[00:00:01] <toulmean> org.eclipse.equinox.applications.IApplication
[00:00:11] <rcjsuen> That shouldn't matter.
[00:00:50] <toulmean> rcjsuen: maybe it does because the argument in the function is: IApplicationContext, and is also impacted by the package name change ?
[00:00:57] <SRabbelier> How do I tell eclipse that I want my variable names to be lower cased? Atm it generates a 'isFoo_bar' getter for the 'foo_bar' field, rather than 'is_foo_bar'
[00:01:13] <toulmean> rcjsuen: anyway, the package name is wrong in the extension point doc, right ?
[00:01:42] <rcjsuen> toulmean: It's not really clear to me what the error is. I guess an Object was sent to something that was supposed to be an IAC
[00:02:04] <toulmean> rcjsuen: uh ?
[00:02:13] <toulmean> lemme check other applications
[00:02:15] <rcjsuen> well it says "incompatible argument to function"
[00:02:19] <rcjsuen> so that's what it sounds like to me
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[00:03:08] <toulmean> the signature I pasted says: it has one argument which is a IApplicationContext, and it returns an object
[00:03:18] <toulmean> exactly what my application class does.
[00:03:20] <rcjsuen> o ok that makes sense
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[00:04:11] <rcjsuen> was thisu working before or you just started a new bundle or whatever
[00:04:27] <toulmean> rcjsuen: it works in 3.4 for sure.
[00:04:43] <toulmean> rcjsuen: trying with 3.5RC4 or 3.5.1: there it fails miserably.
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[00:05:41] <toulmean> rcjsuen: the extension point is org.eclipse.core.runtime.applications
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[00:11:25] <multiHYP> d_a_carver: thank you and sorry
[00:11:32] <multiHYP> nitind: you too ;)
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[00:13:09] <multiHYP> I did read through that thing, and then started coding while nearly finished reading it. I made it like crazy fast, without any hitch!
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[00:16:27] <d_a_carver> multiHYP: no problem...just takes a bit of effort at times, but learned something new.
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[00:17:03] <multiHYP> definitely worth it, and i got oxygen again, still works with my old university license :P
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[00:21:48] <toulmean> rcjsuen: the code in CVS looks ok.
[00:21:58] <rcjsuen> toulmean: what code are you referring to
[00:22:13] <toulmean> rcjsuen: the code for IApplication and the schema
[00:22:29] <toulmean> rcjsuen: the only issue is the class ref in the doc of the schema which mentions an invalid package name.
[00:22:55] <toulmean> rcjsuen: anyways. I still don't know what to do. I spent already too much time on this.
[00:23:13] <toulmean> rcjsuen: is there any other way to run an app ?
[00:23:26] <toulmean> I will try coding a sample one quickly.
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[00:23:50] <rcjsuen> Did you try using the org.eclipse.equinox.applications extension point
[00:24:00] <toulmean> rcjsuen: Oho.
[00:24:43] <toulmean> rcjsuen: I don't have that ?
[00:24:53] <rcjsuen> o, well then
[00:25:14] <toulmean> the only extension point with applications in it is: org.eclipse.core.runtime.applications
[00:25:17] <rcjsuen> that's what the javadocs mention
[00:25:21] <rcjsuen> unless...the javadoc is outdated
[00:25:29] <toulmean> rcjsuen: oh really ?
[00:25:31] <rcjsuen> tho that would be weird i would expect core.runtime stuff to be replaced by equionox
[00:25:43] <rcjsuen> toulmean: i'm reading the top over here http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/equinox/app/IApplication.html
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[00:26:36] <toulmean> rcjsuen: ok. Yeah it's not in the known extension points, and I use classic SDK
[00:26:47] <rcjsuen> ok i ahve my eclipse up
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[00:27:31] <toulmean> rcjsuen: you have that ?
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[00:27:41] <rcjsuen> I can't see it at the moment no
[00:27:58] <toulmean> rcjsuen: ok.
[00:28:27] <rcjsuen> are you about to give up or...? ;p
[00:28:41] <rcjsuen> cvs is slooooooooooow
[00:28:48] <toulmean> rcjsuen: never.
[00:28:55] <toulmean> rcjsuen: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.equinox/compendium/bundles/org.eclipse.equinox.app/?hideattic=0&root=RT_Project
[00:28:58] <rcjsuen> okay soundede like you were earlier ;)
[00:29:10] <toulmean> rcjsuen: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.equinox/compendium/bundles/org.eclipse.equinox.app/schema/applications.exsd?hideattic=0&root=RT_Project&view=markup
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[00:29:36] <toulmean> rcjsuen: I need this working, so either they fire me or I quit, or I find a way to make it work.
[00:29:39] <rcjsuen> what does your IAppl impl look like
[00:29:55] <toulmean> rcjsuen: well, just implementing IApplication
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[00:30:15] <rcjsuen> so you launch
[00:30:18] <rcjsuen> and your app dies immediately right
[00:30:26] <rcjsuen> and your launch config points at your custom application, correct
[00:30:26] <toulmean> rcjsuen: I have set -noExit
[00:30:33] <toulmean> rcjsuen: yep.
[00:30:45] <toulmean> rcjsuen: let me do a dummy to try to reproduce.
[00:31:23] <rcjsuen> this is what our ecf code looks like
[00:31:28] <rcjsuen> plugin.xml http://pastebin.ca/1678549
[00:31:31] <rcjsuen> http://pastebin.ca/1678551
[00:31:51] <toulmean> rcjsuen: same
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[00:31:58] <toulmean> rcjsuen: and your stuff works ?
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[00:32:10] <rcjsuen> toulmean: well that's what we use to run kos-mos
[00:32:15] <rcjsuen> tho i'm not sure if i upgraded her to 3.5
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[00:32:46] <toulmean> rcjsuen: since kos-mos is named Arbalest, I don't recognize her anymore.
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[00:33:04] <toulmean> rcjsuen: if we ever meet f2f, we'll need to talk about why it had to be a female bot too
[00:33:26] <toulmean> rcjsuen: let me add cardinality attributes.
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[00:34:45] <rcjsuen> seems to start for me
[00:34:55] <toulmean> rcjsuen: same VerifyError here.
[00:34:55] <rcjsuen>  admittedly i'm not on 3.5.0 final here
[00:35:00] <rcjsuen> Version: 3.5.0
[00:35:00] <rcjsuen> Build id: I20090428-0100
[00:35:02] <rcjsuen> slightly old but anyway
[00:35:09] <toulmean> rcjsuen: I use RC4
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[00:36:38] <rcjsuen> the code is in org.eclipse.ecf/framework/bundles/
[00:36:55] <rcjsuen> org.eclipse.ecf / org.eclipse.ecf.identity / org.eclipse.ecf.presence / org.eclipse.ecf.presence.bot
[00:36:59] <rcjsuen> you can check out all four if you want
[00:37:05] <toulmean> rcjsuen: well.
[00:37:24] <toulmean> rcjsuen: ... just tried with a dummy one and it worked.
[00:37:27] <rcjsuen> oic
[00:37:28] <toulmean> rcjsuen: digging more.
[00:37:44] <rcjsuen> maybe you need to clean/restart eclipse, dunno why the compiler would fail
[00:38:13] <toulmean> rcjsuen: I tried with 2 different versions of eclipse using two different workspaces with two different checkouts of the code.
[00:38:35] <toulmean> rcjsuen: and cleaned and removed build.properties, checked .classpath and the order of the builders in .project.
[00:38:42] <toulmean> rcjsuen: the usual routine
[00:40:06] <toulmean> rcjsuen: still. I reproduce in my two branches. Funny. I don't reproduce when starting a new plugin from scratch.
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[00:47:30] <jjann> Hi. Is there a way to run source->format on all .java files in a project?
[00:47:43] <rcjsuen> select the project and use the context menu to format
[00:47:49] <jjann> thanks
[00:47:54] <toulmean> jjann: Ctrl+Shift+F I think.
[00:49:15] <jjann> much better. I just inherited an old codebase from a coworker that was fired because he produced broken code most of the time. yay. :)
[00:49:33] <toulmean> jjann: :)
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[00:55:10] <toulmean> rcjsuen: I am running copy/pastes here. I started with a blank IApplication impl that works and slowly working towards adding the stuff from the fault class in there. I hope to find the issue quickly.
[00:55:23] <rcjsuen> good luck
[00:56:40] <toulmean> rcjsuen: starting with that one: commenting the contents of the start method works.
[00:56:43] <toulmean> now what...
[00:57:03] <d_a_carver> jjann: sounds like he didn't unit test. :)
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[00:58:37] <_Tavo_> Hello, I'm having trouble with eclipse 3.5.1 in linux and the gdb debugger... If fails to start even with the most simple program. It says "launching name_of_project (57%)" and then dies saying "Can't find a source file at "dl-debug.c" " Any ideas?
[00:59:15] <rcjsuen> toulmean: you mean you can consistently repro the problem by un/commenting those lines?
[00:59:35] <toulmean> rcjsuen: yeah, and now working on which line exactly is the one I need to comment out.
[00:59:40] <toulmean> rcjsuen: so narrowing it.
[01:00:23] <toulmean> rcjsuen: creepy, uh
[01:00:28] <jjann> d_a_carver: not at all. in fact, that's the second thing I'm doing now after I made his source vaguely readable, writing tests )
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[01:00:51] <toulmean> jjann: d_a_carver and you will get along for sure
[01:01:01] <rcjsuen> haha
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[01:02:03] <jjann> they call me the testing Nazi.
[01:02:15] <toulmean> jjann: that's not nice.
[01:02:18] <jjann> but I'm German, so that doesn't mean much. I just have to be some kind of Nazi.
[01:02:57] <toulmean> jjann: :) I'm French so not sure what my role as part of the dev team should be :)
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[01:04:05] <jjann> toulmean: something to do with frog's legs probably ;)
[01:05:29] <jjann> sometimes I think that making fun of racism by making the stupidest racist jokes has gotten a bit out of hand in my team 8)
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[01:05:51] <toulmean> jjann: well we have plenty of asian people so frogs are not particularly French here.
[01:06:09] <toulmean> jjann: but yeah beware this might not be well accepted on IRC :)
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[01:07:06] <jjann> well then I won't talk about how we call the arabic dude in our team ;)
[01:07:24] <toulmean> jjann: yeah, no, really, no need...
[01:07:28] <jjann> anyway, IRC be killin' my time, gotta work :)
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[01:10:57] <toulmean> rcjsuen: junit version conflicts in the classpath.
[01:11:09] <toulmean> rcjsuen: so the fix is to fix my use of junit.
[01:11:15] <rcjsuen> odd error
[01:11:50] <toulmean> rcjsuen: yeah. I need to move the code that deals with junit to another method, inside a runnable or something, so that it stops freaking out.
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[01:14:23] <Counterspell> Hello, I just tried putting my Eclipse project under subversion control and I totally fucked it up.
[01:14:35] <Counterspell> First was that i missed the .classpath and .project files
[01:14:37] <Counterspell> i recreated those
[01:14:49] <Counterspell> but i still get all sorts of errors about files being "out of sync with the filesystem"
[01:14:53] <Counterspell> what the hell does that mean?
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[01:15:24] <rcjsuen> did you try refreshing?
[01:16:26] <Counterspell> that might have been it
[01:18:29] <_Tavo_> does anyone here have eclipse 3.5.1, CDT and gdb working correctly in linux?
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[01:44:24] * multiHYP good night y'all...
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[02:10:03] <Counterspell> does putting an eclipse project under subversion break eclipse?
[02:10:11] <Counterspell> i'm getting all sorts of problems with the bin directory
[02:10:11] <_j4zz_> no
[02:10:18] <Counterspell> i set svn:ignore to * on bin
[02:10:21] <Counterspell> (bin was empty)
[02:10:34] <Counterspell> but when eclipse builds, svn st reveals that all sorts of changes have been made to bin
[02:10:51] <Counterspell> however if i were to add a file myself (touch bin/blah) and run svn st i won't see my file
[02:10:52] <_j4zz_> try to set svn:ignore on bin
[02:10:58] <Counterspell> i just said i did
[02:11:01] <_j4zz_> rather than on * in bin
[02:11:16] <Counterspell> i'm confused
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[02:11:21] <Counterspell> svn propedit svn:ignore bin
[02:11:26] <Counterspell> then i enter * in the editor and write
[02:11:28] <Counterspell> then commit
[02:11:35] <_j4zz_> basically, you have to set the svn:ignore on the top level directory of the project
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[02:11:48] <Counterspell> oh
[02:11:54] <Counterspell> i see
[02:12:14] <_j4zz_> svn pe svn:ignore /workspace/myproj
[02:12:20] <_j4zz_> than add 'bin'
[02:12:35] <Counterspell> you mean bin/*?
[02:12:39] <Counterspell> ohh
[02:12:41] <Counterspell> no i get it
[02:12:44] <_j4zz_> no, just bin
[02:12:46] <Counterspell> yes just the file named "bin"
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[02:14:38] <Counterspell> ok next problem, for some reason after converting my project to be under subversion control now under the 'src' folder in the eclipse ide i see the package space in between ever '.' whereas before i only saw the package space that actually had classes in it
[02:15:35] <Counterspell> crap, setting svn:ignore on . to bin also didn't work
[02:15:36] <Counterspell> wtf
[02:16:13] <_j4zz_> svn pe svn:ignore /workspace/myproj
[02:16:22] <_j4zz_> bin is within myproj
[02:16:39] <Counterspell> yes
[02:16:45] <Counterspell> svn pe svn:ignore .
[02:16:48] <Counterspell> bin is within .
[02:17:27] <_j4zz_> just do as I showed
[02:17:40] <_j4zz_> don't svn:ignore inside bin itself
[02:17:59] <_j4zz_> but rather svn:ignore bin in the parent of bin
[02:18:06] <_j4zz_> got it?
[02:18:54] <Counterspell> i diiiid
[02:18:56] <Counterspell> dude
[02:19:06] <_j4zz_> no '*' are needed
[02:19:06] <Counterspell> that's exactly what i did
[02:19:11] <Counterspell> yes no *
[02:19:13] <Counterspell> just the word bin
[02:19:19] <_j4zz_> yep
[02:19:20] <Counterspell> . is the root of the working copy
[02:19:26] <Counterspell> svn pe svn:ignore .
[02:19:29] <Counterspell> then i enter 'bin'
[02:19:37] <Counterspell> and commit
[02:19:41] <_j4zz_> yep
[02:19:53] <Counterspell> yes but the problem still happens and i get a weird "S" too
[02:20:01] <Counterspell> next to the bin directory when running svn st
[02:20:17] <_j4zz_> no idea then
[02:20:47] <Counterspell> i'm running the android sdk
[02:20:50] <Counterspell> and i think it's fucking things up
[02:21:07] <Counterspell> it's already trying to use some files under .svn as if they were part of the project
[02:21:27] <_j4zz_> did you install the svn plugin onto eclipse?
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[02:22:15] <kgoj> Counterspell: from svn help st: "'S' the item has a Switched URL relative to the parent"
[02:22:26] <kgoj> did you move bin folder from somewhere else?
[02:23:21] <kgoj> try removing bin/.svn
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[02:24:06] <Counterspell> i didn't move bin anywhere but eclipse might have deleted it and recreated it
[02:24:09] <Counterspell> not sure
[02:24:13] <Counterspell> i am not using any svn plugin
[02:25:02] <rcjsuen> Not clear to me what this 'S' thing is. Do you have a screenshot?
[02:25:41] <rcjsuen> It sounds like you have a Subversion plug-in installed, else I'm not sure why you'd be seeing an S.
[02:25:48] <rcjsuen> Unless you're doing stuff on the command line.
[02:26:12] <Counterspell> it happens after i refresh
[02:26:26] <rcjsuen> Screenshot?
[02:26:27] <Counterspell> i think eclipse is completely removing bin
[02:26:38] <Counterspell> still working on it one sec
[02:27:29] <Counterspell> yes that is what was happening
[02:28:07] <Counterspell> solution is to remove the bin directory itself completely from source control instead of only ignoring it
[02:29:28] <Counterspell> any idea why i am seeing packages for which no classes exist?
[02:29:34] <Counterspell> so i am com.counterspell.project
[02:29:43] <Counterspell> and i see under src: com and com.counterspell
[02:29:50] <Counterspell> but for other projects i don't see that
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[02:36:14] <_j4zz_> i've seen that happen
[02:37:57] <_j4zz_> i'm not sure what made them go away
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[04:07:02] <tomvolek_> HI All, Just downloaded eclipse 3.5.1 Galielo SR1,  Java IDE bundle.  Can I add PHP plugin to it?  I go under Help, install new software , take the EPP package repository , Type EPP in filter box, and I do see the EPP PHP features, I select it, and press next, Eclipse just sits there
[04:08:47] <rcjsuen> tomvolek_: Screenshot?
[04:09:04] <tomvolek_> let me provide that in a sec.
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[04:15:07] <tomvolek_> Where can I past this screen shot?
[04:15:18] <rcjsuen> use an ~imagebin
[04:15:19] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[04:18:25] <tomvolek_> Here it is rcjsuen.  http://imagebin.org/72258
[04:18:57] <rcjsuen> tomvolek_: Can you cancel out?
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[04:19:54] <tomvolek_> By the way I just noticed if I move my cursor outside the available software Install window to Eclispe itself,  I see busy cursor
[04:20:01] <tomvolek_> Yes, I can cancel out, do u want me to ?
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[04:20:25] <tomvolek_> I am running this on a 64bit, Ubuntu 9.1
[04:20:31] <rcjsuen> tomvolek_: anything you select clicking 'Next' doesn't do anything?
[04:21:00] <tomvolek_> Exactly, from that list, anything i select doesnt do anything if i press Next
[04:21:10] <rcjsuen> what if you use Alt+N
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[04:22:11] <tomvolek_> aha.. Alt+N did make it go through
[04:22:52] <tomvolek_> but now it says operation cant be comleted .. one or more required items can not be found
[04:23:13] <tomvolek_> Software being installed: EPP PHP Feature 1.2.1.20090918-0703 (org.eclipse.epp.package.php.feature.feature.group 1.2.1.20090918-0703)
[04:23:22] <tomvolek_> Missing requirement: EPP PHP Feature 1.2.1.20090918-0703 (org.eclipse.epp.package.php.feature.feature.group 1.2.1.20090918-0703) requires 'org.eclipse.dltk.rse.feature.group 0.0.0' but it could not be found
[04:25:26] <tomvolek_> any ideas ?
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[04:56:38] <RenatoSilva> does anyone know a free plugin for editing gettext .po files?
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[06:24:02] <mgeary_> hi folks
[06:26:01] <mgeary_> hey, i'm seeing about using eclipse more. i've been using TextMate on a Mac. One thing i like about TM is that when you're coding python, for example, and you type "def<tab>" it will automatically rough in a function definition, and you can tab through the various components of the text. Can Eclipse be set up to do this?
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[09:35:07] <tasslehoff> hey. I'm trying to add preprocessor defines to my cdt project, but no matter where I add them the #ifdef block remain greyed out.
[09:36:08] <tasslehoff> I started with an empty makefile project, and use Scons as a builder, if that matters
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[11:05:11] <tasslehoff> I have added a define to C/C++ General -> Paths and Symbols -> Symbols, but Eclipse still has it greyed out. Any advice on what I can do/debug?
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[11:41:48] <[diablo]> good morning #eclipse ... guys I tried yesterday to get Eclipse RSE plugin working with Eclipse-J2EE base, plus CDT, PyDEV, and some modeling plugins... when I drop the RSE into "dropins", it disables CDT and PyDEV... any ideas please?
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[11:42:41] <nopmop> hey guys
[11:42:56] <nopmop> does anyone here use ErlIDE ?
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[12:00:23] <tasslehoff> Hey. Got disconnected. It seems that Eclipse only uses the defines I put in the Default build configuration to mark code as inactive
[12:00:30] <tasslehoff> Is this correct behaviour?
[12:01:31] <tasslehoff> I thought that when I changed to another build configuration, it would use the symbols I have define there.
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[12:04:43] <tasslehoff> ok. another case of stupid user. sorry
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[12:08:52] <aikie> Hi all, I have a vanilla eclipse 3.5, when trying to add the Spring IDE Core it returns lots of errors: 'No repository found containing: com.springsource....'
[12:09:41] <aikie> is it possible to this? or do I need to download the full Spring STS package?
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[12:14:39] <nicorio> Hi. I can't manage to have Birt Report Designer working in my Eclipse (3.5) install (on ubuntu 9.10). Isn't there a package similar to the all-in-one package existing for Windows ?
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[12:28:01] <opossum_oisif> I try to follow this tutorial for installing PDT http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Installation after adding links to DLTK 2.0 and PDT 2.2 I choose to install PDT runtime feature but I have this dependancy error http://pastie.org/707444
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[12:42:04] <philk__> how do I use CheckBoxCellEditor in my table viewer? It does seem to react to click, but is not updating the model.
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[13:00:19] <philk__> whats the recommended way to read preferences during runtime? Using the IPreferenceService or by instantiating an InstanceScope?
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[13:04:24] <prahal> hi I think I found the root or the eclipse crash in pango while closing first level windows :  . https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=291128 Could someone confirm the patch make sense (it is inlined in comment 27
[13:07:29] <prahal> also eclipse does not close fully . I get:
[13:07:33] <prahal> Job found still running after platform shutdown.  Jobs should be canceled by the plugin that scheduled them during shutdown: org.eclipse.epp.usagedata.internal.gathering.services.UsageDataService$1
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[13:44:52] <rcjsuen> [diablo]: Sounds vaguely like https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=294535
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[13:45:56] <rcjsuen> philk__: There's an interface/abstract class to implement that actually sets the value to the model.
[13:46:26] <rcjsuen> somethin' like public void set(Object o, Object value) { Boolean b = (Boolean) value; ((MyModel) o).setWhatever(b.booleanValue()); }
[13:46:28] <rcjsuen> If that makes sense.
[13:46:45] <rcjsuen> I think it's called a cell modifier or something
[13:49:11] <rcjsuen> ICellModifier
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[13:54:06] <philk__> rcjsuen: thank, I am using databinding. And its not calling my beans model setter. The CellEditor changes its internal value though
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[14:04:23] <rcjsuen> ok i wasn't sure if you were still using databinding or not
[14:04:28] <rcjsuen> well can't help you there ;p
[14:05:51] <[diablo]> thank you rcjsuen , will read it now
[14:07:38] <prahal> wondering if there was a mean to pass the exception thrown name in jni callback.c to a kind of JNU_ThrowByName in a generic way (there seems a lot of different exception could be thrown in callback.c . Currently  org.eclipse.swt.SWTException: Widget is disposed. Maybe org.eclipse.swt.SWTException handling is enough as callback.c is in swt
[14:08:29] <prahal> that is in jniw code I can get a reference to the exception comming from java but I wonder if I could get its name via a utility function with this reference
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[14:15:21] <opossum_oisif> how do I add my Zend library (/usr/share/php/libzend-framework-php/Zend) in my project? I tried to add it via the project properties > include path > library but It seems that I don't have the autocompletion
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[14:17:26] <opossum_oisif> oh sorry it works now
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[14:38:01] <multiHYP> hu all
[14:38:06] <multiHYP> hi :D
[14:38:50] <multiHYP> what can I do when my JMenuBar loses focus, because the focus goes to the Canvas that is implementing Runnable?
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[15:00:30] <coachz> hi
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[15:01:19] <coachz> does eclipse remember folded code when you close a file and reopen it ?
[15:01:27] <coachz> to keep it collapsed
[15:02:04] <rcjsuen> coachz: I don't believe so. Mylyn would do that I suppose.
[15:02:43] <coachz> Mylyn appears to be a task list add on
[15:02:58] <coachz> i'm writing php code and want to fold it up
[15:03:15] <rcjsuen> Well it remembers the context of your Eclipse workbench (such as folded code).
[15:03:18] <rcjsuen> I don't know if it works for PHP though.
[15:03:47] <coachz> i'm hooked on having my files open with folded code
[15:03:57] <coachz> and really don't want to lose that
[15:06:07] <Kudd> I mostly use mylyn for that coachz
[15:06:16] <Kudd> I create local tasks
[15:06:29] <Kudd> and when I switch between them, eclipse closes and opens the correct files
[15:07:44] <coachz> i don't think that's what i want,  i'm looking for a way to fold the code on the page without adding anything.  Mayybe this will do it.  http://themindstorms.blogspot.com/2006/11/my-eclipse-code-folding-plugin.html
[15:08:02] <coachz> or maybe that one is java only,  grr
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[15:27:26] <philk_> paulweb515: I am currently using the menuContribution extension to extend my wizards with pages / and page content. First I had my own extensions: wizardPage and wizardContent but IMenuManager provides a nice way of arranging content using the "before" and "after" location parameters. I am thinking of mis-using IMenuManager to create the Wizard page contributions and content for me now. Good idea or bad design?
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[16:02:00] <HARIBABU> hi, how can i add euc-jp support to my ide?..  for eclipse text encoding, is the IDE by default picks from system(OS) or eclipse preferences?
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[16:12:28] <patrik> Hi I'm having some trouble with Eclipse and Ubuntu 9.10. I've downloaded the latest Eclipse Galileo for Java EE. When trying to create a project through the wizard the Next button doesn't work. Any ideas? I've also tried with ganyemede  but gets the same problem.
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[16:18:18] <samg_> I am trying to install Subclipse for Flex Builder 3 Professional, which is Eclipse 3.3.3. I'm getting an error trying to connect to the server.
[16:18:42] <samg_> The error is: Unable to access site: "http://download.eclipse.org/tool/mylyn/update/e3.3"
[16:18:45] <rcjsuen> patrik: See FAQ in channel topic with regards to your button problem.
[16:18:49] <samg_> I confirmed that that URL does bring up a 404.
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[16:20:07] <patrik> rcjsuen, Sure, thanks!
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[16:24:00] <patrik> rcjsuen, Wow, so easy :) thanks again!
[16:24:06] <rcjsuen> okilydokily
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[17:36:19] <jihedamine> Hi. Using eclipse galileo on 64 bit linux, after I select packages to install from the p2 installer, clicking on next button doesn't do anything.
[17:36:47] <jihedamine> I get stuck on software selection, the IDE is still responsive but it can't get me to the next screen
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[17:37:35] <jihedamine> If I click on cancel I leave the p2 installer dialog box, so I just can't update or install new software via p2
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[17:45:48] <rcjsuen> jihedamine: what if you use Alt+N to select the next button
[17:45:48] <Norm> is there a good way for Open Type (cntrl+shift+t) to restrict to files in the current project?
[17:46:05] <rcjsuen> Norm: i'd rather juse use open resource then
[17:46:47] <Norm> rcjsuen: yeah, but i like that Open Type can find classes inside JAR files in my project :)
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[17:47:17] <rcjsuen> It's not clear to me either how "current" is defined.
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[17:47:41] <Norm> for search operations, it's "enclosing project"... basically, whatever project contains the resource you're currently viewing
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[17:48:39] <rcjsuen> "viewing"?
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[17:49:06] <rcjsuen> Personally I've never quite understood what "enclosing proejcts" meant.
[17:49:32] <Norm> so if the active panel/pane/whatever is looking at a file, it will use the project that encloses that file
[17:49:43] <Norm> if you're not viewing a particular file, it will complain
[17:50:01] <Norm> i've found that it works well if the editor has focus on a particular file, or if project/package explorer has focus and is drilled onto a particular file
[17:50:11] <rcjsuen> o now it makes sense
[17:50:14] <Norm> if the Console tab has focus, it gets angry
[17:50:16] <rcjsuen> i've always just selected the resources by hand
[17:50:17] <Norm> etc
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[17:50:35] <Norm> yeah, i figure ran across this doing search operations, where i didn't want to search my entire workplace
[17:50:43] <Norm> was hoping there was a parallel for Open Type
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[17:52:07] <SRabbelier> where would I find how to set up eclipse to know about the java source code? (e.g., so that I can see how java.awt.Button is implemented)?
[17:52:40] <Norm> SRabbelier: open your build path and attach a source JAR
[17:53:16] <Norm> or add a reference to an existing folder of source code, there's a Source tab under "configure build path"
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[17:53:22] <SRabbelier> Norm: any way to set this workspace wide?
[17:53:36] <Norm> SRabbelier: hmmm, not sure, sorry
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[17:53:42] <Norm> i've only done it per-project
[17:54:15] <SRabbelier> Norm: I can live with per-project then :), do you happen to know where the source jar usually lives?
[17:54:20] <SRabbelier> and/or how to get it
[17:54:33] <Norm> for java.awt.Button? sorry, no idea :(
[17:54:55] <SRabbelier> Norm: for java.lang.* in general
[17:55:36] <Norm> i've never gone looking for source of java.* packages, i would imagine sun's website someplace
[17:55:39] <Norm> sorry i don't know for sure
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[17:57:19] <rcjsuen> SRabbelier: those would come up with the JDK download
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[17:58:28] <rcjsuen> it is possible there's a separaete downlaod tho i suppose
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[18:02:38] <ct529> is it possible to export the plugin /module list from one eclipse installation to another?
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[18:04:12] <rcjsuen> I think that's what's in your p2 profile. Search in your eclipse/ folder.
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[18:16:27] <ct529> rcjsuen: is it possible to export that, and reimport it into another installtion?
[18:16:51] <rcjsuen> ~copyplugins
[18:16:52] <Arbalest> You can copy plugins between eclipse installations with p2: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_i_copy_plugins_between_eclipse_installations_with_p2.3F
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[18:30:15] <philk_> I have question regarding bundles and fragments. When I have a .properties file for a java class in the bundle and the same named properties file in the fragment... Which one will be loaded by OSGi? I had hoped the one from the fragment has higher priority but it seems the bundles own properties file gets loaded all the time
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[18:33:31] <ct529> rcjsuen: thanks a lot
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[18:44:53] <paulweb515> philk_: it just tacks the fragment at the end of the bundle (unless you do special "stuff")
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[18:45:43] <paulweb515> philk_: i.e. to use a fragment to patch o.e.ui.workbench, we had to update the host plugin's Bundle-ClassPath
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[19:02:14] <opossum_oisif> hi, I use PDT and my project have Zend Framework so I have all @todo and other reference to the library what is the solution to exclude the library but keep the autocompletion help working for ZF?
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[19:10:12] <nitind> opossum_oisif: You might want to ask in #pdt or its newsgroup/forum.
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[19:11:35] <tsmith> is there a channel for EPF Composer?
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[19:15:00] <SRabbelier> rcjsuen: do you know where they're stored?
[19:15:27] <rcjsuen> In Sun's case they're stored in a zip file, src.zip.
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[19:32:49] <philk_> paulweb515: so there is no way to feed the host bundle an alternative properties file?
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[19:52:00] <paulweb515> philk_: not without collusion from the host bundle
[19:52:25] <paulweb515> host bundle: Bundle-ClassPath: patch.jar, .
[19:52:51] <paulweb515> fragment: Bundle-ClassPath: patch.jar ... and then have the fragment create a patch.jar instead of the standard "."
[19:56:16] <deSilva> I just made my university install eclipse in six classrooms :)
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[20:05:53] <paulweb515> deSilva: cool
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[20:07:24] <rcjsuen> Hopefully, there will be good tutorials since setting up projects properly for Eclipse is usually non-trivial.
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[20:15:22] <erdal> deSilva: did you evaluate eclipse university installation?
[20:15:29] <erdal> is it really simpler to use?
[20:17:46] <deSilva> I am preparing lab skeletons for students, eclipse projects
[20:18:49] <deSilva> erdal: dont know what you mean, evaluate? simpler to use than what?
[20:19:02] <rcjsuen> deSilva: You may want to consider contacting Wayne Beaton btw. http://www.eclipse.org/university-outreach/
[20:19:10] <erdal> than the full install
[20:19:23] <rcjsuen> I guess erdal is referring to IDE4EDU.
[20:19:36] <erdal> yes
[20:19:45] <deSilva> haven't heard about that one
[20:20:00] <deSilva> the version I asked them to install was eclipse java galileo sr1
[20:20:02] <erdal> oh, thought you were talking about that one :-)
[20:20:39] <deSilva> rcjsuen: interesting, that outreach link
[20:21:13] <deSilva> I consider it natural progression, for I introduce eclipse for our research group, and now for our students :)
[20:21:19] <deSilva> first I introduce even
[20:21:49] <charley1> deSilva: neat :) What University?
[20:21:57] <erdal> many students complain about eclipse being too complicated
[20:22:11] <erdal> i.e. students who have never worked with eclipse before...
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[20:23:13] <deSilva> and it was rcjsuen who helped me make it all possible, but he already knows that because I told him and thanked him :)
[20:23:49] <rcjsuen> erdal: I tried that in my university that's what one professor said.
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[20:24:40] <rcjsuen> we had (maybe still) JCreator installs http://www.jcreator.com/
[20:24:46] <rcjsuen> so i asked, why not use eclipse/nb, it's free?
[20:25:07] <rcjsuen> but one of the profs said he felt was too complicated...and that was about the end of that newsgroup discussion, nobody else chimed in ;)
[20:25:16] <rcjsuen> To be fair I made that post at the conclusion of that course.
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[20:25:36] <erdal> with a stripped down eclipse... that could change, of course
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[20:26:02] <deSilva> before I took our lab material in this direction with eclipse, they were using emacs on sun workstations..
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[20:26:22] <rcjsuen> erdal: ye, maybe, but I graduated alrdy in June, so :o
[20:27:55] <erdal> anyways, is it possible to not know/use eclipse, nowadays :P
[20:28:33] <erdal> our prof used jbuilder before it was not eclipe, then he had to switch, lol
[20:28:53] <rcjsuen> well hopefully you know how to use it a bit (if you are a Java developer that is), could always use nb or IDEA
[20:29:25] <rcjsuen> altho me personally i've only used nb for like 5 minutes (in 3.5 eons ago), and never tried IDEA
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[20:30:14] <erdal> 5 mins... you did invest more time than me
[20:30:36] <rcjsuen> actually, maybe it was less than that TBH, but anyway...
[20:31:00] <rcjsuen> my progression is Notepad -> TextPad -> JCreator -> Eclipse
[20:31:43] <erdal> notepad ... jedit ... eclipse :-)
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[20:42:03] <Kudd> eclipse is i think the best ide, but pdt needs aptana features
[20:42:16] <deSilva> I started with emacs and visual studio and added eclipse to the mix after many years
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[20:42:47] <Kudd> Notepad ++ -> Aptana -> Eclipse
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[22:39:07] <nandersson> Is there a Fedora 12-package for Web Tools Platform? What's the name of the package in that case?
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[23:15:39] <rcjsuen> nandersson: I don't believe so. YOu could ask in #eclipse-linux they might know
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[23:38:10] <industrial> Can I turn off (editor) font aliasing? I'd like to use a bitmap font (Sheldon Narrow).
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[23:54:03] <erdal> can i model an ecore class method to return an java Object instead of EObject?
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[23:55:20] <erdal> nevermind, found it
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