[03:25:30] <Sal> last
[03:25:30] <jmspeex> never tried java
[03:25:30] <rcjsuen> Sal: stable development milestone builds i guess, but i agree it is confusing, you should file a bug asking they rename it
[03:26:01] <rcjsuen> i would just go with the SR1 download if i were you
[03:26:12] <Sal> ok
[03:27:31] <jmspeex> rcjsuen: can you also confirm that in eclipse there's no such concept as a file "belonging" to a project?
[03:28:05] <rcjsuen> jmspeex: You would have to rephrase.
[03:28:11] <jmspeex> i.e. that I can't have two C files in the project directory with one of them not part of the project?
[03:28:44] <rcjsuen> Not if they're in the same parent container, no.
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[03:30:28] <jmspeex> rcjsuen: what's a "container" in that context?
[03:31:15] <rcjsuen> a folder
[03:31:27] <rcjsuen> (or the project root, which in a way is also a folder)
[03:31:44] <jmspeex> OK
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[06:07:38] <Crell> Hi all.  Hopefully easy question.  Where is the setting to put a 80-character boundary line into the editor so that I know where to wrap comments?
[06:07:51] <Crell> I've seen it before, and have it set on one system, but cannot remember where it is to set it again.
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[06:10:39] <jmspeex> Crell: General->Editors->Text Editors
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[06:10:54] <Crell> Ah ha, thanks!
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[06:49:51] <ngoonee> hi all
[06:50:18] <ngoonee> why does my eclipse install reference gcc 4.4.1 when I have 4.4.2 setup?
[06:50:33] <ngoonee> compiles fine, but the shared library segfaults because its not able to find 4.4.1
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[08:41:33] <rawake> eclipse is removing my tab indentations when i save a document if there isn't anything on that line. how do i turn off this "feature"?
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[08:44:14] <ngoonee> rawake: its called removing whitespace at the end of the line, AFAIK
[08:44:53] <rawake> ngoonee: yeah i searched for "white" in my preferences but didn't find the one that does that
[08:45:18] <ngoonee> rawake: there's at least 2 sets controlling that, one is language-specific editor, and one is editor
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[08:48:01] <rawake> meh :\
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[09:26:18] <nima0102> hi
[09:27:13] <nima0102> for installing eclipse on debian, which package should be installed from download part or eclipse site??
[09:31:59] <jink> If you want to use the packages, just use the package, if you don't care, or want the very latest version, download it from the site and do a manual install.
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[09:47:14] <Pholious> does anyone understand why this error pops up? I get it when I try and clean my project in eclipse because it's filled with errors since my /home/ directory been full? http://nopaste.info/986af025d5.html
[09:47:38] <Pholious> it probably had no more disk space to create the properties.index file, it's completely empty
[09:47:45] <Pholious> but not quite sure how to solve this
[09:48:05] <Pholious> though, I should have the file on my other computer.. can they just be copied or ?
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[09:48:29] <Pholious> or I could completely delete the project and grab it out of SVN again, or is the problem elsewhere?
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[09:56:21] <nima0102> jink, thanks, but which package should I download for installing on linux?because there are very package for download:(
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[11:25:22] <philk_> can I also define imports of Annotations as optional and will the class then load if the Annotation cannot be resolved during runtime?
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[12:04:21] <ilyak> Hi *
[12:04:50] <ilyak> I have a project where, when I change a file, it is recompiled on the fly and also I've shown errors in other files
[12:04:56] <ilyak> And another project when it just won't happen
[12:05:01] <ilyak> Where do I tune it?
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[12:05:05] <ilyak> Both projects are java
[12:05:56] <ilyak> Builders for the first project show "Java builder"
[12:06:01] <ilyak> For second one, they don't
[12:06:04] <ilyak> How do I add one?
[12:07:14] <ilyak> End up adding it by hand into .projects
[12:07:32] <ilyak> Eclipse should really really allow for easy addition of natures and builders into projects
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[12:16:36] <TomTom> ilyak: i always change the .project file to add java nature for example...
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[12:50:02] <ilyak> Too
[12:50:05] <ilyak> It sucks
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[12:50:29] <ilyak> There clearly should be a menu item "add a nature to project BECAUSE I SAID SO"
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[13:05:39] <Ascen_> Good day, everyone..
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[13:06:56] <Ascen_> Having installed a feature by copying it to /features and /plugins, should the updatesite defined for the feature be disabled in Help/Software Updates?
[13:09:27] <erdal> no
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[13:10:34] <Ascen_> Ok.. what would cause it to be disabled? As you may guess, that is what I am experiencing.
[13:10:59] <Ascen_> It seems to work fine when I enable it manually, but that is too much of a hassle for end users.
[13:11:39] <erdal> what happens if the update site provides newer versions of that feature?
[13:12:01] <ngoonee> Ascen_: a bit of a tangent, but presumably those using Eclipse would be programmers or wanna-be programmers?
[13:12:13] <ngoonee> Ascen_: is it really too much of a hassle?
[13:13:05] <Ascen_> well, if it is possible to pre-enable it with a reasonable amount of work, i'd prefer to not have to instruct the users to do it.
[13:13:20] <ngoonee> Ascen_: fair enough
[13:13:22] <Ascen_> We are developing a eclipse based product, but not on SDK
[13:13:40] <Ascen_> So end users are not programmers per-se
[13:14:29] <ngoonee> that piques the interest, what will your product do?
[13:16:14] <Ascen_> It aims to be an IDE for test designers, who convert design documents into step-by-step tests
[13:16:56] <erdal> Ascen_: paulweb515 might know why the update site gets disabled after a manual installation
[13:17:31] <Ascen_> erdal: Thanks, I'll have to ask him.
[13:18:45] <rcjsuen> ilyak: yeah, there's a long standing enhancement request about "refactoring" projects
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[13:39:02] <balor> Is there an open-source graphical UML drawing tool for eclipse?
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[13:41:55] <Guest28220> I have a  .xsd file in one of the plugins of my product. I want to set this xsd in Configuration Settings.ini file . Any idea how t do that? eg : -Daa.schema=plugins/abc/aa.xsd ?
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[13:44:08] <Chaze|shigoto> hi. is there some way to add existing projects in my workspace folder to my workspace? i'm thinking of editing some file there
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[13:47:44] <rcjsuen> if the folder is in your ws, just make a new project and use the same name
[13:48:18] <Chaze|shigoto> rcjsuen: yes, that's what I did before. but there's a lot of projects and i'd like to avoid the GUI
[13:48:41] <Chaze|shigoto> aren't my 'active' workspace projects stored somewhere?
[13:48:43] <rcjsuen> Are they already tagged with .project files? If yes, use the import wizard.
[13:49:46] <Chaze|shigoto> yes, they have .project files
[13:49:54] <Chaze|shigoto> where do i find that wizard?
[13:51:07] <rcjsuen> same place you find the "New" wizards, File > Import...
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[13:51:59] <Chaze|shigoto> hhm, no such thing
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[13:55:36] <rcjsuen> Chaze|shigoto: No File > Import... entry you mean?
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[13:58:11] <bigmack83_> i have installedeclipse in ubuntu but its using the openjdk java install. i have sun-java6-jdk installed. how can i make eclipe use sun jdk instead. in the settings under available jre's it only shows openjdk
[13:58:50] <rcjsuen> i think it's like
[13:58:50] <rcjsuen> sudo --list-alternatives or something like that
[13:58:50] <rcjsuen> well maybe the #ubuntu channel can help you with that
[13:59:35] <bigmack83_> ok thanks
[14:00:38] <Chaze|shigoto> rcjsuen: there wasn't an entry in the file menu, but i found it in the context menu of the navigator
[14:00:41] <Chaze|shigoto> thanks
[14:00:45] <rcjsuen> That is very odd.
[14:00:48] <rcjsuen> :(
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[14:03:44] <rcjsuen> ~tell bigmack83_ about ubuntu-java
[14:03:44] <Arbalest> bigmack83_: Trying to get Java running on Ubuntu Linux? Is someone in the channel saying some foreign phrase like "a supported JRE"? Look here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[14:04:30] <bigmack83_> rcjsuen, lol thanks
[14:04:40] <rcjsuen> I forgot about that macro.
[14:05:32] <jink> Chaze|shigoto: Window -> Customize Perspective... -> Menu Visibility -> File -> Import (make sure it's checked)
[14:05:42] <opossum_oisif> hi I have installed pdt and in my project I can't run the debugger even after setting it (xdebug), does somebody knows the issue?
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[14:50:00] <eFfeM> hi, is there something like cleanC for eclipse 3.4 or 3.5 (latest cleanC is for 3.3)
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[14:58:14] <bigmack83_> i have the button issue where i need to run "export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true" (in linux) to get the buttons to work. can i just put that into my .bashrc file?
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[15:04:16] <rcjsuen> bigmack83_: yes, that should work
[15:04:43] <rcjsuen> of course, assuming you have your system pick it up and/or run Eclipse in said terminal
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[15:07:32] <bigmack83_> thanks
[15:12:17] <spawnyd> During earlyStartup() I want to get args. I use EclipseEnvironmentInfo.getDefault().getCommandLineArgs(); it works but I get a warning: "Discouraged access: The method getDefault() from the type EclipseEnvironmentInfo is not accessible due to restriction on required library ". Should I ignore it or what can I do?
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[15:13:52] <rcjsuen> spawnyd: as the package name implies, that class is internal and not API
[15:15:13] <omry|work> is there a way to get CDT to automatically build and launch the debug binary when launching a debug session? it's getting annoying to have to change the configuration back and forth from Debug to Release
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[15:16:29] <spawnyd> rcjsuen: yes, but how can I get this in another way, I googled but just got that...
[15:17:08] <rcjsuen> i'd personally expose most of those to be exposed as java.lang.System properties, but maybe not
[15:20:51] <spawnyd> rcjsuen: ty, thats the right way.
[15:21:08] <rcjsuen> well then
[15:22:42] <Egelmex> is there any way to make a TextEditor use softtabs?
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[15:25:49] <CarstenP2> hi, when i export my war, the deployment descriptors are missin.
[15:25:51] <CarstenP2> g
[15:26:14] <CarstenP2> i am using galileo
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[15:35:07] <rhk> philk__: you were asking some questions about eclipselink a while back, and I was wondering if you ever got it working for you?
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[15:38:19] <philk__> rhk: that depends on the question... do you rememebr it?
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[15:44:54] <nitind_> Egelmex: What do you mean by soft tabs?
[15:46:12] <rhk> philk__: it was about a NoClassDefFoundErrror with
[15:46:13] <Egelmex> so i have a custom editor, and the language requires indentation of 2 spaces, so i want it so when i tab it instead does two spaces
[15:46:23] <rhk> philk__: org/eclipse/persistence/internal/libraries/antlr/runtime/Parser
[15:47:04] <rhk> I had the same error yesterday, and found the solution, but not until after I found the irc log with your unanswered question
[15:47:19] <philk__> rhk: yeah I included this package optional into my bundle
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[15:47:36] <rhk> plus it seems like you might be about a month ahead of me in using EL, so I was hoping to pick your brain a little :)
[15:47:41] <philk__> rhk: i really wonder why EclipseLink (coming from Oracle) is still so heavily broken
[15:47:51] <rhk> it does seem that way
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[15:48:08] <rhk> it's very fragile
[15:48:08] <philk__> rhk: it does not even implement the basic JPA specs correctly... argl
[15:48:13] <rhk> everything has to be set up just right for it to work
[15:48:24] <rhk> are you also using teneo with it?
[15:48:30] <nitind_> Egelmex: Check the "Text Editors" preference page for the "Insert spaces for tabs" setting.
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[15:48:53] <philk__> rhk: it still uses the old DriverManager for SQL drivers (after that fails, it tries the OSGi way of loading classes)
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[15:49:09] <philk__> rhk: then it does not support adding of new persistent classes in an OSGi way
[15:49:26] <philk__> rhk: it also does not use OSGi CM for its persistence config
[15:49:40] <philk__> rhk: the persistence.xml has to be in the classpath *yuk*
[15:49:54] <Egelmex> nitind_: that inserts 4 spaces by the looks of it
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[15:49:58] <rhk> philk__: so... lots of reasons not to use it then :)
[15:50:05] <philk__> rhk: I am not using teneo
[15:50:17] <Egelmex> and i need to force it to always use 2spaces because the language requires that
[15:50:26] <philk__> rhk: there is no JPA impl out there that does proper OSGi
[15:50:46] <philk__> rhk: keeps you wondering what those guys have been doing the last 10 years (that OSGi is around)
[15:50:48] <rhk> philk__: bummer. that's where my real issue is. I got EL to work sort of ok, although I don't like where the derby database ended up
[15:51:09] <philk__> rhk: drop the derby database. Its a beast of it own. Try H2
[15:51:41] <rhk> philk__: teneo on the other hand looks like it would be useful, but is so poorly documented that I spent 12 hours just to learn how to use it
[15:51:49] <philk__> rhk: JPA has its flaws also... why is there no support for triggers?
[15:52:03] <philk__> rhk: Whats teneo?
[15:52:04] <rhk> philk__: teneo/eclipselink that is. teneo/hibernate seems well documented
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[15:52:37] <rhk> philk__: teneo maps EMF models to JPA/hibernate/etc
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[15:54:53] <philk__> rhk: I am not using EMF (never saw any need for it) so I cannot help here
[15:55:13] <philk__> rhk: btw is there ANY good tutorial out there that desribes *why* one should use EMF?
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[15:58:39] <Guest50152> I have used Eclipse buddy policy in my project for few plugins and it works just fine in the IDE . When I export the product and launch, it does not seem to pick up registered buddies. Has anyone faced such an issue?
[15:59:13] <rhk> philk__: for me EMF has saved me tons of time. the existing tutorials (like the library example) don't do it justice.
[15:59:50] <rhk> philk__: the big "ah ha" moment was when I learned how to make models that referenced other models, and it opened up worlds of possibilities
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[16:01:10] <philk__> rhk: I, until now, fail to see the benefits. It just looks overly complicated like UML in the past (never used that either). Yet, I was able to build reasonable complex projects. So is there anything you could recommend me to read about EMF?
[16:05:29] <rhk> philk__: what I liked about it is that it has way less than UML. It's like a stripped down version. I think there really is no one tutorial that actually shows you where the benefits really are. The book http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=9780321331885 helped a lot.
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[16:06:23] <philk__> rhk: ah ok, its interesting that there are not how-to out there about EMF at all. I will check out the book though, thanks
[16:06:47] <rhk> philk__: most of the tutorials I've seen are either too simple to show any benefit, or too in-depth to understand
[16:07:19] <rhk> philk__: I really should write one myself, considering I've spent the last month in a deep dive into EMF
[16:07:51] <philk__> rhk: yes, maybe thats what you should do :) It always helps when the background for a tutorial is a real world example
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[16:10:15] <rhk> philk__: I'd probably have to change some of the names to protect the guilty :) or at least not expose too much information about this project I'm working on
[16:10:39] <philk__> rhk: of course, I also would have to deal with that if I would write a tut
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[16:11:26] <rhk> philk__: it doesn't help that I can't really come up with a good one sentence explanation of what EMF is for
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[16:24:23] <philk__> rhk: thats not sounding good. :)
[16:24:45] <rhk> philk__: http://robot.dataslab.com/index.php5/EMF_Tutorial
[16:24:54] <rhk> that's the start of it
[16:27:04] <philk__> rhk: goodm keep going
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[16:31:06] <philk__> I wonder why OSGi wants a binder method for dynamic services and not just calls a default one for the given reference...
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[16:42:41] <Will123456> hey guys. is there an eclipse GUI builder?
[16:42:54] <monk12> hello all, i was curious. i have an eclipse workspace (i guess that holds mostly my eclipse settings), so i choose that when i start up eclipse... i have projects outside of that dir... projects i checked out via svn... How does eclipse know what files are modified? the .svn folder in each project's folders? just curious as i am starting to test a new version of eclipse to use, and i was wondering could i just import one of those projects in, and it look the same
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[16:47:10] <Egelmex> Will123456: i am using jigloo atm
[16:47:47] <Will123456> Egelmex: i'll take a look at it, thanks :)
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[16:52:29] <rhk> philk__: have a look at the tutorial now.
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[16:58:27] <rcjsuen> monk12: I would think so. Probably based on timestamps as a first pass.
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[17:02:09] <Will123456> Egelmex: maybe this is a stupid question but i can't for the life of me figure out how to add Jigloo to eclipse using the update manager. am i just totally missing what to do or what?
[17:03:11] <Egelmex> you need to add the update site from their download page and its the only plugin on that site
[17:04:25] <monk12> rcjsuen: yeh looks like it worked. i pointed to my old eclipse workspace, and it found the projects outside of that workspace i had. svn-'smartness' seems to work. Connecting to the svn-repository though is a bit different though but working on that. before i just had SVN_SSH env var, or Subversion/config file, and authorized_keys on server with my priv key. and it would just connect fine. seems a bit off now though with Galileo.
[17:05:33] <Will123456> Egelmex: ah of course, i see now... right, thanks again :P i owe you, er, something
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[17:07:14] <philk__> njbartlett: I have CommandAction services, that all reference another service. When I define new actions its easily forgettable to reference the service in the DS xml. Is there a more convinient way to handle this in DS? Like have a base service (ServiceFactory?) that references the services and spits out new CommandAction services? In each CommandAction DS i would then only reference the service factory?
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[17:19:51] <bobbytek> is there a shortcut for switching between consoles?
[17:21:17] <paulweb515> bobbytek: next page
[17:21:57] <bobbytek> ah, nice cheers
[17:22:33] <bobbytek> er, what's next page?
[17:22:38] <bobbytek> page down?
[17:22:40] <bobbytek> page up?
[17:23:06] <paulweb515> next page is the command ... you'll have to assign it a keybinding
[17:23:26] <bobbytek> ah
[17:23:29] <bobbytek> will check that out
[17:24:36] <bobbytek> default binding are alt+f7 and alt+shift+f7
[17:24:41] <bobbytek> thanks paulweb515 :)
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[17:26:36] <Will123456> thanks again for the help, bye
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[17:53:16] <sharperguy> how do i install plugins/features from zip?
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[18:10:36] <nitind> sharperguy: Do you know if it's a zipped Update Site?
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[18:15:44] <sharperguy> nitind, I've got it now anyway, thanks
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[18:16:39] <jelly-bean1> i have the latest release of eclipse pdt all-in-one but it doesn't show me the hints as i am typing php functions that explain the order of arguments taken etc. what is that called and how do i enable that?
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[18:28:58] <bobbytek> paulweb515: is there a way to perform Next page without a prompt?
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[18:41:27] <Poundo> I am setting up a debug configuration a remote sftp PHP script using eclipse and it wants a PHP executable defined I am on a mac and can't seem to locate a php-cgi.exe like I have setup for debugging on my windows machine
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[18:42:26] <Poundo> nothing turns up in the search
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[18:46:29] <nats> hi, i get this problem when i'm trying to run my application,"The source attachment does not contain the source for the file Arraylist.class" and when i changethe attached source, the error still the same
[18:46:31] <nats> ?
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[18:47:34] <Egelmex> I have a ContentOutlinePage how do i trigger the source to be repassed?  i.e. when the user creates a new function?
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[18:51:21] <rcjsuen> presumably when your AST changes it will fire an event
[18:52:15] <Egelmex> your presuming the guy who worked on this before me did this sensibly! there seems to be 5 diffrent implemenations of code parsers about :(
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[18:54:51] <rcjsuen> Yes, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.
[18:55:00] <rcjsuen> Hopefully they will in turn give me the same.
[18:56:21] <Egelmex> lol :)
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[18:57:34] <Egelmex> guess i should do the correct thing and build an ast, and consolidate all the partial parsers
[18:57:46] <Egelmex> its just a pain this langauage is such a pig to parse
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[19:14:38] <jelly-bean1> what is the feature called that displays the code hints
[19:17:16] <rcjsuen> Not clear to me what "code hints" are.
[19:18:04] <jelly-bean1> so i start typing a function and it pops up a tooltip explaining the arguments
[19:18:15] <jelly-bean1> for both custom class methods, functions, as well as the language constructs
[19:18:25] <nitind> Context Information, I think.
[19:19:33] <Egelmex> ContentAssist
[19:20:30] <nitind> Those are two different things.
[19:20:45] <nitind> Ctrl+Shift+Space vs. Ctrl+Space.
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[19:29:53] <jelly-bean1> i want the one that just shows it once you type the function opening bracket
[19:30:39] <bobbytek> Is there a way to perform Next page without a prompt?
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[19:32:55] <rcjsuen> jelly-bean1: That would be context information. Ctrl+Space seems to work for me.
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[19:33:55] <jelly-bean1> so i type the word array_slice() and put my cursor between the parenthesis and press Ctrl+space
[19:34:00] <jelly-bean1> i get a list of what look like html elements
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[19:34:08] <bobbytek> what's the diff between that and Alt+/ ?
[19:34:10] <jelly-bean1> no not html elements but php terms
[19:34:19] <jelly-bean1> abstract, and, array, etc.
[19:36:30] <rcjsuen> bobbytek: that's jus tword completion
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[19:40:08] <jelly-bean1> ok if i press ctrl+spcae then start typing it works but only for project functions
[19:40:17] <jelly-bean1> i also want to see php functions like array_splice()
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[19:43:34] <d_a_carver> jelly-bean1: you should be able to get php function assistance.  I think it depends on where the PHP documentation is stored.
[19:43:46] <d_a_carver> jelly-bean1: of if it is even accessible.
[19:43:51] <d_a_carver> or if
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[19:47:29] <MadOtis> Hello all... I'm having an odd problem with Eclipse 3.5.1... I have a Java 6 project and have confirmed that my project is defined as such.  But, in each class that I use an annotation (such as @Override), I get a compilation error to the intent of:  "... must override or implement a supertype method"... but the supertypes are there.  Any suggestions?
[19:48:12] <rcjsuen> Screenshots would be helpful.
[19:48:56] <penthief> Is it possible to change the internal browser?
[19:50:02] <MadOtis> rcjsuen: Of the error in the problem tab, or a snippet of the code causing the compilation error?
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[19:50:17] <rcjsuen> MadOtis: your editor, problems view, your package explorer, all ofi t
[19:50:33] <rcjsuen> and of course, split editor of the supertype and the subclass type is good
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[19:50:55] <RenatoSilva> is there any structure compare for css in any eclipse project?
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[19:51:28] <MadOtis> rcjsuen:  thanks, I'll see what I can do.
[19:51:34] <zanberdo> general question: using eclipse 3.5.1 on amd64 running ubuntu 9.04. I need to compile my app for 32-bit. I know the optional flag is -m32 (and I have my 32-bit libs), but I'm not clear where in the build properties I would add this option.
[19:51:47] <zanberdo> Where would I add in the project properties the -m32 option?
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[20:00:21] <jelly-bean1> d_a_carver: how can i tell about the php documentation?
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[20:00:35] <nexx> hi
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[20:02:13] <nexx> yesterday i updated a few plugins in my eclipse. they are installed in my userspace. after restarting eclipse all plugins installed in that space didnt work any more
[20:02:28] <nexx> they are in the list of installed plugins but i cannot use them
[20:02:29] <d_a_carver> jelly-bean1: should be a preference setting...unfortunately I don't have PDT installed at the momement.
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[20:02:40] <Luyang> Hi all
[20:02:51] <nexx> i found nothing related on the web :(
[20:03:21] <Luyang> When using the Ant view in Eclipse I have to have build.xml focused for ant to understand how to execute it. Otherwise it tries to use the Java file on top. How can I change so that I don't have to have build.xml open to execute the Ant tasks? Thanks
[20:03:58] <nexx> on projects using svn i get also this massage: "Could not instantiate provider org.eclipse.team.svn.core.svnnature for project"
[20:04:32] <FauxFaux> nexx: And the error log view says?
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[20:05:57] <nexx> this is from the errorlog view. on the details there is only the stacktrace. do you need it?
[20:06:09] <Luyang> Does somebody have an answer to my question?
[20:08:13] <nexx> http://pastebin.com/m5110fed
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[20:11:07] <penthief> GWT Designer plugin is giving the error "Unsupported Mozilla-based Browser." Is there a workaround for this? -- I can't find anything.
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[20:17:03] <RenatoSilva> is there any bug for expanding support of structure compare to other formats?
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[20:19:15] <jelly-bean1> update: it was my .project file
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[20:20:14] <jsemar> does anyone know can i create custom keybindings in eclipse where Ctrl+Alt+Foo+Bar prints out myReallyLongStringThatItypeLotAndamSickOfTyping
[20:20:42] <jsemar> in the editor window where the cursor is at
[20:21:48] <penthief> jsemar: What's wrong with Ctrl-Spc?
[20:22:07] <jsemar> what does that do
[20:22:46] <penthief> It completes variables and other things. About 20% of my keypresses are Ctrl-Spc!
[20:23:09] <jsemar> well the line in question is a debug line so it never exists in the code when i type it
[20:23:26] <jsemar> can i some how store it on a clipboard type thing
[20:23:52] <Luyang> penthief: I just do variable. and wait for the suggestions to pop out
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[20:25:01] <penthief> You could add a macr
[20:26:15] <penthief> window->preferences search for macro or templates....
[20:26:34] <xxen> also reinstalled and new installed plugins didnt work
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[20:32:06] <penthief> jsemar: http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/plugin_details.jsp?id=930 might be worth a look.
[20:32:59] <Luyang> I'm gonna start to lean my head backwards like this too! http://bit.ly/7duwVb Go John Malkovich
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[20:49:13] <nats> hi, i get this problem when i'm trying to run my application,"The source attachment does not contain the source for the file Arraylist.class" and when i changethe attached source, the error still the same, what can i do?
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[20:55:24] <Luyang> nats: it sounds like you're debugging and try to debug into a class file which isn't part of your project (source code)... so you have to add a path where such code can be found in Eclipse... or install a decompiler plugin
[20:57:34] <nats> ok i'll search for the file
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[21:08:10] <ech0s7> hi
[21:08:20] <ech0s7> it's possible with eclipse create a new subpackage ?
[21:08:26] <ech0s7> (for java project)
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[21:11:44] <rcjsuen> jsemar: some editors support custom templates
[21:11:52] <rcjsuen> ech0s7: Just use the new package wizard and make it?
[21:12:07] <ech0s7> rcjsuen: done, thanks
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[21:24:41] <Poundo> looking for tips and how to's on setting up remote debugging with php and eclipse?
[21:26:51] <Luyang> Poundo: get zend studio
[21:28:00] <Luyang> Poundo: also check http://www.zend.com/community/pdt
[21:28:14] <Poundo> what is zend studio please. I have eclipse, aptana and php plugins do I need to add zend studio?
[21:28:28] <Luyang> Poundo: check http://www.zend.com/community/pdt as I already told you
[21:28:34] <Luyang> there's a php debugger there
[21:28:50] <Luyang> go go go... and don't forget to send that free beer over
[21:29:48] <Poundo> Luyang: I have PDT installed what I don't find is where the PHP executable is for the debug configuration in eclipse for the remote php pages
[21:30:04] <Poundo> I am on a mac
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[21:30:27] <Poundo> butwhen I search for php-cgi.exe etc there is nothing found
[21:30:28] <rawake> what does sr-1 mean? is it like rc-1?
[21:30:43] <rcjsuen> rawake: No. Service Release 1.
[21:30:52] <Luyang> Poundo: To switch to the PHP perspective, from the Menu Bar go to Window | Open Perspective | PHP.
[21:31:12] <Poundo> ok got it?
[21:31:14] <rawake> rcjsuen: is a service release considered stable?
[21:31:23] <Luyang> Poundo: http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/articles/debugger/os-php-eclipse-pdt-debug-pdf.pdf
[21:31:36] <Luyang> Read read read read...
[21:31:43] <Poundo> ok thanks!
[21:31:44] <rcjsuen> rawake: It's intended to be a maintenance release, yes.
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[21:33:26] <Luyang> Poundo: I used google... you could try too
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[21:35:17] <rawake> as of today when i try to start eclipse.exe i just blinks up the splash screen and dies. nothing is shown on my console. if i try and start it with eclipsec.exe it spits out "Error occurred during initialization of VM  java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object". what does this mean?
[21:35:19] <jelly-bean11> is there something in eclipse that will auto-fill certain docblock tags like @author or on a per-project basis like @package and @link and @copyright @license etc
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[21:42:19] <Luyang> rawake: seems that it cannot find the Java Virtual Machine... Java Runtime Engine should include something called rt.jar ... check your system CLASSPATH... you could also check your eclipse.ini to see if you have put something weird there... also check google!
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[21:42:59] <Luyang> rawake: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22NoClassDefFoundError%3A+java%2Flang%2FObject%22+eclipse
[21:43:52] <webus> hi to all! i have a problem. keyboard in eclipse freezes, then continues to work. mouse does not hang. using ubuntu 9.10
[21:45:44] <rcjsuen> rawake: I suggest reinstalling you JREs/JDKs.
[21:46:31] <Luyang> rcjsuen: no he just needs to readd java runtime engine in his project
[21:47:01] <rcjsuen> Luyang: What "project" are you referring to, it seems rawake cannot even start Eclipse.
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[21:55:15] <rawake> Luyang: rcjsuen: Cool, reinstalling the jre fixed it. weird
[21:55:22] <rcjsuen> okilydokily
[21:55:41] <webus> tell me, why keyboard in eclipse freeze
[21:55:43] <webus> ?
[21:55:56] <webus> i uninstall openjdk, and install sun jdk
[21:56:39] <rcjsuen> webus: Some other person reported a similar problem. https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=291257#c49
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[21:58:06] <jelly-bean11> with the PHP > Code Style > Code Templates does anyone know how to get the Comments > Files template to appear?
[21:58:32] <webus> thnx
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[22:02:04] <guardian_> hello, when using JDT, is there a way to set the classloader to be used at compiled time the same way javac offers javac -J-Djava.system.class.loader=org.awesome.classloader sourcefile.java ???
[22:02:12] <guardian_> or is it a bad idea from start?
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[22:03:53] <vadi2> Is it possible to open a "notes" view? I looked about but didn't find anything. basically want a tab where I can have text I put in
[22:04:12] <rawake> i'm just upgraded to eclipse-pdt-sr1 and i'm trying to install the mylyn jira plugin but i keep getting  this error "Software being installed: Mylyn Connector: JIRA 3.3.1.I20091202-0100-e3x (org.eclipse.mylyn.jira_feature.feature.group 3.3.1.I20091202-0100-e3x)    Missing requirement: Mylyn Connector: JIRA 3.3.1.I20091202-0100-e3x (org.eclipse.mylyn.jira_feature.feature.group 3.3.1.I20091202-0100-e3x) requires 'org.eclipse.mylyn_
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[22:04:46] <rawake> why doesn't i see org.eclipse.mylyn_feature.feature.group somewhere available to install?
[22:06:32] <rcjsuen> vadi2: There's nothing for that out of the box. I've seen third-party plug-ins while surfing the web.
[22:07:18] <vadi2> Name?
[22:07:52] <rcjsuen> No idea, I only saw it in passing and had no personal interest in it.
[22:08:11] <vadi2> alright
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[22:15:26] <nitind> rawake: Just create an Untitled file from the File menu.
[22:15:50] * nitind grumbles about partial terminal refreshes
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[22:16:58] <rawake> nitind: you lost me
[22:17:31] <rcjsuen> What's that debugger feature to quick return
[22:17:42] <rcjsuen> like say i'm debugging and this class file is return false, but i wanna return true instead
[22:18:00] <nitind> rawake: meant that for vadi2
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[22:24:50] <SimpsonTP> hi all
[22:25:05] <SimpsonTP> is anyone here working on this eGit project ?
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[22:27:51] <paulweb515> SimpsonTP: rcjsuen was using it, I believe, but I haven't seen any of the eGit developers around here
[22:29:17] <SimpsonTP> okay, its beeing missed more and more :)
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[22:45:02] <rhk> for anyone who's interested, I've created a tutorial for EMF (http://robot.dataslab.com/index.php5/EMF_Tutorial). I'd appreciate any feedback that is given
[22:45:05] <rhk> philk__: http://robot.dataslab.com/index.php5/EMF_Tutorial
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[22:50:54] <SimpsonTP> rhk, you basicly created a editor for your own needs ??
[22:51:15] <rhk> SimpsonTP: that's what EMF does :)
[22:51:34] <rhk> SimpsonTP: or at least one of the things it does
[22:52:01] <SimpsonTP> rhk, I could recognize myself in the first paragraph
[22:52:25] <xxen> my eclipse has apache commons logging plug-in 1.1.1 and 1.0.4 but if i want to add it as depency to a plugin.xml, only org.eclipse.emf.ecore.xmi
[22:52:26] <xxen> org.eclipse.xtend
[22:52:26] <xxen> org.eclipse.xtend.typesystem.emf
[22:52:26] <xxen> org.apache.commons.logging
[22:52:26] <xxen> org.antlr.runtime
[22:52:27] <xxen> com.ibm.icu
[22:52:29] <xxen> sry
[22:52:50] <xxen> only org.apache.commons.logging.source is addable
[22:52:57] <rhk> the most basic function of EMF is to be able to define a model and edit it. there's a lot more, but that's where you start.
[22:53:21] <xxen> how could i add org.apache.commons.logging?
[22:59:58] <SimpsonTP> rhk, can it be for specific datastructures as well
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[23:00:26] <SimpsonTP> rhk, thinking about a special editor for control files
[23:00:50] <rhk> SimpsonTP: there are tools that will read an XSD (XML Schema Definition) to make a model which can read that specific XML format, edit, and save in that format.
[23:01:20] <rhk> SimpsonTP: there is also another package (XText) that you can use to define a grammar to make a text parser which will put data into an ecore (EMF) model
[23:01:38] <SimpsonTP> rhk, okay, you lost me already
[23:01:44] <rcjsuen> SimpsonTP: What do you mean egit being "missed"?
[23:01:46] <rhk> SimpsonTP: the cool part is that once you have the parser, you can use either the text format or the xml format interchangeably
[23:02:16] <SimpsonTP> rcjsuen, i have a need for it ;)
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[23:02:39] <SimpsonTP> rhk, yeah, like with editing XSLT ?
[23:02:53] <rcjsuen> Hm, never heard the word "missed" being used that way. *takes note*
[23:03:00] <deSilva> rhk: I will read it
[23:03:02] <rhk> SimpsonTP: you can use EMF to make a model for nearly any data structure, then you can use the other tools to make it read/write that data in different formats (XML or text, to name a few)
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[23:03:18] <SimpsonTP> rcjsuen, I'm not native english...
[23:03:45] <deSilva> to see if it's something that my boss might be interested in
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[23:07:43] <rcjsuen> SimpsonTP: I'm not sure if they've made any new builds since the one from August myself. You could load their update site and take a look.
[23:08:17] <SimpsonTP> rcjsuen, it integrates with the whole team concept ??
[23:08:30] <rcjsuen> No. You will need to use the CLI.
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[23:12:11] <SimpsonTP> rcjsuen, so what is the benefit then ?
[23:12:20] <Poundo> new to linux and I am instructed by the "setting up remote debugging" help in Eclipse to "Ensure zend debugger is installed on your remote server" where does the tar get expanded on the remote server?
[23:12:47] <rcjsuen> SimpsonTP: Well, some operations are integrated, like viewing the revisions of a file.
[23:12:51] <rhk> SimpsonTP: actually, eclipse already has a really nice XSLT editor
[23:12:52] <Poundo> in what dir I am installing only the debugger
[23:13:28] <SimpsonTP> rhk, I know, thats why I referenced it
[23:13:40] <SimpsonTP> rcjsuen, so really at a alpha level then
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[23:14:30] <rcjsuen> SimpsonTP: i would sadly categorize that as that since i can't even make a patch from within Eclipse
[23:14:51] <SimpsonTP> rcjsuen, okay, to bad
[23:15:17] <philk__> rhk: I will check the tutorial later! thanks for the effort so far!
[23:16:00] <rhk> philk__: I also wanted a place to dump all of the knowledge I've gained so far so I can reference it later. so it's for me too :)
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[23:24:57] <rcjsuen> SimpsonTP: I'm sure they would welcome contributions. ;)
[23:25:56] <SimpsonTP> rcjsuen, I'm already happy that I can use eclipse :9
[23:25:57] <SimpsonTP> :)
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[23:39:23] <jenia_> hi
[23:39:42] <jenia_> how can i swtich tabs using the keyboard?
[23:40:05] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+(Shift+)F6
[23:40:13] <rcjsuen> or whoops that would be editor tabs
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[23:40:17] <jenia_> thanks
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[23:46:49] <ma3x> hello which version of eclipse should i download Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (188 MB) or Eclipse IDE for Java Developers (92 MB)? i'm starting to learn java
[23:48:01] <rcjsuen> Depends what kind of applications you want to try and build I suppose.
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[23:50:59] <ma3x> board games, postoffice , library applications...
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