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[00:18:57] <zabka_> hi, when i printf soemthing, where sould i see the output? there are 3 consoles by me, but i dont see any output in any of them.
[00:19:22] <zabka_> im debugging c apolication
[00:19:33] <zabka_> application
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[01:21:56] <SliMM> hello
[01:22:21] <SliMM> is there a javadoc-like documentation method for C++ in eclipse?
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[06:38:56] <heshan> any one work with Voice Tools Project Eclipse ?
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[06:42:16] <kkb110> I would like to get rid of middle one * everyline
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[06:43:47] <redtricycle> How do I install it?  I placed it into the plugins folder, but I get an error
[06:43:51] <redtricycle> "No repository found at jar:file:/"
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[08:01:38] <interstellar_cx> hi
[08:02:24] <interstellar_cx> I have a problem with ant4eclipse
[08:02:46] <interstellar_cx> I desribed it here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1606426/how-do-i-copy-all-referenced-jars-of-an-eclipse-project-using-ant4eclipse
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[09:18:59] <hopphopp> can someone explain what https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=8009 is about?
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[09:19:46] <hopphopp> i mean, i can open a new window with the same source file in and then drag this new window to the bottom, right or left edge to have another view of it
[09:19:59] <hopphopp> exactly what does 8009 add to that?
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[09:20:24] <heshan> how OSGi run in eclipse plugin? how can I use it?
[09:21:02] <jink> hopphopp: I have no idea.  I'm just quickly browsing through it, but what you're saying makes sense.
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[09:22:09] <stibotrac> yeah you can already have side-by-side editors
[09:22:13] <stibotrac> isn't that all it asks for?
[09:22:21] <stibotrac> (i didn't read the entire dialog on it)
[09:22:41] <jink> hopphopp: I think the crux is this: It's main flaw is dat the 2nd editor (which you docked below) will stay visible when you switch to another editor in the top area.  The idea of a split pane is dat both panes disappear and reappear when switching editors.  Split panes are really two editor inside one editor, not "another editor docked somewhere else".
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[09:22:51] <philk__> how can I change the image of an toolbars button during runtime?
[09:23:18] <stibotrac> that's already possible somehow, since some plugins do that (e.g. subclipse)
[09:23:28] <stibotrac> when doing comparisons of files for example
[09:24:04] <hopphopp> jink: ok, i see. still it feels like nitpicking ;-)
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[09:24:55] <stibotrac> well i guess not, since the text compare only lets you edit in 1 side
[09:25:29] <stibotrac> course, that's cuz the other file is part of the repos archive
[09:25:33] <jink> stibotrac: In a comparison you can edit both sides, unless the other side is from svn, for example.
[09:25:38] <stibotrac> yeah
[09:25:49] <stibotrac> anyway, seems like a silly bug imo
[09:27:13] <jink> It's not a bug, it's a feature request. :)
[09:27:18] <stibotrac> i know
[09:27:46] <stibotrac> IMO i'm amused there's so much discussion over what i consider a trivial difference to an already implemented feature
[09:28:04] <stibotrac> perhaps i'm missing something
[09:28:24] <stibotrac> what's hard about right-lick -> 'New Editor' and dragging it somewhere
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[09:41:54] <heshan> what OSGi do in Eclipse?
[09:47:51] <heshan> what OSGi do in Eclipse? equinox?
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[10:33:01] <philk_> heshan: yes, equinox is the OSGi implementation in Eclipse
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[10:52:32] <heshan> philk_: equinox is grneration servlet bridge?
[10:53:23] <heshan> philk_: when I export my vtp plugin application I can see servletbridge.jar file exists, is it from equinox?
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[11:33:04] <philk_> heshan: sorry, I do not know about this servletbridge.jar. But it does not seem to be a part of equinox
[11:35:08] <philk_> paulweb515: I have a toolbar button contribution that I want to change the image of, when a certain state in the system changes. I also want to enable/disable the contribution depending on the state. How would I do that programmatically? Would I have to register an IUIElement with the command service?
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[11:40:35] <heshan> philk_: I thought it was cause of http://www.eclipse.org/equinox/server/ stating come servletbridge.jar
[11:40:38] <heshan> what is that?
[11:41:07] <philk_> heshan: never used that. sorry, cannot help.
[11:41:31] <heshan> philk_: thanks nway
[11:41:32] <heshan> :)
[11:41:54] <heshan> philk_:you know equinox well?
[11:42:34] <erdal> servletbridge.jar: that bridges the equinox runtime to your servlet container
[11:42:48] <PrakashGR> philk_: yes, registering the UIElement will help you updating the appearance of the contribution
[11:42:56] <erdal> it is part of equinox server
[11:44:04] <heshan> erdal:Thanks, I'm trying to understand vtp plugin, its quite hard to understand
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[11:45:43] <heshan> erdal: if we are  using Equinox then do we need to custamize the servletbridge.jar to bridge to our servlet?
[11:45:57] <erdal> no, i do not think
[11:46:23] <erdal> its just there to let your tomcat-servlets interact with the equinox runtime
[11:46:31] <mastro> I'm using eclipse 3.4.1 (ganimede). My collegues can search for "JSP", "XML" and any other files by just typing in the "OpenType" dialog. For me that just work on .java files... Is there some options that had to be configured or I had to install some plugin?
[11:47:58] <philk_> PrakashGR: and thats the only way? I think you showed that in a tutorial of yours, didn't you?
[11:49:31] <heshan> erdal: when I export I need to write the correct web.xml and save servletbridge.jar to map with it?
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[11:49:48] <PrakashGR> philk_: your handler can implement IElementUpdater
[11:49:56] <erdal> i used that to run an eclipse RAP app in tomcat
[11:50:07] <erdal> i just added that into the shared libs of tomcat
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[11:50:56] <heshan> erdal: you know vtp pligin?
[11:51:02] <erdal> no ;-)
[11:51:07] <philk_> PrakashGR: I know, it already does. But the state of the system can change and so I must force the command to update itself
[11:52:24] <erdal> heshan: what is that, anyways?
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[11:53:25] <heshan>  erdal: http://www.eclipse.org/vtp/
[11:53:51] <heshan>  erdal: I'm trying to understand it :P
[11:54:14] <erdal> i see, and you want to run it in a servlet container?
[11:55:46] <heshan>  erdal: no no, I just created a app and exported it to a war file, I can see serveletbridge.jsr is there, need to know how its works
[11:56:11] <heshan> I cannot see any vtp method is calling inside that servelatbridge.jar
[11:56:49] <erdal> heshan: but that war file must be run in a servlet container
[11:57:47] <erdal> in tomcat, i would just install that war and run it
[11:57:55] <heshan>  erdal: I'm not an expert in JSP, so quite hard to understand this process
[11:58:21] <erdal> are there no docs describing how to install vtp?
[11:58:33] <erdal> or how to use it in your target platform
[11:58:43] <heshan> not much
[11:58:55] <heshan> lack of help
[11:59:12] <heshan> I think this project bind with Equinox
[11:59:14] <heshan> isn't it?
[11:59:27] <heshan> so read some Equinox
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[12:02:49] <heshan>  erdal: does serveletbridge.jar is calling vtp servelet? how it identify?
[12:03:04] <PrakashGR> philk_: I think what you are asking for is ICommandService.refreshElements() ?
[12:03:50] <erdal> heshan: i think, it makes all osgi servlets available in your servlet container
[12:05:15] <erdal> but i guess, you would get more help on the forums of vtp
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[12:05:23] <heshan> erdal: hmm
[12:05:48] <heshan> erdal: I'm going through the code and trying to understand
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[12:09:31] <philk_> PrakashGR: yes
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[12:18:38] <heshan> erdal:you know what org.eclipse.equinox.servletbridge?
[12:19:01] <erdal> that is the same as servletbridge.jar
[12:19:04] <heshan>  erdal:  http://www.eclipse.org/equinox/server/http_in_container.php
[12:19:10] <heshan> see there
[12:19:23] <heshan> *Launches the framework and provides a place for the framework to hook back into the servlet container.*
[12:20:08] <erdal> yes, that is what i told to you: it bridges the equinox runtime to your servlet container (tomcat)
[12:20:15] <heshan> erdal: it loads OSGi? and allow other servelets to use its hooks?
[12:20:16] <heshan> isntit?
[12:20:34] <erdal> yes, it loads osgi
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[12:23:54] <heshan>  erdal: but I have a question here, how vtp is runnig? how its servelat is calling, it should handle by serveletbridge.jar I guess
[12:24:29] <mastro> forget it :) CTRL+SHIFT+R
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[12:25:34] <gantu> Hi, I have a trouble in integrating JBoss with Eclipse ganymede
[12:25:41] <erdal> i've never used vtp, but generally, when eclipse plugins want to run in a servlet container, they need the servlet bridge...
[12:26:27] <gantu> when i try to add new server int gives me Missing classpath entry mail.jar error
[12:27:09] <heshan> erdal: got it, I can hook to serveletbridge, then it will invoke plugin servelet rite?
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[12:32:47] <erdal> heshan: this is similar to your problem: http://wiki.eclipse.org/RAP/WAR_Deployment_with_products
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[12:39:28] <heshan> erdal: thanks
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[13:02:59] <keya> Hi. I have a popup menu action that implements IObjectActionDelegate.  After the action is performed I want to notify the user about it's success/failure on the status bar.  Will I need to run the entire steps of the action in a Job or is there some other standard way that performs the task in Eclipse?
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[13:21:52] <paulweb515> keya: the default status bar information is provided by the currently active part.
[13:22:19] <paulweb515> keya: you would either need to figure out how to hook into a general one (and hope no part is active) or add your own status-like contribution to the bottom trim area
[13:22:23] <interstellar_cx> I have a problem with ant4eclipse
[13:22:26] <interstellar_cx> I desribed it here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1606426/how-do-i-copy-all-referenced-jars-of-an-eclipse-project-using-ant4eclipse
[13:22:57] <paulweb515> keya: Is it not obvious to the user what the action did?
[13:23:10] <keya> paulweb515:  Okay.  Yeah adding a new trim area is an option.
[13:23:27] <keya> paulweb515: mm no, a success or failure prompt needs to be provided.
[13:24:56] <keya> paulweb515: Was wondering if there are any standard API calls where I can set a message to the status bar.  I also have another need to keep it visible for at least couple of minutes.
[13:25:22] <keya> paulweb515: Probably will then just add a menu item and destroy it at the end.
[13:25:58] <paulweb515> keya: the parts do: getEditorSite().getActionBars().getStatusLineManager() (or getViewSite())
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[13:26:18] <paulweb515> keya: there's also a window level version, but I'm not sure which API exposes it
[13:26:44] <keya> paulweb515: Oh okay.  I don't have but an Editor or a view.  I just have an Action.
[13:27:33] <keya> paulweb515:  Creating a new IStatusLineManager and setting message to it won't work right?
[13:28:03] <paulweb515> keya: no, that won't work
[13:28:09] <keya> paulweb515: Okay.
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[13:35:26] <ioanbsu> Hello, folks. Can anyone help me. I'm using eclipse 3.5 and all the time when I try to ser Xmx more then 588m  it shows an alert and does not even start up
[13:35:49] <ioanbsu> i'm setting Xmx in eclipse.ini
[13:36:15] <rcjsuen> That sounds vaguely familiar though I thought the limit was higher.
[13:36:55] <ioanbsu> yes, cause friend of my successfully set up 768m and eclipse works for him fine
[13:37:06] <ioanbsu> btw i have 2Gb of ram
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[13:41:30] <rcjsuen> What does your eclipse.ini look like? Did you compare yours with theirs?
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[13:42:27] <ioanbsu> Yes I did. I've just changed -- to - in places like: --launcher.XXMaxPermSize
[13:42:40] <ioanbsu>  and changed -Xmx512 to -Xmx1024
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[13:43:40] <ioanbsu> when it was set --launcher.XXMaxPermSize (I mean it were two"--") the eclipse also refused to start
[13:43:54] <rcjsuen> so what does your ini file look like
[13:45:39] <ioanbsu> I'm afraid to insert whole the file in chat
[13:45:46] <ioanbsu>  cause it will drop me off
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[13:46:05] <ioanbsu> this is the last 3 linse at the moment.
[13:46:56] <rcjsuen> Use a ~pastebin then.
[13:46:57] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[13:47:08] <ioanbsu> ~pastebin
[13:47:09] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[13:47:42] <ioanbsu> http://www.pastebin.cz/24605
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[13:48:47] <rcjsuen> launcher args need -- not one
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[13:49:03] <rcjsuen> I don't know what you're trying to achieve on line 12-14
[13:49:06] <rcjsuen> delete line 14
[13:49:15] <rcjsuen> replace 13 with c:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_01\bin\java.exe just in case
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[13:49:19] <elyezer> I've exported the plug-in that I've create how can I install it? I tried to copy it to the plugins folder, but the preferences don't appear in the preference dialog
[13:50:57] <ioanbsu> I also don't know :) I'm really new to eclipse
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[13:51:08] <ioanbsu> thank You. I'll check this out.
[13:51:38] <paulweb515> elyezer: for 3.4 on you would put a plugin in ~dropins
[13:51:38] <Arbalest> To learn about how to use the dropins/ folder provided by p2, see here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Getting_Started#Dropins
[13:51:45] <paulweb515> that's for one off deployments and testing
[13:52:14] <paulweb515> elyezer: for something that can actually be updated or installed, you would follow the standard practice of plugin in a feature in a site
[13:52:33] <elyezer> paulweb515: thank you
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[13:53:11] <ioanbsu> yes, this worked for me. Than k You very much.
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[13:55:18] <qwe_> hello. What's the keyboard shortcut to autoalign code?
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[13:55:42] <rcjsuen> qwe_: If supported, I guess default is Ctrl+Shift+F?
[13:56:02] <keya> paulweb515: Hi, on the same question of displaying message on the status bar, if I go with creating a trim area widget and setting message label to it, so will the area be occupied at the status bar all the time with it's message set to null on other times or is it possible to create that time area  on the fly?
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[13:56:17] <qwe_> <rcjsuen>: Indeed it is. Thank you.
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[14:01:00] <veiz> hi~ does CDT available in 3.6m2?
[14:01:27] <veiz> Is there a custom build with cdt + 3.6m2?
[14:01:35] <rcjsuen> I think EPP has been spinning builds.
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[15:01:14] <broko> How can I disable hot code replacement in a debug session?
[15:01:37] <rcjsuen> maybe in the prefs you can try
[15:02:26] <broko> rcjsuen: Under Run/Debug?
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[15:04:33] <broko> rcjsuen: I can't find anything under Run/Debug which is related to hot code replacement.
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[15:05:47] <rcjsuen> broko: Check Java?
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[15:09:29] <broko> rcjsuen: Under Java, Debug are some settings for hot code replacement. But nothing to disable it.
[15:09:48] <keya> Is it possible for a plug-in to access IActionBarConfigurer instance that's create by the Workbench?
[15:10:03] <rcjsuen> keya: Unlikely. At least, probably not without using internals.
[15:10:17] <rcjsuen> broko: Youcan turn off build automatically but that'd be highly annoying I guess.
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[15:11:00] <keya> rcjsuen: Yeah.  Okay.
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[15:11:42] <keya> rcjsuen:  Can I create a Trim Menu programmatically?
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[15:12:54] <rcjsuen> dunno, probably not
[15:15:16] <keya> rcjsuen: Okay.  Thanks.
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[15:45:46] <lhunath> I've been an idiot and broke all my changes in my codebase since my last commit.  however, it's all still in eclipse's local history.  how would I revert every file in my workspace to "previous from local history"?
[15:46:40] <lhunath> (considdering I have around a few thousand source files, so I'd like to not iterate them manually.)
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[15:50:30] <paulweb515> lhunath: can you select multiple resources and still see that option?
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[15:51:46] <lhunath> paulweb515: grayed out when some files have no local history.
[15:52:11] <lhunath> actually; always grayed out when selecting multiple files.
[15:52:22] <keya> Hi, is there support for small pop-up notifications in SWT similar to what comes in MS Word etc software to provide little hints or something to the user?
[15:52:37] <ioanbsu> Hello, guys. Can You please help me. I'm new to eclipse. Is there any way to say that a project is a web project and flex project both. I've just checked-out it from svn and now it just like a sipmle project.
[15:53:36] <ioanbsu> But I want it to make a fully compiled project. So first flex part is compiling and after that web part is compiling with a war file as a final compile output.
[15:53:54] <krbarnes> keya: there's a Tooltip class in SWT. Or you can create a Shell with ON_TOP if you want more advanced features
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[15:55:23] <magnet> ioanbsu, yes, a project can have many natures
[15:55:54] <magnet> however I don't know the specifics of a "web" or a "flex" project
[15:57:16] <ioanbsu> thanks for the information. does anyone know how the natures can be changed after the project has been already created?
[15:57:19] <keya> krbarnes: Thanks.  That sounds good.  Can you give me more pointers on it's usage?
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[15:57:44] <cantoma> guys, is it possible to move the workspace folder without breaking the projects path??
[15:57:55] <krbarnes> keya: http://eclipse.org/swt/snippets/
[15:58:11] <keya> ioanbsu: When you check out, I believe you should do it as creating a new project of required types.
[15:58:14] <rcjsuen> That would highly depend on where the projects are I guess.
[15:58:19] <magnet> ioanbsu, usually there are graphical tools to do that. (for instance, PDE > Add plugin nature). But the information is stored in the .project file and you can edit it manually if you know the nature Id
[15:58:39] <cantoma> rcjsuen, they are in the folder of the workspace. Like workspace\project1
[15:58:41] <magnet> (do that at your own risks ;)
[15:59:04] <rcjsuen> cantoma: Dun think it'll matter.
[15:59:11] <cantoma> rcjsuen, now he says that he doesn't find the projects
[15:59:20] <rcjsuen> He?
[15:59:37] <ioanbsu> I can not do it at the checkout stage cause I need multiple natures.
[15:59:42] <cantoma> rcjsuen, he says that the project descriptor file is missing
[16:00:03] <cantoma> when i try to open the project
[16:00:12] <rcjsuen> ioanbsu: Then manually add natures if you have to then.
[16:00:37] <ioanbsu> ok, I'll try... thanks
[16:00:45] <atpa8a> hmm
[16:00:52] <rcjsuen> cantoma: Don't think I've had that problem though I don't follow that workflow very often.
[16:00:54] <atpa8a> what's the status of jetty 7 adapter?
[16:01:37] <cantoma> rcjsuen, which workflow did you follow?
[16:01:54] <rcjsuen> cantoma: Well, I don't rename my workspaces :o
[16:02:07] <rcjsuen> though i did that last week (on XP) and it didn't matter
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[16:09:04] <cantoma> rcjsuen, so probably this question would solve the problem. If you have 30 projects inside a folder and you wish to move the folder. Would you update one by one in eclipse in order to find them?
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[16:25:59] <rcjsuen> cantoma: I would move it, and hopefully it'll work (it worked for me).
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[16:26:07] <rcjsuen> cantoma: or make a new workspace, then use the import wizard
[16:26:11] <rcjsuen> and point at the old one,a nd bring those in
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[17:25:44] <anu> How can we minimize editor programatically? I want the application to start with minimized editor.
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[17:27:57] <jonasfa> Hi all... My Ruby project has many tests.. How can i run all tests together?
[17:28:14] <jonasfa> I can run them one at once
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[17:29:17] <Kpfre> hi there
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[17:32:53] <Kpfre> question: after finishing debugging, if i press "Terminate" the debugging stops? i know this question may seem odd, but in Visual Studio, when you stop debugging, the view changes to normal, and in Eclipse it remains in debug perspective
[17:34:50] <rcjsuen> Kpfre: That's correct the perspective wll not change back.
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[17:36:47] <Kpfre> rcjsuen: i see. now, if the debugging indeed ends, why do i still see "next step", "resume" etc. on my Run menu?
[17:37:19] <rcjsuen> dunno
[17:37:42] <Kpfre> rcjsuen: do you normally see those?
[17:38:04] <Kpfre> "step into", "step over" ...
[17:39:47] <rcjsuen> I see those in the debug perspective, yes.
[17:40:30] <Kpfre> and in the regular perspective?
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[17:41:29] <rcjsuen> don't see them
[17:42:33] <Kpfre> wait, i want to be sure we're looking at the same thing
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[17:47:44] <Kpfre> rcjsuen: http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9926/ecps.jpg
[17:48:20] <rcjsuen> they don't show up for me in java or team or whatever
[17:48:35] <rcjsuen> admittedly if they did don't think i'd really care or ever notice
[17:49:31] <Kpfre> rcjsuen: well, they appeared after the first time i used the debug option
[17:49:57] <Kpfre> i guess it has to do with that
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[17:50:40] <rmrfslash> Does anyone know of a plugin for eclipse so that I can interact with a shell (for linux)?
[17:51:11] <rmrfslash> rather than flipping back and forth between an actual terminal application and eclipse
[17:51:45] <Kpfre> thank u rcjsuen
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[17:52:58] <magnet> rmrfslash, recently someone asked the same and told me the best he found was to use the RSE plugin and login ssh locally
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[17:53:45] <magnet> (after spending a few hours testing different plugins, he was fully satisfied with RSE, even if not using ssh would certainly be better)
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[17:56:00] <rmrfslash> I may use this if I cannot find anything else
[17:56:15] <rmrfslash> though I don't know if this would even be more convenient
[17:56:55] <magnet> well he told me it worked fine really
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[18:06:53] <rmrfslash> "wicked shell" is cool... but a little messed up
[18:07:01] <rmrfslash> characters are messed upt
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[18:24:30] <mwolf9> where can i find a build of Eclipse 3.5.0?
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[18:25:55] <rcjsuen> ~sdk-dl
[18:25:55] <Arbalest> Looking for different versions (including past and developmental releases) and/or platforms for the Eclipse SDK or any of the base Eclipse bundles? See http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[18:26:45] <broko> ~?
[18:27:00] <mwolf9> awesome ty
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[18:42:17] <Kpfre> hi again
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[18:42:33] <brwnphyscst> Hey guys.
[18:42:46] <brwnphyscst> I have asked about this previously, however, I never get an answer.
[18:43:14] <brwnphyscst> How do I get javaee javadocs from the api to display in eclipse, when using a javaee project?
[18:43:34] <Kpfre> i wrote a 5 lines program and i want to run it as i used to, in a dos window. when i run it, i don't see any dos window, just the console on the lower toolbar
[18:44:06] <rcjsuen> Kpfre: no out-of-the-box support, it will use the 'Console' view, not a cmd.exe
[18:44:31] <Kpfre> <rcjsuen>: i see
[18:44:49] <Kpfre> <rcjsuen>: is there a way to "make it" do that?
[18:45:01] <rcjsuen> Pretty sure no, I've never tried.
[18:45:13] <rcjsuen> if it was you'd need 3rd-party plug-ins
[18:45:37] <Kpfre> <rcjsuen>: and another question: when using that console, i can still get input from keyboard?
[18:45:51] <rcjsuen> works for me anyway
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[18:47:14] <Kpfre> that thing refuses to run :/
[18:47:46] <rcjsuen> what are you writing anyway, Java? C?
[18:48:32] <brwnphyscst> Right-click on the java program with the main method in it. and choose , "Run-file". It should come up in an emulator or "console."  Why do you need it to specifically come up in a "dos" or cmd shell, when you have access to the same environmental aspects. I have noticed that the ctrl-D options don't get recognized within the console, as if being buffered by some auxiliary input parser that we don't see.
[18:49:55] <rcjsuen> you'd need a real shell if you use System.console()
[18:51:19] <Kpfre> <rcjsuen>: well, nothing fancy yet, just examining eclipse. its going to be the official IDE in my programming course
[18:52:22] <Kpfre> <brwnphyscst>: on some of the tutorials we got, they used methods that get input untill you get EOF (C programs)
[18:52:47] <Kpfre> <brwnphyscst>: and to my understanding, EOF is Ctrl Z in windows and Ctrl D in Unix
[18:52:58] <brwnphyscst> Wow. What type of course is it?  I would have loved to have taken a programming course that used something other than .Net, so as to give more experience with a better, "overall" ide. (meaning that it does other stuff than just allow you to program in something that microsoft gets money for...)
[18:53:59] <Kpfre> yeah actually i did notice its kinda better from the first method i wrote :)
[18:54:36] <Kpfre> its a course of 2nd semester from a Computer Science degree
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[18:55:43] <brwnphyscst> Well, in that case, I have seen the EOF work, however, manual closures of an input byte stream usually doesn't.  usually if you are looking for an empty, or null Scanner input from readLine, etc... In order to test that with manual console input, you have to use ctrl-D to end this stream, however, I have had trouble with getting the console to recognize this input as "EOF" so I had to test it using the indigenous shell.  I think it is ctrl-Z on my u
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[18:56:58] <brwnphyscst> If you run into an input loop that won't stop, and actually work on the imput, after you have stopped it, with a ctrl-D/ctrl-Z command, then that is why, however, everything else should work... This is probably what rcjsuen: meant when referencing System.console().
[18:58:52] <Kpfre> i see
[18:59:03] <brwnphyscst> Sorry, I just saw that you reference that you are actually using the manual "EOF" like I was talking about, so I gues you should just test it using a real cmd shell.
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[18:59:13] <Kpfre> meanwhile it wont run ://
[18:59:36] <brwnphyscst> What are you doing? Can't you just put the input into a file, and pipe it to the program?
[19:00:45] <brwnphyscst> "java [someprogram] < [tempInputDocument] "
[19:01:43] <Kpfre> i can, just want to start small and then do "big" things like that
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[19:03:34] <Kpfre> here's what i did: http://codepad.org/OsS7PKFa . after writing it i pressed Project --> Build Project. when build ended, i pressed Run --> Run as --> Local ...
[19:03:44] <mwolf9> can someone tell me what this error means?
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[19:04:00] <mwolf9> this occurs during a pde export
[19:04:14] <Kpfre> <brwnphyscst>: and it wont run, i just see lines added to the Debug window
[19:04:33] <mwolf9> it does not happen if i have generate meta data repository un selected
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[19:21:28] <Kpfre> interesting. i suspect i was in debug mode all along
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[19:22:02] <Kpfre> how do you turn off debug mode after entering it? isn't it enough to press "terminate"?
[19:24:36] <rcjsuen> well, when your application terminates, you are no longer debugging it
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[19:24:46] <nothing12345> why is my timer not working in eclipse when I dont do anything after timer.start()
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[19:25:48] <rcjsuen> nothing12345: Does it work from the command line?
[19:25:57] <nothing12345> ye
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[19:26:02] <nothing12345> also in other IDE's
[19:26:26] <nothing12345> it works in eclipse too, but just if I do anything else after timer.start()
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[19:27:22] <nullPlan> hi
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[19:27:57] <nullPlan> is there a method to execute a commandhandler by code (not over menu or toolbar or shortcut)
[19:27:59] <nullPlan> ?
[19:29:19] <Kpfre> rcjsuen: it appears that i was in debug mode :/  now i no longer see "Step in", "Resume" etc. on the Run menu
[19:30:09] <rcjsuen> nullPlan: if you know your command then you can use IHandlerService/ICommandService
[19:30:54] <Kpfre> and when it does run, the console behaves oddly. i used printf("something") then scanf("%d", &k); then when i ran the program, it wont display the message, and will print something in console only after i enter a number
[19:31:04] <nullPlan> thank you, rcjsuen
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[20:00:54] <nullPlan> is there a way to convert SelectionEvent to an Event? cast doesn't wort
[20:00:56] <nullPlan> work
[20:01:16] <paulweb515> nullPlan: you mean an SWT selection event?
[20:01:23] <paulweb515> nullPlan: I don't think so, but I'm not sure
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[20:01:51] <Bilge> Honestly, how much bullshit is it that I can't delete a network folder that no longer exists because it is "out of sync with the filesystem" and which can never be "in sync" with the file system again because it no longer exists!
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[20:02:56] <nullPlan> paulweb515: yes i mean SWT - for a command handler i need the event to get the shell, but the call comes from a selection event
[20:03:50] <paulweb515> nullPlan: if you just pass in null and then ask your ExecutionEvent for a shell, does that work?  HandlerUtil has convenience methods for getting that info
[20:07:07] <nullPlan> paulweb515: if i pass in null, which event should i use as the ExecutionEvent?
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[20:08:46] <nullPlan> nevermind
[20:08:51] <nullPlan> got the shell this way PlatformUI.getWorkbench().getDisplay()
[20:08:51] <nullPlan> 		.getActiveShell();
[20:09:04] <nullPlan> just noticed that i don't need the vent at all
[20:10:58] <chuckr> I'm trying to collect all of the dependencies to buid eclipse 3.5.1, but one of them, the "CDC" 1.0 or 1.1, I don't recognize it.  Any idea what it is, or where I might find it?
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[20:13:12] <chuckr> another hint, it's named "CDC/Foundation, and often seems named with Java/RMI.  Is it maybe part of Java RMI?
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[20:27:13] <chuckr> OK.  I've seen more, and I am wondering if that CDC thing might have something to do with Java/ME ... would it REALLY be a firm prerequisite for EClipse 3.5.1?  I have a very complete JDK1.6.0, so maybe I have that CDC here already and I don't even know it?
[20:27:22] <arudil> hello. what does eclipse do, if it finds two different versions of a plugin in eclipse/plugins?
[20:28:34] <chuckr> I would guess that it would show you a menu and ask you which one you want installed.  That's what my eclipse 3.4.2 has been doing for me.
[20:30:09] <arudil> taht would be smart. but no window here :\
[20:31:43] <arudil> hm.. there's an update button in the plugin-window-thing
[20:31:51] <arudil> seems to do something fine
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[20:33:55] <chuckr> I can't honestly offer you any more, I want my own questions answered
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[20:45:02] <nitind> chuckr: You should have a superset of CDC-1.x, but it's not as good as having a real one set up in the preferences.
[20:49:30] <rcjsuen> chuckr: if you're just trying to build it, having J2SE-1.4+ as a jre should be good enough
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[21:05:41] <NoobFukaire> for building an update site with one feature headlessly, what script are you supposed to use?
[21:06:17] <NoobFukaire> I've done a product build using productBuild.xml from the pde plugin, but I can't find any reference to the ant script you use for features/update sites?
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[21:08:45] <paulweb515> NoobFukaire: it's under eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build_3.5.100.N20091022-2000/scripts/build.xml
[21:09:40] <paulweb515> NoobFukaire: the matching templates are under eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build_3.5.100.N20091022-2000/templates/headless-build
[21:09:52] <paulweb515> i.e. customTargets.xml and build.properties
[21:10:04] <NoobFukaire> yeah I've tried those except for custom targets
[21:10:14] <NoobFukaire> the PDE docs are kind of sparse
[21:10:19] <paulweb515> you can add something to build.properties to get it to generate an update site automatically
[21:10:27] <NoobFukaire> oh maybe I was missing that
[21:11:16] <paulweb515> NoobFukaire: ex: http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.pde.doc.user/tasks/pde_p2_featurebuilds.htm
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[21:12:53] <NoobFukaire> oh I didn't know p2 was involved in this stage of the game
[21:13:07] <NoobFukaire> I thought it was just for managing local configurations, etc
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[21:16:05] <NoobFukaire> paulweb515: Do I need to manually copy my plugins and features into my build project with this? I didn't have to do that for a product build
[21:16:24] <NoobFukaire> with the pdescript/scripts/build.xml
[21:17:43] <paulweb515> NoobFukaire: no, I would think it works the same way.  You need to know where your map files are
[21:17:57] <paulweb515> That determines where you projects are
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[21:30:17] <NoobFukaire> in my build.properties for the feature build
[21:30:20] <NoobFukaire> the template has
[21:30:21] <NoobFukaire> pluginPath is a list of locations in which to find plugins and features.
[21:31:06] <NoobFukaire> the description seems to want either a list of bundle folders/jars, a feature/plugin directory or an xml file
[21:31:19] <NoobFukaire> oh maybe the feature.xml
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[21:35:04] <paulweb515> NoobFukaire: we don't usually use pluginPath
[21:35:09] <paulweb515> NoobFukaire: that's for the more complex installs
[21:35:34] <paulweb515> NoobFukaire: usually you just set up a base location
[21:35:43] <paulweb515> (that contains the eclipse you want to build against)
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[21:36:17] <NoobFukaire> like baseLocation would be eclipse's home dir with a features and plugin directories right?
[21:36:36] <NoobFukaire> <property name="baseLocation" value="${eclipse.home}"/>
[21:36:36] <NoobFukaire>
[21:36:39] <NoobFukaire> that's what I have
[21:36:41] <paulweb515> NoobFukaire: yes, it points to .../eclipse
[21:36:55] <paulweb515> NoobFukaire: for example, I recently set up a project to build a feature and some plugins: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/platform-incubator/ui/org.eclipse.ui.automated.build/org.eclipse.ui.releng/
[21:37:31] <paulweb515> NoobFukaire: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/platform-incubator/ui/org.eclipse.ui.automated.build/org.eclipse.ui.releng/builder/build.properties?view=co
[21:37:42] <paulweb515> you could diff that against the default to see what I changed
[21:38:03] <shadowhywind> Hay all, When my project builds, if I get any errors at all, I have to manually when Project->clean , and then rebuild the project in order to get rid of the errors, there must be a quicker way, any ideas?
[21:38:13] <NoobFukaire> paulweb515: ok thanks
[21:38:15] <paulweb515> anywho, I gotta run
[21:38:21] <NoobFukaire> I think part of my problem is that I went product->feature
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[21:59:35] <NoobFukaire> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/pde-build-dev/msg00559.html
[21:59:46] <NoobFukaire> err
[21:59:47] <NoobFukaire> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/pde-build-dev/msg00558.html
[21:59:51] <NoobFukaire> this guy has the same problem I am having
[22:00:04] <NoobFukaire> if you look at the first link I pasted, wtf is he talking about?
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[22:00:24] <NoobFukaire> my projects are all in the workspace directory
[22:00:29] <NoobFukaire> features, plugins, etc
[22:00:38] <NoobFukaire> I don't have some kind of separate features/plugins directories in there
[22:01:16] <NoobFukaire> but I can't use build pde because "baseLocation" wants feature/plugin directories
[22:01:32] <NoobFukaire> I really don't get wtf is required to build features headlessly
[22:01:48] <NoobFukaire> do I need to build them on my own, sort them into a features and plugins dir then hand it off to PDE? doesn't make any sense
[22:02:37] <NoobFukaire> although unlike the above link
[22:02:59] <NoobFukaire> I don't have any feature dependencies warnings, only completely unrelated eclipse stuff the feature doesn't depend on in anyway like:
[22:03:00] <NoobFukaire> Some inter-plug-in dependencies have not been satisfied.
[22:03:01] <NoobFukaire> [eclipse.buildScript] Bundle org.eclipse.pde.doc.user:
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[22:05:45] <boxfire> So I have a problem.  I upgraded GCC and all of my projects still include the old path for includes in the toolchain settings, as well as the new ones.  Selecting them does not have a delete option, and there are no project specific settings.  Where do I modify the global CDT tool chain?
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[22:10:45] <NoobFukaire> its funny how the gui export features exports flawlessly and the PDE one is a giant pain in the ass
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[22:13:45] <NoobFukaire> PDE headless rather
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[22:38:27] <NoobFukaire> fuck
[22:38:49] <NoobFukaire> I just created a simple feature with two dummy plugins and I get the same crazy as fuck errors
[22:39:27] <NoobFukaire> http://pastebin.com/m3fe35065
[22:39:54] <NoobFukaire>  /home/tmack/old/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build_3.5.1.R35x_20090820/scripts/genericTargets.xml:106: Unable to find feature: FUCKPDESUCKS.
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[23:09:51] <NoobFukaire> alrighty
[23:09:56] <NoobFukaire> time to throw my hands up
[23:10:11] <NoobFukaire> PDE headless feature builds have defeated me
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[23:33:40] <Clemens> does anyone know how I can change the svn resource URL ?
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