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[00:23:06] <NfNitLoop> My "Available Software Sites" config seems to be empty.   I'm googling trying to find the ones that Eclipse generally installs by default...
[00:23:10] <NfNitLoop> but not having much luck.
[00:23:27] <NfNitLoop> Can anyone point me to a page w/ that info, or maybe copy & paste your own? :)
[00:23:55] <NfNitLoop> I installed eclipse via Ubuntu 9.10's apt-get and apparently it doesn't populate that.  *sigh*
[00:24:23] <NfNitLoop> actually, maybe I should just uninstall it and download directly from eclipse.org
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[00:50:28] <evil-sheek> Hi, I need help with minor problem, I'm running Eclipse remotely on the same network, I don't want to configure php.ini manually, for it to get dead lock onto one client, Is there way I can tell Eclipse to pass a param to the url, to tell xdebug, what client to connect to?
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[01:02:13] <d_a_carver> evil-sheek: I think you have to modify the php.ini, that's the only way that I know of to use PDT and XDebug.
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[01:03:35] <d_a_carver> evil-sheek: you might be able to do it through the launch configuration but not sure: http://devzone.zend.com/article/2930
[01:03:49] <evil-sheek> thanks
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[01:44:50] <AbortRetryFail> I've got Eclipse installed and i tried to use the help -> install new software to install the android ddms and dev tools, but i keep getting this error:   Missing requirement: Android Development Tools 0.9.4.v200910220141-17704 (com.android.ide.eclipse.adt.feature.group 0.9.4.v200910220141-17704) requires 'org.eclipse.wst.xml.core 0.0.0' but it could not be found
[01:45:05] <AbortRetryFail> Anybody know what would cause that? I'm running Eclipse classic 3.5.0 on Linux
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[01:47:45] <paulweb515_> AbortRetryFail: it's missing part of webtools
[01:48:05] <paulweb515_> AbortRetryFail: I'd guess XML Editor and Tools (installable from the Galileo discovery site)
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[01:49:12] <paulweb515_> Yes, it's part of XML Editors and Tools
[01:49:43] <AbortRetryFail> ok, know where i can get it?
[01:50:04] <mobidroid> Hi there, I'm under a fresh install of Karmic Koala and eclipse acting wierd, I can't seem to click on buttons in wizard. I can focus on the buttons using the mouse left click but I need to push enter each time I want it to "register" the action. Anyone here saw this bug. I lack the skill to find good keywords on google to find this bug
[01:51:39] <mobidroid> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/443004
[01:51:53] <mobidroid> nevermind look like my weak keywords finaly found something :)
[01:56:14] <mobidroid> Anyway thanks for reading, long live to all
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[01:57:31] <d_a_carver> AbortRetryFail: Go to Help->Install Software->Web, XML
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[01:58:01] <d_a_carver> AbortRetryFail: select the galileo discovery site and then install the XML Editor.
[01:58:10] <AbortRetryFail> I don't see a galileo discovery site.
[01:58:14] <AbortRetryFail> that's why i asked.
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[01:59:13] <d_a_carver> AbortRetryFail: http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo/
[01:59:23] <d_a_carver> add that to your available software sites
[01:59:48] <AbortRetryFail> alright! now we're cooking with gas.
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[02:19:03] <jmspeex> Is it possible to create a project in a directory that is already populated?
[02:19:47] <NfNitLoop> populated by... the files you want to put into that project?
[02:19:49] <NfNitLoop> Yes.
[02:19:59] <NfNitLoop> bzr init .; bzr add .; bzr commit -m "initial checkin"  :)
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[02:22:18] <jmspeex> NfNitLoop: But how do I create an eclipse project there?
[02:22:56] <jmspeex> Basically, I'm trying to switch from kdevelop to eclipse without having to copy everything in another directory
[02:24:32] <NfNitLoop> oh.  hahaha.
[02:24:38] <NfNitLoop> sorry, I thought this was #bzr. :)
[02:24:50] <jmspeex> No, I use git :-)
[02:25:01] <NfNitLoop> file -> new -> project -> Project with existing sources
[02:25:06] <NfNitLoop> if I remember correctly.
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[02:26:07] <NfNitLoop> as for git... why do you use that and not bzr? :)
[02:26:14] <NfNitLoop> (Just curious if I should switch.) :p
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[02:27:23] <jmspeex> NfNitLoop: The main reason is that I gave it a try and it worked much better than svn
[02:27:39] <NfNitLoop> aah.  Yes, many things work better than svn. :)
[02:27:49] <jmspeex> i.e. I can give you many reasons to use git over svn, but none over bzr simply because I don't know about the differences at all
[02:28:00] <NfNitLoop> aah, ok.
[02:28:36] <NfNitLoop> I've played around with git a bit and bzr just seems to have a nicer interface.
[02:28:37] <jmspeex> Well, the fact that git is being used for the kernel means that it's unlikely to go away any time soon
[02:28:46] <NfNitLoop> Plus it can integrate with svn really well.
[02:28:57] <NfNitLoop> You can treat a svn branch just as if it were a bzr branch.
[02:29:04] <NfNitLoop> *nod*
[02:29:05] <jmspeex> which is a real consideration considering how many times I've been burned with OSS projects that just got discontinued for "something better"
[02:29:16] <NfNitLoop> Bzr is used for Ubuntu packages.
[02:29:36] <jmspeex> ...which is also why I'm trying to switch to eclipse (from kdevelop) for developping CELT and Speex
[02:29:45] <NfNitLoop> cool.
[02:30:00] <jmspeex> git actually has decent svn compat as well
[02:30:17] <jmspeex> as far as I'm concerned, git is the best svn client I know of :-)
[02:30:47] <NfNitLoop> one thing I never did research enough...
[02:31:03] <NfNitLoop> if you push git stuff into SVN... does it keep its metadata?  Like changeset IDs and all that?
[02:31:45] <jmspeex> nope, and that's the part that sucks
[02:31:52] <NfNitLoop> ah. bzr does. ;)
[02:31:56] <jmspeex> it doesn't even keep the date
[02:32:22] <jmspeex> basically, what it does is equivalent to an svn commit and then git rebases based on that svn commit
[02:32:36] <jmspeex> but I dumped SVN now, so it's no longer an issue!
[02:33:03] <jmspeex> well, except for my job stuff :-)
[02:34:40] <NfNitLoop> heh, yeah.  If I could just go all-out DSCM, it might be more of an even playing field between git/hg/bzr
[02:34:51] <NfNitLoop> but when I have to interoperate with svn, bzr wins.
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[02:48:12] <jmspeex> NfNitLoop: what does bzr do. It's not like it can ask the svn server to set a time in the past, no?
[02:49:03] <jmspeex> Just curious, anyone here uses the autotools support in eclipse?
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[02:52:48] <NfNitLoop> jmspeex: To SVN users, it looks like a regular commit.  But bzr (well, the bzr-svn plugin, but that's transparent to the user) stores its metadata in svn properties.
[02:53:18] <NfNitLoop> so anyone who checks out the thing from svn with bzr can see the merges.
[02:53:37] <NfNitLoop> thus it also makes merging in SVN way easier if you can do it all with bzr. :p
[02:53:57] <NfNitLoop> anwyay, don't want to flood #eclipse too much, #bzr is there if you have more questions. :)
[02:56:21] <jmspeex> In any case, now I'm trying to find out how to tell eclipse to run ./autogen.sh and ./configure
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[04:12:08] <rcjsuen> jmspeex: You may be interested in the autotools plug-in from the Eclipse Linuxtools project.
[04:12:36] <jmspeex> rcjsuen: yes, that's what I'm using at the moment, but so far I haven't been able to do much with it
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[07:28:59] <jojo_> hi quick questions about building eclipse on windows: in the build.properties file when setting path names is it ok to leave out the drive? i.e. instead of "C:/Program Files/..." have "/Program Files/"
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[08:29:22] <synx-> Hey guys, newb eclipse user here.
[08:29:45] <synx-> Actually, let me see if I can figure this out
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[08:31:28] <synx-> Ok well anyway, I loaded up a project and all of the files are shown in some sort of flat package view, instead of as nested folders.
[08:31:34] <synx-> Any ideas/reason?
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[09:01:29] <nitind> synx-: Because when you're programming Java, the package and class structure is the information you're usually interested in.  The folder layout is something the IDE can just take care of for you, but if you really want that, you can change the way it's show in the Package Explorer or just open and use the Navigator View instead.
[09:02:47] <synx-> Okay, well it just doesn't make sense when you have an extremely large project (500+ files) to have them all shown in some sort of seemingly haphazard fashion.
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[09:09:53] <nitind> It's not haphazard--presumably you picked the packages.
[09:10:32] <synx-> Well yea, hence "seemingly"
[09:10:47] <synx-> Your point is well received though.
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[09:36:33] <electronoob> I would like to preface my question with, I'm retarded
[09:36:59] <electronoob> I was trying to set up eclipse so that I could start working with Android apps
[09:37:19] <electronoob> I was missing some dependencies to install the Android developer tools
[09:37:28] <electronoob> I started by installing each one manually
[09:37:36] <electronoob> Eventually I became frustrated
[09:37:39] <electronoob> SO I did this
[09:37:47] <electronoob> yum install eclipse*
[09:38:00] <electronoob> Effectively installing all eclipse plugins and accessories
[09:38:06] <electronoob> now when I start eclipse
[09:38:27] <electronoob> The galileo box appears
[09:38:40] <electronoob> Java takes 90% or my processor
[09:38:44] <electronoob> It's been over 15 minutes
[09:38:56] <electronoob> and I have yet to get the eclipse window
[09:39:20] <electronoob> Is there a simple solution to unbork eclipse?
[09:44:59] <electronoob> Well I removed the package and then reinstalled it with no luck, I'm going to try restarting and praying to the gods
[09:45:12] <electronoob> Wish me luck or at least don't actively hate me
[09:45:13] <electronoob> bbl
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[09:51:40] <electronoob> Spotty internet is spotty
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[09:59:11] <electronoob> Now uninstalling all eclipse packages
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[10:23:03] <bushwakko> hey, can anyone help me out with this one: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=296091
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[11:02:13] <matrium> hi
[11:02:35] <matrium> is it possible to change the way URI are saved in gmf diagrams?
[11:02:51] <matrium> I have a model file for my diagram
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[11:03:00] <matrium> and the reference to the file is always saved absolute
[11:03:59] <matrium> like <element xmi:type="odm:OWLClass" href="file:/import/users/users..../ontology1.odm#// at OWLClass dot 3" />
[11:04:16] <matrium> I want that href to be relative to the location of my diagram file
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[12:13:53] <reisi> is there a way to output a project resource file into console so that eclipse would pick it up and show it as a link? (ie clicking it would open the resource file)
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[12:47:17] <paulweb515_> reisi: I don't think so, unless the cheatsheet system uses a servlet to allow text to be posted
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[13:33:04] <ttwhy> Hi, does someone know where to find the Ecore.ecore file? iam searching thrue the downloadable source, but i cant find it yet
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[13:39:10] <erdal> anyone has an example on how to use org.eclipse.equinox.http.registry.resources?
[13:39:31] <erdal> (extension point)
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[14:40:36] <mmmmm> Hello.
[14:41:13] <mmmmm> Is there a widget gallery for SWT? I mean screenshots. http://www.eclipse.org/swt/
[14:41:31] <mmmmm> http://www.eclipse.org/swt/widgets/
[14:41:34] <mmmmm> :-)
[14:41:38] <bushwakko> Anyone tried and gotten Eclipselink on OSGI working?
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[15:33:12] <jaimesilva> good morning, I'm having a problem with eclipse 3.5 on Debian testing...
[15:33:28] <Gaius2459> hi
[15:33:42] <jaimesilva> In some dialogs when I click "Next" nothing happens
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[15:34:03] <jaimesilva> hi Gaius2459
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[15:34:59] <jaimesilva> I dl the binary tar for linux amd64 and I'm using sun jdk 1.6 for amd64
[15:35:08] <Gaius2459> I just installed Subversive and now it asks me which Connector i want to use: SVN Kit 1.1.7, 1.2.3, 1.3.0, Native JavaHL 1.5.4, 1.6.3. What should I use for html&js development?
[15:35:17] <jaimesilva> uncompressed it on my home dir
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[15:36:49] <jaimesilva> when I tried to install the GWT plugin added the URL in the plugin dialog and then selected the plugins in the list but when I pressed "Next" nothing happened
[15:37:51] <jaimesilva> so I installed the plugin manually but now when I try to configure the GWT installation I select gwt's path and press "Next" and nothing happens
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[15:48:45] <rcjsuen> jaimesilva: See FAQ in topic with regards to your button problem.
[15:49:16] <rcjsuen> Gaius2459: That is a question of which "protocol" to use for communicating with the Subversion server and nothing to do with "I write HTML and JavaScript" actually.
[15:52:40] <Gaius2459> rcjsuen: I use a local repository, is there a way to see which I need?
[15:52:53] <rcjsuen> I guess protocol was the wrong word.
[15:53:04] <rcjsuen> Let's say "implementation of the Subversion protocol" instead.
[15:53:23] <Gaius2459> rcjsuen: ok, and how can  see which I need?^^
[15:53:30] <rcjsuen> Gaius2459: Either should work.
[15:54:22] <Gaius2459> rcjsuen: ah..ok, so they are just different implementations
[15:54:22] <Gaius2459> Would you recommand one?
[15:54:32] <rcjsuen> I don't use Subversion.
[15:57:44] <jaimesilva> rcjsuen: thanks a lot
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[16:03:24] <Gaius2459> rcjsuen: ok, thx
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[16:09:39] <rcjsuen> So it seems the workbench code directly calls Runtime.getRuntime().exec... to invoke a macapp.app file. I don't believe SWT's Program API can help me launch it, can it? Since the Program API seems to only know about file extensions.
[16:10:00] <wolfshade> having some trouble with eclipse and javascript inside a jsp; eclipse sais unreachable code and more, but it's actually valid code, any way to fix this?
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[16:12:40] <wolfshade> it's not inside the jsp actually it's after it
[16:15:37] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: Program.launch("/Applications/TextEdit.app"); works for me
[16:15:53] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: hm, but i need to send it the argument (the file in question)
[16:16:32] <rcjsuen> we do like -> Runtime.getRuntime().exec(new String[] { programFileName, path });
[16:17:25] <rcjsuen> Well, that didn't fly on windows anyway
[16:17:29] <rcjsuen> Program.launch("C:\\Windows\\Notepad.exe C:\\test.txt");
[16:21:06] <wolfshade> i now put the javascript in its own file and eclipse validator still sais: http://pastebin.com/d273fce2
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[16:21:34] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: it would need to be more like :Program p = Program.findProgram(".txt");
[16:21:34] <krbarnes> 		p.execute("/Users/kevin/Desktop/patch.txt");
[16:21:43] <rcjsuen> indeed
[16:21:55] <rcjsuen> the bug is https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=288624 which Lakshmi tagged as see also to https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=204582
[16:22:38] <wolfshade> i'm using eclipse ganymede, anyone knows anything about my problem please?
[16:22:45] <rcjsuen> lemme try an alternate workflow and see if i can get it to work
[16:23:30] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: Runtime.exec is ok... you should exec("open your.app filename") though
[16:23:43] <rcjsuen> I need to add "open"?
[16:23:46] * rcjsuen shudders.
[16:24:07] <krbarnes> ~pastebin
[16:24:08] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[16:24:44] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: here's the usage info for open
[16:24:44] <krbarnes> http://pastebin.ca/1686910
[16:25:11] <rcjsuen> Maybe I need to add good ol' Util.isMac()
[16:25:35] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: my battery is almost dead and I have to get to the office. I'll be back online in 15 min.
[16:25:41] <rcjsuen> k, ttyl
[16:25:43] <rcjsuen> thx for the help
[16:25:48] <krbarnes> np
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[16:26:20] <wolfshade> should i just disable the eclipse javascript validator? http://pastebin.com/d273fce2
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[16:33:42] <bigjay> Hi
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[16:43:06] <NfNitLoop> Hrmm.  I'm in the "Available Software Sites" window and seem to be completely unable to edit, enable, or disable any of the sites listed there.  (Though checking for new software seems to work...)
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[16:52:57] <NfNitLoop> Oh.
[16:52:58] <NfNitLoop> very odd.
[16:53:01] <NfNitLoop> I can't click on the buttons.
[16:53:09] <NfNitLoop> but I can hit the spacebar to activate them.
[16:53:09] <NfNitLoop> >.<
[16:53:20] <NfNitLoop> I saw this in some other SWT widgets the other day.  *sigh*
[16:53:30] <deSilva> known problem
[16:53:38] <NfNitLoop> is there a workaround?
[16:53:41] <NfNitLoop> or fix?
[16:53:50] <deSilva> yes, check the FAQ
[16:54:04] <NfNitLoop> or a page detailing the problem?   *googles*
[16:54:14] <NfNitLoop> SWT FAQ?  or Eclipse?
[16:55:00] <paulweb515_> NfNitLoop: /topic
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[16:55:38] <NfNitLoop> ah, thanks.
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[17:04:17] <NfNitLoop> How shameful, to be someone who asked something that was in the FAQ. :p
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[17:04:27] <NfNitLoop> I think it's the first time, though.  :)
[17:04:38] <rcjsuen> NfNitLoop: First time...what? :o
[17:04:40] <NfNitLoop> well, my first time.  aaanyway.  Thanks!
[17:04:49] <paulweb515_> NfNitLoop: not shameful ... that's why we point you to the FAQ instead of ridiculing you :-)
[17:05:23] <rcjsuen> NfNitLoop: Every day we have several users asking that same question so I don't think anyone reads IRC topics these days. :P
[17:06:02] <NfNitLoop> hehe.  Well, it's just so rare for a channel to have anything useful in there...
[17:06:17] <NfNitLoop> other than "Hey look!  Our latest release!"
[17:06:54] <NfNitLoop> which is the only part that displays on my topic line in irssi. ;)
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[17:20:25] <theoretically> i had eclipse europa for a period then i delete it and i put eclipse Galileo
[17:20:25] <theoretically> and i have a problem now, an error message:the version JVM 1.4.2_03 is not suitable, 1.5 or greater is required
[17:20:49] <theoretically>  i don't know what to do?
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[17:21:04] <paulweb515_> theoretically: some parts of Galileo won't run unless you run on 1.5
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[17:21:20] <paulweb515_> theoretically: get a 1.5 or 1.6 JVM ... http://java.sun.com is a good place to start
[17:21:42] <theoretically> i did it but i doesn't work
[17:22:00] <theoretically> the message still appears
[17:22:01] <rcjsuen> your system VM may not have changed then, that's my guess
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[17:22:27] <theoretically> how can i change the VM system?
[17:23:06] <d_a_carver> theoretically: what os are you running?>
[17:23:11] <rcjsuen> that'd depend on your os
[17:23:22] <theoretically> windows xp
[17:25:01] <rcjsuen> in control panel i think
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[17:28:21] <theoretically> where exactly in control panel?
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[17:29:47] <yann|work> any egit guys around ?
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[17:33:14] <theoretically> how can i see the version of JVM now in cmd.exe ?
[17:33:21] <theoretically> i put -VM ?
[17:34:51] <rcjsuen> just run 'java -version'
[17:35:26] <rcjsuen> yann|work: Taking a poll?
[17:35:35] <rcjsuen> seems someone wrote a jdt refactoring article http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-eclipse-refactoring/index.html?ca=dgr-lnxw07Refractoringdth-OS&S_TACT=105AGX59&S_CMP=grlnxw07
[17:36:29] <yann|work> rcjsuen: mostly checking if it's worth asking a question here, or if I should try the git ml :)
[17:36:45] <rcjsuen> nvr hurts to just ask the question
[17:36:55] <rcjsuen> if no one answers, copy/paste your question to the forums or something ;)
[17:37:11] <yann|work> the question is about importing a git repo containing multiple eclipse projects
[17:37:44] <yann|work> when importing a git repo, we get a list of projects to import, but the list is empty
[17:38:09] <yann|work> so I was wondering what is expected by egit to get this list filled
[17:40:29] <theoretically> java version 1.4.2_03
[17:43:17] <theoretically> so?
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[17:46:34] <rcjsuen> yann|work: I was of the opinion that it scanned for .project files. There's a bug open about the scanning, may or may not be related.
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[17:47:14] <rcjsuen> theoretically: Well there should be a Java section in the control panel. If not, I dunno. You could always just edit your ~eclipse.ini file directly and point Eclipse elsewhere (to your 1.5 / 1.6 installation).
[17:47:14] <Arbalest> Want to set startup flags for eclipse, like -vm, -vmargs, or -consolelog? Edit your eclipse.ini file. - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse.ini - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_run_Eclipse%3F#eclipse.ini
[17:48:28] <theoretically> ok thank you rcjsuen
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[18:11:33] <jelly-bean1> my eclipse GUI buttons keep getting stuck down--i can't click. they appear depressed. the only way to click themwith the mouse is to click outside the button, drag onto it, and release the button on top of it. then it will consider it a click when that happens. i can always use the keyboard to get around as an alternative, but this is super annoying. it seems to do it on scrollbars and textfields as well--trapping focus on
[18:12:01] <paulweb515_> jelly-bean1: on a latest linux gtk+ version?
[18:13:13] <d_a_carver> jelly-bean1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/458703
[18:13:18] <jelly-bean1> paulweb515_: probably. it has been reproduced on 3 machines so far. one being arch linux distro--after we upgraded to latest ver of that os, and when we upgraded from Ubuntu jaunty to the latest (karmic)
[18:13:26] <jelly-bean1> on the other two machines
[18:13:48] <d_a_carver> jelly-bean1: need to set GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 environment variable before launching eclipse.
[18:14:28] <d_a_carver> jelly-bean1: it's a known issue..fixed apparently in 3.6M2 but hasn't made it back to 3.5.x yet
[18:17:09] <jelly-bean1> whats the easiest way to set the env var
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[18:17:19] <jelly-bean1> in the .bashrc or make an eclipse.sh?
[18:18:13] <monk12> hey all, my eclipse is slow as hell always. from starting up its takes up a good chunk of CPU (like 75%) and gradually over 30m heads to 99%. Anything to do? restarting eclipse doesnt help, just ends up doing same things.
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[18:19:34] <rcjsuen> monk12: more ~info would help
[18:19:34] <Arbalest> Please state a) your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), b) operating system (Windows, Linux, OSX, etc.), c) your Java runtime environment (please verify by checking your ~logs or in the about dialog's ~jre section. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), d) your Eclipse version, and e) where did you get Eclipse from (eclipse.org, distro repository, etc.).
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[18:23:01] <monk12> Arbalest: x86; WinXP; jre1.5.0_18; Eclipse 3.4.2, believe i got if from eclipse.org/PDT (all in one php version of eclipse)
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[18:31:55] <paulweb515_> monk12: are you working on a network drive?
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[18:46:16] <monk12> possibly. i believe my Doc&Settings/Desktop where workspace is is really a fileshare on server (so if computer crashes, the contents are 'safe')
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[18:46:55] <monk12> well actually my workspace is in c:/dev, but Desktop/MyDocs are fileshares.
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[18:47:35] <notk0> hello I am currently under Linux Mint (based on Ubuntu) I installed eclipse from the repositories but I lack the source code and documentation for java classes
[18:47:39] <notk0> such as string for example
[18:48:00] <notk0> how could I add them?
[18:48:08] <paulweb515_> monk12: I just bring it up because eclipse contacts its workspace regularly ... if the workspace contents are on a share, it shows up as "slow"
[18:48:11] <notk0> I have both OpenJDK and sun JDK currently sun JDK is in use
[18:48:15] <paulweb515_> ~deadlocks
[18:48:19] <paulweb515_> ~deadlock
[18:48:22] <Arbalest> In a deadlock? http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/How_to_report_a_deadlock
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[18:48:54] <paulweb515_> monk12: if you find it seems to be really slow all the time during a specific operation, you can use the instructions on the deadlock page to take a stack trace snapshot and find out what eclipse is doing
[18:49:10] <paulweb515_> notk0: go to Window>Preferences>java>Installed JREs
[18:49:18] <monk12> ok cool, ill check that out.
[18:49:39] <paulweb515_> notk0: eclipse usually detects the correct src.zip for free, but if it doesn't you can attach it in that preference page
[18:49:56] <notk0> paulweb515_ i see let me try
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[18:52:56] <toulmean> hey, what would be the safest way to delete all the files inside a folder in a workspace ?
[18:53:25] <toulmean> I mean, so far we do : for (IResource resource : folder.members()) { resource.delete(true, pm) }
[18:53:44] <toulmean> but in some occasions that throws an error, complaining the file we are trying to delete doesn't exist.
[18:54:01] <toulmean> Should we use a ResourceVisitor ?
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[18:54:17] <d_a_carver> toulmean: are you refreshing the workspace before you delete.
[18:54:21] <rcjsuen> couldn't you just check exists first?
[18:54:25] <toulmean> d_a_carver: actually we do.
[18:54:31] <toulmean> rcjsuen: and we also check for exists.
[18:54:36] <rcjsuen> oh well then
[18:54:51] <rcjsuen> i kno there are resources discrepancies on win/linux
[18:54:53] <toulmean> rcjsuen: I take that back. We don't check for exists.
[18:54:54] <rcjsuen> mostly observed in tests
[18:55:05] <toulmean> rcjsuen: but we do a local refresh.
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[18:55:10] <rcjsuen> where deleting doesn't really delete cuz windows has a lock, or something like that
[18:55:11] <toulmean> rcjsuen: interesting.
[18:55:15] <rcjsuen> or that's linux, but anyway, it's annoying
[18:55:26] <toulmean> rcjsuen: yes, observed on windows, mac works fine.
[18:55:43] <toulmean> rcjsuen: so just checking for exists should be enough ?
[18:55:49] <ronghail_> after debug-as how do you get back to the dev layout?
[18:56:07] <toulmean> ronghail_: Window>Swith Perspective
[18:56:08] <notk0> paulweb515_ there doesn't seem to be any src.zip in my /usr/lib/jvm :(
[18:56:13] <d_a_carver> toulmean: not if windows has it locked for some reason.
[18:56:17] <ronghail_> thanks
[18:56:20] <paulweb515_> notk0: that would do it
[18:56:36] <toulmean> d_a_carver: so what do I do ? should I consider just ignoring the exception ?
[18:56:37] <paulweb515_> notk0: are you sure you got the JDK and not a JRE by accident?
[18:57:14] <paulweb515_> (it might be src.jar now)
[18:57:20] <notk0> paulweb515_ I wouln't be able to compile without a jdk right?
[18:57:32] <paulweb515_> notk0: eclipse will happily compile for you
[18:57:45] <paulweb515_> notk0: eclipse doesn't use javac, it has ecj (the eclipse compiler)
[18:57:46] <notk0> paulweb515_ it comes with the javac ?
[18:57:49] <notk0> oh
[18:57:56] <notk0> I didn't know that
[18:58:06] <paulweb515_> notk0: is supports the extra features you need in eclipse, like incremental build
[18:58:16] <paulweb515_> s/is supp/it supp/
[18:58:20] <notk0> what is incremental build?
[18:58:41] <notk0> I do have javac though technically I must have jdk as well
[18:58:45] <d_a_carver> toulmean: can you try a canWrite() file method, that will tell you if it's locked or not.
[18:59:12] <toulmean> d_a_carver: so, first delete. If exception, canWrite ?
[18:59:18] <d_a_carver> toulmean: if you can write it, then you should be able to delete it.
[18:59:28] <toulmean> d_a_carver: ok, the other way around then.
[18:59:34] <d_a_carver> toulmean: correct
[18:59:40] <toulmean> d_a_carver: but you know I need to delete this file...
[18:59:59] <toulmean> d_a_carver: so what do I do if I cannot delete this file.
[19:00:03] <toulmean> :)
[19:00:07] <toulmean> d_a_carver: oh well.
[19:00:24] <notk0> does anybody know were jdk is installed on linux systems usually
[19:00:25] <d_a_carver> toulmean: report an error...and write some unit tests to figure out why you can't delete it.
[19:00:26] <notk0> ?
[19:01:00] <toulmean> d_a_carver: ok. No easy solution but at least I can skip the error.
[19:01:00] <d_a_carver> toulmean: something has it open...either eclipse still does, or something has a file handle to it still that wasn't properly closed.
[19:01:17] <toulmean> d_a_carver: oh.
[19:01:39] <toulmean> d_a_carver: ok, makes sense. I was so busy with this discrepancy I didn't think of a file handle in Eclipse.
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[19:04:18] <paulweb515_> notk0: then there should be a src.jar or src.zip in java related directories somewhere
[19:04:47] <paulweb515_> notk0: find /usr/lib/jvm -name "src.*"
[19:05:27] <notk0> nothing found :|
[19:06:56] <paulweb515_> notk0: try all of your java and jvm directories
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[19:07:11] <paulweb515_> notk0: find /usr/lib/jvm* /usr/lib/java* -name "src.*"
[19:07:29] <stermi> hi all, sorry for the noob question: which is the best tool to create gui ( i'm talking about eclipse plugin ) for awt ?
[19:08:04] <notk0> bash: /usr/lib/jvm: is a directory
[19:08:08] <rcjsuen> AWT is pretty old, I'm not even sure if any tools supporting creating AWT Uis.
[19:08:30] <paulweb515_> notk0: yes, did you include the "find ..." part :-)
[19:08:37] <stermi> rcjsuen, so what do you suggest me to use for a program's gui?
[19:08:42] <paulweb515_> stermi: no one uses AWT, actually
[19:08:51] <rcjsuen> paulweb515_: except stermi >:)
[19:08:51] <stermi> what can you suggest me?
[19:08:52] <paulweb515_> stermi: you can use Swing or SWT
[19:08:53] <notk0> nothing damn it
[19:09:16] <stermi> :D i'm used to use qtjambi :)
[19:09:18] <paulweb515_> stermi: what are you trying to do, anyway?  You just want to create a java app with a minimal UI on top?
[19:09:32] <rcjsuen> Then why don't you keep using QtJambi? :o
[19:09:40] <stermi> i've to create a minimal media center
[19:09:53] <stermi> couse it's not a "personal job"
[19:10:04] <stermi> and qtjambi is dead
[19:11:03] <notk0> paulweb515_ apparently I have to install sun-java6-source as well :\
[19:11:07] <notk0> thanks anyway
[19:11:21] <notk0> paulweb515_ will eclipse recursively try to look for it?
[19:11:28] <notk0> or does it expect it to be in a certain place?
[19:11:29] <rcjsuen> notk0: Thanks for sharing your solution.
[19:11:35] <toulmean> d_a_carver: no such thing as canWrite method in IResource or IFile
[19:11:44] <rcjsuen> toulmean: that's a java.io.File method actually
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[19:12:03] <toulmean> rcjsuen: so should I reach to the File object ?
[19:12:39] <rcjsuen> I didn't really follow your convo with Dave completely
[19:12:44] <stermi> anyway, I will give a chance for qtjmabi, but while waiting, can u suggest me a swing gui designer?
[19:12:52] <rcjsuen> ~tell stermi about java-gui
[19:12:54] <Arbalest> stermi: Looking for a Java GUI designer plug-in for Eclipse? Go take a look at the *free* Visual Editor (http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE), Visual Swing for Eclipse (http://code.google.com/p/visualswing4eclipse/), Instantiations' *commercial* WindowBuilder (http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilderpro/), and/or Jigloo (http://www.cloudgarden.com/jigloo/) , which is *free for non-commercial use*.
[19:13:02] <toulmean> rcjsuen: so Dave is telling me about locks on Windows.
[19:13:18] <toulmean> rcjsuen: and that I can know for sure if I can delete something if canWrite returns true.
[19:13:30] <rcjsuen> that seems to make sense
[19:13:51] <toulmean> rcjsuen: hey, it looks like phantoms are returned when doing members
[19:13:54] <stermi> thank you rcjsuen
[19:14:09] <toulmean> rcjsuen: what happens if you try to delete a IResource that is in phantom state ?
[19:14:14] <rcjsuen> I've not tried.
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[19:14:29] <rcjsuen> I was going to suggest using IFileStore instead of File but I guess since IFile goes to IFileStore the results may be the same.
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[19:15:45] <toulmean> rcjsuen: I have a suspicion that maybe some phantom is returned from members, and even after a refresh on that folder.
[19:15:58] <toulmean> rcjsuen: so you don't only need to refresh, you also need to ask for exists.
[19:16:08] <toulmean> rcjsuen: that's my theory at this point
[19:16:22] <toulmean> rcjsuen: I'll implement a couple warnings see how it goes.
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[19:47:11] <ronghail_> I am new to a helpful editor.   when I start typing print "foo    it puts the end quote to the right of my cursor.  what is the proper way to use that?  hit the END key when I am done typing the string?
[19:47:30] <ronghail_> or the right arrow or something?
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[19:53:32] <paulweb515_> ronghail_: if you simply type the close " it will skip out
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[19:53:37] <paulweb515_> ronghail_: also if you TAB
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[19:54:07] <ronghail_> ok thanks
[19:55:03] <thielmann> Does anyone if there's someone working on JavaScript binding including DOM support for XWT? I was able to find some rudimentary information on JavaScript, but I'd love to know if e4 could be an alternative to xulrunner.
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[19:56:07] <nitind> Interesting idea.
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[20:14:40] <monk12> quick question. i had checked out a project from SVN via Subclipse... i installing another version of Eclipse to test it out... I imported the project into Eclipse... should eclipse/subclipse immediately recognize its an SVN repository and allow me to commit etc? it seems like it isn't so i was curious.
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[20:18:08] <ap73> Hello all! I am having some problems with Ganymede SR2 on Ubuntu 9.10
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[20:19:06] <ap73> To start with it wouldn't create new workspaces but I got around that by adding -Dorg.eclipse.swt.browser.XULRunnerPath=/dev/null to eclipse.ini
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[20:19:29] <ap73> Now though, none of the buttons work on the import and new project dialogs
[20:19:38] <ap73> anyone know if this it fixable?
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[20:25:19] <rcjsuen> ap73: Use the keyboard?
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[20:28:00] <stermi> someone used the latest version of visualswing4eclipse ?
[20:28:30] <stermi> couse i just installed putting all in plugins folder, but when I create a frame class example it create it with errore in the code
[20:28:36] <stermi> and I can't run it
[20:31:22] <stermi> this is the error that it give to me: http://i50.tinypic.com/2dkjo8n.png and I can't add buttons, label, etch...
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[20:43:59] <ap73> rcjsuen: using the keyboard shortcuts works whereas clicking the buttons didn't - very strange!
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[20:44:14] <rcjsuen> ap73: Your problem is described in the FAQ in the channel's topic.
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[20:53:13] <chuckr> just installed a brand new eclipse, direct from the eclipse website, onto a gentoo linux host.  every time I invoke it, it completes exection immediately without printing anything, and leaving no process behind (I checked with ps)
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[20:56:28] <nitind> chuckr: Anything in the log? ~log
[20:56:28] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[20:56:32] <chuckr> Oh, yeah, it's the latest 3.5 image for Linux, Galileo.  I recall when I last installed eclipse onto my FreeBSD host, maybe 18 months ago, I had a problem like this, but I can't recall the fix
[20:57:19] <chuckr> moment, let me check the logs.  I have this strong feeling it's something terribly obvious, logs may help a LOT.
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[21:00:42] <chuckr> Can't find any log files.  The only occupant of .metadata is a version.ini, which only has "org.eclipse.core.runtime=1 in it.
[21:01:12] <chuckr> Can't actually run the eclipse, so the hints to use help isn't of any use
[21:01:22] <nitind> chuckr: How are you invoking it, and which JRE are you using?
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[21:06:38] <chuckr> I copied a 2 linux bash script (it needed a small amount of editing, like "#/bin/bash" was missing the "!".  The java is the gentoo portage package for sun-jdk, which I just finished updating from 1.6.0.10 to 1.6.0.17
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[21:07:38] <chuckr> I saw this problem 18 months ago, I remember it had a really simple answer, but I can't (darnit) recall what the solution was.
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[21:08:26] <chuckr> I could give you the one active line I have in the startup script, want it?
[21:08:44] <chuckr> it's nothing like what I'm expecting, though
[21:09:55] <nitind> chuckr: Yes, but did you actually specify that JVM for use when running Eclipse?
[21:11:17] <chuckr> Well, it's almost exactly the same one working on my FreeBSD box for ganymede
[21:11:35] <chuckr> let me see if there are any env vars missing
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[21:12:55] <al80> How do you handle a mavenized project tree in Eclipse?
[21:14:06] <al80> Maven works well with projects and sub projects, but Eclipse doesn't work well instead. What is your experience or is there any plugin able to show a tree of mavenized projects?
[21:16:30] <chuckr> I can't find that I need anything like JAVA_HOME or anything like that, do I?
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[21:17:46] <groton> anyone know how to get rid of "hot code replacemend failed" when changing code while debugging?
[21:18:27] <tylermac> turn off build automatically.
[21:19:12] <stermi> Someone use visualswing4eclipse? this is the error that it give to me: http://i50.tinypic.com/2dkjo8n.png and I can't add buttons, label, etch...
[21:19:20] <groton> tylermac, ok, then every time i will recompile the tomcat server is restarted and my servlet redeployed automatically i suppose
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[21:21:59] <tylermac> groton: it doesn't reload the server, just the context. Although it's still possible to get the Hot code replacement failed message, there is an opition on my to hide future notices.
[21:22:53] <groton> tylermac, ok, but hiding the error does not fix it :) I would like to have the context redeployed each time the code is changed
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[21:23:38] <tylermac> Yes, it still does it. As far as I can tell, what it's saying is that it can't redeploy the code with out restarting the context.
[21:27:06] <rcjsuen> chuckr: you did an ls -al right
[21:27:37] <rcjsuen> actually, i should say, if it exits immediately i'm not even sure why a workspace would be generated
[21:27:43] <chuckr> definitely.  Is there some way to override setting and FORCE the logfile to be somewhere known?
[21:30:23] <rcjsuen> you can try -consoleLog but i doubt that would help
[21:30:42] <chuckr> I still remember this kinda thing happening on my first eclipse install.  On startup, does eclipse have some place it reads defaults from, some place I could re-initialize (maybe remove)?
[21:31:20] <rcjsuen> just untar again
[21:31:26] <rcjsuen> well, that assumes you didn't delete the tarball
[21:31:31] <rcjsuen> untar in a new folder that is
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[21:34:11] <chuckr> I currently have it in /h9ome/chuckr/eclipse3.5, and I haven't touched a file in there.  Is that where the startup stuff would be?
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[21:35:05] <rcjsuen> what arch are you on
[21:36:20] <chuckr> amd64
[21:37:02] <chuckr> maybe that's it.  Let me look and see if there's a x86_64 version on their site
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[21:42:50] <chuckr> I just verified, IF I can verify that my java is 64 bit, then I downloaded/installed the wrong one.  Hmm java -version seems to be saying it's 64 bit, so this may well be the problem.
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[22:04:44] <chuckr> rcjsuen: yeah, it was the wrong arch.  Thanks.
[22:06:18] <stermi> sorry for this noob question: i've a swing frame and I want to add a frame into the frame ( in qjambi I can do this. ) how can I do in swing?
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[22:10:48] <rcjsuen> chuckr: okilydokily
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[22:26:45] <chuckr> OK, bot further this time (got the small startup banner window), but I decided it would be a better thing to ruin your feelings of accomplishment  (sorry!) About 30 seconds after the banner pops up, I see an error popup telling me that SQLlite is good, but it's a version that's too old.  First, I tried bringing the latest version of Gentoo's SQLlite portage package, but as this got me the...
[22:26:46] <chuckr> ...same error, I then tried SQLlite2 (it seems to have a differently named set of install files.  There IS a new SQLlite3, but do you have any idea what the version of SQLlite it wants is?
[22:27:10] <chuckr> Or, maybe I should change something wth Python?  Isn't SQLlite a python thing?
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[23:21:04] <rcjsuen> chuckr: Banner, you mean the splash screen?
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[23:36:13] <jimi_hendrix> hi, i just installed the jdk on debian and eclipse (both from the repo), but it says there is no jdk or jre when i run eclipse
[23:37:09] <NfNitLoop> jimi_hendrix: do you have JAVA_HOME specified, or java in your PATH?
[23:37:26] <NfNitLoop> you may want to restart your shell so those get updated.
[23:37:39] <NfNitLoop> if you haven't since your update.
[23:37:41] <jimi_hendrix> no java home
[23:38:06] <NfNitLoop> Or even easier, try starting eclipse frmo your desktop environment's menu.
[23:38:07] <jimi_hendrix> and where is java installed to
[23:38:17] <NfNitLoop> dpkg -S java  :)
[23:38:34] <jimi_hendrix> thats a lot
[23:38:38] <jimi_hendrix> so what must be in my path
[23:38:53] <NfNitLoop> dpkg -S java | grep bin/java  :)
[23:38:59] <NfNitLoop> have you restarted your shell?
[23:39:06] <NfNitLoop> My guess is thiat debian will put it in your path for you.
[23:39:18] <jimi_hendrix> ok
[23:39:28] <jimi_hendrix> i will logout and back in, i did restart my terminal
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[23:39:40] <NfNitLoop> Oh, restarting your terminal should've been enough.  Hrmm.
[23:39:47] <NfNitLoop> Someone doesn't know about 'screen'. :p
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[23:44:53] <pucko> it's not possible to update eclipse as a non-root user?
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[23:45:36] <jimi_hendrix> NfNitLoop, didnt work
[23:50:59] <rcjsuen> jimi_hendrix: 'java' from the command line does nothing?
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[23:52:50] <NfNitLoop> pucko: if you've installed eclipse as root (likely: via your package manager?) then yes, you have to be root to update it.
[23:54:13] <jimi_hendrix> rcjsuen, java works
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