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[00:21:01] <dwain711> I am building a plugin that uses activities to establish what perspectives a user can see. However if a user opens the "Open Perspective" dialog they have the option to enable an activity so that they can open whatever perspective they want. Is there a way to disable that feature?
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[00:48:13] <paulweb515_> dwain711: no ... although it can be circumvented using activities with expressions
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[00:49:00] <dwain711> paulweb515: so you mean enabledWhen...
[00:49:02] <paulweb515_> dwain711: another possibility is to open a bug requesting the ability to disable the "progressive disclosure" part of activities
[00:49:13] <paulweb515_> dwain711: yes, enabledWhen activities
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[00:49:33] <paulweb515_> dwain711: expression controlled activities can remove perspectives from the registry (no trace)
[00:49:58] <paulweb515_> dwain711: of course expression controlled activities are exclusively controlled by the expressions
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[00:55:49] <Lustra> Once I've added plugin files to the plugin directory, what do I do? I restarted eclipse but the Swing addon didn't appear...
[00:56:12] <temoto> Hello. Is it possible to make Eclipse caret non-blinking and one character wide?
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[00:57:34] <paulweb515_> Lustra: as of 3.4 you don't just add plugins ... ~dropins
[00:57:35] <Arbalest> To learn about how to use the dropins/ folder provided by p2, see here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Getting_Started#Dropins
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[01:36:36] <sliverchair> hi, got a suggestion, how about inheritance for editor-folds? got this on my code, http://pastebin.com/m498d3333
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[01:38:31] <rcjsuen> inheritance for editor folds?
[01:39:13] <rcjsuen> if you have enhancement requests, put it in bugzilla
[01:39:18] <sliverchair> rcjsuen, yeah, actually it's from Netbeans, but I'm sure Eclipse has editor folds too
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[01:40:08] <sliverchair> rcjsuen, any comment from my feature request?
[01:40:21] <rcjsuen> Not really, I don't have this need.
[01:40:32] <rcjsuen> Are you talking about folding arbitrary/user-specified blocks of Java code?
[01:40:52] <sliverchair> yeah
[01:42:04] <rcjsuen> You can comment on ~63808 then.
[01:42:07] <Arbalest> Bug 63808 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=63808 - JDT / Core / 3.0 - PC / Windows XP - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: jdt-core-inbox - [projection] Custom regions in code folding
[01:42:52] <sliverchair> thanks
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[01:52:33] <Raff7> nobody runs eclipse+cdt on win32?
[01:54:08] <rcjsuen> I've heard of people that do.
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[01:56:49] <Raff7> rcjsuen well i've a problem, someone should check if it's a bug
[01:57:00] <Raff7> or just a local problem
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[02:02:19] <rcjsuen> Raff7: I suggest you ask on the CDT forums or just file the bug.
[02:05:10] <Raff7> alredy tried
[02:05:21] <rcjsuen> Tried what
[02:05:29] <Raff7> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=rview&goto=490869#msg_490869\n\nIf
[02:06:51] <rcjsuen> Well, you seem to be getting responses.
[02:07:42] <Raff7> well somehow...
[02:07:46] <Raff7> i prefer IRC anyway :P
[02:07:50] <Raff7> that's why i asked
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[02:21:21] <rhk> so I see this new posting on planet eclipse by Jeff McAffer about Toast@Eclipse, and I follow the link to the Toast project (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Toast), and I try to check out the code from cvs, but the link given is an extssh repository string, which I can't access.
[02:24:52] <rcjsuen> rhk use pserver then
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[02:25:07] <rhk> doing that now.
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[02:26:07] <rhk> had to look around to find the correct username
[02:26:24] <rcjsuen> sorry, I assumed you knew it as anonymous
[02:26:48] <rhk> I've seen a number of anon user names in my time.
[02:26:55] <rhk> so I don't assume anything
[02:30:27] <rcjsuen> rhk: You've never checked code out from eclipse.org's cvs repos?
[02:30:33] <rhk> I have
[02:30:57] <rhk> but it's been a while, and I don't keep that kind of stuff in cache :)
[02:32:43] <rhk> Toast looks like a cool example
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[02:34:42] <nitind> Someone should update the wiki page, then, and fix that extssh/pserver thing.
[02:35:13] <rcjsuen> nitind: It sounds to me like oyu're volunteering.
[02:37:04] <rcjsuen> Done.
[02:38:38] <rhk> the learning curve for the impressive list of technologies used is a bit daunting though
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[02:40:25] <rcjsuen> rhk: As usual for open source + Eclipse.
[02:40:30] <rcjsuen> rhk: the world of zero documentation
[02:40:36] <rcjsuen> and N hours on the forums + IRC
[02:43:06] <rhk> that's probably been my biggest complaint with learning to work with the guts of eclipse.
[02:43:35] <rhk> even if there is documentation, it's a huge system, and takes many hours to decode just how to do things.
[02:44:04] <rhk> a lot of the old "get started" tutorials seem to be a bit out of date too
[02:44:29] <rhk> even some of the swt snippets are out of date. found one just yesterday.
[02:44:46] <rcjsuen> You mean found an outdated one?
[02:44:50] <rcjsuen> File a bug and get it updated :/
[02:45:00] <rcjsuen> snippets have always been good to me iirc
[02:45:05] <rcjsuen> (the swt ones anyway)
[02:45:24] <rhk> I'll have to dig it out again. I'm still waiting for eclipse to switch to the Toast target platform.
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[02:47:39] <rcjsuen> from my experience, at least the javadocs are good
[02:48:06] <rhk> yes, they are
[02:48:46] <rcjsuen> I don't think getting started is _too_ difficult.
[02:49:16] <rcjsuen> But when you're stuck, the places to start debugging from is non-obvious for newcomers.
[02:56:16] <rhk> my biggest problem was knowing what to do. More of a "I want to do X, so I have to do A, B, and C to make that happen"
[02:56:27] <rhk> I've got a better handle on a lot of that now
[02:56:33] <rhk> but it took a while
[02:57:42] <rhk> I can't seem to find the snippet I was having trouble with. Maybe it was operator error at the time :)
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[03:11:14] <njbartlett> How are root certs for install/update managed in Eclipse, and how can I get a cert that will allow users to install my plugin without security warnings?
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[03:28:04] <rhk> looks like toast has a few bundles missing in the repo
[03:29:46] <prahal_> anyway to get buzilla.gnome.org as a repository for mylyn ?
[03:30:40] <rhk> org.eclipse.examples.toast.dev.google and org.eclipse.examples.toast.rap.widgets.drivingsimulator are missing :(
[03:34:20] <rcjsuen> prahal_: I thought you could just define your own repos?
[03:37:56] <prahal_> ? as in make a template
[03:38:20] <rcjsuen> I mean isn't the Bugzilla interface Mylyn provides generic?
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[03:44:09] <prahal_> yes but the gnome bugzilla may not be or use too new of a bugzilla for the mylyn connector (the connector tell bugzilla 3.4 though I wonder if it extends to 3.4.2)
[03:44:56] <rcjsuen> Guess you just have to pray that the Bugzilla people didn't change anything
[03:45:01] * rcjsuen doesn't use Mylyn himself.
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[03:52:45] <rhk> I guess I need to learn EclipseLink too
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[04:40:33] <rhk> Target Platforms are way cool.
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[05:32:49] <clem> Hello,how can I found the version number of struts used in my eclipse?
[05:38:16] <clem> Is the plugin com.genuitec.eclipse.struts?but struts is a thing of apache,why aheaded by genuitec?
[05:39:11] <nitind> clem: Possibly their tools for it.  Presumably your subscription includes support directly from them, and they'd be the only ones to know for sure.
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[07:32:57] <xeon_> how come i could not run in scrapbook?
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[08:06:16] <xeon_> hello
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[09:21:36] <matrium> hi
[09:21:46] <matrium> I have a problem with org.eclipse.xsd
[09:21:58] <matrium> I'm trying to load and validate a schema
[09:22:40] <matrium> but the schema imports another schema and the validator doesn't seem to find the schema: XSD: The location 'permission.xsd' has not been resolved
[09:22:59] <matrium> it's in the same directory as the base schema
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[09:53:50] <francis4> matrium: did you do something like this: http://pastebin.com/m6191d867
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[09:55:43] <matrium> no
[09:56:08] <matrium> I'm simply creating a new resource set, try to load the schema resource and validate it
[09:56:34] <matrium> I've also tried to add an URIConverter to my resource set, but it didn't help
[09:58:11] <francis4> matrium: that's the code that I use and it seems to work
[09:59:43] <matrium> XSD_SUFFIX is simply a "xsd" String?
[09:59:55] <francis4> matrium: yes, sorry about that
[10:02:52] <matrium> didn't help :/
[10:02:59] <matrium> what I'm actually doing
[10:03:12] <matrium> I have a schema that is located in my plugin
[10:03:25] <matrium> the plugin is exported as directory, not as jar
[10:03:55] <matrium> the directory contains a subdirectory that contains the two schema files
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[10:04:34] <matrium> I'm creating an URI for one of the two schemas
[10:05:12] <matrium> the schema does an xsd:import for the other schema
[10:05:53] <matrium> loading the schema works, but the validator has the diagnostics "XSD: The location 'permission.xsd' has not been resolved"
[10:06:14] <matrium> ('permission.xsd' is the schema which is imported)
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[10:17:49] <francis4> matrium: hmm, don't know the answer then, i would just debug it
[10:24:44] <matrium> I've found an article that I have to implement a new schema locator, but my locator is never asked about the schema
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[11:50:52] <fra2> Hi, I'm installing some plug-in using the update site, but I get this error: Cannot complete the install because of a conflicting dependency.
[11:50:55] <fra2> Software being installed: Web Standard Tools (WST) Project 1.5.4.v200704200440-X3TmzmK-W-vP-Fs
[11:51:02] <fra2> from Eclipse Galileo
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[11:55:25] <kaprasanna> I have placed a command on a view's toolbar. I have implemented org.eclipse.core.commands.IHandler and provided it as the handler for the command. It works fine. But this handler should extend some other class. As long as I keep this handler not-extended it all works fine. But when it extends some other class the hanlder doesn't work. No code in execute gets called. How can I overcome this? Thanks.
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[12:14:56] <magnet> kaprasanna, are you sure you don't get an exception when you inherit from the other class? have you checked the log?
[12:17:03] <ct529> hi everbody .... my workspace returns the following error http://pastebin.com/m265e16b5 when I try to use the content assist .... I do not understand what it means .... can any of the gurus please explain me what does the error mean?
[12:17:24] <kaprasanna> magnet : I run the plug-in project to test and it opens a runtime-workbench. If at all there is any stack trace I normally see them in the console view of development workbench. But this time I see no stack trace.
[12:17:27] <ct529> sorry for the silliness of the question, but if it is a bug, I would like to be able to log something sensible
[12:17:58] <magnet> kaprasanna, no, it would be hidden in the application log
[12:18:27] <magnet> kaprasanna, you can get it in your runtime-workbench, .metadata/log
[12:18:29] <ct529> and I cannot even understand what it means :) .... so  http://pastebin.com/m265e16b5  is the pastebin of the error log + session data to see if anyone can make sense of it
[12:18:34] <kaprasanna> magnet : I'm just looking into the runtime workbench's log.
[12:18:58] <magnet> if you run your plugin in Eclipse IDE, it will be in the Error log view
[12:19:10] <ct529> oh! eclipse does not crash or anything, it simply generates this error and content assist does not work, so I imagine it is a non critical error
[12:19:13] <magnet> ct529, to me it means you're using a non-standard Eclipse plugin
[12:19:23] <ct529> magnet: ?
[12:19:32] <magnet> what is de.walware.* ?
[12:20:25] <ct529> magnet: it is the provider of the StatET plugin for writing R code .... is quite a common plugin, many people in the R community use it
[12:20:42] <magnet> okay, well the bug lies there :)
[12:20:44] <ct529> magnet: but what does the error mean? sorry, I am not a Java programmer
[12:21:04] <magnet> as the stacktrace states, there is a null pointer exception coming from that plugin, missing a check
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[12:21:37] <ct529> magnet: :D .... that is? there is something missing in the plugin or in my code?
[12:21:44] <magnet> in the plugin
[12:22:12] <magnet> If you feel unable to check the error in that plugin (RPathCompletionComputer.java:89), send your stacktrace to the plugin's authors / on their bug tracking system
[12:22:25] <kaprasanna> magnet : There indeed is a stack trace
[12:22:54] <ct529> magnet: thanks! what is a java.lang.NullPointerException? I have been trying to find some documentation on www.java.com but I cannot ....
[12:22:56] <magnet> kaprasanna, the command framework makes all errors in execute() silent, so you have to know where to check :)
[12:23:02] <kaprasanna> magnet : org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: Plug-in "MyPlugin" was unable to instantiate class "abc.def.TempHandler".
[12:23:13] <kaprasanna> magnet : I understand..
[12:23:25] <fra2> http://nopaste.com/p/a0fpula64 installing plug-in from Callisto
[12:23:40] <magnet> kaprasanna, well, your target platform is likely missing the bundle where TempHandler lies
[12:24:14] <magnet> ct529, it is a runtime exception the JVM throws when you try to dereference a null handler
[12:24:29] <magnet> basically, it's a segfault wrapped in an exception
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[12:24:38] <kaprasanna> magnet : No that's probably not what is wromg. In fact the execute method in tempHandler works just fine when it is not extending some other class.
[12:24:42] <ct529> magnet: oh! some serious stuff then ....
[12:25:09] <ct529> magnet: strange, because it only happens on one project .... if I use the plugin on other projects the content assist works fine
[12:25:15] <magnet> ct529, unproper error management, I guess the fix would be quick/easy
[12:25:47] <magnet> ct529, bad use case :)
[12:26:03] <ct529> magnet: that was what made me wonder whether it was my code .... but I do not understand how the code I write with the plug in can influence the plugin
[12:26:17] <ct529> magnet: bad use case :)<= what does it mean?
[12:26:22] <magnet> kaprasanna, you will have to see why this exception is thrown
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[12:27:25] <magnet> ct529, nevermind. The plugin reads your code, and something in your code is unpredicted in the plugin, hence making it crash
[12:27:57] <ct529> magnet: I know what are use case, but I do not understand the application here :)
[12:28:30] <magnet> ct529, well your project is a use case, you're trying something that should be taken into account and is not
[12:28:57] <magnet> it was not serious.
[12:29:24] <ct529> magnet: oh yes! :) I finally got it .... and it is not even Friday evening or Monday morning
[12:30:20] <ct529> magnet: the strange thing is that I tested it using the same code in different projects. There has to be something strange about the way the projects are set up. I am just trying to clarify the problem so I can give more information to the developers.
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[12:30:56] <magnet> ct529, yes it can be a variety of things, but the stacktrace should be enough for the developer
[12:31:13] <magnet> it's just missing a check
[12:31:25] <ct529> magnet: Thanks a lot for your help!
[12:31:30] <magnet> np
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[12:32:47] <kaprasanna> magnet : Right. One thing is clear : A stack trace is thrown if my handler class extends some other class while implementing IHandler. Question is : Is there a workarund / hack which will allow me to do this and get the handler working? Thanks
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[12:48:40] <fra2> is there an eclipse version for java web application development?
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[12:48:58] <fra2> I still have not resolved this problem with callisto plugin
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[13:12:35] <cdan> hi
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[13:19:40] <paulweb515> kaprasanna_: what's the stack trace?  ~pastebin
[13:19:41] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[13:21:42] <kaprasanna_> paulweb515 : org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: Plug-in "MyPlugin" was unable to instantiate class "abc.def.eclipse.TempHandler".
[13:22:36] <paulweb515> kaprasanna_: the question is, why? ... i.e. who is trying to instantiate your handler
[13:23:52] <paulweb515> kaprasanna_: do you have the stack trace in your error log?
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[13:24:54] <ct529> another strange question .... when we develop, the first few lines of the code are comment lines, containing information about the file + license information + information about the author, date/ time of creation and last modification ....
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[13:25:41] <kaprasanna> Got dc.. Have I missed any replies? The entire stack trace is here : http://pastebin.ca/1619123 Thanks.
[13:25:42] <ct529> How do you update those globally when  somehting changes, like the type of license, or the structure of the file, and you have like 400 files in the project?
[13:25:58] <paulweb515> kaprasanna: scanning
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[13:29:47] <cdan> is it possible to store composite data in a plugin's PreferenceStore ?
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[13:31:09] <paulweb515> cdan: if you have some information like a view's size, or position, or some values (like a directory has already been picked) those are traditionally stored in org.eclipse.ui.plugin.AbstractUIPlugin.getDialogSettings()
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[13:33:38] <paulweb515> kaprasanna: do you have a no-arg constructor?
[13:34:49] <cdan> paulweb515: I need to store a collection of (URL, user, password) tuple
[13:36:02] <paulweb515> cdan: for password related stuff you can use the equinox secure storage
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[13:37:40] <cdan> paulweb515: but does it support storing composite structures., because the PreferencesStore only supports key->primitiveValue associations
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[13:42:02] <kaprasanna> paulweb515 : The parent class from which handler was extended didn't have zero argument constructor. After adding it execute method gets called. Thanks. But the derived class should have a one argument constructor and when I add it again the execute method doesn't get called with similar stack trace. Further, I need to instantiate this class somewhere else in my plug-in and need to pass the parameter to this constructor. Is i
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[13:44:50] <Kudd> is there anyone who uses TODO here?
[13:44:55] <paulweb515> kaprasanna: no can do
[13:46:09] <paulweb515> kaprasanna: extensions only work with a zero arg constructor ... or you have to use some kind of configuration element factory
[13:46:36] <paulweb515> kaprasanna: org.eclipse.core.runtime.IExecutableExtensionFactory
[13:46:42] <kaprasanna> paulweb515 : What is configuration element factory? Have no idea. Is there some wiki page for that?
[13:46:47] <kaprasanna> paulweb515 : ok..
[13:47:21] <paulweb515> kaprasanna: it just has javadoc
[13:47:53] <paulweb515> kaprasanna: that plus org.eclipse.core.runtime.IConfigurationElement.createExecutableExtension(String)
[13:48:06] <kaprasanna> paulweb515 : I understand. Any example please?
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[13:48:46] <fantomas> Hi all
[13:48:50] <paulweb515> kaprasanna: ask for subclasses of IExtensionFactory ... but really, there's only one method to implement
[13:49:47] <kaprasanna> paulweb515 : Ok. I'll try with IExtensionFactory. Thanks so much.
[13:50:28] <paulweb515> cdan: http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CBQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.eclipse.org%2Fgalileo%2Ftopic%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Fguide%2Fsecure_storage_dev.htm&rct=j&q=eclipse+secure+storage&ei=qbzVSsrUI5WCMa_twJQD&usg=AFQjCNEpL3rBpdoFqpjd5VDt-GOtVSzVKg
[13:50:43] <paulweb515> cdan: ooops
[13:50:45] <paulweb515> I mean http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/guide/secure_storage_dev.htm
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[14:00:38] <fantomas> I'm trying to debug a php script remotely. I see some packets travel from server to my host on 9000 port, and there are replies from Eclipse, but nothing actually happened and no breakpoints triggered.
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[14:00:46] <fantomas> Any ideas where should I look at?
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[14:23:37] <fantomas> Hello???
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[14:24:01] <fantomas> Have you ever debugged a PHP remotely?
[14:25:36] <paulweb515> fantomas: how did you connect to your remote session?  I assume the PDT help docs have a section on debugging your PHP on the server?
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[14:40:56] <fantomas> paulweb515: 1) on server I enabled xdebug, just like I did it many times locally
[14:41:31] <fantomas> 2) I checked it working (processing error handling goes thrgough xdebug which witnesses about its presence)
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[14:41:50] <fantomas> 3) I configured host and port to my station
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[14:43:07] <fantomas> 4) in Eclipse I configured server, and added mapping: <absoulte path to files on server> -- <path to local copy on local computer relative workspace root>
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[14:44:53] <fantomas> 5) Now I'm running debug session, web browser is opening a website, I see traffic on 9000 port - xdebug talks to Eclipse...
[14:45:03] <fantomas> and nothing happends in UI
[14:45:10] <fantomas> no breaking at points
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[14:51:02] <fantomas> Eclipse doesn't save Web Browser configuration setting, so every time I start it I have to configure web browser again and again. Any fixes?
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[14:55:06] <paulweb515> fantomas: if there's nothing that will help you in the PDT help docs, I would suggest posting to the PDT forum: http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=thread&frm_id=85&S=ff53d898730cf3d89fd2561b92bfc5f0
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[15:07:56] <rhk> has anyone else been getting occasional reset connections when viewing www.eclipse.org?
[15:08:44] <rhk> I noticed it yesterday at home, and just thought it was my flaky home internet service, but it just happened from work on our 6Mb DSL which is always rock solid.
[15:10:01] <paulweb515> rhk: I get occasional reset when I'm viewing the forums ... I have to reload the page
[15:10:17] <rhk> ok, so it's not just me then.
[15:11:38] <paulweb515> rhk: I usually only see 2  a day (I'm not sure why, maybe it's a load problem on the server)
[15:12:37] <rhk> it was fairly infrequent, but in my experience, it's usually a sign that there is something happening on the server that the admins are not aware of
[15:17:15] <rhk> it would seem that the "Toast" project is missing a few of the bundles in CVS. Should I file a new bug for that, or just attach a comment to the "Toast Contribution" entry ~289164
[15:17:21] <Arbalest> Bug 289164 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=289164 - Examples / General / unspecified - PC / Mac OS X - NEW / normal / - Assignee: examples.general-inbox - Toast contribution
[15:17:31] <rcjsuen> rhk: I would do the latter, comment on said bug.
[15:17:36] <rhk> will do
[15:17:40] <rcjsuen> Especially considering that bug isn't even closed ;)
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[15:22:29] <rhk> done
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[15:23:45] <rhk> and some good news for us java programmers: http://java.dzone.com/articles/continuing-relevance-java
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[15:27:02] <srm> Hi, using Eclipse IDE for Java and Report Developers (actual stable) on XP SP3. I receive a load of error messages like "could not load bridge extension", "could not load connector core", "could not load connector ui" etc.... What's going wrong? What additional info do you need to help me with this?
[15:27:32] <rcjsuen> srm: I dont use that build but looking at your ~logs might get your further.
[15:27:33] <Arbalest> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[15:30:35] <srm> ok, I've pasted the current error log here: http://pastebin.com/m56fbd9c6 Many "..was unable to load class..." messages.
[15:31:31] <rcjsuen> srm: You download, you unzip, you start, it errors, right? I think you should file a bug.
[15:31:45] <rcjsuen> at a glance it looks like there are problems with the build
[15:31:54] <srm> hm, wait. Maybe it's because I did not do a clean install of this version. I've just copied over the old one. Let me check this.
[15:32:23] <rcjsuen> srm: you mean you unzipped one on top of the other?
[15:32:39] <srm> rcjsuen: kind of
[15:32:41] <rcjsuen> srm: That is dangerous and completely unsupported. Advance at your own risk.
[15:32:47] <rcjsuen> I don't know what "kind of" means, but anyway... ;p
[15:33:00] <srm> rcjsuen: yes. I understand that. Now doing a clean installation
[15:33:24] <srm> rcjsuen: kind of as in "not exactly, I've unzipped it and copied over the old one" ;)
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[15:33:44] <rcjsuen> touche
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[15:37:16] <tokam> Hi, I want to open a php file with the javascript editor, but it does not allow me to do so, what's wrong? I don't see the option
[15:37:28] <mchv> open with
[15:37:36] <mchv> on right click no ?
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[15:39:05] <mchv> tokam : "Window" -> "Preferences" -> "File Associations" for permanent settings
[15:40:18] <tokam> thanks!
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[16:04:14] <erdal> a manifest header can have attributes (?) that are provided in the form header;attributeName="attributeValue", attributes can be provided in the form attributeName:=attributeValue, too
[16:04:26] <erdal> are there any differences?
[16:04:36] <erdal> (note second case used a colon before = sign)
[16:04:59] <rcjsuen> one is called an attribute, one is called a directive (I think)
[16:05:20] <erdal> ok, what to use when?
[16:05:29] <rcjsuen> Couldn't say myself.
[16:06:16] <erdal> and why are there different types, anyways?
[16:06:33] <rcjsuen> you'll have to check the spec for that :|
[16:07:07] <private_meta> Does anyone know where the used svn-user is stored in subclipse? There's a different user stored than the one I want to use, but I don't seem to find a way to change that
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[16:16:28] <TomTom> private_meta: ~/.subversion/auth/svn.* ?
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[16:20:51] <private_meta> TomTom: Found it somewhat hidden, but thanks... it seems to be two places, ne of them the auth/svn* you proposed, the other one in the eclipse keyring
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[17:09:38] <brwnphyscst1> Greetings channel.
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[17:10:08] <brwnphyscst1> does anyone know how to search for usages over an entire project, as in the functionality of netbeans
[17:10:21] <charley> brwnphyscst1: do you mean instances of a function-call?
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[17:10:56] <brwnphyscst1> I am not sure how to reference it, however, it is like when you want to find text, or code that is used over the scope of an entire project.
[17:11:07] <charley> brwnphyscst1: I believe ctrl-alt-H when your cursor is in the name of a function will show you all the places where that function is called
[17:11:29] <rhk> right click on the thing you want to search for in the editor, then select "find references", and it has a dialog where you can choose to search just the project, or the entire workspace
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[17:12:20] <rhk> oops. I was close. the menu item is "References", and it has a submenu for projects, workspace, etc
[17:12:59] <rhk> you can do the same thing from the outline view
[17:14:17] <rcjsuen> assuming you're talking about java anyway
[17:14:26] <rhk> good point
[17:14:34] <brwnphyscst1> I need to find specific code such as the availability which is a substring of some final string, however, I don't know where this string is declared or instantiated, hence the requirement for a "free-text" search with similar functionality to the references.
[17:14:41] <brwnphyscst1> I am within a JavaEE project.
[17:15:18] <charley> brwnphyscst1: Not entirely sure what you mean, but you can hit ctrl+H and do a string search on your workspace?
[17:15:18] <brwnphyscst1> I am attempting your recommendations, however, I wanted to reference the specific  case, so I will have already inquired if it does not do as  I need.
[17:15:36] <brwnphyscst1> I will try that as well.
[17:16:32] <rhk> search menu -> text -> workspace
[17:17:04] <rhk> it is context sensitive. whatever the cursor is on (or is highlighted) in the editor will be searched.
[17:17:10] <Echidna> i wanna export a product with a JRE, but it only lets me select the JDK
[17:17:12] <brwnphyscst1> Dang.
[17:17:20] <Echidna> i have both defined in my eclipse's installed JREs
[17:17:35] <Echidna> the jdk export makes the product twice as large though
[17:17:37] <brwnphyscst1> I really need to read more about eclipse's quick keys, etc...
[17:17:40] <brwnphyscst1>  Thanks guys.
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[17:18:14] <charley> brwnphyscst1: ctrl+Shift+L will show you a list of hotkeys
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[17:31:30] <Vanger> Hi. What do you do if eclipse says "Version 1.4.2 of the JVM is not suitable for this product. Version: 1.5 or greater is required." and your java -version is 1.6.0?
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[17:57:12] <brwnphyscst1> Oh, I need one more thing.
[17:57:24] <brwnphyscst1> I don't know where to install the javaee javadoc.zip file.
[17:57:33] <brwnphyscst1> for use within a JavaEE project.
[17:57:51] <brwnphyscst1> There seems to be a different javadoc installation used for javaee applications work.
[17:58:01] <brwnphyscst1> Or am I incorrect, and doing something wrong here?
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[18:19:23] <mr_daniel> when I put the cursor over a variable, eclipse autoamtically highlights this variable and every occurence of the variable in the code
[18:19:43] <mr_daniel> is it possible to jump from one occurence to another?
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[18:20:12] <mr_daniel> for example, eclipse is able to jump from annotaion to annotation with Ctrl+. and Ctrl+,
[18:20:31] <mr_daniel> but is such 'jumping' also possible for a highlighted variable?
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[18:44:43] <rcjsuen> Vanger: use ~vm then
[18:44:44] <Arbalest> To start Eclipse with a specific Java VM, you should start Eclipse with the -vm argument. This should look something like 'eclipse.exe -vm C:\jdk1.5.0.6\bin\java.exe' or './eclipse -vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.03/bin/java'. Note that the path of the 'java' executable is being passed and _not_ a folder.
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[18:54:31] <Vanger> rcjsuen, it didn't like jre. jdk was a-ok
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[18:58:01] <vingian> hey folks
[18:58:57] <vingian> i am running eclipse on linux (ubuntu) and i recently uninstalled the spring IDE plugins because they were causing certain problems than solving them...
[18:59:24] <vingian> and now, all of a sudden I am getting eclipse exceptions switching to server views and saving files etc.
[18:59:33] <vingian> the logs show various causes...
[18:59:56] <vingian> anyone...???
[19:00:32] <rhk> is it a shared install or user?
[19:01:28] <rhk> are you running the version of eclipse packaged with ubuntu?
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[19:13:46] <vingian> no
[19:14:08] <vingian> rhk: no i am not using the ubuntu version
[19:14:26] <rhk> vingian: what version are you running?
[19:14:29] <vingian> and not sure what you mean by shared vs user install
[19:14:52] <rhk> shared is where the plugins are installed in /usr/lib or maybe /usr/local
[19:15:09] <vingian> rhk: i believe its 3.5.1
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[19:15:45] <vingian> rhk: didn't even know you could do that :) I just simply unzipped the archive and starting running it... :)
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[19:16:15] <vingian> rhk: don't like the unbuntu version because of how they have mapped their dependencies...
[19:17:09] <rhk> same here. I think that running the ubuntu version is only good if you don't plan on adding anything to it
[19:18:07] <vingian> rhk: even then you get all sorts of things, THEIR choice of jdk, tomcat etc.
[19:18:42] <vingian> rhk: anyhow - for the problem i am having right now, i even tried updating eclipse, but since everythings latest, that didn't work
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[19:18:50] <Kenjin> hello
[19:18:58] <Kenjin> can someone take a look please http://pastie.org/654817
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[19:25:22] <vingian> Kenjin: i took a look
[19:25:31] <vingian> Kenjin: whats the ver. of eclipse you using?
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[19:25:51] <Kenjin> so this is happening after not using eclipse for about 1 week and not having installed anything java related since
[19:26:35] <rhk> vingian: sun java is available. you just need to enable it in the alternatives config
[19:27:31] <Kenjin> vingian: 3.5.1
[19:27:32] <vingian> i know it is available, but thats my point... i'd much rather donwload it by hand as opposed to work around ways
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[19:27:54] <vingian> and fullfill odd dependency that the ubuntu packages thought might be useful
[19:28:18] <vingian> Kenjin: and this is an out of the box installation?
[19:28:19] <rhk> yeah
[19:29:11] <vingian> and i think Kenjin may have just helped me figure out what my problem may have been
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[19:29:16] <vingian> lol!!!
[19:29:42] <rhk> interesting
[19:30:13] <vingian> rhk: lol!!! i know...
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[19:31:01] <charley> Kenjin: Weird, does doing eclipse -clean help?
[19:31:48] <charley> or try mv ~/.eclipse{,.bakBug523195} and restarting eclipse?
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[19:33:40] <Kenjin> vingian: I installed it (OS X) couple weeks ago. Used it with no issues whatsoever. Didnt use it for 1 week. Now I launch it and I get that error.
[19:33:45] <Kenjin> charley: let me try
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[19:35:31] <stuckey> Shouldn't the window resize itself? Like when I run a program in eclipse, to draw some stuff on the screen, it runs off the screen.
[19:35:39] <stuckey> Shouldn't it make the screen big enough so I can see all of it?
[19:36:16] <Kenjin> charley: -clean doesn't help
[19:36:16] <charley> stuckey: it should, but some plugins may not do this properly... is this with the window maximized?
[19:36:37] <stuckey> charley: yeah, I can make the window bigger but the white part of it just stays the same size.
[19:36:45] <rcjsuen> Sounds more like the program's problem...whatever program that may be.
[19:37:47] <stuckey> hmmm okay... Anyone feel like being a mentor for a minute?
[19:39:56] <rcjsuen> What kind of application is this anyway?
[19:40:50] <stuckey> rcjsuen: It's just a simple program to draw a pyramid, centered at the bottom of the screen and starting with fourteen blocks at the bottom, with GRect.
[19:41:20] <rcjsuen> If you're wondering whether it's Eclipse's fault or not, run it from the command line and see what happens I suppose.
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[19:56:07] <mwatson> Requesting help with creating a project template
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[19:58:32] <Hobbit125> i have a project that has config files that I would like copied over to the build directory when running/debugging.  does anyone know how to do this in eclipse?
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[19:59:38] <mwatson> Requesting help with creating a project template: Basically want to do what this outlines [http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/topic/org.eclipse.cdt.doc.isv/guide/projectTemplateEngine/index.html but the "registering with eclipse" step 9 does not seem to work and I'm stuck
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[20:30:08] <b0c1^> hi
[20:32:40] <mwatson> hello
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[20:37:07] <elyezer> how can I get a directory in the workspace to put some files?
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[20:37:46] <vingian> Kenjin: sorry - was away... so you say you never did anything to it and this error just appeared?
[20:37:51] <vingian> http://pastebin.ca/1620199
[20:37:58] <vingian> rhk: http://pastebin.ca/1620199
[20:38:11] <vingian> I think that may be the root cause?
[20:38:57] <elyezer> I can get the WorkspaceRoot but I don't know how can I add a IFolder to it
[20:39:07] <vingian> another interesting thing is, i have noticed, while using eclipse my hard drive suddenly starts burning and well the IO is so high that the system is complete hosed
[20:39:30] <vingian> i can't even get the mouse to move let alone launch top/iostat to figure out what/why
[20:40:20] <swente> vingian: system swapping?
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[20:48:11] <luisgrin> im trying to build jmoney over windows server 2003, we get an error in Platform.createFactoryObject( .... The method createFactoryObject(String): is undefined for the type Platform
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[20:51:02] <vingian> swente: i shouldn't think so - i suspected that and turned off all swap space so that the disk io wouldnt happen
[20:51:15] <vingian> swente: and as i was writing the above message the same thing happened
[20:51:33] * vingian thinks should just install a fresh copy of eclipse
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[20:52:56] <vingian> is this some kind of a known issue with eclipse? coz this time around i simply tried to launch eclipse
[20:53:35] <swente> vingian: i personally never encountered that, but that does not have to mean anything
[20:54:30] <vingian> swente: well, first i suspected the SpringIDE plugin to be the culprit, since it kept scanning my spring configuration files
[20:54:33] <vingian> so i removed it...
[20:54:49] <vingian> swente: now the only plugin i have besides the default install is the SVN plugin...
[20:55:14] <swente> vingian: you might try a fresh workspace before reinstalling
[20:56:00] <vingian> swente: good point...
[20:56:18] <swente> :)
[20:56:28] <swente> (bbl)
[20:56:44] <vingian> swente: bbl?
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[20:59:53] <Theravadan> how can I execute java in eclipse while debugging?
[21:00:09] <FauxFaux> Execute how?  Evaluate?
[21:00:10] <Theravadan> I want to call obj.setPriority(0) before continuing
[21:00:20] <FauxFaux> ^u, ^D or ^I.
[21:01:31] <Theravadan> that does not work
[21:01:44] <FauxFaux> ...in what way?
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[21:03:03] <Theravadan> hitting ^u,^d or ^I doesnt allow me to enter java code to evaluate while the debugger is stopped in my code
[21:03:15] <Theravadan> in fact ^d delets the line
[21:03:49] <FauxFaux> ^D as in, ctrl+shift+d.  They all operate on the highlighted code, just type it anywhere, highlight it and go.
[21:04:26] <Theravadan> jesus christ
[21:04:37] <Theravadan> doesnt work
[21:05:08] <FauxFaux> Your inability to describe your problem makes me angry, so I'm going to stop asking you to stop failing.  Have fun.
[21:05:12] <Theravadan> i dont want to highlight anything i want to type in "obj.setPriority(0)
[21:05:20] <Theravadan> thanks for nothing, have fun too
[21:06:05] <rcjsuen> elyezer: you only add folders to projects
[21:06:17] <swente> vingian: (i was just away a moment)
[21:07:45] <Theravadan> in calling obj.setPriority(0), setPriority takes a Short as a parameter so evaluating obj.setPriority((short)0) worked, it didn't like it when I didnt cast to short which makes sense
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[21:12:34] <martianlobster> I ran a build, and found some syntax errors in a c++ file.  I just fixed that file.  Is it possible for me to compile that file alone, to test my fixes?
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[21:15:59] <martianlobster> :(
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[21:16:03] <martianlobster> I just read this:  http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.tools/msg50078.html
[21:16:20] <martianlobster> it said that it just just start at the right place, with the file I just altered
[21:16:25] <martianlobster> but itt didn't
[21:16:31] <martianlobster> I just ran projeect build
[21:16:41] <martianlobster> and it started from the very beginning
[21:18:04] <martianlobster> hmmmmmm nevermind,  it started at the beginning, but then skipped to the correct place
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[21:19:54] <mwatson> anyone?
[21:20:05] <vingian> swente: new workspace, so far so good
[21:22:40] <vingian> swente: I spoke too soon
[21:23:29] <vingian> swente: man this is annoying... eclipse just crashes after kicking my disks to overdrive...
[21:24:14] <vingian> and worst of all - no log files... i can't even console my self with a log file... :(
[21:24:53] <vingian> hey - anyone here running the 64bit version of things (eclipse & jdk?)
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[21:30:12] <elyezer> rcjsuen: I need to create a folder to store some templates (files) and that folder will be global for the workspace and hidden directory
[21:30:37] <swente> vingian: i tried it for the first time the last 2 days [nothing strange to report]. now, at home, i don't have 64bit
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[21:31:07] <vingian> well i am not sure what is wrong here
[21:31:13] <swente> ah. eclipse's xsl-preview took just 8 minutes to show the result :->.
[21:31:26] <swente> does it help to close e.g. preview-view?
[21:32:02] <vingian> but the way it hits my hard drive - its just agonizing
[21:32:02] <vingian> and then ofcourse, w/o any intervention from me - it just dies...
[21:32:02] <swente> how much ram do you run on?
[21:32:13] <vingian> well - i actually have 2 gigs installed on my machine...
[21:32:47] <vingian> and i have swap turned off on purpose so that i can eliminate the swap IO as a suspect
[21:33:27] <vingian> i am giving it another try
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[21:33:53] <vingian> at first the 'freezeup' would happen randomly, now it happens everytime i even try to launch the frigging thing
[21:34:09] <swente> probably you should try a fresh eclipse. at least i actually can't tell a plausible reason
[21:34:32] <swente> (.. and as the gurus have a break it seems .. )
[21:34:34] <vingian> same here... i think i still blame the spring plugins
[21:34:53] <vingian> coz this was bad at first, then i removed spring ide plugins... and now its worst
[21:36:52] <rcjsuen> elyezer: you could try creating a new project and making it hidden
[21:37:01] <swente> hm. i wonder how long xml-editor now takes to show the file. it has to beat the 8 minutes
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[21:46:04] <elyezer> rcjsuen: ok I'll try thanks
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[21:49:47] <rcjsuen> elyezer: I imagine you have a good reason for doing this. Plug-ins don't usually put stuff in the workspace root directly.
[21:52:46] <elyezer> rcjsuen: what could I do instead?
[21:53:14] <rcjsuen> Use Plugin's getStateLocation() method instead, or try to use it (if it satisfies your use case(s)).
[21:53:22] <elyezer> for now I'm using a java.io.tmpdir property
[21:53:27] <elyezer> but I'd like to cache the files that I'll be creating
[21:53:59] <elyezer> rcjsuen: thanks
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[22:02:18] <qux> is the SWT API still on the web somewhere?
[22:03:21] <rcjsuen> Isn't it just on help.eclipse.org?
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[22:08:19] <qux> I was hoping to find it in the old format so I can quickly search for class names
[22:08:42] <rcjsuen> qux: I dunno where that went.
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[22:59:42] <b0c1> hi
[22:59:52] <b0c1> I want to use mylyn + jira + subversive
[22:59:57] <b0c1> but I have a little problem
[23:00:23] <b0c1> when I have outgoing changes the outgoing files are groupped by Issue
[23:00:33] <b0c1> but the incoming changes is not...
[23:01:45] <b0c1> Any way to group the incoming changes by issue?
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[23:04:48] <b0c1> all tut say: "Incoming changes made by team members show up grouped by task"
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[23:05:05] <b0c1> but no, it's grouped by commit "number"
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[23:39:37] <wuntee> i am having some problems with the servlet-mapping on a j2ee project; i can see in the gui that it the servlet mapping shows '/s/* -> MyServlet' as well as in the web.xml file, yet for some reason ALL requests are being pointed to that servlet... do i need to somehow put  a default entry after that '/s/*' one to specify that everything else goes to the default servlet?
[23:39:47] <Maliciant> Does ecplise have a feature to replace all isntances of a specific class with another class? (Ie JButton with a subclass of JButton... global search/replace can be used but it would be text based and would create errors)
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[23:42:21] <wuntee> Maliciant: i know with variables you can click the variable name (in the source), right click and 'refactor->rename' may work the same with what your trying to do
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[23:44:36] <yeshuah> anyone here using pydev in eclipse on osx?
[23:45:16] <Maliciant> wuntee: That would only effect one at a time, which I could just change the class right there... I need to change it in hundreds of files... I'm actually seeing that there isn't a global search/replace on projects (or I'm missing that) which would make some problems but I'd be able to clean those up fast
[23:46:40] <wuntee> Maliciant: for x in `find . -name '*.java'`; do perl -p -i -e s/<FROM>/<TO>/g $x; done
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[23:48:37] <Maliciant> wuntee: Thanks, I'm a little shocked eclipse doesn't have something built into it... I think I can whip up a java program to do the same faster than I can setup perl on my comp (not on a linux box here)
[23:50:16] <Maliciant> Ah, err, I found global search/replace in eclipse... I was sure it was there and have used it before... it's only shown in the file search dialog...
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