[00:00:51] <private_meta> What does the other red x say?
[00:00:52] <private_meta> ah
[00:01:16] <private_meta> Have you fixed the typo in your import?
[00:01:22] <private_meta> the one in acm.grpahics?
[00:01:23] <stuckey> Yes
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[00:02:07] <private_meta> where is the red underline for the last error? and what is the exact compiler error? still the same as in the codepad-file?
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[00:02:21] <stuckey> private_meta: HelloProgram is underlined
[00:02:27] <stuckey> and add is underlined
[00:02:54] <stuckey> Was I supposed to run it as an applet or application?
[00:03:16] <private_meta> What's the topic of the lecture in your book?
[00:03:50] <stuckey> private_meta: here's the actual lecture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWheM30THaY&feature=PlayList&p=4087356BAE1AD11B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3
[00:03:59] <stuckey> Skip about half way through
[00:04:25] <private_meta> meh, too long
[00:04:27] <private_meta> wait a second
[00:06:28] <private_meta> add(new GLabel ("hello, world"), 100, 75);  write it like this
[00:06:56] <private_meta> stuckey: that should work, then run it as applet
[00:07:27] <stuckey> Still have a red marker at public class line
[00:07:33] <private_meta> hmm
[00:08:07] <private_meta> After saving your file, after it built the code, what's the remaining error message?
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[00:09:07] <stuckey> public type helloprogram must be defined in its own file
[00:09:30] <private_meta> stuckey: Do you have it like that? http://codepad.org/wzKgOmry and is it in the file HelloProgram.java?
[00:09:51] <stuckey> the seriziable class helloprogram does not declare a static final serialVersionUID field of type long
[00:10:02] <private_meta> That is just a warning, you can ignore that
[00:10:16] <private_meta> It should be underlined yellow only, not red
[00:10:26] <stuckey> It's underlined red
[00:10:33] <private_meta> wtf?
[00:10:58] <private_meta> If you look at the "Problems" Window on the bottom of your eclipse Window, do you have two entries, one "Warning" and one "Error"?
[00:11:13] <stuckey> Yes
[00:11:24] <private_meta> so the error is the "public type"?
[00:11:29] <stuckey> Yes
[00:11:31] <private_meta> the warning is the serializable
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[00:12:05] <stuckey> yes
[00:12:59] <private_meta> stuckey: Then you didn't rename the file you are editing to match the class. Click on the "HelloProgram" that is underlined in red, press Ctrl+1
[00:13:15] <private_meta> stuckey: and then select the rename option, it should rename it automatically, afterwards the error should be gone
[00:14:13] <stuckey> Ah
[00:14:17] <stuckey> Yep it's gone
[00:15:13] <stuckey> private_meta: thanks, works now
[00:15:40] <private_meta> You're very much welcome. Even more so if you recount lessons learned ;)
[00:15:54] <private_meta> By yourself that is, to remember what ya did :p
[00:16:11] <private_meta> back to ftp crawler coding
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[01:14:26] <TheEmpath> is PDT unstable on purpose?
[01:14:45] <TheEmpath> Could not open the editor: Argument not valid
[01:14:52] <TheEmpath> what the hell?
[01:15:15] <TheEmpath> i can't open a php file and i have no idea what i lost
[01:15:17] <TheEmpath> what the hell
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[01:16:23] <TheEmpath> not to mention google has nothing on this, and every forum on the planet that encounters this problem has absolutely no solution what so ever
[01:16:59] <TheEmpath> and im pretty sure everyone in this channel is a bot
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[01:20:43] <TheEmpath> goddamn it5
[01:20:53] <TheEmpath> im fucked
[01:21:13] <NoobFukaire> I've used the PHP plugins before
[01:21:20] <NoobFukaire> they work well enough in my experience
[01:21:26] <NoobFukaire> what OS and version of eclipse are you using?
[01:22:24] <TheEmpath> XP Pro, Galileo   Eclipse IDE for PHP Developers	1.2.0.20090604-2252
[01:22:42] <TheEmpath> i am so fucked
[01:22:55] <TheEmpath> this is the 6th time this has done this to me
[01:22:56] <TheEmpath> and now i can't fix it
[01:23:53] <NoobFukaire> my usage was on a similar setup, although Ubuntu instead of windows
[01:24:06] <NoobFukaire> so you just can't open the file?
[01:24:15] <NoobFukaire> Can you use open with?
[01:24:26] <TheEmpath> ?
[01:24:32] <TheEmpath> i can open the file in any other editor on earth
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[01:25:22] <TheEmpath> sorry
[01:25:24] <TheEmpath> Could not open the editor: Argument not valid
[01:25:26] <TheEmpath> thats what i get
[01:25:42] <TheEmpath> this all starts because fuckign eclipses autocomplete windows pop up and NEVER GO AWAY NO MATTER WHAt so you have to shut down the program
[01:25:54] <TheEmpath> of course, every time you shut it down, yuo run the risk of corrupting your entire project with this shit
[01:26:48] <TheEmpath> even if i copy and paste the contents of the file to a new php file, save it, eclispe immediately marks it as corrupt
[01:28:24] <TheEmpath> i love the program alot, its great, but these little things that lead to project crippling results are really really emotionally unsettling
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[01:29:36] <TheEmpath> i think it stems from closing the program while your code still has errors in it
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[02:21:23] <deuterium> hi all. i have troubles importing sources from a remote git repository which is available through ssh on my server. somehow, eclipse is looking for project files within the sources (which are in the remote git repository). as it doesn't find any eclipse project files, it just aborts. how can i simply import the sources, no matter whether there's any project file or not?
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[04:40:16] <ezeki3l> is there a way to disable the new use of cocoa binding in the galileo release?
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[05:06:01] <jetrii> There seems to be a problem with Eclipse + PyDev on Ubuntu 9.10. Installing Eclipse + Eclipse-Pydev doesn't seem to do anything. Pydev doesn't show up anywhere in the eclipse config. Is there a way to fix this?
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[06:52:07] <grim> sorry if this has been brought up before, but i'm finding nothing on google.  I'm looking for an easier way to get to the team stuff.  Ie, right clicking, and digging down to the team stuff is a pita for common stuff like commit/push/pull.  any suggestions?
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[07:45:12] <gein> paulweb515: No, it's not a plugin, it's a regular OSGi bundle
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[09:09:59] <lkthomas> hey guys
[09:11:07] <lkthomas> I am using eclipse PDT version
[09:11:09] <lkthomas> on java 1.6
[09:11:14] <lkthomas> but PHP prospective is missing
[09:11:19] <lkthomas> anyone could explain to me why ? thanks
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[09:13:01] <lkthomas> anyone still alive ?
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[09:21:25] <private_meta> can't explain it, lkthomas
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[09:27:54] <lkthomas> it can't identify any php script
[09:28:29] <lkthomas> the most funny thing is that it shows php feature is enabled
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[10:59:16] <private_meta> When developing C++ in Eclipse Ganymede, I can't even debug C++-Code with the normal local debugger, it says it takes too long and timed out (on Fedora 11), Error Message: Target Request Failed"
[10:59:25] <private_meta> Anybody got an Idea bout that?
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[11:09:29] <bnz> hi
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[11:10:26] <bnz> quick question: i have a working product build of my rcp app based on features. everything is fine except that i want to automatically add the p2 repository url to the available software sites of my product export. this is missing. how can i add it?
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[12:16:23] <stuckey> How do I keep the edit area and the project explorer open at the same time?
[12:16:32] <stuckey> I can open project explorer, but if I double click the code, it closes it.
[12:16:48] <stuckey> This is very annoyin behaviour.
[12:16:53] <stuckey> *annoying
[12:17:38] <private_meta> stuckey: well, that's what it's meant to do if you double click, it maximises the edit area. you can, instead of that, minimize all windows you DON'T need
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[12:20:34] <stuckey> private_meta: no, just clicking anywhere other than inside of package explorer closes package explorer
[12:20:35] <magnet> stuckey, just maximize the project explorer
[12:20:43] <magnet> you are into "fastview" mode
[12:21:07] * stuckey hates GUI programs...
[12:21:22] <stuckey> How do I get out of fastview mode?
[12:21:50] <magnet> there should be a small toolbar with the ViewPart in which the Project Explorer is (you should recognize the icon or the tooltip)
[12:21:56] <magnet> just click the maximize button on that toolbar
[12:22:05] <magnet> (when the project explorer is hidden)
[12:22:26] <magnet> you can also simply reset the perspective, Window > Reset Perspective
[12:23:04] <stuckey> magnet: default is four small windows top half... one big one on the bottom?
[12:23:37] <magnet> oh, no, that's Java Browsing Perspective
[12:23:44] <magnet> default is Java perspective
[12:23:56] <stuckey> That's what I got when I clicked reset perspective
[12:24:18] <magnet> then, switch back to the Java perspective, click on the perspective icon (should be top right in the toolbar), and select Java perspective
[12:25:06] <stuckey> It just says Java and Debug... I selected java
[12:25:41] <magnet> sure, that's it
[12:25:53] <stuckey> but now no project explorer
[12:26:07] <magnet> sure, it's not in the Java perspective, because the Package Explorer is often enough
[12:26:18] <magnet> to get it, go to Window > Show View > (Other)
[12:26:21] <stuckey> oh, wait I mean package explorer
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[12:26:24] <magnet> ah
[12:26:29] <stuckey> there's no package explorer on the left side
[12:26:35] <magnet> ok, then reset that perspective
[12:26:47] <stuckey> Yes!
[12:26:52] <magnet> :)
[12:26:57] <stuckey> Looks like what is in my book now...
[12:26:58] <stuckey> thanks
[12:27:01] <magnet> np
[12:27:22] <stuckey> By the way, I imported a project, but it didn't save it in my workspace
[12:27:26] <stuckey> Shouldn't it be saving it in the workspace?
[12:27:30] <magnet> it can be confusing at first, but the layout is actually pretty smart after you understand how it works
[12:27:45] <magnet> only if you select "copy into workspace" when you import from the filesystem
[12:28:03] <stuckey> Otherwise it will just keep up with where all this stuff is imported from?
[12:28:28] <magnet> yes, it will be directly editing the original files
[12:28:45] <stuckey> Seems like copying to workspace is a better idea... cleaner, no?
[12:28:53] <magnet> I think so
[12:28:57] <stuckey> I copied the folder into the workspace manually, then refreshed package explorer, but it didn't show up
[12:28:59] <magnet> but it depends on your project setup
[12:29:18] <magnet> yes, because the workspace contains a .metadata/ folder that keeps track of the projects
[12:29:28] <magnet> so do it with the wizard, it's the proper/clean way
[12:29:43] <magnet> Import > Import from filesystem + make sure you check the copy into workspace option
[12:29:52] <stuckey> Okay
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[12:59:40] <meat> hey, I want eclipse to add @Override annotations (Clean-up / Save Action) to my Java code but only for overridden methods (green triangle) not for implemented methods (interface, pure abstract; white triangle) - eclipse always adds @Override to implementations of abstract methods as well even if it is obviously able to distinguish between them (green/white triangle) - for short I only want it to add @Override to methods with green triangles :) Any
[12:59:40] <meat> Thanks in advance!
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[13:18:12] <nopcode> hey
[13:18:16] <nopcode> started using eclipse cdt
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[13:18:27] <nopcode> it takes like 10-15 seconds to start a compiled binary
[13:18:28] <nopcode> wtf?
[13:20:44] <nopcode> to be preicse, when starting debugging it hangs at 57% for 10 seconds
[13:20:46] <nopcode> very annoying
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[13:25:32] <ecfuser46614> hello
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[13:32:16] <paulweb515> nopcode: if you want to see what's doing, take a snapshot of the java stack
[13:32:19] <paulweb515> nopcode: ~deadlock
[13:32:19] <Arbalest> In a deadlock? http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/How_to_report_a_deadlock
[13:32:28] <paulweb515> There are instructions on taking the snapshot on that page
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[14:01:44] <jottinger> Are the eclipse 3.4 osgi modules in a maven repository anywhere?
[14:02:05] <jottinger> if so, where?
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[14:09:53] <zgreg> Hi.
[14:09:55] <oisinh> jottinger:  no - there are some repositories that have some maven content, but it is 'unofficial' and has not been deployed by the projects themselves. consequently there are some instances where the maven metadata is incorrect.
[14:10:30] <zgreg> Is it possible to use a unified diff instead of the (IMO) crappy graphical diff? I'd like to have a quick review of all changes before commit.
[14:10:40] <zgreg> That's with subclipse, btw.
[14:11:57] <zgreg> In other words I mostly want what the 'svn diff' command line gives me.
[14:12:58] <oisinh> jottinger:  watch https://bugs.eclipse.org/283745 for possible future developments re maven
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[14:21:39] <jottinger> oisinh: man, that bites.
[14:22:13] <jottinger> that REALLY bites, actually. Is there a way to build plugins via maven that doesn't involve lots of repository pain?
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[14:22:55] <oisinh> jottinger:  options are to use tycho, or to use nexus pro to proxify the official eclipse.org p2 repositories
[14:23:19] <oisinh> jottinger:  disclaimer - I have done neither, doing my eclipse builds using PDE.
[14:23:29] <oisinh> jottinger:  well, PDE + Buckminster
[14:24:21] <oisinh> jottinger:  if you can spare a few minutes, it would be good to weigh in on that bugzilla entry
[14:25:13] * jottinger sighs, now I need to create an account
[14:25:43] <oisinh> jottinger: the price we pay to reduce spam...
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[14:26:23] <jottinger> I can dig it.
[14:26:35] <jottinger> It's just annoying, and won't stop me from continuing :)
[14:26:49] <oisinh> jottinger:  that's the spirit! ;-)
[14:27:00] <jottinger> now i just have to wait for the email to go through...
[14:27:10] <jottinger> oisinh: I'm stubborn, what can I say
[14:27:26] * jottinger is also impatient. Come on, email.
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[14:39:29] <Kudd> I have a little problem with task view
[14:39:39] <Kudd> when I don't filter anything
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[14:39:50] <Kudd> I have my new // TODO message
[14:39:58] <Kudd> but when I click on "filter on TODOs"
[14:40:01] <Kudd> I have nothing
[14:40:05] <Kudd> do you have any clue?
[14:40:32] <deSilva> you have only todo:s and you just filtered those out?
[14:41:28] <Kudd> what do you mean by "todo:s" ?
[14:41:43] <Kudd> In fact, by default, you have the filter "TODOs" you know in task view
[14:41:47] <Kudd> I enable it
[14:41:58] <Kudd> and I have nothing after doing that
[14:42:08] <Kudd> it's like the TODO filter isn't right
[14:43:02] <Kudd> and in my php file, i have "//TODO delete this line"
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[14:55:15] <luisgrin> how can i organize eclipse om a window 2003 server  to allow different programers to work on the same project
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[14:58:44] <paulweb515> luisgrin: you can install one eclipse and have multiple users use it without interfering with each other
[14:59:00] <paulweb515> luisgrin: but are you trying to get multiple users to work on the same code in the same directory?
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[15:00:09] <luisgrin> hi paulweb515_, im just back, thank you for your answr
[15:00:23] <luisgrin> i have a 3 programmers project
[15:00:41] <luisgrin> me and 2 more, im new to eclipse
[15:00:56] <paulweb515> erdal: See org.eclipse.ui.internal.dialogs.RegistryPageContributor for an example of parsing and executing an Expression on demand.  See org.eclipse.ui.services.IEvaluationService.addEvaluationListener(Expression, IPropertyChangeListener, String) for tying your expression evaluation into the application context system
[15:00:56] <luisgrin> i want all of us to work using the same workspace
[15:01:25] <rcjsuen> luisgrin: That would be fatal I think.
[15:01:36] <paulweb515> luisgrin: you'd have to work in shifts (you can't use the workspace of another eclipse instance)
[15:01:53] <luisgrin> so svn is the solution?
[15:01:55] <jottinger> use a version control system to store the workspace, have each developer check it out to their own directory.
[15:02:21] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: hey, isn't there a collaborative editing tool with ECF?
[15:02:25] <paulweb515> jottinger: hi dude
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[15:02:30] <rcjsuen> luisgrin: Well I would expect you'd use a version control system regardless, no?
[15:02:34] <jottinger> hey paulweb515
[15:02:49] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: lol, you can only edit _one_and_only_one_ file together though
[15:02:53] <jottinger> I'm here griping about the lack of a maven repository that contains the eclipse artifacts. :)
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[15:03:14] <luisgrin> you are saying svn server or something like that? i never used before
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[15:03:30] <jottinger> luisgrin: SVN would work, sure
[15:03:50] <paulweb515> jottinger: I don't use maven myself, but I thought there was a standard eclipse:eclipse thingamabob
[15:04:09] <jottinger> eclipse:eclipse builds an eclipse project from a maven pom
[15:04:11] <luisgrin> jottinger how can i install it and put it to work ?
[15:04:18] <jottinger> what I'm looking for is the eclipse artifacts in maven repos
[15:04:19] <paulweb515> oh
[15:04:29] <luisgrin> jottinger i have windows 2003 server and eclipse (last version)
[15:04:30] <jottinger> luisgrin: subversion.tigrids.org, IIRC
[15:04:38] <jottinger> tigris, not tigrids
[15:05:11] <luisgrin> ok tigris.org ... lets say i can install it, then how you put it to work with eclipse?
[15:05:26] <jottinger> eclipse has subversion-capable plugins.
[15:05:33] <luisgrin> jottinger i see
[15:05:48] <luisgrin> ill install tigris svn and see :)
[15:06:14] <timothym> luisgrin: I believe subclipse.tigris.org is one of those plugins you can use
[15:06:48] <luisgrin> timothym: but first i must install svn server i guess?
[15:07:03] <Blub> Hi there, I am using eclipse to read a file which is cp850-encoded. unfortunately eclipse does not read all characters from this codepage correctly even though i set it up in Preferences->General->Workspace
[15:07:05] <Blub> Typing works fine but characters typed are encoded in utf-8 :-P
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[15:07:57] <timothym> luisgrin: yes. the link to the subversion server will probably have documentation on how to set the server up and to install/use the eclipse plugin
[15:07:59] <paulweb515> Blub: do you want your entire eclipse to work in cp850 or is it you only want to read some files in cp850
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[15:08:37] <paulweb515> jottinger: interestingly eclipse has artifact repositories that can be consumed (they call 'em p2 repos)
[15:08:50] <jottinger> paulweb515: that's the next thing I'm looking into
[15:09:11] <paulweb515> jottinger: but that would require someone writing a maven-p2 connector (or sucking them into a maven repo somewhere)
[15:09:21] <jottinger> I can do that part, it's just annoying
[15:09:36] <Blub> paulweb515: i have some old projects which are encoded in cp850... but i dont care if it is all in cp850
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[15:13:09] <paulweb515> Blub: so you've managed to open the file in a text editor by setting cp850 encoding, right?
[15:13:23] <Blub> yes
[15:13:34] <Blub> but some characters are just boxes :P
[15:13:50] <Blub> even though they are encoded correctly
[15:13:52] <luisgrin> as i read tigris.org i understood i must only install subeclipse using the eclipse install tool and thats it?
[15:13:53] <paulweb515> Blub: that probably means you don't have all of the fonts installed to display the 850 char set
[15:14:24] <Blub> but i can type those characters and then display them...
[15:14:33] <paulweb515> Blub: even in UTF-8 I get that with some language chars that are supported, but I don't have enough fonts installed
[15:15:00] <paulweb515> Blub: I'm not sure what would be causing your problem
[15:15:41] <timothym> luisgrin: don't forget to install the server so that subclipse has a place to share code with the rest of your team
[15:16:21] 
[15:16:46] <luisgrin> timothym: i have only found the eclipse plugin so far,  can i find it also in tigris?
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[15:18:51] <timothym> luisgrin: yep
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[15:21:55] <Rolaend> hi
[15:22:24] <Rolaend> anyone who can help me
[15:22:30] <Rolaend> i am searching for a ftp plugin
[15:22:43] <Rolaend> where i can directly upload "save on .."
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[15:29:20] <paulweb515> he wants ~tm
[15:29:20] <Arbalest> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
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[15:35:59] <luisgrin> timothym i found visualsvn, it has a free version
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[15:41:45] <rcjsuen> Isn't that for VS?
[15:42:24] <luisgrin> rcjsuen: i dont undestans, i think any svn server was ok?
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[15:43:07] <rcjsuen> luisgrin: Oh, I just assumed you said VisualSVN as in http://www.visualsvn.com/visualsvn/ and not http://www.visualsvn.com/server/
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[15:44:15] <luisgrin> ok, i got it and installed and added group and users, now i must make it work with also installed eclipse pluggin
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[15:52:39] <jottinger> damn it, nexus pro is $3k
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[15:53:58] <luisgrin> i installed svn plugin and visualsvn usnig por 8443, now in eclipse i must choose an url to work, this url must be? .....
[15:54:17] <jottinger> protocol://hostname:port/path, of course
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[16:14:42] <jottinger> paulweb515: you there?
[16:15:24] <luisgrin> it is working now:)
[16:17:05] <luisgrin> anyway one must take care that every developer must use the same eclipse version, or it is recomended that they must use the same in the same server?
[16:19:25] <timothym> luisgrin: basically, source control is separate from eclipse.. svn tracks file versions.. eclipse just edits the files.. they shouldn't have incompatibilities
[16:21:04] <luisgrin> scorphus, pablo hi!
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[16:22:06] <scorphus> luisgrin: hola, luis!
[16:22:17] <scorphus> luisgrin: long time no talk
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[16:36:00] <ge-ziad> eclipse 3.4.2 on windows xp with PDT: creating thousands of ~*.tmp files in %TEMP% directory everyday, and never deleting them. checked google and all i found on the subject were issues with Aptana, which is not installed. any help would be appreciated.
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[16:41:00] <paulweb515> jottinger: what's up?
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[16:45:37] <jottinger> paulweb515: I was trying to find out how to use p2 from maven, but it looks like sonatype has that cornered
[16:45:43] <jottinger> at $3k a pop :/
[16:46:32] <paulweb515> jottinger: so they're providing that as part of their product, instead of open source ...
[16:47:05] <jottinger> yeah
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[16:59:14] <paulweb515> jottinger: the tycho project (you're right, from sonatype) seems to already have a p2 resolver available - https://docs.sonatype.org/display/M2ECLIPSE/Tycho+build+target+platform+management
[16:59:21] <paulweb515> jottinger: is it the wrong type of license?
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[17:07:30] <jottinger> I don't know, I'll have to look closer at tycho. The docs were a little unclear about what tycho WAS.
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[17:08:19] <jottinger> ooo, tycho is a maven plugin that builds the RCP?
[17:08:22] * jottinger scowls
[17:08:25] <jottinger> I hate vendors
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[17:09:06] <jottinger> I'm always neutral about whether somthing is commercial or not, but as soon as the vendor does or says anything (including "releases a project") I realise how stupid and blind they are and I hate that crap
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[17:20:52] <FauxFaux> Grr, need an "unclose last tab" hotkey.
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[17:22:30] <rcjsuen> Usually I use Ctrl+W to close the tab so I just do Alt+Left to "go back".
[17:22:35] <rcjsuen> Still, would be helpful.
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[17:24:50] <sam[cOe]> Hi
[17:25:11] <kgrittn> I have an eclipse workspace which, after a SWT crash, won't open again.  I get an empty dialog box.  Any advice on how to recover?
[17:25:21] <sam[cOe]> Do you know a good plugin for Eclipse to manage task (tasks - online)
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[17:27:35] <kgrittn> At startup failures, log has stack traces starting with:
[17:27:35] <kgrittn> org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: XPCOM error -2147467262
[17:27:35] <kgrittn>         at org.eclipse.swt.browser.Mozilla.error(Mozilla.java:1638)
[17:27:35] <kgrittn>         at org.eclipse.swt.browser.Mozilla.setText(Mozilla.java:1861)
[17:27:35] <kgrittn>         at org.eclipse.swt.browser.Browser.setText(Browser.java:737)
[17:27:35] <kgrittn>         at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.ui.infoviews.JavadocView.doSetInput(JavadocView.java:928)
[17:28:40] <rcjsuen> kgrittn: use a ~pastebin next time, see FAQ in topic wrt your error
[17:28:40] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[17:30:32] <kgrittn> rcjsuen, Arbalest, thanks for the pastebin advice.
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[17:34:36] <luisgrin> The type org.eclipse.core.runtime.IConfigurationElement
[17:34:37] <luisgrin>  cannot be resolved. It is indirectly referenced from
[17:34:37] <luisgrin>  required .class files
[17:35:04] <luisgrin> but i have all the org.eclipse.core.runtime in the lib
[17:35:25] <rcjsuen> "in the lib"?
[17:35:32] <luisgrin> i was trying rcp examples
[17:35:35] <luisgrin> in the path
[17:35:41] <luisgrin> as externat jar
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[17:36:16] <luisgrin> i can see them all in referenced libraries
[17:36:55] <luisgrin> i have last eclipse (2 weeks ago) and i was trying the rcp example
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[17:37:32] <rcjsuen> You should be modifying your project's MANIFEST.MF file instead of manually adding jars.
[17:37:59] <luisgrin> ah ok, i didnt know
[17:38:36] <luisgrin> but anyway i copied the jars and it does not work, modifying MANIFEST will fix it?
[17:39:15] <rcjsuen> I cannot guarantee 100%, try it and see.
[17:40:47] <luisgrin> rcjsuen i must edit it from outside or there is someway to do with eclipse? i mean editging manifest?
[17:41:14] <rcjsuen> I was assuming you made a 'Plug-in Project' and worked with that (which would have generated a MANIFEST.MF file for you).
[17:41:17] <rcjsuen> If not then...no.
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[17:41:56] <luisgrin> it will be better to start the project again using the wizard
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[17:46:17] <luisgrin> rcjsuen: now im using Plug-un Project and i must choose some TEMPLEATE, i dont know which i must choose
[17:47:00] <luisgrin> i want to try RCP
[17:47:16] <rcjsuen> on the second page select 'Yes' then
[17:47:53] <rcjsuen> http://www.vogella.de/articles/RichClientPlatform/article.html
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[17:58:44] <sheeper> hello, can anyone give me a hint how to completly redraw a views toolbar?
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[18:00:04] <sheeper> i m stick to eclipse 3.2 and there s a bug with setting text of Actions in ToolBars of a view
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[18:03:21] <nitind> sheeper: Try looking at methods on the toolbar manager, like update().
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[18:07:40] <luisgrin> rcjsuen: it works now and im in the url you gave me, it is amazing!
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[18:08:43] <FauxFaux> rcjsuen: Hmm, I use alt+back all the time, but that hadn't occured to me. :(
[18:12:15] <sheeper> nitind: the method exists, but i didnt find how to get that manager - it s all initialized by rcp
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[18:12:45] <rcjsuen> from the view you can get the toolbar/action bars
[18:12:59] <rcjsuen> more accurately, the view site
[18:19:25] <sheeper> yeah the strange thing ist, i already got the ToolBar and forced a resize with toolBar.setSize(toolBar.computeSize(SWT.DEFAULT,SWT.DEFAULT))
[18:20:27] <sheeper> but then the (right aligned) push button is drawn over the standard elements (toolbar menu, minimize, maximize)
[18:22:26] <sheeper> if i manualy minimize the view and then restore it, everything is fine
[18:22:50] <rcjsuen> might be better to call the layout methods
[18:22:55] <rcjsuen> instead of setSize computeSize
[18:23:05] <rcjsuen> sounds like an odd pattern
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[18:24:15] <sheeper> thought so too, but that didnt have any effects instead of letting the button disappear if the new text is longer than the old (just as is was before)
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[18:27:01] <sheeper> ok layout(true,true) works the same way the setSize method does
[18:28:20] <rcjsuen> You probably need to layout a "higher" component than just the tb then.
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[18:30:26] <Serraphyn> is there a 64-bit version for Windows 7 x64? I tried to run the 32-bit and got some errors about x86 and 32bit
[18:30:47] <rcjsuen> Serraphyn: you would use a 32-bit jre for that, that may be the problem
[18:31:05] <Serraphyn> oh cause I d/l the 64-bit jre it caused issues?
[18:31:05] <rcjsuen> but yes there are 64-bit Windows builds, ~sdk-dl
[18:31:05] <Arbalest> Looking for different versions (including past and developmental releases) and/or platforms for the Eclipse SDK or any of the base Eclipse bundles? See http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[18:31:15] <rcjsuen> they need to match
[18:31:20] <rcjsuen> whether your problem was that or not, i do not know
[18:31:24] <rcjsuen> if it wasn't, that problem would surface later ;)
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[18:32:37] <sheeper> toolbar.getParent().layout(true,true) seems to redraw even the other view in that perspective
[18:33:03] <sheeper> but the toolbar doesnt change :(
[18:33:09] <Serraphyn> Does the SDK come with PDT also or do I have to d/l that seperately?
[18:33:19] <rcjsuen> Serraphyn: it does not
[18:33:51] <NoobFukaure> on some of IBM's docs, they mention a utility for osgi that allows you to share class space between bundles, does anyone know what that is?
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[18:34:04] <NoobFukaure> I have a two services, one consumes from the other
[18:34:30] <NoobFukaure> but the service that provides needs to be able to access both bundle's class space
[18:34:56] <srm> Hi, I've downloaded Eclipse IDE for Java and Report Developers on XP. When trying to extract the zip, I have to enter a password for several files. What is the password or what went wrong?
[18:34:57] <NoobFukaure> "Class Sharing Adapter" is what IBM mentions
[18:35:23] <rcjsuen> srm: use something else, like winzip, or 7zip, or winrar, or whatever
[18:35:28] <Serraphyn> rcjsuen: I can't seem to find a place to d/l the plugins for PDT, am I missing something really obvious?
[18:35:28] <srm> rcjsuen: ok
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[18:35:41] <NoobFukaure> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/javasdk/v5r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.java.doc.diagnostics.50/diag/tools/shcpd_osgi.html
[18:35:49] <rcjsuen> srm: http://wiki.eclipse.org/SDK_Known_Issues
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[18:37:09] <rcjsuen> Serraphyn: ppl usually let the provisioning system install it (instead of downloading it by hand)
[18:37:21] <rcjsuen> as to where it is, your guess is as good as mine, i don't do php
[18:37:26] <srm> 7zip works. thank you.
[18:38:15] <Serraphyn> rcjsuen: I start eclipse and find it in there?
[18:38:33] <rcjsuen> Serraphyn: yes
[18:38:48] <Serraphyn> okay thanks, I'll hunt in there then
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[18:38:55] <dfabulich> This is probably a dumb FAQ, but I can't find the Windows 64-bit Galileo SR1 download.  The download page just has a "Windows" link and the binary says "win32"
[18:39:09] <dfabulich> Where can I find the 64-bit version?
[18:39:41] <Serraphyn> dfabulich: I found it here http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5.1-200909170800/eclipse-SDK-3.5.1-win32-x86_64.zip
[18:40:07] <rcjsuen> dfabulich: only 64-bit windows classic builds are available
[18:40:42] <dfabulich> Does that mean I can't use WTP on 64-bit?  It's all Java, right?
[18:40:51] <NoobFukaure> http://code.google.com/p/transloader/
[18:40:55] <NoobFukaure> this looks interesting
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[18:41:27] <rcjsuen> dfabulich: I know people on 64-bit that uses WTP.
[18:42:00] <dfabulich> Serraphyn, how did you find that link?
[18:43:03] <Serraphyn> rcjsuen: just for the rest that ask, its HELP -> INSTALL SOFTWARE -> Select Galeleo site -> Programming languages
[18:43:30] <rcjsuen> Serraphyn: That sounds correct. Looks like you found it without too much trouble.
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[18:43:48] <Serraphyn> I'm not just a pretty face :P
[18:44:50] <dfabulich> ugh, do I have to upgrade to WTP by clicking on individual projects?  Is there an easy way to just get the JEE collection of projects once I download classic?
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[18:45:29] <Serraphyn> dfabulich, look under help -> install software
[18:45:39] <rcjsuen> dfabulich: http://bewarethepenguin.blogspot.com/2009/07/screencast-creating-eclipse-download.html
[18:46:23] <dfabulich> Serraphyn: Yeah, that you can install project-by-project
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[19:22:42] <pegleglax> Hello! Anyone willing to give me a little direction on CVS checkouts?
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[19:23:28] <pegleglax> How do I checkout two things in CVS so they share the same workspace?
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[19:24:38] <rcjsuen> you select the two folders in the cvs tree, and check them out
[19:27:26] <luisgrin> rcjsuen: do you know where to find some hibernate or database driven rcp forms?
[19:27:43] <rcjsuen> No idea, I don't work with those technologies.
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[19:30:26] <luisgrin> rcjsuen: can you advice me what to use for desktop application? i need speed and richness, lets say forms, grids and charts, speed means to select over 3 million rows grouping and joining againts some other tables
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[19:31:34] <rcjsuen> It's not clear to me what you're asking here.
[19:33:14] <rcjsuen> If you're asking if you should use Eclipse RCP for your application, then I would suggest you ask your question somewhere else as you may get biased answers in here.
[19:34:04] <luisgrin> ok, i dont know whrere :)
[19:34:24] <rcjsuen> Well, if you're using Java then you could ask in ##java.
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[19:35:30] <luisgrin> ok, i understand this is not in the eclipse scope, thank you a lot
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[21:21:10] <Guest544> I'm looking to download eclipse, mainly for xhtml/css work. I'll probably also be doing C/C++ and Javascript work eventually. How can I tell which package I should download?
[21:21:44] <FauxFaux> The normal one, you can add extra stuff later.
[21:21:46] <NoobFukaure> You can install any plugins
[21:22:20] <Guest544> Which is considered the normal one? Classic?
[21:24:51] <rcjsuen> I would consider that "standard".
[21:30:37] <Guest544> Thanks
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[21:34:30] <Omnifarious> I'm having difficulty getting my program to run inside a debugger.
[21:35:03] <Omnifarious> I have a maven project and am using Maven's ability to run TestNG tests automatically.  I want to debug the test it runs.
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[21:40:39] <Omnifarious> How do you run something under the debugger in Eclipse?
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[21:59:11] <darkangel> Hi. Does anyone know what this message means? "ProvisioningEventBus could not be obtained. Metadata caches may not be cleaned up properly."
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[23:00:44] <sako> hey guys should i get the all in one eclipse php package?
[23:00:54] <sako> or the  classic and download the extra plugins..
[23:01:10] <sako> I am going to use eclipse mainly for php, but possibly for many more languages
[23:02:21] <sako> any ideas?
[23:02:34] <NoobFukaure> it's the same thing
[23:02:45] <NoobFukaure> I think getting the all in one package would be simpler for you
[23:03:04] <sako> and then I can add-on other languages if/when I want right?
[23:03:10] <sako> other plugins i should say
[23:03:23] <NoobFukaure> yep
[23:03:44] <sako> i noticed classic is a different version than the php all in one
[23:03:44] <sako> the eclipse sdk
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[23:06:11] <sako> Anyway, I will just go with the php all in one
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[23:06:42] <nitind> sako: When it comes the PHP support, I think you're better off starting with their package.
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[23:07:22] <sako> nitind: yea I noticed when I was just reading up that PDT doesn't play nice across all versions
[23:07:29] <sako> so I won't take my chances..
[23:07:31] <prajjwal> is there a way to get eclipse ganymeade in Ubuntu 9.04 ??? w/o going to the site???
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[23:07:59] <sako> prajjwal: I have had nothing but problems with the ubuntu eclipse packages :(
[23:08:07] <prajjwal> :'( ...
[23:08:20] <sako> it's easy enough to download from the eclipse site and get set up I can help you if you'd like..
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[23:08:28] <sako> go grab granymede tar.gz
[23:08:32] <prajjwal> nah ... i cna do that on my own actually ...
[23:08:49] <prajjwal> but thanks for the offer ... xD ...
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[23:49:23] <scm007> hey how can I remove files from my project without deleting them from the filesystem/
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