[00:00:03] <rcjsuen> in the toolbar
[00:00:06] <rcjsuen> there's a toggle breadcrumb
[00:00:08] <rcjsuen> you can turn it off there
[00:01:13] <KWhat_Work> ahhh
[00:01:15] <KWhat_Work> there it is
[00:01:18] <KWhat_Work> thanks rcjsuen
[00:01:25] <rcjsuen> okilydokily
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[00:14:46] <dagnachew> please help i have issues transfer exception File Transport error
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[00:35:51] <digs> I am curious, I am running php-eclipse on windows7, I wanted to also have the cpp dev environment, do I just create two dir's for eclipse and start them seperately or do I merge them or what?
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[00:37:23] <rcjsuen> you can make separate or install the c/++ plug-in on top of your existing install
[00:38:01] <digs> okay thanks rcjsuen
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[01:45:21] <dagnachew> am having issues installing plugins
[01:45:24] <dagnachew> please help
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[04:12:19] <Mathuin> Finally got Eclipse running on my Asus Eee laptop.  It's the size of a postage stamp, but it can do Hello World.
[04:12:29] <Mathuin> (Ganymede, on FreeBSD)
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[05:33:05] <onats> hi, what's the difference between carbon and cocoa versions of eclipse for mac?
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[06:16:13] <nitind> onats: The same as the differences between Carbon and Cocoa.  There's no 64-bit Carbon.  There's no 32-bit 1.6 JRE.  See why you might just want to use Cocoa?
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[06:48:16] <mgeary> hi folks
[06:48:27] <mgeary> hey, i'm on a Mac and have a Q--
[06:49:16] <mgeary> in "normal" mac apps, Command+E will put the current text selection into your search buffer, and Command+G will do a "find next" on that search buffer.
[06:49:30] <mgeary> is there a way i can modify eclipse to do that?
[06:49:35] <onats> nitind, yeah i downloaded the cocoa copy for 32 bit
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[07:01:13] <Mathuin> Ugh.  Found a major deficiency in Eclipse with regard to Subversion.
[07:02:11] <Mathuin> I have project Foo.  It's in Subversion.  I have the trunk checked out.  I make a branch.  I want to check out the branch, but I can't have project Foo [trunk] and project Foo [branch] because they're both Foo in the workspace.
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[07:06:23] <nitind> Mathuin: Is there a check out as?
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[07:18:30] <rsrblm1> anyone awake?
[07:20:24] <Clemens> jepz
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[07:29:49] <nitind> ~ask
[07:29:49] <Arbalest> If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question. Skip the "meta-questions" like asking whether anyone uses X also as a precursor to check whether anyone can help you with a problem you have with X. Just ask the real question you have about X.
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[09:13:50] <CreatixEA> Hi, I'de like see the source of the plugin's manifest editor ... I try to navigate in the CVS repository but it's quite ... hum... By the way I can't find the right folder. Does anyone know where it is ?
[09:14:38] <CreatixEA> I think it's the PDE-UI plugin, but there are many folders ... src, src_Forms, srcnew ... Which is the good one ????$
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[10:13:29] <Neldo> how can i check in block-selection-mode where the cursor currently is ?
[10:16:19] <Neldo> if i type in my editor in block-selection-mode when the cursor is behind a line, it always jumps back to that line... so i want to prevent this behaviour by adding whitespaces... therefore i need to know where the cursor actually is
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[11:15:19] <guyzmo> hi, is there any eclim user/dev around ? I got a usage question
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[12:05:19] <bioskain> hi, does someone know how to export jar with javadoc included?
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[12:49:10] <GHReyes> jmimi: hi good morning
[12:50:04] <GHReyes> jmimi: unfortunately did not work add the JBoss libs
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[12:55:29] <jmimi> GHReyes : hi, good morning too, but here is afternoon :D
[12:55:57] <jmimi> GHReyes : you test with netbeens and everything is ok?
[12:56:59] <GHReyes> jmimi: yes, everything is ok
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[12:58:31] <jmimi> GHReyes : i read something denoted to pointed to persistency problems
[12:58:42] <jmimi> GHReyes : maybe your peoblem is the same so
[12:58:43] <rcjsuen> CreatixEA: Just use Plug-in Spy to find the class and then F3 around the classes from there.
[13:00:07] <GHReyes> jmimi: caused by the lack of a lib or a jar?
[13:00:14] <jmimi> GHReyes : maybe with cleaning and rebuilding everything becomes ok
[13:00:41] <GHReyes> build eclipse or jboss?
[13:00:48] <GHReyes> eclipse!
[13:00:58] <bushwakko> anyone here have an example of how to send an attachment with commons email, when it doesn't exist as a path on or an url? do I have to temporarily write it to disk?
[13:01:08] <jmimi> GHReyes : your project using eclipse
[13:01:25] <GHReyes> don't you?
[13:01:36] <jmimi> GHReyes : no
[13:02:15] <GHReyes> jmimi: I do not have a project started, I could start using eclipse
[13:02:35] <GHReyes> *could not
[13:03:11] <jmimi> GHReyes : ok, you have a project and want to run using eclipse, so you should build using eclipse and then run
[13:03:46] <jmimi> GHReyes : now i say that you clean project output and rebuild project
[13:03:57] <GHReyes> i want to start a proyect
[13:04:46] <rcjsuen> bushwakko: How is this related to Eclipse?
[13:04:54] <bushwakko> thought I had joined #java
[13:04:54] <jmimi> GHReyes : am i right? we have 3 thins : 1) eclipse 2) jboss 3) your project ?
[13:05:07] <bushwakko> stupid Colloquy client, doesn't give any feedback
[13:06:12] <bushwakko> but apparently it doesn't join it...
[13:06:13] <GHReyes> 1) eclipse 2) jboss 3) an idea to pursue a project
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[13:07:27] <GHReyes> Message error: Server JBoss v5.0 at B1842ZACU0000 was unable to start within 360 seconds. If the server requires more time, try increasing the timeout in the server editor.
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[13:08:11] <GHReyes> I can give eclipse 10 minutes and still not work
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[13:08:16] <jmimi> GHReyes : ok, so we are in misunderesting
[13:08:36] <jmimi> GHReyes : can you give me some times to try by own?
[13:08:47] <GHReyes> jmimi: of course !!!!
[13:09:28] <GHReyes> jmimi: ask me anything you want to reproduce the environmental conditions.
[13:09:33] <CreatixEA> rcjsuen: Hi, about decorators (in a new RCP application). I succeed to declare it but how can I tell my TableViewer to decorate labels with it ? I want to decorate using all declared decorator (so can't use DecoratingLabelProvider cause I've to specify only one decorator ...)
[13:09:45] <jmimi> GHReyes : ok
[13:09:55] <rcjsuen> using all declared decorators? "Declared"?
[13:10:21] <CreatixEA> rcjsuen: decorators that are declared in plugin.xml ...
[13:10:57] <rcjsuen> I think you need to set your label provider as the decorating one from the workbench
[13:11:43] <CreatixEA> Hum... Looking for it inside CVS
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[13:15:15] <jmimi> GHReyes : what is your eclipse version?
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[13:15:43] <GHReyes> jmimi: i download two: galleo & ganymedes
[13:16:00] <jmimi> ok
[13:16:15] <GHReyes> jmimi: both have the same problem
[13:16:43] <jmimi> GHReyes : http://ist.berkeley.edu/as-ag/tools/howto/jboss-eclipse.html
[13:16:51] <jmimi> GHReyes : do you see that site?
[13:17:28] * GHReyes see the link
[13:19:47] <CreatixEA> rcjsuen: I found, but it's using a Tree which only needs a ILabelProvider (one column) so it can use the DecoratingLabelProvider which I can't use because my label provider is a ITableLabelProvider (multiple columns ...) Any idea ?
[13:20:27] <rcjsuen> if you create separate column viewers you can still use it
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[13:21:17] <CreatixEA> hum... I should have one LabelProvider per column ?
[13:22:05] <rcjsuen> You can if you don't wanna use switch statements.
[13:22:06] <CreatixEA> Hum... TableColumn do not accept any setLabelProvider method :(
[13:22:27] <rcjsuen> That's an SWT API, so no it won't take JFace stuff
[13:22:50] <CreatixEA> >	if you create separate column viewers you can still use it <<<< so how ?
[13:23:22] <rcjsuen> open type, TVC
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[13:41:30] <bicky> anybody familiar with aptana?
[13:45:16] <rcjsuen> Better mileage asking on the Aptana forums?
[13:45:46] <bicky> yes, I think I'd better. Though my experience with IRC is that I'll get the answer way faster
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[14:25:52] <Sal> hello
[14:26:58] <Sal> is there a way to keep dot config and projects files in the workspace and projects in other directories?
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[14:27:15] <Sal> i mean a way to keep project folders clean from dot files
[14:29:10] <rcjsuen> no .proejct has to be in proj root
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[14:38:33] <Sal> rcjsuen: no workaround?
[14:38:46] <rcjsuen> Only workaround would be to compeltely use linked resources I guess.
[14:38:52] <paulweb515> Sal: it's design intent
[14:39:00] <Sal> i know, but it sux
[14:39:14] <paulweb515> Strangely enough, it's never bothered me
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[14:39:20] <Sal> because every time i have to upload the files, i have to deselect the damn dot files
[14:39:52] <Sal> it would be better if i could be able to select the entire folder and upload it instead of selecting files inside it
[14:40:00] <Sal> for example....
[14:41:05] <Sal> netbeans, at project creations, let you decide to put projects files in another dir
[14:41:40] <paulweb515> how odd
[14:41:46] <Sal> why?
[14:42:14] <Sal> in that way, you can have your projects files in the workspace and the projects dir with the sources under maybe a local webroot
[14:42:35] <rcjsuen> it's annoying for ftp'ing projects and php stuff i suppose
[14:43:06] <Sal> i think that the developers should stop looking at eclipse like a java IDE
[14:43:07] <paulweb515> Sal: you can do that ... you create your project in your workspace, but then "link" to the external directory (then your source lives where it's supposed to, and your eclipse meta files live where they are supposed to)
[14:43:32] <Sal> paulweb515: i haven't tried that
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[14:43:49] <Sal> i'm wondering if debugging would work that way
[14:44:06] <paulweb515> Sal: PHP developers that cared about this would have to make an effort to get commit rights on core.resources, figure out how to support both shapes, and implement it
[14:44:20] <paulweb515> Sal: I haven't see a lot of the PHP developers interested in the base platform
[14:44:29] <Sal> :)
[14:44:41] <paulweb515> Sal: but for what it's worth, there was interest in more flexibility from CDT (C/C++)
[14:44:43] <rcjsuen> at least pdt + aptana is joining hands anyway
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[14:45:20] <paulweb515> Sal: In 3.6 they implemented something called Flexible Resources (I'm not sure what it is, but they needed to support projects that don't conform to the standard java project pattern used by eclipse)
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[14:46:05] <Sal> i'm now using eclipse 3.2 for flex and netbeans for php
[14:46:17] <Sal> i would like to use a unique ide for my daily work
[14:46:49] <Sal> so i was just trying to find a solution for the only 2 things i hate of eclipse
[14:47:04] <Sal> (and that adobe with flex has changed)
[14:47:22] <Sal> the dot files in the project dir and...
[14:48:03] <Sal> the ability to save run and debug configuration in project files and not in eclipse files
[14:48:35] <magnet> dot files only bother people without a proper build/deployment process
[14:48:47] <Sal> because, now, if i have 3 php projects, all start with index.php, when i click on the debug button, it doesn't know which to start
[14:49:07] <Sal> magnet: what do you mean with that?
[14:49:19] <magnet> you're not supposed to ftp from your project folder in your workspace, there's a cleanup/deployment step.
[14:49:39] <Sal> there's another build/deplyment process that hides behind the actual one?
[14:49:57] <magnet> well I don't know about PDT & Aptana specifics
[14:49:58] <Sal> magnet
[14:50:03] <Sal> i'm talking about php
[14:50:30] <Sal> the project folder has to be unbder the local webroot to be able to run mysql and to be able to debug
[14:50:33] <magnet> and I am talking about any plugin making use of core.resources
[14:50:42] <Sal> i don't see any other clean step between that
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[14:51:05] <magnet> well there's a development platform (your PC), and a production platform on which you deploy
[14:51:35] <Sal> magnet: thats why i said before that eclipse developers should stop thinking of eclipse as a java IDE
[14:51:40] <magnet> a clean building/deployment process should remove stuff that's not needed (including the dot files)
[14:51:49] <Sal> thats the way a JAVA or a C/C++ compiler should work
[14:51:59] <magnet> I don't see how it's related to considering Eclipse tied to Java
[14:52:06] <Sal> but now a web project
[14:52:17] <magnet> it's up to the developers of PDT or WTP or who knows
[14:52:22] <Sal> a web project shopuld already stay in its "cleaned" folder
[14:52:29] <Sal> because it in a webroot dir
[14:52:47] <Sal> i can't make 2 web dirs for every project ai make
[14:53:01] <Sal> one with the dots and one without
[14:53:07] <magnet> Sal, it should be automatized by PDT or whatever Eclipse support for PHP you are using
[14:53:17] <Sal> but it aint
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[14:53:34] <fantomas> hi all
[14:53:40] <magnet> yes, so you are wrongly putting the blame on Eclipse developers, since the culprit is PDT & stuff
[14:53:58] <magnet> and the level of polishing is lower because it's newer / has less feedback I guess
[14:54:05] <NoobFukaure> I had to work with PDT a while ago
[14:54:15] <magnet> NoobFukaire, poor soul
[14:54:20] <Sal> NoobFukaire: and?
[14:54:23] <NoobFukaure> what I did was create a new apache directory mapped to my php project
[14:54:27] <NoobFukaure> in the apache config
[14:54:33] <Sal> OMG
[14:54:43] <fantomas> I have problem with debugging PHP website. First, I start debugging session, and it starts. But then I start getting incoming requests on new debug session, many of them. I debug real website. How to suppress sessions which I don't start?
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[14:55:23] <magnet> An EclipsePHP channel would be great :)
[14:55:26] <NoobFukaure> yes, PHP sucks greatly
[14:55:36] <NoobFukaure> it's a joke compared to something good, like Spring
[14:55:37] <Sal> hehehe
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[14:55:44] <fantomas> NoobFukaure: you sux really
[14:55:45] <fantomas> :)
[14:55:50] <fantomas> PHP just fine
[14:55:58] <NoobFukaure> have you ever used something good, like Spring?
[14:55:59] <NoobFukaure> :)
[14:56:01] <magnet> NoobFukaire, I can't understand why people use PHP with so many cool alternatives.
[14:56:04] <Sal> PHP is the best thing that web programmers could ask for
[14:56:11] <magnet> PHP is an abomination
[14:56:21] <Sal> nah
[14:56:25] <fantomas> NoobFukaure: no. what is Spring?
[14:56:42] <magnet> fantomas, an injection-dependency framework for Java
[14:56:43] <fantomas> stop holywars
[14:56:52] <fantomas> java? no thanks
[14:56:52] <NoobFukaure> it's really bigger than just web stuff, but web stuff is it's main use I believe
[14:56:54] <NoobFukaure> http://www.springsource.org/
[14:57:00] <Sal> simple, fast approach, no learning curve at all, what else do you want from a server side scripting language?
[14:57:12] <NoobFukaure> something that scales, is fast and powerful
[14:57:15] <magnet> dependency-injection .
[14:57:17] <fantomas> Sal: good framework? good CMF?
[14:57:22] <NoobFukaure> di and ioc = love
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[14:57:45] <Sal> fantomas: frameworks for just adding a couple of echoes in a web page?
[14:58:00] <Sal> i think you guys can't do nothing without a framework
[14:58:03] <magnet> Sal, well,a real typing system, proper language design, better syntax, etc
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[14:58:27] <fantomas> Sal: what echoes are you talking about? I mean a website programming/creating/building/configuring/styling etc
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[14:58:35] <NoobFukaure> I guess PHP might be better if you're just creating like a "hello world" app
[14:58:39] <Sal> magnet: we're talking about a server-side scripting language that was born to support web pages
[14:58:40] <fantomas> Sal: any good alternative to PHP except Python?
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[14:58:45] <NoobFukaure> but even a moderate application, I'd need something more
[14:58:59] <NoobFukaure> the reason I had to use php was to expose some web services to PHP devs
[14:59:02] <Sal> we're not talking about a "real langauge" (that is only C )
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[14:59:04] <magnet> Sal, that was born to make Rasmus' homepage
[14:59:08] <NoobFukaure> so see, I love you PHP devs, I think about you ;)
[14:59:23] <Norm> when i "run" a java project, is there a way to automatically kill an already-running version?
[14:59:24] <Sal> magnet: yes
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[14:59:29] <fantomas> Guys... who blame PHP. May I ask you a question? :)
[14:59:39] <fantomas> How Old Are You?
[14:59:48] <NoobFukaure> 26
[14:59:49] <Sal> magnet: so what we have now, thinking of how it was born, for me is a lot
[15:00:14] <NoobFukaure> honestly I didn't mean to start a flamewar about PHP, if it works for your purposes, I think that's great
[15:00:23] <fantomas> ok
[15:00:27] <magnet> Sal, yet, PHP is no DSL. It's a general language which doesn't even do what it's supposedly aiming at well.
[15:00:53] <fantomas> So, any ideas why xdebug + Eclipse start tens of sessions for every incoming page reload and how to get rid of them?
[15:00:53] <Sal> magnet, just to say that i hate OOP on php
[15:01:12] <rcjsuen> Norm: Prettty sure no.
[15:01:20] <Sal> because it wasn't made for that and because i think that OOP on server scripting is too heavy
[15:01:21] <Norm> rcjsuen: okay thanks
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[15:01:34] <Sal> i think that a function is thousand times faster and better
[15:01:43] <fantomas> true
[15:01:45] <Sal> i'm always talking about web page support
[15:01:56] <NoobFukaure> if you mean like templates, etc sure
[15:02:16] <NoobFukaure> but if you are writing an *application* the rules are no different than a desktop app
[15:02:19] <Sal> but, if you need to make a desktop app, or a web app (like flex and AIR do) then OOP is very useful
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[15:02:55] <magnet> "we have this really great language. How, that major feature which was the sole reason of an update that broke backwards compability sucks, but still the language is great. It's slower than most languages, had features standard in most languages lacking for years. You need a separate optimizer to get some performance out of it. But truly, it's really great."
[15:03:02] <fantomas> Sal: tell this to Drupal guys, who don't use OOP
[15:03:18] <Sal> :)
[15:03:19] <fantomas> Sal: and without that OOP Dupal feels just perfect
[15:03:23] <Sal> thats why i hae drupal
[15:03:26] <Sal> hate
[15:03:30] <fantomas> while I love it
[15:03:34] <Sal> nah
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[15:04:17] <Sal> i hate all cms
[15:04:29] <Sal> because at the end you go to use only 10% of them
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[15:04:38] <Sal> so i prefer making my own stuff
[15:04:46] <Sal> that does what i want and like i want
[15:04:56] <fantomas> hehe
[15:05:44] <Sal> the time i spend installing drupal, configuring it, finding the right add-ons, i have already made the core or my own project
[15:05:46] <fantomas> It seems, you like to reinvent a wheel. Ok, this is not a problem, if some abstract person likes to pay for this
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[15:06:17] <fantomas> Sal: tree-like comments, are you making them from scratch everytime? :)
[15:06:30] <Sal> "reinvent the wheel", i know, you young programmers love those words
[15:06:32] <Sal> hehehe
[15:06:42] <fantomas> 33, and you, dad?
[15:06:45] <Sal> fantomas: no
[15:07:04] <Sal> i have my db.php, functions.php, system.php, etc etc
[15:07:10] <Sal> and build from that
[15:07:36] <Sal> every programmer should have their set of base files
[15:07:46] <fantomas> :)
[15:07:51] <Sal> and start from them instead of always using others products
[15:08:03] <fantomas> .. or you someone's good code
[15:08:07] <fantomas> you/use
[15:08:17] <Sal> thats why today a virus make a pandemic
[15:08:33] <Sal> because we have all drupal, joomla and wordpress sites all over the web
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[15:09:14] <Sal> fantomas: i made my functions in years of programming and testing. and i'm satisfied with them
[15:09:24] <magnet> What is it with age and skill? Many younger programmers are better than older ones, and the opposite is just as true. It has to do with actual experience and curiosity. There are 40 years old programmers who started at 25 and 25 years old programmers who started at 5. There are some who are still stuck with C and C++ and refuse to see the alternatives. Those who will jump at anything new simply because of some hype article. There is no rule to judg
[15:09:24] <magnet> e from one's age.
[15:09:25] <fantomas> Sal: so, how old are you? and can you show me a website, which you done yourself using your approach?
[15:09:43] <Sal> fantomas: i do backend
[15:09:55] <fantomas> heh
[15:09:55] <Sal> so you wont see much
[15:10:49] <Sal> but, if you want to see some backend, i can let you share my desktop and let you see it
[15:10:59] <Sal> usually, backeds all have password access
[15:12:02] <torarne> Q: Using CDT I have two projects, A and L. A depends on L as a library. It seems that to be able to navigate from source code in A into code in L I have to add a project reference from A to L, but that also causes L to be built every time i build A. I do not want that, as I know when L has been updated and needs rebuild so I do that manually. Is there a way to achieve the code navigation without referencing the project, or a way to disable the build depend
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[15:14:49] <Sal> magnet: i agree
[15:18:02] <Sal> but i see a lot of guys today that download, install drupal, joomla or wordpress and then say that they're programmers
[15:18:24] <Sal> i have friends that build websites getting a piece from here and one from there
[15:18:45] <Sal> a jquery script, a php script, a nice template, some cool css.. and that it
[15:18:50] <Sal> they are programmers
[15:18:54] <Sal> :)
[15:19:02] <magnet> I don't see how that's bad. Integrating is a part of a programmer's job
[15:19:15] <Sal> :)
[15:19:29] <magnet> of course, it's way better when using an unified component model like OSGi, along with an dependency injection framework
[15:19:38] <rcjsuen> if they just unzip wordpress and call themselves a programmer maybe not
[15:19:43] <rcjsuen> but if they pick around i'd consider them programmers
[15:19:48] <Sal> ok, then the guy that has made the jquery framework, and the guy that has designed the template?
[15:19:54] <Sal> how do you call them?
[15:20:02] <fantomas> Sal: who cares except you?
[15:20:04] <Sal> programmers 5 stars?
[15:20:10] <nitind> You know, you guys have really wandered off topic.
[15:20:10] <fantomas> Sal: you see... there is a Task
[15:20:15] <fantomas> and there is need to solve it
[15:20:21] <Sal> oh, ok
[15:20:21] <nitind> Norm: Check the Console or Debug views, you should be able to stop it there.
[15:20:23] <fantomas> the time and money consumed on it - valuable
[15:20:25] <Sal> i got it
[15:20:27] <fantomas> ok
[15:20:43] <fantomas> But from point of view of Real Old School Hacker - you are right
[15:20:44] <rcjsuen> Norm: in the 'Debug' view it's also possible to terminate & relaunch tho you can't use Ctrl+F11 then :(
[15:20:45] <Sal> its the copy&paste generation
[15:21:05] <fantomas> Sal: so I understand what you mean. And yes, they are not real programmers :)
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[15:21:27] <Norm> rcjsuen: will check that out, thanks
[15:21:38] <rcjsuen> you use the context menu for that
[15:21:45] <Sal> ok, have to install the pdt plugin on my flex IDE
[15:21:50] <Sal> or i will try to
[15:21:51] <Sal> :)
[15:21:56] <Sal> niec chat guys
[15:21:57] <Sal> thanks
[15:22:00] <Sal> nice
[15:22:13] <delt0r> anyone here using the TPTP profiling in eclipse?
[15:24:49] <fantomas> Sal: imho, there is a thing with todays web programming which should be considered. In desktop programming, you could create a program from scratch, and let ppl use it. For this, you just need to know programming lang, for example C, C++, Object Pascal, Java
[15:25:15] <fantomas> Sal: in web world, to get something running, you have to deal with many technologies
[15:26:52] <fantomas> and this makes to erm.. (let me see in dictionary) to digress on those many things :)
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[15:28:40] <fantomas> additional tasks which arise, except using programming language - design, cssizing, htmlizing, webserver configuration, scripting
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[15:35:44] <Sal> fantomas: thats why i'm using a "desktop programming OOP"-like language for the web
[15:35:45] <Sal> :)
[15:36:01] <Sal> no need to mess with hundreds of things
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[15:36:26] <fantomas> Sal: which language?
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[15:36:40] <Sal> amd with the same source, i can deply to sub-mac-linux-win desktops or web
[15:36:47] <Sal> deploy
[15:36:51] <Sal> Adobe Flex
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[15:38:04] <Sal> [15:44]	Sal: amd with the same source, i can deply to sub-mac-linux-win desktops or web = and with the same source i can deploy to sub, mac, linux and win desktops or to the web
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[15:38:12] <Sal> :)
[15:38:20] <fantomas> Adobe Flex generating .swf?
[15:38:27] <Sal> yep
[15:38:36] <dob1> hi, when i double click on a field, a word like boolean, String, or whatever the editor hilight all the occurence of that word, this is ok, but then how can i turn off this?  if i click on another word i get this highligh too,  it's a bit difficult to explain
[15:39:07] <magnet> Shift+Alt+O
[15:39:58] <dob1> nice
[15:40:01] <dob1> thanks
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[15:41:03] <dob1> magnet: in the menu, where is this ?  to find the name of this function
[15:41:12] <fantomas> Sal: as far as I can judge, flash is not considered as appropriate for web. It is for games, movies.
[15:41:26] <Sal> hey guys, installing the pdt plugin, its asks for wst. where the heck is that? i can't find it
[15:41:46] <magnet> dob1, it is in the "coolbar", the marker icon
[15:42:01] <fantomas> Sal: and for adv and banners :)
[15:42:02] <Sal> fantomas: things change like you said before
[15:42:05] <dob1> magnet: ah ok!
[15:42:26] <fantomas> Sal: google is able to index .swf nowadays? :)
[15:42:44] <Sal> no
[15:42:54] <fantomas> darn!
[15:42:56] <Sal> but it can index the <noembed> tag
[15:42:56] <fantomas> :)
[15:43:19] <Sal> so, you just have to create a 1 page containing the most important things of your site
[15:43:28] <Sal> and thats it
[15:43:40] <Sal> actionscript has deeplinking
[15:43:51] <Sal> so you have create links to jump insode your swf
[15:44:00] <fantomas> and that page is having all huge stuff of css, html, javscripting etc...:)
[15:44:07] <Sal> nop
[15:44:11] <Sal> simply text
[15:44:19] <Sal> what google indexes
[15:44:21] <Sal> :)
[15:44:36] <fantomas> no, this is wrong. Flash must die. SVG rocks.
[15:44:47] <Sal> yeah, i like svg too
[15:44:47] * fantomas dances on the dead body of IE and Flash
[15:44:55] <Sal> but nobody is supporting it
[15:44:57] <fantomas> :(
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[15:45:17] <Sal> i would put ff in that list too
[15:45:18] <Sal> :)
[15:45:36] <fantomas> me too, for its 'performance'
[15:45:39] <Sal> there is chrome that is growing up fast
[15:45:45] <fantomas> but... we all know... plugins.. addons..
[15:45:55] <Sal> and just can't wait to get my hands on chrome OS
[15:46:18] <fantomas> Yeah, +1. I would send money to Google, to get Chrome addons faster :)
[15:47:13] <Sal> http://www.niharsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Chrome-OS-Screenshot-1.jpg
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[15:49:30] <GHReyes> hi, my problem is solved, thanks to jmimi
[15:49:53] <Sal> jmimi +
[15:50:00] <GHReyes> was an issue with /etc/hosts
[15:50:01] <fantomas> Sal: Aaaah, can't wait 2!
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[15:50:54] <GHReyes> Ubuntu defined 127.0.0.1 to localhost and 127.0.1.1 to hostname
[15:51:50] <GHReyes> Or define hostname = localhost to jboss or change /etc/host adding <hostname> in line 127.0.0.1
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[15:52:36] <jmimi> Sal : you can find WST in http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/updates/
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[15:52:40] <jmimi> bye all
[15:55:11] <Sal> jey, where can i find the wst link to insert inside eclipse updater?
[15:55:16] <Sal> jey=hey
[15:57:08] <magnet> 2 lines above?
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[15:59:04] <rcjsuen> should just be on the ganymede/galileo site that came with your Eclipse installation i would think
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[16:04:22] <Sal> magnet: nop, i get error using that
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[16:04:44] <Sal> rcjsuen: can't find it
[16:04:45] <Sal> :(
[16:04:53] 
[16:04:56] <Sal> flex
[16:05:04] <rcjsuen> that would be the uh, europa update site then i guess
[16:05:10] <rcjsuen> tho i don't think it would just be called "wst"
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[16:14:10] <Sal> rcjsuen: http://screencast.com/t/LjYiOwjrZ
[16:14:35] <Sal> from there i select Europa and pdt and click next
[16:15:03] <Sal> no, sorry
[16:15:23] <rcjsuen> what PDT ver is that anyway
[16:15:27] <Sal> http://screencast.com/t/zib2YFppMqS
[16:15:33] <Sal> thats the message i get
[16:15:49] <Sal> and europe doesn't have wst or wtp or web tools
[16:16:17] <nitind> Sure it does.
[16:16:19] <nitind> Did.
[16:16:30] <Sal> http://screencast.com/t/lnf5I8yP7eIt
[16:16:37] <Sal> there you can see the version of pdt
[16:17:09] <Sal> nitind: and you can see the content of europa
[16:17:14] <rcjsuen> did you click 'Select Required'?
[16:17:23] <rcjsuen> the button on the right
[16:17:27] <nitind> PDT requires WST, so it had to be there.  But that was over two years ago.
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[16:19:49] <Sal> let me see
[16:20:15] <Sal> rcjsuen: just did it, nothing happen
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[16:21:05] <Sal> PDT Feature (1.0.5.v20081126-1856) requires feature "org.eclipse.wst (3.0.0)", or compatible.
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[16:21:52] <rcjsuen> if it wants 3.0
[16:21:56] <rcjsuen> then you need eclipse 3.4
[16:22:20] <rcjsuen> should've looked at the screenshots more closely, sorry about that
[16:23:39] <Sal> and how can i get a previous version of pdt?
[16:24:18] <Sal> ok, got it
[16:24:33] <Sal> i un checked "show the latest..."
[16:24:39] <nitind> 3.0 was for Ganymede, though.  How does a PDT in Europa prereq that?
[16:24:39] <Sal> and i got pdt 1.03
[16:25:04] <Sal> it asked for wst 2.0.0
[16:25:11] <Sal> clicked on europa and i got it
[16:25:13] <Sal> :)
[16:25:16] <rcjsuen> so in 1.0.5 it asked for 3.0
[16:25:19] <rcjsuen> and in 1.0.3 it asks for 2.0
[16:25:21] <rcjsuen> makes no sense but okay
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[16:25:53] <Sal> :)
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[16:26:05] <Sal> there are a lot of thinks in eclipse that have no sense
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[16:43:34] <KWhat4> what was that image paste bin you guys use
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[16:44:23] <rcjsuen> ~imagebin
[16:44:24] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
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[16:55:25] <ecfuser13243> ikik
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[16:55:46] <hdon> i keep getting a java heap space error. should i increase my java heap space allowance or something?
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[16:57:40] <rcjsuen> That would be a good start I guess
[16:57:42] <rcjsuen> ~memory
[16:57:42] <Arbalest> Having memory problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
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[17:00:16] <hdon> rcjsuen: thanks, i'll check thos eout
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[17:01:20] <hdon> rcjsuen: for a reference point, do you happen to know what the default heap space available to eclipse is?
[17:01:31] <hdon> or is that dependent on my system configuration?
[17:01:37] <rcjsuen> check your eclipse.ini file i guess
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[17:09:22] <hdon> i have a .cproject and a .project file which both seem to be eclipse project files in some superficial capacity... how do i open them?
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[17:11:08] <rcjsuen> It's very rare for me to want to open those files.
[17:11:12] <rcjsuen> When I do I use the 'Navigator' I guess.
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[17:11:26] <hdon> how do i get to the "Navigator?"
[17:11:36] <hdon> i see a Navigate menu
[17:13:15] <hdon> do you just mean, like... Mac Finder / MSWindows Explorer / Gnome Nautilus etc.?
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[17:16:08] <magnet> within Eclipse: Window > Show View > Others > filter on Navigator
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[17:16:44] <silici0> where is the conf files for eclipse in linux ?
[17:17:05] <magnet> silici0, define "linux"
[17:17:42] <silici0> ubuntu
[17:18:05] <magnet> Eclipse that shipped with Ubuntu?
[17:18:14] <hdon> magnet: thanks
[17:18:18] <hdon> my navigator is empty
[17:18:45] <magnet> hdon, do you have any projects in your workspace?
[17:19:42] <hdon> magnet: no, i am trying to open a project, but i am new to eclipse, so my ideas about what constitute an eclipse project (in terms of their file representation on disk) are quite limited. i only know that i have found these two files, .project and .cproject which look an awful lot like what i want, but i can't figure out how to use them :(
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[17:20:07] <magnet> hdon, you're not supposed to use them, Eclipse manages them for you
[17:20:23] <rcjsuen> File > Import I guess then
[17:20:26] <hdon> magnet: well, how do i open an eclipse project?
[17:20:27] <magnet> If you want to open an existing project, you can't just copy/paste it in your workspace
[17:20:38] <magnet> there's some metadata involved, do as rcjsuen just said :)
[17:20:42] <magnet> Import from filesystem
[17:20:47] <hdon> i am attempt to assume as little as possible about this process, so feel free to tell me what to do
[17:21:02] <hdon> ok i'll try that
[17:21:13] <hdon> i have to choose an import source
[17:21:23] <hdon> ah, existing project!
[17:21:26] <magnet> that's it
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[17:23:49] <hdon> rcjsuen, magnet: thanks a lot for your help :)
[17:24:58] <hdon> if there are any eclipse devs in the channel, it might be worth noting that to an experienced programmer, the process of just opening a project in eclipse for the first time seems a little esoteric
[17:26:26] <hdon> that was weird... i was reading warnings in the Problems tab and they suddenly vanished :(
[17:26:52] <magnet> they vanish only if you change the selection (or solve them, or filter them out)
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[17:27:34] <hdon> well, i don't think any of those things happened. i wasn't interacting with my mouse or keyboard except to resize the columns so i could read the warnings
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[17:27:47] <hdon> maybe i tapped something accidentally
[17:28:30] <hdon> ugh... it seems like eclipse is spidering my entire /usr/include and /usr/local/include directory... hmm...
[17:28:45] <hdon> is it possible to create symlinks from the eclipse navigator?
[17:28:53] <magnet> CDT might index your libs
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[17:29:18] <hdon> i followed instructions to create some symlinks in the project's directory structure, but maybe they meant for me to make them from the Eclipse IDE somehow and then i figure it might have asked me if i wanted them to be part of the build process
[17:29:26] <hdon> i did see the context menu option to exclude them from the build
[17:29:45] * hdon sighs
[17:29:54] <hdon> magnet: yes i am using CDT
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[17:56:25] <hdon> well THIS could have been EASILY CATASTROPHIC
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[17:58:50] <hdon> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/680070
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[18:01:18] <hdon> using eclipse is the first time i thought i'd need more than 2GB RAM :(
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[18:31:18] <zmanning> hey guys i just upgraded to the most recent eclipse, why is it always 'initializing index...'????
[18:31:21] <zmanning> on every save
[18:31:31] <zmanning> ui is frozen during it
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[18:42:52] <zmanning> anyone at least know how i can see what tasks have been run?
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[18:48:15] <nitind> zmanning: You mean the Progress View?
[18:48:42] <zmanning> well the process view doesnt show the actual task, just the name
[18:49:08] <nitind> Then I'm not sure what you're asking for.
[18:49:11] <zmanning> ugh you know this is probably an app wide issue as everything is incredibly slow
[18:49:22] <zmanning> i just upgraded to cocoa 64
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[18:50:40] <zmanning> nitind: for example, progress view just says 'initializing index'.  that doesnt give me any info on what the task actually is
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[18:51:00] <nitind> zmanning: Only because whatever started that job chose a very poor name.
[18:51:00] <krbarnes> zmanning: there are a couple bugs regarding slowness on cocoa... ~285175 ~290449
[18:51:03] <Arbalest> Bug 285175 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=285175 - Platform / SWT / 3.5 - Macintosh / Mac OS X - Cocoa - NEW / normal / - Assignee: swt-triaged - [Widgets] \eclipse hangs for ~15 seconds when opening a new file
[18:51:05] <Arbalest> Bug 290449 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=290449 - Platform / SWT / 3.6 - Macintosh / Mac OS X - Cocoa - NEW / normal / - Assignee: swt-triaged - [Widgets] Beachballs appear when switching perspectives, views, editors
[18:51:41] <zmanning> krbarnes: :(
[18:52:15] <krbarnes> zmanning: try switching to 32 bit
[18:52:26] <zmanning> yea seems like im gonna have to
[18:52:57] <krbarnes> actually, before you shut down, can you open activity monitor and tell me how many threads eclipse is running?
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[18:53:23] <krbarnes> guess not
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[18:53:42] <zmanning> krbarnes: sure one sec
[18:54:58] <zmanning> ah dang i had closed it
[18:55:03] <torarne> what's that bot posting bugs to the channel running? looks neat
[18:55:06] <zmanning> but its running 55 after opening it up and opening a file
[18:55:22] <torarne> arbalest: who are you? :)
[18:55:49] <krbarnes> zmanning: that seems high. Do you have any non-SDK plugins installed.
[18:55:55] <zmanning> Arbalest is just an intern :)
[18:56:09] <torarne> :)
[18:56:41] <zmanning> krbarnes: yea, aptana, hibernate tools, testng, maven
[18:56:57] <krbarnes> torarne: Arabalest is rcjuen's baby
[18:57:18] <torarne> krbarnes: thanks!
[18:57:22] <torarne> rcjsuen: ping :)
[18:58:01] <krbarnes> zmanning: thanks... not sure how to use that data, but it's interesting nevertheless
[18:58:38] <zmanning> yea im just kinda systematically uninstalling things to see what gives me some stability back
[18:58:46] <zmanning> aptana seems to be the biggest plugin
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[19:08:19] <rcjsuen> torarne: ?
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[19:12:08] <torarne> rcjsuen: your bugzilla-irc-bot looks nice! :) what is it running? any sources to share? :)
[19:12:16] <rcjsuen> ~wiki IRC bot
[19:12:16] <Arbalest> Check out this wiki article - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_bot
[19:12:25] <rcjsuen> tho might be outdated in some regards
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[19:13:01] <torarne> cool, thanks! :)
[19:13:44] <zmanning> rcjsuen: regard*
[19:14:06] <zmanning> no kick no kick no kick <crosses fingers>
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[19:18:01] <arthurh> Anyone aware of any caveats of running 64 bit pure SWT apps on cocoa?  Tried to port a small app I had from a windows machine, and on MacOS X it barfs all over the place with classes being autoreleased with "no pool in place - just leaking".
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[19:18:39] <neekers> how do i view the web page editor?
[19:18:54] <rcjsuen> arthurh: Sounds like a major bug to me. krbarnes?
[19:19:29] <krbarnes> arthurh: are you starting the VM with -XstartOnFirstThread?
[19:19:34] <arthurh> rcjsuen: Here's a quick synopsis of pretty much the exact thing I'm seeing
[19:19:41] <arthurh> krbarnes: yes
[19:19:56] <arthurh> krbarnes: no luck there either.
[19:19:59] <rcjsuen> so you just use swt no jface no rcp righ
[19:20:25] <krbarnes> arthurh: that can happen if an exception happens in a bad place
[19:20:33] <arthurh> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1567144/cant-get-swt-display-on-mac-os-x
[19:20:38] <neekers> ahh, open an htm page
[19:20:51] <arthurh> rcjsuen: Yeah, the weird part is that an RCP Plugin app works fine
[19:21:07] <neekers> thank you for your support.
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[19:21:22] <GHReyes> Hi, i hace a issue with p2, i cant contact repositories behind proxy with auth. I set proxy (host & port) and user/pwd, but didnt work
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[19:21:41] <arthurh> krbarnes: Can you elaborate on that at all?  There are no exceptions thrown on any other platform --
[19:21:54] <GHReyes> The connection preferences are correct.
[19:25:00] <krbarnes> arthurh: can't really elaborate... if there are no exceptions that's not the problem.
[19:25:44] <krbarnes> arthurh: do the SWT snippets run for you? http://www.eclipse.org/swt/snippets
[19:25:57] <GHReyes> Hi, i hace a issue with p2, i cant contact repositories behind proxy with auth. I set proxy (host & port) and user/pwd, but didnt work
[19:27:53] <paulweb515> GHReyes: what kind of proxies are you behind?  I think there were NTLM/NTLMv2 problems with 3.5.x
[19:28:45] <GHReyes> hmmm is a net Win complaint :P
[19:28:52] <GHReyes> use NTLM
[19:29:12] <arthurh> kbarnes: haven't tried.. brb..
[19:29:59] <GHReyes> paulweb515: i tested with domain\user and user
[19:30:32] <paulweb515> GHReyes: what version of eclipse are you using?  there was a problem with NTLM and 3.5.x
[19:30:57] <GHReyes> paulweb515: last version
[19:31:06] <GHReyes> Galileo
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[19:31:22] <paulweb515> GHReyes: yes, that's 3.5 ... so it includes the problem with NTLM and p2
[19:31:39] <GHReyes> sh@t!
[19:31:43] <paulweb515> ~281472
[19:31:46] <Arbalest> Bug 281472 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281472 - Equinox / p2 / 3.5 - PC / Windows XP - RESOLVED / DUPLICATE / major / - Assignee: equinox.p2-inbox - [Net] You can't update Eclipse 3.5 behind the proxy
[19:31:50] <paulweb515> GHReyes: there might be a workaround on that bug
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[19:32:10] <paulweb515> workaround: http://wiki.eclipse.org/ECF_Filetransfer_Support_for_NTLMv2_Proxies
[19:32:20] <GHReyes> I use Ubuntu, not XP
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[19:32:59] <paulweb515> GHReyes: so your proxies don't use NTLM?
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[19:33:27] <GHReyes> paulweb515: my proxy? i think yes
[19:33:40] <GHReyes> my workstation use ubuntu
[19:33:45] <paulweb515> .... so try the workaround
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[19:36:35] <GHReyes> paulweb515: In what file should I make changes?
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[19:42:15] <paulweb515> GHReyes: if you want to make it permanent, you would add it to your eclipse.ini file (after the -vmargs line ... one entry per line)
[19:42:57] <GHReyes> paulweb515: in ECLIPSE_HOME/configuration/config.ini ?
[19:43:19] <paulweb515> GHReyes: ECLIPSE_HOME/eclipse.ini I would imagine
[19:43:33] <GHReyes> okey
[19:43:37] <arthurh> krbarnes: Apparently, you can't instantiate an org.eclipse.swt.Display object in a "non-first" -thread on OSX ;)  What gives?
[19:44:11] <krbarnes> arthurh: that's true... Ask Apple about that.
[19:44:49] <krbarnes> arthurh: that's a platform limitation.
[19:45:26] <arthurh> krbarnes: god I hate apple.
[19:45:42] <arthurh> krbarnes: thanks for the help!
[19:45:47] <krbarnes> arthurh: careful, the cult is strong
[19:45:49] <krbarnes> :D
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[19:50:54] <zmanning> krbarnes: it was the aptana studio
[19:51:38] <krbarnes> zmanning: wow... have you ever run it on another platform?
[19:52:03] <krbarnes> wondering if it's generally slow, or exposing slowness in cocoa
[19:52:06] <zmanning> yea i used to run aptana standalone on linux
[19:52:12] <zmanning> havent tested this case though
[19:52:18] <zmanning> its the initializing index thing
[19:52:20] <zmanning> whatever its doing
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[19:52:27] <zmanning> http://svn.aptana.com/svn/aptana/aptana/ide_suite/trunk/php/plugins/com.aptana.ide.editor.php/src/com/aptana/ide/editor/php/indexer/PHPGlobalIndexer.java
[19:52:53] <krbarnes> zmanning: I see. Thanks for letting me know
[19:52:53] <nitind> zmanning: Best report it to them, then.
[19:53:00] <zmanning> if i could make changes i would rename the 'Initializing Index' job
[19:53:11] <zmanning> oh yea i know its just cause we were tlaking about it
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[20:00:29] <arthur_sr> hey everybody, does anyone know about some tutorial about the ant tool?
[20:02:23] <NoobFukaure> jfgi
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[20:08:10] <rhk> has anyone here worked with Xtext?
[20:10:28] <rhk> I've created a DSL using Xtext, and used Xtend to modify the generated ecore model to add some EOperations to my classes, but I'm not sure how to set it up so that it will use my implementation of the methods. I wanted to use the generation gap pattern, but it seems that the factory only creates instances of the generated FooImpl, and I'm not sure how to get it to use my FooConcrete class instead
[20:10:43] <rhk> is there some sort of annotation or property I can set in the ecore model that will let me control what the package factory produces?
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[20:12:57] <GHReyes> paulweb515: see this http://svnkit.com/kb/user-guide-config-settings.html, section "SVN+SSH authentication with private key in Eclipse"
[20:13:11] <FurnaceBoy> ola. Dumb question. if I have a Make Target set in a subdir of project, why isn't make using that as current directory when i Build the target?
[20:13:27] <FurnaceBoy> (C/C++ project)
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[20:30:04] <rcjsuen> arthur_sr: Ant "tool"?
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[20:46:10] <arthur_sr> [rcjsuen]: i don't know how to call it well, but i have to create a build xml using ant, do u jnow how to do it?
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[20:47:49] <rcjsuen> Think ant.apache.org has some tutorials I imagine.
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[20:53:32] <arthur_sr> [rcjsuen]: thanks
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[20:55:19] <purestrain> hi! i know many people ask for it and i've been searching a lot: what recommendations exists for keeping settings in multiple workspaces?
[20:56:31] <purestrain> could a hardlink (.metadata) work ?
[20:57:21] <purestrain> or is the best way to manage many different projects with workingsets ?
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[21:02:33] <pulse00> hi all. i'm having a problem deploying a plugin as a feature. i've created a simple plugin through on of the new plugin wizard templates, which contributes a new popup menu item for IResources in the project explorer. the menu entry appears when i run the plugin from within eclipse, but when i export it as a feature and install the feature into another eclipse app, the menu entry doesn't show up.  has anyone a hint what i'm doing wrong ?
[21:02:41] <FurnaceBoy> purestrain: personally I would use a single workspace if possible ... i usually have dozens of projects in one. What's your need for multiple ws?
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[21:03:18] <nitind> pulse00: Plug-ins and Features are two different things.  If you want to install as a feature, you actually need to *make* a Feature.
[21:04:12] <pulse00> nitind, i've created 2 projects, a plugin project which contributes the menu entry, and a feature project, where i selected the plugin project, and then exported the feature.
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[21:06:07] <pulse00> what's weird though, that the plugin has version 1.0.0, and on the Plug-Ins tab of the feature.xml, the selected plugin shows up with version 0.0.0, and a download/installation size of 0kb
[21:07:19] <pulse00> nitind, by 'make' a Feature, do you mean creating a feature project and add the plugin to it ?
[21:07:56] <nitind> pulse00: well, yes.  It didn't sound like you'd done that at first.
[21:08:09] <Mathuin> I don't have room on my screen for the toolbar with the icons and the toolbar with the text above.  Any way I can merge them or shrink them or something?
[21:08:55] <purestrain> FurnaceBoy, seemed more natural to me; but i guess workingsets could do the work too
[21:13:25] <rcjsuen> purestrain: I use different workspaces myself. Though in the ws I also use working sets ;p
[21:13:47] <pulse00> nitind, so the way i did it would be correct ?
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[21:15:51] <nitind> pulse000: Couldn't say.  I've messed that up many times myself.
[21:16:23] <purestrain> and can i tweak the variable naming suggestions? for instance, i've configured to trigger autocomplete at every character, but variable naming suggestions are not that good
[21:16:46] <pulse000> any idea what's the difference between the export options "Deployable features" and "Deployable plug-ins and fragments" ?
[21:16:48] <rcjsuen> if you could it would be in the prefs
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[21:17:52] <Kuprin> Hey eclipse guys, I just got 3.5.1. Nice build, but for some reason the Install New Software menu's back/next buttons don't work for the mouse at all. I can SOMETIMES select them and press enter, but the dialogs are generally really buggy. I'm on a fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10, in XFCE, amd64. Java version is 6-15-1.
[21:18:07] <Kuprin> Haven't tried Ganymede yet, downloading it now to see what it does.
[21:18:08] <rcjsuen> Kuprin: see faq in channel topic
[21:18:55] <d_a_carver> pulse000: are you talking about this: http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.pde.doc.user/guide/tools/export_wizards/export_features.htm
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[21:22:34] <GHReyes> paulweb515: didnt work workaraond to solve NTLMv2
[21:22:36] <GHReyes> :(
[21:22:46] <pulse000> d_a_carver, yes
[21:23:34] <pulse000> i don't understand why the version of the selected plugins in my feature project shows "0.0.0" and 0kb download size.
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[21:24:55] <d_a_carver> pulse000: that means it will take whatever is the most current version.
[21:25:14] <pulse000> i see
[21:25:23] <d_a_carver> pulse000: you typically don't need to specify the version, unless you specically only want to include a specific version.
[21:25:59] * d_a_carver has been messing way to much with features, p2, and builds the last two months.
[21:28:10] <Kuprin> so far it looks like everything works fine in Ganymede, and Galileo was just released a bit prematurely
[21:28:33] <Kuprin> Correction, it just locked up, looks like it's something with the java VM
[21:28:36] <cichlasoma> hi. I haven't been using eclipse for some time and now I can remember how I disable content assist appearig in pop-up without being called by ctrl+space. I'm in PyDev, don't know whether it matters...
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[21:29:05] <cichlasoma> ("I CANNOT remember" - sorry)
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[21:29:51] <d_a_carver> Kuprin: 3.5.1 you need to follow this for now. http://www.norio.be/blog/2009/10/problems-eclipse-buttons-ubuntu-910
[21:30:51] <Kuprin> d_a_carver, sweet, thanks mate. That's what I needed, and it looks like to a lesser degree it's happening in 3.4.2 as well
[21:31:07] <pulse000> how can i check if the plugins, contained in a feater, are available to the eclipse product where the feature is installed ?
[21:31:23] <d_a_carver> Kuprin: yeah, anything before 3.6M2 will have the issue.
[21:31:53] <cichlasoma> (I'm sorry, I've found it. It IS PyDev-specific.)
[21:32:08] <d_a_carver> pulse000: try http://iacobus.blogspot.com/2009/04/eclipse-pde-target-platform.html
[21:32:40] <pulse000> thanks for the link
[21:32:47] <Kuprin> d_a_carver, gotcha, thanks for the help, the workaround should be fine, though how far along is 3.6? Is it worth it for me to just grab that?
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[21:33:58] <d_a_carver> Kuprin: it's as stable as any milestone.   Which is usually pretty good for eclipse stuff (usually a lot better than most projects).
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[21:36:19] <pulse000> d_a_carver, i've read the post, but i'm not sure if it's what i'm after. all i am trying to do is to export a simple template plugin, which contributes a popup menu, and install it into another eclipse product. it seems i'm too dumb for this task ;)
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[21:37:21] <pulse000> i've made 3 simple steps: 1. create a plugin-project from the popup-menu template. 2. create a feature project, and add the plugin in the feature.xml. 3. export the feature.
[21:37:44] <pulse000> shouldn't this work?
[21:37:46] <Kuprin> d_a_carver, ugh, now Galileo is saying SSE is missing and it won't install my plugins ><
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[21:39:27] <nitind> Kuprin: Galileo, or a 3.6 milestone?
[21:39:45] <Kuprin> nitind, Galileo
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[21:48:20] <Kuprin> Got everything configured on Ganymede, guess I'll keep using it
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[21:55:24] <pulse000> is there any other way to deploy a really basic plugin to another eclipse installation without creating a feature ?
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[21:57:13] <FurnaceBoy> anyone familiar with Make targets? If i create one in a project subdir, shouldn;'t that subdir be the working dir for the make?
[21:57:29] <FurnaceBoy> (atm they behave like a root level make)
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[22:40:44] <ech0s7> hi
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[22:42:42] <ech0s7> i have created a web static project (with only index.html in WebContent), but when i publish the project in /srv/http (where i have server), eclipse go in error: It say "Error copying file index.html" No such file or directory
[22:42:49] <ech0s7> but it exists
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[22:43:56] <ech0s7> anyone can help me ?
[22:46:00] <dilton> ech0s7 make sure you have write access to that directory
[22:46:09] <ech0s7> yes i have
[22:46:24] <ech0s7> dilton: eclipse create the directory
[22:46:27] <ech0s7> but not the files
[22:46:46] <ech0s7> eclipse creates all directory
[22:46:52] <ech0s7> but wihout files in
[22:47:00] <dilton> odd
[22:47:51] <ech0s7> dilton: one moment, i show you a video
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[22:50:06] <dilton> ech0s7 I just mentioned something to check, no time to watch videos
[22:50:45] <dilton> ech0s7 see if there's a bug listed for what you are seeing
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[23:02:33] <ech0s7> if anyone can help me for my problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlLs3USdbyo
[23:03:45] <ech0s7> this is the video
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[23:04:00] <_j4zz_> hello all
[23:04:46] <_j4zz_> is it possible to enlarge the fonts of package explorer? I'm on mac and the fonts are too damn small
[23:05:08] <rcjsuen> that's an OS setting
[23:05:30] <_j4zz_> can it be changed?
[23:05:38] <rcjsuen> beats me, I don't use a Mac
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[23:09:09] <electricfeel> Hmm, does anyone know why Eclipse (and only Eclipse)_ would not be able to access the internet?
[23:09:37] <_j4zz_> firewall?
[23:09:38] <electricfeel> (It just says "No repository found for ... " for each of the dfefault sites)
[23:09:53] <electricfeel> I use eclispe on windows and mac and it works fine. On Ubuntu, no luck
[23:09:56] <electricfeel> same network
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[23:12:34] <bright> I've downloaded eclipse from the ubuntu repos, it seems I only have the bare minimum. How so I add php to it?
[23:13:51] <_j4zz_> try Help | install new software
[23:14:20] <fixl> ihm
[23:14:49] <fixl> isn't it a bad idea to mix software from the ubuntu repos with some external software?
[23:15:45] <FurnaceBoy> fixl: in this case it's quite normal procedure, the adding software is intra-eclipse and managed by eclipse.
[23:15:59] <fixl> ah i c
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[23:16:54] <FurnaceBoy> electricfeel: everything else can use the net? name resolution is working?
[23:17:09] <electricfeel> Yep, I'm streaming radio and IRCing from the same machine :P
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[23:18:03] <bright> j4zz: it doesn't come with any sites so I guess it cant even check for updates? What are the main sites?
[23:18:17] <_j4zz_> it's 3.5?
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[23:18:45] <bright> galileo
[23:18:58] <bright> is that my issue?!
[23:19:33] <bright> 3.5.1
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[23:20:44] <electricfeel> Ok, *THAT* was weird. I think there was some inconsistency with java/jdk + eclipse 32/64bit...
[23:20:55] <electricfeel> I just ran the 64bit version and it works
[23:20:58] <_j4zz_> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo
[23:21:27] <_j4zz_> bright, add that as the galileo update site
[23:21:41] <_j4zz_> you should find everything there
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[23:53:21] <NyB> hi, how would I go about including arbitrary (e.g. 3rd party) data files in my plugin ?
[23:53:56] <NyB> ideally I'd like the files to be in a data/ folder in the plugin root
[23:54:53] <NyB> I tried using Java's ClassLoader but it did not quite work... probably some classpath issue
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[23:57:38] <FauxFaux> "Binary literals can only be used with source level greater or equals to 1.7" COCKTEASE :(
[23:57:48] <erdal> NyB: try Bundle#getEntry( "data/yourfile.ext" )...
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