[00:03:11] <rcjsuen> Flushing content description?
[00:03:35] <fupp> it came after I installed AnyEdit plugin
[00:04:15] <fupp> I deleted everything called anything like AnyEdit from the eclipse config folder but the problem is still there
[00:06:01] <fupp> hm seems like it works again after letting it run for a while
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[01:08:30] <d3xter> does anyone know the link to install org.eclipse.wst.sse.ui?
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[01:46:37] <d_a_carver> d3xter: http://download.eclipse.org/webtools
[01:47:04] <d_a_carver> d3xter: if you install the XML editor from Gallieo, it'll install the org.eclipse.wst.sse.ui as well
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[02:01:29] <diogo_79> hi
[02:03:23] <diogo_79> i have install eclipse standard and now i want to develop php code what i need to install to accomplish that? I dont whant to download the php for developers
[02:04:01] <rcjsuen> Eh?
[02:04:12] <rcjsuen> wouldn't that be the logical item to download?
[02:07:00] <diogo_79> but i whant to develop java applications
[02:07:04] <diogo_79> to
[02:08:12] <NoobFukaire> eclipse can support both at the same time, you can have basically any plugins installed at the same time
[02:08:42] <diogo_79> what plugin i have to install to have php support?
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[02:09:54] <NoobFukaire> diogo_79: google it
[02:10:57] <rcjsuen> ~pdt-install
[02:11:02] <Arbalest> Trying to install PDT? See http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Installation
[02:13:43] <diogo_79> thanks arbalest
[02:13:55] <NoobFukaire> I hope it's a bot ;)
[02:14:02] <diogo_79> most helpful
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[02:26:25] <diogo_79> anyone has install pdt 2.2 with xdebug?
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[02:32:48] <jihedamine> Hi. I made a maven project in eclipse. I declared two dependencies on the pom file but when I select "update maven dependencies" for the project, I get no error but no dependency is downloaded.
[02:33:01] <jihedamine> I'm using m2 eclipse plugin
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[02:51:57] <fupp> When I install SVNKit, shouldn't it appear under SVN Connector in preferences?
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[02:56:46] <Mathuin> fupp: Team > SVN is where my SVN preferences are.
[02:57:21] <kkb110> does anybody know what gui component does eclipse use for flexible interface? (e.g. resize, attach, detach, move around editor, workspace, etc...)
[02:57:57] <fupp> yeah I find the preferences just when I go to the SVN Connector tab I can't select any connector so I can't connect to a repository even though I just installed SVNKit...
[02:58:23] <rcjsuen> kkb110: those are generally all standard SWT widgets/controls
[02:59:37] <kkb110> I've just got some answer from #java that eclipse uses their own custom RCP framework for that
[02:59:58] <rcjsuen> that's correct those are provided by the eclipse platform
[03:00:51] <kkb110> so I'm looking those if I can pull out the library and I can use them or not thanks :)
[03:01:38] <rcjsuen> kkb110: Is your application in Swing?
[03:01:53] <kkb110> yes, it's based on swing
[03:02:09] <rcjsuen> well Eclipse is not rendered using Swing
[03:02:20] <kkb110> oh really?
[03:02:21] <rcjsuen> so you should give up or switch to using Eclipse RCP
[03:02:33] <kkb110> I didn't know that; hm;;
[03:02:37] <rcjsuen> Well, does the Eclipse platform look like a Swing UI?
[03:02:53] <kkb110> that's actually I wondered now I know lol thank you
[03:03:29] <kkb110> it seems if I stick to swing, I have to look at another docking gui component for swing
[03:03:51] <rcjsuen> I imagine there are solutions, but you'd have to ask in ##java.
[03:04:18] <fupp> How am I supposed to connect to a repository with subversive? first install subversive, then SVNKit, then select SVNKit as connector and then connect?
[03:04:19] <kkb110> ok thank you very much, it was helpful (nobody told me that's not swing except you)
[03:04:44] <jihedamine> kkb110: see netbeans swing plugin
[03:05:07] <kkb110> jihedamine: oh ok I'll take a look :)
[03:05:15] <rcjsuen> jihedamine: Swing plugin?
[03:05:35] <jihedamine> they have a visual editor to design swing applications
[03:05:40] <rcjsuen> oh i see what you mean
[03:05:52] <jihedamine> yes it's included in the basic netbeans distribution
[03:06:01] <jihedamine> it's called Matisse
[03:06:04] <rcjsuen> but that doesn't necessarily provide kkb110 with a lfexible user interface per se
[03:06:10] <rcjsuen> that just helps you draw a Swing GUI
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[03:06:55] <jihedamine> rcjsuen: yes
[03:07:24] <jihedamine> if he wants a platform he can use the netbeans platform, which is written in swing too
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[03:09:04] <fupp> hm I guess I'll have to install subclipse
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[03:10:24] <kkb110> rcjsuen It seems JFace works with swing http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/JFace
[03:10:48] <rcjsuen> kkb110: i see no mention of the string "swing" on that page
[03:10:56] <kkb110> swt
[03:11:01] <rcjsuen> swt != swing
[03:11:09] <kkb110> oh really?;;;
[03:11:15] <rcjsuen> yes JFace is written on top of SWT APIs though, that is a correct statement
[03:11:18] <rcjsuen> kkb110: look it up on wikipedia
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[03:11:23] <kkb110> ok
[03:11:49] <kkb110> oh yea lol you're right
[03:15:02] <kkb110> swt seems far much much more better :(
[03:18:41] <fupp> ah, subclipse at least detects svnkit :)
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[03:52:12] <jihedamine> Hi. In a maven project under eclipse, I declared some dependencies. When I select "Update maven dependencies" I get no errors but no dependencies are installed. I'm using m2 plugin and I checked that the dependencies are declared correctly
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[04:28:34] <rhk> I'm trying to define a rule for float values in Xtext, but I'm getting an error that says "java.lang.String cannot be case to java.lang.Double"
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[04:51:44] <HKCMD> is there any gui designer for pulsar ?
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[05:20:21] <w0lfshad3> it is enough to copy the plugin in plugins directory to install one?
[05:21:38] <w0lfshad3> i'm aiming to integrate the plugins from PDT all in one into ganymede
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[05:28:05] <rhk> figured out my Xtext problem. needed to define a value converter.
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[05:29:34] <w0lfshad3> how many are still using ganymede?
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[07:34:34] <biker> hi
[07:34:41] <biker> i have a problem =/
[07:35:28] <biker> java and C are no showing on persperctive, so i cant make programs =/
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[07:41:18] <biker> problem solved, needed to remove ~/.eclipse
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[10:01:50] <udoprog> Hey, having problems with the galileo gui, from time to time I am unable to press some wizard buttons, they just stick, but i can focus on them and press "enter" for them to activate. Also the scrolling lists in Install new software list does not update properly when I've added a new URL. Generally theres alot of ui bugs which i feel might be part of something else (other than eclipse). I'm using sun jre 1.6 on 64bit Ubuntu/Linux
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[10:11:22] <udoprog> k, found this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/458703
[10:13:22] <akurtakov> udoprog: debian maintainers are hanging at #eclipse-linux
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[10:39:04] <Knightingale> is there any way to arrange the .java files in the src/ of a project into my own groupings so i can put the related ones together
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[10:57:45] <jmimi> Knightingale : i don't underestand you
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[11:01:27] <keya> Knightingale: You mean package them accordingly?
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[11:42:36] <dob1> hi, i have eclipse installed on ubuntu, but i have problems using it, for example on the create class/create project dialog and a lot of other dialog, if with the mouse i press NEXT or FINISH nothing happen, like the mouse is ignore, i have to use the hotkey for Next of Finish, why this?
[11:43:34] <dob1> i press next with mouse, i see the button is pressed but nothing happen,  i have to use ALT+n
[11:44:10] <Infinito> dob1, what's your eclipse version ?
[11:45:20] <Infinito> I must say I never had this kind of problem, I use ubuntu too
[11:45:45] <dob1> galileo
[11:45:59] <Infinito> hm
[11:46:20] <dob1> the fact that i see the button pressed is just that if i pass on it with the mouse it has the pressed effect
[11:47:22] <karmic_yo> dob1, that happened to me as well when I tried ubuntu 9.10
[11:47:37] <karmic_yo> with 9.04 it doesn't happen ;-)
[11:47:53] <dob1> 9.10 too
[11:47:58] <dob1> i use this
[11:48:08] <karmic_yo> so that's the problem.
[11:48:15] <karmic_yo> with 9.10
[11:48:38] <dob1> but it's not the jvm shipped with ubuntu, i tried the one from java.sun.com and same problem
[11:49:15] <dob1> i think the problem can be the gtk that the linux edition of ubuntu use, can be?
[11:49:16] <karmic_yo> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=293540
[11:49:29] <karmic_yo> yes maybe.
[11:51:44] <dob1> there is the solution to  export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true and seems to work
[11:52:42] <dob1> karmic_yo: thanks for the link
[11:52:54] <karmic_yo> dob1, you're welcome ;-)
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[12:51:19] <anu> Hi how can i get a section from a particular view? getSite().getWorkbenchWindow() .getActivePage().getSelection() provides the selection from active view...
[12:53:39] <rcjsuen> fyi use getSite().getPage() for "faster"
[12:53:48] <rcjsuen> IWorkbenchPage has methods to find a view based on an id
[12:54:14] <rcjsuen> and from their ask its selection provider
[12:54:21] <rcjsuen> or ask the selection service for the part's selection
[12:54:58] <anu> thanks...let me try
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[13:00:37] <anu> rcjsuen : works fine. I did this : http://pastebin.com/d398bef0d thanks!
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[13:06:38] <rcjsuen> thank you for sharing your solution
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[13:40:25] <Aeris> Hello world!
[13:41:05] <Aeris> i search for help on eclipse wst
[13:41:26] <Aeris> is there a wst chan or am i on the right one? :)
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[13:46:03] <magnet> Aeris, no idea, but fire your question anyway
[13:46:10] <Aeris> :)
[13:46:25] <Aeris> i create a tomcat 5.5 server on eclipse
[13:46:35] <Aeris> and publish a webapp on it
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[13:47:13] <Aeris> but all deployed lib in the webapp deployment are only the "workspaced"
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[13:47:23] <micw> hi
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[13:47:36] <Aeris> if my webapp use lib1.jar and lib2.jar
[13:47:53] <Aeris> with lib1.jar is one of my workspace library
[13:48:09] <Aeris> and lib2.jar is a not eclipse lib
[13:48:23] <Aeris> only lib1.jar is on the deployed webapp
[13:48:40] <Aeris> then tomcat crash at startup because of missing lib :'(
[13:48:53] <magnet> is lib2.jar referenced in your project, don't you use some ant script to deploy?
[13:49:06] <micw> i have a custom eclipse plugin that runs a webapp in tomcat (similar to wtp but not equal, so i cannot change to wtp). the plugin is a few year old and build's a project's classpath from the .classpath files. now i want to change it to use the eclipse api so that i can use e.g. maven2eclipse's classpath container
[13:49:17] <Aeris> i use maven
[13:49:30] <Aeris> the jar created with mvn install is correct
[13:49:48] <Aeris>  /jar/war/
[13:49:52] <Aeris> all libs are embedded
[13:50:06] <Aeris> and deploy it by hand into tomcat is ok
[13:50:16] <Aeris> but if i run "run on server" from eclipse
[13:50:27] <Aeris> only "workspaced" project lib are deployed
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[13:50:31] <fantomas> HI all
[13:50:48] <magnet> Aeris, is lib1.jar properly referenced in your Java project?
[13:50:50] <fantomas> How to change Eclise Search to inline search?
[13:50:54] <micw> when i get all classpath entries using jproject.getRawClasspath(), they are not resolved, so i can check what the typ (i.e. jre container) is. but how can i resolve such entries?
[13:50:56] <Aeris> yes
[13:51:00] <fantomas> Ctrl-F opens dialog, while I want inline search
[13:51:09] <Aeris> it's a maven dependency
[13:51:37] <magnet> fantomas, there is no inline search that I know of. (yet)
[13:51:49] <magnet> there's probably an open enhancement request for it though
[13:52:28] <rcjsuen> fantomas: I think you awnt Ctrl+J?
[13:52:33] <magnet> Aeris, I meant in your JDT project (that is, Java according to Eclipse)
[13:52:51] <Aeris> yes
[13:53:23] <magnet> rcjsuen, ah, yes nice. Forgot about that because it's not really userfriendly
[13:53:41] <rcjsuen> magnet: I never think of using it myself, guess I'm too used to Ctrl+F.
[13:53:41] <Aeris> all missing libs are visible on the libpath project properties
[13:53:47] <Aeris> log4j, hibernate, spring....
[13:53:53] <fantomas> rcjsuen: yes, thanks!
[13:54:22] <Aeris> those libs are correctly packaged by eclipse when creating jar, war or launching junit
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[13:54:35] <Aeris> but not deployed by wst
[13:55:23] <magnet> well unless there's someone using WST here, I guess you'd get more help on the ~forums
[13:55:24] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
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[14:04:27] <squarism> is there any good uml modelling tool available for eclipse?
[14:04:32] <squarism> plugin that is
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[14:34:08] <zabka> hi, i try to set a watchpoint in eclipse. could it be, taht is doenst work ? i developing in c and use cdt plugin
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[15:01:31] <micw> when i create a "Launch" (via my eclipse plugin), the console displays nothing until i click on the "run" button. seems that the console has to be enabled somehow. but how?
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[15:15:20] <paulweb515> micw: after it has been enabled once, does it always work.  Or you mean you always have to create a launch and then click it from the run menu?
[15:15:43] <micw> the 1st
[15:16:27] <micw> i click on project->webap->start. the webapp starts but i see no output. when i click on the green "run" arrow (without startiung anything), the console is somehow activated
[15:16:38] <paulweb515> the problem might be that the console hasn't been created the first time you want to use it
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[15:18:19] <paulweb515> micw: You can do a org.eclipse.ui.IWorkbenchPage.showView(String, String, int) with IWorkbenchPage.VIEW_CREATE before you launch to make sure it has been created
[15:18:49] <paulweb515> micw: or you can hook into how debug does it (since they have an option that allows them to launch the console when they launch an app
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[15:19:40] <zabka> hi, i try to set a watchpoint in eclipse. could it be, taht is doenst work ? i developing in c and use cdt plugin
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[15:22:16] <micw> paulweb515, the console is already present (and i don't want to change the view=
[15:22:55] <guyzmo> hi
[15:23:35] <simon__> hello! I am working with wtp. There I have created Servers (Tomcat 6.0). Now I want my collegues to get the same server configuration as I have using a versioning system (e.g. svn). Can I somehow checkin the Servers Project so that someone else can just check it out and has the servers runnable in the servers view?
[15:24:29] <guyzmo> I'm reasking same thing as yesterday (really sorry, but still getting stuck because of this...) : after a namespace refactoring when I try to launch the java project again, it will tell me it can find the main object... and it was working before the refactoring
[15:24:51] <guyzmo> (and I used the refactoring tools, didn't change the file path and/or package name)
[15:26:04] <paulweb515> micw: sure ... calling showView(*) on an ID that's already there just insures it has been created, it won't create another one
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[15:27:00] <micw> i'll try that
[15:28:00] <philk_> since when does EclipseLink 1.2 requires (!) Java 1.6?
[15:28:21] <micw> should "DebugPlugin.getDefault().getLaunchManager().addLaunch(launch); " still do the thing or is something there deprecated?
[15:28:31] <micw> (my plugin originated from eclipse 2.x)
[15:29:03] <micw> paulweb515, where do i get an instance of IWorkbenchPage from?
[15:30:51] <paulweb515> micw: you should check out the Debug section of the Platform Plug-in Developer Guide - http://help.eclipse.org
[15:31:18] <paulweb515> micw: launching something and having it show up in the console must be a common requirement
[15:31:23] <paulweb515> Also check out the ~FAQ
[15:31:23] <Arbalest> Please see the FAQs http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs
[15:31:33] <paulweb515> Specifically, the Official one
[15:33:59] <micw> the platform doc shows how to create a own launcher (which is run with "run->as ...)
[15:39:14] <magnet> guyzmo, check your launch configuration
[15:39:30] <NoobFukaure> nice so far karmic and eclipse 3.5.1 are working nicely
[15:40:47] <guyzmo> magnet - hey !
[15:40:54] <magnet> ho
[15:40:59] <guyzmo> magnet - so far I removed and rebuilt it
[15:41:06] <guyzmo> but still...
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[15:41:35] <magnet> your launch configuration is likely refering to the class before it was refactored
[15:41:58] <magnet> I don't think there is a refactoring participant for launch configurations
[15:42:57] <guyzmo> magnet - where do I check them ? in .project ?
[15:43:02] <magnet> guyzmo, try Run As > Launch Configurations... and make a brand new one (or scan for a new Main type)
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[15:43:21] <magnet> no, they are not stored within your project (in your workspace metadata)
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[15:43:31] <Lemon_BE> Hi, how can i use a template only for a project?
[15:43:31] <magnet> (unless you want them to be saved there)
[15:43:46] <magnet> Lemon_BE, define template?
[15:43:46] <Lemon_BE> when i click Project => Properties
[15:44:05] <Lemon_BE> and then in Code Templates i enable it
[15:44:33] 
[15:44:49] <Lemon_BE> but then if i add a php file in my project, the template is still the master template
[15:44:49] <Lemon_BE> not the one i defined in that configuration window
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[15:45:40] <magnet> well, that sounds like a problem in PDT then
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[15:49:52] <micw> the problem is not that the console view is missing, but that the org.eclipse.debug.internal.ui.views.console.ProcessConsole is not pressent within this plugin
[15:50:58] <paulweb515> micw: well, how does the FAQ or the help section say to hook the console up correctly to your launch?
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[15:52:31] <micw> i didn't find this yet
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[15:56:25] <rcjsuen> It should be
[15:56:31] <rcjsuen> I don't even know why you need ProcessConsole though...?
[15:56:37] <micw> ilaunchmanager.addLaunch(launch); should notify all listeners
[15:57:00] <micw> i guess, that the listener is not pressent when the first thing i do after eclispe start is to run my webapp
[15:57:06] <guyzmo> magnet - still, I remade a brand new launch configuration using the main type scan
[15:57:10] <guyzmo> but no luck
[15:57:33] <guyzmo> I grepped workspace/.metadata no reference to the previous namespace
[15:57:44] <rcjsuen> Well did you confirm if the class file exists on disk physically?
[15:57:55] <guyzmo> yes I do :)
[15:58:01] <guyzmo> in the correct directory
[15:58:47] <magnet> JDT?
[15:59:10] <rcjsuen> So you're saying the launch config scan can't find it?
[16:00:17] <guyzmo> it does find it
[16:00:26] <guyzmo> I can make the launch configuration as usual
[16:00:47] <guyzmo> but when I launch that configuration I get a java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError exception
[16:01:17] <rcjsuen> Can you run it properly from the command line?
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[16:01:44] <rcjsuen> Not that that would necessarily have a direct relation to the NCDFE.
[16:02:50] <guyzmo> actually did not try, but it was working perfectly until I refactored the namespaces using the eclipse ui
[16:03:18] <rcjsuen> Is the NCDFE looking for the old name anyway
[16:03:56] <guyzmo> nop
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[16:04:50] <guyzmo> I get "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/my/name/space/MyClass"
[16:05:07] <guyzmo> and in my project src/org/my/name/space/MyClass.java exists
[16:05:41] <rcjsuen> And the .class file?
[16:05:52] <guyzmo> did not get built
[16:06:10] <rcjsuen> I thought it was there, I guess there was as miscommunication
[16:06:32] <guyzmo> rcjsuen - sorry, I understood class, not .class
[16:06:45] <guyzmo> my fault
[16:07:24] <rcjsuen> Did you close/reopen your project / try cleaning it / restart Eclipse?
[16:07:42] <rcjsuen> If it's not getting built then JDT has properly deemed its build path to be off and does not want to try to compile it.
[16:07:42] <guyzmo> I did, but let's redo it again
[16:07:50] <micw> the solution is: DebugUITools.getConsole(launch.getProcesses()[0]); // ensure that the console is shown
[16:08:38] <magnet> guyzmo, is it only Java?
[16:08:53] <guyzmo> magnet - yes it is, no ant, no nothing
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[16:09:09] <guyzmo> just a simple class to launch with some java libraries
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[16:10:57] <guyzmo> ok, removed launch configuration, cleaned, closed the project, closed eclipse, reopened everything rebuilt everything
[16:11:18] <guyzmo> still the .class does not get built, and I got no errors
[16:11:31] <guyzmo> (except the NCDFE)
[16:12:26] <rcjsuen> Try making a new project with a new class and see if that project gets built then.
[16:12:27] <guyzmo> I think I'm gonna destroy and check out again my project (svn pwns)
[16:12:41] <guyzmo> but it does not explain why that happens
[16:12:53] <magnet> pebkac
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[16:13:20] <guyzmo> rcjsuen - actually I'm building a client/server, the client works perfectly, the server not...
[16:13:33] <guyzmo> and I did the same namespace refactoring at the same time in both
[16:13:36] <rcjsuen> So the client project is built properly
[16:13:48] <guyzmo> (got killed by cosmetics)
[16:13:51] <guyzmo> magnet - foad :)
[16:14:03] <guyzmo> yup
[16:14:07] <magnet> :'(
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[16:36:11] <fupp> what can cause this error?
[16:36:12] <fupp> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/eclipse/core/resources/IContainer
[16:36:13] <fupp>         at org.eclipse.ui.internal.ide.application.IDEApplication.start(IDEAppli
[16:36:13] <fupp> cation.java:114)
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[16:36:36] <fupp> Caused by: org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseLazyStarter$TerminatingClassNotFoundException: An error occurred while automatically activating bundle org.eclipse.core.resources (185)
[16:37:15] <magnet> bad build, bad classpath, etc
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[16:37:54] <fupp> eclipse suddenly crashed when I was doing an svn commit, or at least it started using 99% cpu for a long time so I killed it.. next time I tried to start it I got that error..
[16:38:42] <guyzmo> \o/
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[16:38:57] <guyzmo> well I did a grep in .metadata and removed all references to the project's name and its files
[16:39:05] <guyzmo> and it worked, at last...
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[16:45:07] <MataRatos> hi everyone i'm havint some trouble with eclipse! after installing eclipse something breaks my autocomplete in bash (only for the java command) and i'm clueless af for what is causing this...
[16:45:18] <MataRatos> could some one help me out here?
[16:45:19] <MataRatos> =/
[16:46:02] <rcjsuen> guyzmo: What kind of files did you remove?
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[16:47:18] <rcjsuen> fupp: Well you could try to start your Eclipse on another workspace and see if it's still usable.
[16:47:28] <brwnphyscst> Can someone direct me to the appropriate doc(s) that reference how to view j2ee docs from within a j2ee project?
[16:48:00] <brwnphyscst> I cannot get any javadocs for either core, or j2ee references to appear within a jsp page.
[16:48:45] <brwnphyscst> I know I have asked about this previously, however, no one ever responds.  It would really be much appreciated if that subject were at least addressed.  I can't even find anything online about it.
[16:48:59] <guyzmo> rcjsuen - I removed .classpath, .project and .settings from the project, and in metadata I removed the launchers (I had more there than visible in eclipse) and edited workbench.xml
[16:49:10] <fupp> hm, new workspace didn't work either. I guess I'll have to reinstall
[16:49:22] <rcjsuen> guyzmo: Then how did you bring back the .project files? You mean you got them back from SVN?
[16:49:52] <guyzmo> I let eclipse rebuild it
[16:50:10] <guyzmo> (I had to add the javanature line, though)
[16:50:31] <guyzmo> (though usually I keep .classpath and .project in the svn repository)
[16:50:40] <rcjsuen> Rebuild it?
[16:50:51] <rcjsuen> rebuild the .project file?
[16:50:58] <guyzmo> well yes, it reappeared when I opened the project
[16:51:08] <rcjsuen> That's odd, it shouldn't.
[16:51:25] <guyzmo> uhuh :)
[16:51:27] <brwnphyscst> Guys, seriously, how come no one will address this inquiry?  Am I asking in the wrong channel, or something?
[16:51:43] <brwnphyscst> I have asked about it on two other occassions.
[16:51:59] <rcjsuen> guyzmo: Did you close the project first?
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[16:52:27] <guyzmo> rcjsuen - I closed the project, closed eclipse, did my modifications, reopened everything
[16:52:57] <rcjsuen> guyzmo: just tried it, and as expected the project will not open without a .proejct file
[16:52:59] <magnet> brwnphyscst, maybe you are
[16:53:27] <rcjsuen> brwnphyscst: If no one answers then I guess no one online at the moment knows the solution. Did you try the ~forums
[16:53:27] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[16:53:55] <brwnphyscst> Actually, I have not, so I guess I will try there as well. Thanks.
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[16:56:32] <guyzmo> rcjsuen - well, I also created a new launch configuration, relinked my project with another one etc... before checking
[16:57:10] <guyzmo> sorry to forget to tell everything, but I'm on a deadline today, o
[16:57:18] <guyzmo> so I'm focused on the project
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[17:11:04] <rcjsuen> guyzmo: well, whatever, as long as your problem is solved, thank you for sharing your solution
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[17:11:21] <guyzmo> rcjsuen - and thanks for helping
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[17:31:29] <haptiK> does eclipse have a form designer?
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[17:34:15] <haptiK> hmm
[17:34:24] <haptiK> it appears that there is not one built in
[17:34:52] <haptiK> but there is a plugin
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[17:37:44] <rcjsuen> haptiK: You mean for Java or what
[17:38:35] <haptiK> sorry yes for java
[17:38:46] <rcjsuen> ~java-gui
[17:38:47] <Arbalest> Looking for a Java GUI designer plug-in for Eclipse? Go take a look at the *free* Visual Editor (http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE), Visual Swing for Eclipse (http://code.google.com/p/visualswing4eclipse/), Instantiations' *commercial* WindowBuilder (http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilderpro/), and/or Jigloo (http://www.cloudgarden.com/jigloo/) , which is *free for non-commercial use*.
[17:38:58] <rcjsuen> but you are right there is none "built-in" out-of-the-box
[17:39:15] <haptiK> i've found the JFormDesigner http://www.formdev.com/download/ but you have to pay for it after 20 days
[17:39:27] <haptiK> netbeans has one built in
[17:40:15] <fixl> the code matisse produces is not the best IMHO
[17:40:32] <rcjsuen> fixl: I guess you get what you pay for :P
[17:40:43] <fixl> hehe
[17:41:31] <fixl> i've used it a 2 or 3 years ago when i had to make gui stuff for university ... when i was to lazy to wrap my head around SWT
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[17:42:30] <fixl> but now i don't need a gui editor ... SWT is pretty easy if you understand what you are doing ;)
[17:44:23] <rcjsuen> I haven't done Swing since 2005 so can't really compare the two myself
[17:47:28] <haptiK> is swing bad?
[17:47:46] <nitind> It's just different.
[17:49:22] <fixl> well ... SWT looks native. I don't like the look of SWING, but thats my personal preference ;)
[17:50:03] <NoobFukaure> swing is more flexible if you need to do something really custom but I prefer SWT interfaces as well
[17:50:19] <NoobFukaure> because they fit in with the OS and have the same performance characteristics
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[18:27:08] <haptiK> wtf why can't i paste anything into eclipse
[18:27:10] <haptiK> DUMB
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[18:27:46] <rcjsuen> ?
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[18:28:24] <heshan> how to install SVN plugin?
[18:28:57] <rcjsuen> Probably depends on which one you want to install but I guess the steps are probably about the same for both though Subversive requires more mouse clicks I guess.
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[18:31:18] <dilton> i use subclipse http://subclipse.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectProcess?pageID=p4wYuA
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[18:32:41] <NoobFukaure> I've used them both, they both work
[18:32:48] <magnet> it has changed recently
[18:33:04] <NoobFukaure> we standardized around subversive though, because it's probably going to have better support and integration in the future
[18:33:11] <NoobFukaure> and I hear the codebase cleaner
[18:33:17] <magnet> if you get the subversive team provider that's in galileo, it proposes to install its connector to you now
[18:33:23] <magnet> (it's been a few weeks afaik)
[18:33:32] <NoobFukaure> nice
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[18:34:17] <magnet> I was surprised, no need to go to polarion's website anymore
[18:34:19] <rcjsuen> magnet: oh that's nice
[18:34:27] <magnet> and it uses p2 :)
[18:34:55] <magnet> anyway, gotta go, cya tomorrow
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[19:12:17] <straw> Hey, somehow I can't get it manged to get a smaller font in the Navigator box, at least not over Preferences -> Appearance -> Font-blah. Any idea how to change that?
[19:12:46] <rcjsuen> That's an OS font.
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[19:15:42] <straw> Uhm, so, any idea where I could change that on Debian?
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[19:20:39] <rcjsuen> not sure, you can google around, there are some blog entries about modifying your gtkrc file
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[19:21:35] <straw> ah, GTK, ok
[19:21:38] <straw> thanks
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[19:29:51] <rhk> yay, fun, learning to use Xtext.
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[19:40:14] <rhk> actually, Xtext was easy, and is actually fun to use. Xtend is giving me fits though. any here use either Xtext or Xtend?
[19:40:58] <bitchkat> i'm using eclipse on Fedora 11 for C development.  They had a couple of updates today that didn't include the cdt plugin.
[19:41:28] <bitchkat> now when I run eclipse, it can't find the cdt stuff and I'm kinda stuck
[19:43:02] <bitchkat> nevermind, it seems like moving ~/.eclipse aside clears that up
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[19:55:20] <hapt1K> hello
[19:55:57] <hapt1K> what were the links to the jform plugins to eclipse
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[19:56:10] <hapt1K> could someone get the bot output them
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[20:14:54] <hapt1K> !help
[20:14:55] <Arbalest> Looking for help? Go look at the FAQs first - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:FAQ You may also want to try asking for help on the newsgroup. http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups Still no luck? Just ask the question! To help us help you, please provide information about your system, see ~info. For a list of the commands I provide, please see ~list.
[20:15:10] <hapt1K> !help ~gui
[20:15:15] <hapt1K> !help ~list
[20:15:23] <hapt1K> ~list
[20:15:23] <Arbalest> Check out the list of available messages and commands I provide - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/messages.html - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/commands.html
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[20:20:11] <hdon> hi all. can i put plugins in ~/.eclipse/plugins as i can in /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins ?
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[20:22:24] <hdon> and... how can i see a list of working plugins?
[20:22:54] <jmimi> hdon: yes, you can
[20:23:22] <hdon> jmimi: thanks :) i'm noticing that all the files in /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins are directories. can i just drop a jar in there?
[20:23:24] <jmimi> hdon : go "Help" --> "Software Update" , under available tab
[20:23:42] <jmimi> hdon : yes
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[20:24:42] <nitind> hapt1K: What are the jform plug-ins of which you speak?
[20:25:18] <hdon> jmimi: from menu/Help/Software Update, i have two options "Find and Install" and "Manage Configuration" which do i choose?
[20:25:39] <hdon> oh, hmm... i'm instructed to use the "dropins" directory
[20:26:36] <jmimi> hdon : Manage configuration, and "dropins" also is there for this reason(plugin)
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[20:33:05] <GHReyes> something can help me with a issue with Eclipse Ganymede/Galileo and JBoss 5.1.0.GA ?
[20:33:35] <GHReyes> i spent several days and i cant load Jboss
[20:33:42] <hapt1K> nitind: if you've been in here for a while it should be in your buffer if you scroll up
[20:33:53] <hapt1K> nitind: about 2 hrs ago
[20:33:57] <GHReyes> i probe Netbeans without any problem
[20:34:23] <GHReyes> but i want eclipse
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[20:36:00] <jmimi> GHReyes : what is your problem exactly?
[20:36:30] <GHReyes> jmimi: i cant load JBoss from Eclipse
[20:36:50] <hapt1K> nitind, they alow for swift frame development
[20:36:55] <GHReyes> Jboss works from NB 6.7.1
[20:36:57] <hdon> jmimi: where can i find 'dropins'?
[20:37:35] <GHReyes> i can paste boot.log and server.log if help
[20:38:13] <jmimi> hdon : /usr/share/eclipse/dropins/
[20:38:24] <nitind> hapt1K: http://www.formdev.com/download/
[20:38:28] <jmimi> GHReyes : maybe i can help
[20:38:39] <GHReyes> jmimi: forgive my bad English
[20:39:19] <GHReyes> jmimi: or prefer sent files *.log to you by mail?
[20:39:20] <jmimi> GHReyes : for what? from where?
[20:39:55] <hdon> jmimi: is there a similar dropins directory in my home somewhere?
[20:40:11] <jmimi> GHReyes : e.pasbani at gmail.com
[20:40:29] <hapt1K> nitind, theres a google code lnk
[20:40:51] <jmimi> hdon : no, i don't see
[20:41:46] <hdon> :( that's too bad
[20:41:58] <nitind> hapt1K: ~gui .
[20:41:58] <Arbalest> Looking for a Java GUI designer plug-in for Eclipse? Go take a look at the *free* Visual Editor (http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE), Visual Swing for Eclipse (http://code.google.com/p/visualswing4eclipse/), Instantiations' *commercial* WindowBuilder (http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilderpro/), and/or Jigloo (http://www.cloudgarden.com/jigloo/) , which is *free for non-commercial use*.
[20:42:06] <jmimi> hdon : why?
[20:42:21] <GHReyes> jmimi: i just sent it 2 u
[20:42:39] <jmimi> GHReyes : ok, i check
[20:42:51] <hdon> jmimi: oh, i enjoy being able to compose a single runtime environment from system-wide and user-wide dynamically loadable content such as DSOs and configuration files
[20:43:10] <hapt1K> visualswing thats the one
[20:43:14] <hapt1K> thank you very much
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[20:44:06] <hdon> jmimi: in what version was the dropins directory introduced? i dont' have one. could i.. create one and expect that maybe eclipse knows about it, it was just not created by my installation package?
[20:44:27] <hdon> jmimi: and that is /usr/lib/eclipse/dropins, correct? not /usr/share/eclipse/dropins? i did not see a /usr/share/eclipse directotry
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[20:46:02] <GHReyes> jmimi: many manu thanks I spent a week searching and probing without sucess :-(
[20:46:13] <jmimi> hdon : yes , you can create it, even you can create in your home/.eclipse
[20:46:23] <hdon> jmimi: ah, thank you! :)
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[20:48:14] <rcjsuen> hdon: introduced in 3.4
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[20:49:03] <hdon> rcjsuen: ugh, thanks for the news, although it is bad for me. i have version 3.2.2. if i am trying to use a plugin that instructs me to drop a jar into my dropins directory, does that mean my eclipse is too out of date to use it?
[20:51:38] <rcjsuen> maybe
[20:51:43] <rcjsuen> i don't know what version requirements your plug-in has
[20:51:50] <rcjsuen> fyi 3.2.2 is basically 3 years old
[20:52:52] <hdon> rcjsuen: it's what's current in the latest ubuntu release :(
[20:53:10] <rcjsuen> yes, we get people like you every day or so ;p
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[20:56:46] <dilton> that's like over 300 new Eclipse on Ubuntu developers per year! :)
[20:58:19] <GHReyes> i have ubuntu 8.04 (upgraded) + eclipse galileo
[21:00:57] * hdon misses debian
[21:01:11] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure if Debian would be up-to-date.
[21:01:33] <rcjsuen> but anyway, you could install the binary if you wish
[21:01:35] <rcjsuen> ~linux-install
[21:01:35] <Arbalest> Trying to install Eclipse on Linux? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_Linux.3F
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[21:02:32] <akurtakov> rcjsuen: debian devs are active at eclipse-build so they will have a galileo package soon
[21:02:45] <rcjsuen> akurtakov: well, so is the ubuntu team
[21:02:57] <rcjsuen> i mean right now at this moment switching to Debian wouldn't help hdon
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[21:03:14] <rcjsuen> or i guess the debian/ubuntu team
[21:03:14] <akurtakov> i think that just released ubuntu has 3.5.1
[21:03:15] <rcjsuen> anyway ;)
[21:03:23] <rcjsuen> yeah the one tomorrow/today
[21:04:38] <magnet> hdon: there's no good reason to use the old version that goes with your distribution, and pretty good reasons not to
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[21:05:03] <magnet> unless your home is mounted with noexec
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[21:06:09] <GHReyes> jmimi: do you received my email?
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[21:08:49] <jmimi> GHReyes : yes, but i can not underestand anything, but i guess there is a problem with classpath in youe IDE
[21:09:16] <GHReyes> :o
[21:09:27] <jmimi> GHReyes : sorry for not to help you
[21:09:50] <jmimi> GHReyes : what is your DB?
[21:11:09] <GHReyes> How can I check the current classpath of the IDE?
[21:11:17] <GHReyes> PostgreSQL
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[21:12:10] <jmimi> GHReyes : menu Window -> Prefrences
[21:12:23] <GHReyes> i go to see
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[21:18:34] <jmimi> GHReyes : http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=362842
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[21:25:49] <GHReyes> Error deploying: file:/home/gperezreyes/jboss-5.1.0.GA-jdk6/server/default/conf/bootstrap/vfs.xml
[21:26:05] <GHReyes> jmimi: u saw it?
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[21:26:37] <GHReyes> DEBUG [ProfileServiceBootstrap] Failed to build ManagedDeployment for: AbstractKernelDeployment at 850e8c{name=file:/home/gperezreyes/jboss-5 dot 1.0.GA-jdk6/server/default/conf/bootstrap/vfs.xml
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[21:27:13] <gaffo_work> does anyone know where I can find javadoc for SWTBot
[21:27:14] <gaffo_work> ?
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[21:32:09] <GHReyes> jmimi: there are too many options in Window -> Prefrences
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[21:33:29] <GHReyes> jmimi: i'm lost
[21:33:42] <jmimi> GHReyes : sorry for late, go Java -> Build Path
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[21:36:13] <GHReyes> Project not selected. Folders selected. source src. Output folder: bin. JRE library jre container.
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[21:37:35] <jmimi> GHReyes : if you see "Classpath Variables"?
[21:37:42] <GHReyes>  see
[21:38:09] <jmimi> GHReyes : so add lib folder of jboss to it
[21:39:06] <GHReyes> ECLIPSE_HOME JRE_LIB JRE_SRC JRE_SRCROOT JUNIT_HOME JUNIT_SRC_HOME
[21:39:13] <GHReyes> jmimi: ok
[21:39:58] <mackid> question: Eclipse 3.5.1, I can't run my Java project. I right-click the main class and choose Run As... Java Application, and it says "Selection does not contain a main type" ... it QUITE obviously has a main method, and I didn't make a stupid mistake, what's going on
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[21:40:57] <Mathuin> What's the line with your main method say?
[21:41:06] <GHReyes> jmimi: name of variable?
[21:41:16] <mackid> I've been programming Java for 4 years, I'm not an idiot. public static void main( String[] args ) throws Exception {
[21:41:30] <jmimi> GHReyes : does not matter, for example JBOSS_LIB
[21:41:46] <Mathuin> I'm not thinking you're an idiot, I'm just curious.  The last time I had any trouble like that, my main() was accidentally outside my class.
[21:42:14] <mackid> it's in the class. none of the classes have errors or anything. I can probably compile it from the command line, if that'll make you happy
[21:42:26] <Mathuin> No, I'm out of suggestions, sorry.
[21:42:31] <mackid> ok.
[21:42:41] <jmimi> mackid : you should create a configuration for running, go menu Run -> Run Configuration
[21:43:28] <mackid> jmimi, I did that. I click on Search and it doesn't list the class with the main method, just a bunch of other classes that are in a jar that I'm using for some library functions
[21:43:56] <mackid> jmimi, also, my main class isn't in a package
[21:44:06] <mackid> jmimi, just (default package)
[21:44:53] <mackid> I'm also using subclipse, if that's relevant.
[21:47:29] <mackid> no one knows?
[21:47:48] <jmimi> mackid : maybe problem is caused from other thing, it says "does not contain main type.."
[21:48:06] <mackid> jmimi, yes?
[21:49:02] <jmimi> mackid : compile and run in terminal
[21:49:11] <mackid> jmimi, ok. hold on.
[21:51:03] <jmimi> GHReyes : what's the result?
[21:51:29] <mackid> jmimi, compiles fine
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[21:52:12] <mackid> jmimi, runs fine. Someone tell me why it won't in Eclipse?
[21:52:33] <jmimi> mackid : give me some minutes
[21:52:46] <mackid> or why Eclipse INSISTS there is no "main type" when it's RIGHT THERE
[21:53:14] <mackid> I don't know how you people use eclipse to get real work done without pulling your hair out in frustration, seriously
[21:53:35] <GHReyes> jmimi: i must to stop jboss
[21:53:38] <GHReyes> wait
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[21:55:48] <zabka> hi, i have a struct s *s = malloc(sizeof (s)); with other structs inside. let say that i assign NULL to one member s->m=NULL;. now i wanna do  struct s *s2=s; do i have to explizit s2->m=NULL?
[21:56:05] <GHReyes> jmimi: i tell you tomorrow
[21:56:20] <GHReyes> i 'll tell u tomorrow
[21:56:21] <jmimi> GHReyes : ok
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[21:56:43] <dilton> mackid what OS
[21:56:52] <mackid> dilton, Windows 7
[21:57:04] <rcjsuen> zabka: How does this relate to Eclipse?
[21:57:32] <rcjsuen> mackid: If you write a hello world in a new Java project does it work there?
[21:57:45] <zabka> sorry!! wrong channel
[21:57:52] <zabka> i thought im in c
[21:57:54] <zabka> ...
[21:57:55] <mackid> rcjsuen, yes, and other projects without external libraries work fine as well
[21:58:03] <rcjsuen> zabka: Well that's better than you sitting here waiting forever for an answer ;)
[21:58:26] <zabka> rcjsuen: yep ;)
[21:59:06] <dilton> mackid try left click the class file with main, then right click, then run as and also use run as Configurations and delete it if it exists, close, the run as again  maybe the run config is bad?
[21:59:28] <rcjsuen> or make a new java launch config by hand
[21:59:36] <dilton> yep
[22:00:13] <mackid> I've already tried this. OK, I deleted the old one, making a new one. it's called New_configuration. my Project is selected under "Project"
[22:00:24] <mackid> nothing under "Main class," so I click "Search..."
[22:00:38] <mackid> and I type the name of the main class, and nothing appears
[22:00:54] <mackid> I can only click Cancel or select a class from the external jar I'm using
[22:01:28] <rcjsuen> Did you check whether the class file physically exists on disk?
[22:01:49] <mackid> rcjsuen: class file, or java file? :P I already compiled and ran the program in the console, it's there
[22:01:56] <rcjsuen> I meant the latter.
[22:02:01] <rcjsuen> So it exists in your bin/ folder then.
[22:02:02] <rcjsuen> er
[22:02:04] <rcjsuen> i meant the former ;)
[22:02:05] <mackid> src
[22:02:25] <mackid> no, there's no class file
[22:02:30] <mackid> doesn't a run config compile it too?
[22:02:36] <mackid> I don't see a compile button anywhere
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[22:03:01] <rcjsuen> by default it's built automatically, you seem to have hit a problem similar to guyzmo had earlier I guess
[22:03:07] <rcjsuen> you can check in the project menu wrt your build settings
[22:03:20] <mackid> Build Automatically is checked.
[22:03:21] <millertimek1a2m3> hey i keep getting a null pointer exception whenever i try to create a visual class
[22:03:56] <millertimek1a2m3> can anyone help me fix this?
[22:04:06] <mackid> Source folders on build path: MyProject/src
[22:04:16] <straw> Is it possible to create a normal folder right in the workbench? I always have to enter source folders != workbench, which kinda sucks :) I'd like yo create a top folder called like the programming course I'm doing which contains all single exercices as own projects.
[22:04:17] <rcjsuen> you could try to clean i suppose
[22:04:39] <rcjsuen> straw: Workspaces have to contain "projects".
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[22:04:41] <mackid> clean? like make clean? :D lol
[22:04:47] <rcjsuen> projects contain 0-N files/folders
[22:04:50] <rcjsuen> mackid: Project -> Clean?
[22:05:01] <mackid> done
[22:05:15] <millertimek1a2m3> rcjsuen: well i did find something about that and i ran a clean under project
[22:05:18] <straw> I see, so the workbench itself should be the course name, thanks
[22:05:26] <gaffo_work> Anyone here for SWTBot?
[22:05:27] <mackid> rcjsuen, that didn't change anything
[22:05:45] <rcjsuen> straw: Depends on how you wanna organize, I guess I might do that.
[22:05:56] <rcjsuen> straw: I think what i did was just csXXX-01, csXXX-02 and split 'em up as separate projects
[22:05:59] <rcjsuen> but whatever works for you
[22:06:15] <rcjsuen> millertimek1a2m3: I wasn't talking to you. Cleaning your projects won't help your problem I don't think.
[22:06:36] <millertimek1a2m3> what should i do then?
[22:06:48] <millertimek1a2m3> i'm a freshman in college in my first semester and I'm  teaching myself java
[22:06:49] <straw> rcjsuen: guess that will be fine for me, yes, thanks again
[22:07:06] <_brent_> I'm getting "terminate failed" (no details) errors when killing a tomcat server with the console terminate button. it terminates fine if i run it in debug mode.
[22:07:23] <_brent_> is there a lock file with bad permissions or something i should look for?
[22:07:29] <rcjsuen> millertimek1a2m3: I think you should check Bugzilla that bug sounds vaguely familiar it may have been logged alrdy.
[22:07:38] <millertimek1a2m3> it was
[22:07:43] <millertimek1a2m3> i found one that was... years old
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[22:07:54] <mackid> so what should I do? reinstall eclipse?
[22:07:57] <millertimek1a2m3> but it said "resolved" or fixed or whatever...
[22:08:36] <jmimi> mackid : no , try restart eclipse
[22:09:06] <millertimek1a2m3> didn't explain what was done to fix it
[22:09:25] <rcjsuen> mackid: if cleaning didn't generate class files in your bin/ folder then it's possible your buildpath is corrupt or something, in jdt's metadata
[22:09:31] <mackid> for the record, I just checked it into SVN, checked out (into Eclipse) on another computer, and tried to run it. works fine, first time.
[22:10:05] <mackid> ah, here we go
[22:10:12] <mackid> works now
[22:10:56] <mackid> so when in doubt, restart eclipse. because just like it doesn't notice when you put new files into a directory, it also can't seem to fix itself unless it's restarted. hooray. -.-
[22:10:58] <Mathuin> Did oyu have to blwo away your workbench or just restart eclipse?
[22:11:03] <Mathuin> Okay, restart eclipse.
[22:11:15] <mackid> I still think it's retarded, though :P
[22:11:25] <rcjsuen> millertimek1a2m3: check in bugzilla for the actual bug report then
[22:11:27] <Mathuin> Oh, I totally agree.
[22:12:29] <dilton> sometimes just prior to pulling out my hair I try eclipse -clean in case the metadata got messed up like rcjsuen mentioned
[22:12:29] <millertimek1a2m3> rcjsuen: well i found this --- https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=108671
[22:12:30] <rcjsuen> millertimek1a2m3: and NPEs are a common problem, without any ~logs or trace information no one is even sure what the source of your problem is
[22:12:31] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[22:12:42] <rcjsuen> dilton: well -clean won't save your ws's metadata ;p
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[22:13:08] <millertimek1a2m3> well how can I give you logs or trace info? I saw them doing it on the bug report figured I would have to do that
[22:13:29] <Mathuin> I have found Eclipse's debug logs to be extremely unhelpful in finding NPEs.  It's way easier for me to litter the code with Log.v() to find it than to see anything in the traceback.
[22:13:29] <rcjsuen> that bug has nothing to do with a "visual class"
[22:13:36] <nitind> millertimek1a2m3: Use a ~pastebin
[22:13:36] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[22:13:37] <Mathuin> I would *love* to learn how to use the debug logs to find NPEs.
[22:13:55] <rcjsuen> i think that was filed in the wrong component
[22:14:08] <rcjsuen> i will however gladly take back my previous absolutely incorrect comment tho
[22:14:12] <millertimek1a2m3> i know about pastebin, but how do i get the info to place it in there in the first place
[22:14:24] <nitind> millertimek1a2m3: ~log
[22:14:25] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[22:15:36] <rcjsuen> Mathuin: logs just log stuff, assuming the npe is logged
[22:15:40] <rcjsuen> not sure I follow here
[22:16:50] <nitind> Mathuin: The stack trace has a line number.  Either that line throws the exception directly, or something's being called/accessed on an object that's null.
[22:17:17] <Mathuin> nitind: I am using Eclipse to develop applications for Android.  The stack trace lines are not in my code.  That's the problem.
[22:17:29] <Mathuin> rcjsuen: when I open the debug perspective, the upper left window is named Debug.
[22:17:35] <rcjsuen> Those Android programmers are pretty good then :)
[22:17:37] <nitind> Mathuin: Check the doc, then.
[22:18:17] <Mathuin> I introduced an intentional NPE by commenting out an array declaration and trying to write to the array.
[22:18:43] <straw> Is there a way to prevent ctrl+b to build everything in the workspace or is that intended behaviour? :>
[22:18:55] <straw> (same with ctrl+f11)
[22:19:03] <rcjsuen> i guess when it's compiled to dalvik the debugging info is gone tho that sounds kinda dumb
[22:19:04] <millertimek1a2m3> right now the error log is extremely long. i'm thinking possibly that i should clear it, then run the process again that I'm having trouble with
[22:19:09] <millertimek1a2m3> then post my error log
[22:19:13] <millertimek1a2m3> how do I clear the log
[22:19:25] <nitind> millertimek1a2m3: Use the Error Log view.
[22:19:29] <Mathuin> When I get the NPE, the Dalvik VM stuff says (exception RuntimeException) and it's in the activity thread, not in any of my code.
[22:19:52] <Mathuin> The Variables window shows the e variable with NullPointerException as its value, but there's no line-number informatino.
[22:19:56] <Mathuin> Am I doing something wrong?
[22:20:15] <nitind> Mathuin: No, but you could try calling e.printStackTrace() and seeing what happens.
[22:20:42] <Mathuin> nitind: how can I do that without wrapping the NPE-generating code with try/catch?
[22:21:10] <Mathuin> can I do that now from the debugger somehow?
[22:21:16] <nitind> Mathuin: It's in your Variables view, right?  With it selected, edit the contents of the value box to read this.printStackTrace(), select it all, and execute it from the context menu.
[22:21:46] <nitind> Just don't hit Ctrl+S while you're in there.
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[22:22:25] <Mathuin> How do I "execute it from the context menu"?  Everything else there may have made sense.
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[22:22:48] <hdon> Mathuin: right click gets you a context menu, is probably what that means
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[22:23:11] <nitind> Hmm, thought it could do that there as well as in the editor pane.
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[22:23:30] <millertimek1a2m3> alright, i'm back
[22:23:49] <Mathuin> hdon: selected all, right-clicked, selected Execute.  Got "Unable to evaluate the selected expression"
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[22:24:15] <hdon> Mathuin: well i have no idea what you're doing. why would you try to execute all?
[22:24:34] <Mathuin> Not execute all, select all of what I typed.
[22:25:13] <Mathuin> Type 'this.printStackTrace()', Ctrl-A to select all, Ctrl-U to execute.
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[22:26:02] <hdon> Mathuin: is that the IDLE python interpreter?
[22:26:38] <Mathuin> hdon: this is Java.
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[22:27:14] <hdon> Mathuin: sorry, i don't know how to help you anymore, i only knew what "context menu" usually means
[22:27:35] <millertimek1a2m3> here's what's in the log file. The last thing i did was create a new visual class, so you should just be able to check it for a last action, that's what we're looking for righthttp://pastebin.com/m521fc8b2
[22:27:42] <millertimek1a2m3> http://pastebin.com/m521fc8b2 sorry
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[22:28:14] <millertimek1a2m3> rcjsuen Mathuin nitind: if you're still here
[22:28:46] <nitind> millertimek1a2m3: Stop running on gcj.  Use a supported VM.  ~gcj
[22:28:47] <Arbalest> GCJ is not officially supported by Eclipse as a Java runtime environment. Please talk with your distribution's packaging team and/or the GCJ team for assistance. To run Eclipse with a different JVM, see: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I_just_installed_Eclipse_on_Linux.2C_but_it_does_not_start._What_is_the_problem.3F
[22:29:00] <millertimek1a2m3> what's gcj?
[22:29:03] <millertimek1a2m3> what's VM?
[22:29:08] <rcjsuen> see what Arbalest said for the gcj question
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[22:29:14] <rcjsuen> for VM, look up JVM on Wikipedia
[22:29:17] <millertimek1a2m3> vm virtual machine
[22:29:17] <nitind> millertimek1a2m3: And use a newer version of Eclipse.  You're running something essentailly 3 years old.
[22:29:24] <millertimek1a2m3> really?
[22:29:32] <millertimek1a2m3> but I got it from the add/remove...
[22:29:45] <rcjsuen> yes, really, unless you feel we have a reason to lie ;)
[22:30:00] <Mathuin> hdon: Thanks for the reminder on context menu, that helped me get this far.
[22:30:17] <millertimek1a2m3> well why would they leave something that old on the repositories... and I don't even know who "they" is when i say it... who is in control of freaking add/remove... man
[22:30:22] <millertimek1a2m3> now i'm full of questions
[22:30:24] <rcjsuen> Mathuin: maybe your "this" isn't a java.lang.Throwable then
[22:30:29] <rcjsuen> can you at least call
[22:30:34] <rcjsuen> System.out.println(toString());
[22:30:50] <millertimek1a2m3> ok, how do I get a newer version of eclipse and how do I update my VM?
[22:30:55] <millertimek1a2m3> or change my VM?
[22:31:19] <rcjsuen> That'd highly depend on your distribution I guess.
[22:31:22] <nitind> Mathuin: You had the exception selected in the Variables view?
[22:32:06] <Mathuin> nitind: I had the exception selected in the Variables view.
[22:32:22] <millertimek1a2m3> rcjsuen: i'm using ubuntu
[22:32:59] <Mathuin> rcjsuen: I tried to call System.out.println(toString()); and got the unable-to-evaluate error box.
[22:33:58] <rcjsuen> can you print anything? (forget toSTring())
[22:34:16] <nitind> Mathuin: What's the NPE actually blocking?  And you're certain you're not sending null into methods as arguments where it's not allowed, right?  And did you say this was an intentional NPE?
[22:35:08] <rcjsuen> I guess the ~ubutnu-java page might still bue seful. If not you'll have to talk to your fellow Ubuntu users.
[22:35:15] <rcjsuen> ~ubuntu-java
[22:35:15] <Arbalest> Trying to get Java running on Ubuntu Linux? Is someone in the channel saying some foreign phrase like "a supported JRE"? Look here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[22:35:44] <Mathuin> nitind: It was an intentional NPE.  I commented out "dah = new byte[resdah.length * 2];" and then tried to assign a value to dah[0].
[22:36:06] <nitind> Mathuin: So what exactly are you stuck on?
[22:36:43] <rcjsuen> y'know maybe screenshots would help here to make sure what Mathuin sees is what we think Mathuin sees ;p
[22:37:59] <Mathuin> nitind: What I'm stuck on is how to use the debug logs (the stuff in the upper left corner) to tell me what's wrong.
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[22:38:11] <Mathuin> I used an example where I know what's wrong to make it obvious.
[22:38:34] <nitind> Mathuin: upper left corner?  You mean the Debug view itself?
[22:38:55] <Mathuin> nitind: yes.
[22:39:07] <Mathuin> I am now building the app again, so I can take screenshots.
[22:42:07] <Mathuin> Okay, I have screenshots.
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[22:44:06] <Mathuin> http://www.twilley.org/~jmt/tmp/images/at-breakpoint.png -- this is at a breakpoint before we reach the NPE.
[22:44:30] <Mathuin> http://www.twilley.org/~jmt/tmp/images/at-npe.png -- this is when I hit the NPE.
[22:44:45] <Mathuin> ... err, no, it's when I hit step forward.  Oops. :-)
[22:46:14] <Mathuin> http://www.twilley.org/~jmt/tmp/images/at-npe-now.png -- this is actually at the NPE.
[22:47:33] <nitind> Mathuin: Um, you already have the line number using the Debug view.  But I'm not sure you're going to be able to track down the cause without the sources.  Why don't you have the sources?
[22:48:35] <Mathuin> That's the source to Android itself.
[22:50:03] <Mathuin> All that NativeStart, ZygoteInit, ActivityThread stuff, it's part of Android, not of my app.
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[22:55:40] <jabalsad> hi all, i'm getting something weird: i installed CDT and eclipse recognises that its installed (when i go to "install new software")... but for some reason my C++ perspective has disappeared and its not available at all, neither can i create any C++ projects - they just arent there :|
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[22:56:21] <jabalsad> oh wait nevermind. are plugins workspace specific?
[22:56:43] <rcjsuen> jabalsad: No.
[22:56:58] <jabalsad> oh, i thought it might have something to do with the fact that i created a new workspace
[22:57:19] <jabalsad> because the cdt plugins are all in the .metadata/.plugins/ folder of the old workspace
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[22:59:33] <jabalsad> ok, well then my question still stands :D i have no idea where my CDT disappeared to..
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[23:26:43] <Powerplay> hat is going wrong here: this is base.html http://dpaste.com/113881/ with the block "content" with the child index.html http://dpaste.com/113890/ This works all fine. Now i want to make a link to results.html http://dpaste.com/113886/ including block content2 which is also in index.html but it doesn show content 2 Why?
[23:26:44] <Powerplay> anyone an idea?
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[23:27:25] <straw> Where are the settings saved, I set via the Preferences menu? (Especially font sizes). I tried copying .metadata/.plugin/org.eclipse.core.runtime/.settings to the new workspace, but I still get those 'default' settings. Any ideas?
[23:27:40] <Powerplay> sorry wrong channel
[23:28:00] <rcjsuen> straw: why don't you just import/export your prefs
[23:29:13] <straw> Uhm, where do I do that?
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[23:29:43] <rcjsuen> File > ...
[23:30:55] <straw> Oh, sorry. I looked there of course, but only saw things like C/C++ and so on on the first glance and closed the window to keep on searching.
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[23:53:25] <jabalsad> is there anyone here that uses CDT?
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[23:57:06] <KWhat_Work> my mouse hand spazed out and i right clicked something that enabled some kind of bread crub of packages above my src.  Anyone know what that might be
[23:57:26] <rcjsuen> KWhat_Work: i think i know, but screenshots would help
[23:57:53] <KWhat_Work> is there a paste for screen shots
[23:58:04] <rcjsuen> ~imagebin
[23:58:04] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[23:59:44] <KWhat_Work> http://imagebin.org/69678
[23:59:46] <KWhat_Work> that was cool
[23:59:52] <rcjsuen> what was
[23:59:59] <KWhat_Work> imagebin





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