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[00:34:11] <bushwakko> hey, in osgi is it possible to get the classloader from a bundle somehow and store it until I need to load a class from that bundle?
[00:34:23] <bushwakko> I have an extender that get's and addBundle everytime a bundle is added
[00:34:26] <bushwakko> so it know of them
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[00:36:25] <bushwakko> doing bundle.getClass().getClassLoader() seems to give me the wrong classloader
[00:37:21] <rcjsuen> well that's for sure, you're just getting the classloader for the Bundle class
[00:38:28] <bushwakko> ah shit, you are so right
[00:38:48] <rcjsuen> :)
[00:38:53] <bushwakko> that's what drinking'll do to coding :P
[00:39:16] <bushwakko> what's the best way to do this then
[00:39:38] <bushwakko> since i know which class I'm after I should probably just store the class instead of the classloader anyway?
[00:40:13] <rcjsuen> I don't know about everyone else but I don't even know why you're trying to do this.
[00:40:26] <bushwakko> soz, here goes:
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[00:43:19] <bushwakko> I have a plugin framework that lets you start up classes from bundles based on an xml structure. it should also be allowed to plug in special classes from third party bundles as well. My extender class in addition to checking for specific bundles and starting instances of classes based on the xml file, also looks for a property that says which classes "everyone" is interested in. These are the classes I'm trying to store in the extender
[00:43:19] <bushwakko> when they need to be plugged in. so if a bundle says start one of my classes and also one of XXX, the extender should also know of XXX and be able to start it
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[00:43:41] <bushwakko> the classes shouldn't need to import those packages since its dynamic
[00:44:27] <bushwakko> you could just change an xml file on the disk, and then it could start a bundle with e.g. a "Logger" class which comes from a third bundle
[00:45:43] <bushwakko> if that makes any sense
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[01:04:52] <philk_> paulweb515: how would the viewer determine which is its data source?
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[01:48:36] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Still there?
[01:48:44] <bushwakko> yes
[01:49:05] <bushwakko> but I think i fixed it by doing bundle.loadClass("className").getClass().getClassLoader()
[01:49:18] <bushwakko> I might just save the class instead though
[01:49:25] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Why do you need those extra two calls?
[01:49:41] <bushwakko> it just fit in with the rest of my code at the moment
[01:49:47] <bushwakko> and it's 1:50 :P
[01:49:49] <bushwakko> am
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[01:50:04] <njbartlett> bushwakko: That will give you the classloader of the bundle that loaded the class, not the bundle you're requesting
[01:50:17] <njbartlett> bushwakko: That is, a bundle that you might have imported the class from
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[01:50:42] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Two ways to do this: (1) just call Bundle.loadClass when you need that bundle's view of a class name
[01:51:35] <njbartlett> bushwakko: (2) Somewhere inside Spring-DM you can find a class called BundleDelegatingClassLoader. It's a classloader that just delegates to Bundle.loadClass(). This is useful for APIs that really really need to have a classloader
[01:51:54] <njbartlett> bushwakko: You can google for that code and reuse it, I know other extender bundles have done this
[01:52:03] <bushwakko> ok, i'm not using spring-DM atm though
[01:52:06] <bushwakko> ok
[01:52:10] <bushwakko> sounds like what i'm looking for
[01:52:13] <njbartlett> bushwakko: You don't have to use Spring-DM, just steal their code
[01:52:39] <bushwakko> but I didn't get why this worked for me now though
[01:53:08] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Was the class you requested inside your bundle, or imported?
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[01:53:46] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Think which classloader you'll get if you call the following: bundle.loadClass("java.lang.String").getClassLoader()
[01:54:04] <bushwakko> I don't think they were
[01:54:36] <njbartlett> Wait, did you really do loadClass().getClass()? That will just return the class object for java.lang.Class ;-)
[01:55:15] <bushwakko> I did this: bundle.loadClass("className").getClass().getClassLoader()
[01:55:43] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Okay so the loadClass() call returns something of type java.lang.Class
[01:55:52] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Then you ask java.lang.Class for its class
[01:55:53] <bushwakko> though that got me the classloader of the class I loaded. i.e. a classloader able to load the classes in that bundle
[01:56:07] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Which if course will just be java.lang.Class
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[01:56:27] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Then you ask java.lang.Class for its classloader, which of course will be the boot classloader :-)
[01:56:35] <bushwakko> well the getClass will be the implementation ? even though the object returned is Class ?
[01:56:50] <njbartlett> Nope
[01:57:15] <bushwakko> hm
[01:57:53] <njbartlett> loadClass returns a Class, so you're just doing Class.getClass(). Not very useful, are you sure that worked?
[01:57:54] <bushwakko> so options are either save the entire bundle to use it's .loadClass() or get the spring-dm thing
[01:58:10] <njbartlett> bushwakko: I don't know what you mean by save the entire bundle
[01:58:18] <bushwakko> njbartlett: It seemed to work
[01:58:53] <bushwakko> right now I make a has that is "org.e..e.Class",ClassLoader
[01:59:06] <bushwakko> so what I would do is save hte bundle instead of ClassLoader
[01:59:47] <njbartlett> Well I don't really know the context of what you're trying to do, so I can't advise on that
[02:00:09] <njbartlett> Remember that Bundle is a lightweight reference though
[02:00:21] <bushwakko> how so?
[02:00:32] <njbartlett> ?
[02:00:46] <bushwakko> what does being a lightweight reference entail
[02:01:03] <njbartlett> I mean, an instance of Bundle is pretty tiny
[02:01:17] <bushwakko> oh, for saving you mean
[02:01:25] <njbartlett> Right
[02:01:47] <bushwakko> I can try to explain a little better what I'm doing though
[02:01:50] <njbartlett> And holding a Bundle object doesn't pin the bundle itself, it can still be uninstalled etc
[02:03:04] <bushwakko> yes, I'm handling removals anyway
[02:03:33] <bushwakko> ok, here is an example xml of a plugin
[02:03:33] <bushwakko> http://pastebin.ca/1690409
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[02:04:35] <bushwakko> the Endpoint class is in the same bundle as the xml (which can also be overloaded from the filesystem)
[02:04:56] <bushwakko> however the channels and the processors can basically come from any bundle
[02:05:35] <bushwakko> so what I'm doing is adding COOS-Processor: org.coos.messaging.processor.DefaultProcessor
[02:06:02] <bushwakko> and when the extender sees that I want to save the classloader capable of loading that class for when a bundle needs it
[02:06:42] <bushwakko> so if a plugin has a filter processor based on MyFilter which comes from a separate bundle, i want the extender to be able to create it
[02:07:56] <bushwakko> so basically getting the classlaoder is what I want
[02:08:29] <Raven65> Evening all, new linux and eclipse user here trying to get me c++ environment setup. When i try to build my test project I am getting "Internal Builder: Cannot run program "g++": Unknown reason". Anyone able to help a newbie troubleshoot?
[02:09:44] <rcjsuen> Raven65: First thing to confirm I guess is whether you can run g++ from the CLI
[02:10:00] <bushwakko> or I could just save the loaded Class though, and do newInstance on it couldn't I? but then I'd have to change a lot of stuff, that's why I tried to get the classloader
[02:10:32] <njbartlett> bushwakko: So it seems you should just cache the Bundle object, that would be normal in an extender. I mean, it's not like you're trying to achieve independence from the OSGi APIs, I assume?
[02:11:01] <bushwakko> njbartlett: actually, I am :P
[02:11:18] <bushwakko> my PluginFactory is used both in standalone and osgi
[02:11:38] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Right but not in your extender. How can you possibly write an OSGi extender bundle without using the APIs?
[02:11:49] <Raven65> Ahhh, ok, I thought gcc was default on Linux. Looks like I am just missing it. Let me try to get that and I'll get back to you :)
[02:12:09] <bushwakko> njbartlett: not in the extender, no
[02:12:11] <rcjsuen> Raven65: you would think but no, not everyone needs a compiler
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[02:12:45] <bushwakko> so getting the classloader that bundle.loadClass() uses is hard?
[02:13:02] <Raven65> Roger that, thank you for the starting point, lets see how far I can get now!
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[02:13:28] <Raven65> grabbing gcc and gcc-c++ from the repo's
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[02:13:42] <rburton-> is there a way to globally set the style of the editor in Eclipse?
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[02:13:50] <rburton-> vs. per workspace
[02:13:51] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Yes, and unnecessary. Like I said, you can have a perfectly good ClassLoader implementation that just delegates to Bundle.loadClass(). I do that if I have to call an API that absolute requires a ClassLoader object. It's like 10 lines of code
[02:14:00] <rburton-> additionally, where can I download themes that were done already
[02:14:54] <bushwakko> njbartlett: kk, so I just wrap it with my own ClassLoader impl?
[02:15:51] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Right. Just override findClass(), and for completeness findResource and findResources
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[02:16:08] <bushwakko> ah, I always forget them
[02:16:20] <rcjsuen> rburton-: i don't think so for editors, at least, if it was would require manually editing files
[02:18:04] <bushwakko> so I'd store it like new ClassLoader(bundle);
[02:18:16] <bushwakko> if I'm getting this correctly?
[02:20:14] <njbartlett> Yup
[02:20:39] <rburton-> rcjsuen, :( k
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[02:23:24] <Raven65> rcjsuen, many thanks, I can compile and run now!
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[02:24:34] <rcjsuen> Raven65: np i didn't really do anything anyway
[02:24:48] <Raven65> gave me the tip i needed, so thank you!
[02:28:25] <bushwakko> njbartlett: what exactly should the overriden findresource and findresources do?
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[02:34:47] <njbartlett> bushwakko: Call Bundle.getEntry/getEntries
[02:35:10] <bushwakko> ok
[02:39:54] <bushwakko> thanks a million, that seemed to work
[02:40:13] <bushwakko> need to test with some exotic stuff though ;)
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[02:47:46] <bushwakko> A completely different question though, right now my extender is the first thing to start
[02:48:11] <bushwakko> however if it was the last thing to start, whats the usual pattern to handle the already installed bundles?
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[03:17:04] <bushwakko> or is there some magic with regard to getting bundles in when the extender is started last?
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[03:42:00] <jimi_hendrix> can i do a project-wise find/replace?
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[03:50:09] <jimi_hendrix> anyone/
[03:50:53] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+H?
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[04:00:12] <SlickMcRunFast> Hello
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[04:01:01] <SlickMcRunFast> Is there a better list of descriptions for CDT's optional features?
[04:01:27] <SlickMcRunFast> I have no idea what i'm installing
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[04:07:07] <jimi_hendrix> rcjsuen, what tab
[04:12:14] <rcjsuen> since you want to find/replace files, i would guess the file tab
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[11:31:17] <wehe> Hello, I'm trying to install eclipse. I want to use the JDT, CDT and a subversion integration. So I started by downloading a classic eclipse and then tried to install CDT via install tool. But I don't get an answer when I try to add an available software site (No reaction to Test Connection or Enable). Can anyone help or point me in the right direction?
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[11:37:14] <wehe> Hello, I'm trying to install eclipse. I want to use the JDT, CDT and a subversion integration. So I started by downloading a classic eclipse and then tried to install CDT via install tool. But I don't get an answer when I try to add an available software site (No reaction to Test Connection or Enable). Can anyone help or point me in the right direction?
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[11:50:17] <seij> Hi to all ! I'm not sure this is the right place to ask for, but I have some questions about Equinox usage. Have someone some experience into deploying a server-based equinox application ? Even if I manage to create/run my Equinox based server inside Eclipse, I still don't find a way to deploy it as a standalone application ... Can someone share experience with that ?
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[12:37:36] <ServerCrash> hi i am new to eclipse, i am looking forward to develop php application in eclipse, could anyone tell me how configure the ecplise for same so that i can use database connection/browsing, javascript (jquery) etc
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[13:42:11] <Sajaki> how can i do a trace while debugging in eclipse pdt for php ?
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[13:44:35] <lajevardi> Hi. need an jQuery code completion plugin for Eclipse, any available?
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[13:53:53] <dabreaka_> hello.. i'm using galileo sr1 with php development tools, and the "Open generation" feature throws some java exception
[13:54:20] <dabreaka_> i haven't been able to find anything on this problem so far
[13:56:22] <rcjsuen> You checked bugzilla?
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[13:58:30] <deebo> is there a way from preventing a project in my workspace from populating my error/warning lists?
[13:58:33] <dabreaka_> rcjsuen, no, only google :) can you point me there?
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[13:59:10] <deebo> or preferrably having the Problems tab have a scope of "the project this current file belongs to"
[13:59:23] <rcjsuen> ~bugzilla
[13:59:23] <Arbalest> Eclipse Bugzilla - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/
[13:59:26] <rcjsuen> deebo: you can set filters
[13:59:42] <rcjsuen> deebo: use the view menu and configure the view's contents
[14:00:36] <deebo> hmm where is that
[14:00:43] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+F10
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[14:02:11] <deebo> ah found it, thanks
[14:02:15] <deebo> helps a ton
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[14:23:35] <lajevardi> still trying to get code assist for jQuery in Eclipse pdt. & I've found this: http://www.langtags.com/jquerywtp/ In the eclipse plugin directory I can't find org.eclipse.wst.javascript.ui_~.jar Since the PDT is based on WTP I thought that I have that plugin. where can I download that?
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[14:31:08] <sycoso> hi, I can't create a new Project in eclipse because the Button "Next" doesn't work. I'm using Archlinux and openjdk6
[14:32:11] <alankila> GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
[14:32:26] <alankila> or press enter
[14:33:02] <sycoso> that works :)
[14:33:03] <sycoso> thx
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[14:48:49] <w0lfshad3> how do i tell eclipse formatter to display the c:if tag on the next line when pressing ctrl + shift + f in this: <div id="main_view"><c:if test='${param.data_params}'>
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[14:52:41] <mooooo> Hello.
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[14:53:15] <mooooo> Which book about Eclipse RCP is recommendable?
[14:53:51] <mooooo> Are books about Eclipse 3.4 RCP development useless for Eclipse 3.5 RCP development?
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[15:05:26] <LCamel> hi all
[15:06:28] <LCamel> Is it possible to have different sets of plugins ? (without extracting many copies of eclipse)
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[16:32:41] <ccrisan> quick question about eclipse+pydev: how can I configure eclipse to run a certain run configuration regardless of the currently edited source file (which for the moment is automatically chosen to be run)?
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[17:31:53] <psst> How do I enable assertions in the Java compiler in Ganymede?
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[17:34:28] <psst> oh, it's a flag to the runtime, not the compiler
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[18:01:15] <the-moog> Hi, help with CDT please:  I have am auto-generated C file. I need to ensure it is re-compiled with every build, how to I tell eclipse to assume its dependency is out of date?
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[18:01:56] <the-moog> ...That is without deleting the final object and re-building the entire project each time.
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[18:21:31] <soopos> How can you debug your Java code which does not have main?
[18:26:12] <finalbeta> Hello, I currently use Visual studio for .NET, dreamweaver for PHP/web and Netbeans for Java. Can I combine all of these in Eclipse? I should probably keep Visual studio because I it probably the best for .NET. I'm sure Eclipse is great for Java. But how does it compare to dreamweaver. Can I download the Eclyse for java and add plugins or something for PHP, css, html etc etc?
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[18:40:37] <rhk> soopos: have a look a junit
[18:41:49] <rhk> finalbeta: I've not used dreamweaver for php, so I can't compare them, but I can tell you that yes, you can download the eclipse java ide then install the php/css/html tooling on top of that.
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[18:42:56] <finalbeta> thanks for the response rhk
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[18:44:43] <rhk> finalbeta: I have only used the php tooling a little, but does seem decent.
[18:45:26] <rhk> you are correct about the .NET stuff, you probably are better off in VS right now. Hopefully that will change later :)
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[19:11:56] <vwegert> Where can I find the code that parses and evaluates the bundle versions?
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[19:16:43] <VisezTrance> Hi, I'm receiving the following error when tring to install a jboss plugin: Missing requirement: Jsp Editor Plug-in 3.0.2.v200909151014R-H192-GA (org.jboss.tools.jst.jsp 3.0.2.v200909151014R-H192-GA) requires 'bundle org.eclipse.wst.javascript.core 0.0.0' but it could not be found
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[19:17:38] <VisezTrance> I've tried installing the eclipse webtools, but it still doesn't work.
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[19:18:57] <rcjsuen> ~tell ccrisan about contextual-launching
[19:18:57] <Arbalest> ccrisan: Having problems with Eclipse 3.3 and up not launching whatever you just launched when you hit the keybinding? You probably contextual launchin set - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Why_is_Eclipse_launching_the_current_file_I_have_open_instead_of_whatever_I_last_launched.3F
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[19:33:47] <soopos> How can you enable the automatic returning type checking?
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[19:38:56] <rcjsuen> Automatic return type checking?
[19:39:43] <nitind> the what?
[19:40:09] <deSilva> the who?
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[19:59:15] <FireFly> Hi. As I've understood it, syntax highlighting settings are saved in a per-workspace fashion. Can I change it so that all workspaces use the same setting? Or, can you guide me to what files contains these settings, so I can copy it over to new workspaces?
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[20:00:10] <rcjsuen> just use file export to export/import the prefs?
[20:00:59] <FireFly> Oh, there's such a dialog? Neat
[20:01:39] <FireFly> Though symlinking all files to point to a central one would probably be easier to work with, so that I can change the settings in one workspace and have it affect all
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[20:31:21] <ccrisan> rcjsuen, thank you, that's what I was looking for
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[20:32:54] <w0lfshad3> anyone remembers what's the name of that java decompler addon for eclipse and can link me to it?
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[20:59:32] <soopos> rcjsuen: Yes, I mean Automatic return type checking
[20:59:50] <rcjsuen> soopos: I'm not sure I know what that means, but I only code in Java.
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[21:04:52] <soopos> rcjsuen: It means to inform you about the type error such as "in using boolean in the place integer" as you are writing your code
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[21:05:14] <rcjsuen> It already does that for me, for Java development anyway.
[21:05:30] <rcjsuen> Well, asssuming you properly typed your method signature's return value.
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[21:05:50] <rcjsuen> But maybe I'm missing. DO you have an example?
[21:06:49] <soopos> rcjsuen: This code: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153516/
[21:07:59] <rcjsuen> I'm not even sure how you could have a main method without a class.
[21:10:00] <soopos> rcjsuen: I put a class declaration to the code, but the problem persists.
[21:10:14] <soopos> rcjsuen: The file is a component of a larger system.
[21:11:48] <rcjsuen> soopos: Can you reproduce the problem in a new Java project?
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[21:18:27] <soopos> rcjsuen: I cannot reproduce the problem for a single file. It occurs if I import the given zip -file. This suggests me that the zip file disables some default settings
[21:19:09] <rcjsuen> I guess it is not imported as a Java project.
[21:20:51] <soopos> rcjsuen: How can you import as a Java project? - I import by File > Import > General(Archieve file)...
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[21:22:36] <rcjsuen> I would just unzip it, make a new Java project, and throw the stuff in the project probably
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[21:29:46] <soopos> rcjsuen: Thank you! The bug was the incorrect use of importing a new java project to the system.
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[21:30:40] <slide> Is there any work to remove the workspace? I REALLY hate having to specify a "home" directory and have everything below that, or having to import existing projects into my workspace rather then just opening a project
[21:31:29] <rcjsuen> slide: Well, opening a "random" project would be similar to importing a "random" project so they seem like the same thing to me.
[21:32:05] <slide> but what if its not in your workspace
[21:32:44] <rcjsuen> slide: I don't think anyone ever said projects have to be in your ws.
[21:33:10] <soopos> How can you edit project properties?
[21:34:18] <rcjsuen> soopos: similar to how you examine things in a browser, right-click on it and go to Properties
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[21:36:49] <soopos> rcjsuen: Thank you! I did not know that is so easy by clicking the error :)
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[21:41:41] <tom17bombadil> i want to control some (non-eclipse-) applications from inside eclipse: start them -which gives them the focus - and after some other work in my eclipse-app, get the focus back. is there some bridge to the underlying windowing-system?
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