[00:01:02] <[-jon-]_> what is the default plugin url for eclipse?
[00:01:11] <[-jon-]_> I'm trying to install a plugin from another source but it depends on something that I dont have
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[00:04:40] <rcjsuen> [-jon-]_: i guess you mean http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo/
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[00:08:01] <jham> rcjsuen: done
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[00:08:20] <rayfix> hello all
[00:10:59] <rcjsuen> jham: Thank you for contributing to Eclipse.
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[00:17:17] <alex87> i haven't really used an IDE before, is eclipse worthwhile to learn?
[00:17:41] <rcjsuen> alex87: Kind of an odd question to ask...in the #eclipse channel.
[00:17:43] <jham> alex87: i think depends on what you want
[00:18:05] <rcjsuen> You may want to ask in another channel to help remove bias ;)
[00:18:26] <jham> in #vim for example :)
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[00:18:31] <alex87> well i'm using it for php development, with subversion. i find myself looking up functions and jumping around file browsers all the time, but i don't need anything too fancy
[00:18:32] <alex87> haha
[00:18:35] <rcjsuen> jham: Excellent choice.
[00:19:11] <rcjsuen> I don't use Eclipse for PHP, no comment on my part.
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[00:20:04] <jham> well, in vim you can jump to functions and even debug php with xdebug. just my 2 cents
[00:20:27] <jham> so it still depends on what you _really_ want
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[00:21:53] <alex87> maybe i'll just give it a go for a while. just seems a bit heavy duty
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[00:22:07] <jham> i use eclipse only for mdsd and uml. for everything else i use my favorite editor
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[00:23:16] <jham> maybe would use it too if i'd develop with java
[00:23:52] <jham> but very unlikely
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[00:43:01] <alex87> with subversive, can i remove a file from version control? (without deleting it)
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[00:56:48] <rayfix> does anyone know how to escape an & so that appears in a tooltip
[00:57:04] <rayfix> \& isn't valid
[00:57:10] <rcjsuen> &&?
[00:57:21] <rayfix> I will give it a try
[00:58:04] <rayfix> yay!  that works, thanks
[00:58:06] <rcjsuen> You're talking about SWT I'm guessing.
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[01:00:28] <rayfix> yes, SWT
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[03:41:59] <Galik> hi. I have just done an "update" in eclipse Ganymede and now eclipse won't start. Is it possible to somehow roll-back whatever changes the last update made?
[03:42:24] <Galik> Is there a record of what files were upgraded somewhere?
[03:42:55] <rcjsuen> What happens when you try to start it?
[03:44:52] <Galik> The splash appears, then an error message telling me to check the log file. Then it dies when I dismiss the dialog
[03:46:26] <Galik> This is the first error: "!MESSAGE An error occurred while automatically activating bundle org.eclipse.ui.workbench (256)."
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[03:48:19] <Galik> This is the top of the first stack trace: "org.osgi.framework.BundleException: The activator org.eclipse.ui.internal.WorkbenchPlugin for bundle org.eclipse.ui.workbench is invalid"
[03:49:30] <rcjsuen> Certainly sounds like it's hosed.
[03:49:52] <Galik> Actually examining the stack trace further it goes on to say "Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/eclipse/swt/SWTError"
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[03:50:15] <Galik> yes. its not wanting to run.
[03:50:44] <Galik> I just don't want the grief of hunting down all  the plugins I use again if I reinstall
[03:51:09] <Galik> Is there a list of update sites that I could retrieve from this installation maybe?
[03:51:48] <rcjsuen> not sure, maybe in eclipse/configuration somewhere i guess
[03:52:20] <rcjsuen> you could try to get a 3.5 installation and copy over the plug-ins tho since the installation is hosed maybe the copying would be broken to
[03:53:28] <rcjsuen> i'm not positive if it works for 3.4 to 3.5 tho now that i think about it
[03:55:06] <Galik> I just found an update history folder so I may be able to see what got updated. I can't see why it can't fins SWT though. That is absolutely core classes.
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[04:21:17] <solotandem> just installed 3.5.1 on linux; can not connect to cvs; can not install subclipse; ?
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[04:21:42] <rcjsuen> Can you conect from the command line?
[04:22:03] <solotandem> have not tried
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[04:34:30] <funkt0r> Hi, when I rename a Java package in eclipse, the old package name has a white square with a red X through it in my project. I try to delete it but it just sits there.
[04:34:49] <rcjsuen> Can't say I've heard of that one.
[04:34:54] <rcjsuen> Did you try refreshing?
[04:35:20] <funkt0r> yes
[04:36:39] <funkt0r> ah nevermind, it seems to be a subversion thing, I have to commit to make it go away
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[04:56:54] <apstanto> I just installed eclipse 3.5.1 and also installed the CDT.  But now I'm receiving an error "Unresolved inclusion: <string>"
[04:57:04] <solotandem> cvs works from command line but still nothing in eclipse
[04:57:50] <solotandem> the new repository dialog has the host and path selection boxes disabled
[04:58:33] <apstanto> pardon my ignorance. . . but what is cvs?
[04:58:46] <funkt0r> asptanto : Go to window->properties->C++ builder or something, and there should be an option to add include paths
[04:59:53] <solotandem> concurrent version system
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[05:00:17] <solotandem> for managing versions of files, e.g. software
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[05:01:46] <Leemp> Question: How can i make auto complete either A: activate at any time when i press a button (preferably tab), or simply auto activate. As it is now, i can only seem to activate it by the period key. This is sort of odd considering how many things there are to auto-complete, that don't even have a period in them.
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[05:02:12] <Leemp> Note, when using the tab auto complete, it would be a normal tab key if used on whitespace.
[05:02:23] <Leemp> (ideally. Thats what my normal ide uses)
[05:06:47] <Galik> Leemp: I use <ctrl> <space> to initiate autocomplete
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[05:09:49] <Galik> Also in the configuration under Language->Content Assist there could be some settings.
[05:10:04] <Galik> Replace "Language" with the language you are editing
[05:10:36] <Galik> I'm using C++ so my setting is Preferences->C++->Editor->Content Assist
[05:10:47] <apstanto> If I want to do a "#include <string>" in my code, what would I put in the "Add Directory Path" window?
[05:10:58] <funkt0r> wait, for LongBuffer/DoubleBuffer etc.. the absolute limit is set at the start?
[05:11:13] <Galik> apstanto: /usr/include
[05:11:14] <funkt0r> absolute length limit?
[05:11:19] <funkt0r> sorry wrong chan
[05:11:33] <Galik> apstanto: But there should be an option to make CDT find this automatically
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[05:13:23] <Galik> apstanto: on your project, select "properties" then C/C++ General then "Paths and Symbols"
[05:13:23] <apstanto> That's what I thought, but it doesn't seem to find it.
[05:13:49] <Galik> Then select the "Includes" tab
[05:13:53] <apstanto> I added the /usr/include but it still has an error
[05:14:14] <apstanto> Unresolved inclusion: <string>
[05:14:23] <Galik> apstanto: sorry, my bad c++ needs more
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[05:14:42] <Galik> There is a switch to make it get them, ill see if I can find it
[05:14:55] <apstanto> Thanks a bunch!
[05:15:43] <Galik> apstanto: In the properties select C/C++ Build -> Discovery Options
[05:16:01] <Galik> Then on GCC C++ Compiler
[05:16:37] <Galik> Then you need to check the box "Automatically discover paths and symbols"
[05:17:23] <apstanto> Yeah it's selected!
[05:17:31] <Galik> Make sure it has the correct "Discovery Profile" selected (GCC per file scanner profile)
[05:18:03] <apstanto> yep.
[05:18:58] <Galik> So what exactly do you have listed under C/C++ General_.Paths and Symbols-> Includes?
[05:19:37] <Galik> There shoulkd be about 7-10 entries there
[05:20:04] <Galik> Ok. Maybe your Indexer is not working fully
[05:20:15] <apstanto> two entries.  "GNU C" and  "GNU C++"
[05:20:26] <Galik> Goto C/C++ General->Indexer
[05:20:54] <apstanto> ok.
[05:21:06] <Galik> Enable project specific settings and select Full Indexer
[05:21:32] <apstanto> ok. got it.
[05:22:00] <Galik> that may take a while at first
[05:22:32] <apstanto> It's done...but I still get the error.
[05:23:01] <Galik> Has it finished indexing? Check the progress tab
[05:23:22] <apstanto> where's the progress tab?
[05:25:03] <Galik> There should be some activity on the bottom info bar
[05:25:22] <Galik> Bottom right saying "C/C++ Indexer (70%)
[05:25:35] <apstanto> don't see any
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[05:26:04] <david_> i can't for the life of me install a version of eclipse that LETS ME install plugins!
[05:26:16] <david_> when i click find new updates... then hit NEXT nothing happens
[05:28:02] <apstanto> Galik: there's lot's of options in the indexer properties, so I just used the default values and hit "ok"
[05:28:20] <Galik> apstanto: Ok. Select your project, right click for menu then Index->Rebuild
[05:30:33] <apstanto> I did it.  It went real fast.  Less than a second.
[05:30:57] <Galik> And also go to Main Menu: Window->Preferences then select Indexer
[05:31:28] <Galik> On that page there is an option box "Automatically update the index"
[05:31:40] <Galik> Also "Update the index on save"
[05:31:47] <Galik> You may want to check them
[05:33:32] <Galik> david_: goto Help->Install new software...
[05:33:38] <david_> when i click next
[05:33:40] <david_> nothing happens
[05:33:44] <david_> its like its broke
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[05:34:05] <apstanto> ok. I set it to "Full C/C++ Indexer" and it took about a second to process, but I've still got the error.
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[05:34:27] <Galik> Hmmm
[05:34:27] <Hilikus> hey guys
[05:35:06] <Hilikus> i'm trying to get the source code for eclipse but there's a bunch of subprojects. what's the main one called, just the plain IDE
[05:35:27] <Galik> apstanto: what exactly is you error?
[05:36:33] <apstanto> orange underline of my "#include <string>" and it says "Unresolved inclusion: <string>"
[05:37:38] <Galik> apstanto: do you have gcc-c++ installed?
[05:39:11] <apstanto> yes, but only certain parts of it.  Namely the ones that this online tutorial said to include: http://max.berger.name/howto/cdt/ar01s04.jsp#installingcdt
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[05:39:35] <Galik> apstanto: do you have the folder /usr/include/c++
[05:40:14] <Galik> apstanto: Ah, your on windows...
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[05:41:17] <apstanto> actually, looking under C++ "Include Directories" there is nothing
[05:41:28] <apstanto> I'm on linux
[05:42:10] <apstanto> How do I look for /usr/include/c++
[05:42:43] <Galik> type: ls /usr/include/c++
[05:42:54] <Galik> at the console
[05:43:12] <Galik> or use the file manager to navigate there
[05:43:16] <apstanto> I have "4.4  4.4.1"
[05:43:21] <Galik> god
[05:43:24] <Galik> good *
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[05:43:44] <Galik> now type ls /usr/include/c++/4.1.1
[05:43:58] <Galik> you should be able to see a file called "string"
[05:44:13] <Galik> That is the header file you want to include
[05:44:31] <apstanto>  No such file or directory
[05:45:11] <Galik> sorry type ls /usr/include/c++/4.4.1
[05:46:13] <apstanto> string is in there!
[05:46:20] <Galik> hmmm
[05:46:34] <Galik> Well I am a bit stumped
[05:46:43] <apstanto> btw. Thanks for your time!!!
[05:47:00] <apstanto> I'm stumped too.
[05:47:13] <apstanto> I'm a little new to eclipse.
[05:47:21] <Galik> Hang on. Go to Properties->C/C++ General->Paths and Symbols again
[05:47:31] <apstanto> And I'm really new to C++
[05:47:34] <apstanto> ok
[05:47:42] <Galik> Then select the item GCU C++
[05:48:06] <apstanto> yeah...nothing there
[05:48:24] <Galik> In the list called "Include directories" there should be listed "/usr/include/c++/4.4.1
[05:48:29] <Galik> nothing?
[05:48:34] <Galik> Thats the problem
[05:48:57] <apstanto> yeah.  mentioned it a little earlier
[05:49:12] <Galik> I thought we fixed it
[05:49:28] <Galik> Can you check in C/C++ Build->Discover options
[05:49:44] <Galik> Select GCC C++ Compiler
[05:50:07] <Galik> Then check the boxes: Automate discovery of paths and symbols
[05:50:35] <Galik> And: Report path detection problems
[05:50:52] <apstanto> yeah.  did that already.
[05:50:59] <Galik> hmm
[05:51:13] <Galik> Then you maybe can put them in manually
[05:51:35] <Galik> If you go back to C?C++ General->Paths and symbols
[05:51:43] <Galik> Select GCC C++
[05:51:56] <Galik> I'll past the list you need in a paste bin
[05:54:04] <Galik> Hmm what distro are you running?
[05:54:22] <Galik> You at least need to add this one: /usr/include/c++/4.4.1/
[05:54:36] <apstanto> ubuntu 9.10
[05:55:30] <Galik> ok, Im using a different flavour of linux
[05:55:54] <apstanto> which?
[05:56:14] <Galik> But the above directory may be enough
[05:56:20] <Galik> Im using Fedora 11
[05:57:01] <Galik> Try adding  the include directory /usr/include/c++/4.4.1 and see if that works
[05:57:28] <Galik> Otherwise try creating a new project. These directories should be set automatically
[05:57:50] <apstanto> tried it. no luck.
[05:58:18] <apstanto> The project I'm working on was imported.
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[06:02:18] <apstanto> created a new project. added a source file [.c] and put the #include's in and it still gives the same error :(
[06:03:00] <Galik> maybe check the Properties->Build/Discovery Options for the new project?
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[06:03:40] <Galik> apstanto: change the file name to .cpp not .c
[06:03:46] <apstanto> wow.  Theres a whole bunch of them!
[06:04:58] <apstanto> Hey. That WORKS!!!
[06:05:15] <apstanto> all the source files are .c files in my project.
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[06:05:30] <Galik> That's because .c is a different language [C} to a .cpp (C++)
[06:05:46] <Galik> So it liiks for different headers ijn a different place
[06:05:52] <Galik> #liiks = looks
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[06:06:32] <Galik> apstanto: you could probably copy all your source files into the new project
[06:06:47] <apstanto> ok
[06:06:54] <Galik> But you will need to rename them to .cpp if you want to convert them from C to C++
[06:06:55] <apstanto> I'm working on a homework assignment, and the prof. gave us the eclipse project with all the files in it.
[06:07:09] <Galik> hmm
[06:07:27] <apstanto> The assignment is in C++, but all the source files are .c
[06:07:27] <Galik> But its a C++ project right? Not C?
[06:07:40] <Galik> oh
[06:07:52] <apstanto> No wonder there are errors all over the place
[06:08:33] <Galik> Well strictly speaking it doesn't matter what the files are .c or .cpp but the compiler and the eclipse IDE both default to using .cpp for C++
[06:08:53] <apstanto> He gives us a makefile...
[06:09:02] <Galik> So its much easier to rename the files than reconfigure the compiler
[06:09:09] <Galik> Makefile!!
[06:09:13] <Galik> Ah!
[06:10:48] <Galik> apstanto: ok then that effects the kind of project you need to create in eclipse
[06:11:08] <apstanto> ok.  I usually just import it.
[06:11:39] <Galik> yes, but this time it seems your project isn't down the line
[06:12:47] <apstanto> so what kind of project to I need? Is it selected at import time?
[06:13:03] <Galik> To be honest the Makefile complicates things.
[06:13:30] <Galik> without seeing the Makefile its hard to know how best to sort this all out
[06:13:44] <apstanto> It worked fine for c and java
[06:15:02] <Galik> apstanto: importing the project should make all the settings right. Maybe try just deleting the project and start the import again.
[06:16:52] <apstanto> still get the warnings :(
[06:18:11] <Galik> I don't really know what to suggest. I suppose he wants the Makefile handed in as part of the assignment.
[06:18:40] <Galik> You could rename all the .c files to .cpp and also change the Makefile to reflect that
[06:18:49] <apstanto> I think it goes with it
[06:19:06] <Galik> But then you need to create a new project in eclipse, not using his one.
[06:19:16] <apstanto> ...but then change them back before I turn it in.
[06:19:24] <Galik> You need to select the right project type
[06:19:27] <apstanto> Oh. I'd need a new project
[06:19:59] <Galik> apstanto: No. You should hand in everything including changes you need to make to build everything. Give an explanation for the changes
[06:20:36] <Galik> You should always hand in a fully working build.
[06:21:02] <apstanto> other option is to code in a text editor ... not fun.
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[06:21:27] <Galik> apstanto: Or you could just ignore this error message
[06:21:47] <Galik> You won't get code completion for any C++ headers though
[06:22:32] <apstanto> Yeah.  I'm trying to use a function called strcpy but I get "?strcpy? was not declared in this scope"
[06:22:52] <apstanto> I was told that this would go away if I fixed the warnings.
[06:22:57] <Galik> strcpy is a C function.
[06:23:28] <Galik> apstanto: you need to build the project differently for a manual Makefile
[06:23:38] <Galik> Open your Makefile in the IDE
[06:23:41] <apstanto> hmm
[06:23:49] <apstanto> ok
[06:24:04] <Galik> Then on the right hand side select the Outline view
[06:24:41] <Galik> Look for the targets in the Outline
[06:24:56] <Galik> You probably want "all" and "clean"
[06:25:25] <apstanto> I see them
[06:25:30] <Galik> When you select "all" right click it and select "Add make target"
[06:25:42] <Galik> Do the same with "clean"
[06:26:18] <apstanto> u-huh
[06:26:23] <Galik> Then go to main Menu: Window->Show View->Make Targets
[06:26:58] <Galik> Then navigate the folders untill you see the green target symbols for all and clean
[06:27:16] <Galik> You should build the project by clicking on those
[06:27:39] <Galik> That view should appear where the Outline window is
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[06:28:47] <apstanto> yeah I got it.  It seems to build.  But it still gives the compiler warnings.
[06:29:01] <Galik> what warning?
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[06:29:41] <apstanto> ?strcpy? was not declared in this scope
[06:29:54] <Galik> Well any warning from the Build from the Makefile are the problems of the Makefile itself, not the eclipse IDE config.
[06:30:14] <Galik> Or they are genuine coding errors
[06:31:46] <apstanto> I've been told they are not, but I'll ask again.  I'm really new to C++.
[06:32:41] <apstanto> I'm really comfortable in java and know a little bit of c
[06:33:14] <Galik> c++ is harder for sure, but I think this project file is broken.
[06:33:26] <Galik> It should work out of the tin.
[06:33:35] <apstanto> could be.
[06:33:49] <apstanto> Yeah it should work.
[06:33:54] <Galik> Can you build the project at the command line?
[06:36:49] <apstanto> no.  But there's only one error, and it seems (as far as I can tell) to be with my code (not his).
[06:37:21] <apstanto> I'm gonna ask the tutor again.  He didn't really know what to say, and he said my code looked fine.
[06:37:35] <Galik> ok.
[06:37:41] <apstanto> I really appreciate all your help!!!
[06:37:43] <Galik> hope you get it sorted
[06:37:49] <apstanto> Thanks so much!
[06:37:56] <Galik> ur welcom :)
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[07:40:06] <solid_liq> what's the best release of Eclipse (with C++ support) to get right now?
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[08:03:29] <Galik> solid_liq: the latest? I'm using the latest and its great
[08:03:57] <Galik> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/galileo/SR1/eclipse-cpp-galileo-SR1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[08:04:03] <solid_liq> no annoying issues, like random pauses for half a second?
[08:04:35] <solid_liq> Galik, k cool, thanks! :)
[08:04:57] <Galik> This version it pretty good for that.
[08:05:30] <Galik> If you have te indexer set to full index and include a lot of headers you can still get some pausing
[08:05:45] <Galik> But its really not an issue like it used to be
[08:06:22] <Galik> Although I must confess I can't get the debugger working yet...
[08:06:45] <Galik> I expect that's just me tho
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[08:26:03] <testi_> How can I install a plugin from a zip file?
[08:26:27] <testi_> And how do I know that a plugin is installed?
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[08:28:17] <testi> And where is the plugins directory, it doesn't seem to be created yet
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[08:33:16] <testi> Or where can I find documentation about plugin installation in eclipse?
[08:33:40] <testi> Is the plugin directory named plugins or plugin?
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[09:42:03] <MrStein> In version 3.5.1, inspect variable by pointing does not work in debugger. If I select it , right click and select "Inspect", then it works fine. This happens every now and then. Any clue why?
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[10:40:15] <MrStein> Is it just m or is debugging Java much slower than it used to be? (I mean the speed of java code execution between the breakpoints)
[10:40:33] <MrStein> m=me
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[10:46:42] <philk__> how can I add a inplace checkbox/combo data binding into a table cell to switch the models boolean property?
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[10:59:45] <awilkins> Anyone point me at how I can detect which column I'm dropping onto in a tree when I use a ViewerDropAdapter?
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[11:49:22] <mcsmurf> hi, I wanted to install the Webtools plugin from http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R3.1/R-3.1.1-20090917225226/
[11:49:48] <mcsmurf> do I need Eclipse 3.5 for that one or is 3.4.2 also good enough? It's not really clear to me from this page what version I need...
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[11:55:31] <xoLax_wrk> if i have all my junit tests as fragments, how can i test the parts of the code that calls the osgi framework. i.e. how can i run the tests with osgi services running and registered?
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[12:08:21] <alexxio> hi
[12:08:21] <alexxio> i have a problem
[12:08:33] <alexxio> i resetted perspective
[12:08:41] <alexxio> i created a c++ project
[12:09:10] <alexxio> but when i build an hello world, it says **** Build of configuration Default for project operai ****
[12:09:11] <alexxio> make all
[12:09:11] <alexxio> C:\Symbian\9.2\S60_3rd_FP1\epoc32\tools\make.exe: *** No rule to make target `all'.  Stop.
[12:09:33] <alexxio> this is because i configured symbian and android for learning the basis
[12:09:50] <alexxio> but now, if i want to create a simple c++ project, i don't know how to do
[12:10:20] <alexxio> 'cause it says also: make.exe: *** No rule to make target `all'.
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[12:13:20] <alexxio> can you please tell me how to solve that?
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[12:44:01] <Elirips> Hello. I'm just a little bit confused about CDT: I have a project, with one file in it, how can I tell CDT to build from this file an executable? I have set the Artifact type to executalb,e set up the gcc-command, etc.. But IT only says "nothing to build for project A" What am I doint wrong?
[12:46:00] <Elirips> ok, the problem seems to be, that I copied an entire project to this new project.. It still acts on the sources of the old project
[12:46:09] <Elirips> But where in all these settings can I change that=
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[12:53:23] <Elirips> Bah - the source file containg the main-method was excluded from build..
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[13:05:21] <alexxio> i really have to reset everything and learn how to do a simple console app with eclipse in c/c++
[13:05:31] <alexxio> is there a tutorial for that?
[13:07:49] <dpy> wtf!!??  I get classes that get initialized multiple times here....
[13:07:52] <dpy> grrr
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[13:08:22] <dpy> Does the eclipse osgi classloader load classes multiple times?
[13:08:28] <dpy> is it allowed to?
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[13:17:38] <rcjsuen_> dpy: You mean it's static block is called multiple times?
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[13:24:55] <dpy> rcjsuen: yes!
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[13:37:35] <paulweb515> dpy: the answer is "depends" :-)
[13:37:54] <paulweb515> dpy: in a singleton bundle, no, the class will be loaded once
[13:39:09] <paulweb515> In theory it should still only be loaded once per version of a bundle ... i.e. if you have o.e.ui.forms 3.3.0 and 3.4.0, the system can load both (and you would see the same static executed twice ... except it's not really quite the same static)
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[14:16:57] <pharell> guys does anyome knows how to change a text color in Text Compare
[14:16:59] <pharell> ?
[14:17:39] <pharell> gray background and black foreground dosen't look well
[14:19:35] <FauxFaux> Preferences -> color -> text compare, perhaps.
[14:20:02] * FauxFaux shudders at the incorrect spelling of colour.
[14:20:37] <pharell> there is no such a setting
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[14:21:50] <rcjsuen> FauxFaux: lol
[14:22:32] <pharell> General -> Appearance -> Text Compare -> Compare text font
[14:22:39] <pharell> isn't changing a font color (
[14:22:46] <pharell> where can i do this?
[14:22:54] <FauxFaux> It appears not to have the greyness on there, to be fair.
[14:23:10] <pharell> does anyone here uses Text Compare or not?
[14:23:31] <FauxFaux> In fact, changing the colour doesn't even save.
[14:23:32] <rcjsuen> Sure, but I don't use a dark background.
[14:23:44] <pharell> FauxFaux it because of my color syntax theme
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[14:24:18] <FauxFaux> I suspect it gets overridden by the syntax one, yeah.
[14:24:37] <pharell> FauxFaux exactly, the colour setting dosen't save
[14:25:12] <pharell> FauxFaux you mean the syntax coloring from languages?
[14:25:13] <FauxFaux> I use text-compare all the time (we do pre-commit reviews) and it's never annoyed me.
[14:25:30] <FauxFaux> In fact, it's barely grey at all.
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[14:27:27] <pharell> yeepppy
[14:27:48] <pharell> it's in Text Editors -> Foreground color )
[14:28:33] <pharell> you're right it's get overridden
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[14:29:40] <pharell> all the inconvinience of the text compare that it haven't got a syntax highlight )
[14:29:51] <pharell> like languages
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[14:32:54] <no_name> hello
[14:33:04] <no_name> i have a doubt about eclipse
[14:33:20] <no_name> is there a way to start eclipse without loading the plugins?
[14:33:44] <rcjsuen> no_name: The Eclipse platform is made up of bundles (plug-ins), so that's not technically possible.
[14:33:52] <rcjsuen> If you want to pick what to start, then no, not really either.
[14:34:02] <no_name> hmmm
[14:35:47] <no_name> ok, thx
[14:35:55] <no_name> i'll think of something else then
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[14:36:23] <rcjsuen> I wonder what he/she wanted :o
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[14:59:27] <tom17bombadil> Does the context-sensitive help presume all the help-system to be set up?
[15:00:56] <tom17bombadil> I followed several tutorials for the context-help, but F1 is not responding, nor is 'ActionFactory.DYNAMIC_HELP.create(window);'
[15:01:18] <tom17bombadil> (which I ensured is registered)
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[15:17:22] <discozohan> hello, can anyone answer? -.- For example, i can select some text then click 'Tab', and all selected rows will be prepended with tab. Is there a way to do something like this, but not to add but delete tabs ?
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[15:18:16] <rcjsuen> discozohan: Isn't that what Shift+Tab is for?
[15:18:49] <discozohan> rcjsuen: oh ye, thanks ))
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[15:22:35] <bigmack83__> i am on ubuntu 9.10, i installed eclipse 3.5 from the repos but it installed the openjdk files instead of sun-java6. after installing sun-java6 i cant get eclipse to recognize it. so it still uses openjdk, anyone have a way I can make it look at sun's
[15:23:35] <rcjsuen> ~vm
[15:23:36] <Arbalest> To start Eclipse with a specific Java VM, you should start Eclipse with the -vm argument. This should look something like 'eclipse.exe -vm C:\jdk1.5.0.6\bin\java.exe' or './eclipse -vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.03/bin/java'. Note that the path of the 'java' executable is being passed and _not_ a folder.
[15:24:51] <nlc> as root execute "update-alternatives --config java" to config the default java vm for the system
[15:26:31] <bigmack83__> awesome, thanks guys
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[15:34:50] <bigmack83__> when running the command "~/eclipse/eclipse -vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java" it does work, but in window --> preferences --> java --> installed jre's ; it still only shows openjdk.
[15:35:15] <rcjsuen> what you use eclipse to run
[15:35:23] <bigmack83__> i have also ran the command from nlc update-alternatives --config java
[15:35:23] <rcjsuen> is orthogonal to what shows up in that list
[15:35:44] <bigmack83__> im running 3.5 pdt
[15:36:01] <bigmack83__> what do you mean?
[15:38:17] <nlc> do you install sun-java6-jdk ?
[15:38:37] <nlc> or just sun-java6-jre ?
[15:39:03] <bigmack83__> i have both installed. jre installed when in staling jdk
[15:39:03] <rcjsuen> bigmack83__: What I mean is, the JRE Eclipse is run on, may not match what's on that list.
[15:39:24] <bigmack83__> oh ok
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[15:40:18] <bigmack83__> well under that in 'execution environments' it does show JavaSE1.6[perfect match] which i have selected
[15:40:50] <rcjsuen> if you're using PDT I'm not sure why you are concerned with the jre setup :o
[15:41:44] <nlc> when you launch eclipse from terminal, what is showed ?
[15:41:51] <bigmack83__> oh, well the origonal package is pdt, but i have the java packages as well for setting up android/java development
[15:42:10] <bigmack83__> in terminal it doesnt show anything, it just starts
[15:42:29] <nlc> do you have file /etc/eclipse/java_home ?
[15:43:00] <bigmack83__> but running it under openjdk there seemed to be a lot of little glitches like buttons not clicking, which now seem to be fixed. so it seems to be working
[15:43:08] <nlc> hey !
[15:43:41] <nlc> maybe is the gtk problem
[15:43:45] <bigmack83__> nlc, no i dont. i manually downloaded the package from suns web site
[15:44:09] <bigmack83__> gtk problem? i heard someone mention that in the ubuntu room. whats the issue?
[15:44:32] <bigmack83__> well the buttons work now, so i think it was openjdk compatibility. not sure
[15:44:36] <nlc> export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 and the execute eclipse binary
[15:44:42] <nlc> *then
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[15:45:44] <bigmack83__> oh yea i had tried that. didnt work completely
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[15:47:53] <bigmack83__> anywho, it seems to work right now, so thanks a bunch nlc and rcjsuen
[15:48:00] <bigmack83__> im off work, so gotta go
[15:48:12] <nlc> :)
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[16:29:37] <peper> hello
[16:29:47] <peper> how do i update to 3.5.1?
[16:29:55] <peper> i have 3.5.0 i think
[16:30:09] <peper> ohh and what's the difference between  galileo SR1 and eclipse 3.5.1?
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[16:40:29] <davockxp> How can I generate code from UML2 Diagram?
[16:40:47] <davockxp> I know that is with EMF but I can't find the way, help me please :(
[16:41:32] <davockxp> I just need a UML visual modeler with several languages code generation capabilities in eclipse
[16:42:09] <haptiK> why does it have to be in eclipse
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[16:46:28] <davockxp> I prefer to do all in the same framework, but It is not necessary eclipse, do you know about a good open source solution with those capabilitiees haptik ?
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[16:50:07] <haptiK> surprise buttsechs!
[16:50:18] <ramo102> Excuse me, where are repositories for Ganymede? My 3.4 installation does not find update sites anymore...
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[16:52:55] <rcjsuen> peper: sr1 would be a superset of 3.5.1, i suppose
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[16:53:55] <rcjsuen> davockxp: I believe there are commercial solutions out there that would satisfy your requirements.
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[17:14:21] <Kudd> is there a way to open a folder easily
[17:14:31] <Kudd> I mean like when you do ctrl+shift+r
[17:14:33] <Kudd> for files
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[17:25:22] <peper> anyone using eclim?
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[17:26:13] <tom17bombadil> How can I switch the language for 'help', 'file' and the like in my application?
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[17:30:08] <rcjsuen> tom17bombadil: a) get language packs from babel, b) translate yourself
[17:30:19] <rcjsuen> Kudd: Not exactly, no.
[17:30:25] <Kudd> okay, thanks
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[17:31:46] <Kudd> does someone use this plugin: http://www.jcraft.com/jcterm/
[17:31:55] <Kudd> I'd like to change the font, it's horrible, i can't read
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[17:39:30] <tom17bombadil> rcjsuen, thank you!
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[17:43:02] <pietia> why i'm getting The activator dentistassistant.core.ActivatorCore for bundle dentistassistant.core.ui is invalid ?
[17:43:29] <rcjsuen> pietia: What is this, your own code?
[17:43:54] <pietia> rcjsuen, yes. my old app (3.4)
[17:44:04] <pietia> now i'm trying to run it on 3.5
[17:44:09] <rcjsuen> so it worked in 3.4 but when you upgrade and point 3.5 it stopped working?
[17:44:19] <pietia> yes
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[17:45:38] <rcjsuen> try making a new launch config i guess
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[17:47:19] <pietia> ok,i will try
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[17:55:30] <Kudd> rcjsuen: do you do php?
[17:55:48] <rcjsuen> Kudd: No, I just do Eclipse development.
[17:55:54] <Kudd> k
[17:56:03] <Kudd> it's already a good thing lol
[17:56:09] <rcjsuen> I don't even know php ;p
[17:56:23] <Kudd> it's just that Aptana PHP isn't supported anymore
[17:56:23] <pietia> rcjsuen, http://pastie.org/702788
[17:56:25] <Kudd> I miss it
[17:56:29] <rcjsuen> o rite
[17:56:33] <rcjsuen> they are "merging" with PDT
[17:56:37] <Kudd> and I don't really like pdt
[17:56:38] <rcjsuen> or...whatever term they used ;)
[17:56:39] <Kudd> yeah
[17:56:53] <Kudd> so i'd like to know feedbacks on phpeclipse
[17:56:57] <Kudd> if it's better than pdt
[17:57:03] <pietia> rcjsuen, ^ this same with new product description
[17:57:10] <rcjsuen> o
[17:57:13] <rcjsuen> it's an rcp product
[17:57:27] <rcjsuen> did you try flushing your runtime ws
[17:57:31] <rcjsuen> altho don't think that will help
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[17:57:45] <rcjsuen> what does your MANIFEST.MF and build.properties file look like
[17:57:58] <rcjsuen> and your dentistassistant.core.ActivatorCore code
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[17:59:04] <pietia> http://pastie.org/702793
[17:59:23] <Kudd> rah, I always have this error when I start eclipse: Project facet jst.web has not been defined. It is used in plugin org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.web.core.
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[18:00:03] <pietia> rcjsuen, http://pastie.org/702795
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[18:00:39] <rcjsuen> pietia: what is this ->
[18:00:39] <rcjsuen> source.. = src/
[18:00:39] <rcjsuen> output.. = bin/
[18:00:39] <rcjsuen> javacDefaultEncoding.. =  UTF-8
[18:00:39] <rcjsuen> bin.includes = META-INF/,\
[18:00:40] <rcjsuen>                .,\
[18:00:42] <rcjsuen>                plugin.xml,\
[18:00:46] <rcjsuen>                icons/
[18:00:48] <rcjsuen> Manifest-Version: 1.0
[18:00:50] <rcjsuen> Bundle-ManifestVersion: 2
[18:00:52] <rcjsuen> Bundle-Name: Company Plug-in
[18:00:54] <rcjsuen> Bundle-SymbolicName: dentistassistant.ui.company;singleton:=true
[18:00:56] <rcjsuen> Bundle-Version: 1.0.0
[18:00:58] <rcjsuen> Eclipse-BuddyPolicy: registered
[18:01:00] <rcjsuen> Bundle-Activator: dentistassistant.ui.company.Activator
[18:01:02] <rcjsuen> Require-Bundle: org.eclipse.ui,
[18:01:04] <rcjsuen>  org.eclipse.core.runtime,
[18:01:06] <rcjsuen>  org.eclipse.ui.forms;bundle-version="3.4.0",
[18:01:08] <rcjsuen>  dentistassistant.core.ui;bundle-version="1.0.0"
[18:01:10] <rcjsuen> Bundle-ActivationPolicy: lazy
[18:01:12] <rcjsuen> Bundle-RequiredExecutionEnvironment: JavaSE-1.6
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[18:01:16] <rcjsuen> Import-Package: org.eclipse.ui.forms.widgets
[18:01:18] <rcjsuen> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
[18:01:20] <rcjsuen> <?eclipse version="3.2"?>
[18:01:22] <rcjsuen> <plugin>
[18:01:24] <rcjsuen>    <extension
[18:01:26] <rcjsuen>          point="org.eclipse.ui.perspectives">
[18:01:28] <rcjsuen>       <perspective
[18:01:30] <rcjsuen>             class="dentistassistant.ui.company.PerspectiveCompany"
[18:01:32] <rcjsuen>             icon="icons/actions/configure.png"
[18:01:34] <rcjsuen>             id="dentistassistant.ui.company.perspective"
[18:01:36] <rcjsuen>             name="Firma">
[18:01:38] <rcjsuen>       </perspective>
[18:01:40] <rcjsuen>    </extension>
[18:01:42] <rcjsuen>    <extension
[18:01:46] <rcjsuen>          point="org.eclipse.ui.views">
[18:01:48] <rcjsuen>       <view
[18:01:50] <rcjsuen>             class="dentistassistant.ui.company.ViewCompany"
[18:01:52] <rcjsuen>             icon="icons/actions/configure.png"
[18:01:54] <rcjsuen>             id="dentistassistant.ui.company.viewCompany"
[18:01:56] <rcjsuen>             name="Firma"
[18:01:58] <rcjsuen>             restorable="true">
[18:02:00] <rcjsuen>       </view>
[18:02:02] <rcjsuen>    </extension>
[18:02:04] <rcjsuen> </plugin>
[18:02:06] <rcjsuen> oh wow
[18:02:08] <rcjsuen> that copy/paste didn't work at all
[18:02:10] <rcjsuen> sorry folks :(
[18:02:12] <rcjsuen> pietia: this line Bundle-Activator: dentistassistant.ui.company.Activator
[18:02:16] <rcjsuen> seems weird that your manifest points at that
[18:02:18] <rcjsuen> but OSGi wants to load something diff
[18:02:20] <rcjsuen> unless the thing is that you have
[18:02:22] <rcjsuen> ActivatorCore
[18:02:25] <rcjsuen>  referenced by Activator
[18:02:57] <pietia> yes, i'm seeing it now
[18:03:00] <pietia> give me a sec
[18:03:53] <pietia> rcjsuen, but i have ActivatorCore.java
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[18:04:54] <rcjsuen> I don't even see Activator.java
[18:04:57] <rcjsuen> in your _first_ paste
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[18:05:42] <pietia> rcjsuen, err
[18:05:52] <pietia> wrong manifest pasted
[18:06:06] <rcjsuen> of course, none of this explains why it worked in 3.4 but not 3.5
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[18:08:10] <pietia> rcjsuen, http://pastie.org/702811
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[18:13:58] <pietia> rcjsuen, any idea?
[18:14:03] <rcjsuen> No
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[18:16:19] <mwolf9> Is there a way i can do a mail to in SWT or do I need to use the AWT Desktop class?
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[18:16:25] <squi> hi
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[18:16:34] <squi> can anyone recommend me how to turn off auto-line wrapping?
[18:17:00] <squi> its getting really annoying when i see perfectly fine lines torn apart where the 2nd line starts exactly where it would have started if it would have been torn apart
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[18:30:24] <squi> see what it does to my innocent code?
[18:30:25] <squi> http://wcell.pastebin.com/m79fee57f
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[18:43:41] <andares> Hey, is there an Eclipse-y way of refactoring a bunch of variables to be in a singleton class?
[18:43:54] <andares> Like, say I have a few variables in class Foo.
[18:44:13] <andares> Then I decide to put them in a class Bar inside foo, and create a private static Bar bar; in Foo.
[18:44:22] <andares> Is there an easy way to get Eclipse to fix all the refs to those variables?
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[18:46:07] <charley> squi: Have you checked the options available in Window -> Preferences -> Java -> Code Style?
[18:46:25] <charley> There may be something in there for line wrapping
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[18:53:51] <squi> thank you sir charley
[18:53:52] <squi>  :)
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[19:11:48] <nitind> andares: Yes, check the Refactor context menu on them to see what's available.
[19:11:59] <andares> hm, okay, thanks.
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[19:14:32] <andares> nitind, if I have a class Foo and class Baz in the same package, and class Foo contains a class Bar, if I want to use Bar from Baz (under the name Bar, not Foo.Bar), I would import Foo.Bar;
[19:14:37] <andares> But it can't resolve Foo. :|
[19:14:50] <andares> It seems to me that this is an eclipse glitch, rather than a Java glitch.
[19:15:50] <nitind> andares: By same package do you mean the default package (no package) or one you've actually declared?
[19:15:56] <andares> A default package.
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[19:18:48] <nitind> Don't use the default package.  It doesn't work for inner classes.
[19:20:50] <rcjsuen> you can't import classes in the default pkg
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[19:32:50] <andares> Ah, thanks.
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[19:40:54] <davockxp> How can I generate PHP code From UML Model in eclipse?? Is there any solution?
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[19:45:20] <pietia> rcjsuen, reseted classpath....
[19:45:28] <pietia> that did a trick
[19:45:34] <pietia> so simple..
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[19:51:12] <xentis> Hi, i have broad new eclipse installation on gentoo i have existin php project and i want to "add it" to this eclipse instance, how can i achieve this?
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[19:54:26] <rcjsuen> pietia: Reset? How did you exactly "reset"?
[19:54:39] <rcjsuen> xentis: make a new php project and point it at that folder i gues
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[20:00:22] <xentis> okay will try
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[20:01:26] <xentis> rcjsuen: this project was used with svn do you think copy-paste might broke it somehow?
[20:02:27] <xentis> i ment to say how to make it work with svn again?
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[20:08:47] <rcjsuen> well you'd need the svn metadata i presume
[20:08:53] <rcjsuen> i'm not familiar with SVN tho
[20:09:01] <rcjsuen> or how its metadata is structured/etc
[20:09:46] <pietia> rcjsuen, sry, "fix classpath"
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[20:10:12] <rcjsuen> pietia: oh that link
[20:10:20] <rcjsuen> pietia: Thank you for sharing your solution with the channel. :)
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[20:41:01] <ummmmd> using galileo on 64bit debian and junit takes several minutes to launch... ?
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[21:27:37] <peper> when i have a zip with contents like http://dpaste.com/121695/ can i easily include the libs and attach their javadocs in eclipse?
[21:27:42] <peper> libs = jars from lib/
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[21:32:59] <zanticus> is there a way to automatically save untitled files when your machine restarts at 3am because of corporate policy?
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[21:44:12] <Wizard> hi!
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[21:47:30] <nitind> ~hi
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[21:51:03] <Wizard> whoa
[21:51:08] <Wizard> help-bot
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[21:51:29] <Wizard> i have linux/ppc and want to build eclipse from source
[21:51:41] <Wizard> do i really need 1.4 1.5 and 1.6 java?
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[21:54:17] <jesmon> having trouble installing plugins
[21:54:39] <jesmon> I keep getting an error about various servers that it's trying failing to respond
[21:54:52] <jesmon> is this common?
[21:55:05] <jesmon> it says download.eclipse.org is failing to respond
[21:55:22] <rcjsuen> Wizard: Doesn't the linux/ppc build work for you?
[21:55:32] <Wizard> does it exist? :P
[21:55:57] <jesmon> btw, this is with eclips 3.5.1 that ships with Fedora 12
[21:56:09] <rcjsuen> Wizard: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5.1-200909170800/index.php
[21:56:42] <Wizard> holly crap :D i'm such dumb :D
[21:58:14] <Wizard> hmm, which of them contains runnable app?
[21:58:17] <Wizard> eclipse sdk?
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[21:59:52] <rcjsuen> yes that is "runnable"
[22:01:26] <Wizard> ok
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[22:21:54] <rFalk> the "terminate" button disappeared. how can i get it back? i already tried resetting perspectives
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[22:23:35] <rhk> ok, so I'm trying to learn to use "egit", and I've created a test project and committed it to git locally. I then connected to my server using ssh, created a directory for a git repo, use git init to initialize it, then push from egit. that all worked nicely.
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[22:24:12] <rhk> had to figure out that I needed to do "git reset --hard" to get the working directory to contain the files I pushed
[22:24:32] <rhk> now, I made some changes on the server, and commited them, and I want to pull them, but it's confusing.
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[22:25:05] <rhk> I don't know what a "Fetch Ref Specification" is
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[22:32:25] <bogard> hello, running eclipse 3.5.1 under debian testing 64bit, jre 6-16-1. having some issues: mouseclicks, especially on finish- or apply-buttons, are ignored totally, enter or hotkey does work tho. also "help/install new.." presents me an invisible list, there are items with desciptions in the textfield below, but no list entry is visible ... sound familiar to anyone?
[22:32:44] <deSilva> known issue
[22:32:54] <deSilva> check the FAQ for a workaround
[22:32:56] <ummmmd> GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
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[22:38:04] <bogard> great, thank you
[22:38:11] <bogard> works like a charm
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[22:48:32] <ummmmd> anyone having time issues with junit4? it takes a looong time to launch tests.
[22:53:40] <deSilva> I get that from time to time yes, since I started using eclipse
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[23:04:20] <ummmmd> mine takes a couple minutes while the same tests run instantly on other computers. any understanding why you encountered the slowdown?
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[23:15:06] <atpa8a> hmm
[23:15:16] <atpa8a> can i add a ruby nature to a java project?
[23:15:32] <rcjsuen> modify the .project file I guess?
[23:16:06] <atpa8a> trying to add a script but eclipse insists i create a ruby project
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[23:19:42] <rcjsuen> atpa8a: make a new project (general), make a ruby project, diff the two, copy/paste stuff to your java project, pray that it works
[23:19:59] <atpa8a> rcjsuen: that worked at least to a point where i can create a run configuration
[23:20:01] <atpa8a> thanks
[23:20:17] <rcjsuen> in the java case there is both .project and .classpath mods
[23:20:21] <rcjsuen> so diffing is important
[23:20:28] <rcjsuen> but i dunno what the ruby plugin does *shrugs*
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[23:22:58] <atpa8a> is the order of builders important?
[23:23:16] <rcjsuen> well
[23:23:22] <rcjsuen> eclipse invokes them in that order
[23:23:29] <rcjsuen> if you don't give a damn about the order then no ;)
[23:23:34] <atpa8a> i see
[23:23:35] <atpa8a> thanks
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[23:26:44] <atpa8a> can't see it output anything...
[23:27:24] <atpa8a> so doesn't the same script in a ruby project
[23:27:55] <rcjsuen> well then
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[23:36:24] <zanticus> is there a way to automatically save untitled files when your machine restarts at 3am because of corporate policy?
[23:36:52] <rcjsuen> why do you have untitled files lying around at 3am anyway
[23:36:54] <zanticus> ie, eclipse closes without the dialog going away
[23:37:23] <zanticus> basically scratch files, lists of things to use elsewhere that I don't really care about after 24 hours...
[23:37:44] <rcjsuen> I guess you're one of those people that leave Eclipse on 24/7.
[23:37:54] <zanticus> indeed
[23:37:56] <rcjsuen> anyway, no, i doubt it, if the process is just killed then we don't get any events
[23:38:15] <zanticus> more like 24/5... but yeah
[23:38:44] <rcjsuen> i'm one of those "shutdown when i leave the office" people myself
[23:38:52] <rcjsuen> i guess in your case you can't do 24/7 since it shuts down at 3am ;)
[23:38:57] <rcjsuen> you'll just have to live with saving a file
[23:39:10] <rcjsuen> or use some other app that  autosaves
[23:39:14] <rcjsuen> maybe Word or whatever
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[23:39:40] <zanticus> um.. was that a serious suggestion.. word?
[23:40:05] <rcjsuen> openoffice, word, any of those auto-saving programs, so yes that was a serious suggestion
[23:40:14] <rcjsuen> i presume there are more lightweight alternatives
[23:40:17] <rcjsuen> i don't know of any tho
[23:40:31] <rcjsuen> i usually just make a txt file in my ~/ and use that
[23:40:41] <rcjsuen> or write a gmail draft email and put stuff in there
[23:40:42] <zanticus> there are scratchpads on the net I have used at other jobs, basically the same thing
[23:41:38] <zanticus> ya, I had a "notepad" on my google homepage that does it, but it is hard if you want the nice search and replace or any other features of eclipse
[23:41:54] <atpa8a> hmm
[23:41:58] <zanticus> it sounds like something a plugin could do easily and well
[23:42:12] <zanticus> I'll look at it later
[23:42:31] <rcjsuen> i guess the plug-in would just auto save every 5 minutes or something, maybe, yes
[23:42:48] <atpa8a> seems like jruby is at fault
[23:43:02] <atpa8a> if i switch to a normal ruby, it all works just fine
[23:43:28] <zanticus> or just save when there is no activity in the file for > 30 seconds
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[23:44:12] <rcjsuen> well, whatever conditions you want to define it is theoretically possible, yes
[23:44:37] <zanticus> the real interaction would be when eclipse opens again
[23:45:24] <zanticus> displaying the list of files and giving the choice to the user... as the workspace state probably wouldn't have been saved...
[23:45:32] <zanticus> hmm, that could be the trigger...
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[23:46:36] <zanticus> thanks for sounding the idea with me rcj, it helped
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[23:48:58] <atpa8a> heh
[23:49:11] <atpa8a> apparently only debug console exists for jruby...
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