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[00:19:55] <LordMetroid> Is there anymore commenting tags other than the TODO?
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[00:23:58] <mns_> Is there a way, with Galileo, to have the name of the workbench appear in the title bar ?
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[00:26:59] <mns_> ok never mind.  found -showlocation.
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[00:33:15] <multiHYP> hi my good old friends, long time no see
[00:35:01] <gpmidi> I keep getting "A repository error has occured" errors when I try to use Bugzilla. I'm running bugzilla 3.4.2, eclipse 3.4.2, and mylyn connector: Bugzilla 3.2.2
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[00:40:23] <multiHYP> guys, what are my options in the swt world, in good old swing i used to do a double buffered canvas for drawing and animation purposes. now, is the swt gc as powerful as the swing canvas, do i have other options (baring in mind that it most work equally well under windows as well as macintosh)?
[00:40:50] <multiHYP> *must
[00:45:09] <prahal> gpmidi, all I can tell is that I am using weekly of mylyn, bugzilla connector and eclipse 3.6 : cannot connect to gnome bugzilla which is ... 3.4.2. So I guess this version is not supported yet.
[00:45:30] <gpmidi> prahal: it works fine on my windows computer but not on my mac
[00:45:53] <gpmidi> prahal: prior to me upgrading bugzilla it worked fine on my mac and i got repo errors when i tried from my pc
[00:45:53] <prahal> oh this is encouraging to me ... I really want gnome bugzilla
[00:46:29] <gpmidi> prahal: heh, yeah, bugzilla integration is fricken awesome
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[00:48:08] <prahal> gpmidi, do you ahve something like : An internal error has occurred: All connection attempts to https://bugzilla.gnome.org failed. Please verify connection and authentication information. when trying "validate settings" as anonymous ?
[00:48:45] <prahal> with a user credential it gave me unable to authenticate
[00:49:21] <gpmidi> with anonymous it just hangds when i try validate settings
[00:49:33] <gpmidi> prahal: will let you know if it ever finishes
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[00:50:00] <gpmidi> prahal: got a socket timeout execption
[00:50:03] <nitind> multiHYP: You would use the SWT Canvas control as well.  You might want to look into the Draw2D part of GEF if you are planning to do much beyond primitives.
[00:50:39] <multiHYP> is GEF a separate jar i need to include though?
[00:51:28] <gpmidi> prahal: why in the world would it fail to even bring up a connection if the creds aren't included
[00:51:33] <nitind> multiHYP: It's a separate plug-in, yes.  Try working with the raw Canvas, first, then.
[00:51:51] <multiHYP> okay, thanks nitind !
[00:52:29] <prahal> don't know yet but now that I know it could work (due to it working with windows client) I am digging in logs
[00:53:22] <gpmidi> prahal: ahh, awesome
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[00:54:27] <grka> Have someone used gEclipse????
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[01:02:39] <srmafia> if i want eclipse to PHP and eclipse to C++ I have to download both packages? Or i can download the normal Eclipse and then add c++ and php support?
[01:03:10] <rhk> download one of them and add the other
[01:03:24] <rhk> or download the sdk, then add both
[01:03:36] <rhk> or download just "platform" and add them both
[01:04:03] <rhk> platform is eclipse without JDT
[01:04:20] <srmafia> hmmm
[01:04:32] <srmafia> i'm in download page and i can't see JDT
[01:04:36] <srmafia> what's the classic ?
[01:04:41] <srmafia> Ecplise Classic ?
[01:05:13] <srmafia> oh, Java development tools. ok
[01:05:29] <rhk> classic is the full sdk, with jdt, etc
[01:05:53] <srmafia> i don't see the SDK
[01:05:55] <srmafia> only
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[01:06:34] <rhk> sorry it's called classic now. I forgot :)
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[01:06:44] <srmafia> ok
[01:06:47] <rhk> the platform only version is in the list of "other" download
[01:06:56] <rhk> it's way small (40M)
[01:07:04] <srmafia> ok
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[01:07:16] <srmafia> thanks
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[01:10:23] <rcjsuen> If you're ever wondering what's in them, see ~compare
[01:10:23] <Arbalest> Wondering what the difference between all those Eclipse packages are or wondering what's included in them? See here - http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/compare-packages
[01:11:46] <rhk> I think the platform only download includes CVS, doesn't it?
[01:11:56] <rcjsuen> rhk: I don't think it even includes thta.
[01:12:21] <rcjsuen> tho i could be wrong
[01:12:33] <rcjsuen> unfortunately i deleted that zip file to make some space on my hdd else i'd just run a unzip -l | grep and find out :/
[01:13:12] <rhk> nope. it doesn't include cvs.
[01:13:28] <rhk> that's what I just did, more or less
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[01:15:52] <rhk> speaking of platform, is there a choice in "target platform management" that lets you choose just the RCP/Platform items? RCP SDK doesn't include the resource system and project/workspace management stuff, and I want that, but I don't want to have to hand-pick the individual plug-ins.
[01:17:12] <rcjsuen> I guess you'd have to point to that zip you downloaded.
[01:17:17] <rcjsuen> Or file an RFE asking for another "template".
[01:17:54] <rhk> it would make it handy to be able to target building an IDE where you have a nice base to work from
[01:18:56] <rhk> right now I'm using the galileo site for building my target, but I suspect that I'll eventually need to make my own copy in a folder or something
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[01:20:54] <rhk> hey, maybe I can look at how wascana is setup. I've been looking at tons of rcp apps to see how they did what they are doing
[01:20:58] <Laserbeak43> does Eclipse IDE for Java Developers already have a java compiler?
[01:21:04] <Laserbeak43> or do i need JDK
[01:21:17] <rhk> Laserbeak43: it has one built in. you only really need jre
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[01:21:39] <rhk> having jdk can be handy for a few other things though, and is required I think for some of the J2EE stuff
[01:23:24] <Laserbeak43> rhk: nice
[01:23:26] <Laserbeak43> thanks :)
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[01:33:11] <gpmidi> prahal: ah ha! i fixed my issue with bugzilla
[01:33:17] <prahal> gpmidi, will take a while , I use a modified swt and yesterday I had to test back the broken swt (which erased my fixed copy) ... and now that I have upgrade xorg to 1.7 swt does not compile anymore
[01:33:28] <prahal> oh ... how ?-)
[01:33:48] <gpmidi> prahal: in the bugzilla config i had the internal ip address as the site's ip
[01:33:51] <prahal> I found out how to fix the swt build but the new upgrade takes a while
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[01:33:58] <gpmidi> so my internal systems could use it correctly
[01:34:34] <gpmidi> but my external systems, aka my mac, could reach it initially but couldn't make any follow up connections
[01:34:35] <prahal> oh ... could you test against bugzilla.gnome.org as anonymous ?
[01:34:41] <gpmidi> sure
[01:34:56] <gpmidi> http or https?
[01:35:04] <prahal> https
[01:35:12] <prahal> I believe the http redirect to https
[01:35:53] <gpmidi> doesn't work, get "an internal error has occured: all connection attempts to .... failed. Please verify connection and auth info"
[01:35:54] <prahal> or maybe a stupid issue of non properly signed certificated that is not handled by eclipse, your test will help
[01:36:01] <prahal> yes same as me
[01:36:11] <gpmidi> my site isn't properly signed either
[01:36:16] <gpmidi> just a self signed cert
[01:36:32] <prahal> oh so this phase out this option. Thanks
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[02:10:50] <H4z3> How can I enable line numbers in Galileo? The FAQ solution doesn't appear to work
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[02:12:28] <njbartlett> H4z3: Preferences -> General -> Editors -> Text Editors -> Show line numbers
[02:13:13] <H4z3> njbartlett: Sweet, thanks
[02:13:17] <rcjsuen> H4z3: Which FAQ solution? Link?
[02:15:07] <H4z3> rcjsuen: I'd only embaress myself, the website is from 2004 :)
[02:15:41] <rcjsuen> oic
[02:16:01] <rcjsuen> H4z3: just wanted to know the source, if it was from wiki.eclipse.org or not (in which case it would need to be updated)
[02:16:49] <H4z3> It's not, its from some random uni website, surprised it returned as the first link from google
[02:16:58] <rcjsuen> :(
[02:17:07] <H4z3> cis.upenn.edu
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[02:40:38] <rhk> isn't there some plug-in or trick you can use to find out the id of any view while running eclipse?
[02:40:49] <rcjsuen> Plug-in Spy?
[02:41:38] <rhk> probably that's it
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[02:46:06] <multiHYP> is it possible in swt to have the settings of an application make the main application window change in size, kind of the drawer component in mac os x? in order to give it a certain animation/interactivity appeal.
[02:46:07] <Wolfcastle_> hello
[02:46:23] <multiHYP> rcjsuen: how are you doing!?
[02:46:29] <Wolfcastle_> I just installed the icefaces plugin and all seems well
[02:46:46] <Wolfcastle_> but there is no autocomplete for the xhtml files...
[02:47:05] <rcjsuen> Good, just waiting for my Eclipse dowlnoad to complete.
[02:47:10] <rcjsuen> Should've downloaded it from my work connection
[02:47:11] <rcjsuen> oh well
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[02:50:24] <jzmer> is there an matlab plugin for eclipse?
[02:50:28] <jzmer> s/an/a
[02:51:13] <multiHYP> glad to see eclipse to cocoalicious! :)
[02:51:20] <multiHYP> finally!
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[02:59:19] <jzmer> cocoalicious?
[02:59:44] <rcjsuen> Cocoa, for the Mac
[02:59:50] <rcjsuen> I presume is what is being referred.
[03:00:25] <jzmer> well, since 3.5 eclipse is cocoa ready --- that sounds some months ago
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[03:10:06] <multiHYP> yes of course
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[03:41:37] <hot_coffee> Hi guys, how do I run 2 versions of eclipse (3.4 and 3.5) totally separated on my linux system?
[03:42:16] <rcjsuen> untar one in one folder
[03:42:20] <rcjsuen> untar the other in aonther folder
[03:42:21] <rcjsuen> The end.
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[03:46:32] <hot_coffee> that's all? the plugins wont mess up?
[03:47:20] <rcjsuen> well, just don't do anything weird
[03:47:25] <hot_coffee> I see ~/.eclipse  and ~/runtime-EclipseApplication/
[03:48:27] <hot_coffee> not sure what eclipse puts in there
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[03:52:35] <prahal> hot_coffee, runtime-EclipseApplication is created when you run 'run as eclipse application' from within eclipse
[03:53:11] <prahal> the two eclipse should have a different workspace for added safety (anyway one cannot run both at the same time on the same workspace)
[03:54:12] <prahal> I do otherwise (running the workspace for both eclipse version ... but I bet I am saved by the fact those are similar set of plugins
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[04:25:44] <inspiron630> i created an object, it has a long name, how can i type the first few characters and have eclipse autocomplete it
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[04:28:35] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+Space
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[04:29:32] <inspiron630> thnx
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[04:41:31] <hot_coffee> I cant add update site, after typing in the name and location, clicking OK does not do anything in the Add Site window, please help
[04:41:49] <hot_coffee> Im running Eclipse 3.5 linux x86_64
[04:45:26] <alankila> Sounds like another case of needing environment variable GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
[04:46:00] <hot_coffee> alankila, where do I set that?
[04:47:14] <hot_coffee> alankila, just try that, it works man
[04:47:34] <hot_coffee> alankila, you make my day man
[04:48:37] <alankila> yeh, they'll fix this bug eventually but there's been about 10 people at least complaining about this by now, always same symptom: clicking a button does nothing
[04:49:10] <alankila> for some reason the information hasn't yet disseminated properly
[04:49:55] <hot_coffee> I've been wresting with this since yesterday
[04:50:22] <hot_coffee> trying to remove all traces of eclipse everywhere to do a clean install
[04:50:31] <alankila> yeh, well, it's known bug, someone's fixing it, but the fixes aren't yet distributed to users.
[04:50:46] <alankila> or rather, someone has already fixed it
[04:51:11] <hot_coffee> alankila, thanks man
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[04:51:40] <alankila> you're welcome.
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[05:49:47] <MTsoul> My linux distro packages eclipse without the j2ee version. I'd like to develop with Tomcat. What do I need to install to get it working?
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[06:03:31] <prahal> ok I found out why bugzilla.gnome.org does not work with mylyn ... when this site detects something in the mylyn user agent string it returns a 403 (switching the user agent via a web proxy to firefox string fixes it :(
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[07:55:25] <heshan> is there any IRC channel for VTP project?
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[07:59:12] <heshan> any one here?
[07:59:12] <heshan> :P
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[08:06:34] <MTsoul> this channel is as alive as all the african kids combined.
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[08:06:53] <haole> how do i install in my users folder an eclipse plugin? i want equinox, btw
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[09:42:16] <dpy> Does anyone know how I can get a custom (RCP) editor to save a copy of the resource to local history?
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[11:27:59] <MrStein> Hi! Eclipse 3.4.2 has problem refreshing (syncing to filesystem). I keeps displaying a folder I deleted long ago and it refuses to display a few files that asre present. I pressed F5 numeruous times. Also restarted. It is a plain priject with some .js files on some folders. Sounds known?
[11:28:13] <MrStein> I keeps=It keeps
[11:31:37] <francis4> MrStein: could it be that your project is linked somewhere else?
[11:31:53] <francis4> MrStein:  look on the resource properties of the file in question and make sure the actual file location is where you expect it
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[11:41:39] <MrStein> francis4: the location is OK, if I rename a file using Windows Explorer and refresh Eclipse, I can see the change there.
[11:43:05] <MrStein> for example, eclipse shows a file, that does not exists. If I try to open it, I get this in the editor window: Resource '/ProjectName/folder1/js/nonexisting_file.js' does not exist.
[11:43:45] <MrStein> After I refresh the project (or a subfolder of it), Eclipse still shows this file in the tree...
[11:44:13] <francis4> MrStein: I would try exporting your project(s) to  a zip file and then deleting your workspace and reimporting them.  Or you can just copy your workspace somewhere and start with a new workspace and import existing projects.  Seems like your workspace might be somehow corrupted
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[11:44:46] <MrStein> Another question: If I click on an identifier and Eclipse highlights  all places where used, is there a button or keyboard shortcut to cycle thru all of them?
[11:45:04] <MrStein> In a source code, like Java.
[11:47:27] <francis4> MrStein: yes, it should provide a search view and you can use the down/up arrows in the view header to go to the previous/next.   There is probably also a key bound to that as well when you are in the search view.  You can look at the key binding preferences to tell (search for search in them).
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[11:49:28] <MrStein> francis4: found it. Thanks
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[12:39:38] <Volodymyr> Hello, everybody
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[12:56:31] <pablisco> Hello everybody! I was hoping someone could help me with a question about eclipse plugins (for my university project). I am trying to record the events and content of a panel in Eclipse (using JDT) but I cant find any extension point that would allow this. Do I need to have my own build of the jdt plugin?
[12:57:20] <pablisco> PS: I'm very new to plugins
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[13:02:02] <pablisco> any ideas?
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[13:10:41] <gantu> Hi All
[13:11:13] <gantu> Any idea how to include Hibernate into web project?
[13:11:42] <gantu> searched on google no appropriate results.
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[13:16:57] <pablisco> @gantu I think everybody may be in bed... different time-zone or something :/
[13:17:17] <gantu> oh i got it
[13:17:36] <gantu> it is 17:20 right now
[13:17:44] <gantu> in my time zone
[13:17:53] <pablisco> 12:20 mine :)
[13:18:37] <gantu> pablisco, do you have any idea about Eclipse Ganymede
[13:18:59] <pablisco> As a user yeah
[13:19:18] <pablisco> maybe I can help (PS: its 7am in new york)
[13:19:36] <gantu> Do you know how to include hibernate into web project
[13:19:39] <pablisco> (and 4am in California)
[13:19:50] <pablisco> what type of web project?
[13:19:56] <gantu> ZK
[13:19:58] <pablisco> JSP?
[13:20:28] <gantu> JSP also possible
[13:20:43] <pablisco> well, as long as you can work with servlets you should be able to use Hibernate
[13:21:00] <gantu> but i can not add it as a library
[13:21:12] <pablisco> if you have a cover technology like JFace or ZK may not let you access the servlets
[13:21:26] <pablisco> what do you mean?
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[13:22:31] <gantu> somewhere i must be able to include hibernate libraries right?
[13:22:47] <gantu> i can not find it in eclipse ganymede
[13:22:56] <paulweb515> gantu: what do you have?  Eclipse + WTP
[13:23:01] <gantu> yep
[13:23:06] <gantu> Ganymede
[13:23:10] <pablisco> aright, well it has to be in the build dialog
[13:23:31] <paulweb515> gantu: was it only added in Galileo?  Or is it supposed to be there?
[13:23:33] <pablisco> right click on teh project and... (need to open my eclipse)
[13:24:14] <gantu> I used to use NetBeans
[13:24:37] <gantu> in NetBeans you have this kind of opportunity
[13:25:13] <gantu> paulweb515, i got it now
[13:25:20] <pablisco> Right click on project > build path...
[13:25:30] <gantu> pablisco, thank you
[13:25:33] <pablisco> should be able to add the hibernate libraries (need to have it on a known folder)
[13:25:39] <pablisco> no problem
[13:26:03] <gantu> paulweb515, thank you
[13:26:17] <gantu> did you use NetBeans
[13:26:23] <gantu> what do you suggest?
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[13:26:25] <paulweb515> who?
[13:26:45] <gantu> paulweb515, pablisco
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[13:27:08] <paulweb515> I haven't used NetBeans in about 9 years ... I'm sure it's changed significantly since then
[13:27:22] <pablisco> eclipse is far superior in many ways (used last year)
[13:27:41] <pablisco> speed-wise and the amount of tools you get
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[13:28:07] <pablisco> @paulweb515 do you know anything about plugins?
[13:28:11] <gantu> i see
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[13:28:50] <gantu> guys thank you very much
[13:28:53] <gantu> bye
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[13:29:39] <pablisco> I may come when there is more people awake in the states :)
[13:29:44] <pablisco> see you later
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[13:48:18] <ligi> hi anyone knows a room for eclipse - RAP ?
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[13:54:38] <paulweb515> ligi: you'll find the most people here, but I'm not sure if there are lots of RAP users
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[13:55:02] <paulweb515> ligi: benny`work is you best bet, but he's not online ATM
[13:56:20] <rcjsuen> ligi: You could also try posting on the forums.
[13:59:27] <ligi> paulweb515: / rcjsuen ok thanx - i thought there is a dedicated RAP channel which i did not found yet
[13:59:35] <rcjsuen> Don't think so.
[14:00:52] <ligi> perhaps somebody here has an idea - i try to deploy a RAP app as in this documentation http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2007/11/28/rap-deployment-part-1-deploying-your-application-with-jetty/
[14:01:12] <ligi> jetty is active after start ( port 7070 is open )
[14:01:40] <ligi> but RAP is not registered there - localhost:7070/rap gives a 404
[14:02:00] <rcjsuen> well, there's the "This post is out of date for RAP 1.2 (Galileo). " bit
[14:02:19] <ligi> yea but i found no newer document on this
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[14:02:27] <ligi> topic
[14:04:07] <ligi> anyone knows a better documentation on deploying a RAP app?
[14:04:35] <ligi> 1137    ACTIVE      org.eclipse.rap.ui_1.2.1.20090813-1453
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[14:18:36] <samuell> Hi, got a question: How can I do LD_PRELOAD=/usr/.../.../path-to-a-library.so in Eclipse?
[14:19:27] <samuell> When calling java from commandline (in linux) it is typically done like so:
[14:19:27] <samuell> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/.../.../path-to-a-library.so java ExampleClass
[14:19:31] <samuell> or
[14:19:34] <samuell> env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/.../.../path-to-a-library.so java ExampleClass
[14:19:44] <rcjsuen> modify your launch config and add it there
[14:20:13] <samuell> I mean, for an Eclipse plug-in?
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[14:20:26] <samuell> I have a .product file
[14:20:48] <samuell> And know how to send arguments to the vm in the vmArgs tag
[14:21:07] <samuell> But can't figure out how to do LD_PRELOAD since it is to be rune even before java loads
[14:21:38] <samuell> ([Plugin-name].product, i mean)
[14:22:14] <rcjsuen> I don't think that's possible. Ask on the RCP forums.
[14:22:38] <samuell> Ok
[14:22:39] <samuell> thanks for the tip
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[14:30:15] <mr_daniel> I want to have a good overview of a project I didn't write myslef
[14:30:42] <mr_daniel> which tools, helpers, shortcuts, ... can I use to speed up the process of becoming familiar with the software?
[14:30:43] <magnet> samuell, when you launch your product from Eclipse, it creates a launch configuration where you can add  environment variables including LD_PRELOAD; however when you export the product you will have to make a script that sets up the environment properly before launching
[14:31:02] <mr_daniel> I still use tools like 'call hierarchy' or Typehierarchie with F4
[14:31:06] <mr_daniel> but that is not enough
[14:31:24] <mr_daniel> I also want to see a class diagram (or other UML diagrs) if the software
[14:31:43] <mr_daniel> is there a tool which can generate a class diagram of a specific diagram?
[14:31:58] <samuell> magnet: Ok, is that file named "plugin_customization.ini" ?
[14:32:26] <magnet> mr_daniel, there is something like that in Topcased, but you will have to pay if you want a profesionnal eclipse-based Java round trip engineering software
[14:32:35] <magnet> samuell, which file?
[14:32:42] <mr_daniel> ...thats bad
[14:32:58] <samuell> The launch configuration file you mentioned.
[14:33:34] <magnet> no, plugin_customization is to customize the extension points
[14:33:43] <samuell> magnet: Hmm ok
[14:33:46] <rcjsuen> launch configs are stored internally in the workspace (unless made to be exported)
[14:33:48] <magnet> the launch configuration is stored within your workspace, you don't edit it
[14:34:02] <rcjsuen> anyway, setting your launch config won't realy save you in this case anyway
[14:34:03] <samuell> magnet: Ah, ok.
[14:34:08] <magnet> Go in the launch config menu by right-clicking on the project, Run submenu
[14:34:42] <magnet> rcjsuen, the launch config is the only way for him to have his environment properly set when running from Eclipse
[14:35:13] <rcjsuen> magnet: I was of the assumption samuell wanted it setup for him/her when the product was _exported_.
[14:35:20] <magnet> I guess somehow that the Equinox launcher has a way to run the JVM with some environment variables, but I have no idea how to do that
[14:35:47] <magnet> rcjsuen, I didn't read it that way since he already knows how to do that, except it's not automatic/managed by PDE
[14:36:10] <samuell> magnet: Ok. Anyway, thanks a lot.
[14:36:29] <samuell> and rcjsuen!
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[14:51:55] <samuell> magnet and rcjsuen: Ok, I succeeded now, by simply starting up eclipse with LD_PRELOAD before (+ having to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the directories where libjava.so and libjvm.so are located)
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[16:30:35] <alankila> tried out IDEA 9. I was impressed by the analysis tool that IDEA has. It does quite sophisticated things, such as analyzes if anybody uses a method and flags it unnecessary, even if it's public. It notices if someone has implemented system.arraycopy as manual for loop. It knows how to transform pre-java5 for-loops to foreach-loops automatically. It can automatically reduce member and method visibilities to minimum while still keeping the code working.
[16:30:42] <alankila> Any chance to see this kind of stuff in eclipse?
[16:31:48] <rcjsuen> Haven't heard such features on the plan for JDT anyway. Maybe 3rd-party plug-ins?
[16:32:22] <rcjsuen> and/or commercial products built on top of JDT i s'pose
[16:34:09] <rcjsuen> you can look here if you want
[16:34:12] <rcjsuen> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/core/r3.6/plan.php http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_6/plan.php
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[16:35:33] <alankila> okay.
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[16:40:32] <tarzan> hi
[16:41:43] <tarzan> i have two bundles, both using commons-logging. if i have included the library in both bundles classpath, and both bundles contain the library, why does equinox still complain? ... previously initiated loading for a different type with name "org/apache/commons/logging/Log"
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[16:45:24] <magnet> tarzan, what do you mean "including" in the bundles classpath; Apache's commons.logging is available as a bundle, you simply need to use Require-Bundle or Import-Package in your bundle's manifest to add the dependancy
[16:45:46] <magnet> and "equinox complaining" is not something very specific. It can complain in a lot of different ways.
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[16:54:33] <tarzan> magnet: nevermind, i prematurly assumed commons.logging does not play nice with osgi because of some obsolete information on some blogs... it works if i just use the bundle. thanks
[16:55:17] <mchv> Hi everyone. I would like to know if pde-build support plug-in cycles. For instance Plug-in A exports packageA and imports packageB,  AND Plug-in B exports package B and imports package A AND both should be build. I know there is the allowsBinaryCycle option (https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=208011), but as far I understand it allows cycle only if at least one of the plug-in in the cycle is already builded and Looking at
[16:56:11] <paulweb515> mchv: when you try it, does the compile yack?
[16:56:32] <paulweb515> mchv: traditionally cycles between components indicates something need to be broken up
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[16:57:29] <philk_> how can I add an entry to "Open With"? Does it only work with file associations?
[16:58:20] <mchv> paulweb515: That the strange thing. I am able to build on mac os but unable on linux. On linux the error is the classical "A cycle was detected when generating the classpath bugzilla".
[16:58:26] <Odin_> is much planned for Eclipse 3.6 then ?
[16:59:23] <mchv> paulweb515: The same script is used ti build, only the eclipse-sdk is the platform specific one
[16:59:25] <philk_> how do I create a PDF from a trac wiki with wikitext?
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[17:18:44] <philk_> njbartlett: do I need to close a servicetracker or is it closed when the bundle context it was created with is stopped?
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[17:34:19] <philk_> njbartlett: do I need to close a servicetracker or is it closed when the bundle context it was created with is stopped?
[17:34:59] <njbartlett> philk_: It's effectively closed because the framework automatically unregisters any ServiceListeners owned by a bundle when that bundle is stopped
[17:36:26] <philk_> njbartlett: good, then I do not have to take care of the closing myself. Thanks.
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[17:38:32] <philk_> I know i asked that before, but whats your oppinion on the EventAdmin? I have a ping service that you can use to make pings to end points. Should the result be posted as events, or using the whiteboard pattern? I would then have a ping history service that would also listen for ping results... would work both with White-board pattern or eventadmin
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[17:59:10] <tarzan> is it possible to run multiple instances of the same bundle in an osgi framwork?
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[18:03:39] <paulweb515> tarzan: bundles, yes
[18:03:46] <paulweb515> tarzan: plugins with a plugin.xml, no
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[18:04:03] <tarzan> paulweb515: thanks
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[18:04:40] <paulweb515> tarzan: What makes the difference is if the bundles has singleton=true
[18:05:30] * erdal always wondered why plugins were marked singletons :-)
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[18:06:10] <tarzan> paulweb515: static classes of a bundle are only unique to a bundle in this case?
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[18:10:20] <ltcabral> hey... im using flex development plugin, but when i compile an example it says Unknown Flex SDK: "Flex 3.4"  im using eclipse 3.3 (the only version that works with Flex) and Flex Builder 3.0. Im not sure if i installed flex sdk before using this version of Flex Builder.
[18:10:23] <paulweb515> erdal: yeah, it's the plugin.xml
[18:10:52] <paulweb515> tarzan: yes, 2 versions of the same bundle will have different classloaders, and hence different static values
[18:11:18] <tarzan> ok, hanks
[18:12:18] <max_> what the best way to combining Declarative Services and Eclipse RCP?
[18:12:57] <erdal> eclipse rcp can use declarative services...
[18:13:47] <erdal> are there many ways in using ds?
[18:14:41] <max_> erdal: Can I get a view to reference a service using DS? Ie specifying a component file for it?
[18:17:44] <erdal> i am not sure i understood your question
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[18:17:58] <max_> erdal, msg
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[18:19:37] <tarzan> i don't suppose there is a way to use the eclipes launch configuration to include multiple instances of a workspace bundle?
[18:19:42] <erdal> max_: org.eclipse.ui.services can define services "declaratively", as well
[18:20:18] <erdal> paulweb515: am i right?
[18:20:30] <hyksos> hi, how can i run only qt uic in eclipse-with-qt-plugin?
[18:21:20] <max_> erdal: ah ok, would I do that as an extension then?
[18:21:42] <erdal> yes
[18:22:05] <paulweb515> erdal: yes, org.eclipse.ui.services allows (in effect) part hierarchy services to be contributed
[18:22:59] <max_> thanks erdal! I will look into that, do you by any chance know a tutorial for that?
[18:23:02] <paulweb515> ex: the IHandlerService which scopes handler activations so they are only valid within one part
[18:24:30] <erdal> max_: take care of how to create the service in the factory (given in the extension point) to make sure that your view and your perspective use the same service instance
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[18:25:29] <paulweb515> and just a note, that won't create OSGi services ... DS (which works fine within RCP apps) will
[18:28:30] <erdal> no osgi service means that the service will not be accessible by BundleContext.getService()?
[18:28:51] <erdal> or what is the difference?
[18:28:54] <philk_> paulweb515: the "open with" menu seems to be only working with file associations. Is there any other "open" menu already in eclipse that I could contribute too? Currently my selected items can adapt to my own OpenAdapter interface and then I show an "open" menu.
[18:29:57] <paulweb515> philk_: AFAIK that's the only one, it depends on file associations and content type
[18:30:33] <philk_> paulweb515: ok, i cannot use that then. Do you have any idea, how I could mark a menu entry as "default"? In windows this would display the menu entry in bold font.
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[18:32:43] <philk_> Can I use the properties view also to change certain properties?
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[18:36:09] <philk_> how do I add the "Properties..." menu to the context menu?
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[18:37:54] <paulweb515> philk_: there should be the command ... org.eclipse.ui.file.properties
[18:38:25] <philk_> paulweb515: what does it do, when its executed?
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[18:38:47] <paulweb515> philk_: that opens the workbench properties dialog
[18:39:31] <philk_> paulweb515: and the selected object must implement/adapt which interface?
[18:39:40] <philk_> paulweb515: which class implements this command?
[18:39:55] <philk_> how can I quickly browse for available command ids?
[18:40:07] <philk_> something like "ctrl+t" for types
[18:40:54] <paulweb515> philk_: that functionality isn't available like that ... but in the PDE editor if you try and fill in a commandId, you can use the Browser button.  That will list all commands that PDE can see
[18:41:05] <ltcabral> hey... im using flex development plugin, but when i compile an example it says Unknown Flex SDK: "Flex 3.4"  im using eclipse 3.3 (the only version that works with Flex) and Flex Builder 3.0. Im not sure if i installed flex sdk before using this version of Flex Builder, can anyone help me?
[18:41:48] <philk_> paulweb515: I know the trick with the PDE editor... thought they would have moved that out already... is there already an enhancement request for that?
[18:43:45] <paulweb515> philk_: I doubt it
[18:46:47] <philk_> paulweb515: which command implements the properties dialog opening?
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[18:47:26] <ech0s7> hi
[18:47:46] <paulweb515> philk_: it's in ActionFactory
[18:48:26] <ech0s7> it's possible to use in eclipse-jee, eclise-cdt as plug-in ?
[18:48:38] <rcjsuen> I don't see why not.
[18:48:47] <rcjsuen> Just grab them from the Galileo site.
[18:48:49] <ech0s7> because i have tried
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[18:49:10] <ech0s7> rcjsuen: i have installed first eclipse-jee and after eclipse-cdt
[18:49:22] <ech0s7> but eclipse-cdt hides eclipse-jee
[18:49:28] <rcjsuen> How did you install?
[18:49:45] <ech0s7> tar -xvf in /usr/share
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[18:50:42] <rcjsuen> You mean you untarred one on top of the other?
[18:51:21] <ech0s7> yes rcjsuen
[18:51:30] <rcjsuen> That method is unsupported.
[18:51:32] <rcjsuen> Advance at your own risk.
[18:51:39] <ech0s7> and how can i do ?
[18:51:41] <ech0s7> rcjsuen
[18:51:54] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> Just grab them from the Galileo site.
[18:52:29] <ech0s7> rcjsuen: from eclipse-jee you are saying ?
[18:52:36] <rcjsuen> From whichever you feel like
[18:52:37] <ech0s7> with Install new software?
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[19:17:03] <ech0s7> rcjsuen: there is a guide to use tomcat in eclipse ?
[19:17:11] <ech0s7> i would create a servlet
[19:17:12] <rcjsuen> dunno, I don't use Tomcat
[19:17:18] <rcjsuen> nor do i do servlets / java ee stuff
[19:17:20] <ech0s7> (with tomcat+apache)
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[20:13:20] <Eno> Hello, I've a problem I cannot solve. I tried ( http://www.jcraft.com/eclipse-sftp/ ) for  SFTP on Eclipse but it seems to doesn't work.
[20:13:46] <Eno> Is someone succed to use SFTP on the last eclipse' version ?
[20:18:32] <paulweb515> Eno: you should be able to use RSE (from Ganymede or Galileo) ... it's part of Target Management, and can create ssh (and I believe) sftp connections
[20:18:38] <paulweb515> Eno: ~TM
[20:18:39] <Arbalest> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
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[20:19:13] <Eno> Hmm thanks, I'm goint to try that :p
[20:19:17] <Eno> going*
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[20:28:13] <Eno> I think TM is installed I've to figure out how to use it ( I just want to use remote file tought SFTP )
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[20:55:41] <rawake> i'm stupid
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[20:57:26] <rcjsuen> Is there more to your story or are you just randomly announcing your self-assessment in miscellaneous IRC channels?
[20:58:22] <rawake> well it started off when i was trying to figure out how to add my mylyn task list so i logged into irc (here specifically) to ask
[20:58:33] <rawake> and as i was writting my question i figured it out
[20:58:45] <rawake> then i deleted my question and said "i'm stupid"
[20:59:20] <FauxFaux> I love it when that happens.
[21:00:06] <rawake> and i just felt that you guys should know that i'm stupid because more stupid questions might arise and i might hit <enter> before i figure them out
[21:00:47] <rawake> it's like, if you know someone asks a stupid question but they are stupid then you can't be mean to them because they are stupid so that will be just rude... right?
[21:01:47] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure I agree with that line of thinking myself.
[21:03:28] <rawake> rcjsuen: thats good to know... i'll be prepared for you then
[21:04:29] <charley> interesting :P
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[22:05:35] <groton> ChangeValue is disabled for a String i am watching. How to change its value? What am i doping wrong?
[22:05:41] <groton> s/doping/doing :)
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[22:07:33] <rcjsuen> ChangeValue?
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[22:08:07] <erdal> just enter the value into the text field?
[22:09:19] <groton> ChangeValue is a menu item of the context menu, and it is disabled
[22:09:52] <rcjsuen> never heard of it, i guess it's some tool i've never used
[22:09:53] <erdal> afaik, that is only enabled for complex types
[22:09:59] <groton> erdal, i tryed to write on the string, but as soon the focus goes away, the string is displayed with the old value. Like if the textarea showing the String is only read only, or it should have been
[22:10:09] <erdal> press enter
[22:10:10] <groton> rcjsuen, it is eclipse :P
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[22:10:29] <erdal> rcjsuen: he means the debugger
[22:10:37] <groton> erdal, enter? it adds a carriage return in the string, since the text area is multiline.
[22:10:38] <rcjsuen> oh
[22:10:41] <rcjsuen> I missed the "i am watching" bit.
[22:10:43] <groton> erdal, yes, i meant the debugger :)
[22:10:53] <rcjsuen> this additional context helps, indeed
[22:11:01] <groton> my fault, sorry
[22:11:19] <erdal> maybe thats a bug
[22:11:33] <erdal> it should apply the new value after pressing enter
[22:11:44] <erdal> (or what else your keyboard support ;-)
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[22:13:54] <groton> erdal, let me try ctrl+enter
[22:14:43] <groton> it does not
[22:14:56] <groton> but i could Edit Watch Expression... bah
[22:15:05] <groton> it edits the name of the variable
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[22:15:27] <erdal> does changing other types work?
[22:15:57] <groton> yes, but i think i found it
[22:16:40] <groton> i can edit each single character, not in the right textarea showing the full string, but on the left, where the String is displayed like a huge array
[22:16:51] <groton> well, i got what i wanted, let's boom this servlet
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[22:20:52] <rcjsuen> try changing the string of a simple java app and see if that works i guess
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[22:29:20] <borschty> hi, i'm using cdt 6.0.0.200909110608, how can i format the code using "source->format" according to the coding-style configured in the preferences?
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[22:44:10] <nitind> borschty: Is it not adhering to the preferences when you invoke it like that?
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[22:44:29] <borschty> i can't even invoke it like that
[22:44:40] <borschty> the menu entry is disabled
[22:47:02] <rhk> either open a source file you want to format, or select one in the project view
[22:47:18] <rhk> I think you can select multiple files too
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[22:47:35] <rcjsuen> make a new proj, make a new C file, can you format that?
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[22:49:18] <borschty> no
[22:52:39] <borschty> weird, now the menu entries are not only disabled but they are gone completely
[22:53:23] <borschty> ah, i was still in the java view
[22:53:43] <borschty> in the C++ view they are completely missing
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[22:55:13] <rcjsuen> I wouldn't technically expect those to be perspective-specific, but anyway...
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[23:01:43] <borschty> it seems to work from the rightclick menu
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