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[00:36:07] <Sebo> Hi! I've got strange error while trying Galileo -> Help -> Install New Software... . It pases through dependency check and then while downloading stops with message "An error occurred while collecting items to be installed [...] No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.cdt.mylyn,5.2.0.v20091015-0500-e3x ..." and so on ;]
[00:36:33] <Sebo> Whats up?
[00:37:18] <Sebo> anyone here?
[00:38:14] <nitind> Be patient.  And at least say *what* you were trying to install.
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[00:46:12] <Sebo> I've got clean Galileo 3.5.1 with EPP's for Java, C++ & PHP installed (yersterday)... and I was trying to add Subclipse (http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.6.x) or Subversive ...but each  of those stops with simular error ;]
[00:47:47] <Sebo> And I'm patient ... but I hadn't seen anyone talking so I started to think everyone is sleeping now ;]
[00:48:32] <Sebo> It's nice to see you here :)
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[01:33:15] <Powerplay> hi guys
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[01:35:07] <Powerplay> what is a good way to find out on which mirror plugins are ? I am looking for Web Page Editor (Optional) 2.2.1.v20090813-4369oB55W5S7G	org.eclipse.jst.webpageeditor.feature.feature.group   but i don know on what available software i can find it
[01:35:38] <Powerplay> available software site
[01:38:02] <rcjsuen> should be at the Galileo site i would think
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[01:41:25] <Powerplay> rcjsuen, that one gives an error Unable to read repository at file:/home/mark/eclipse/p2/org.eclipse.equinox.p2.repository/cache/content1048691197.jar.
[01:41:25] <Powerplay> A decimal representation must immediately follow the "&#" in a character reference.
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[01:55:25] <Powerplay> rcjsuen, it's just http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo right?
[01:55:49] <rcjsuen> sounds right to me
[01:55:54] <Powerplay> hmm
[01:56:37] <Powerplay> no repositoy found ...
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[01:59:11] <rcjsuen> the list loads fine for me
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[02:06:49] <Led_Zeppelin> I have 10 users and we would like to share an eclipse instance, instead of having 10 installs. I am doing this thru NFS, however, I would like to have plugins but I am not sure where I should put my plugins for sharing. Any ideas?
[02:08:58] <Led_Zeppelin> basically, I want pydev and subverse. They are my #1 concerns.
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[02:17:05] <Led_Zeppelin> anyone here? :-)
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[02:26:15] <NoobFukaire1> Led_Zeppelin: I'd just put them in the read only network share
[02:26:32] <NoobFukaire1> eclipse makes a local directory if it can't write to it's main dir
[02:26:44] <NoobFukaire1> and users can even install their own plugins that won't effect the group
[02:28:18] <Led_Zeppelin> NoobFukaire, well, the share is readonly. Only root can write to that share.
[02:28:46] <Led_Zeppelin> NoobFukaire, also, I want to include couple of modules so the users don't have to install their own. For example, pydev I want to provide that in. so users don't have to
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[02:34:01] <NoobFukaire1> did you not read what I said?
[02:35:02] <Led_Zeppelin> but, I want to have a shared plugins. Like pydev. I want that to be shared instead bunch of users have their own version
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[03:35:50] <Led_Zeppelin> is there a deluxe version of eclipse with a lot of plugins prebuilt?
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[03:36:32] <rcjsuen> not from eclipse.org anyway
[03:36:47] <rcjsuen> look at Yoxos/Pulse/EasyEclipse/some other third party solution
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[03:44:16] <Led_Zeppelin> thanks
[03:44:26] <Led_Zeppelin> i like easy eclipse but i kind of would like to have 3.5.1
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[05:13:19] <heshan> erdal: Equinox is using Eclipse it self for plugin management?
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[06:01:12] <heshan> erdal: you there?
[06:01:37] <heshan> any one know about http in Equinox
[06:01:38] <heshan> ?
[06:06:07] <NoobFukaire1> equinox is more of a lower layer
[06:06:15] <NoobFukaire1> eclipse components are built on top of osgi
[06:06:37] <NoobFukaire1> eclipse plugins are a separate system and don't have any directly interaction with osgi processes
[06:06:43] <NoobFukaire1> or at least I haven't run into anything like that yet
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[06:23:18] <heshan> NoobFukaire1: can I use Equinox with JSP?
[06:23:30] <heshan> I found this http://www.eclipse.org/equinox/server/http_in_equinox.php
[06:30:44] <NoobFukaire1> yeah with jetty
[06:31:03] <NoobFukaire1> but keep in mind that equinox is just a container for managing code and application lifecycle stuff
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[06:39:36] <rashed2020> Can someone tell me which version to download so I'd get Java with it, too?
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[06:45:42] <nitind> You mean the Java tools or a JRE?  None of the them include a JRE.  For the Java Development Tools (JDT), consult http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/compare-packages .
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[06:53:13] <rashed2020> Which one is the one that includes everything Eclipse needs to compile Java? I used to download one with JavaFX or something cuz that always worked. That's not there anymore.
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[06:57:16] <heshan> NoobFukaire1: but in http and servelet bride its handling http requests rite?
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[07:23:59] <stiv2k> how can I generate a class diagram from existing code in modeling tools?
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[07:57:42] <Yogesh_Saini> i installed eclipse successfully. But i am not getting how to configure ftp server.
[07:57:51] <Yogesh_Saini> so that i can work online with other guys
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[08:01:27] <Yogesh_Saini> any help???
[08:01:49] <Yogesh_Saini> how to configure ftp
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[08:03:33] <vikram> hello, anybody here knows how to dubug gcc cross compiler sources using eclipse??
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[09:12:07] <philk__> what does "java.lang.LinkageError: loader constraints violated when linking org/eclipse/jface/action/IAction class" mean?
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[09:13:41] <yezariaely> hi, i created a new builder using project > properties > builders
[09:13:56] <yezariaely> but the builder is called only once (if i change settings of the builders)
[09:14:18] <yezariaely> when i run "build all" or "clean" it is not started
[09:14:43] <yezariaely> though i have checked the "run the builder after a clean
[09:14:50] <yezariaely> and during manual builds" box
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[09:14:58] <yezariaely> any dieas?
[09:15:01] <yezariaely> ideas?
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[09:59:56] <philk__> how can i force p2 to remove old plugins?
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[10:07:55] <gein> How do I define the height of a TableViewer in RCP? I've tried setting heightHint on my GridData object but that didn't help. I would like the TableViewer to show like 10-15 rows even though it happens to be empty when first drawn.
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[10:21:23] <gein> I think my question is, how do I fill the complete composite with my TableViewer
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[10:27:25] <erda> gein: use FillLayout instead
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[10:37:20] <gein> erda: works fine, thanks!
[10:37:50] <erda> gein: you could also use this: new GridData(GirdData.FILL_BOTH)
[10:38:01] <erda> GridData.FILL_BOTH
[10:38:23] <erda> if you are going to add more controls to your composite
[10:40:46] <gein> erda: okay, thanks!
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[11:04:26] <erdal> anyone used swtbot?
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[11:04:40] <erdal> i want to show a dialog and wait until it is visible
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[11:13:51] <erdal> ok, found http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=6169&S=64c57b9c58c872ca9d86a6001dc61766
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[11:33:58] <Guest7122> what should i specify if i have a Composite with a RowLayout (vertical) in which i want to add a component that takes up all the width possible?
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[11:36:21] <magnet_> yourLayout.fill = true;
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[11:39:42] <matvrak_> magnet_: like this? http://pastebin.com/d5a16a360
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[11:39:59] <matvrak_> the button takes up only a minimal width
[11:42:25] <matvrak_> i'm putting MyComposite in a GridData defined as new GridData(), widthHint = x, verticalAlignment = SWT.FILL if that matters
[11:42:54] <matvrak_> where x is a lot wide than the width of this button
[11:42:55] <magnet_> if it works, yes, if not, no :). I never use RawLayouts
[11:42:55] <magnet_> my company's DNS server is down, I can't see the paste
[11:42:55] <magnet_> I am stuck on IRC ;)
[11:43:08] <matvrak_> magnet_: hehe
[11:43:30] <matvrak_> it doesn't work, but it specifies rowLayout.fill = true like you said
[11:43:55] <matvrak_> maybe i should use gridlayout instead, save eveyone some time :)
[11:44:01] <magnet_> okay, yourComposite.setLayoutData(new GridData(GridData.FILL_HORIZONTAL));
[11:44:02] <magnet_> would that work?
[11:44:06] <magnet_> yep :)
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[11:44:17] <matvrak_> what layout do you typically use?
[11:44:32] <magnet_> GridLayout or TableWrapLayout if I need wrapping
[11:44:40] <matvrak_> cool, thanks
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[11:50:49] <matvrak_> what is the best way to visually group widgets together? like a Composite with a border around it
[11:56:37] <philk_> why does p2 suck so much?
[11:56:53] <philk_> is there no way to remove old. outdated versions of plugins using p2?
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[12:01:46] <philk_> I mean is that so difficult? Check the plugins in the folder against the onces referenced in the features. Delete all that are not referenced
[12:01:55] <philk_> I will write myself such tool I guess
[12:02:07] <matt1s> Is it possible to download Eclipse with only the absolute core functionality? I don't want Java, C++, PHP or anything else
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[12:03:11] <philk_> matt1s: whats "core" for you?
[12:03:37] <philk_> matt1s: I mean what do you want do? Just the Workbench?
[12:03:52] <matt1s> philk_: I guess only the workbench. I want to install DLTK to get a Ruby environment
[12:04:41] <matt1s> philk_: but as far as I can see there's no Ruby Eclipse package
[12:05:31] <matt1s> philk_: and I don't want all the other stuff that comes with the packages, like CVS clients and things like that. I just want to build my own Eclipse from the ground up
[12:06:47] <philk_> matt1s: why not download radrails then?
[12:07:09] <matt1s> philk_: I think it's bundled in the Aptana package and that's even more bloated
[12:07:33] <philk_> matt1s: that may be, yes. Why not download the java version and uninstall the java stuff?
[12:07:50] <matt1s> philk_: I don't think it lets me uninstall the java stuff :-)
[12:07:57] <matt1s> philk_: but I can try
[12:08:13] <rcjsuen> ~base-dl
[12:08:13] <Arbalest> If you're looking for a small installation with just the Eclipse workbench (excluding JDT, PDE, etc.), then you should pick up the 'Platform Runtime Binary'. http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
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[12:08:58] <philk_> rcjsuen: arbalest is the new bot?
[12:09:26] <rcjsuen> philk_: The name indicates who "owns" it. At the moment it runs of nitind's machine. So he took the liberty of assigning a new name ;)
[12:09:44] <rcjsuen> still my code, but being run quote-unquote-24/7 courtesy of nitind's hardware
[12:09:49] <matt1s> rcjsuen: that's exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks!
[12:11:54] <philk_> rcjsuen: ah I see :)
[12:11:59] <matt1s> rcjsuen: not to be extremely picky, but it looks like the downloads are for the eclipse SDK and not the binary. Do you know if the binary is still available? I might be missing something
[12:12:10] <rcjsuen> matt1s: what are you looking at, what link
[12:12:33] <matt1s> rcjsuen: 3.5.1 link under Latest Release
[12:12:52] <rcjsuen> matt1s: so you're at http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5.1-200909170800/index.php yes?
[12:13:17] <matt1s> rcjsuen: yes
[12:13:22] <rcjsuen> matvrak_: Isn't that what the Group widget is for?
[12:13:29] <rcjsuen> matt1s: Hint, start scrolling, second hint, look on the left bar
[12:13:42] <matt1s> rcjsuen: ah, sorry :-) Thanks
[12:13:47] <rcjsuen> matt1s: :P
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[12:14:19] <erdal> i am getting: Method "trace" with signature "(Ljava/lang/Object;)V" is not applicable on this object
[12:14:29] <erdal> log4j Logger.trace()
[12:14:29] <rcjsuen> matt1s: There's been a few cases where people haven't found it, I'm not sure if it's the website layout or what *shrugs*
[12:14:37] <erdal> any hints?
[12:14:46] <rcjsuen> I think maybe I should enhance Arbalest's message to guide the user more.
[12:15:19] <matt1s> rcjsuen: I think it's because I got a "Download now: Eclipse SDK, linux" in the top I thought I was at the final destination, and not able to navigate to more specific releases
[12:15:40] <matt1s> rcjsuen: but that might just be me
[12:15:52] <rcjsuen> thanks for your feedback
[12:16:03] <rcjsuen> too bad i can't make myself get into the mentality of a first-time user :(
[12:16:26] <rcjsuen> erdal: shouldn't that be void logger(Object)?
[12:16:33] <rcjsuen> er
[12:16:36] <rcjsuen> void trace(Object)
[12:17:00] <matt1s> rcjsuen: oh and there's even a description what the page provides, but of course I just ignored that completely hehe
[12:17:09] <erdal> i am just calling org.apache.log4j.Logger.getRootLogger().trace( "test" )
[12:17:54] <erdal> (while debugging)
[12:18:29] <rcjsuen> ~set base-dl If you're looking for a small installation with just the Eclipse workbench (excluding JDT, PDE, etc.), then you should pick up the 'Platform Runtime Binary'. Go to the link here - http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ - then select the version you want. Afterwards, you can use the left navigation bar to find the 'Platform Runtime Binary' downloads.
[12:18:29] <Arbalest> The keyword "base-dl" has been updated with the new reply in my database.
[12:19:07] <rcjsuen> I guess the discovered implementation of the class doesn't actually define the method? Maybe some clasloading problem?
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[12:19:25] <erdal> it the orbit log4j plugin
[12:19:27] <erdal> is
[12:19:45] <erdal> and the depending plugin does not specify any version constraints
[12:20:15] <hrad> hey, I imported a project from cvs, it has javanature set in .project file, but it still behaves like it wouldn't ..any idea please ?
[12:20:25] <hrad> galileo, enterprise edition
[12:20:25] <rcjsuen> hrad: Does it have .classpath?
[12:21:01] <hrad> rcjsuen: yes
[12:21:08] <rcjsuen> try cleaning i guess
[12:21:09] <erdal> 44	RESOLVED    org.apache.log4j_1.2.13.v200806030600
[12:21:19] <erdal> there is no other log4j plugin
[12:21:19] <rcjsuen> i've not worked with java ee projects myself
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[12:25:37] <Led_Zeppelin> hello
[12:25:50] <Led_Zeppelin> I have 10 users and we would like to share an eclipse instance, instead of having 10 installs. I am doing this thru NFS, however, I would like to have plugins but I am not sure where I should put my plugins for sharing. Any ideas?
[12:29:03] <TomTom> i am not sure about the 3.5. but in earlier versions each user could have its own plugin directory/extension points... when all users use the same plugins this is not a problem :)
[12:30:10] <Led_Zeppelin> hmm
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[12:30:47] <Led_Zeppelin> well, I want to to distribute it so users don't have to download and install pydev and subclipse and stuff like that. I want that integrated.
[12:31:47] <rcjsuen> Couldn't you in theory just start Eclipse, install your plug-ins, then put that on NFS or whatever?
[12:32:02] <rcjsuen> By default the plug-ins just go in the eclipse/ folder AFAIK.
[12:32:27] <Led_Zeppelin> is it ~eclipse or $ECLIPSE_HOME/eclipse/
[12:32:27] <Arbalest> What is Eclipse? http://www.eclipse.org/home/newcomers.php
[12:32:54] <rcjsuen> Led_Zeppelin: There's no eclipse/eclipse/ folder, at least, not in any "default" builds.
[12:33:10] <rcjsuen> So when I said eclipse/ I just meant where it's installed.
[12:33:16] <jink> rcjsuen: That's correct.  Whenever I reinstall, I must reinstall the plug-ins, too.  They're not in my workspace.
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[12:34:31] <Led_Zeppelin> rcjsuen, i see. so I should just get a fresh copy of eclipse (classic) untar it at /tmp , start up eclipse as /tmp/eclipse/eclipse , install pydev thru updates, and CDT thru updates, exit eclipse. Move /tmp/eclipse to NFS share?
[12:34:53] <rcjsuen> That's what I would try anyway.
[12:35:01] <Led_Zeppelin> i have tried that.
[12:35:26] <Led_Zeppelin> if I goto help->about. I get nothing back, then I notice eclipse isn't fully installed :-(
[12:36:06] <rcjsuen> So you mean only the SDK's contents are there?
[12:36:13] <Led_Zeppelin> right
[12:36:18] <Led_Zeppelin> so, no reference of pydev
[12:36:51] <Led_Zeppelin> the SDK starts up, but even when I do help->about I get nothing back. Usuallly you get an eclipse logo and its version
[12:37:18] <rcjsuen> well, if your about dialog is corrupted, that sounds like a totally different problem
[12:37:41] <Led_Zeppelin> hmm, not sure how dialog could be corrupted
[12:38:09] <rcjsuen> so the dialog is blank?
[12:38:13] <Led_Zeppelin> yes
[12:39:08] <Led_Zeppelin> also, window->prereferences shows no reference of "PyDev"
[12:39:26] <rcjsuen> Before you move from tmp -> NFS, does Eclipse still work though?
[12:39:43] <Led_Zeppelin> yes it does
[12:42:03] <Led_Zeppelin> something is getting corrupted or being installed locally.
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[12:47:57] <volodya> what is the best way to execute some code when a wizard's page is shown?
[12:48:11] <volodya> using setVisible executes the code while the page is still the old one
[12:48:24] <volodya> which makes sense given when setVisible is called
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[13:18:22] <matt1s> rcjsuen: Do you know of an easier implementation of a terminal in eclipse than using RSE/RT SSH terminals?
[13:18:36] <rcjsuen> Dunno, I don't have that kind of need so never bothered to investigate.
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[13:19:09] <matt1s> rcjsuen: okay, thanks
[13:20:28] <cryolab> hello, i dont get EOF when pressing CTRL-D in console
[13:20:41] <cryolab> is this normal?
[13:30:54] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+Z maybe?
[13:31:48] <cryolab> doesnt work too :(
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[13:32:15] <rcjsuen> Sounds like a bug then.
[13:32:24] <rcjsuen> check your ~keys and figure out if it's a D or a Z
[13:32:24] <Arbalest> For a list of available key bindings press Ctrl + Shift + L. To configure your key bindings, see Window > Preference > General > Keys. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#What.27s_the_key_for_....3F
[13:33:08] <cryolab> uh ok i will try
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[13:37:48] <rac2030> Hi all, I have a Problem with starting eclipse after installing the plugin EclEmma, I tried manuall removing of this plugin but the error stays and i can't start eclipse... it says org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: Not implemented [multiple displays] from org.eclipse.osgi, does someone know a hint for me how i can fix this?
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[13:40:29] <rcjsuen> i suggest you check eclemma's website for bug reports/workarounds
[13:43:33] <rac2030> rcjsuen: i didn't found anything and as i removed the plugin and found a message from the eclipse dev mailinglist that someone has the problem after updating eclipse from 3.4.1 to 3.4.2 (I installed the plugin trough update site and eclipse also downloaded stuff from eclipse site (maybe updating some internal libs) I though maybe someone here knows this prob
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[13:57:47] <erdal> i have a scenario where HashMap does not work the same when run in a) debugger and b) exported product
[13:58:12] <erdal> i had to use LinkedHashMap to produce same results for keySet()
[13:58:55] <rac2030> ls
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[14:01:15] <rac2030> sry was the wrong window for ls ;-)
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[14:07:43] <rcjsuen> rac2030: It looks like some sort of fundamental threading problem as it's trying to create two Displays (which is not supported across all platforms, only Windows I think). Some stack trace / logs might help determine the culprit though hard to say.
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[14:08:40] <rac2030> rcjsuen: I agree, which log could have some infos?
[14:09:01] <rcjsuen> ~logs
[14:09:02] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[14:10:58] <rac2030> rcjsuen: i pasted the log here: http://pastebin.org/48956
[14:11:18] <rac2030> But it doesn't say me anything...
[14:11:42] <rcjsuen> i guess another bundle made one before the wb got a chance
[14:11:57] <rcjsuen> dunno what more to say
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[14:15:23] <rac2030> could id have to do with the equinox launcher?
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[14:17:40] <philk__> where are the p2 guys in this channel?
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[14:20:06] <paulweb515> philk__: there aren't any around, at least no really
[14:20:14] <paulweb515> philk__: sometimes they're in #equinox-dev
[14:20:26] <paulweb515> philk__: although, not today
[14:20:29] <philk__> paulweb515: p2 is freaking me out :)
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[14:20:44] <erdal> paulweb515: #eclipse-b3 ?
[14:20:50] <paulweb515> philk__: I understand (I do a product build and tests using p2)
[14:20:53] <philk__> whats so darn diffucult to remove old, unused plugins from the system?
[14:22:18] <philk__> I am currently writing a script that just reads all the files in the plugins folder, and matches them with the plugins referenced in the features. And removes what is not referenced... thats uhmmm... simple
[14:22:31] <jvi> Hmm..  i'm receving a "PHPCore plugin internal error" about every 5 mins
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[15:04:22] <flathm> hey everyone... new to eclipse plugin development.  I know I want to register a resource change listener.  Anyone know a good place where I can instantiate a class that will register itself as a resource change listener?
[15:04:38] <rcjsuen> flathm: I guess when your bundle is activated maybe?
[15:04:57] <paulweb515> flathm: what part of your plugin needs to be notified about resource changes?  A view?  An Editor?
[15:04:58] <flathm> rcjsuen: I'm guessing I need to set something up in the plugins.xml?
[15:05:26] <rac2030> rcjsun: I solved my prob, it was related to the plugin and replacing the platform.xml with the latest from history solved the issue
[15:05:41] <flathm> paulweb515: it's basically just a wizard that needs to pop up when a new project is added to the workspace
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[15:06:19] <Phoxis> hello
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[15:06:48] <Phoxis> is there any way that i can view a function call hierarchy graph ?
[15:06:59] <rcjsuen> flathm: That would be very annoying imo.
[15:07:08] <rcjsuen> Phoxis: In Java you use Ctrl+Alt+H
[15:07:28] <Phoxis> i am doing a project in C
[15:07:34] <rcjsuen> rac2030: Very odd. Thank you for sharing your solution though. :)
[15:07:44] <Phoxis> and i need to get a function call graph, graphically
[15:08:24] <flathm> rcjsuen: well that's the short version, I don't actually want it to do exactly that, but right now I'm just trying to figure out how I can detect when the bundle has been activated so I can perform some tasks
[15:08:43] <rac2030> rcjsun: I will make a blog entrie describing the problem and the solution and open a bug on sf.net for this, sharing problem/solution is the best way how others with the same prob can fix it ;-)
[15:09:00] <rcjsuen> in your manifest file there's a Bundle-Activator which defines the class an that class will let you kno when your bundle is activated
[15:09:11] <flathm> rcjsuen: ahh perfect thanks!
[15:09:15] <rcjsuen> rac2030: So true.
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[15:13:55] <Phoxis> any way i can have a function call graph ?
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[15:15:06] <paulweb515> Phoxis: you can use CTRL+ALT+H to get call hierarchy
[15:15:16] <Phoxis> oh, ok thanks
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[15:16:47] <rcjsuen> Assuming that works for C/C++ too. Guess my message earlier never got sent ;p
[15:18:28] <paulweb515> Phoxis: oh, sorry ... I don't know if CDT has implemented call hierarchy.  It works well in Java, and I would think they have enough information to do it in CDT (but I'm not sure)
[15:19:00] <Phoxis> lets check it out, (i am not in my dev system)
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[15:21:39] <Phoxis> yes it gives the call hierarchy , but what i want is a graph
[15:22:04] <Phoxis> i mean all functions with the call directions denoted by the paths
[15:22:29] <rcjsuen> Not even JDT supports a graphical visualization.
[15:22:56] <Phoxis> can you suggest some application where i can maintain such graph manually ?
[15:23:20] <Phoxis> then the management would be much easier
[15:25:56] <dilton> Phoxis doesn't the Profiler give that?
[15:27:12] <Phoxis> dont know, i dont use Eclipse much. This time manually managing the project is getting difficult, and i will include some other people, so i need an IDE.
[15:27:52] <Phoxis> the screenshots of the plugin, looks like the exact thing i need
[15:28:23] <rcjsuen> "of the plugin"? What plugin?
[15:28:24] <Phoxis> will it run with C Code project ?
[15:28:29] <Phoxis> Profiler
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[15:33:24] <Phoxis> checking this : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Eclipse/CallGraph
[15:34:23] <rcjsuen> o, the systemtap thingamajigger
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[15:34:55] <rcjsuen> Phoxis: That's from the Linux Tools project, I'm not sure if it's migrated completely over to eclipse.org yet. You can try asking on #eclipse-linux.
[15:35:09] <philk__> paulweb515: how come, that inside my WorkbenchContribution the getWorkbenchWindow() returns null after upgrading to the newest I-build?
[15:35:17] <Phoxis> ya, lets see
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[15:35:47] <dilton> I used a profiler a few months ago to check for thread issues and I'm pretty sure it was part of Eclipse Ganymede
[15:36:37] <rcjsuen> philk__: Sounds like a major regression.
[15:36:59] <rcjsuen> you maen WorkbenchWindowControlContribution right
[15:37:18] <heshan> any one know how vtp plugin works?
[15:37:31] <heshan> any one have experience with it?
[15:37:42] <philk__> rcjsuen: meaning?
[15:37:49] <rcjsuen> philk__: i mean you were subclassing WWCC
[15:38:00] <philk__> rcjsuen: thats right
[15:38:04] <rcjsuen> Since I don't actually have WorkbenchContribution in my ws.
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[15:39:30] <philk__> rcjsuen: I subclass from WorkbenchWindowControlContribution and after updating to the newest I-build (and manually removing all the old plugins from the target platform) my program fails with a NPE
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[15:41:16] <rcjsuen> is setWW never called (it's a superclass method)
[15:42:02] <flathm> rcjsuen: I figured out how to use a bundle activator, and I can detect when my plugin is loaded and everything, but I'd like my plugin to load before a user clicks on the menu item that launches it.  Is there a way I can define the extension or extension point so that the plugin will load when say another plugin is loaded, or something?
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[15:43:25] <philk__> rcjsuen: I check...
[15:43:35] <rcjsuen> flathm: Not sure off-hand. What are you trying to do anyway
[15:43:43] <rcjsuen> besides the obvious (wanting to listen to resource changes)
[15:44:16] <philk__> rcjsuen: obviously not, otherwise the wbw wouldnt be empty
[15:44:24] <philk__> rcjsuen: its called for other contributions
[15:44:29] <NoobFukaure> in it's default configuration say just the JDT version, does eclipse do anything with the wireadmin service?
[15:44:32] <rcjsuen> philk__: well, maybe it was called...but with a null ;p
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[15:44:57] <flathm> rcjsuen: well that's really it.  basically all it comes down to right now is I want to listen for resource changes, and if a specific change happens launch a wizard (that can also be launched via menu item)
[15:45:31] <flathm> rcjsuen: I can launch the wizard fine, but I can't figure out how to watch for resource changes because I can't seem to load the plugin before the user clicks on it :/
[15:45:56] <flathm> I know these are total noob questions so apologies
[15:45:57] <paulweb515> philk__: that would be bad
[15:46:11] <matt1s> How can I ignore .svn folders in the Package Explorer even without CVS or SVN plugins installed?
[15:47:27] <paulweb515> flathm: it's a hard problem to solve ... in RCP you can do what you want, but as an eclipse plugin it's a bad practice to start up eagerly ... it slows down load times, increases memory as all UI contributions associated with that plugin are started, etc
[15:47:34] <rcjsuen> flathm: It's not clear to me why a wizard should popup in my face when I change my resources.
[15:47:55] <paulweb515> flathm: org.eclipse.ui.start will be called after the workbench is created
[15:47:57] <rcjsuen> altho as Paul implied there are ways to make it startup eagerly, if you want to pay the price
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[15:48:27] <flathm> rcjsuen: it's definitely not going to pop up in your face whenever you change resources don't worry :)
[15:48:30] <paulweb515> flathm: if you have a non-UI plugin you can add your resource listener, and on a PROJECT create call your "open.my.wizard.command"
[15:48:59] <rcjsuen> well, on project creation, or whatever scenario you currently have anyway
[15:49:00] <paulweb515> in your UI plugin then you have your command and wizard, and they won't be activated until the user does something that forces your wizard to open
[15:49:33] <paulweb515> flathm: why are you trying to do something on every project create?  Wouldn't you just provide your own project create wizard?
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[15:51:56] <flathm> it's not on every project that gets created... it's only going to happen when a certain perspective is active where that perspective has been created by another plugin.  basically I'm just asking how to do this task that I know I need to do without bothering to explain all the complicated surrounding bits :)
[15:52:14] <epic_> in equinox i am trying to get a services through a servicetracker but if i print all the services in bundlecontext.getAllServiceReferences() like this: bundlecontext.getService(sr).getClass().toString() it prints a name i cannot locate if i look at the output from the "services" command (i.e. $Proxy30)
[15:52:27] <epic_> how should i do this correctly?
[15:52:56] <Tomasso> hi guys im using the rational software architect, and the right click contextual menues on project do not show up the correct menu, or it doesnt show anything... the rsa version is 7.0.0.9 do you think this issue is from eclipse or rational?
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[15:53:55] <rcjsuen> Tomasso: I guess one way to find out is install Eclipse (the version that corresponds to your RSA Eclipse base) and see if you hae the same problem
[15:54:45] <Tomasso> mhmh goood idea ..
[15:55:04] <NoobFukaure> Do you guys know if the new gtk+ stuff and swt has been resolved?
[15:55:23] <NoobFukaure> I'm debating upgrading to the newest ubuntu but I can't have eclipse being broken as a result
[15:55:24] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: I think part of it is on 3.6
[15:55:28] <rcjsuen> I dunno about _all_ of them.
[15:55:30] <NoobFukaure> ok thanks
[15:55:38] <rcjsuen> cuz bogdan put in a fix for 3.6m3
[15:55:50] <rcjsuen> ~287307
[15:55:52] <Arbalest> Bug 287307 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=287307 - Platform / SWT / 4.0 - PC / Linux - RESOLVED / FIXED / normal / - Assignee: gheorghe - [Widgets] [GTK2.18] Control.setZOrder broken on Gtk+ >= 2.17.3
[15:55:55] <rcjsuen> er m2 it seems
[15:56:02] <NoobFukaure> thanks
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[15:59:19] <flathm> paulweb515: thanks for the suggestions, the ui.start extension does the trick, although I admit it does feel a bit dirty.  I'd be happier if the plugin didn't need to load as soon as the workbench does
[15:59:27] <flathm> either way though at least it works :)
[15:59:51] <sloinn> can anybody deal with " No grammar constraints (DTD or XML schema) detected for   the document. " in xml editor ??? which ocurres even if the schema is defined ?
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[16:01:15] <Tomasso> the issue was an smvc plugn :)
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[16:05:18] <sloinn> nobody has the same issue ?
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[16:07:02] <sloinn> it's been like this since eclipse 3.2 ...in the default xml editors
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[16:24:37] <hopphopp> how do you use ecplise/svn for files that needs updating but shouldn't be checked in (java)?
[16:24:51] <hopphopp> i think i read somewhere about using templates for this task?
[16:25:00] <hopphopp> i am talking about
[16:25:05] <hopphopp> ooops
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[16:25:45] <hopphopp> i am talking about e.g., config beans where every developer need a different configuration
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[16:29:57] <hopphopp> hmm, found this http://agaric.com/exclude-a-file-from-svn-version-control
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[16:30:23] <hopphopp> but if i wasn't smart enough to think about it on beforehand, what can i do now?
[16:31:32] <palla|putty> anyone here ever tried visual studio ? how come the content assist is like 100 times slower than the visual studio content assist ?
[16:32:30] <rcjsuen> palla|putty: What prorgamming language are you using anyway?
[16:32:38] <rcjsuen> There's a default delay for Java of 200 milliseconds.
[16:32:44] <rcjsuen> you can turn to zero, maybe that'll help
[16:32:53] <palla|putty> i use Java with a bunch of libs
[16:33:08] <palla|putty> the thing is i would like it to work as fast as in visual studio
[16:33:40] <palla|putty> like, it i do a search for class names, it takes at least 2-3 seconds for it to return results
[16:33:57] <rcjsuen> search?
[16:33:58] <palla|putty> it should have all my class names in a hashtable or something for instant access
[16:34:02] <rcjsuen> You mean HaMap<Ctrl+Space>?
[16:34:08] <palla|putty> yeah
[16:34:25] <rcjsuen> seems fine to me, at least it is not 2-3 seconds
[16:34:28] <palla|putty> but i have Ctrl+Space only for local variables because of the speed issue
[16:34:39] <palla|putty> and Ctrl + Shift + Space for Classes
[16:34:48] <heshan> any one work with vtp plugin?
[16:34:59] <palla|putty> its like it scans my disc for the classnames everytime or something
[16:35:15] <matvrak_> i set my component as the TabItem's component by setComponent and specify the layout GridLayout for the component. i specify the component's layout data with GridData object with verticalAlignment = SWT.FILL. still, it doesn't take up all the available height in the tab. any ideas why not?
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[16:36:37] <rcjsuen> palla|putty: Don't know what to say, try in a new workspace and see if it's fast there. I know Google has reported speed issues. i don't know if you have as many classes as them.
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[16:36:48] <palla|putty> hmmm
[16:36:51] <rcjsuen> matvrak_: I don't think there's a setComponent method, I guess you meant setControl.
[16:37:01] <rcjsuen> if you have inner classes maybe
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[16:37:32] <matvrak_> rcjsuen: yes, that's what i meant
[16:37:51] <palla|putty> rcjsuen: could it be that it searches through a bunch of external libs, i have about 30 libs imported in total each with 1-n classes
[16:37:55] <rcjsuen> matvrak_: I can't really visualize what you're saying. For UI problems I suggest using ~imagebin with screenshots + ~pastebin for code.
[16:37:55] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[16:37:55] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[16:38:18] <matvrak_> good idea
[16:38:33] <rcjsuen> palla|putty: I had 300/500+ projects in my other workspace using a 3.4.x base and it's speedy there imo
[16:38:57] <palla|putty> ok
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[16:39:09] <palla|putty> then there must be something wrong with my eclipse or something
[16:39:12] <palla|putty> or the project setup
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[16:39:45] <rcjsuen> ah here's the google bug ~251156
[16:39:47] <Arbalest> Bug 251156 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=251156 - Platform / Text / 3.4 - All / All - ASSIGNED / enhancement / - Assignee: platform-text-inbox - [content assist] Implement code completion in the background [with patch]
[16:40:22] <palla|putty> rcjsuen: if i do a type-o and then press . i get to wait for around 5-6 seconds each time, well i will investigate it further
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[16:40:34] <palla|putty> thanx for the feedback
[16:45:21] <Kazagistar> karmic has updated to the newest eclipse version, very cool... where exactly am I supposed to extract a plugin that is released in zip file format only?
[16:46:20] <Magnet> in the dropins folder
[16:46:46] <Magnet> system-wide eclipse installs (like the ones managed by dpkg) usually aren't practical to work with
[16:47:17] <Kazagistar> do you know where the dropins folder is in ubuntu?
[16:47:39] <Magnet> nope
[16:47:58] <Magnet> I guess dpkg -L will tell you that
[16:48:05] <matvrak_> updatedb; locate dropins? :)
[16:48:24] <Magnet> that's the brutal way :)
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[16:57:03] <Kazagistar> /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/ was the only place it found, but it worked
[16:57:54] <matvrak_> Magnet: :D
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[17:06:46] <matvrak_> rcjsuen: http://pastebin.com/dcece36a ... button takes up entire tab area (which is what i want), while MyTab doesn't
[17:08:28] <rcjsuen> you need to set layoutdata for your MyTab i think
[17:08:31] <matvrak_> grabExcessVerticalSpace = true did the trick
[17:08:44] <matvrak_> i don't know why that is not assumed when i specifically ask it to SWT.FILL
[17:09:07] <rcjsuen> when you ask what to fill
[17:09:27] <rcjsuen> oh you mean gridData0.verticalAlignment = SWT.FILL;?
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[17:10:10] <Darkflare> Hi All, why in my eclipse when i try to generate a javadoc comment does it say 	/* (non-Javadoc) instead of generating a javadoc comment?
[17:10:26] <rcjsuen> With multiple columns that is certainly a scenario where that would matter. I guess for one column it is not a big deal, never bothered me. Making it more explicit is a good idea to other people reading the code anyway.
[17:10:43] <jmimi> hi all, I search for a plugin for editing jsp files, but i can not find any interesting , is there any suggestion?
[17:11:26] <matvrak_> rcjsuen: yes
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[17:13:37] <Magnet> Darkflare, only on overriden/derived methods, and my take is that it's because the Javadoc of the method declaration is the one which matters
[17:14:11] <Darkflare> Magnet i dont think it is though, is it possible ive got it misconfigured to generate Javadoc?
[17:14:51] <Magnet> Darkflare, well it can be reconfigured in JDT/Javadoc's preferences
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[17:18:35] <heshan> how serveletbridge works to handle JSP?
[17:18:46] <heshan> any referances?
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[17:20:12] <bobbytek> Is it possible to search attached sources?
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[17:22:51] <Darkflare> Magnet Thanks you where right, i went deeper and editor the correct method Thanks
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[17:57:11] <dogmeat> is there a setting to not clear the console after external builders/deligates launched? e.g. so everything output to console does not clear, until next complete build?
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[18:05:05] <stiv2k> hi, how can I generate a class diagram from existing source code? I have eclipse moding tools if that helps
[18:05:16] <stiv2k> existing JAVA source code that is
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[18:39:01] <dkaplowitz> hi gang. I'm getting "cannot satisfy dependency" when trying to install PDT using the guide from eclipse.org
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[18:39:42] <rcjsuen> You mean the wiki page?
[18:39:45] <dkaplowitz> this is ubuntu koala 9.10-RC 32-bit (oddly it worked @ home on a 64-bit box with the same os)
[18:39:48] <dkaplowitz> yes
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[18:41:19] <siphon> can anyone recommend me a good xml editor plugin for eclipse? The built-in one seems somewhat lacking... Checking for validity and well-formedness is tedious and the result isnt very useful..
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[18:45:21] <rcjsuen> dkaplowitz: you used the same builds and same update sites?
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[18:46:15] <dkaplowitz> @rcjsuen I used apt-get to install eclipse, which should be the same across 32 & 64-bit, and yes, I used the same update sites from that wiki howto for PDT
[18:46:42] <rcjsuen> dkaplowitz: dunno, you could try the binary from eclipse.org and see if you get the same problem
[18:48:14] <dkaplowitz> rcjsuen okay, i'll give that a shot. thx
[18:48:50] <nitind> siphon: Which built-in one do you mean?  How's it tedious?
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[18:53:18] <siphon> (nitind): uh, which? I just created an XML and thats it... guess it is the default one? It seems I have a problem with a dtd, at least I get an error about it, but it just says "right click on the message in the Problems View and select "Show Details..."" well no idea where I should click. Also every time I have to click on Validate in the right click menu, other editors have extra buttons for validity and well-formedness
[18:54:11] <siphon> plus, it doesn't tell me which attributes can be used in the element in the dtd, no idea if that is called auto-completion or so
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[18:54:40] <nitind> siphon: It literally means the Problems View, from the Window->Show View menu.  It has auto completion, and validates on the fly, but it sounds like it has some issues with your referenced DTD.
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[18:55:56] <NoobFukaure> why must ds factories be such a pita! :(
[18:57:43] <siphon> (nitind): well I defined an external and internal dtd and when I have both, it tells me the external one has errors and the same message is in the problems view, but no news on what is wrong. However, once I remove the internal one, it works. Though no completion
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[18:58:28] <nitind> siphon: Did you right-click on the message in the Problems View and choose Show Details?
[18:58:33] <siphon> ooh, you have to hit ctrl-space for completon? :/
[18:58:37] <siphon> *completion
[18:58:47] <nitind> siphon: All editors in Eclipse default to Ctrl+Space for that.
[18:59:29] <siphon> (nitind): Oh the shame :P forgot about that, the problem makes sense now
[18:59:37] <nitind> siphon: The preferences allow you to set auto-activation characters, which I think include '<',':', and '=', but it's not going to keep putting the proposals in your face like say, Visual Studio.
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[19:10:34] <guyzmo> hi
[19:11:10] <guyzmo> I got a weird behavior with eclipse, and reading from google, it seems I'm not the only one to get this... though I found no really working solution
[19:11:52] <guyzmo> when I change the main class' package name, the builder does not find anymore the class I'm trying to run
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[19:12:43] <guyzmo> having a : "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/package/my/MyClass
[19:13:18] <guyzmo> and I want to end this asap, I just finished my work and I need to send the jars :-S
[19:13:26] <nitind> what builder?  you mean your launcher?
[19:13:36] <guyzmo> launcher indeed
[19:14:06] <rcjsuen> a) clean your projects, b) check if the class files physically exist on disk
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[19:15:29] <guyzmo> rcjsuen - ok, thanks
[19:15:44] <guyzmo> that was because bin/ had .class with the old package names
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[19:16:00] <guyzmo> and I lost almost half an hour on that...
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[19:19:43] <rhk> guyzmo: did you just change the package declaration in the file, or refactor it?
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[19:20:49] <guyzmo> rhk - refactor
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[19:21:17] <guyzmo> actually it worked on one project but not on the otherc
[19:22:30] <guyzmo> I gotta go, but if you got any ideas, please hl me, I'm gonna come back tonight or tomorrow morning (and I'll idle meanwhile)... otherwise I'll reask then :p
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[19:40:32] <Rounin> Hello! I'm using Eclipse 3.2.2 on Linux to start a Java project from an existing source, and Eclipse is ignoring all the source files in the directory... Meanwhile, I tried connecting to a remote Windows box and doing it there, and there Eclipse could find the source files. Is there something special one needs to do to find existing source?
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[19:45:32] <Rounin> The Windows box uses Eclipse 3.2.1 instead of 3.2.2
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[19:54:55] <bobbytek> Is it possible to search attached sources?
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[20:05:22] <flathm> hey all here's a weird one.  If I enable a bundle activator for my plugin (even if it'
[20:05:25] <flathm> err sorry
[20:05:56] <flathm> even if it's blank, I get a ClassDefNotFound error while instantiating a class inside the bundle, but if I disable the activator, everything works fine
[20:06:03] <flathm> anyone have any idea what might be causing this?
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[20:59:04] <kaje> I am trying to use the debugger to debug some java code. For some reason, it only has "this" and "arg0", "arg1", "arg2", etc. In the variables list. None of the local variables show up. They used to show up, but for some reason they aren't now. Any ideas on what could be causing that?
[20:59:24] <kaje> If I hover over a local variable, it just gives me the type
[20:59:30] <kaje> I'm using Eclipse 3.5.1, btw
[20:59:58] <kaje> If I right click and click Inspect on a local variable, it just says that it cannot be resolved
[21:00:41] <rcjsuen> kaje: Is this the JRE's code or your own class?
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[21:03:45] <kaje> my own code
[21:06:47] <nitind> kaje: It's in a .java file, or a .class/.jar?
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[21:13:30] <kaje> my code is in a .class file I think
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[21:15:00] <kaje> Ahh, nevermind, nitind just clued me in.
[21:15:41] <kaje> I had run a script outside of eclipse that rebuilt my project and that must have screwed up Eclipse a little. To fix it, I cleaned and rebuilt the project inside of Eclipse. Thanks for the help guys
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[21:17:30] <nitind> kaje: Most likely when built outside of Eclipse, the debug information wasn't included in the .class files (javac's -g switch(es)).  For future reference.
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[21:18:05] <kaje> I see, thanks very much for the nudge =)
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[21:25:18] <NoobFukaure> it's a shame declarative services are useless for anything nontrivial
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[21:28:39] <nitind> You know, you keep saying things like that without much detail.
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[21:32:57] <zacktu> How can I shift a segment of code left or right the equivalent of a tab?
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[21:35:49] <nitind> zacktu: Select the line and hit STab or Shift+Tab.  It should also be on the Source menu.
[21:39:59] <zacktu> nitind: Yes, that worked.  I was expecting to find it on the Source, menu, but it's not.  I'm using Pydev.  Could that be a reason?
[21:41:38] <rcjsuen> I always assumed that was a known hotkey for shifting code to the left, but I guess not
[21:41:43] <rcjsuen> this would be the second or third time i hear someone ask this question
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[21:42:41] <zacktu> ntind: Thank you for your help.
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[21:48:35] <NoobFukaure> I need to create multiple instances of a service in the same bundle, any way to do that?
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[21:49:08] <jonkri> NoobFukaire asks for help... i thought you knew it all ;)
[21:49:36] <NoobFukaure> ha, not with eclipse I'm afraid
[21:49:43] <Serica> i heard that eclipse is using swt and thus gtk on linux,yet apparantly eclipse is not using standard gtk tabs. is there a reason for this?
[21:50:04] <rcjsuen> Serica: It uses standard tabs for like Ctrl+H
[21:50:11] <NoobFukaure> You can extend the native gui widgets within swt
[21:50:17] <rcjsuen> as to why i don't know if there's a particular reason, just to look cool and have curvy tabs i guess
[21:50:30] <rcjsuen> that was a decision made like 5 years ago
[21:50:41] <rcjsuen> altho i don't think even in 2.x if it used native tabs
[21:50:51] <rcjsuen> i guess that was when ctf was in UI and then 3.x got pushed down to swt
[21:50:59] <NoobFukaure> You can turn on classic mode and get regular tabs
[21:51:09] <Serica> ah, i see, thats a historical thing
[21:51:19] <rcjsuen> Serica: anyway it's been like this for a while, yeah
[21:51:25] <NoobFukaure> I personally like them more than gtk's anyway ;)
[21:51:37] <jonkri> so do i ;)
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[21:52:42] <NoobFukaure> I wonder what the logic was behind the 1 service per bundle concept
[21:53:05] <NoobFukaure> I mean 1 service per is a common use, but it's a shame that it's set in stone like that
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[22:04:53] <erdal> anyone knows how to use the cdt's remote gdb debugger?
[22:05:07] <erdal> it sais: remote connection must be selected
[22:05:16] <erdal> but there is nothing to select
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[22:18:57] <NoobFukaure> I guess I could try to dynamically inject bundles into equinox to get around the 1 service limit
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[23:59:33] <fupp> I'm getting error flushing content description and eclipse uses over 90% cpu...





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