[00:00:14] <Infinito> I have had similar problems long ago, don't remember how I got then fixed...
[00:00:27] <Infinito> *them
[00:00:47] <mattt_> maybe if i just wait a few weeks it'll magically fix itself.. just like it magically broke >:E
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[00:30:39] <tolland> hola
[00:31:02] <tolland> control-S has stopped working for save. (using the menu still works) and ideas?
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[00:34:49] <rcjsuen> Did you try restarting?
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[01:49:33] <LV-426> what's the correct way to include a native jar lib in a plugin's class path ? adding an absolute path under Bundle-ClassPath doesn't seem to do the trick...
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[01:54:11] <rcjsuen> Well, I'm not even sure if absolute paths work in OSGi.
[01:54:46] <rcjsuen> SWT uses fragments, you should do likesiwe I would think.
[01:56:09] <LV-426> let me add some context... with Debian as my target platform i'd like to rely on some java .deb libraries instead of bundling all of the necessary jars myself...
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[01:57:21] <rcjsuen> What if your user isn't on Debian? :o
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[02:01:41] <LV-426> i'm making use of jna & some native code - making it truly platform-independent is out of this project's scope...
[02:02:09] <rcjsuen> well, I mean
[02:02:12] <rcjsuen> someone might be on Fedora
[02:02:25] <rcjsuen> unless you mean it's distro-dependent
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[02:04:04] <rcjsuen> Seems like there are some references to external usage of Bundle-ClassPath so I guess it might actually be possible
[02:04:21] <rcjsuen> LV-426: Bundle-ClassPath: external:C:/myInstallDir/foo.jar
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[02:07:34] <LV-426> big thanks rcjsuen... did you find it in the Bundle-ClassPath jdoc ?
[02:07:55] <rcjsuen> No I used my friend called Google.
[02:08:27] <LV-426> more friendly to you i guess :]
[02:08:28] <rcjsuen> I'm not even sure what jdoc is
[02:08:40] <rcjsuen> doc for the OSGi spec?
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[02:09:54] <LV-426> source code javadoc
[02:10:27] <rcjsuen> o i see what you mean
[02:10:37] <rcjsuen> no, I don't even know where that code would be ;)
[02:10:43] <rcjsuen> or what API is used to read those things
[02:11:43] <LV-426> when looking I came up with this: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.osgi/core/framework/org/eclipse/osgi/framework/internal/core/BundleNativeCode.java?view=markup
[02:12:12] <rcjsuen> That is some very helpful doc indeed
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[02:57:16] <apstanto> I'm trying to edit .c files, they are showing up as text only, without any fancy text colors or interactive tools. It's worked fine in the past.  What should I do to get it back
[02:57:33] <rcjsuen> Did you try in a new workspace?
[02:58:32] <apstanto> No. It's an existing project that I imported.  I'll try a new work space.
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[03:04:22] <apstanto> How do I create a new workspace?
[03:04:29] <rcjsuen> File > Switch Workspace
[03:06:25] <apstanto> ok. Tried that.  It still just opens plain text.
[03:06:44] <rcjsuen> Can you still do..."C-like" things like make a new C/C++ project tho?
[03:08:41] <apstanto> hmmm. Apparently not.  I can still open the C/C++ perspective.
[03:10:17] <apstanto> never mind.  It looks as though I can't even open that ( in the new workspace I made).
[03:10:33] <rcjsuen> That would make sense (not possible in the new one).
[03:11:12] <apstanto> I did some updates to the operating system, and maybe I re-install the C/C++ capability?
[03:12:05] <apstanto> maybe I need to re-install the C/C++ capability?
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[03:27:37] <swapper> Hi, All! Help me please.
[03:27:37] <swapper> I install Aptana plugin for Eclipse. And after restarting aptana file transfer plugin stopped working =( I tried to search in the web. nothing...
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[03:48:11] <Leif> Hello, I'm trying to download the android SDK and ADT in eclipse, but I can't get it to download, either from http, or https.
[03:48:35] <Leif> So, I'm thinking that it could be that eclipse is downloading it on a port that is blocked by my firewall
[03:48:56] <Leif> But in the network settings in eclipse, I can't find anything to change, or let alone see what port eclipse uses.
[03:49:08] <Leif> So, can any of you tell me what port eclipse uses?
[03:49:11] <Leif> Thank you.
[03:50:11] <Leif> BTW, I'm using eclipse 3.5, and am on ubuntu 9.10
[03:50:25] <rcjsuen> should just be regular dl i would think
[03:50:28] <rcjsuen> are you getting errors?
[03:52:26] <Leif> yes, give me a moment to paste them
[03:52:29] <Leif> ~pastebin
[03:52:29] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[03:53:32] <Leif> Here it is: http://pastebin.com/m459ecb9f
[03:53:42] <Leif> I get this when I download both from http, and https.
[03:54:25] <rcjsuen> Sounds more like a dependency problem then a downloading problem.
[03:54:41] <Leif> Ah, I see
[03:54:54] <rcjsuen> which build did you download anyway
[03:55:08] <Leif> Well, I followed the instructions here:http://developer.android.com/sdk/eclipse-adt.html
[03:55:35] <Leif> The build of eclipse was the one in the ubuntu repos.
[03:55:43] <Leif> As for the JDK, I think it was 1.6
[03:55:51] <Leif> hmm...but it may have been openjdk...
[03:55:54] <rcjsuen> that's eclipse classic, and is not supported
[03:55:58] <rcjsuen> "Eclipse Classic IDE package is not supported."
[03:56:00] <rcjsuen> according to their website
[03:56:06] <Leif> Oh, okay
[03:56:15] <Leif> So I need to get a different version?  Thanks
[03:56:27] <rcjsuen> http://developer.android.com/sdk/requirements.html
[03:57:08] <Leif> So, I thought the other versions of eclipse were just classis, with other packages installed by default, am I wrong than?
[03:57:36] <rcjsuen> classic is a set configuration of plug-ins
[03:57:39] <rcjsuen> just like any of the other builds
[03:57:40] <rcjsuen> ~compare
[03:57:41] <Arbalest> Wondering what the difference between all those Eclipse packages are or wondering what's included in them? See here - http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/compare-packages
[03:58:57] <Leif> Mm...so I should be good if I get the java ee one?
[03:59:29] <rcjsuen> so their website claims, I cannot say, I dno't do Android dev
[03:59:54] <Leif> Okay, well, thank you!
[04:00:08] <Leif> Let's hope it will work.  15 minutes until the download is complete.
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[04:21:15] <marciofss> Hi. I'm on Snow Leopard. It has java 6 64bits and java 6 32bits. Which Eclipse is faster, Carbon, Cocoa 32 or Cocoa 64 ?
[04:23:44] <marciofss> I know, carbon is only 32 bits.
[04:24:11] <marciofss> help !
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[04:24:37] <rcjsuen> I'm not really convinced there are going to be any speed differences.
[04:24:40] <rcjsuen> Or at least, any noticeable ones.
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[04:28:06] <marciofss> In Leopard the carbon was faster!
[04:28:30] <marciofss> Scroller, maximize ... drag window
[04:29:08] <rcjsuen> Sounds like you already tried one. Why don't you try Cocoa and see?
[04:30:45] <marciofss> I'm downloading version 64 to see
[04:31:36] <Leif> Okay, so it just downloaded, and I'm running the java ee version of eclipse...
[04:31:49] <Leif> but now when I click on the add button to add new software, nothing happens.
[04:32:10] <rcjsuen> Leif: Did you try using the keyboard?
[04:32:38] <Leif> rcjsuen: nope, but that worked
[04:32:40] <Leif> thank you.
[04:32:47] <Leif> Why doesn't just hitting the ok button work?
[04:33:07] <rcjsuen> Leif: By hitting you mean "clicking with the mouse"?
[04:33:37] <Leif> rcjsuen: yes
[04:33:49] <rcjsuen> Leif: See FAQ in topic.
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[04:34:51] <Leif> ~faq
[04:34:51] <Arbalest> Please see the FAQs http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs
[04:35:57] <Leif> So, no libraries are comming up after I pressed enter.
[04:36:25] <rcjsuen> Leif: You mean the "tree" is blank?
[04:36:41] <Leif> rcjsuen: I belive so
[04:36:47] <rcjsuen> Try resizing the window.
[04:37:02] <Leif> On the version of eclipse that is in the ubuntu repos, I got two libraries that showed up
[04:37:34] <Leif> Okay, I got a no repositories found, thank you.
[04:38:18] <Leif> yes, it worked, I got it downloaded and installed, again, thank you rcjsuen
[04:40:59] <marciofss> Flex Builder ... it is running well on my machine. Is it cabon ou cocoa ?
[04:41:20] <rcjsuen> marciofss: Help > About, is there a version number?
[04:41:30] <rcjsuen> or rather
[04:41:35] <rcjsuen> do you know which version of Eclipse it was built on?
[04:43:03] <marciofss> No.
[04:43:30] <rcjsuen> well you could always just ls in the plugins/ folder and grep for swt i guess
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[04:49:20] <marciofss> I think it is Carbon.
[04:50:02] <marciofss> I saw it: System properties:
[04:50:02] <marciofss> awt.nativeDoubleBuffering=true
[04:50:02] <marciofss> awt.toolkit=apple.awt.CToolkit
[04:50:03] <marciofss> eclipse.commands=-os
[04:50:03] <marciofss> macosx
[04:50:04] <marciofss> carbon
[04:50:08] <marciofss> x86
[04:50:50] <marciofss> but, carbon is only 32 bits ?
[04:53:23] <marciofss> it is running fine on Java 6 64bits !
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[04:57:45] <RenatoSilva> how to delete old profiles?
[04:57:51] <RenatoSilva> they are boring
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[05:09:34] <slurpee> anyone care to help me? i am having problems setting up phpeclipse
[05:09:52] <slurpee> just grabbed fresh and I can add the URL
[05:09:56] <slurpee> but I can't click "next"
[05:10:07] <slurpee> help -> install software
[05:10:54] <RenatoSilva> check any error/warning in the top, maybe a field is missing
[05:11:11] <RenatoSilva> give screenshots
[05:12:43] <slurpee> http://lechleider.com/photos/phpeclipse.png
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[05:16:15] <RenatoSilva> let me try here
[05:16:59] <RenatoSilva> where did you read that that's the right URL?
[05:17:49] <RenatoSilva> worked for me, software is listed
[05:19:59] <slurpee> i was reading a tutorial which told me to have eclipse in /opt
[05:20:08] <slurpee> trying normal way without /opt..
[05:20:27] <RenatoSilva> that URL worked for me
[05:20:41] <RenatoSilva> why don't you use Eclipse PDT?
[05:22:23] <slurpee> odd
[05:22:29] <slurpee> it is working installed normally
[05:22:31] <slurpee> o well
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[05:28:25] <RenatoSilva> what?
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[07:15:05] <adatta02> hey can someone point me to a good walkthrough of using the Eclipse AST to generate Java source? I cant seem to include the right JARs - keep getting class not found errors
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[07:25:03] <nitind> adatta02: http://www.eclipse.org/articles/article.php?file=Article-JavaCodeManipulation_AST/index.html
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[07:32:04] <adatta02> nitind, awesome. thanks. I might actually give https://codemodel.dev.java.net/ a whirl since the API looks a ton simpler than AST
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[09:21:03] <ezra_> i hav a problem adding cfeclipse my ide
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[09:54:09] <ezra_> anyone there?
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[10:43:50] <ghostknife> I am getting the following error when using the BIRT runtime: org.eclipse.birt.report.engine.api.impl.ParameterValidationException: The type of parameter is expected as "string", not "[Ljava.lang.String;".
[10:43:59] <ghostknife> What is that supposed to mean? What is type "string" ??
[10:44:44] <ghostknife> BIRT's source code is not on codesearch so I couldn't check what it's actually expecting
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[10:50:12] <kensanata> What would you expect a tutorial for a plugin to be written in -- docbook? Most of my experience is with Emacs, so personally I'd use texinfo, which might no longer be state of the art, if it ever was. ;)
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[10:57:31] <ghostknife> wtf do I get javadoc for eclipse projects?
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[11:19:46] <paulweb515_> ghostknife: http://help.eclipse.org/
[11:20:41] <paulweb515_> ghostknife: and you're error says something is passing in String[]
[11:26:53] <Nurbs> I would like to draw some UML diagrams in Eclipse (at least class, object, use-case and sequence, but preferably more). UML2 Tools look very unusable to me (I can't even get them to display a message name in a sequence diagram).  Are there any decent free tools doing that?
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[11:30:01] <Nurbs> $ 3,950 for a EclipseUML Studio license would be fine, too.
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[11:42:25] <ghostknife> so [L is an array? java.lang.ClassCastException: [Ljava.lang.String; cannot be cast to java.lang.String
[11:42:49] <ghostknife> Oh yeah of course
[11:43:04] <ghostknife> Lpackage.Object; is the name for an object. I forgot the [ means array :/
[11:43:07] <ghostknife> That's weird though
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[11:44:49] * ghostknife is halfway up the wall already :/
[11:45:06] <ghostknife> I didn't know Lamp=A& as a GET parameter would result in an array
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[11:47:44] <xQuasar> Does anyone around here use EasyEclipse?
[11:47:47] <ghostknife> I guess I should have not assumed :/ servlet getParameterMap() works a bit different than getParameter()
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[11:51:03] <ghostknife> This isn't a mockery, but how is eclipse not easy?
[11:51:29] <ghostknife> Oh, it's just a bunch of purpose centric distributions
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[12:09:27] <ghostknife> paulweb515_: thanks for the hint. My BIRT embed is now working :>
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[12:50:35] <dcorbin_work> Getting a really wierd problem with Eclipse.  I cannot use my mouse to activate the default button in a dialog.  Works OK on other push buttons.  Works OK using the keyboard. Searching for ideas that fall short of reinstalling.
[12:52:21] <Odin_> are you a linux user?
[12:52:27] <dcorbin_work> Odin_: I am.
[12:52:39] <Odin_> are you using a new'ish version of gtk+ ?
[12:52:48] <Odin_> "rpm -q gtk+"
[12:52:56] <dcorbin_work> probably.
[12:53:34] <dcorbin_work> debian based
[12:53:50] <Odin_> well work out what version of gtk+ you've got wil ya
[12:54:01] <dcorbin_work> I'm working on it.
[12:54:46] <dcorbin_work> It looks like 2.10, to me
[12:55:35] <Odin_> are you 64bit ? or 32bit ?
[12:55:47] <Odin_> uname -m
[12:56:19] <dcorbin_work> That says  "i686".  I think I'm 32 bit
[12:56:35] <Odin_> ls -l /usr/lib/libgtk-x11*
[12:56:54] <dcorbin_work> but only because I've made no concious decision to go with 64-bit
[12:57:23] <Odin_> 64bit would say "x86_64"
[12:57:23] <dcorbin_work> libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1800.3
[12:58:07] <Odin_> you have 1.18.3
[12:58:26] <dcorbin_work> which is old, or new?
[12:58:47] <Odin_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/442078
[12:59:13] <Odin_> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=291257
[12:59:23] <Odin_> thats pretty new, new enough for this problem
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[13:03:00] <dcorbin_work> Odin_: Great!  many thanks.
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[13:45:56] <BernardMarx> How do I get absolute path of a plug-in that uses my extension point? I tried going through extension.getNamespaceIdentifier() and then through Platform.getPlugin() but that is deprecated. How is the "correct" way of doing this now?
[13:46:30] <rcjsuen> What purpose would this serve
[13:46:47] <rcjsuen> Getting the path to a jar doesn't sound very exciting.
[13:47:07] <BernardMarx> I need to get the path of a Prolog file, inorder for me to load it :D
[13:47:43] <BernardMarx> I have declared the attribute type in my extension point as resource, too bad that I only get a relative file path. I kinda expected an absolute path
[13:48:09] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: you can get an InputStream from a plugin but an absolute path to a file is much harder
[13:48:26] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: can you use the InputStream?
[13:48:34] <rcjsuen> They're usually bundled, as hinted above, in a jar. Getting the absolute path would not be very fun unless you feel like creating ZipInputStreams and parsing ZipEntry objects.
[13:49:35] <BernardMarx> Well the plug-ins can not be .zip when released. That simply wouldn't work.
[13:49:39] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: from the ID you can use org.eclipse.core.runtime.Platform.getBundle(String) to get the Bundle
[13:49:47] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: all plugins are zipped when released
[13:49:58] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: only old legacy plugins look like a directory
[13:49:59] <BernardMarx> No there is an option to not zip it
[13:50:14] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: that's there for old legacy plugins that aren't written correctly
[13:50:51] <BernardMarx> paulweb515: hmm.. unfortunately our plug-in currently depends on it, because we have a Prolog back-end that doesn't work well with zipped things.
[13:50:56] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: to get a file from a plugin, simply use org.eclipse.core.runtime.Platform.getBundle(String) to get the Bundle and then org.osgi.framework.Bundle.getEntry(String) to get the URL
[13:51:10] <rcjsuen> FileLocator can help too, ~dev-faq
[13:51:11] <Arbalest> Writing Eclipse plug-ins / RCP apps and don't know where to turn? See these FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/RCP_FAQ / Or look at EclipseCon talks/tutorials - http://www.eclipsecon.org/
[13:51:19] <BernardMarx> Ofcourse we could work around it but it would be a huge pain.
[13:51:24] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: Nothing wrong with not being able to handle zipped things
[13:51:26] <BernardMarx> Thx paulweb! that's what I need.
[13:51:40] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: But a Java library that cannot handle InputStreams ... well, that's just busted
[13:51:58] <BernardMarx> paulweb515: I am not sure what you mean by InputStreams..
[13:52:05] <rcjsuen> BernardMarx: java.io.InputStream?
[13:52:06] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: can your prolog library handle InputStreams?
[13:52:09] <rcjsuen> I presume you are familiar with that class.
[13:52:24] <BernardMarx> Ah now I see what you mean.
[13:52:34] <BernardMarx> The Prolog library cannot handle anything.
[13:52:53] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: huh?  Then how do you get information into it?
[13:52:55] <BernardMarx> :) it is very specific but I am working on cleaning things up.
[13:53:07] <BernardMarx> paulweb515: socket connection. Don't ask.
[13:53:08] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: I guess it takes all java.io.File inputs :)
[13:53:08] <paulweb515> It can't even take java.io.File?
[13:53:24] <rcjsuen> wouldn't socket take regular java IO then I would think
[13:53:47] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: there are even ways to write non-compliant socket implementations :-)
[13:54:02] <rcjsuen> Sounds like a art I should familiarize myself with.
[13:54:05] <BernardMarx> As I have said there I big part of "black magic" happening and I am just scratching the surface
[13:54:06] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: but yes, by default sockets return an InputStream
[13:57:13] <paulweb515> BernardMarx: as Remy said, after you use getEntry(*) to get your URL, you can use FileLocator and that will give you a useful java.io.File absolute path
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[13:57:29] <BernardMarx> Yup just doing that. Thank you guys!
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[14:11:37] <tom17bombadil> is there no way to customize (color/bg-color) of swt-buttons on windows?
[14:11:45] <rcjsuen> that's an OS thing, no
[14:12:01] <rcjsuen> I guess if you used a GC and drew on it maybe
[14:12:07] <rcjsuen> but that might draw on top of the tex
[14:13:42] <tom17bombadil> rcjsuen, GC? Canvas?
[14:13:57] <rcjsuen> yes, the GC graphics class
[14:14:08] <paulweb515> tom17bombadil: Graphics Context
[14:15:16] <tom17bombadil> is there other habits of how to draw attention to certain buttons? other than coloring the buttons?
[14:15:47] <rcjsuen> hard to say, this would have to be a case-by-case basis
[14:16:02] <rcjsuen> I've never really wanted to draw the user's attention to a particular button in my UIs anyway.
[14:17:57] <tom17bombadil> Thank you! I will start reading about Graphics Context...
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[14:19:01] <ecfuser94262> hi guys
[14:19:03] <ecfuser94262> !
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[14:21:48] <ecfuser94262> I'm trying the Eclipse Commiunication Framework but I can't find the option in menu to share my editor
[14:22:09] <ecfuser94262> I'm referring to doc share plugin
[14:22:11] <rcjsuen> ecfuser94262: Are both you and your friend online?
[14:22:34] <ecfuser94262> yes this is my first run
[14:24:06] <rcjsuen> ecfuser94262: Are you able to chat with that person within Eclipse?
[14:24:41] <ecfuser94262> yeah
[14:25:37] <rcjsuen> What kind of file did you open
[14:25:38] <ecfuser94262> well maybe I've found what I nedd
[14:26:13] <ecfuser94262> rcjsuen: I have opened a simple java file
[14:26:27] <rcjsuen> It should work if you right-click on the Java editor I would think.
[14:27:33] <ecfuser94262> rcjsuen: maybe with "synchronize with -> my gmail account -> contact is right?
[14:27:42] <rcjsuen> That's not sharing your editor.
[14:27:52] <rcjsuen> That should just show diffs between your code and his.
[14:27:54] <rcjsuen> (or her)
[14:29:23] <ecfuser94262> if i make a right click I can't find "share editor with" as documented here http://wiki.eclipse.org/DocShare_Plugin
[14:29:54] <rcjsuen> Dunno then
[14:30:00] <rcjsuen> Seems weird that synchronize with works
[14:30:01] <rcjsuen> but not docshare
[14:30:06] <rcjsuen> maybe the plug-in is not beign picked up i guess
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[14:33:19] <ecfuser94262> :( i have installed ECF taking this repository http://download.eclipse.org/rt/ecf/3.1/3.5/repo
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[14:37:19] <rcjsuen> What if you try a regular text file?
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[14:45:29] <ecfuser94262> rcjsuen: nothing
[14:45:35] <rcjsuen> Dunno then.
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[14:54:59] <ecfuser94262> rcjsuen: this fact is puzzling me because I have installed ecf 3.1 and if i look here http://www.eclipse.org/ecf/org.eclipse.ecf.docs/api/overview-summary.html docshare plugin is included in ecf
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[15:04:59] <bushwakko> I'm seeing weird stuff here, I'm using the restlet api, and an restlet impl in equinox
[15:05:24] <bushwakko> now the api doesn't include the impl's package, but it's new Component() constructor looks for it on the classpath, and obviously doesn't find it
[15:05:26] <bushwakko> now the weird part, if I do this: MessageStoreApplication.class.getClassLoader().loadClass("com.noelios.restlet.Engine"); from the 3rd bundle which includes it, and then later start the new Component() from that bundle it, new Component() finds the implementation!
[15:05:39] <bushwakko> I would never have thought of trying this, but a co-worker with less osgi knowledge than me was just debugging as to why the restlet api bundle wouldn't find the implementation. Though to me this is obvious, since osgi just doesn't support this package. now how does this even work?!
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[15:23:38] <pharell> hi to all
[15:23:56] <pharell> can somebody help me with compare option in eclipse?
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[15:24:01] <pharell> when i compare two files
[15:24:09] <pharell> and they are different
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[15:24:23] <pharell> i get a two side panel editor
[15:24:30] <rcjsuen> Yes that sounds about right.
[15:24:33] <pharell> but no syntax highlight
[15:24:43] <pharell> why is it happening?
[15:25:02] <pharell> i've been playing with the syntax highlight for php, js, html
[15:25:04] <rcjsuen> You should at least get partial syntax highlighting
[15:25:13] <rcjsuen> semi works for Java files anyway
[15:25:14] <pharell> but this has dafult options
[15:25:32] <pharell> i'm comparing html files at the moment
[15:25:38] <toll_232123> hola
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[15:27:30] <tolland> how do I get eclipse to show me my servlet code when debugging a web app?
[15:27:34] <gooofy> hi - are there eclipse AIX/power 64 bit builds available anywhere? any plans in that direction?
[15:27:51] <tolland> at the moment I get the error that it can't find the source
[15:28:17] <tolland> do I need to point to some working directory that tomcat uses to convert the jsp to java?
[15:28:35] <rcjsuen> gooofy: I don't think I heard anything. You'd have to file an enhancement request maybe.
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[15:34:22] <pharell> rcjsuen can you give me a tip
[15:34:26] <pharell> about my problem&
[15:34:30] <pharell> ?
[15:35:07] <nitind> tolland: It's not able to find the JSP source, or you're trying to see the actual Servlet's source?
[15:35:17] <rcjsuen> dunno i don't really work with php/js/html
[15:35:40] <tolland> its not finding the jsp converted into a servlet source
[15:35:44] <pharell> rcjsuen you mean it's depends on the language?
[15:35:56] <tolland> ie can't find "question_jsp.java"
[15:36:03] <tolland> for my question.jsp page
[15:36:04] <pharell> it's ins't comparing any text?
[15:36:07] <rcjsuen> well i mean, i only compare java files, it works for me, if php/js/html doesn't work for you, i don't know what to tell you
[15:36:10] <tolland> I have found it in the file system
[15:36:26] <nitind> pharell: If you're using WTP or the Eclipse IDE for Java EE, it's just not implemented.  PDT has introduced it for PHP very recently, but I don't think it's in Galileo.
[15:37:20] <nitind> tolland: Is it looking for the .java?  Are you wanting the .java instead of the .jsp?
[15:38:05] <tolland> nitind: when I debug if there is an error in the .java file, it can't find it to show it in the step debug
[15:38:55] <tolland> that is, if there is an error in the jsp page, for it to be useful it has to show me the link in the java file
[15:39:07] <nitind> tolland: The location of the .java file is an internal detail of Tomcat.  Check the work folder in the filesystem under workspace/.metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.wst.server.core/*
[15:39:17] <nitind> tolland: What error?
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[15:39:55] <tolland> ok, i will look there
[15:40:07] <tolland> i have the file, so I can open it in vi and look at the line with the error
[15:40:24] <tolland> but it would be better to have eclispe open the file and show me the error line
[15:40:48] <tolland> I'm sure it used to do that when I did a project with jsp and eclipse some years back
[15:40:50] <nitind> tolland: Try the context menu for the stack frame where the error happens.  It should let you choose between the JSP and Java source.
[15:41:04] <tolland> ok
[15:41:08] <nitind> tolland: It might require a Dynamic Web Project and launching Tomcat from the Servers view.
[15:41:09] <tolland> will look there
[15:41:15] <tolland> thats what I am using
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[15:44:56] <Kudd_> is it possible to disable the effect when you do ctrl+m?
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[15:45:22] <Kudd_> found
[15:45:24] <Kudd_> :)
[15:45:26] <Kudd_> cheers
[15:45:38] <rcjsuen> Yeah, turned that off once I realized I could ;p
[15:45:45] <rcjsuen> four or five less rectangles to draw ;p
[15:46:23] <Kudd_> animations are useless
[15:46:38] <Kudd_> it makes eclipse slower
[15:47:56] <Kudd_> I'd like to if you know a good plugin to improve tabs?
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[15:48:09] <Kudd_> know*
[15:48:11] <rcjsuen> not me anyway
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[15:59:39] <gooofy> rcjsuen: thanks - can you point me to where i'd best file the request? i tried filing a bug in the eclipse bug tracker, but selecting os version "other" got me a "invalid os/version" error message from bugzilla. should i post on the forum instead?
[16:00:13] <rcjsuen> gooofy: no don't think forums is a good idea
[16:00:30] <rcjsuen> just file to Eclipse / Platform / Releng
[16:00:32] <rcjsuen> Other / other
[16:00:35] <rcjsuen> or if not just pick all / all
[16:00:37] <rcjsuen> not really a big deal
[16:01:47] <atpa8a> hmm
[16:01:55] <gooofy> rcjsuen: thanks, will try :)
[16:02:19] <atpa8a> running an sql query hangs eclips... not sure i can get enough diag info to file a bug...
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[16:07:40] <gooofy> rcjsuen: selecting all/all did the trick. thanks again.
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[16:18:44] <pharell> who is using eclipse on winnt?
[16:19:03] <pharell> windows xp as beign exactly
[16:19:10] <pharell> being*
[16:19:12] <nitind> taking a poll?
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[16:20:42] <pharell> nitind what?!
[16:21:12] <rcjsuen> pharell: You asked "who is using Eclipse on XP", that is a poll-like question
[16:21:23] <pharell> ha
[16:21:27] <pharell> the same
[16:21:31] <pharell> comparing feature
[16:21:44] <pharell> and non-highlighted text in result
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[16:23:40] <pharell> does somebody knows the reason?
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[16:24:07] <rcjsuen> <nitind> pharell: If you're using WTP or the Eclipse IDE for Java EE, it's just not implemented.  PDT has introduced it for PHP very recently, but I don't think it's in Galileo.
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[16:24:47] <pharell> rcjsuen i'm using zend studio 7
[16:24:52] <nitind> This would be, I think, for the feature.xml.  But I suspect the same reason applies: no one's implemented it yet.
[16:24:54] <pharell> based on eclipse
[16:25:10] <rcjsuen> Then you should talk to the Zend team. Maybe it is (not) implemented, we don't know.
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[16:25:38] <jamescarr> what is the best way to get an embedded tomcat installed in eclipse?
[16:25:44] <pharell> rcjsuen so it's can be only i pdt?
[16:25:50] <jamescarr> the way I do it, I have to install eclipse manually
[16:25:51] <nitind> For PHP files.
[16:26:03] <jamescarr> yet I've seen people have a "start tomcat" icon on their toolbar in eclipse
[16:26:11] <[diablo]> good afternoon all, is anyone using the RSE plugin please?
[16:26:15] <nitind> jamescarr: What do you mean by embedded?
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[16:27:34] <jamescarr> so I can just click on a j2ee app and "Run on Server"
[16:29:27] <nitind> jamescarr: 1) get it from apache.org 2) set it up on the Installed Servers preference page.  http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Tomcat_FAQ might answer other questions you have.
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[16:29:41] <jamescarr> sigh
[16:29:51] <jamescarr> that was what I already knew
[16:29:54] <jamescarr> thanks anyway :)
[16:30:14] <nitind> jamescarr: Then what's not happening that should be?
[16:30:21] <rcjsuen> I think the Tomcat icon is from the Sysdeo plug-in.
[16:30:26] <rcjsuen> I used that...back in 2006.
[16:30:32] <jamescarr> rcjsuen, ah...
[16:30:34] <nitind> It definitely is, but "Run on Server" is WTP.
[16:31:08] <rcjsuen> Don't ask me what I use now, I don't write JIRA plug-ins anymore. ;)
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[16:36:10] <jamescarr> stupid me
[16:36:21] <jamescarr> I thought WTP was included by default in the distribution
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[16:38:17] <rcjsuen> Distribution?
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[16:39:31] <jamescarr> the distribution I downloaded. Nevermind, just installed it :)
[16:39:46] <jamescarr> apparently, WTP isn't always included just because the J2EE perspective is :)
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[16:41:26] <vick> Hello, i created a JAVA RMI Project using eclipse. However no .project file has been generated, only the class files and so. Is this something i need to specify explicitly ?
[16:42:22] <jamescarr> RMI? Thats still around?
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[16:43:11] <vick> haha is that obsolete ? :)
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[16:43:25] <vick> I sure hope it is not, otherwise they are teaching me crap at the university.
[16:43:27] <rcjsuen> if you make a project in Eclipse it should generate a .project file
[16:44:00] <rcjsuen> I don't know what a "java rmi project" is tho, maybe that's contributed by a plug-in.
[16:44:18] <magnet> is anyone is familiar with Equinox+Declarative Services? I have a service that is instanciated according to equinox' console but another service that has it as a reference cannot resolve it. Any idea? (it's a pain to debug)
[16:44:22] <jamescarr> vick: maybe not obsolete, but typically other solutions are selected rather than RMI :)
[16:45:29] <jamescarr> nitind, hmmm... how can I make a project in my workspace allow me to add it to my tomcat Server in j2ee perspective? It's an existing project, so i cant just "new .. dynamic web project"
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[16:48:33] <tsdh> Hi.  Does anyone know if there's a PDF version of the Ecore class diagram?  Or an ecore model of ecore itself?  The gif version in the EMF JavaDocs look very bad when included in a TeX document...
[16:49:01] <jamescarr> I understand I will probably be told to RTFM, but I cant find any info on publishing an existing project
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[16:54:41] <jamescarr> hello?
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[16:56:05] <jamescarr> :(
[16:56:08] <hot33331> i have a plugin and in this plugin i use class.forname() the class that i want to get is in a library jar on the classpath in that plugin. the problem is that the method gets called by the birt classloader and it does not know my class that i want from class.forname(). any ideas?
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[16:57:58] <rhk> can you pre-load the class in your plugin, then provide an instance from there?
[16:58:07] <philk_> do SWT tables support secondary sort columns?
[16:58:17] <vick> jamescarr, Would you know how it would be possible to make an RMI call 'at-least-once' rather than 'at-most-once' ?
[16:58:17] <paulweb515> tsdh: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.emf/org.eclipse.emf/plugins/org.eclipse.emf.ecore/model/?root=Modeling_Project
[16:59:09] <paulweb515> hot33331: if you are writing a plugin you should never use Class.forName(*) ... it doesn't work reliably
[16:59:18] <tsdh> paulweb515: Perfect.  Thanks a lot.
[16:59:23] <paulweb515> hot33331: are you trying to load a java library as a plugin?
[16:59:54] <hot33331> paulweb515 no
[17:00:14] <jamescarr> vick, not fair. you didn't answer my question first :)
[17:00:25] <paulweb515> hot33331: then use Activator.getDefault().getBundle().loadClass("your.class.in.your.library")
[17:00:29] <jamescarr> how can I enable WTP on an existing project configured as a war in maven?
[17:01:43] <vick> jamescarr, Which one was that "hmmm... how can I make a project in my workspace allow me to add it to my tomcat Server in j2ee perspective? It's an existing project, so i cant just "new .. dynamic web project"" ?
[17:02:03] <jamescarr> yeah
[17:02:36] <jamescarr> If there's no goo way, I'll just create a dynamic web project and copy the project properties
[17:03:05] <vick> jamescarr, I have no idea, i just installed eclipse.
[17:03:28] <jamescarr> vick, lol... sorry, wrong person
[17:03:38] <jamescarr> I meant to ask nitind
[17:03:45] <hot33331> paulweb515: still getting the class not found exception
[17:04:08] <paulweb515> hot33331: what does your MANIFEST.MF look like?  ~pastebin
[17:04:08] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[17:04:31] <paulweb515> hot33331: was it your code that's calling Class.forName(*) or Birt code?
[17:05:51] <hot33331> paulweb515 : my bad - didnt give the full name - just the classname not paht.to.class
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[17:12:20] <jamescarr> nobody knows
[17:12:49] <paulweb515> hot33331: ah, OK
[17:13:05] <rhk> so, how long until there is a google go plugin for eclipse :)
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[17:22:08] <tom17bombadil> Is there a modify-service? Or is it suggested to use some static model plus eclipse-data-binding?
[17:22:35] <rcjsuen> wouldn't a modify service just be databinding?
[17:24:45] <jamescarr> ARGH!!!!!
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[17:26:17] <tom17bombadil> rcjsuen, hm...to syncronize two widgets (and not ui <> model) I thougt, there might be an already implemented thing, like commandservice or contextservice
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[17:38:24] <erdal> tom17bombadil: i know that xwt has support for that kind of stuff
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[17:38:45] <ilyak> hi *
[17:39:02] <ilyak> I remember it was possible to do "add level of indentation"/"remove level of indentation"
[17:39:12] <ilyak> and even bind it to hotkeys
[17:39:24] <ilyak> But I can't find them in preferences Global -> Keys
[17:39:36] <ilyak> Any clues on where they are?
[17:39:44] <erdal> ilyak, just select lines and use tab
[17:39:53] <erdal> if you are talking about java sources
[17:39:58] <Kudd> Did you already have this message: "An internal error occurred during: "Selection Job titile"."
[17:40:02] <Kudd> seems to be on PDT
[17:40:14] <jamescarr> Seriously!
[17:40:25] <jamescarr> There must be someway to enable WTP for an existing project!?
[17:41:35] <ilyak> erdal: Yes, that does add a level of indentation
[17:41:40] <ilyak> but how would I remove one?
[17:41:46] <erdal> shift+tab
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[17:43:10] <ilyak> Cool
[17:43:29] <ilyak> Can I also bind those actions on other keys?
[17:43:38] <ilyak> I like Ctrl+Left and Ctrl-Right
[17:44:22] <erdal> i guess, you would use the "Indent Line" command
[17:44:28] <erdal> see keys in prefs
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[17:45:49] <ilyak> Nope, it doesn't do that
[17:45:57] <ilyak> It just indents it according to its rules
[17:46:00] <ilyak> and I want control
[17:46:22] <erdal> you can reassign a key
[17:48:51] <ilyak> I remembed going that
[17:49:03] <ilyak> I guess I should just look on the machine where I did that
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[17:49:24] <rcjsuen> Kudd: I think that bug is mentioned in the pdt faq on the wiki.
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[17:50:09] <ilyak> Also, is there a way to search text in one file and highligh all occurences?
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[17:50:33] <Kudd> yeah i'm reading it rcjsuen
[17:50:42] <Kudd> but don't succeed to install new dlt
[17:50:49] <Kudd> http://download.eclipse.org/technology/dltk/downloads/
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[17:55:06] <Kudd> apparently i'm already updated
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[17:56:47] <jamescarr> when I run tomcat from eclipse, wtf is the working directory!?
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[17:58:32] <rcjsuen> the launch config should show that i would think
[17:58:38] <rcjsuen> at least, it does for Java app launch configs
[17:58:40] <rcjsuen> and stuff like that
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[18:02:54] <jamescarr> I gave up... there doesnt appear to be an easy way to just frigigng enable WTP on existing project
[18:03:06] <jamescarr> so I just created a new one and copied my sources over
[18:03:09] <jamescarr> SHEESH!!!
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[18:04:08] <torarne> Q: I'm seeing drawing errors in syntax higlighted editors after upgrading to OSX 10.6.2 (which removed Java 1.5), is this a known issue?
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[18:07:03] <dilton> jamescarr that's usually the best way IMO
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[18:11:29] <jamescarr> god... I get a bunch of classnotfoundexceptions whenevr I try to even touch tomcat
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[18:12:59] <jamescarr> any idea how to configure my maven stuff to "just work" with eclipse WTP?
[18:13:13] <jamescarr> I mean, like put all the resolved jars in WEB-INF/lib and stuff
[18:13:24] <jamescarr> so people don't have to rely on custom configurations
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[18:16:44] <philk_> how do I create a PreferenceStore for FieldEditorPreferencePage when I do not have my Bundle implement AbstractUIPlugin?
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[18:19:34] <sharperguy> Does eclipse usually take a long time to start the first time?
[18:19:43] <magnet> yes
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[18:19:48] <sharperguy> ah ok
[18:20:29] <rcjsuen> sharperguy: Depends on your definition of "long" I guess. And of course, hardware specs and plug-in count and other such variables.
[18:21:03] <sharperguy> Actually it's ok now. It was taking too long before so I've tried reinstalling and stuff. Seems to be working now.
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[18:25:38] <jamescarr> god!
[18:25:55] <jamescarr> anyone have any clue how to just make maven2 resolved jars show up in WEB-INF/lib?
[18:25:58] <jamescarr> PLEASE!?!?!?!?
[18:27:39] <jamescarr> nevermind :)
[18:30:31] <marciofss> As Eclipse(carbon) is running on my machine (Snow Leopard / Java 6 - 64bits) ?
[18:32:09] <rcjsuen> marciofss: That doesn't sound like a question.
[18:32:41] <marciofss> rcjsuen: oh. sorry. english is not my first language !
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[18:33:55] <marciofss> rcjsuen:  but, my Eclipse (carbon) is running on Snow Leopard with Java 6 64bits!
[18:34:00] <marciofss> rcjsuen: How ?
[18:34:26] <marciofss> rcjsuen: Is carbon only 32 bits ?
[18:34:36] <rcjsuen> probably means it's using a 32-bit Java installation on your computer
[18:37:29] <marciofss> rcjsuen: oh. yes. yes. I saw it in this command line: -d32
[18:37:36] <marciofss> rcjsuen: thanks!
[18:39:17] <zacktu> I have a set of source files that i have given the tag ver-1-1.  I made a false start and then went back to ver-1-1.   I want to add a new file to that set of source files, but CVS says I can't add to non-branching tag ver-1-1.   Guess I'm confused about where I am.  What to do now?
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[19:10:42] <nitind> jamescarr: Found the maven support plug-in for WTP, did you?
[19:10:53] <jamescarr> yeah
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[19:13:54] <philk_> there is no FieldEditor that provides a table, is there?
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[19:14:43] <jamescarr> nitind, it can be frustrating at first
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[19:15:19] <martyn-home> Hi every1 :D
[19:16:28] <martyn-home> I need to install wtp plataform. i've downloaded wtp-R-3.1.1....zip, but i dont know how to install that on my eclipse 3.5
[19:16:41] <martyn-home> CAn you please help me with it ?
[19:16:42] <martyn-home> :D
[19:17:45] <nitind> martyn-home: It's better to use the built-in software update mechanism, or just start with a Galileo package that has one.  Matching versions and fulfilling dependencies can be troublesome otherwise.
[19:18:19] <nitind> jamescarr: http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Tomcat_FAQ#How_do_I_find_the_location_of_the_conf.2C_logs.2C_temp.2C_webapps.2C_and_work_directories_for_my_Tomcat_server.3F
[19:18:36] <jamescarr> oh, I got it working
[19:18:48] <martyn-home> nitind: uhm i se.. so, now i'm downloading eclipse-jee-galileo-win32.zip , i dont know if that .zip contain that biut-in ..
[19:18:53] <jamescarr> it was just a lot of nonsense... adding WTP support to an existing project proved to be nigh impossible
[19:18:58] <jamescarr> thanks though
[19:19:09] <nitind> martyn-home: It does.
[19:19:12] <rcjsuen> ~tell martyn-home about compare
[19:19:13] <Arbalest> martyn-home: Wondering what the difference between all those Eclipse packages are or wondering what's included in them? See here - http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/compare-packages
[19:19:17] <nitind> jamescarr: Not something I have control over, unfortunately.
[19:19:19] <rcjsuen> Though I gues that table doesn't explicitly say "WTP".
[19:19:32] <martyn-home> let me see Arbalest
[19:19:43] <nitind> well, that's like having a row for "Tools", "Technology", and "Eclipse".
[19:19:49] <jamescarr> nitind, understood... I just created a new project with WTP and moved all the stuff into it
[19:20:14] <martyn-home> ohhh i se. so eclipse-jee contain that :D thank you Arbalest, so i'm going to wait the file downloading :)
[19:20:25] <martyn-home> thank you. Arbalest nitind
[19:20:26] <martyn-home> ;)
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[19:21:38] <jamescarr> how can I turn off schema validation?
[19:21:40] <jamescarr> :(
[19:22:18] <philk_> are there any tutorials on how to use the ECF?
[19:23:32] <nitind> jamescarr: Validation of the schemas themselves, or for files using them?
[19:24:10] <jamescarr> schema validation itself... this project has about 500 schemas in it and eclipse tries to constantly validate them
[19:24:18] <jamescarr> it's really putting some lag on my shoulders
[19:25:46] <rcjsuen> well it says 'Web Tools' now i see anyway
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[19:25:52] <jamescarr> I tried disabling them under properties->validation
[19:25:56] <jamescarr> it still complains
[19:26:02] <rcjsuen> philk_: scattered places on the wiki in disparate locations
[19:26:08] <rcjsuen> what do you wanna use it for exactly
[19:26:17] <nitind> jamescarr: Did it prompt you to revalidate?  Or did you clean and rebuild/revalidate manually?
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[19:27:52] <jamescarr> it complains when I clean and rebuild
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[19:27:59] <jamescarr> it didnt prompt, it just validated them again
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[19:28:29] <nitind> jamescarr: And you still had messages in the schema files?
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[19:28:42] <jamescarr> nvm... I got rid of it
[19:28:51] <jamescarr> had to delete the existing errors in "Problems"
[19:31:13] <philk_> rcjsuen: I wonder what it can be used for in the first place. We currently need to transfer a file using FTP
[19:32:18] <rcjsuen> philk_: well you could just use apache commons for that, there's a bug in bugzilla about an ftp provider on top of apache commons with code
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[19:38:06] <jamescarr> sometimes, I despise eclipse
[19:38:19] <jamescarr> I despise it with all my heart, and I despise it with all my soul :)
[19:40:24] <jamescarr> I could give it more memory, but I think it'll just slow down everything else
[19:41:18] <jamescarr> I don't know wtf it does to slow everything down when I clean... I'm guessing it's the 100 XSDs and 50 WSDLs, but I would guess it would just ignore them?
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[20:00:00] <nitind> jamescarr: Not quite, it would be cleaning up the problem markers.
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[20:14:29] <zacktu> I need help with cvs in eclipse.  I have source tagged as 1-0 and then 1-1.  I made a false start and then replaced the workspace with 1-1.  Now I can't add a new file to the workspace because I can't add to the branch.  How can I move on from here?
[20:17:11] <paulweb515> zacktu: switch back to HEAD ?
[20:17:30] <paulweb515> are they tags or branches (2 different things)
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[20:20:57] <zacktu> i used a tag  -- tagged as "ver-1-0" and later "ver-1-1" -- kept working with the same files -- now the directory containing the files is labeled as "src rel-1-1" rather than "src" as it was before
[20:21:13] <zacktu> sorry "rel" rather than "ver"
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[20:36:09] <zacktu> paulweb515: I switched back to HEAD and was able to add the file to the existing set of source files.  Thank you.
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[20:59:45] <atpa8a> hello
[21:00:04] <atpa8a> are there any plans in eclipse to differentiate source and test classes?
[21:00:51] <atpa8a> particularly when deploying things to WTP servers
[21:01:26] <nitind> what do you mean?
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[21:06:48] <atpa8a> nitind: i usually separate test and "regular" sources following maven format
[21:07:05] <nitind> jamescarr: Any tips from the Maven plug-in?
[21:07:05] <atpa8a> and the output folders for them are different in eclipse
[21:07:37] <atpa8a> but!.. when adding modules to Tomcat i see that *both* test and "regular" sources get deployed
[21:08:11] <tom17bombadil> is there a simple way to sync two o.e.swt.widgets.Text? I tried it via a model using data-binding already with unsatisfying results (regarding back-coupling).
[21:08:33] <atpa8a> is there a way to exclude tests from being deployed?
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[21:09:05] <tom17bombadil> Text a  is in ViewPart A and Text b in ViewPart B
[21:09:42] <Arnos> Is there any way to phrase a generic so that it accepts some (but not all) subtypes of a supertype?
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[21:10:33] <nitind> Arnos: ##java might know better.
[21:10:44] <Arnos> thanks
[21:12:47] <atpa8a> any recommendations for me?
[21:12:53] <atpa8a> :P
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[21:21:03] <Chris64> [PDT] can you tell me how i can change the outline view in a way that it shows elements of inherited classes and similiar things again?
[21:21:10] <Chris64> it's broken and i don't know why
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[21:33:00] <Chris64> no one here using pdt?
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[21:37:46] <nitind> Chris64: SpektoM might know, but you missed him by a minute or so.
[21:37:56] <rcjsuen> You could also try the PDT ~forums
[21:37:58] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[21:38:35] <Chris64> oh okay, did not know that there are webforums too
[21:38:47] <Chris64> thought there are only newsgroups
[21:38:53] <Chris64> thank you :)
[21:39:08] <rcjsuen> We made a transition in the last few months.
[21:39:17] <rcjsuen> altho yes, you could also ask via a newsreader
[21:39:18] <rcjsuen> same trhing
[21:41:19] <Chris64> okay :)
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[21:54:09] <bobbytek> Is it possible to launch multiple launchers at once?
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[22:01:35] <Clemens> does anyone know what can go wrong by adding PDT to eclipse ? It says that I'm missing DLTK, but if I try to add that, I get a lot of "errors"
[22:02:03] <nitind> bobbytek: why not?
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[22:08:39] <bobbytek> because some people only want to launch one launcher at a time?
[22:10:21] <bobbytek> I guess what I'm asking is, can I create a composite launcher?
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[22:35:37] <rcjsuen> bobbytek: no support for trhat out-of-the-box
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[22:41:56] <bobbytek> rcjsuen: ah, thank you sir
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[23:36:02] <jham> guys, anyone clue why Eclipse Modeling Tools (3.5) keeps crashing and crashing? here is the log: http://sprunge.us/NWjN
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[23:37:45] <rcjsuen> jham: sounds kind of like
[23:37:45] <rcjsuen> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=291128 based on the pango err
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[23:41:12] <jham> rcjsuen: it's still not fixed bug, right?
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[23:45:20] <jham> ah, seems that as workaround one could disable assistive technologies
[23:45:23] <jham> will try out
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[23:51:29] <jham> helped indeed..
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[23:55:31] <rcjsuen> jham: I suggest you comment on the bug then.
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