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[00:09:32] <wifs> marcosRz: 'ant -diagnostics' should let you know what jar files your ant has in it's CLASSPATH
[00:09:44] <wifs> this can differ inside eclipse vs. on cmdline
[00:10:40] <marcosRz> I think the main problem is that on cli I'm using standart jse to run ant
[00:11:09] <marcosRz> and on the project I'm using other platform (phoneME) wich is likea 'tiny' VM for set-top-boxes...
[00:11:17] <marcosRz> that has a subset of jse
[00:11:45] <marcosRz> and I think that ant is being run with that vm
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[00:12:48] <rcjsuen> i'd be surprised if Ant could run on that
[00:12:57] <rcjsuen> anyway the launcch config would tell you more
[00:13:33] <marcosRz> oh
[00:13:34] <marcosRz> :D
[00:13:37] <marcosRz> going to try that
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[00:16:50] <marcosRz> woot
[00:16:51] <marcosRz> it worked
[00:16:53] <marcosRz> :D
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[01:17:22] <NoobFukaire1> odd
[01:17:34] <NoobFukaire1> when I export a certain plugin it creates a regular java manifest
[01:17:39] <NoobFukaire1> instead of one with osgi directives
[01:17:49] <NoobFukaire1> even though the file in the project is correct
[01:18:29] <NoobFukaire1> doh build.properties error :(
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[01:20:11] <dwain711> I am loading a table viewer into a view and the tables contents are too big to show on one page.  But there are no scroll bars until I resize the view with my mouse.  Any ideas why?
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[01:23:47] <dwain711> Is there a way to make the view re-draw without having to resize the window?
[01:24:31] <rcjsuen> dwain711: There's a redraw method but I doubt it would help
[01:24:35] <rcjsuen> you could tr yto relayout your table's parent
[01:24:45] <rcjsuen> tho i think therei s something fundamentally wrong if scrollbars don't autoappear imo
[01:25:24] <dwain711> It doesn't make sense to me since I have the exact same thing in an editor and they work perfectly
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[01:27:37] <NoobFukaire1> are you working in a threaded fashion at all?
[01:27:58] <NoobFukaire1> not respecting concurrency and synchronization between threads has caused strange issues like this for me before
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[01:55:12] <multiHYP> i get this error when i run the mac os x exported java swt based appliaction from eclipse, why?
[01:55:16] <multiHYP> err: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Cannot load 32-bit SWT libraries on 64-bit JVM
[01:55:39] <NoobFukaire1> pretty self explanatory isn't it?
[01:55:59] <NoobFukaire1> you need the bundle with the correct natives for that platform
[01:56:58] <multiHYP> but my standard jvm is chosen to be jvm J2SE 5.0 32-bit
[01:57:16] <NoobFukaire1> sounds like it's not using that one
[01:57:21] <NoobFukaire1> if it's asking for 64-bit natives
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[01:57:24] <multiHYP> and i export and compile my project with 1.5 compiler settings
[01:57:51] <multiHYP> is there a 64bit swt library for mac?
[01:58:37] <multiHYP> how can i know my eclipse ide is the 32bit or 64bit edition?
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[02:03:28] <multiHYP> please anybody, i don't want to reinstall eclipse, because i use a custom version with certain bits and pieces put together
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[02:18:26] <rcjsuen> you could probably check just by lookig in your plugins folder and see what your swt jar looks like
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[02:32:17] <multiHYP> there is some pesky bug with the swt.jar library, and to be honest there is zilch support for it!
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[03:01:37] <allballs> I'm wondering if there is a native feature of Galileo or a plugin that would allow 2 (or more) developers to simultaneously edit the same file, a la parallel editing?
[03:02:21] <allballs> I'm having a nasty time trying to search for such feature , perhaps because I lack proper term for such a thing...
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[03:08:11] <NoobFukaire1> allballs: yes
[03:08:50] <NoobFukaire1> http://wiki.eclipse.org/RT_Shared_Editing
[03:10:37] <allballs> many thanks.
[03:11:24] <allballs> aha! pair programming. that's the magic word I was looking for.
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[03:46:19] <ScottG> Where do I put a c++ header file in relation to my c++ source file inside my workspace folder?
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[05:58:57] <multiHYP> hey guys & gurls
[05:59:22] <multiHYP> here: http://www.eclipse.org/swt/cvs.php step #4 onwards loses me, can someone point me to the right direction?
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[09:17:53] <monzie> Is this the right place to ask questions about the SWTBrowserSession stuff?
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[09:28:50] <motokokusanagi> Does 3.5.1 need swt-gtk-3.5.1.jar or another version of libcairo-swt.so ?
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[09:40:00] <Starcraftmazter> hello, how would i change caching settings for tomcat in eclipse. It doesnt reflect any changes i make, even if i restart the server
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[09:47:33] <Starcraftmazter> hello? :S
[09:50:06] <Starcraftmazter> i think its something to do with publishing
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[10:08:14] <motokokusanagi> @Starcraftmazter: what server adapter do you use?
[10:09:18] <Starcraftmazter> not sure, how do I find out?
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[10:10:50] <Starcraftmazter> also, i think the problem fixed itself...though of course it would be nice to know why it happened
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[10:15:56] <monzie> Can I make SWTBrowserSession load mozilla + user specified extensions?
[10:16:30] <monzie> I essentially want a gecko instance + extensions so that , to the user, it looks like a firefox instance.
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[10:20:51] <sleon_> hi, i have following question: When command handler becomes a command to execute, which comes for some element in a tableviewer, which is in some specific view,  is it possible to determine, from which view this command comes?
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[10:43:25] <sleon_> no answer :) ok
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[10:46:21] <floe> hi all. I just tried to update eclipse and plugins via update manager (help->check for updates) but after stepping through the update wizard pressing the finish button nothing happens. Any ideas what's broken here and how to fix it?
[10:46:21] <floe> Ah I use eclipse gallileo and tons of plugins :P
[10:46:21] <alankila> floe: does hitting enter make it work?
[10:46:27] <floe> alankila: Have to try again... one moment pls
[10:46:31] <alankila> because there's a bug with linux and gtk+ 2.18 where for instance default action can't always be selected via mouse click due to some new features of GTK+. It's reported that setting environment variable GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 fixes it
[10:47:11] <floe> alankila: seems to be my problem.... thank you very much
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[10:47:42] <floe> alankila: GDK = GTK  ^?
[10:47:47] <alankila> no.
[10:47:58] <floe> alankila: ok, thx
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[13:48:34] <matt1s> I want a bash terminal as a view in eclipse. Any plugins that does this?
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[13:50:08] <rcjsuen> sleon_: Determine the view? You mean in your handler implementation?
[13:51:52] <magnet> http://www.wickedshell.net/
[13:52:11] <magnet> "Wicked Shell is an Eclipse plugin providing direct access to your system's shell"
[13:53:02] <matt1s> I read about that, many negative comments when used in a *nix environment
[13:53:02] <matt1s> maybe it's better now though
[13:53:02] <matt1s> I'll check it out
[13:53:03] <magnet> no idea, the screenshots are taken under Windows
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[14:07:43] <matt1s> magnet: tried it out, but I don't think it's good enough.. Thanks though
[14:08:13] <magnet> matt1s, okay, thanks for the feedback ; let me know if you find something good enough
[14:08:36] <matt1s> magnet: I will :-)
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[15:15:23] <matt1s> magnet: I found something that is excellent. I use RSE (Remote Systems Explorer) to connect to my own machine through SSH and then use the Terminal view to get a SSH terminal
[15:15:33] <matt1s> magnet: works just like a SSH client
[15:17:01] <magnet> matt1s, seems overkill, but nice :).
[15:17:45] <matt1s> magnet: :-) yeah maybe, but it's sweet to not have to bring a terminal to front any more
[15:18:53] <magnet> matt1s, I guess it would be possible to re-use RSE's terminal component to run your favourite shell directly, but whatever works :).
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[15:20:05] <matt1s> magnet: hmm yeah. If I ever get around to develop plugins for Eclipse a clean terminal plugin is the first one I'd write
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[15:21:03] <magnet> matt1s, :). I hope you will.
[15:21:21] <magnet> developing plugins for Eclipse is fun
[15:21:42] <matt1s> magnet: too much stuff is fun, too little time :-)
[15:21:57] <matt1s> *not enough time
[15:22:08] <magnet> :)
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[15:25:01] <torarne> Q: Would it be possible to write a CompareEditorInput that reads a patch/diff file and provides a GUI view of that diff?
[15:25:58] <torarne> ie, can i plug that in and register it to be used for "*.diff" when opened in the compare editor, etc
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[15:29:14] <magnet> why not?
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[15:45:03] <paulweb515> torarne: what does eclipse currently do when you try and open a .diff file?
[15:45:19] <torarne> there's no default editor accoicated with a diff file
[15:45:24] <torarne> nor a patch file
[15:45:38] <torarne> if i accociate it manually to the default compare editor i get a NPE
[15:45:53] <torarne> "Could not open the editor: Invalid input: not a CompareEditorInput"
[15:46:01] <torarne> i found a workaround though
[15:47:04] <torarne> (by the way, this is from the mylyn bugzilla-integration. it lists attachment, and you can right-click the attchement and choose "open in browser" or "open in default editor")
[15:47:11] <torarne> i want to open it in the default editor, not on the web, so that i get the compare editor of eclipse (which i love)
[15:47:56] <torarne> anyways, the workaround is to right-click the attachment and choose "apply patch?" which launches the apply patch wizard. that one has a step where it shows the compare based on the patch, before you actually appply
[15:48:17] <rcjsuen> z4z4 might have an idea. I'd imagine it's possible (since when you apply a patch you can see the diffs in the compare view. Dunno how much work it would be though.
[15:48:19] <torarne> works for me, but would be nice if the default editor would automatically launch the compare editor similar to the apply patch wizard
[15:49:16] <torarne> will try to poke the code a bit and see if it can be easily done. just wanted to check with you guys for tips on where to start, etc
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[15:52:08] <torarne> mylyn also has an option for the attachment called "compare", but that one is disabled
[15:52:19] <CalJohn> What is a good program for drawing uml and exporting it to java outlines?  I want to do it inside eclipse, basically
[15:52:54] <CalJohn> (needs also to be Free and $0)
[15:54:59] <magnet> CalJohn, good, Free and gratis, choose 2
[15:55:09] <magnet> or 1.
[15:55:09] <magnet> :>
[15:55:53] <CalJohn> what are the options?
[15:56:21] <magnet> 1) if you want Free Software, give up on UML and use directly Ecore to describe your classes. You can use the Ecore Tools + EMF generation
[15:56:33] <magnet> but you will get more than "just" Java outline
[15:56:48] <magnet> if you want POJOs you will need to write your own code templates afaik
[15:57:55] <magnet> 2) if you require UML, you can use Topcased UML editor, which is the only Eclipse-based Free Software that I know of
[15:58:05] <magnet> there are some others though
[15:58:19] <magnet> 3) if you give up on Free and gratis, there are plenty of tools
[15:59:07] <z4z4> torarne: "compare" actions for attachments will get enabled if you select two attachemnts
[15:59:32] <torarne> z4z4: ah, i see. thanks!
[16:00:09] <z4z4> torarne: if you want to open a compare editor for a patch why don't you just do "Apply patch"
[16:00:48] <z4z4> you will get the same wizard as in Mylyn task editor, and the page with compare viewer
[16:02:36] <z4z4> torarne: however, if you don't want to open a dialog but examine changes in the patch in compare editor(s) you should take a look at bug 236169
[16:02:41] <torarne> z4z4: yepp, that's the workaround that i found. i'm not going to apply the patch though, just review it, that's why i expected "open in default editor" to just work, ie open a read-only compare
[16:02:46] <z4z4> ~236169
[16:02:47] <Arbalest> Bug 236169 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=236169 - Platform / Team / 3.4 - PC / Windows XP - ASSIGNED / enhancement / - Assignee: Tomasz.Zarna - Use Synchronize View for Apply Patch
[16:04:00] <z4z4> I see, so I think this is the bug you're looking for
[16:04:53] <torarne> cool, thanks guys!
[16:04:58] <z4z4> I did some work in this area, even a rough patch, but nothing ready to commit. I will be back on this issue soon
[16:05:03] <z4z4> it's planned for 3.6
[16:05:03] <torarne> cool!
[16:05:25] <z4z4> feel free to add yourself to cc
[16:06:07] <z4z4> this way you'll be the first one to use it, if you decide to apply the incoming patches ;)
[16:06:57] <z4z4> gotta go for lunch, ttyl
[16:07:12] <z4z4> thanks rcjsuen ;)
[16:07:17] <torarne> i will, thanks for your help, have a good lunch :)
[16:07:17] <rcjsuen> ;p
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[16:22:34] <NoobFukaure> is there anyway to force a plugin project to rebuild it's plugin dependencies?
[16:23:18] <NoobFukaure> I have an issue where one project clearly exports some packages but some dependent plugins haven't added it to their build path for some reason
[16:23:39] <NoobFukaure> aha!
[16:23:54] <rcjsuen> usually i clean, or restart Eclipse i guess
[16:24:09] <NoobFukaure> I've tried that, nada
[16:24:11] <NoobFukaure> :(
[16:24:18] <NoobFukaure> although I'm trying PDE Tools -> Update Classpath
[16:28:23] <magnet> Well, clean all will make sure everything has to be rebuilt :)
[16:29:28] <magnet> I have also found an option in the launch configuration to be useful when developing OSGi bundles: Configuration tab, "clear the configuration area before launching"
[16:30:04] <NoobFukaure> this isn't a runtime problem
[16:30:46] <NoobFukaure> essentially some of the plugins aren't including the packages they need, even though a bundle exists exports them, so they aren't compiling
[16:31:12] <NoobFukaure> the plugins don't have that exporting bundle on their classpath
[16:32:12] <magnet> mhh, did you add the corresponding Require-Bundle / Import-Package  directive to the importing bundle's manifest?
[16:33:09] <NoobFukaure> yep
[16:33:16] <NoobFukaure> although eclipse isn't picking it up or something
[16:33:31] <NoobFukaure> when I right click on the package and select "go to package" it just does nothing
[16:33:47] <magnet> are the required bundles in your workspace, or current target platform ?
[16:33:54] <NoobFukaure> yep and they don't have any compile errors
[16:34:33] <magnet> running out of ideas... do the execution environments match?
[16:35:13] <NoobFukaure> yeah
[16:35:15] <magnet> I had that bug once in 3.5, and it had to do with a bug when you set a target platform from a target definition
[16:35:29] <magnet> I had to go to Preferences > PDE and reset the target platform manually
[16:35:33] <NoobFukaure> the funny thing is this works perfectly on another machine straight from cvs
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[16:35:45] <magnet> even though the two target platforms were exactly the same, it wouldnt build
[16:35:50] <NoobFukaure> I wonder if my eclipse installation on this workstation is subtly jacked
[16:36:36] <NoobFukaure> straight from SVN*
[16:36:36] <NoobFukaure> haha
[16:36:41] <NoobFukaure> cvs oh sweet jesus
[16:36:43] <NoobFukaure> nightmares
[16:36:59] <magnet> SVN gives me nightmares too :)
[16:37:23] <NoobFukaure> haha, true
[16:37:30] <NoobFukaure> SVN is only slightly better than CVS
[16:37:33] <NoobFukaure> which isn't saying much
[16:37:53] <NoobFukaure> yeah I think the target platforms are okay
[16:38:15] <NoobFukaure> but I just reset it and am going to clean
[16:38:25] <NoobFukaure> although target platforms are a runtime thing arent' they?
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[16:38:30] <magnet> not only
[16:38:40] <magnet> they shadow JDT's available types
[16:38:45] <NoobFukaure> oh
[16:39:18] <NoobFukaure> that's right, when I add the delta pack it adds a bunch of new plugins
[16:39:47] <magnet> are you using the delta pack right now? Because the bug I had was with SWT in the Delta Pack :)
[16:40:15] <kenny> i am using eclipse 3.2 with cdt plugin on ubuntu 9.04, i am unable to use hover functionality, even after enabling it in preferences
[16:40:19] <magnet> for some reason, SWT would not be resolved if added to my target platform using a target definition
[16:40:37] <rcjsuen> kenny: in case you didn't know (probably not), that's 3 years old, even if it was a real bug, might've been fixed
[16:40:41] <magnet> kenny, 3.2 is old.
[16:40:53] <NoobFukaure> magnet: haha yeah I installed it thinking that was the issue originally, like the lack of the delta pack was causing some kind of cascading dependency issue
[16:41:14] <NoobFukaure> I just bumped the version the exported packages and now things seem to work when I add them
[16:41:33] <magnet> that's smelly :)
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[16:50:57] <NoobFukaure> yeah it's hacky
[16:50:59] <NoobFukaure> but it works
[16:51:09] <NoobFukaure> I have no idea wtf is going on, maybe I'm newbing something up
[16:51:15] <NoobFukaure> but it's not an obvious issue :(
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[16:52:17] <NoobFukaure> magnet: are you familiar with fragments?
[16:52:33] <magnet> NoobFukaire, somewhat
[16:53:14] <NoobFukaure> whats the proper way to setup the build path for fragments with implementations destined for "injection" by the container
[16:53:28] <NoobFukaure> it's an issue kind of like swt with it's platform fragment bundles
[16:53:40] <NoobFukaure> although now that I think about it, I should just grab the swt source and see how they do it
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[16:54:06] <magnet> well
[16:54:07] <NoobFukaure> I have things working now but I have a hard project dependency in the workspace otherwise the host bundle won't compile
[16:54:14] <magnet> you don't have to "inject" or anything
[16:54:23] <NoobFukaure> even though fragments exist in the workspace which declare it as a host bundle
[16:54:32] <magnet> you just add the host bundle, and each fragment has a guard which defines on which conditions it should be ran
[16:54:43] <NoobFukaure> yeah at runtime it works fine
[16:54:47] <NoobFukaure> I just mean in the workspace
[16:55:01] <NoobFukaure> the host bundle doesn't see the fragment's classpath
[16:55:18] <NoobFukaure> but I don't see anyway to associate them or how to tell the workspace to choose the best fragment it can or what
[16:55:20] <magnet> it should not
[16:55:28] <NoobFukaure> I know at runtime it just chooses the one with the highest version
[16:55:51] <magnet> you can add a condition to determine the fragment (other than version)
[16:56:08] <NoobFukaure> right arch, platform, etc
[16:56:22] <NoobFukaure> maybe I'm just using fragments wrong
[16:56:26] <magnet> but my solution is not to have incompatible fragments in my workspace :). to keep the comparison with SWT, SWT.w32 is useless on my Linux system :)
[16:56:42] <NoobFukaure> we have a graphics api that has multiple backends, opengl, d3d, etc
[16:56:54] <NoobFukaure> the api itself is exposed to the rest of the components in the workspace
[16:57:05] <magnet> and is in the host bundle
[16:57:07] <NoobFukaure> while the system libs are a fragment
[16:57:11] <NoobFukaure> right
[16:57:21] <magnet> with abstract methods that delegate to the implementations in fragments
[16:57:30] <NoobFukaure> exactly
[16:57:55] <magnet> sounds good to me, what exactly is the problem? with that setup, the Host bundle should be properly resolved
[16:58:23] <NoobFukaure> it just doesn't, although if I had a hard dependency on a given fragment project it compiles fine and the runtime fragment injection stuff works
[16:58:37] <NoobFukaure> but I don't like the hard dependency, seems like I'm doing something wrong
[16:58:52] <magnet> the host bundle shouldn't depend on the fragment, at runtime they are "merged" into one bundle
[16:59:13] <magnet> mhhh, I don't have a fragment project handy, let me see if I can find something
[16:59:25] <NoobFukaure> right, but the concrete factories that provide the host with object during setup are in the fragments
[16:59:33] <NoobFukaure> that's the part I think I might be doing wrong
[17:00:57] <magnet> that what I don't remember, where I put those factories :\
[17:01:57] <magnet> I also remember now that there was a specific Eclipse header to make it work properly
[17:02:09] <NoobFukaure> ah maybe that's it
[17:02:38] <NoobFukaure> you mean aside from Fragment-Host right?
[17:02:44] <magnet> yes
[17:03:17] <magnet> Eclipse-ExtensibleAPI: true
[17:03:25] <magnet> in the host bundle
[17:05:43] <NoobFukaure> hmm still doesn't see any of the fragment project's exported packages
[17:07:16] <magnet> ohh
[17:07:20] <magnet> but you can't do that :)
[17:07:29] <magnet> You have to abstract the full public API
[17:07:38] <magnet> and those packages should be implementations of that API
[17:08:04] <NoobFukaure> that's basically what it is
[17:08:05] <magnet> or you have to make things dirty and add a hard dependency
[17:08:27] <NoobFukaure> except for the factory that creates the instance
[17:08:31] <magnet> if the interfaces you are using are all in the host bundle and the packages they belong to are exported, it should be OK
[17:08:43] <magnet> make an abstract factory in the host bundle
[17:08:58] <NoobFukaure> ah ok
[17:09:01] <NoobFukaure> this should be easy
[17:09:09] <magnet> if needed, use a HashTable<String, Object> to pass properties for specific instantiation arguments
[17:09:15] <magnet> but keep it generic :)
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[17:10:00] <NoobFukaure> okay I moved the factory implementation to one of the fragments and now everything compiles with no hard dep
[17:10:15] <magnet> :)
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[17:15:36] <NoobFukaure> magnet: awesome everything works, you're the man :)
[17:15:39] <NoobFukaure> thank you
[17:15:42] <magnet> np :)
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[17:17:27] <NoobFukaure> is there anyway to get access to the osgi console from within the app?
[17:17:44] <magnet> define within
[17:17:55] <magnet> you mean have a view within your RCP application?
[17:17:59] <NoobFukaure> I know it sounds weird, but our app has a drop down console that allows you to type commands
[17:18:05] <magnet> it is possible
[17:18:07] <NoobFukaure> and execute things in the scripting environment
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[17:18:21] <NoobFukaure> and it'd be cool to be able to jump into osgi mode and actually see what's going on in the underlying arch
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[17:18:31] <magnet> it doesnt sound weird, many RCP apps feature an OSGi console
[17:18:31] <NoobFukaure> that's probably a implementation specific thing right?
[17:18:46] <magnet> do you mean OSGi-implementation specific?
[17:19:11] <NoobFukaure> yeah like it might be different on equinox than felix or whatever container
[17:19:21] <NoobFukaure> I assume that, so far I haven't found anything
[17:19:30] <magnet> I believe there is a process to unify the command interpreter among OSGi frameworks going on, but it's not ready yet
[17:19:42] <magnet> you would have to ship Equinox
[17:21:06] <NoobFukaure> yeah that's fine, right now the app uses quite a few eclipse components anyway (plugins, resource utisl, etc), so equinox is the path of least resistance
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[17:22:08] <magnet> Okay, then it's a matter of shipping org.eclipse.ui.console and adding a console output from your Equinox instance
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[17:23:31] <NoobFukaure> this app doesn't use jface or swt or any gui stuff but that's going to be a good starting point to search for access
[17:24:05] <magnet> oh, then just run your app with -console in the arguments
[17:24:16] <magnet> you'll get the OSGi console
[17:24:19] <NoobFukaure> no but the console is a 3d gui element in a custom gui toolkit
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[17:24:45] <NoobFukaure> so I need to get like an inputstream or some kind of command api (or observer pattern setup)
[17:25:17] <erdal> i found swt snippet 67 to create a tool item as drop down, but that one manually shows the popup menu... any other ways to create a drop down toolitem?
[17:26:18] <mlk> any idea how to change the view inside the explorer to package-view with dot-notation? currenty I see my packages as folders. no idea how could this happen
[17:27:02] <magnet> NoobFukaire, have a look at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core. FrameworkConsole and ConsoleManager
[17:27:12] <magnet> those are internal so I guess there's a better way to do this
[17:27:33] <NoobFukaure> awesome
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[17:28:33] <magnet> mlk, package explorer menu (the down arrow on the top right) > Package Presentation > Flat
[17:29:24] <NoobFukaure> looks like the osgi console might be a service that can be connected to with this stuff: org.eclipse.osgi.framework.console
[17:29:36] <NoobFukaure> I'll have to see if that's an available service in container
[17:29:38] <magnet> erdal, yes
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[17:29:50] <erdal> thx
[17:29:51] <magnet> NoobFukaire, yes that's probably it
[17:30:43] <magnet> erdal, you can do the full definition of a drop down toolitem/toolbar using Eclipse's extension point mechanism if you are developing an RCP app
[17:30:54] <magnet> if you're SWT only, no, you can't :)
[17:31:11] <magnet> s/RCP app/RCP app or Eclipse plugin/
[17:31:28] <erdal> i have added a dynamic contribution, now i want to implement the ContributionItem...
[17:31:29] <mlk> magnet: YMMD, thanks ;)
[17:31:37] <magnet> np :)
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[17:31:57] <magnet> erdal, do you want to do all this programmatically?
[17:32:05] <erdal> i must
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[19:02:36] <nano-> Hi, I'm trying to get eclipse to either indent or complete a symbol based on what makes sense, like emacs can do. Any hints on where to find this? Any plugins?
[19:03:04] <nano-> .. right.. when pressing tab.
[19:04:06] <paulweb515> nano-: in java, it just indents when adding lines (or selecting and use CTRL+SHIFT+F to format)
[19:04:27] <paulweb515> nano-: in java, also CTRL+SPACE provides content assit.
[19:04:31] <paulweb515> s/assit/assist
[19:05:00] <paulweb515> nano-: but in almost all text editors, ALT+/ provides hippie completion (similar to emacs tag completion)
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[19:06:18] <nano-> Yes, but alt+/ is even worse than ctrl+space, three keys on my keyboard. Having only tab would be sweet.
[19:07:39] <Celkoranor> and you...don't need tab for example as a tabulator?
[19:07:52] <rcjsuen> It seems that is not the case.
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[19:08:20] <nano-> humm.. i'm used to having it as both. but i might be able to live with it. going to try.
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[19:12:50] <fission6> how can i tell if i have a 32 or 64 bit eclipse
[19:13:57] <rcjsuen> fission6: Do you have the file you downoaded?
[19:14:14] <nano-> paulweb515: Ok.. so it's a bit better than the default. But it's still nice to be able to indent with tab too.
[19:14:20] <fission6> got it with packmanager in ubuntu, trying to set up a flex devleopment environment
[19:15:27] <rcjsuen> fission6: I would expect the system to default to what your arch is.
[19:15:39] <fission6> yea
[19:15:44] <fission6> i think thats the case
[19:15:44] <rcjsuen> you can check your config details in the about dialog there if you want to be sure i guess
[19:16:16] <nano-> paulweb515: But the combination is not available then? You don't happen to know if there are any plugins that accomplish this?
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[19:23:45] <fission6> i want to make sure i download the 32 bit rcjsuen, is this it for linux, http://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.2-200802211800/linPlatform.php
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[19:33:59] <rcjsuen> fission6: the ones that say x86 are 32-bit anyway
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[19:35:46] <fission6> ok
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[19:36:51] <fission6> where should i install eclipse in linux
[19:36:59] <fission6> what dir
[19:37:31] <NoobFukaure> doesn't really matter, although the customary place is /opt
[19:37:40] <fission6> ok ill do i tthere, what about jre
[19:37:45] <NoobFukaure> /opt is for software not distributed by your package/os maintainer
[19:37:56] <fission6> ok
[19:37:58] <NoobFukaure> if you downloaded it, /op
[19:38:01] <NoobFukaure>  /opt
[19:38:05] <fission6> ok
[19:38:16] <NoobFukaure> if you installed it via a package manager, it should be wherever it appropriate for your os
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[19:39:37] <fission6> whats /usr/bin for then
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[19:40:26] <NoobFukaure> that's for application binaries installed by the package management system
[19:41:38] <fission6> ok so eclipse and jre ill put in /opt thanks
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[19:57:57] <antonio_> hi people
[19:59:24] <antonio_> I'm running eclipse ganimede on ubuntu jauntly, it doesn't start anymore, I see it in process monitor (java and eclipse) but the program stay in background, any idea?
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[20:10:21] <Wolfcastle> hello
[20:10:41] <Wolfcastle> does eclipse galileo have a spellchecker?
[20:11:10] <Wolfcastle> some words in my code are underlined and it says 'the word x is not correctly spelled'
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[20:12:34] <Wolfcastle> that is in a comments section
[20:12:40] <Wolfcastle> would like to disable that if possible
[20:12:48] <NoobFukaure> check preferences
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[20:19:27] <asm-> exit
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[20:19:37] <Wolfcastle> there we go found it
[20:19:49] <Wolfcastle> hadn't noticed there was a search box in the preferences
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[20:20:24] <dnk_> I am trying to make a new java project within SVN, however, it will only allow me to make it in my top workspace folder
[20:20:26] <dnk_> can anyone help me?
[20:26:43] <paulweb515> dnk_: SVN or workspace?
[20:26:55] <paulweb515> dnk_: an eclipse workspace has projects at the top level
[20:27:15] <paulweb515> dnk_: as a matter of fact, a workspace contains only projects
[20:27:38] <paulweb515> dnk_: this is irrespective of your Team provider (CVS or SVN)
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[20:34:16] <dnk_> paulweb515
[20:34:35] <dnk_> ok how would I go by adding a new java project into my SVN
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[20:44:31] <NoobFukaure> whats the eclipse p2 director?
[20:44:47] <NoobFukaure> I'm trying to perform a headless build and I'm getting errors and messages like: This application is deprecated. Please use the org.eclipse.equinox.p2.director application
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[20:44:53] <NoobFukaure> I assume the docs I am using are out of date
[20:46:08] <antonio_> use /nick totopr
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[20:46:40] <totopr> hi
[20:47:44] <paulweb515> dnk_: once you've created a new java project and added the stuff you care about, wouldn't you just right-click and get a Team>Share Project menu item?
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[20:49:08] <dnk_> true
[20:49:23] <dnk_> paulweb515, I am having an issue though, I want to have multiple java library projects
[20:49:32] <dnk_> that I want to build once, I dont want to go to each one and build them
[20:49:35] <dnk_> individually
[20:49:59] <totopr> hi
[20:50:00] <totopr> I'm running eclipse ganimede on ubuntu jauntly, it doesn't start anymore, I see it in process monitor (java and eclipse) but the program stay in background, any idea?
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[20:58:22] <NoobFukaure> is there anyway to disable p2 metadata generation with a headless PDE build?
[20:58:28] <NoobFukaure> I don't need or want the p2 functionality
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[21:00:24] <fmx> good evening! have a problem... by trying compile a c++ code I get a message in the console "make -k all
[21:00:24] <fmx> make: *** No rules for compiling a target `all'."
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[21:01:41] <NoobFukaure> this more of a make problem
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[21:05:19] <NoobFukaure> looks like commenting all the p2 directives in the headless build.properties did the trick! :)
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[21:10:15] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: I have a lot of p2 properties at the bottom of my build.properties that you could probably get rid of (as you found out :-)
[21:12:01] <NoobFukaure> finally
[21:12:26] <NoobFukaure> haha, it's been a long two week journey getting all this code refactored and modularized and osgified and eclipseified
[21:12:43] <NoobFukaure> and but now it all works! thanks eclipse peoples
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[21:19:14] <totopr> anybody can help
[21:20:19] <totopr> running >eclipse -consoleLog  i have java.util.zip.ZipException: ...org.eclipse.jem.beaninfo.vm_2.0.200.v200811260651.jar (Too many open files)
[21:20:43] <paulweb515> totopr: have you shut down or killed all of your eclipse instances?
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[21:20:50] <totopr> yes
[21:21:06] <totopr> I did a restart of the system, then run eclipse
[21:21:23] <paulweb515> totopr: maybe your install isn't quite right ...
[21:21:33] <NoobFukaure> totopr: I assume you're on linux?
[21:21:35] <paulweb515> totopr: you can try eclipse -consoleLog -data new_tmp_ws
[21:21:46] <totopr> this problem happened after installed the web tool
[21:21:58] <NoobFukaure> you can increase the number of files in /etc/limits I believe
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[21:22:14] <NoobFukaure> maybe not, it's something in /etc though
[21:23:17] <totopr> eclipse -consoleLog -data new_tmp_ws did not solved the issue
[21:23:44] <NoobFukaure> /etc/security/limits.conf
[21:23:52] <NoobFukaure> raise the number of files
[21:25:50] <totopr> how to raise the number of files? I opened the limits.conf ad everithing is commented out
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[21:38:15] <Wolfcastle> simple question, is there a shortcut to jump between windows in galileo?
[21:38:26] <Wolfcastle> usually ctrl-tab gets the job done...
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[21:45:09] <bkaney> hi all, complete eclipse noob here.  I was wondering what the current status is of jgit/egit?  I have a developer pushing commits and breaking the repo (bad/missing/broken tree and link errors with a git fsck) and saw a post about egit having issues...
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[21:45:35] <NoobFukaure> can you tell the ant pde builder tasks to include a specific jvm with the out deployable?
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[21:47:18] <rcjsuen> bkaney: I think there's one bug in bugzilla about corruption, dunno if that's what you're seeing.
[21:47:42] <rcjsuen> Wolfcastle: Windows?
[21:47:53] <Wolfcastle> nope, linux
[21:47:53] <rcjsuen> Wolfcastle: Lots of people don't notice the text field in the preferences actually.
[21:48:10] <rcjsuen> <Wolfcastle> simple question, is there a shortcut to jump between windows in galileo?
[21:48:13] <rcjsuen> Wolfcastle: I was referring to that.
[21:48:28] <Wolfcastle> rcjsuen: ah, i meen open files
[21:48:31] <Wolfcastle> mean
[21:48:35] <rcjsuen> Wolfcastle: Ctrl+PgUp/Down
[21:48:39] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+(Shift)+F6
[21:48:42] <Wolfcastle> ah gr8 thanx
[21:48:49] <bkaney> rcjsuen, cool I'll look.  Is the bugzilla here -- https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs ?
[21:48:54] <rcjsuen> bkaney: yes, that
[21:49:40] <Wolfcastle> also I'm having problems using icefaces in galileo
[21:49:55] <bkaney> rcjsuen, yep, seeing this one: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=286653
[21:50:08] <rcjsuen> bkaney: okilydokily, good luck
[21:53:29] <totopr> maybe the update of WTP corrupted something
[21:54:34] <totopr> because it happens once I updated wp through ganimede update site
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[22:01:03] <tuxfusion> hi guys, my distro removes update urls frm eclipse , but i need to add some software into eclipse.  How is the url build up , for Version: 3.5.1
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[22:01:30] <tuxfusion> /update/install new software url of course
[22:03:31] <rcjsuen> tuxfusion: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_come_my_list_of_update_sites_is_completely_empty_when_other_people_says_theirs_has_stuff_in_it.3F
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[22:11:23] <tuxfusion> rcjsuen, awesome, thx . funny wiki title too =)
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[22:14:49] <tuxfusion> but argh , i can't add this url "already there" but it is not visible , nor can i pull software from it ...
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[22:26:06] <someon> I am using subclipse (1.4 I believe) and when I checkout a new repository it will get half way through and then throw and error of "'SVN Checkout has enountered a problem. cannot checkout"
[22:26:52] <someon> if i then try to do "team-> update" it will complain about trying to lock an already locked directory
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[22:27:37] <someon> i read into that, where it said i should do a "team-cleanup" when it happens. So I do that, then get the error about a file not being under version control
[22:28:22] <someon> Does anyone know what to fix this issue? I have tried all the debugging I can think of. There is already files in the repository and someone else has been trying to update and commit files
[22:28:47] <someon> I tried going to my working directory and deleteing the project and .metadata but when I do that and try again, I will just get the same process of errors
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[22:38:19] * tuxfusion kicked out the distro eclipse version and uses official again ...
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[22:50:22] <Aleph_One1> Is there a way to do remove deployment with Eclipse? For example synchronize output folder to remote machine over ssh.
[22:51:27] <rcjsuen> I think that's what ~TM does.
[22:51:28] <Arbalest> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
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[22:58:03] <Aleph_One1> rcjsuen, Arbalest, looks like something that i can use. Thanks
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[23:08:22] <Aleph_One1> Why isn't this part of Galileo?
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[23:18:27] <rcjsuen> Aleph_One: I believe it's on the Galileo update site.
[23:18:49] <rcjsuen> It's listed here anyway http://www.eclipse.org/galileo/projects.php
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[23:21:57] <Aleph_One1> ok, just didn't find it in the "EPP Packages Repository" update page that are available by default
[23:22:18] <Aleph_One1> Anyway, it seems pretty cool, i just configured a remote build folder :D
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[23:24:28] <rcjsuen> Aleph_One: I don't think it's part of an EPP package which might explain that.
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[23:25:04] <Aleph_One1> i see
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[23:48:40] <Iimitk> hello all
[23:49:00] <Iimitk> eclipse newbie here. are novice questions welcomed here?
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[23:51:37] <rcjsuen> Iimitk: If you have a question, ask it.
[23:51:46] <rcjsuen> If someone knows the answer, they will respond.
[23:53:25] <Iimitk> rcjsuen: thanks. basically EclipsePDT is eclipse itself bundled with plugins for php, is that correct?
[23:54:15] <rcjsuen> that would be the basic gist of it
[23:54:28] <Iimitk> i'm trying to update eclipsepdt to v. 2.2, but i'm unsure which method to proceed on with
[23:54:31] <rcjsuen> see ~compare if you want a breakdown
[23:54:31] <Arbalest> Wondering what the difference between all those Eclipse packages are or wondering what's included in them? See here - http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/compare-packages
[23:56:00] <Iimitk> when i go to Help > About Eclipse, it doesn't provide any useful information about which eclipse version i'm running, just a build id
[23:57:54] <Iimitk> checked out the compare page. that's really confusing as i though  eclipse classic is eclipse main application
[23:58:02] <Iimitk> i thought*
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