November 15, 2009  
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[00:42:02] <diogo_79> guys have any idea?
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[01:04:10] <diogo_79> guys i have figured out
[01:04:26] <diogo_79> i forgot the endl instrution in cout
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[01:36:05] <jpmorgan> i have installed eclipse sr1 win32 and i am having problems with mouse clicks not working. im using a toshiba laptop. i had a similiar problem w my ubuntu box, but fixed it by exporting a variable (GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true). are these problems related? anyone know solution for windows? thank you
[01:36:31] <rcjsuen> on windows i haven't heard button problems
[01:36:58] <jpmorgan> from the welcome screen i am able to click on workspace. but not the tutorials or anything else. its unresponsive
[01:37:21] <jpmorgan> i even tried setting that env variable in windows, but no effect
[01:37:34] <rcjsuen> well, that env var is only for Linux/gtk+
[01:37:54] <rcjsuen> i dunno about the welcome screen, never really used it
[01:37:56] <rcjsuen> the links may be bad i guess
[01:38:24] <jpmorgan> i just wanted the tutorials mainly. im showing someone eclipse
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[01:40:11] <jpmorgan> well thanks for listening..
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[02:05:07] <diogo_79> bye
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[02:31:06] <cbraddock> hello!  shift+tab is no longer unindenting code for me in PHP :(  can anyone help?
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[03:47:28] <wrench> Is there a way to compile a project w/o running it?
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[03:47:47] <wrench> from Eclipse -- so that the class files go to the <project_name>/bin dir
[03:48:10] <dublisk> Hi, I keep getting Unresolved inclusion <iostream>  , cant figure out how to fix it
[03:48:42] <rcjsuen> wrench: Not sure I understand. You don't have to run anything. People build libraries with Eclipse and there are no "programs" or "main".
[03:49:44] <wrench> rcjsuen: basically I've made changes to code in Eclipse.  I want to run the program from the CLI from the ~/workspace/<project_name>/bin dir -- so i need to recompile the project right?
[03:50:28] <rcjsuen> if you have build automatically on (which is on by default), it should've alrdy recompiled when you saved
[03:50:40] <wrench> rcjsuen: very cool. thanks!
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[03:57:49] <[-jon-]_> I tried installing eclipse onto my computer, but its throwing all sorts of errors over my code
[03:57:53] <[-jon-]_> saying stuff isnt a type, etc
[03:58:00] <[-jon-]_> any suggestions?
[04:02:02] <[-jon-]_> it keeps saying nothing can be resolved to a type
[04:03:04] <rcjsuen> Do you get that problem with a new test class in a new Java project?
[04:03:46] <[-jon-]_> hmm
[04:03:47] <[-jon-]_> no
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[04:04:31] <rcjsuen> Try in a new workspace then.
[04:04:39] <[-jon-]_> I use eclipse at school
[04:04:45] <[-jon-]_> and I copied over the package that I was working on
[04:04:53] <[-jon-]_> how can I import this into my eclipse at home?
[04:06:10] <rcjsuen> i guess i'd just copy the project folder then import it thru the wizard
[04:06:55] <[-jon-]_> i tried
[04:06:58] <[-jon-]_> and nothing was resolving
[04:07:36] <rcjsuen> Did you try in a new workspace?
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[04:11:34] <[-jon-]_> what should i select for import, rcjsuen
[04:11:39] <[-jon-]_> file system?
[04:13:32] <dublisk> eclipse is giving me "/bin/sh: icpc: command not found" even though I added it to the path
[04:13:56] <rcjsuen> well that would depend on whether the project exists or not
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[04:20:25] <[-jon-]_> honestly at first I liked eclipse
[04:20:31] <[-jon-]_> but it is such a major pain to get to work correctly
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[04:24:15] <heshan> any one work with VTP plugin?
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[04:42:48] <dublisk> I cant get eclipse to find my compiler, it keeps telling me that "/bin/sh: icpc: command not found"
[04:46:48] <[-jon-]_> I dont know how eclipse handles it dublisk
[04:46:56] <[-jon-]_> but if you can try replacing icpc with the full path to the compiler
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[08:05:47] <[-jon-]_> where is the default plugin directory if i installed eclipse through apt-get
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[08:48:24] <dibs> Cannot load 64-bit SWT libraries on 32-bit JVM, anyone had this issue on boot
[08:49:23] <dibs> I am using aptana but see it happens to eclipse too so wonderd if there is an easy fix?
[08:49:53] <nitind> Use a 64-bit JVM.
[08:50:28] <dibs> how do I get one on Ubuntu? I can't seem to see one in repos
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[09:19:41] <Hanumaan> how to compare 2 files in eclipse ? If they have any differences .. ?
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[11:10:22] <melfar> Hey guys!  I created a "Dynamic Web project" and added a servlet to it.  But javax.servlet package doesn't appear to be on classpath, how can I fix it?
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[11:15:45] <melfar> nevermind, needed to set a runtime
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[13:40:52] <rcjsuen> Hanumaan: Select both files, right-click, Compare With > Each Other
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[13:56:09] <imaginativeone> how do I make the line numbers visible?
[13:56:41] <rcjsuen> ~line
[13:56:42] <Arbalest> Want to display line numbers in your editor? http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_show_line_numbers_in_the_Eclipse_text_editor.3F
[13:58:19] <imaginativeone> thanks Arbalest
[13:58:30] <imaginativeone> how do I identify my nick?
[14:00:58] <rcjsuen> imaginativeone: /msg nickserv help
[14:01:39] <imaginativeone> thanks
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[14:46:18] <Pholious> Hey guys, my project in eclipse keeps doing something wrong.. when I get clean version off of SVN it runs fine, then after a while the project can not retrieve the main java class in my package anymore... all classes are error-free but just the project map has an error .. anyone know how to solve this? (tried so far: clean project, restart eclipse, reboot computer, checked if the API's were properly set up in build path)
[14:48:31] <Pholious> ugh, removed the mysql API, ran it, error went away from project folder, put it back in and the scripts run again... odd..
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[15:10:04] <mwg> hi
[15:10:23] <mwg> Does anyone know how to use Java syntax highlithing in an RCP application?
[15:11:23] <rcjsuen> you'd need to bring in JDT for starters
[15:14:12] <mwg> Is it not possible wtihout the JDT?
[15:14:21] <mwg> Because I don't want all the JDT stuff, like the Java perspective
[15:14:48] <rcjsuen> well you'd have to filter those all out with activities or tweak their plugin.xml files, manually or with Equinox Transforms, I guess
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[15:15:12] <mwg> Okay, thanks
[15:15:22] <mwg> I thnk what I want it for is fairly trivial
[15:15:32] <mwg> So I'll probably just extend my own SourceViewerConfiguration
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[15:17:01] <squi> hi
[15:17:14] <squi> how can i add reset file filters for the project explorer?
[15:17:18] <squi> add/reset **
[15:18:06] <rcjsuen> edit it thru the view's menu
[15:18:23] <squi> "View's menu"?
[15:18:25] <squi> where is that?
[15:19:03] <squi> sorry, im new to eclipse
[15:19:16] <squi> coming from IntelliJ, I am not quite finding my way around yet
[15:19:44] <squi> there is no "View" in the tool bar, nor in the package explorer's contextmenu
[15:20:01] <rcjsuen> inverted triangle
[15:20:23] <squi> ehm?
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[15:21:20] <squi> i take it, you are not talking to me?
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[15:24:43] <rcjsuen> squi: Yes, you, the inverted triangle, at the top right corner of the package/project explorer.
[15:30:32] <squi> ah thanks a lot rcjsuen
[15:31:10] <rcjsuen> squi: did you find it
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[15:35:35] <squi> rcjsuen yeah i did, thanks again :)
[15:35:42] <rcjsuen> okildyokildy
[15:38:05] <squi> i do, however, think that simpsons lost its charm a long time ago
[15:38:23] <squi> but maybe its just me
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[15:41:39] <rcjsuen> no idea, haven't watched it in years
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[15:44:41] <dr_jerry> Hi anyone experience with eclipse on mac ox leopard?
[15:46:20] <squi> rcjsuen good for you :)
[15:46:40] <rcjsuen> dr_jerry: Taking a poll?
[15:46:47] <dr_jerry> changed with ln current java version to 1.6 and eclipse did not start anymore
[15:47:09] <dr_jerry> changed it back to 1.5 and still toast.
[15:47:24] <dr_jerry> netbeans and java preferences are also toast
[15:47:44] <dr_jerry> (not really interested in polls right now :-)
[15:48:08] <dr_jerry> JAVA_HOME and CurrentJDK haven been changed accordingly
[15:48:15] <rcjsuen> dr_jerry: well it sounded lik a poll
[15:48:38] <rcjsuen> if netbeans is dead too then it doesn't sound like a general Eclipse problem
[15:48:42] <rcjsuen> can you still run Java from a terminal?
[15:48:51] <dr_jerry> java --version gives
[15:49:17] <dr_jerry> 1.5.0_20 (-version)
[15:50:00] <dr_jerry> mvn also seems to work normal.
[15:50:42] <dr_jerry> allthough they point to /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/A/Commands
[15:51:30] <dr_jerry> sorry ignore last line
[15:51:47] <rcjsuen> and what do you exactly mean by "toast"
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[15:54:43] <vick> Hello, i am using eclipse for JAVA, and i want to know, once i run an application using eclipse, is it possible to stop it ? or know what lists of things are being run now ?
[15:54:56] <dr_jerry> eclipse does not start up anymore, it shows a large dialog with all the vm options.
[15:55:17] <vick> i am really having a trouble since i am writing code that bind, and i am having trouble tracking what is being run
[15:55:26] <rcjsuen> vick: Click the red button in the 'Console'?
[15:55:30] <rcjsuen> Or use the 'Debug' view.
[15:55:34] <dr_jerry> java preferences does show a very fast indication of a msg box, but total unreadable
[15:55:42] <rcjsuen> dr_jerry: and what happens to NetBeans and other faulty apps
[15:56:50] <dr_jerry> netbeans starts up, only shows netbeans and the applemenu in the menubar, I even have to force quit it, to exit it.
[15:57:29] <vick> rcjsuen: How do i make the debug view ?
[15:57:49] <rcjsuen> dr_jerry: share the error dialog screenshot with the channel
[15:57:49] <vick> rcjsuen: As i didn't find any red buttons on 'Console', only one button to close the 'Console' window itself
[15:58:12] <rcjsuen> vick: Window > Show View
[15:59:00] <rcjsuen> vick: Are you on Linux?
[16:00:13] <vick> rcjsuen: Thanks a lot man, i already got it.
[16:00:19] <vick> Nah, i am on windows currently.
[16:00:33] <rcjsuen> you got what, the red button?
[16:01:54] <vick> The debug view, everything, now it makes much more sense :)
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[16:03:54] <dr_jerry> rcsjuen I probably look stupid but I never shared imgs via irc.
[16:04:02] <dr_jerry> what's the fastest way?
[16:04:26] <rcjsuen> use an ~imagebin
[16:04:27] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[16:08:58] <dr_jerry> http://imagebin.org/71770
[16:09:11] <dr_jerry> that was a short learning curve
[16:10:37] <rcjsuen> Is -vm pointing to the right place?
[16:11:12] <dr_jerry> Yea I'm looking to that right now.
[16:11:52] <dr_jerry> I found a forum question with same problem. they told me to change the vm with the info.plist,
[16:12:03] <dr_jerry> I did but now it looks kind of strange.
[16:12:44] <dr_jerry> info.plist states:<string>-vm</string><string>/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.5.0/Commands/java</string>
[16:12:57] <dr_jerry> which i donot see back in the dump.
[16:13:16] <rcjsuen> dr_jerry: pastebin the full content of that file
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[16:16:44] <dr_jerry> http://pastebin.com/d283f663b
[16:16:59] <polak> I've created a simple pluging with a bunch of jars in it
[16:17:17] <polak> exported all the packages and the dependant plugins build ok
[16:18:10] <polak> also added all the jars into the build runtime libraries
[16:18:26] <polak> ... have done this several different way now
[16:18:39] <dr_jerry> and eclipse.ini is in http://pastebin.com/d51e7efc3
[16:18:54] <polak> but keep getting stuck at runtime with a NoClassDefFoundException for a class that is clearly in one of the included jars
[16:19:06] <polak> what is the best way to debug these NoClassDefFound exceptions?
[16:19:26] <dr_jerry> polak look at classpath entries
[16:19:47] <polak> in .classpath?
[16:20:18] <dr_jerry> that's pretty lowlevel, does the project properties specify a classpath?
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[16:21:06] <polak> I have the jars tehre and they're all 'exported', but by low level as I understand these are not really related to the class loading for built plug-in
[16:21:13] <polak> ?
[16:21:32] <rcjsuen> dr_jerry: maybe you should add to the eclipse.ini file
[16:21:38] <rcjsuen> i don't know what the plist file is for, I don't use a Mac
[16:22:05] <polak> dr_jerry: yes I do have the jars in the project properties classpath
[16:22:07] <rcjsuen> polak: so you have your plug-in jar and in that jar there are your third-party jars?
[16:22:19] <rcjsuen> and you have _verified_ this by unzipping the jar / jar -tf?
[16:22:45] <polak> no, even simpler, all my 3rd party jars are in the root plugin dir
[16:23:50] <polak> yes, just double check that it's in jar -tf
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[16:25:35] <dr_jerry> rcjsuen, thanks for the help, I gotta go now.
[16:25:52] <dr_jerry> polak goodluck cant help you any further.
[16:25:59] <polak> :|
[16:26:24] <dr_jerry> I think i'll restart my mac, see what that does...
[16:26:30] <polak> i've read something about an .options file to be able to do detailed classload debuggin, anyone heard of this?
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[16:27:08] <rcjsuen> polak: root plugin dir?
[16:27:15] <rcjsuen> <polak> I've created a simple pluging with a bunch of jars in it
[16:27:18] <rcjsuen> isn't this a jar in a jar case
[16:27:40] <polak> ah yes, except that I'm just keeping my plugin in directory form
[16:28:01] <polak> at least in the way I run it for development
[16:28:27] <rcjsuen> when you say it fails at runtime
[16:28:32] <rcjsuen> you mean when you launch Eclipse from Eclipse
[16:28:38] <rcjsuen> or when you actually _deploy_
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[16:32:52] <polak> rcjsuen: when I run the application from Eclipse
[16:32:59] <polak> rcjsuen: it's an RCP application
[16:33:22] <rcjsuen> What does your bundle's MANIFEST.MF, .classpath, and  build.properties file look like
[16:38:11] <beltorak> hi all; is there a way to change the path where plugins are installed? There used to be a way to create an "extension location" in the classic plugin updater, has this been removed from the p2 tool?
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[16:50:28] <polak> rcjsuen: http://pastebin.com/m50e24728
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[16:50:57] <rcjsuen> some spacing would have been helpful ;)
[16:51:31] <polak> yeah, sorry, i had placed it in there, between the .classpath, MANIFEST, build.properties
[16:51:34] <rcjsuen> the manifest.mf seems okay at a glance
[16:51:36] <polak> but they dissappeared
[16:52:04] <rcjsuen> tho it's not clear to me
[16:52:06] <rcjsuen> why you have 1.0.13
[16:52:07] <rcjsuen> and 1.0.11
[16:52:31] <polak> yes, I may have really messed it up at this point
[16:52:32] <polak> ...
[16:52:40] <polak> (i'm upgrading the plugin)
[16:53:06] <rcjsuen> Can't revert back to what you have in version control?
[16:53:23] <rcjsuen> so what, you have both 1.0.11 and 1.0.13 jars in your project root?
[16:55:06] <polak> just corrected to 13
[16:55:14] <polak> ... and of course it run...
[16:55:17] <polak> waaa!
[16:55:34] <polak> sometimes it's the stupid things that you just need another pair of eyeballs for :)
[16:55:41] <polak> thanks rcjsuen
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[17:01:25] <rcjsuen> okilydokily
[17:01:31] <rcjsuen> at least it's not a bug with Eclipse
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[17:10:54] <polak> rcjsuen: ... may have spoke too soon, it's starting now but doesn't work
[17:11:04] <polak> i'll double check all
[17:11:47] <rcjsuen> "starting now but doesn't work"?
[17:14:23] <polak> the component, part of a view, does not actually load
[17:15:13] <rcjsuen> And I presume it used to work before the upgrade?
[17:15:22] <polak> yes
[17:15:33] <polak> ... this seems like a such a simple thing
[17:15:37] <rcjsuen> You have -consolelog turned on, right
[17:15:40] <polak> how do I got about cleaning out eclipse
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[17:16:06] <polak> in my application arguements?
[17:16:07] <polak> no
[17:16:27] <rcjsuen> ~consolelog
[17:16:27] <Arbalest> Writing an Eclipse-based application and can't find anything useful in your console and/or getting "Unhandled event loop exceptions"? Add -consoleLog as a 'Program Argument' to your launch configuration. See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_get_an_unhandled_event_loop_exception_in_my_console._What_gives.3F
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[17:51:18] <reza> what does eclipse add to an ant when i add a folder in Classpath ?
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[17:56:08] <squi> hey
[17:56:20] <rcjsuen> reza: Rephrase your question?
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[17:57:08] <reza> I want build my app with eclispe but I can't build without eclispe
[17:57:40] <reza> If i add a classpath in eclipse  my app will build properly
[17:57:40] <rcjsuen> reza: Is it just a java app with some jars dependencies?
[17:57:55] <rcjsuen> how are you exactly "adding" it
[17:57:55] <reza> yes
[17:58:17] <reza> Right Click build.xml | Run as | Classpath tab
[17:58:33] <reza> I add root folder of my app
[17:58:35] <rcjsuen> well you're modifying the launch config
[17:58:41] <reza> ok
[17:58:44] <rcjsuen> you should be mod'ing your Ant file instead
[17:58:51] <rcjsuen> if you wanna run ANt from a terminal
[17:58:59] <reza> rcjsuen: yes
[17:59:18] <reza> rcjsuen: I googled and I found some path element, am I right ?
[17:59:33] <rcjsuen> ant.apache.org has pretty good documentation you can read there
[18:00:32] <reza> What do I search for exactly ?
[18:02:16] <rcjsuen> read the docs about the compiler tasks
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[18:03:03] <rcjsuen> or how to contribute to Ant's classpath at runtime, it's not clear to me yet which you're trying to achieve, maybe both
[18:04:09] <reza> add a folder to Classpath I want to d
[18:04:13] <reza> *do
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[18:08:48] <reza> thx
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[19:08:15] <hot33331> i have the draw2d plugin installed, but cannot add a dependency to it. Any clues?
[19:08:33] <hot33331> i.e. it does not show up in the dependecy selection dialog
[19:08:45] <hot33331> but it shows up in the installed software dialog
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[19:12:08] <rcjsuen> Maybe it is not in your target platform?
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[19:16:50] <eagles0513875> hey guys i have a dark theme set on my linux desktop how do i change the color of the java code on eclipse
[19:17:22] <hot33331> rcjsuen : it is in my target platform
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[19:17:48] <rcjsuen> hot33331: Did you try in a new plug-in project?
[19:17:59] <hot33331> yes
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[19:18:10] <hot33331> rcjsuen: i just started a new one
[19:20:56] <eagles0513875> :( how can i adjust the font colors
[19:21:37] <rcjsuen> eagles0513875: In the preferences
[19:21:46] <eagles0513875> what section
[19:22:06] <rcjsuen> you can use the top left filter control to filter on keywords
[19:23:25] <eagles0513875> there is no mention of altering the font color though
[19:24:28] <rcjsuen> what are you even programming in anyway
[19:25:13] <eagles0513875> java
[19:25:21] <eagles0513875> its the java version of eclipse
[19:25:27] <rcjsuen> And so did you try expanding the Java section of the prefs?
[19:26:29] <eagles0513875> yes
[19:26:40] <eagles0513875> and what ever color i changed seem to have no effect
[19:26:55] <rcjsuen> In which page were you editing in
[19:28:30] <eagles0513875> found what i was lookin for just now
[19:28:49] <rcjsuen> oic
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[19:31:20] <f0d> where is there documentation on how to add problems to the problem view?
[19:31:49] <rcjsuen> you'd use IResource's API to create markers
[19:32:01] <f0d> Is this documented anywhere?
[19:32:23] <rcjsuen> there's an example plug-in project template for you to use
[19:32:27] <rcjsuen> and there's stuff on the wiki i think
[19:33:24] <f0d> let me check the template
[19:35:45] <f0d> Okay, IMarker seems self explanatory
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[19:42:50] <f0d> So, if my editor has a an IDocument which isn't a file
[19:43:00] <f0d> Would I have to implement IResource myself?
[19:43:42] <rcjsuen> what do you mean
[19:43:44] <rcjsuen> what are you editing
[19:43:51] <rcjsuen> some content in memory?
[19:43:54] <rcjsuen> some db object?
[19:44:43] <f0d> sorry
[19:44:47] <f0d> it's an object in memory
[19:44:52] <f0d> which is displayed in an editor
[19:45:30] <rcjsuen> well unless i was willing to spend manmonths or manyears i would not implement IResource myself I don't think
[19:46:01] <f0d> No, I just looked at the list of methods...
[19:49:32] <f0d> So what would be the approach?
[19:50:29] <rcjsuen> Couldn't say, I've never had to create markers for content that wasn't available in the workspace.
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[20:01:43] <Powerplay> hi anyone advice to fix this 'file not under subversion control'  error ? http://dpaste.com/120789/
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[20:09:38] <rcjsuen> f0d: You have a text editor that you're editing content from memory?
[20:09:53] <f0d> yep
[20:12:32] <rhk> so would it be bad to have plug-ins installed for a previous version of my feature while working on the feature itself?
[20:13:10] <rhk> in other words, should I install my plug-ins and features into my main eclipse installation that I use to develop those same features and plug-ins?
[20:13:28] <rhk> or should I maintain a separate "clean" installation
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[20:15:32] <rcjsuen> f0d: think you could try to create markers on the IWorkspaceRoot or just use plain jface text annotations to decorate your editor, you should also try asking on the forums
[20:15:48] <f0d> Okay, thnaks
[20:15:54] <f0d> Good idea (about the annotations)
[20:16:21] <rcjsuen> I'd probably just use a graphical editor instead but I guess that might not be an option.
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[20:32:25] <rhk> hmm. looks like making an update site that works correctly is a bit of a dark art
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[20:34:43] <rhk> I added a second category in site.xml, and put a feature in it, but the category doesn't show up in "install new software". if I turn off the "group items by category" the feature is there.
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[20:46:55] <d3ngar> Hey there
[20:47:20] <d3ngar> I have a problem that I can't click on the 'next' button when staring a new project
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[20:47:44] <rcjsuen> d3ngar: Linux?
[20:47:54] <d3ngar> Yes
[20:47:58] <rcjsuen> what if you use the keyboard
[20:48:05] <d3ngar> Then it works
[20:48:06] <d3ngar> :)
[20:48:12] <rcjsuen> see faq in topic then
[20:48:16] <d3ngar> I'm using Ganymede
[20:49:28] <d3ngar> rcjsuen: any hint if there is a solution?
[20:49:57] <rcjsuen> d3ngar: the faq entry presents a workaround and links you to the bug
[20:50:05] <rcjsuen> the bug number + bug link i mean to say
[20:50:26] <d3ngar> Cool
[20:50:28] <d3ngar> Thanks
[20:53:16] <d3ngar> That seems to have worked
[20:53:24] <d3ngar> Thanks rcjsuen
[20:53:42] <rcjsuen> okilydokily
[20:54:09] <d3ngar> Do I have to repeat this to get this working again?
[20:54:26] <d3ngar> Or is this a permanent fix?
[20:55:00] <rcjsuen> Well, until a proper fix is implemented, you a) downgrade gtk+ / get an older gtk+ install and somehow point eclipse to that or b) define that env var
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[21:07:53] <vwegert> Am I the only one who is having trouble with http://www.eclipse.org/resources/resources.rss?
[21:08:29] <rcjsuen> vwegert: loads (in Firefox) for me
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[21:08:46] <DustyDingo> hi
[21:08:49] <vwegert> rcjsuen: shows me the PHP source code :-)
[21:08:57] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[21:08:59] <rcjsuen> I'm on Windows here
[21:09:12] <DustyDingo> i need to install an ibm rational software designer on debian testing
[21:09:15] <vwegert> rcjsuen: I'd say that's a server issue
[21:09:22] <DustyDingo> (it builds up on eclipse=
[21:09:28] <rcjsuen> vwegert: I think so too, but just saying ;p
[21:09:32] <DustyDingo> but the install bin fails at some point
[21:09:46] <DustyDingo> i will post you the log
[21:10:09] <rcjsuen> Shouldn't you be asking IBM? :o
[21:10:27] <DustyDingo> http://pastebin.com/d1e0de25
[21:10:33] <DustyDingo> rcjsuen: *g*
[21:10:41] <DustyDingo> well, i thought someone could help in here
[21:11:09] <DustyDingo> rcjsuen: we have to use it for an university course, so i get no support from ibm
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[21:11:32] <DustyDingo> i am not that familiar with java and eclipse
[21:11:43] <rcjsuen> well if it's for school then i would get help from my TAs/professor/school IT staff
[21:11:50] <rcjsuen> this bit is kind of odd eclipse.buildId=unknown
[21:12:20] <rcjsuen> I guess your friends and classmates don't have this problem?
[21:12:27] <DustyDingo> there are com.ibm.cic.agent.ui.*.jar files in ./plugins
[21:12:40] <DustyDingo> rcjsuen: well, those use windows
[21:13:34] <rcjsuen> Did you all at least get the same type of download from eclipse.org?
[21:14:33] <DustyDingo> well, i use debians eclipse package
[21:15:07] <rcjsuen> try getting the same package that your friends got
[21:15:13] <rcjsuen> we don't handle downstream packages
[21:15:30] <DustyDingo> well, that won't help much,...
[21:16:02] <rcjsuen> Why do you say that? It would at least identify if it is a packaging problem or a general Eclipse problem
[21:16:58] <DustyDingo> eclipse-SDK-3.5.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz is all i need?
[21:17:34] <rcjsuen> if that's what your friends got / what your professor say to get i'd get that
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[21:17:50] <rcjsuen> it would be safe to start with that one in general, yes
[21:18:03] <rcjsuen> but i dunno what dependencies that RSD might have
[21:19:46] <DustyDingo> imho, installing an unpacked version hardly never solves any problems :(
[21:21:38] <vwegert> DustyDingo: Au contraire. Some maintainers really should be punished for what they do with upstream software...
[21:21:57] <DustyDingo> well
[21:22:04] <DustyDingo> this package doesn't even have a install routine
[21:22:26] <vwegert> Because you don't need to install it
[21:22:28] <rcjsuen> the install routine [for Eclipse SDK] is, untar, cd eclipse, ./eclipse, the end
[21:22:36] <DustyDingo> *sight*
[21:22:48] <rcjsuen> but you are right there is no installer
[21:22:59] <DustyDingo> of course i have to install it
[21:25:39] <DustyDingo> *slaps*
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[21:32:03] <rcjsuen> i wonder what happened
[21:32:04] <rcjsuen> oh well
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[21:38:56] <rhk> eclipse doesn't fit the standard installer model very well
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[21:39:16] <rhk> s/standard/common/
[21:39:57] <rcjsuen> rhk: To some, installers are a showstopper http://blog.hantsuki.org/2009/03/20/eclipse-and-installers/
[21:41:24] <rhk> I agree, and I think eclipse gains some distinct advantages from being unfriendly to installers
[21:41:33] <rhk> but it does cause some friction at times
[21:41:50] <rhk> I really hate what most of the linux distros do with eclipse.
[21:42:21] <rhk> not to mention how they almost always lag behind, and it's nearly impossible to update
[21:42:47] <rcjsuen> well Fedora has been up-to-date, and seems now Debian/Ubuntu are too
[21:43:04] <rcjsuen> however, installing plug-ins on those systems is probably going to be problematic
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[21:45:38] <multiHYP> hey guys
[21:47:10] <multiHYP> i need to change the text on the first jmenuitem based on the shiftkey. so, for instance the first menuitem is a description for the other menuitems, and if a shiftkey is hold down i need to change the text of that description menuitem. what listener do i use, and attach it to what exactly?
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[21:49:37] <multiHYP> ok never mind the attachment of the listener, how can i cast/as what should i cast the KeyEvent parameter to get a keyboard key object?
[21:49:56] <shuo> hi does anyone know how to get the current file in a editor as IResource?
[21:50:35] <rcjsuen> ~tell shuo about dev-faq
[21:50:36] <Arbalest> shuo: Writing Eclipse plug-ins / RCP apps and don't know where to turn? See these FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/RCP_FAQ / Or look at EclipseCon talks/tutorials - http://www.eclipsecon.org/
[21:50:52] <shuo> oh thanks!
[21:53:42] <multiHYP> nevermind problem solved
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[21:55:25] <rcjsuen> shuo: Any luck?
[21:56:35] <shuo> rcjsuen: :) yea got the IDocument according to the faq!
[21:56:49] <rcjsuen> oic, i thot you wanted the IResource
[21:57:04] <shuo> isn't IDocument subclass of IResource?
[21:57:19] <shuo> if memory serves...
[21:57:43] <rcjsuen> I'm sure you'll find out soon enough :o
[21:57:51] <shuo> ah.. haha
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[22:00:25] <mattt_> Why would subversive be trying to use a proxy in OS X when the proxy config is disabled?
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[22:01:08] <mattt_> I had it set ages ago to 127.0.0.1:8228, but it's been disabled for longer than I can remember.  In fact, subversive was working fine last time I used a few weeks ago.
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[22:06:02] <multiHYP> how to create an anonymous array of JMenuItem ? struggeling with :(
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[22:06:18] <multiHYP> and initialize it in place...
[22:06:25] <rcjsuen> Anonymous array?
[22:06:33] <multiHYP> of JMenuItems
[22:06:49] <multiHYP> new JMenuItem[] = {MI.., MI..., ...}; ???
[22:07:09] <multiHYP> how was that, im completely perplexed!
[22:07:42] <multiHYP> yes, anonymous, without specifying variable name for it etc.
[22:08:35] <rcjsuen> same way you would initialize an object
[22:08:45] <rcjsuen> assuming we are talking about the same thing
[22:08:54] <multiHYP> can you give an example?
[22:09:20] <multiHYP> i have mi1, mi2, mi3,  how can I make a JMenuItem array out of them?
[22:10:57] <multiHYP> nevermind, seem to figured that one out as well :)
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[22:26:02] <shuo> ah sorry didn't find how to get IResource..
[22:26:15] <shuo> :(
[22:27:07] <rcjsuen> shuo: it shows how to get an IFile
[22:27:14] <shuo> yea
[22:27:32] <rcjsuen> Is it not working?
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[22:27:46] <shuo> oh IFile is subclass of IResource?
[22:28:26] <rcjsuen> Again I'll let you figure that out yourself. You should probably use F4 in the future.
[22:31:51] <shuo> o yea :) IFile extends IResource.
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[23:52:35] <mattt_> Subversive has broken all of a sudden.  I can access my svn repository via https in a browser, however I get connection errors in eclipse.  The console log (OS X) has some huge long error which at one point indicates the connection was refused by the server - but looking at the server logs, no connection attempt was made.
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[23:57:57] <Infinito> the 'user' apache uses to show the repository for you and the 'user' you used to connect via eclipse are probably different
[23:58:29] <mattt_> I'm using the user I login with via http basic
[23:58:37] <mattt_> in subversive
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[23:59:03] <mattt_> that is.. the user/pw I use to login through safari is the same user/pw I use in eclipse/subversive
[23:59:10] <mattt_> and it was working a few weeks ago
[23:59:26] <mattt_> like I said, there's no apparent connection attempt when looking at the server logs
[23:59:32] <mattt_> so it's not even getting that far

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