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[00:22:41] <multiHYP> what does SR1 in the Galileo release stand for?
[00:22:55] <rcjsuen> Service Release
[00:23:21] <multiHYP> like a service pack?
[00:23:25] <multiHYP> in windows
[00:23:45] <rcjsuen> not as big of a deal
[00:23:47] <rcjsuen> just think bug fixes
[00:24:19] <multiHYP> well, thats good to hear, i went back as long as europa release, but the problem persisted
[00:24:42] <multiHYP> i noticed that the swt.jar in the plugins doesn't change as often as i thought it would
[00:25:24] <multiHYP> so am giving the cocoa 32 bit another chance...
[00:26:03] <rcjsuen> why don't you use carbon if you have so much trouble with cocoa
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[00:26:59] <multiHYP> i have more trouble with the swt lib that i include and use in my project than with eclipse
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[00:27:29] <multiHYP> if you were on the mac, i would suggest to create a helloworld with the swt shell, and export it, then you would see the problem.
[00:28:09] <multiHYP> doesn't matter with what version of eclipse, the swt.jar library that is out there doesn't play nice with macintosh, why, i don't know...
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[00:45:41] <multiHYP> rcjsuen: how can i track down a problem that is not visible in the eclipse during compile and runtime, but it makes the application hang during runtime outside eclipse?
[00:45:59] <rcjsuen> get a thread dump for starters i guess
[00:48:23] <multiHYP> what is that?
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[00:49:04] <rcjsuen> a log/dump of thread info
[00:49:05] <rcjsuen> ~deadlock
[00:49:05] <Arbalest> In a deadlock? http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/How_to_report_a_deadlock
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[00:49:59] <multiHYP> everything seems like a deadlock except the cpu usage remains somewhat constant, instead the app and gui of it freezes.
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[00:50:39] <rcjsuen> that wiki page tells you how to get thread dumps
[00:50:43] <rcjsuen> doesn't matter if you have a deadlock or not
[00:51:26] <multiHYP> ok thanks
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[00:55:48] <SJr> I'm not sure where to ask this, I just reinstalled my system, and my swt apps, vuze and eclipse all look like crap, I'm running ubuntu, and I'm not sure exactly what's wrong with the theme
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[00:56:23] <rcjsuen> hard to define "crap", screenshots might help
[00:58:08] <SJr> http://sjrx.net/pics/crap.png
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[00:58:29] <SJr> The font is all blocky and big, and everything is grey
[00:58:31] <NoobFukaire> are you launching eclipse as root or another user?
[00:58:39] <NoobFukaire> like using sudo or something?
[00:58:42] <SJr> Nope as a regular user, but I copied the eclipse from my old install
[00:58:53] <SJr> But yeah it's exactly like when I run some applications as root
[00:59:08] <rcjsuen> if your vuze is dead too then sounds more like a generic distro/gtk+ problem
[00:59:17] <rcjsuen> are you using kde
[00:59:23] <SJr> I copied the eclipse and vuze from my previous install, so I thought perhaps I didn't install something, but I installed both of them from pakcages and they still look like crap.
[00:59:25] <SJr> Yeah rcjsuen
[00:59:30] <multiHYP> well, i know at least whats happening: Invalid memory access of location 0x70 eip=0x9073b3e5
[00:59:31] <multiHYP> Bus error
[00:59:31] <rcjsuen> maybe your themes isn't being read
[00:59:51] <SJr> How/where would I check that?
[00:59:56] <SJr> Other GTK apps seem to work okay
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[01:04:05] <multiHYP> it almost looks like my code has an infinite loop init, but i know for 100% that it doesn't, i even tested it with a helloworld application, and that had the same problem
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[01:21:39] <multiHYP> Error message on mac os x when attempted to run an swt based app: http://codepad.org/IyvAkdoO
[01:22:41] <multiHYP> if anyone is keeping the channel logs for what ever purpose, this should be fixed in a month, if not, every single developer in the community has his head stuck in his arse!
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[01:25:29] <nitind> multiHYP: Not sure how one leads to the other.
[01:25:29] <multiHYP> <<<<<<<<<< SWT FATAL ERROR == MISERABLY FAILED >>>>>>>>>>
[01:25:41] <hrad> hey, I have jdk 1.6 set for eclipse but when I start it m2eclipse plugin complains that it needs JDK but eclipse is running in JRE only...I have 3 identical installations...2 on 32bit linux (they are OK) and one 64bit, which has the problem
[01:26:32] <nitind> multiHYP: Is that the right codepad, then, because there's no mention of SWT there.
[01:27:06] <multiHYP> nitind: are a developer involved in writing the code for swt.jar library?
[01:27:07] <nitind> hrad: How identical are they?
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[01:27:42] <nitind> multiHYP: I think so, if I correct some of your grammar.  But what's CA.jar, then?
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[01:27:58] <multiHYP> its a sample shell
[01:28:17] <multiHYP> running of which leads to heavy memory leak
[01:28:19] <hrad> nitind: in the plugins installed ....they are EE editions, and only maven, springIDE, and some SCM plugins installed
[01:28:49] <multiHYP> it consists of the simplest helloworld swt example
[01:29:02] <nitind> hrad: so it wants an installation with a javac it can call.
[01:29:34] <nitind> multiHYP: Which JRE?  Which SWT build?  Have you reported it in Bugzilla?
[01:29:40] <nitind> multiHYP: Which OS, even?
[01:29:55] <multiHYP> the current swt build which is in the latest 32bit cocoa release
[01:30:03] <multiHYP> JRE is 1.5 and on mac
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[01:30:17] <nitind> multiHYP: Don't tell *me*, put this in Bugzilla.  Stat!
[01:30:19] <multiHYP> mac 10.5.8
[01:30:31] <multiHYP> well you just said you are one of the devs
[01:30:42] <nitind> Waoh, no I didn't.
[01:31:05] <multiHYP> nitind: multiHYP: I think so, if I correct some of your grammar.  But what's CA.jar, then?
[01:31:37] <nitind> multiHYP: I read that as asking in general if there are still developers working on SWT code.  Which obviously is yes.
[01:32:05] <multiHYP> no i am not generally asking, becaus ei am in eclipse channel
[01:32:12] <multiHYP> how more specific can it get?
[01:33:04] <nitind> multiHYP: Putting the work "you" in there?  Anyway, have you filed a bug report?
[01:33:08] <nitind> s/work/word
[01:33:44] <hrad> nitind: how do you mean it ?
[01:34:00] <multiHYP> no and i won't because the export feature of eclipse ?doesn't matter export to/as what? is not working since eclipse version 3.3...
[01:34:23] <multiHYP> on macintosh specifically, i reported that many times, which lead to nothing, nada!
[01:34:36] <nitind> hrad: If m2eclipse is looking for a JDK instead of a JRE, it probably wants some of the extra tools in it, like "javac".  Does it have a way for you to tell it which one to use?
[01:35:20] <nitind> multiHYP: I'm having some trouble parsing that first part.  What export?
[01:36:59] <multiHYP> you have a java project that makes use of swt, has included the swt.jar library, when you export that as a .jar file, or a runnable .jar file, or even a mac os x application, it fails
[01:37:15] <multiHYP> it fails without a chance of success, since version 3.3...
[01:37:19] <multiHYP> on macintosh
[01:37:29] <nitind> multiHYP: fails at what?  running without the swt.jar also being explicitly placed on the command line classpath?  Or the export itself fails?
[01:37:31] <multiHYP> and no one fixed that flipping bug
[01:37:49] <multiHYP> running the exported product fails
[01:37:57] <nitind> multiHYP: How is the swt.jar "included" there?
[01:38:09] <nitind> multiHYP: product or .jar?
[01:38:16] <multiHYP> ask the people who do the export, i dunno i dont care
[01:38:44] <multiHYP> i am not here to make eclipse better, after they screwed up the product even worse
[01:38:49] <nitind> multiHYP: I thought you did care, that being why you brought it up.
[01:39:10] <multiHYP> i care about running my app after exporting it, not fixing the eclipse problem
[01:39:28] <multiHYP> if they are not fixing it in a month i code in xcode or netbeans
[01:39:34] <nitind> multiHYP: Then include the swt.jar and dll files in there with the right command line invocations.
[01:39:38] <multiHYP> bad product doesn't deserve users
[01:39:45] <nitind> multiHYP: Do you have a bug number at least?
[01:39:49] <multiHYP> no
[01:39:56] <nitind> multiHYP: Was it ever reported in Bugzilla?
[01:39:58] <multiHYP> its been more than 6 months ago
[01:40:16] <nitind> multiHYP: Then does it still happen?
[01:40:24] <multiHYP> and heck this conversation doesn't fix my problem either
[01:40:39] <multiHYP> yes, why would i bother talking about it then?\
[01:41:34] <nitind> multiHYP: Because you want the developers to know you're having a problem, and give them a chance to fix it?  How're they going to know unless you report it?  Maybe you're the only person seeing it.
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[01:42:04] <multiHYP> maybe i am the only stupid mac user that uses eclipse for all his coding
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[01:42:32] <multiHYP> as far as i know, no one on the mac even remotely cares about eclipse, not at least between developers i know
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[01:43:14] <nitind> multiHYP: You're not the only Mac user and you're not stupid, but maybe you're in a scenario where no one else has been recently.  If you don't report a bug, know one might know it's even there.
[01:43:49] <nitind> multiHYP: And, damnit, *I* care about it on the Mac.
[01:44:02] <rcjsuen> There's a ~292321 that Kevin fixed but I don't know if it's related.
[01:44:03] <Arbalest> Bug 292321 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=292321 - Platform / SWT / 3.6 - PC / Mac OS X - Cocoa - RESOLVED / FIXED / normal / - Assignee: krbarnes - Reduce NSString garbage in NSAutoreleasePool
[01:44:40] <multiHYP> i am about to throw this old laptop out and get a lenovo for god sakes. mac != developer, where as windows == developer^developer
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[01:45:47] <multiHYP> if the people coding the underlying c code where not average java developers, there wouldn't be memory leaks in a popular and widely used open library such as swt
[01:47:54] <rcjsuen> i think you want ~277939
[01:47:55] <Arbalest> Bug 277939 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=277939 - Platform / SWT / 3.5 - Macintosh / Mac OS X - Cocoa - NEW / normal / - Assignee: krbarnes - NSCFArray autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
[01:48:06] <rcjsuen> Please provide feedback on that bug if applicable, thank you.
[01:50:30] <multiHYP> funny, brought up in 2009/05, and in 2009/10 moved it to elsewhere, still not fixed!
[01:51:13] <rcjsuen> sounds like Kevin can't repro it, or at least, when he tried originally in May
[01:54:44] <multiHYP> nitind: if you are a mac user, create a sample helloworld app using swt, even running it in eclipse will product lots of garbage
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[01:55:23] <multiHYP> its not memory leak (maybe that too) it tries to access part of the memory that belongs to something else.
[01:55:28] <nitind> multiHYP: I don't have 10.5.8 installed anywhere.
[01:55:37] <multiHYP> what do you have
[01:56:02] <Yanick_> hi, I'm trying to install PMD for eclipse, but can't find anything that will work; all repository are for eclipse 3.4. Does anyone actually have the repository location for PMD for eclipse 3.5?
[01:56:11] <nitind> multiHYP: 10.6 and 10.4.something on a machine at the office.
[01:56:56] <multiHYP> well, you are just one lucky mac user, i am in lack of a usb key that is large enough to copy snow leopard on it in order to install it
[01:57:19] <multiHYP> not to mention that the cd/dvd drive of the macbook pro is not working properly either
[01:57:52] <nitind> multiHYP: The 10.4 machine's a G3 iBook with a CD-only drive and dead battery.  Perhaps not so lucky.
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[01:58:33] <multiHYP> well, you have options, thats relevant, that i don't
[02:00:59] <Yanick_> does anyone know if PMD actually exists for Galileo?
[02:01:43] <nitind> What's PMD?
[02:02:02] <Yanick_> it checks if the code is compliant to certain coding rules
[02:02:09] <Yanick_> I need it for university
[02:02:27] <rcjsuen> does the university tell you to install 3.5?
[02:02:53] <Yanick_> why would I not?
[02:03:02] <rcjsuen> Yanick_: well you say you can't find 3.5's update site
[02:03:08] <rcjsuen> so i just assumed the course requirements was get 3.4 + get pmd for 3.4
[02:03:11] <rcjsuen> hence i asked
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[02:04:54] <Trap1996> Hi. Can someone help me figure out how to get Eclipse to output console text, ie the printf() function in C? The console window doesn't print anything, although it takes my input when the program asks for it.
[02:05:00] <Yanick_> it's an easy way of discarding my question; does PMD exists for eclipse 3.5 (it must since I think the university has it installed for 3.5), and where is it, because the Eclipse plugin central is shamefully outdated and all I can find is the direct .zip download, and I don't know how to "manully" install the plugin (dropping the file into plugins does not seem to work)
[02:05:39] <rcjsuen> try the ~dropins folder if you have a zip i suppose
[02:05:39] <Arbalest> To learn about how to use the dropins/ folder provided by p2, see here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Getting_Started#Dropins
[02:07:07] <Trap1996> I realize it's the sort of newbie question that pisses people off, but if I didnt spend 40 minutes trying to figure out I wouldn't be asking.
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[02:14:01] <nitind> Trap1996: It could also be that no one knows why that doesn't work.
[02:17:48] <Trap1996> omg, it's an actual Eclipse bug...
[02:18:07] <Trap1996> I thought the problem was me not knowing how to configure Eclipse
[02:35:48] <NoobFukaire> is there a term for when the osgi container automatically satisfies a dependency, like what's done with fragment bundles?
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[02:45:29] <venky10> Hello. I just installed Galileo. When I create a Project and add a bunch of .c and .h files, how to sort these files based on the file type? Right now, I just see them sorted alphabetically.
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[02:54:37] <millertimek1a2m3> hey
[02:54:41] <millertimek1a2m3> anyone there?
[02:54:52] <millertimek1a2m3> ok,  I'm having trouble installing Visual editor
[02:57:42] <millertimek1a2m3> i'm using this url in teh install new software part of eclipse to try to add VE
[02:57:51] <millertimek1a2m3> and I keep getting this error message:
[02:58:11] <millertimek1a2m3> http://pastebin.com/m22d73dbb
[02:58:16] <millertimek1a2m3> someone please help
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[03:10:57] <Trap1996> fuck eclipse right up its buggy, user-unfriendly ass.
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[03:11:18] <rcjsuen> what an exit
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[04:37:19] <multiHYP> nitind: are you available?
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[04:42:37] <multiHYP> ok i leave this message for nitind and also rcjsuen: After fiddling with eclipse(am in such a love/hate relationship with the ide) and looking desparately online, i ended up on someone's website that had a similar problem, except in 2008 (and still the problem exists). Anyways he linked to a solution in the swt faq which said that the export option of eclipse excludes a java command line argument which avoids running .jar files on the mac. That
[04:42:38] <multiHYP> argument apparently is -XstartOnFirstThread. Thanks for the discussion though and please let me know if there is a way to fix it, so that eclipse exports the .jar properly.
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[04:44:26] <lindzeyn> Does anyone know how to turn on some of the helpful features in CDT.  Right now it isn't highlighting any errors that could be caught at compile time
[04:44:56] <lindzeyn> I use ubuntu and I just "apt-got it" moments ago
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[04:53:22] <multiHYP> if you want to turn on/off specific things in the editor, go to Preferences>Content Assist or Editor (more general)
[04:53:44] <multiHYP> content assist is more for code hinting etc.
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[04:59:01] <Diablo-D3> does galileo have any dark editor themes available?
[04:59:10] <Diablo-D3> all the dark themes I can find dont work on newer eclipses
[05:06:31] <multiHYP> Diablo-D3: nice you mention it, it hurts my eyes after too long editing, i use to put my terminal also into a dark theme, but never thought of doing the same with eclipse
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[05:07:06] <Diablo-D3> multiHYP: open up gvim and set your theme to darkblue
[05:07:25] <Diablo-D3> or macvim or vim on win32 or whatever your platform is
[05:07:38] <Diablo-D3> (console vim has troubles dealing with terms correctly, so dont bother there)
[05:07:41] <Diablo-D3> thats what I want in eclipse
[05:08:05] <multiHYP> yeah i don't think eclipse has much customisation in that respect
[05:08:09] <multiHYP> unfortunately
[05:08:15] <Diablo-D3> it has a dark blue, but not obnoxious background, and the colors contrast and mesh with it well
[05:08:21] <Diablo-D3> multiHYP: yeah
[05:08:22] <Diablo-D3> and its stupid
[05:08:27] <Diablo-D3> eclipse almost almost does everything I want
[05:08:33] <multiHYP> it should be simple to implement
[05:08:47] <Diablo-D3> it used to be simple to begin with
[05:08:54] <Diablo-D3> you imported other people's prefs
[05:08:55] <multiHYP> maybe it would make the ide look less serious, i dunno
[05:09:06] <Diablo-D3> less serious? no, its already kind of useless
[05:09:21] <Diablo-D3> color highlighted syntax on white causes fatigue easily
[05:09:36] <multiHYP> oh here
[05:09:38] <Diablo-D3> anyone who seriously programs has long since switched to colored darks or just black
[05:09:52] <Diablo-D3> there used to also be an eclipse plugin to do automate color themes
[05:10:00] <multiHYP> i like green and yellowish/white text in foreground
[05:10:07] <Diablo-D3> but it doesnt work on newer eclipses
[05:10:07] <multiHYP> like old mac terminals
[05:10:14] <Diablo-D3> multiHYP: either way
[05:10:31] <Diablo-D3> if eclipse wants to continue having syntax highlighting, it needs to fix how color themes work
[05:10:50] <multiHYP> look, go under preferences>General>Editors>Text Editor> there in the bottom right are some little customization options
[05:11:49] <multiHYP> there is also a link under that bit says: "Colors and Fonts"
[05:12:02] <multiHYP> when you click that you end up in the right place, i think
[05:12:41] <Diablo-D3> yeah, I know
[05:12:46] <Diablo-D3> but I have to go and manually change _all_ the colors
[05:12:53] <Diablo-D3> because the default theme is setup for white background
[05:14:02] <multiHYP> is there a way importing or exporting custom themes?
[05:14:19] <multiHYP> not themes per say, but these settings somehow saved, or loaded?
[05:15:06] <Diablo-D3> yeah
[05:15:18] <Diablo-D3> export settings, then edit out all the non color lines
[05:15:27] <Diablo-D3> this is how it used to be done
[05:15:32] <Diablo-D3> but none of the old themes work
[05:15:46] <multiHYP> oh check this out, General>Appearance
[05:15:53] <Diablo-D3> yes multiHYP, thats where it is.
[05:15:53] <multiHYP> everything you want is possibly there
[05:16:01] <Diablo-D3> but it doesnt have any themes _that already exist_
[05:16:06] <multiHYP> oh, thats a bummer
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[05:40:38] <multiHYP> why is there no statusbar widget in swt library?
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[06:06:45] <b1n0ry> is there a different channel i should consult regarding pdt?
[06:07:51] <b1n0ry> as of now, neither my 'run' nor 'debug' buttons actually appear to "do" anything.
[06:08:30] <b1n0ry> no browser window, no debug window, nothing
[06:10:33] <b1n0ry> i have set up configurations that, according to every piece of doc i can find, should be correct
[06:11:14] <b1n0ry> i think i'll just uninstall eclipse, redownload it... maybe something's corrupt
[06:12:28] <nitind> b1n0ry: There's #pdt, but you might have better luck in the forums (eclipse.org/forums).  The developers are almost never in #pdt.
[06:12:56] <nitind> multiHYP: So it was a command line thing?  Does it also generate a .exe or .cmd/.sh for any command line parameters?
[06:13:14] <multiHYP> no not really
[06:13:59] <multiHYP> i tried to add arguments during export in those dialogs, but for export as runnable jar there are no argument fields available...
[06:14:17] <multiHYP> maybe for export as max os x application i could do that, let me see if that helps in there...
[06:14:19] <b1n0ry> i'm going to try this first. i had downloaded some zend thing through the updater at the suggestion of some random blog that may or may not have been authoritive.
[06:14:28] <b1n0ry> could have screwed something up
[06:14:46] <b1n0ry> so i'm just deleting everything and trying again :)
[06:18:03] <multiHYP> no not helping in there, if you know how to add this addition into the export as runnable jar file part of eclipse, let me know, cause i don't want to leave it like this...
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[06:21:55] <b1n0ry> also, just as interesting side note, HP is using eclipse for their ServiceCenter/Service Manager client. just in case you didn't know.
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[06:24:59] <multiHYP> nitind: do you know why my Scale goes beyound the size although it shouldn't?
[06:25:09] <multiHYP> here: http://codepad.org/TJ2G6Gqz
[06:25:46] <b1n0ry> any known compat. issues between eclipse and win vista?
[06:26:25] <b1n0ry> nm, i should know better.
[06:26:46] <multiHYP> get 7 why vista?
[06:26:54] <b1n0ry> giyf and there are always compat. issues when vista is involved.
[06:27:04] <b1n0ry> came with the pc and i won't shell out $$ for an os
[06:27:20] <multiHYP> get an illegal copy
[06:27:35] <multiHYP> better than vista, vista is short lived
[06:27:41] <b1n0ry> actually, vista prem. came with the pc. i went to a microsoft conference and picked up a complimentary copy of ultimate.
[06:28:28] <b1n0ry> yeah... i don't want a hacked os either. becomes too much of a PITA when it comes to handling updates, 'genuine' checks, etc.
[06:28:33] <multiHYP> complimentary, i like that :D
[06:28:55] <b1n0ry> yeah, was pretty cool. they gave us a thank you bundle for attending the conference.
[06:29:05] <multiHYP> maybe you can get it cheap, like 30$ something as a student
[06:29:18] <multiHYP> the 7 version i mean
[06:29:34] <b1n0ry> visual studio 2k8 standard, sql server 2k8 standard, mobile 6 dev kit, and vista ultimate
[06:30:54] <b1n0ry> oh, and a copy of a book that one of their staff members wrote regarding BI tools.
[06:31:11] <multiHYP> well, the standard version of vs is not worth much, never the less free is free...
[06:31:24] <b1n0ry> it's not bad for learning c# or asp or something
[06:31:50] <b1n0ry> and sql server 2k8 standard is much better than the espress ed.
[06:31:53] <b1n0ry> express
[06:32:10] <multiHYP> express ones are rubbish
[06:32:16] <b1n0ry> yep, agreed.
[06:32:44] <b1n0ry> just msde with an upgraded engine
[06:33:37] <b1n0ry> i like the student edition thing... i have a coworker that's going back to school. might be able to get me the student discount.
[06:33:45] <b1n0ry> ty for the suggestino
[06:33:47] <b1n0ry> suggestion
[06:37:50] <multiHYP> np
[06:38:18] <multiHYP> if his uni or institution has ms agreements, he can download as good as a win 7 pro for free.
[06:38:20] <multiHYP> ;)
[06:38:25] <multiHYP> legally
[06:39:40] <b1n0ry> i'm sure they do. big university.
[06:41:12] <b1n0ry> bah. this didn't work. keep getting timeouts trying to reach zend debugger. of course, i'm able to refresh it just fine via my browser. eclipse is timing out.
[06:42:04] <nitind> multiHYP: Not really.  I don't see a minimum set, though.
[06:42:57] <multiHYP> nitind: i fixed it partially, now my GridData puts everything together vertically, as far as pushing some components into each other
[06:43:37] <b1n0ry> [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Invalid method in request <-- nope. looks like pdt just doesn't know how to talk to the new version of zend ce
[06:44:54] <multiHYP> ok nitind: that fixed well
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[06:48:37] <multiHYP> what type of listener applies to Scale widget?
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[07:03:35] <multiHYP> nevermind
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[07:40:02] <ExtremeDevilz> Hi Guys
[07:40:10] <ExtremeDevilz> I imported a project
[07:40:27] <ExtremeDevilz> but It is displaying class files too together with .Java
[07:40:33] <ExtremeDevilz> how do I make the class file visible
[07:40:41] <ExtremeDevilz> invisible
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[08:02:18] <webus> hi to all
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[08:09:10] <webus> How can I include in the Eclipse auto-completion when writing the names of classes in Visual Studio?
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[08:22:17] <millertimek1a2m3> does anyone know how to draw up the pane (in eclipse using VE) that lets me drag and drop features onto the window i'm editing
[08:24:09] <millertimek1a2m3> does anyone know how to draw up the pane (in eclipse using VE) that lets me drag and drop features onto the window i'm editing
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[09:52:25] <mwg> morning
[09:53:04] <mwg> I'm trying to understand jface databinding for an rcp perspective and i have a common data model (which is a singleton) which is databound to a treeviewer
[09:53:35] <mwg> But my question is, when an item is added to the list in the model, how do I automatically refresh the viewer?
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[10:21:25] <EricInBNE> subclipse has suddenly went on vacation for me. if I do checkout projects from SVN
[10:21:28] <EricInBNE> it gives me a list
[10:21:35] <EricInBNE> and then if I type next it does nothing
[10:21:52] <EricInBNE> nothing shows up in ~/workspace/.metadata/.log
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[11:11:18] <mwg> I'm trying to understand jface databinding for an rcp perspective and i have a common data model (which is a singleton) which is databound to a treeviewer
[11:11:19] <mwg> But my question is, when an item is added to the list in the model, how do I automatically refresh the viewer?
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[11:21:36] <multiHYP> what is the swt widget that is located in the right hand side of the title bar of the eclipse ide called???
[11:21:41] <multiHYP> it is used to hide and reappear the toolbar items.
[11:23:38] <multiHYP> under mac os x.
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[11:26:36] <daedra> hey, I'm having problems with pydev in eclipse
[11:27:23] <daedra> everytime I launch eclipse I have to set the environment to pydev, and find the interpreter all over again
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[11:38:35] <CreatixEA> Hi, I created a RCP application in which I created a new extension point definition. I developped a plugin that extends this extension point (just doing this). When debugging in eclipse, I checked this plugin in the debug env launcher, but it seems the extension point is never read ... (here is the code that should read it : http://creatixea.pastebin.com/d56dffdd5 )
[11:40:28] <tom17bombadil> mwg, you could write a method 'refresh' yourself, where you reload the data of the treeviewer
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[12:12:00] <daedra> everytime I launch eclipse I have to set the perspective to pydev, and find the interpreter all over again... how do I set eclipse up to launch with previous settings?
[12:12:11] <rcjsuen> multiHYP: I don't know how you got it to run before, I was of the assumption -Xstart...was always a requirement.
[12:13:39] <multiHYP> rcjsuen: you assumed that everytime someone exports a runnable jar file of his/her application, in order to run it, they have to open the terminal, navigate to that folder and add the argument -XstartOnFirstThread, are you kidding me?
[12:14:04] <rcjsuen> multiHYP: I mean, for SWT applications on Macs, I assumed that has always been a requirement since like at least 3.0.
[12:14:36] <multiHYP> no, it would work by just double clicking on it even on 3.4
[12:14:58] <multiHYP> now the mac os x app bundle export has a bug as well, what i have no idea
[12:14:59] <rcjsuen> regression then, file a bug
[12:15:07] <multiHYP> i won't
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[12:15:45] <multiHYP> rcjsuen: if it took me weeks to solve it, others have to go through the pain as well, or else developers will fix it as soon as they see fit
[12:16:37] <multiHYP> im going to use Qt in a while anyway...
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[12:35:16] <multiHYP> rcjsuen: i can't find the link that helped me up and running, but as far as i remember this has been filed as a bug sometime in 2008, the report number was 28....something. obviously the problem still persists, hence the solution that was given about a year ago, seemed helpful to me.
[12:36:01] <multiHYP> what is the swt widget that is located in the right hand side of the title bar of the eclipse ide called???
[12:36:09] <multiHYP> it is used to hide and reappear the toolbar items.
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[12:36:17] <multiHYP> under mac os x.
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[13:09:55] <philk_> when I have a win32 specific part of code that does not work on a Mac I create 2 fragments with a Eclipse-PlatformFilter in the MANIFEST.MF
[13:11:32] <philk_> however, the HOST bundle is not able to see the fragments code on any of the platforms. The manifests look like this: http://pastebin.com/m5ff0d652
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[13:13:34] <Dextorion> i installed galileo. The software sites is empy. Should i fill that im myself, or anything else i should do?
[13:13:46] <rcjsuen> Dextorion: How did you install it?
[13:14:38] <Dextorion> rcjsuen: To be honest, im not sure. Havent been home in a long while. But i imagine i just used ubuntus apt-get install eclipse
[13:14:45] <Dextorion> version is 3.5.1
[13:14:56] <rcjsuen> Dextorion: there's an entry in the faq (see channel topic) which explains why it's empty and i think there's a link to an update site
[13:15:28] <Dextorion> Ah. I'll check it out. Thanks alot
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[13:19:51] <nexsja> 'ello. Were there any issues with WIndows 7 and Eclipse?
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[13:20:09] <nexsja> I'm asking, 'cuz for an unknown reason Eclipse is running really slow for me under Windows 7 :<
[13:20:42] <nexsja> Although i've installed the latest Java Runtime engine :<
[13:20:42] <rcjsuen> I've heard ppl run it so I guess it's usable for them (since they use Eclipse every day).
[13:23:10] <nexsja> damn autocomplete lagging as hell, and even hangin up eclipse :<
[13:23:36] <rcjsuen> what language are you programming in anyway
[13:24:23] <nexsja> php
[13:24:37] <rcjsuen> dunno then, the ppl i know are using Eclipse for java dev
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[13:47:35] <jonkri_> how can i choose to call a method whenever i release the mouse button after having changed a Scale? i don't want to call the method for every value along the way
[13:48:32] <rcjsuen> use a mouseup listener?
[13:50:06] <jonkri_> hmm... and a key up listener
[13:50:11] <jonkri_> i guess that could work
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[14:42:36] <jonkri_> does this look correct to you, because the listener's handleEvent method doesn't get called: Scale scale = new Scale(this, SWT.BORDER); Listener listener = new Listener() { public void handleEvent(Event e) { ... } } scale.addListener(SWT.MouseDown, listener);
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[14:57:03] <jonkri_> nevermind, i had forgot to enable the console :)
[14:58:04] <simion314> hi, i am new to java and eclipse but i have experience with c++ and c#. I installed a tool(xuggler) on linux, i exported the variables that they said to export. Now i have no ideea how to make those classes availeble in my project. I opened /usr/local/xuggle and i found no .jar files there
[14:59:21] <rcjsuen> if you installed by hand (instead of thru distro) then you'd have to check their docs as to where it flew to
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[15:07:16] <mwg> Hi
[15:07:22] <mwg> Does anybody have an answer to this:
[15:07:23] <mwg> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=156645&start=0&S=749696823023ac93f6d52a8772a978c4
[15:08:15] <rcjsuen> the wiki has articles/code about databinding maybe something there will help
[15:09:05] <mwg> i've studied most of them
[15:09:25] <mwg> there doesn't seem to be any which really show how to syncronise viewers
[15:09:30] <mwg> (rather than just bind them)
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[15:26:21] <benc> which eclipse package do I need to install on ubuntu to develop for android?
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[16:08:32] <ech0s7> hi
[16:09:16] <ech0s7> It's possible to associate Save command of one project to run a shell script?
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[16:57:46] <venky10> Hi all. After indexing all files in a project. When I close Eclipse, will it index again?
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[17:10:17] <FauxFaux> Try it and see?
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[18:03:36] <venky10> FauxFaux: Well, turns out that it indexes after a certain interval. Even restart isn't required.
[18:04:21] <venky10> The problem is that I have a huge number of files and if it keeps indexing periodically, its slows down my system
[18:04:41] <lightpriest> how do I resolve dependency problems when installing from eclipse itself?
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[18:05:15] <lightpriest> it says a dependency of WST isn't statisfied, where do I find this WST to install it?
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[18:06:01] <lightpriest> .
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[18:28:45] <dob1> hi, when i pass the mouse on some method or class i see the javadoc for that class but only for classes of the jvm, how can i do the same for external jar library?
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[18:57:31] <genu> hey...what is the Galileo default update stite?
[18:57:59] <genu> when I go to install new software...the default galileo site is not there for some reason...what is the url...so I can add it?
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[19:09:30] <ralf_e> genu: http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo
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[19:42:24] <noxxik_> Hello
[19:42:27] <woozly> where Aptana channel?
[19:43:22] <noxxik_> I'm coding in eclipse, using java. But I have a question. What does this icon mean: http://i33.tinypic.com/jakpqc.jpg
[19:43:37] <noxxik_> The icon with S and F
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[20:02:13] <cubber> I am using eclipse Version: 3.4.0 Build id: I20080617-2000 on gentoo amd64 and am having an issue where my mouse is not working in the classic update window.  I cannot click on any buttons or open any items in tree view.
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[20:02:57] <cubber> I have rebuilt eclipse a few times and have wiped all of my settings.  This just started recently, the last time I was in eclipse I had no issues.
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[20:03:09] <ech0s7> hi
[20:03:14] <ech0s7> It's possible to associate Save command of one project to run a shell script?
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[20:20:15] <S1kx> is there a way to do duplicate lines without it selecting the previous line?
[20:20:22] <S1kx> i want it to copy the line and move the cursor to the next line
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[20:26:31] <fwaokda> after extracting eclipse classic what else do i need to do? How can I tell it where to look for JRE because it wont run because it currently can't find it
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[20:27:43] <rcjsuen> ~vm
[20:27:43] <Arbalest> To start Eclipse with a specific Java VM, you should start Eclipse with the -vm argument. This should look something like 'eclipse.exe -vm C:\jdk1.5.0.6\bin\java.exe' or './eclipse -vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.03/bin/java'. Note that the path of the 'java' executable is being passed and _not_ a folder.
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[20:50:45] <fwaokda> I'm trying to install the Android ADT plugin for Eclipse and I get this msg: Cannot complete the install because one or more required items could not be found. Software being installed: Android Development Tools 0.9.4.v200910220141-17704 --- Is there anything I can do about it or is it something that is currently down???
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[21:09:39] <ech0s7> It's possible to associate Save command of one project to run a shell script?
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[21:13:20] <FauxFaux> ech0s7: Custom builders.
[21:13:58] <ech0s7> FauxFaux: i would that when i save the project with SaveButton so eclipse launch my script
[21:14:07] <ech0s7> FauxFaux: with custom builders it's possible this ?
[21:14:31] <FauxFaux> Given the options are "ant" and "program", what do you think?
[21:15:13] <ech0s7> FauxFaux: i don't know
[21:15:22] <ech0s7> i have asked
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[21:17:14] <ech0s7> FauxFaux: i have to create new Builder? from Project->Builders->New or i  have to configure new External Tool ?
[21:21:55] <fwaokda> where can i find this... org.eclipse.gef 0.0.0   ???
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[21:27:50] <SyRenity> hi
[21:28:01] <SyRenity> any idea where i can ask the cdt devs a question?
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[21:28:50] <ech0s7> SyRenity: try here
[21:29:09] <SyRenity> cool. I'm trying to use latest eclipse / latest cdt with debugging an exec
[21:29:31] <SyRenity> all works
[21:29:42] <SyRenity> but i can't get how to set a breakpoints on files other then main
[21:30:00] <SyRenity> exe was not compiled with eclipse / cdt
[21:30:10] <SyRenity> i imported it via the import Exec wizard
[21:30:41] <SyRenity> the main is loaded becuase of the stop on main debug option
[21:30:48] <SyRenity> but i can't get to other files
[21:30:55] <SyRenity> if i open them manually and a set a point
[21:30:57] <SyRenity> i get the error
[21:31:10] <SyRenity> Breakpoint attribute problem: installation failed
[21:32:36] <SyRenity> any idea?
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[21:33:49] <SyRenity> otherwise i have to use insight/gdb, which is uncool
[21:35:08] <rcjsuen> ech0s7: when you make a new builder you're configuring a new externa ltool
[21:36:15] <ech0s7> rcjsuen: in my case i have to create an AntBuilder ?
[21:36:24] <rcjsuen> i thot you wanted a shell script
[21:36:40] <ech0s7> i would run a shell script when click on Save
[21:36:52] <rcjsuen> shell script !+ ant, I don't think
[21:36:56] <rcjsuen> unless AI'm misunderstanding something here
[21:38:27] <ech0s7> rcjsuen: so what i have to do ?
[21:38:42] <rcjsuen> when you click new in your build properties what do you see
[21:40:14] <ech0s7> rcjsuen: i view Ant Builder and Program
[21:40:21] <rcjsuen> then try 'Program'?
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[22:27:32] <JxMxL> is it recomended to install c++ dev tools next to java dev
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