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[00:25:59] <Iradieh> rcjsuen: Ok.. How can I tell if they work
[00:26:05] <Iradieh> rcjsuen: I am trying to get javascript support
[00:27:11] <rcjsuen> Dunno. If the plug-in contributes views you can search for views. OR see if you have a js editor or whatever. *shrugs*
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[00:29:13] <sorressean> I just got eclipse for my mac, and was wondering if someone could sorta help me out. it came in a .tar.gz archive which I've extracted, where do I put all this other stuff? the clipse.appp probably gos in my apps folder, but everything else?
[00:30:10] <rcjsuen> sorressean: I don't think it matters. I know some people just put it in ~/
[00:30:56] <sorressean> huh? if I put all this in ~/ that'll get rather cluttered kind of quickly
[00:31:23] <rcjsuen> sorressean: Isn't it just a eclipse/ folder? It is for Linux anyway, I don't know about Mac.
[00:31:48] <sorressean> um, it's a folder, yeah. but the app would go in my apps folder... where does the rest of it go?
[00:32:20] <rcjsuen> Dunno, I put the whole eclipse/ folder in my ~/, so it's just ~/eclipse/
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[00:38:48] <Iradieh> sorressean: Dude put the folder in the /Applications
[00:39:05] <Iradieh> sorressean: Don't cut out the eclipse.app, you need to keep everything in /Applications
[00:39:12] <Iradieh> just like Office has it's own folder...
[00:39:23] <sorressean> will do. I downloaded the generic and the c++ version. can I separate the two?
[00:39:37] <Iradieh> Dunno, why would you want to separate?
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[00:40:28] <sorressean> so that eclipse.app from the c++ version doesn't overwrite eclipse.app for everything else
[00:41:39] <sorressean> I code with multiple languages, suually python and a couple others. I'd like to use eclipse for it. But right now all I see is options for c++
[00:42:30] <rcjsuen> You can install python plug-in as an addon if you wish.
[00:43:58] <sorressean> ok. I'll see how to do that. I'm not even sure eclipse is going to work.
[00:44:47] <Iradieh> Dude
[00:44:53] <Iradieh> use emacs for python...
[00:45:15] <sorressean> I might use emacs for evrything. looks like it's going to work better than eclipse. :(
[00:45:45] <xmnt> I'm trying to update eclipse w/ PDT but keep getting this Cannot find a solution satisfying the following requirements org.eclipse.jst.jsf.core [1.2.2.v20090903].
[00:45:56] <xmnt> any idea what provides that?
[00:46:11] <Iradieh> sorressean: Wait.. on OS X you should get textmate
[00:46:18] <Iradieh> It Isn't free, but trust me it is totally worth it.
[00:46:48] <sorressean> the issue is making it work with voiceover. I like eclipse, but it doesn't work with VO from what I can tell
[00:47:33] <Iradieh> VoiceOver?
[00:47:37] <Iradieh> You want to code with voiceover?
[00:47:47] <sorressean> it's mac's screen reader
[00:47:53] <Iradieh> I know what it is..
[00:47:58] <Iradieh> Why?
[00:48:02] <sorressean> uh... unless you know where I can get replacement eyes, I don't have much of a choice.
[00:48:07] <Iradieh> Oh shit
[00:48:14] <Iradieh> Sorry mate. Didn't think it through.
[00:48:22] <sorressean> lmao. it's all good
[00:48:29] <Iradieh> Kudos mate, kudos.
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[00:49:06] <Iradieh> sorressean: Btw, you don't need multiple versions of eclipse for every language
[00:49:10] <Iradieh> sorressean: One is sufficent.
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[00:49:17] * sorressean nods
[00:49:28] <sorressean> plugins I take it. I was just trying to see if I could find an editor for the mac.
[00:49:31] <Iradieh> sorressean: There are plugins for languages that isn't with it.
[00:49:39] <Iradieh> sorressean: Emacs or textmate (if you want to pay)
[00:50:04] <Iradieh> Both are equally good, but Textmate has builtin functionality that would otherwise require for you to find for emacs or code in LISP
[00:50:14] <sorressean> I like the idea of textmate, but I'm a bit wary of buying something that may not be accessible.
[00:51:50] <Iradieh> sorressean: There is a demo, and here is the URL for it: http://download-b.macromates.com/TextMate_1.5.9.dmg
[00:52:34] <Iradieh> But as I said, unless you need support for alot of stuff, emacs is sufficent.
[00:52:34] <Iradieh> What language where you planning to code with anyway?
[00:53:08] <sorressean> awesome. I'll check it out. going to look at price first though. I don't want to get hooked to find out I can't afford it, which will probably happen. :p c++,c,some asm,python,php... and it looks nice, I'm just having issues making it work with vo.
[00:54:06] <sorressean> I've also had ideas of using coco to make some accessible apps for the VO community that we're lacking.
[00:54:09] <Iradieh> Have you tried xCode (it's made by Apple so voice over should work) Basic C-based languages work perfect in xCode, combined with debugger and all. Python works too
[00:54:17] <Iradieh> sorressean: Sounds like a great idea.
[00:54:46] <sorressean> I've tried xcode. I was looking at a tutorial on it actually, and did well until... "drag the control from the control toolbox to the window..." oops
[00:55:03] <Iradieh> I don't get it?
[00:55:22] <sorressean> I don't think you can drag-and-drop with vo. at least I haven't found a way to do it yet, anyway
[00:55:26] <Iradieh> You don
[00:55:38] <Iradieh> You don't need to drag stuff with xCode?
[00:55:42] <rcjsuen> Hm, I'm surprised to hear that Eclipse doesn't work with Apple's accessibility application. I guess it's possible it's using the new APIs so SWT doesn't support it yet but still, sounds pretty odd, and discouraging.
[00:55:47] <sorressean> and it's not like visual studio where you just click on the control and you can set the coords through a properties window
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[00:56:09] <Iradieh> sorressean: You can make the GUI programatically*
[00:56:26] <Iradieh> Instead of using interfacebuilder.
[00:56:28] <sorressean> Is there another way to get your control onto the window? the apple article I was reading told me to drag it from the controls panel where all the controls were listed to the window that I was building.
[00:56:39] <sorressean> ooo. bad ass. so I just need to learn coco.
[00:56:53] <Iradieh> What kind of control then?
[00:57:04] <Iradieh> I haven't done cocoa myself yet, mostly UITouch (iPhone)
[00:57:13] <Iradieh> But I am positivly sure that you can do GUI programatically.
[00:57:23] <sorressean> awesome. I'll check into it
[00:57:33] <Iradieh> You're badass for doing it.
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[00:57:49] <sorressean> thanks a ton. Being able to use coco would be awesome. There's a ton of stuff I want to make freeware that we're missing.
[00:58:36] <Iradieh> I honsetly have to say that I don't care much about voicer over and functionality for the blind, mostly because it is so distant from mere, but I have never spoken to a blind programmer before. Gives you a second thought now when making apps....
[00:58:43] <sorressean> Does apple have an API and such like windows? I'd assume they would have a vo api, though I haven't found much on that, and their support was far from helpfull. If it's not in the apps folder when you get your mac you don't get help.
[00:59:08] <Iradieh> They have their own documentation which is either downloaded with xCode or online.
[00:59:18] <Iradieh> If you have the latest xCode then it should be under Help->Documentation
[00:59:46] <sorressean> Yeah. That's a bit of an issue. Lots of people just code to make things look pretty, but they don't care about accessibility and pretty. So far coco is decent with VO, but there are apps that don't bother using it.
[00:59:55] <sorressean> o. awesome. that's what I get for not exploring my menubar
[01:01:33] <sorressean> wow. textmate looks awesome. when I get the cash I'll probably end up buying it if it's accessible.
[01:02:07] <Iradieh> Ehm, just use emacs and learn that instead
[01:02:13] <Iradieh> if you learn emacs well enough, textmate will be obselote.
[01:02:18] <sorressean> haha. yeah
[01:02:23] <Iradieh> Then you can access all the emacs functionality from every OS..
[01:02:28] <sorressean> emacs looks mind boggling.
[01:02:38] <Iradieh> Textmate is OS X only, once you leave it, you won't be able to be as productive.
[01:02:44] <sorressean> ah well. I've got time before I start college, may as well do something cool
[01:02:53] <Iradieh> sorressean: It's not that bad once you learn
[01:03:06] <Iradieh> sorressean: I'm second year Comp sci
[01:03:14] <Iradieh> What are you attending?
[01:03:33] <sorressean> I hate all things m$, but they did actually do decently well with their ide. And I just graduated hs last may, I'm going for CS.
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[01:04:15] <Iradieh> haha
[01:04:22] <Iradieh> I feel the same
[01:04:25] <Iradieh> Visual Studio is AWESOME
[01:04:32] <sorressean> Yeah. I love vs.
[01:04:33] <Iradieh> but I can't stand windows more then 3 minutes...
[01:04:43] <Iradieh> I am actually doing a project with .NET MVC later....
[01:04:45] <sorressean> hahaha. same. I'm trying to move over to the mac so I can make this laptop a linux box.
[01:04:47] <vadi2> tc 6.0.18, java 1.6.0, ubuntu jj.. is there a resource on how to get eclipse to integrate with tomcat?
[01:07:12] <xmnt> anyone able to shed some light on this error:  Cannot find a solution satisfying the following requirements org.eclipse.jst.jsf.core
[01:07:32] <Iradieh> Anyway sorressean I gotta go, good luck mate.
[01:07:38] <xmnt> I've been hacking away at getting eclipse working for like 6 hours now and this is really nagging me
[01:07:39] <sorressean> peace
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[01:57:18] <Iradieh> How does one get javascript support when editing .html files with the aptana plugin?
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[04:07:02] <_Maru_> hi
[04:07:38] <_Maru_> I'm using Galileo but sometimes left click doesn't work so some buttons any idea why and how to fix it?
[04:08:31] <rcjsuen> _Maru_: what version of gtk+ are you on
[04:08:53] <_Maru_> not sure lol how do i find out?
[04:09:00] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[04:09:02] <rcjsuen> depends on your distro
[04:10:41] <_Maru_> debian
[04:11:13] <rcjsuen> i don't use Debian
[04:11:18] <rcjsuen> ask in the Debian channel how to check your installation
[04:11:26] <rcjsuen> or maybe someone in here knows
[04:12:38] <_Maru_> 2.18.2-1
[04:12:45] <rcjsuen> ~tell _Maru_ about crash
[04:12:45] <Arbalest> _Maru_: Is Eclipse crashing or freezing for you? This may be a known problem and there may already be a solution or workaround, please see - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Crashers.2C_Freezing.2C_and_other_Major_Issues - If the FAQ does not seem to help, please provide more ~info about your workstation and Eclipse setup.
[04:13:11] <_Maru_> my eclipse doesn't crash
[04:13:42] <rcjsuen> _Maru_: Believe me I wouldn't give you the link if I felt it would serve you no purpose to look at that section.
[04:13:49] <_Maru_> left click just doesn't work on some buttons.  it brings the focus to the button but doesn't register the click or something and you have to press enter to execute it
[04:15:08] <_Maru_> ahh i  see it
[04:15:09] <_Maru_> thanks
[04:17:21] <rcjsuen> okilydokily
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[04:27:14] <rcjsuen> _Maru_: Good luck and hope you don't have other problems.
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[08:20:16] <btb996> hey, all, anyone can help me on this topic? http://www.pastethat.com/vKzJd
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[08:23:27] <btb996> anyone here?
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[10:42:47] <gantu> I have installed eclipse-ganymede on Fedora 10
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[10:43:05] <gantu> but it is not working properly
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[10:45:30] <gantu> I checked log an i get http://pastebin.com/d361dfb1f
[10:45:50] <gantu> Any ideas?
[10:46:15] <gantu> i searched on google but  can not fix it
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[11:00:03] <paulweb515_> gantu: you have a bogus version of xulrunner installed
[11:00:41] <paulweb515_> gantu: ~xpcom
[11:00:41] <Arbalest> Are you seeing "org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: XPCOM error -2147467262" in your workspace's log file after a crash? Upgrade to Firefox 3.0 final (or its appropriate counterpart such as XULRunner 1.9). See here for more information - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=213194
[11:01:08] <gantu> paulweb515, i have updated my xulrunner
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[11:02:27] <gantu> Arbalest, i'm using firefox 3.5.3
[11:04:19] <gantu> my xulrunner -v outputs :Mozilla XULRunner 1.9.1.3 - 20090909051554
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[11:38:03] <ridoo> hey, is it the right place asking PyDev questions (actually how to configure the right process/module for debugging) ?
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[12:10:24] <Domiiii> where can i setup general eclipse options? the Properties menu won't open
[12:10:32] <Domiiii> like i press it and it won't react
[12:11:27] <Domiiii> i want to setup the SDK that it uses
[12:11:32] <Domiiii> by default
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[12:17:13] <gantu> Domiiii, {eclipse installation folder}/eclipse.ini
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[12:52:30] <pni> i trying to get eclipse to recognize an old workspace of mine... i have a few different projects in a workspace, but when i set the workspace path to this location, nothing is shown in the package explorer
[12:52:56] <pni> how does eclipse recognize projects? i have the .metadata intact etc
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[12:54:43] <pni> should i just re-import each project into the workspace?
[12:55:08] <BlackMage_> how i can search ONLY in the current file?
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[13:18:05] <ridoo> BlackMage_, try <strg+f>
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[13:21:42] <Wazzzaaa> Hi, I have the texlipse plugin installed to work on tex files. But now eclipse cannot open any file in my project
[13:21:48] <Wazzzaaa> it get: "Could not open the editor: The editor class could not be instantiated. This usually indicates a missing no-arg constructor or that the editor's class name was mistyped in plugin.xml."
[13:21:56] <Wazzzaaa> any ideas?
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[13:24:52] <Wazzzaaa> no flooding please :P
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[13:26:00] <impera5|dev0> I have a question regaring Eclipse (Ganymed), CDT and MinGW gdb: when I use the "Step Over" function at a line calling malloc the debugger will nevertheless step into malloc and tell me I am missing the source code for malloc - why is the debugger stepping into the function at all? Any suggestions or hints? I searched the web with google, but wasn't able to find anything regarding my problem
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[13:30:23] <paulweb515> Wazzzaaa: there's usually more log in ~logs
[13:30:23] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[13:31:10] <paulweb515> Wazzzaaa: you can pastebin a stacktrace if you find it ... also, how did you install it?  Install dialog?  Update Manager? eclipse/dropins folder?
[13:33:13] <Wazzzaaa> paulweb515: I just fixed it
[13:33:40] <Wazzzaaa> don't know the problem, but I made a  new workspace and imported the projects...
[13:33:50] <Wazzzaaa> I'll look in logs anyway :P
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[13:37:40] <Wazzzaaa> paulweb515: you mean WORKSPACE_LOCATION/.metadata/.log ? There I see the full stacktrace
[13:37:56] <Wazzzaaa> I remember that for next time ;)
[13:41:32] <rcjsuen> Wazzzaaa: that would be in line with what Arbalest mentioned <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file.
[13:42:12] <rcjsuen> gantu: what version of eclipse are you on tho
[13:46:53] <Wazzzaaa> rcjsuen: sorry for that. I completely overlooked Arbalest
[13:47:23] <Wazzzaaa> thnx for the info :)
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[14:25:42] <njbartlett> Don't you just HATE it when all the options on the Team popup menu disappear (except for "Apply Patch"...)??
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[14:28:41] <rcjsuen> Think i've seen that phenomena before
[14:28:45] <rcjsuen> certainly heard of it on IRC anyway
[14:29:26] <gehdan> hi, I have a project with a small properties file that I build using the default java builder and an ANT Builder generated through Export (Runnable Jar). The properties file in the archive is a totally outdated version of the properties file I currently have, but I cannot change it. I have no idea where that version comes from. Any ideas where I could look?
[14:29:56] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Googling for it reveals people complaining back in 2003
[14:30:29] <gehdan> (eclipse Java EE 3.5.1)
[14:30:38] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: I've got some SVN projects that were originally checked out in 3.4, now 3.5 doesn't recognise them as SVN and I can't link them to the existing SVN metadata
[14:30:53] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: It looks like I simply have to delete my local projects and check out again
[14:31:06] <rcjsuen> yeah it's annoying where you can't disconnect _or_ share again
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[15:37:01] <jabalsad> hi all, i downloaded a .war from the myfaces tomahawk website which includes some examples on how to use the package. only thing is, when I import this package into eclipse I get a /src/ folder full of empty packages (which are supposed to include the examples). can anyone tell me why?
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[15:39:22] <paulweb515> jabalsad: Are you using a File>Import...>WAR option?  or from simply Import...>Archive?
[15:40:33] <jabalsad> no i did import -> war
[15:40:37] <jabalsad> but i figured out the problem though
[15:40:50] <jabalsad> seems the src isnt displayed in the /src directory, but instead its in the /WEB-INF/src directory
[15:41:00] <paulweb515> jabalsad: ah, OK
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[15:41:36] <jabalsad> thanks though :)
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[15:48:26] <sleon_> hi
[15:48:31] <sleon_> i have following question:
[15:48:42] <sleon_> i have a folder with a views, from time to time i open a new view in it
[15:48:50] <sleon_> (this are views with multiple=true)
[15:49:01] <sleon_> the problem is that the new view is not active in the folder
[15:49:17] <sleon_> but the very first or last selected view stays on top
[15:49:26] <sleon_> how to make new views become active?
[15:49:33] <rcjsuen> you mean with API?
[15:49:46] <sleon_> programmatically
[15:49:58] <sleon_> rcjsuen: why don't they become active when i create them?
[15:50:00] <rcjsuen> you're using the showView method I guess?
[15:50:07] <sleon_> sec i tell you
[15:50:45] <sleon_> view = (ISmartView<?>) PlatformUI.getWorkbench().getActiveWorkbenchWindow().getActivePage().showView(viewId, secondaryId, IWorkbenchPage.VIEW_CREATE);
[15:51:09] <sleon_> then it is simply stacked in the folder, and is not getting activated
[15:51:10] <rcjsuen> you might want to read the showView method's javadoc
[15:51:23] <sleon_> i tried all three modes
[15:51:26] <sleon_> i get same result
[15:51:27] <paulweb515> sleon_: there are 3 constants to choose from :-)
[15:51:32] <rcjsuen> if you tried all three
[15:51:34] <rcjsuen> and get the _same_ result
[15:51:38] <rcjsuen> there's a bug in the workbench code
[15:51:38] <sleon_> yes :)
[15:51:45] <sleon_> oooook :)
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[15:51:51] <rcjsuen> tho that'd be difficult to convince me
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[15:51:53] <sleon_> i hope not
[15:51:55] <rcjsuen> since i've used that method several times
[15:52:03] <sleon_> :)
[15:52:22] <sleon_> ok i try again
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[15:52:23] <paulweb515> sleon_: showView(id) which works just passes to showView(id, null, VIEW_ACTIVATE)
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[15:52:37] <sleon_> paulweb515: thanks for the tip ;)
[15:52:39] <paulweb515> sleon_: we depend on that code heavily :-)
[15:52:55] <sleon_> ok
[15:53:00] <sleon_> let me see ...
[15:53:05] * sleon_ compiles and starts
[15:53:31] * sleon_ loooong db query
[15:54:14] <sleon_> works
[15:54:18] <sleon_> :)
[15:54:29] <sleon_> paulweb515, rcjsuen thank you
[15:54:37] <rcjsuen> sleon_: That's odd. Dunno why it didn't work earlier then.
[15:54:46] <sleon_> rcjsuen: good question ....
[15:55:53] <deSilva> the error lies between screen and keyboard in that case I suspect
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[15:56:52] <sleon_> deSilva: :)
[15:56:59] <sleon_> yea yea, i am a programmer dau
[15:57:06] <sleon_> edau
[15:58:30] <sleon_> another question to the jobs api: is it possible to define the scheduling rules for all jobs globally?
[15:58:50] <sleon_> or do i need then to create a job class?
[15:58:57] <sleon_> or similar
[15:59:53] <paulweb515> sleon_: I don't think you can create a rule and apply it to jobs you didn't create (but if you could that would be in the job manager part of the API)
[16:00:15] <paulweb515> sleon_: for your Jobs, can't you just set a scheduling rule on each one before your schedule() them?
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[16:00:33] <sleon_> i can
[16:00:38] <sleon_> i am simply a lazy bastard
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[16:00:46] <sleon_> thats why i will simple subclass
[16:00:51] <sleon_> simply
[16:01:13] <sleon_> thanks for the information
[16:01:23] * erdal is sure that injecting scheduling rules globally is possible through equinox weaving...
[16:01:47] <paulweb515> sleon_: that API was meant to be subclasses so I'm sure it's OK
[16:02:20] <rcjsuen> well, many things are possible with equinox weaving ;)
[16:02:22] <sleon_> erdal: wow, is it easy or rocket science?
[16:02:34] <sleon_> paulweb515: thx
[16:02:44] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure it would be a good idea to make global rules though.
[16:02:53] <rcjsuen> Especially considering that the wb uses jobs internally.
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[16:03:20] <sleon_> rcjsuen: i have here a custom application, and my manager wants me to have all jobs serialized
[16:03:23] <rcjsuen> but i suppose technically speaking if the rule is applied upon job construction, then the wb sets a rule on the second line of code, then it doesn't matter
[16:03:47] <sleon_> :/
[16:04:18] <erdal> maybe, that is a design defect, sleon_
[16:04:30] <sleon_> so i should fight with him?
[16:04:33] <sleon_> hmm, ok i will try :)
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[16:29:39] <gregor2005> hi i need some help
[16:30:06] <gregor2005> on one eclipse installation i found on the menu project->generate javadoc
[16:30:17] <gregor2005> on the other installation not
[16:30:19] <gregor2005> both on fedora 11
[16:30:47] <gregor2005> with both i can compile the same project
[16:31:18] <gregor2005> sun java jdk 1.6.0_16 installed
[16:31:26] <erdal> just use the one that works :-P
[16:31:40] <gregor2005> lol
[16:32:48] <gregor2005> another hint?
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[16:33:26] <erdal> what versions do they both have?
[16:34:10] <erdal> help>about
[16:35:38] <gregor2005> both: Version: 3.4.2 Based on build id:  20090211-1700
[16:36:18] <erdal> they are both started from the same directory?
[16:36:35] <gregor2005> yes
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[16:37:28] <erdal> but then that cannot be two different installs !?
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[16:38:30] <gregor2005> sry two machines installed on the same directory on the machines
[16:38:36] <gregor2005> not from one installation
[16:38:54] <gregor2005> both computers also connected on the same network
[16:39:20] <gregor2005> the compiled project are stored in the homefolder
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[16:40:41] <nrstott> is there an archived version of Eclipse that will work on Mac Panther?
[16:42:20] <nrstott> i meant Tiger
[16:43:09] <krbarnes> nrstott: 3.5.1 should work on Tiger.
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[16:44:52] <soul9> i want to disable the showing of end-of-line characters in the editor, but can't find where i can doit
[16:45:03] <soul9> there is this P at the end of every line
[16:45:03] <gregor2005> any hints why "project->generate javadoc..." not shown?
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[16:47:17] <rcjsuen> gregor2005: try starting on a new workspace
[16:47:31] <rcjsuen> soul9: I don't believe that to be possible. file an enhancement request
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[16:48:23] <erdal> what about "show whitespace characters"?
[16:48:53] <gregor2005> rcjsuen: thx when i start a new project i see the menu-entry
[16:49:08] <gregor2005> now i have this on the current project
[16:49:25] <rcjsuen> erdal: i thot soul9 wanted whiespace characters...except the EOL P one
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[16:50:01] <vadi2> Eclipse is telling me that a workspace is in use when it's not. How can i fix this?
[16:50:15] <rcjsuen> vadi2: there are some suggestions in the FAQ, see channel topic
[16:50:21] <erdal> delete the .lock file
[16:50:52] <erdal> eclipse/.metadata/.lock
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[16:52:14] <vadi2>  /home/vadi/Programs/eclipse/configuration/org.eclipse.help.base/index/en_CA.lock ?
[16:53:13] <vadi2> I don't have .metadata folder in there :|
[16:53:17] <rcjsuen> erdal: should be the workspace ;p
[16:53:35] <erdal> yes, you are right
[16:53:42] <vadi2> ah
[16:53:43] <vadi2> yes, there is on in the workspace
[16:53:55] <vadi2> thank you, worked now
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[16:59:26] <gregor2005> bye
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[17:04:38] <NoobFukaire> are there docs that explain how to use fragments to allow the container to choose the implementation of a given set of packages?
[17:04:58] <NoobFukaire> I've looked at the osgi spec but it doesn't really layout how that is supposed to work
[17:05:26] <NoobFukaire> I'm more interested from a "developing in eclipse" standpoint
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[17:07:27] <NoobFukaire> like for example, I have fragments defined in my workspace and I have the dependencies setup (fragment exports the packages it implements, etc) and the base bundle imports those packages
[17:07:59] <NoobFukaire> but eclipse never adds the fragment as a plugin dependency, so I can't actually use any of the classes in base bundle
[17:11:03] <NoobFukaire> I've added one of the fragments that provide an implementation manually as a project dependency
[17:11:13] <NoobFukaire> that seems to work but it seems kind of icky
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[17:20:41] <vadi2> I'm getting a "Class not found exception: com.mysql.jdbc.Driver", but I did just install libmysql-java. Is there anything I need to do for eclipse to see it?
[17:20:52] <NoobFukaire> is it on your project's classpath?
[17:21:05] <vadi2> I'm not sure. How can I check?
[17:21:12] <NoobFukaire> installing it on the os isn't enough, unless the os installs it into the jvm (which you DO NOT want to do)
[17:21:36] <NoobFukaire> vadi2: check your project's properties and the build path
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[17:26:57] <atpa8a> hmm
[17:27:25] <atpa8a> so... still no jetty 7 adapter?
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[17:27:54] <vadi2> NoobFukaire: the dialog confuses me a bit. I do have "JRE system library" checked in "order an export tab", but it is not present in the "libraries" tab
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[17:28:25] <vadi2> ah nm, found it
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[17:34:58] <asm-> heyho
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[17:37:58] <asm-> i've a problem with exporting a rcp pluginproject. the exportet app doesn't start the interactive splashhandler. but starting the app via the product page, the splash appears...
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[17:39:52] <bluebaron> is there any way to open multiple files for editing based on shell wildcards or regex?
[17:40:01] <asm-> do i have to import/declare the handler somewhere else, than in the pluxin.xml?
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[17:46:44] <NoobFukaire> asm-: I have the reverse of your problem, lol :)
[17:47:05] <NoobFukaire> although I'm not sure if my issue is normal or what
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[17:50:19] <asm-> NoobFukaire, hehe (= ...
[17:50:27] <asm-> this kind of problems are really annoying
[17:50:42] <NoobFukaire> yeah, with a big system like eclipse weird issues like this always pop up
[17:51:06] <NoobFukaire> it can be infuriating ;)
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[17:53:57] <asm-> NoobFukaire: did you add something like splashHandlerProductBinding ?
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[18:08:42] <NoobFukaire> asm-: nope
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[18:18:45] <kaduk> Hi
[18:18:46] <kaduk> I have problem with eclipse
[18:18:55] <kaduk> mouse clicks does not work, I have to press enter
[18:18:57] <kaduk> any help?
[18:23:10] <sleon_> kaduk: hmmm, kaduk sounds like kakadu ;)
[18:23:26] <sleon_> kaduk: are you related somehow
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[18:23:42] <kaduk> sleon_, no
[18:24:03] <sleon_> kaduk: :)
[18:24:23] <sleon_> kaduk: which os?
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[18:25:06] <kaduk> sleon_, debian (sid)
[18:25:19] <sleon_> kaduk: which window manager?
[18:25:25] <kaduk> sleon_, metacity
[18:25:31] <kaduk> 2.28
[18:26:28] <sleon_> kaduk: are you using OpenGL desktop?
[18:26:31] <kaduk> for me it looks like problem with gui callbacks, sometimes it works, but in 99% it does not I have to press enter, when I click button, I cant click other buttons then I have to press enter
[18:26:35] <kaduk> sleon_, no OpenGL
[18:26:58] <sleon_> kaduk: interesting, never had such problem
[18:27:03] <sleon_> working all the time under linux
[18:27:03] <kaduk> :(
[18:27:15] <sleon_> kaduk: what if you press ESC or something?
[18:27:21] <kaduk> let me see
[18:27:49] <kaduk> esc closes window
[18:28:08] <kaduk> I am trying to create new file (ascii file) clicking finish just press button down but nothing happens
[18:28:13] <kaduk> esc close window
[18:28:16] <kaduk> enter creates file
[18:28:20] <sleon_> and tab?
[18:28:23] <sleon_> and then click?
[18:28:27] <sleon_> interesting
[18:28:37] <sleon_> kaduk: maybe try another window manager or so
[18:28:44] <sleon_> XWM
[18:28:47] <sleon_> :)
[18:28:53] <kaduk> tab switches between buttons
[18:28:55] <sleon_> does it happen there too?
[18:29:06] <kaduk> I think its not WM fault
[18:29:13] <sleon_> WM or driver fault
[18:29:15] <kaduk> WM is not responsible for gtk events
[18:29:23] <sleon_> it can grab mouse
[18:29:25] <kaduk> its more like gtk issue
[18:29:30] <kaduk> hm...
[18:29:39] <kaduk> I can try other WM
[18:29:50] <sleon_> + vesa driver
[18:29:56] <sleon_> just for sure
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[18:31:21] <kaduk> sleon_, cancel button works, but finish button does not. I forgot to say that
[18:31:30] <kaduk> and other WM does not help
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[18:32:09] <sleon_> .oO kaduk
[18:32:41] <kaduk> if it would be WM issue, then both buttons would not work
[18:33:06] <sleon_> correct
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[18:33:33] <sleon_> kaduk: Finish button is greyed out per default, right?
[18:33:52] <sleon_> kaduk: and i gets activated when you type something in, right?
[18:33:56] <kaduk> yes
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[18:36:00] <kaduk> I am using Sun Java 1.6 but Galilleo does -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5
[18:36:16] <kaduk> or maybe gtk issue
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[18:38:38] <krbarnes> kaduk: are you using gtk 2.18? ~292625
[18:38:39] <Arbalest> Bug 292625 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=292625 - Platform / SWT / 3.5.1 - Other / Linux-GTK - CLOSED / DUPLICATE / normal / - Assignee: platform-swt-inbox - unable to click certain buttons with mouse
[18:38:51] <kaduk> Arbalest, thanks !
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[18:39:29] <kaduk> krbarnes, yes it is gtk 2.18
[18:39:32] <kaduk> thanks a lot
[18:40:08] <sleon_> kaduk: i also helped : was drawing attention
[18:40:14] <sleon_> :)
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[18:40:38] <kaduk> sleon_, thanks:)
[18:41:49] <sleon_> ;)
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[19:09:42] <Nikelandjelo> Does anybody use emacs mode in eclipse? How can I select region and comment it? Can I do it with C-SPC?
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[19:10:50] <paulweb515> Nikelandjelo: in emacs mode you can still bring up the key popup (CTRL+SHIFT+L) and it will tell you what keybindings are active
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[19:23:27] <luyang> hiya
[19:24:27] <luyang> I'm getting maven errors... anybody?
[19:26:26] <nitind> #maven ?
[19:27:57] <luyang> 3 people
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[19:28:12] <luyang> Access to IAC configuration file is denied.
[19:28:33] <luyang> anybody? Could not acquire children from extension: com.eviware.soapui.eclipse.projectContent
[19:28:46] <luyang> at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.main(Main.java:1287)
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[19:29:08] <luyang> Failed to read Maven project
[19:29:10] 
[19:32:29] <rcjsuen> probably need to talk to the folks that wrote that plug-in
[19:32:33] <rcjsuen> there's not much information from there
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[19:33:23] <luyang> I thought somebody in Eclipse might be familiar with the m2eclipse maven plugin
[19:34:43] <rcjsuen> eviware doesn't look like sonatype's plug-in at all to me :O still, worth a shot to ask in ehre i suppose
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[21:55:42] <Bisu[Shield]> how do I speed up eclipse? right now i have to type like 10 words before seeing the helper box that displays the methods
[21:56:19] <NoobFukaire1> what version of java?
[21:56:20] <NoobFukaire1> java -version
[21:56:29] <NoobFukaire1> is your computer generally fast?
[21:57:07] <Bisu[Shield]> my computer is generally  fast
[21:57:21] <NoobFukaire1> what version of java? what specs?
[21:57:22] <Bisu[Shield]> how do i determine the version of java, I am on windows
[21:57:46] <NoobFukaire1> java.exe -version maybe?
[21:57:59] <NoobFukaire1> I dunno, I don't use windows unless I have to for some reason, so I'd have to google it
[21:58:00] <Bisu[Shield]> vista, 4 gigs ram, 1.6 ghx
[21:58:03] <Bisu[Shield]> dual core
[21:58:06] <NoobFukaire1> so.. giyf
[21:58:17] <NoobFukaire1> that should handle eclipse with no problems
[21:58:34] <Bisu[Shield]> java version "1.6.0_13"
[21:58:34] <Bisu[Shield]> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_13-b03)
[21:58:34] <Bisu[Shield]> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 11.3-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
[21:58:37] <NoobFukaire1> there is a slight delay built into the code completion by default, so it doesn't become annoying
[21:58:44] <NoobFukaire1> you can change that
[21:58:49] <Bisu[Shield]> i want it to be annoying
[21:58:52] <NoobFukaire1> okay your version of java should be okay, although it's old
[21:59:02] <Bisu[Shield]> how do I update my version of java
[21:59:44] <NoobFukaire1> what language are you developing with?
[21:59:47] <Bisu[Shield]> php
[21:59:58] <NoobFukaire1> ah, not sure there, I'd check in the php preferences
[22:00:08] <Bisu[Shield]> using zend framework so the library is pretty large
[22:00:55] <Bisu[Shield]> so no  idea how to speed up the code completion
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[22:01:01] <rhk> updating java can be done from the control panel, in the java control panel applet
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[22:02:21] <Bisu[Shield]> k let me try updating java, any idea how to speed up the code completion?
[22:02:27] <rhk> for the competion delay, open preferences (window -> preferences from the menu) then enter "content assist" in the search box
[22:02:55] <rhk> it's apparently set individually for each language support provider
[22:03:30] <rhk> go to the content assist page for the language you are working with, and look for the "auto activation delay"
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[22:04:09] <rhk> ok, for php it's "code assist"
[22:04:19] <rhk> I guess they felt they needed a different name :)
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[22:05:25] <Bisu[Shield]> auto activation delay in mine is 200 milliseconds
[22:06:22] <Bisu[Shield]> i set it to 100 and is now updating java
[22:06:39] <rhk> updating java probably won't really do anything.
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[22:06:48] <rhk> the version you mentioned is reasonably recent
[22:07:18] <Bisu[Shield]> hmm i prolly need a faster pc then
[22:07:27] <rhk> how fast is it?
[22:07:36] <Bisu[Shield]> 1.6 ghz
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[22:10:19] <rhk> how much ram?
[22:10:38] <rhk> and is it dual or single core?
[22:11:15] <rhk> I would say that 1.6Ghz  is adequate if you have dual core, and at least 1G RAM
[22:11:51] <rhk> eclipse does some things in the background which dual core helps with a lot
[22:18:41] <NoobFukaire1> ghz is a false performance indicatro
[22:22:40] <rhk> it's decent as an estimate
[22:23:00] <rhk> tells you what class the machine falls in
[22:23:08] <rcjsuen> also most people use JDT where the code completion is fast (imo)
[22:23:15] <rcjsuen> I have no idea how fast Zend's code completion processing is tho.
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[22:24:35] <rhk> it seems to me that it would be a tricky language for completion. the syntax isn't as clean-cut as java, which was designed for tool support.
[22:24:52] <rhk> php is a bit more organic
[22:25:23] <rcjsuen> having embedded php in html pages and whatever probably also makes parsing annoying i'd imagine
[22:25:30] <rhk> yeah
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[22:39:09] <H4z3> I need to use System.console() but obviously that wont work in eclipse, is there any way to get this to work whilst still inside the eclipse environment?
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[22:42:53] <Wolfcastle> hello
[22:43:06] <Wolfcastle> is myeclipse a fork of eclipse?
[22:43:42] <rcjsuen> H4z3: Not that I know of.
[22:43:52] <rcjsuen> H4z3: You'd just have to run your app from cmd.exe/xterm/whatever.
[22:44:02] <rcjsuen> Wolfcastle: I think they just add their own plug-ins on top.
[22:44:02] <H4z3> bah
[22:44:08] <rcjsuen> I mean, maybe it's a fork, you'l have to ask them ;)
[22:44:46] <Wolfcastle> mmm i see
[22:44:59] <Wolfcastle> so it's some kind of unofficial plugin for plugins?
[22:45:07] <rcjsuen> unofficial plugin for plugins?
[22:45:19] <Wolfcastle> hehe
[22:45:26] <rcjsuen> They build proprietary extensions on top of the Eclipse workbench and ship it.
[22:45:43] <Wolfcastle> ah ok I get it
[22:45:45] <Wolfcastle> thanx
[22:45:57] <Wolfcastle> not what I'm looking for then :-)
[22:46:16] <rcjsuen> Wolfcastle: What are you looking for then?
[22:46:30] <H4z3> rcjsuen: Doing something like.. "java .workspace/App/bin/app/Foo" should work, shouldn't it?
[22:46:40] <rhk> H4z3: do you mean System.out.println() from a plug-in, or from an app?
[22:46:57] <rcjsuen> H4z3: That doesn't sound like it would work. It sounds to me like you don't know how to run Java apps from the command line ;p
[22:46:59] <H4z3> rhk: From an app, and it's console input
[22:47:06] <rhk> ahh.
[22:47:14] <rhk> that should work in the eclipse console view
[22:47:31] <H4z3> rcjsuen: I've ran classes like that before (kinda.. >.<)
[22:47:38] <Wolfcastle> rcjsuen: just want to develop icefaces web pages without paying ;-)
[22:47:45] <H4z3> rhk: Input doesn't seem to, System.console() is null
[22:47:51] <rcjsuen> H4z3: well, you have to right idea :)
[22:48:04] <H4z3> ha
[22:48:13] <H4z3> It's gonna be something simple, isn't it
[22:48:41] <rcjsuen> for the long version you can just refer to ~debug-command
[22:48:41] <Arbalest> Need to find out what the command line invocation was for a process launched by Eclipse? See here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_check_for_the_command_line_invocation_that_Eclipse_used_to_launch_an_application.3F
[22:48:51] <rcjsuen> tho I suggest you read the java man page and see how to run apps
[22:48:56] <rcjsuen> for starters, you don't want them slashes
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[22:49:03] <H4z3> Just reading that now, thanks
[22:49:07] <rhk> H4z3: can you use System.in?
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[22:50:10] <H4z3> rhk: I guess
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[22:52:23] <marcosRz> hello there
[22:52:55] <rhk> ~122429
[22:52:57] <Arbalest> Bug 122429 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=122429 - JDT / Debug / 3.2 - PC / Windows XP - ASSIGNED / enhancement / - Assignee: jdt-debug-inbox - System.console() (Java 6.0) returns null when running inside Eclipse
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[22:53:06] <marcosRz> guys
[22:53:10] <marcosRz> why I'm getting this error?
[22:53:13] <marcosRz> just a min
[22:53:21] <rhk> apparently there is a request already to get System.console() suppory in eclipse. I'd recommend voting for it if you want this.
[22:53:30] <marcosRz> Buildfile: /home/marcos/workspace/UFG-InterAPPJava/build.xml
[22:53:30] <marcosRz> BUILD FAILED
[22:53:30] <marcosRz> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org.xml.sax.helpers.DefaultHandler
[22:53:38] <marcosRz> but when I run ant from cli it works
[22:53:40] <marcosRz> perfectly
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[23:04:36] <marcosRz> I'm having a problem here with the ant build
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[23:21:44] <rhk> marcosRz: looks to me like the classpath is different between the ant build and the eclipse build
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