[00:00:23] <rcjsuen> the ref should be enough but your bundle needs to properly define its classpath and what it exports
[00:00:42] <_j4zz_> thanks, I think I got it to work
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[00:21:38] <rcjsuen> oic
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[00:23:10] <rcjsuen> _j4zz_: what was the solution?
[00:23:37] <_j4zz_> I'm still finilizing everything :-)
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[00:23:54] <_j4zz_> I'll know in a minute or two
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[02:20:30] <mobi> Hi
[02:20:34] <mobi> does eclipse run omn mac?
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[02:28:32] <rcjsuen> mobi: I have friends that runs Eclipse on Mac. Have you heard evidence that indicates otherwise?
[02:28:53] <mobi> no just curios of how well it runs
[02:29:09] <rcjsuen> well, they use it on a day-to-day basis
[02:29:12] <rcjsuen> so i think it's "usable"
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[02:29:21] <mobi> ok..
[02:29:56] <mobi> I noticed there are 2 , mAc carbon and mac cocoa
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[03:20:10] <alex_1> I need to checkout source code of galileo core,rcp,linux gtk gui. I guess, this is a minimal setup I need to run eclipse?
[03:20:10] <alex_1> thanks.  what packages do I need?
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[03:21:39] <rcjsuen> alex_1: what do you need them for exactly
[03:22:16] <alex_1> I would like to compile minimal configuration of galileo
[03:22:36] <rcjsuen> couldn't you just download one?
[03:23:26] <alex_1> is it a part of a distro?
[03:23:39] <rcjsuen> it's on eclipsr.org, i dunno if any distros provide it
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[03:24:47] <alex_1> you see, I'm not sure what packages I need for galileo, I've read that core packages have been changed etc, I got lost...
[03:26:52] <rcjsuen> dunno, I'm not sure what you read, hard to decipher without more context
[03:27:50] <alex_1> is there a tag in cvs which I'd be able to use to check out certain version? I didnt see it in cvs.
[03:28:17] <rcjsuen> there are instructions on the eclipse sdk/classic download pages you can follow those i guess
[03:28:32] <rcjsuen> tho compiling Eclipse by hand is non-trivial so I wouldn't try it unless I had hours/days to spend on it
[03:28:55] <rcjsuen> tho it might've gotten easier recently, i'm not sure
[03:29:17] <alex_1> thanks.
[03:29:28] <rhk> the platform download is the minimal needed to run eclipse
[03:29:55] <rhk> if you need to compile it for yourself, you could at least look at platform runtime to see what packages it contains
[03:31:25] <alex_1> yeah, here http://wiki.eclipse.org/RCP_FAQ there is a list, but as far as I understand it's different for galileo( for runtime. et least)
[03:32:15] <alex_1> I couldnt find a hint how to do that in 1 click :-) . if there was a version tag , it would be easy...
[03:32:25] <rhk> that's why I suggested getting the platform runtime, to see what's in it
[03:32:50] <rcjsuen> version tags wouldn't tell you anything about the list, rhk's suggestion would tho
[03:33:58] <rhk> though why on earth you'd want to compile eclipse from scratch I have no idea, unless it's just for learning purposes.
[03:34:40] <paulweb515_> alex_1: the RCP runtime is the smallest core of the eclipse workbench
[03:35:21] <paulweb515_> the Platform runtime includes the ide plugins and core.resources (which isn't in the RCP runtime)
[03:35:35] <rhk> the only problem with rcp runtime is that it's not functional by itself
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[03:35:44] <rcjsuen> yeah it's more for your TP i s'pose
[03:35:47] <rhk> I guess you could throw a hello world in with it
[03:36:41] <paulweb515_> rhk: it has the launchers but not much in the way of an application to actually launch :-)
[03:36:54] <paulweb515_> rhk: it's more useful as a target platform than anything else
[03:37:09] <alex_1> paulweb515, yeah, but does anyone know the proper way to check it out ? eclipse developers dont do it package by package, I guess?
[03:37:10] <paulweb515_> alex_1: what exactly are you looking for, anyway?
[03:37:17] <rhk> <alex_1>	I would like to compile minimal configuration of galileo
[03:37:20] <paulweb515_> alex_1: I'm afraid so
[03:37:30] <rcjsuen> a minimal config to....?
[03:37:34] <paulweb515_> rhk: unfortunately that doesn't explain why ...
[03:37:38] <rcjsuen> To like start and open a text editor?
[03:37:53] <rcjsuen> Or for developing an Eclipse-based RCP application?
[03:37:53] <alex_1> minimal config for core and rcp
[03:38:05] <paulweb515_> alex_1: that you expect to do what with?
[03:38:13] <paulweb515_> alex_1: do you want to develop an RCP app?
[03:38:24] <alex_1> yes,
[03:38:38] <alex_1> and I would like to have min installation
[03:38:38] <rcjsuen> actually doesn't the SDK come with two configs one is full one is rcp?
[03:38:42] <paulweb515_> alex_1: then you want the Eclipse SDK itself (equinox, platform, JDT and PDE)
[03:38:43] <rcjsuen> i mean two TP definitions
[03:38:58] <paulweb515_> TP?
[03:39:02] <paulweb515_> Toilet Paper?
[03:39:06] <rcjsuen> paulweb515_: just abbreviating target platform
[03:39:14] <rcjsuen> toilet paper definitions would be fascinating tho
[03:39:24] <paulweb515_> rcjsuen: oh, possibly ... although I only see active platform
[03:39:25] <rcjsuen> i guess if not in squares could be in rectangles, very original I think
[03:39:58] <paulweb515_> alex_1: The full eclipse SDK is the tool you need to develop RCP apps.  It includes the RCP runtime and the Platform Runtime
[03:40:17] <paulweb515_> alex_1: when you generate your RCP app, you can do it so you only include the plugins you use (less than the RCP runtime)
[03:40:21] <paulweb515_> anyway, gotta book
[03:40:39] <paulweb515_> rcjsuen: I picked up today's I build respin and kicked off an e4 build at 21:15
[03:40:49] <rcjsuen> ok
[03:40:52] <paulweb515_> rcjsuen: hopefully, everything is hunky dorey tomorrow :-)
[03:40:52] <rcjsuen> maybe i can f5 tomorrow lol
[03:40:57] <paulweb515_> rcjsuen: gnight
[03:41:01] <rcjsuen> ciao
[03:42:29] <rhk> f5?
[03:42:46] <rcjsuen> rhk: Java debugging was x_x in this week's build
[03:43:01] <rcjsuen> rhk: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=295473
[03:43:11] <rhk> ahh, I see. F5 as in the key.
[03:43:14] <rcjsuen> or i guess maybe "debugging in general"
[03:46:25] <rhk> I've never even run a "bleeding edge" copy of eclipse
[03:46:37] <rhk> I've never even downloaded one :)
[03:47:31] <rcjsuen> if you ever decide to submit a patch will probably need to ;p
[03:47:53] <rhk> eventually, but I'm not there yet
[03:50:01] <rcjsuen> rhk: well you're alrdy helping just by lurking here and contributing to the channel :)
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[03:50:34] <rhk> I like to help. I feel I owe something for the excellent tools I use all day long :)
[03:56:09] <Odin_> why doesn't the "Project Facets" appear available to all projects ?  I created a "Java Project" initially but I can't configure facets directly
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[03:58:45] <Odin_> also why does the available Facet lists with for a newly created "Maven Project" have everything I can imagine available, but the Facet lists for a newly created "JEE Connector Project" only offers 6
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[04:01:46] <Odin_> I can see "Faceted Project Builders" in other projects but no way to add it to the project I can not get into the "Project Facets" project pref page on, maybe there should be a page here with a button as "Enable Faceted Project"
[04:02:41] <rcjsuen> i suggest you file an enhancement request then
[04:03:42] <Odin_> yes indeed.. not sure I'd class it an ENH tho more like a bug.. I'm sure there used to be a project right click action to make project faceted (but much better in project pref page I think)
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[04:04:26] <rcjsuen> well, bug, enhancement request, whatever you wanna call it doesn't really particularly matter to the bugzilla system ;)
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[04:17:19] <h6w> Hey, if I call nano from ant, it opens up nano, but the screen is a mess.  I see parts of the file and then [exec]s.  When I hit enter I get more [exec]s.  It seems that the input is still going to ant instead of going to nano.  Has anyone tried this?
[04:18:49] <rcjsuen> did you try running Ant from the command line?
[04:19:26] <h6w> Yes, this is from the command line.  (I actually don't run eclipse at all)
[04:19:52] <rcjsuen> sounds like a question more appropriate for the ##java channel then
[04:20:07] <h6w> ok.
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[04:25:18] <SaEeDIRHA> hi, is there any way that i can add DLL files in Eclipse Java Project? because i am writing 3D application using JOGL libraries , i can add its JAR files to project but for executing and testing it , it needs certain DLL files, which i dont know how to add to Eclipse project?
[04:27:00] <rcjsuen> SaEeDIRHA: copy/paste to your proj's root folder
[04:27:42] <SaEeDIRHA> gr8
[04:27:45] <SaEeDIRHA> thankx :)
[04:28:00] <SaEeDIRHA> now is there any other way to specify it from Eclipse settings?
[04:30:28] <rcjsuen> that would be a matter of specifying [to the JVM where] the folder where the native libs reside
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[04:39:59] <SaEeDIRHA> thanks alot man
[04:41:03] <Odin_> isn't it better to create a "User Library" ?
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[04:42:12] <Odin_> I would try setting up a User Library, using the NAtive Library setting to describe the DLLs and then adding the User Library to the Build Path
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[04:43:02] <Odin_> setup UserLibraries in Global Preferences (Window -> Prefs ) then Java -> Build Path -> User Library
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[04:44:21] <Odin_> to add to project with right click on project "Build Path -> Configure Build Path" in "Libraries" tab, "Add Library -> User Library" then pick the one you made
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[05:09:51] <ablmf> How to update jre that eclipse uses?  I wrote some code based on jre1.6, but my colleague's eclipse only finds jre1.5.  We installed new version of jre on his computer, but his eclipse could not find it.
[05:10:11] <debio264> ablmf: go into the Java settings
[05:10:22] <debio264> and in the compiler settings, you can set the compiler compliance level
[05:10:27] <debio264> it's probably set ti 5.0 instead of 6.0
[05:10:46] <debio264> (the Java settings inside Eclipse)
[05:10:54] <debio264> Window->Preferences
[05:11:08] <ablmf> debio264: Thanks!
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[06:17:09] <T-Co> Has anyone had problems with installing plugins?
[06:17:15] <T-Co> I cannot get any plugin to install...
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[06:57:23] <JonDum> T-Co: Yea same here
[06:57:32] <JonDum> Did you just upgrade to Galileo?
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[07:00:34] <T-Co> JonDum, Well not exactly just now... Anyway, I was having problems with ganymede as well. I think I just got it to work!
[07:00:49] <JonDum> T-Co: Ooh ooh how?
[07:01:16] <T-Co> JonDum, I just checked all possible features under Galileo update site as well...
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[07:01:25] <T-Co> So I guess it updated itself :)
[07:01:36] <JonDum> T-Co: ehh
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[07:01:43] <T-Co> And now, at least Pydev installed.
[07:02:00] <JonDum> T-Co: what happens when you go to Help > Software updates
[07:03:48] <T-Co> JonDum, Galileo doesn't have that anymore. It's either Check for updates or Install new software
[07:04:16] <JonDum> that's what I meant lol :)
[07:04:20] <JonDum> doing it from memory hehe
[07:04:34] <JonDum> Problem being, I get an error message whenever I try either of those.
[07:04:56] <JonDum> changed/deleted workspace, redownloaded a different build, etc. etc.
[07:05:33] <T-Co> oh
[07:05:38] <T-Co> I always got it to open.
[07:06:12] <T-Co> Just after installing and restarting the supposedly installed features were not to be found anywhere.
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[07:56:15] <ramenmeal> how do you show line numbers in the editor?
[08:01:51] <veyres> try right click
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[08:04:39] <veyres> and "show line number"
[08:05:04] <veyres> ramenmeal: right click inside the left column of the editor
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[08:05:32] <ramenmeal> yeah ty
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[08:32:18] <ramenmeal> If i have a file that my java program reads from, where should i place it in eclipse so it will find it? if i compile and run from terminal, it finds the file, but if i run from eclipse it doesn't find it
[08:39:38] <ramenmeal> I'd like to be able to use the debugger :/
[08:42:02] <veyres> /file/open file ...
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[08:51:52] <ramenmeal> didnt work.
[08:55:38] <veyres> ramenmeal: try maybe to  "create a new java project" first ... and then, drag/drop your file.java inside this Java Project... Maybe ...
[08:56:51] <ramenmeal> perhaps my question wasnt clear.
[08:57:05] <ramenmeal> i have a text file that my pre existing java program reads from
[08:57:37] <ramenmeal> i put that text file into the java project in eclipse, but it doesn't find it. HOWEVER if i run the program from terminal, it does find it
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[09:00:24] <philk_> how do I databind a table columns tooltip to a bean property?
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[09:04:19] <veyres> ramenmeal: maybe an "import" is missing somewhere in your code ?
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[09:36:21] <hopphopp> i have one superclass and two subclasses
[09:36:25] <hopphopp> in the superclass there is a private static final String variable i want to move down to the subclasses
[09:36:30] <hopphopp> are there any refactoring i could use for this purpose?
[09:36:36] <hopphopp> i tried to Push Down, selecting the variable name, but only recevied an error message:
[09:36:41] <hopphopp> "to activate this refactoring, please select the name of a non-binary instance method or field"
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[09:50:58] <HolgiB> Hi can somebody help me with my Eclipse 3.3.1 and the internal browser?
[09:51:39] <HolgiB> Option is greyed out. MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME points to xulrunner with libgtkmozembed.so
[09:52:18] <HolgiB> I am in Gentoo Linux and have no clue
[09:52:32] <HolgiB> Have a working browser in my Eclipse is vital for me
[09:54:22] <HolgiB> really nobody can help?
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[09:58:23] <ramenmeal> veyres: how could the problem be in my code if it works when i'm not using eclipse to run it.
[10:07:35] <HolgiB> Ok... thanks. I udpate to 3.4 and hope the internal browser works then.
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[10:07:58] <HolgiB> Hope Eclipse is "powerful enough" to be able to embed one and its not a faked option.
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[10:09:23] <fdv> Hi. Any cdt people around?
[10:09:50] <Hanumaan> I have lot of (around 50) version source folders now how can upload to svn repository using eclipse one by one in a serial order ?
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[10:11:53] <fdv> Wrt. cdt, I was wondering about the refactoring tools. From what I can see from the dialogs, when doing a rename, an AST is built, but the renames aren't always all that good, i.e., when an enum value is named the same as a function, the function seems to have its name changed as well. Is this a limitation or is there something that can be done about it?
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[10:40:16] <ilyak_> In my project I have perhaps twenty jars with source/javadocs
[10:40:19] <ilyak_> reask: Can I attach them all so they would be show up on "go to declaration"?
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[11:25:37] <tasslehoff> I'm trying to find out how to version control my eclipse c-project. Any howtos on what/how things must be checked in?
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[12:00:44] <pred2k5> hi, is there some kind of uml plugin, that allows EMF export?
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[12:25:21] <philk__> any databinding experts here? I want to have 2 images in my table cells that reflect a state of a boolean bean property
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[13:24:08] <cs100> Hey all, anyone awake?
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[13:26:50] <rcjsuen> ramenmeal: proj root should be okay I think but it'd depend on what your code looks like at the end of the day
[13:27:45] <rcjsuen> HolgiB: the browser has always worked for me on Gentoo as faras I can remember, and I use mozilla-firefox not mozilla-firefox-bin
[13:28:04] <cs100> I have a simple method, that i have added the java doc @deprecated and the annotation @Deprecated flag above, however. I am not seeing this as a warning in the 'Problems' view - what could be wrong?
[13:28:18] <rcjsuen> philk__: Did you try asking on the forums? I think one of the databinding guys checks the forums.
[13:28:39] <rcjsuen> cs100: Can you reproduce the problem on a small project?
[13:28:57] <philk__> rcjsuen: ah yeah the forums... thats usenet or what?
[13:29:03] <rcjsuen> ~forums
[13:29:04] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[13:29:09] <rcjsuen> well or use nntp/newsgroup
[13:29:11] <rcjsuen> it's the same thing
[13:29:11] <cs100> cs100: My goal is to check if Eclipse can report if i use deprecated methods.
[13:30:39] <cs100> in Preferences, Java, Compiler, Errors/Warnings i have set everything beneath 'Depercated and restrcated API' to 'Error', but Eclipse is still not complaining about my use of a deprecated method.
[13:31:53] * cs100 scratches his head
[13:32:02] <cs100> How could i get help for this?
[13:32:23] <rcjsuen> Right, hence I am asking if you can reproduce the problem on a new/small project.
[13:32:34] <cs100> Problem?
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[13:32:52] <cs100> I have a new/small project
[13:33:11] <rcjsuen> by small i mean like one single class
[13:33:13] <anli_> In the search results for "file search", I cant delete a file simpy, or can I?
[13:33:28] <rcjsuen> there's a deprecated method, you call it, does it show up in the 'Problems' view
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[13:34:34] <cs100> rcjsuen: http://pastebin.com/m4d759a10
[13:35:04] <cs100> the method-calls lol are striked-over, but nothing is shown in the "Problems" view
[13:36:56] <cs100> Preferences, Java, Compiler, Errors/Warnings, Depercated and restrcated API <-- is that where you set the settings right?
[13:37:46] <rcjsuen> Should be.
[13:37:58] <rcjsuen> I can reproduce your problem on a new workspace but not the one I use for work.
[13:37:59] <cs100> crappy :/
[13:38:24] <cs100> rcjsuen: you know why?
[13:38:42] <rcjsuen> if I did I would've explained why ;)
[13:40:33] <rcjsuen> cs100: turn on 'signal use of deprecated apis in deprecated' checkbox
[13:40:51] <cs100> i have both on error i think
[13:41:02] <cs100> the problems view, is "show everything"
[13:41:37] <rcjsuen> screenshot?
[13:41:43] <cs100> gimme a sec
[13:43:03] <cs100> http://imagebin.ca/view/h0tTnrlP.html
[13:43:06] <rcjsuen> man it's hard to reproduce the problem
[13:45:12] <rcjsuen> i had the warnings show up but can't get them back
[13:45:55] <cs100> god knows why :)
[13:46:33] <rcjsuen> I suggest you file a bug or ask on the JDT forums.
[13:47:08] <cs100> jdt?
[13:47:31] <rcjsuen> that's what the java tooling is called
[13:47:33] <rcjsuen> Java Development Tools
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[13:51:14] <rcjsuen> Since it works on my regular ws it's probably a config problem so you should ask on the forums.
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[14:02:25] <crazybyte> Hello! I have encountered possibly a very strange (not to mention ugly) bug in Eclipse JDT. I was trying to detach the project I was working on from the project view using delete but without the removing the files option. As result all the files were removed including files that are not visible in the project view or not used in the builds. Also the local git repository was cleaned out (read delete), only the structure of the project
[14:02:31] <crazybyte>  remained, that is all the folders including the package folders. The files in the root of the project folder remained untouched. Did someone experience something similar? Should I report this as a possible bug, because I cannot reproduce it on this instance? My distribution is the standard Eclipse Galileo JDT. Thank you!
[14:03:10] <rcjsuen> If you experience (unexpected) data loss then you should probably file a bug with as much information as you can (since you can't reproduce).
[14:03:36] <rcjsuen> I know there's a bug about JGit/EGit corrupting a repository or something but that doesn't sound related.
[14:04:25] <philk__> again my eclipse installation does not find the correct plugins source code after upgrading to the newest I-Build... I would have to manually remove the old versions of the plugins... argl
[14:05:22] <crazybyte> i see
[14:05:24] <crazybyte> ok
[14:05:37] <crazybyte> i will do that. thanks!
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[14:07:33] <Darksecond> hello, i'm using the eclipse from the fedora repo, but for some reason i can't use junit, it doesn't seem to find any junit jars, but i do have junit installed
[14:07:57] <rcjsuen> Darksecond: if you used the fedora repos try asking in #eclipse-linux, they might know something
[14:08:05] <Darksecond> oki
[14:09:19] <crazybyte> Darksecond can't you include manually the junit jars?
[14:09:23] <Darksecond> yes
[14:09:24] <Darksecond> that works
[14:09:48] <rcjsuen> well you need them on your project's classpath
[14:09:51] <rcjsuen> they don't just magically appear
[14:10:02] <hopphopp> i have one superclass and two subclasses
[14:10:05] <hopphopp> in the superclass there is a private static final String variable i want to move down to the subclasses
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[14:10:12] <hopphopp> are there any refactoring i could use for this purpose?
[14:11:16] <Darksecond> i know, but eclipse asks to add the jars to the project, and that fails
[14:12:15] <rcjsuen> Darksecond: I just tried it on XP it works so it's probably a fedora problem.
[14:12:21] <Darksecond> probably
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[15:05:54] <heshan> can we install eclipse VTP plugin in to Linux?
[15:06:08] <heshan> http://eclipse.org/vtp/
[15:08:41] <rcjsuen> Best to ask on the forums although I don't see why not.
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[15:11:51] <heshan> I copied all plgins to /plugins but not loading its perspective
[15:13:29] <rcjsuen> You should try using the ~dropins folder instead I think.
[15:13:30] <Arbalest> To learn about how to use the dropins/ folder provided by p2, see here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Getting_Started#Dropins
[15:18:06] <heshan>  ~dropins
[15:18:08] <heshan> ?
[15:18:08] <Arbalest> To learn about how to use the dropins/ folder provided by p2, see here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Getting_Started#Dropins
[15:18:31] <heshan> rcjsuen: is that a plugin?
[15:18:46] <rcjsuen> Did you read the wiki link?
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[15:23:45] <heshan1> rcjsuen: I cannot see dropins folder in my linux installation
[15:24:04] <rcjsuen> What version of the Eclipse platform do you have installed anyway?
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[15:25:15] <Mr_O> hi
[15:26:22] <Mr_O> i just installed Target Management to access remote files over ftp connection but i cannot find a way to set the special port i must use....
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[15:31:05] <heshan1>  rcjsuen: 3.5.1
[15:31:11] <heshan1> I think some version issue
[15:31:28] <rcjsuen> you should have a eclipse/dropins folder then
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[15:33:08] <heshan1> rcjsuen: I created eclipse/dropins/eclipse/ like structure
[15:33:36] <Kudd> I'd like to know something
[15:33:55] <heshan1> but I still cannot see perspective for VTP is loading
[15:36:09] <Kudd> why when I move a dock
[15:36:17] <Kudd> it doesn't save its position
[15:36:37] <Kudd> for instance i'm in full screen (ctrl+m)
[15:36:47] <Kudd> so i've everything as docks
[15:37:04] <Kudd> i move them, but when I come back to eclipse the day after, it didn't save the position
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[15:51:34] <Kudd> okay :)
[15:52:17] <rcjsuen> Kudd: File a bug, or search bugzilla, sounds like one anyway.
[15:52:26] <rcjsuen> Though I don't totalyl grasp what "dock" is referring to.
[15:52:29] <rcjsuen> But it sounds ilke a bug anyway.
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[15:59:48] <Kudd> dunno, it's called "dock on" when I click on it
[15:59:51] <Kudd> I've no name for that
[16:00:03] <Kudd> you know it's icons around the editor
[16:00:12] <Kudd> when you're in full screen
[16:00:14] <Kudd> on eclipse 3.5
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[16:01:12] <Kudd> Do you have a better name, because it could help me to find if a ticket already exists or not
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[16:03:20] <Hanumaan> can qt C++ applications be run in eclipse ? if so how ?
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[16:21:28] <ecfuser79874> hey, how can i deactivate plugins in eclipse?
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[17:39:26] <staticphilly>  hello chaps, just wondering of somone can tell me if its posable to have muliple types (php,c++ etc) version of eclipse just by putting the plugins into the plugin folder, im on windows :)
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[17:42:18] <BernardMarx> Hi! I am having a weird problem. I have a Nature and a Builder on a project, but sometimes the builder is called two times from Eclipse.
[17:42:30] <BernardMarx> Anybody seen this before?
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[17:44:08] <rcjsuen> staticphilly: you should probably try using the internal provisioning system instead of just throwing them in the folder
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[17:44:44] <rcjsuen> BernardMarx: I guess you could try using breakpoints to see what resource deltas are triggering the build.
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[18:02:56] <BernardMarx> Well you see that is the problem. This happens when I remove the nature and then add it again. My builder gets called 2 times with a null delta..
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[18:16:41] <BernardMarx> hmm so obviously there are two instances of my builder beeing generated. I don't know wmy
[18:16:42] <BernardMarx> why
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[18:42:23] <_martin> where how can i set eclipse that i can adjust the code
[18:42:38] <_martin> that eclipse will use the right Tabs for example
[18:42:49] <_martin> in vs.net i use STRG E D
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[18:58:18] <rcjsuen> "will use the right tabs"?
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[19:02:09] <choeger1> Hi! Does anyone know how jdt does implement this "multiple locations editing mode" you get e.g. in renaming?
[19:02:28] <rcjsuen> linked mode model/ui I imagine
[19:02:30] <martin_-_> _martin> i had to set the format keybinding
[19:02:36] <rcjsuen> that's how it's done for parameter tabbing in code completion
[19:02:53] <choeger1> rcjsuen: linked mode?
[19:03:07] <rcjsuen> choeger1: use open type and search
[19:03:10] <rcjsuen> or grep the APIs
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[19:19:59] <choeger1> rcjsuen: yeah, that usually works, but what am I searching for?
[19:20:13] <rcjsuen> choeger1: a class named LinkedModeModel / LinkedModeUI :o
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[19:22:36] <choeger1> ah, yes LinkedModeModel in jface
[19:23:00] <choeger1> (googling for linked mode yielded nothing)
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[20:01:28] <jamescarr> any idea why the frak doing a find and replace of < with &lt; would lock the latest eclipse 3.5 up indefinitely on a small xml file?
[20:02:46] <jamescarr> that is so retarded
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[20:04:33] <hdave1> Is there a way to add/delete items from the "RunAs..." menu?
[20:04:45] <rcjsuen> open the run config dialog
[20:04:49] <rcjsuen> and use the red X button to delete
[20:05:06] <rcjsuen> there are also icons for making new ones
[20:05:17] <hdave1> I've went there but could not find the Maven ones I'd like to delete.
[20:05:34] <rcjsuen> screenshot of dialog + popup menu
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[20:05:36] <hdave1> rcjsuen: I also made a new Maven one and it does not appear in the RunAs... menu
[20:05:53] <rcjsuen> maybe it's an external tool launch config, but i'm just guessing
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[20:06:37] <hdave1> no external tools define..... :-(
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[20:07:04] <rcjsuen> dunno, I would personally require screenshots for additional context
[20:07:55] <hdave1> difficult to supply.....sorry...but thanks anyway rcjsuen
[20:08:20] <rcjsuen> you'd have to ask the plug-in authors then
[20:10:26] <jamescarr> out of curiosity, I noticed when I do a search in some maven repos, they only list bundles instead of jar artifacts
[20:10:28] <jamescarr> wtf?
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[20:30:55] <tpre> hi, i'm importing an project from netbeans, and i'm struggling to get it working. basically i get lots of errors about not existing an Math.min(int, int) method, and others likewise
[20:35:43] <nitind> tpre: Is it recognized as a Java project?
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[20:36:54] <rcjsuen> i.e. do you see the blue J letter in the project
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[20:38:40] <tpre> nitind, rcjsuen yes
[20:38:57] <rcjsuen> if you make a new java project and try using Math.min does it work
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[20:39:42] <tpre> rcjsuen i'm gonna test it
[20:41:51] <tpre> rcjsuen ok, i created a hello world sample, and typed math.min [ctrl]+[space] and it shows the double signature. is this enough?
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[20:50:44] <hdave1> I'm using Eclipse for Java development and just set up a new machine (Eclipse/Maven/SVN).  I have Java files with errors in them as witness by the little red "x" in the margin of the file, but there is no red x on the file icon in the package explorer or project explorer.  I have Build Automatically check.  Any ideas?
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[20:54:48] <pnehrer> wondering if someone from Platform UI might have an answer: shouldn't it be possible to use org.eclipse.ui.menus to contribute to top-level editor menus?
[20:55:31] <pnehrer> the doc says it should, but I can't seem to get it to work
[20:55:37] <pnehrer> nor do I see any code that should make it work
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[21:25:47] <Norm> anyone know if eclipse can deploy a dynamic web project to a remote tomcat server?
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[21:27:29] <rcjsuen> tpre: then i guess the classpath is not setup for your nb proj
[21:28:42] <juanez> Norm, i think there's a plugin for that
[21:30:00] <Norm> juanez: i see a plugin called Tomcat Deployer, will check it out thanks
[21:30:21] <juanez> yw
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[21:34:56] <Arnos> what does:
[21:34:58] <Arnos> "ERROR: JDWP Unable to get JNI 1.2 environment, jvm->GetEnv() return code = -2
[21:35:00] <Arnos> JDWP exit error AGENT_ERROR_NO_JNI_ENV(183):  [../../../src/share/back/util.c:820]"
[21:35:02] <Arnos> mean?
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[21:36:29] <GrayShade> Hello.. I have a (dynamic) web project and a file I want to be copied in the project's root path. Can I do this?
[21:37:19] <nitind> GrayShade:  Not easily, no.  And do you mean the project in the workspace, or where it deploys on the server?
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[21:38:25] <GrayShade> nitind: The project in the workspace, that I run from the IDE.
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[21:38:47] <GrayShade> It's a crossdomain.xml kind of file.
[21:41:10] <nitind> GrayShade: I assumed it was a project in the workspace and that you were running it from the IDE.  What I'm curious about is where is the file supposed to go, into the workspace project, or somewhere special on the server when you go and run the project?
[21:43:57] <GrayShade> nitind: I don't really care where in the IDE I put the file, but I'd like it to be copied next to the project files when I run the project. Right now I'm copying it from time to time into .metadata/plugins/org.eclipse.wst.server.core/tmpX/wtpwebapps/ROOT or something like that, but..
[21:46:39] <d_a_carver> GrayShade: you could setup a build script to do that or an ant script to do it when the project is built.
[21:47:39] <GrayShade> I was hoping this was easy to do from the IDE since I thought it was a common operation :).
[21:48:08] <d_a_carver> GrayShade: if you put it in your WebContent folder, it'll be copied and deployed.
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[21:49:00] <GrayShade> d_a_carver: I tried to, but it's doesn't get copied into the server root, but in the project's root.
[21:49:52] <GrayShade> The server is a local Tomcat server.
[21:50:05] <d_a_carver> GrayShade have you checked the WTP Tomcat faq?
[21:50:22] <d_a_carver> http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Tomcat_FAQ
[21:52:05] <GrayShade> Oh, never mind. Turns out that file doesn't really have to be in the server root. :)
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[22:27:30] <multiHYP> hi everybody
[22:27:51] * d_a_carver waves.
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[22:27:53] <multiHYP> remember i had a xml parsing issue a while ago, well it turned out to be still unsolved
[22:28:21] <d_a_carver> multiHYP: did you go through basic dom tutorials I sent you.
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[22:28:59] <multiHYP> yes, i know xml in itself verywell, but the sax that java uses is new to me
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[22:29:25] <d_a_carver> multiHYP: that is different than the problem before.  You were having DOM problems before.
[22:29:26] <multiHYP> back then i was writing dtd xml and even some xsd files, only now i deal with parsing them in java :(
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[22:30:09] <d_a_carver> multiHYP: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2001/12/05/sax2.html
[22:30:10] <multiHYP> no same problem, i have a many childs inside a child (from which there are several in my root).
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[22:31:57] <d_a_carver> multiHYP: still say the simpliest way is to use XPath to get at what you want.
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[22:36:10] <multiHYP> lets say the root is library, in this library there are many shelves, in each shelve there are many books, now i need access to each shelves books that have some attributes, i.e. title, etc...
[22:36:10] <multiHYP> ok any resources available for that?
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[22:37:47] <multiHYP> well d_a_carver that book is too much honestly
[22:37:47] <multiHYP> i just need to add a little xml parsing
[22:38:06] <KWhat_Work> any ideas on this error http://pastebin.com/d4cac2927 it goes on and on for like 6000 lines
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[22:42:13] <nitind> multiHYP: He's right in saying that XPath would be simplest.  But you can find all the elements with the name you care about and work with that list.
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[22:42:48] <multiHYP> well, xpath needs to be included in my project, which is extra weight
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[22:43:07] <d_a_carver> multiHYP: XPath parser comes with JRE 1.5 or greater.
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[22:44:08] <splatch> hello
[22:44:19] <d_a_carver> multiHYP: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-domjava/  Should have everything you need.
[22:44:32] <multiHYP> nitind: did you read my library metaphor?
[22:44:32] <multiHYP> i need a simple example for that, then all is sorted...
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[22:45:19] <nitind> multiHYP: Can you read the article that d_a_carver mentions?  You're not going to get past this without reading a little about the concepts.
[22:45:27] <d_a_carver> multiHYP: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-javaxpathapi.html
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[22:45:52] <d_a_carver> multiHYP: those two articles should get you going... trying to teach you how to fish here. :)
[22:46:01] <multiHYP> ok thanks guys
[22:48:20] <multiHYP> i give it until this very weekend, otherwise stick to my flat text file :(
[22:48:20] * multiHYP im reading that article right now
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[22:48:48] <d_a_carver> multiHYP: you'll want to go through the examples as well, to see how and why it works the way it does.
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[22:58:30] <_j4zz_> hello all
[22:59:06] <_j4zz_> where can I have a look on the source of org.eclipse.equinox.launchers.Main ?
[22:59:31] <_j4zz_> I couldn't find it in http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher/src/org/eclipse/equinox/launcher/
[22:59:44] <_j4zz_> the dir is empty
[22:59:45] <_j4zz_> any idea?
[23:00:08] <rcjsuen> if you have the SDK you could probably just use open type to find it
[23:00:24] <_j4zz_> I comes with no source
[23:00:43] <rcjsuen> you should try the RT repository
[23:00:46] <rcjsuen> instead of the Eclipse one btw
[23:00:55] <_j4zz_> ur l?
[23:01:28] <rcjsuen> use the combo control on the site to switch repos
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[23:02:39] <_j4zz_> what is RT, btw ?
[23:03:26] <rcjsuen> http://www.eclipse.org/rt/
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[23:04:32] <_j4zz_> thanks
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[23:05:59] <glima> hi, people
[23:06:05] <glima> does anyone know of a simple way (maybe a simple builddefinition) for a cdt-based eclipse plugin just trigger autogen.sh,configure,make in its builds?
[23:06:17] <glima> the autotools infra found on the linux tools project is *not* extensible as is too bloated to be based upon for a quick project
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[23:08:34] <multiHYP> nice read but even under resources there is no proper tutorial, or explanation on how to use xpath.
[23:09:39] <multiHYP> and as i said before, it needs extra libraries, like xerces and xalan
[23:10:08] <_j4zz_> when launching an RCP product from another java application (via org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main), where does it search for the osgi bundles?
[23:10:31] <_j4zz_> or even better, how do I tell it to search in some place specific?
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[23:12:10] <_j4zz_> is it the '-install' option?
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[23:19:52] <d_a_carver> multiHYP: which are all included in your JRE.
[23:20:00] <d_a_carver> sigh...some people.
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[23:22:29] <rcjsuen> i had totally forgotten that Sun started included Xerces in 1.5, replacing Crimson :O
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[23:33:11] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: what is even more funny is that if he was using SAX, it was being provided by Xerces more than likely.
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[23:58:27] <toulmean> allright, I have a weird issue with Equinox and org.eclipse.equinox.app.IApplication
[23:59:04] <toulmean> I cannot run my application, it complains it cannot match the signature of my method:
[23:59:22] <toulmean>  method: start signature: (Lorg/eclipse/equinox/app/IApplicationContext;)Ljava/lang/Object;) Incompatible argument to function
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[23:59:50] <toulmean> when looking at the reference of the extension point the IApplication interface is not located in the same package:
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