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[00:28:09] <akan01n> hi, anyone here using Ganymede 3.4.2 + PDT 2.0 ? I have a fresh install with DLTK 1.0, PDT 2.0 and J2EE package. Im getting "Could not open the editor: Editor could not be initialized" error msg...
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[00:32:29] <Jahannan> Hey everyone... I'm currently working on extracting some unimportant files from my main plugin to an external plugin extending my plugin, but I'm having a few issues.
[00:33:26] <Jahannan> Firstly, the external plugin defines some views, but these views are no longer showing up now that the plugin has been relocated. Log is http://www.pastebin.ca/1596023, short version is it's a ClassNotFoundException
[00:34:08] <paulweb515_> Jahannan: relocated in what way
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[00:34:21] <Jahannan> It's probably an issue with plugin.xml or manifest.mf though, can anyone take a look at them and see if they can spot anything obviously wrong? plugin.xml is at http://www.pastebin.ca/1596030
[00:34:48] <Jahannan> Relocated in that I took the classes out and placed them in an external plugin that has a dependency on our core plugin
[00:35:17] <Jahannan> fffff
[00:35:19] <Jahannan> I'm an idiot
[00:35:22] <paulweb515_> Jahannan: You took the classes out and the plugin.xml as well?
[00:35:24] <Jahannan> I forgot to write an Activator.java
[00:35:42] <Jahannan> Nah, I only copied out the parts that are relevant to the extracted classes
[00:35:44] <paulweb515_> Jahannan: so you're getting that the plugin can't activate and then class not found?
[00:36:06] <paulweb515_> Jahannan: I mean that your external plugin has your view class *and* view definition?
[00:36:17] <Jahannan> I assume so? Not having an Activator would presumably lead to the issues I'm having.
[00:37:09] <Jahannan> Yes, it does have the view class and definition. The definition might be wrong though, I'm not the best at working with plugin.xml
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[00:37:23] <paulweb515_> Jahannan: yes, if it tries and fails to start your activator, it will issue a bunch of ClassNotFoundExceptions afterwards
[00:37:44] <paulweb515_> Jahannan: your definition was pretty simple, it's probably OK (as long as that plugin contains the class)
[00:41:13] <prahal> got the problem though no idea what is at fault (jvm, eclipse , native code seems to be right) ... ie eclipse set a constructor for a glib class , then call a gtk function that call this glib class that calls the eclipse defined constructor . But this constructor call fails with an error "resource temporarily unavailable" .
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[00:42:43] <prahal> note that the eclipse defined constructor works most of the time. Only when destroying the widget hierarchy does it fails (but this is a modal window, the java function set as the glib class constructor is defined in DIsplay which ought to be valid for the whole session
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[00:43:54] <prahal> lock, synchronized . I believe a threading issue if it is eclipse fault.
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[00:46:58] <paulweb515_> prahal: eclipse locks most calls into GTK code ... I've seen it cause a deadlock when postEvent(*) tried to lock the display thread (as a response to a callback from the display thread)
[00:47:37] <prahal> agh
[00:48:11] <paulweb515_> prahal: but that was a very specific scenario that cause the deadlock ... when destroying the widgets, how many threads are being used?
[00:50:37] <paulweb515_> It only effected my code because of the nature of the callbacks
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[00:52:09] <prahal> there are no means to get a stack trace of such issue it seems. 15 threads
[00:52:45] <prahal> I mean when I break into the glib code I cannot "where" the java code
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[01:20:45] <Jahannan> Okay, so it's still not working even though I've got the Activator up and running
[01:22:47] <Jahannan> More specifically, it says "Could not create action delegate for id: nz.ac.canterbury.patchworkmetrics.reporting.actions.activityReport", followed by "Plug-in nz.ac.patchworkmetrics.reporting was unable to load class nz.ac.canterbury.patchworkmetrics.core.reporting.ActivityReportAction."
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[01:29:54] <Jahannan> Checking with System.err printouts indicates that the Activator's start method is never called. Any hints as to why this might be happening?
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[01:39:29] <kevliu> Hi, does anyone use Eclipse on Mac OS X?
[01:39:46] <kevliu> I'm trying to put in arguments to a sample program I downloaded for a school project.
[01:39:54] <kevliu> However, my "Program Arguments" box is disabled for some reason.
[01:40:02] <kevliu> And I can't seem to figure out how to enable it.
[01:40:46] <Jahannan> Okay, so could someone please look at my Manifest.MF? I'm pretty sure that has to be where things are going wrong, and I'm not very clear on how. Someone with more experience would be greatly appreciated: http://www.pastebin.ca/1596214
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[01:47:24] <prahal> a callback that is meant to be called by native code should not live in the main thread should it ?
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[01:49:33] <NoobFukaire> sounds like a recipe for heartbreak
[01:49:48] <NoobFukaire> piercing the native barrier is an expensive operation
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[02:10:04] <prahal> small issue . Is there a plugin or such that ide the menubar and make it available via a single icon ? I am short on screen space
[02:10:45] <prahal> and I have seen this done on tasktop (htough they may achieve that through heavy customization of the rcp)
[02:11:33] <ScottG> Does anyone know of a plugin for bash scripting in eclipse? (syntax highlighting, etc...)
[02:11:40] <ScottG> I know it really isn
[02:12:01] <NoobFukaire> I'm sure there are plugins for syntax coloring
[02:12:05] <ScottG> 't that necessary just for writing a bash script but i think it would really help
[02:12:07] <NoobFukaire> beyond that, I'm not sure what you're find
[02:12:50] <ScottG> I had writen plenty of perl programs in vi but this program I am writing in now has been so much easier with this perl plugin
[02:13:27] <ScottG> Well beyond syntax highlighting the only other thing I can think of would be auto-completion of variables.
[02:14:54] <Jahannan> Okay, so I think I'm about done with the fixes now, got most of the plugin working. My only problem as it stands is that I'm getting an error "Could not create action delegate for id: nz.ac.canterbury.patchworkmetrics.reporting.actions.activityReport", with no stack trace. Any suggestions? Google is turning up nothing, so far.
[02:15:21] <ScottG> And of course validation. Too many times have I just forgot something simple like some brackets
[02:17:16] <ScottG> NoobFukaire: Do you happen to know anything that has that?
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[02:31:51] <nitind> ScottG: http://sourceforge.net/projects/shelled/ ?  Never used it myself, but I've at least heard of it.
[02:34:01] <ScottG> nitind: Yea I installed it. Trying to figure out where it is in the GUI though
[02:37:32] <nitind> ScottG: File context menu->Open With... ?
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[02:40:18] <ScottG> nitind: ill try
[02:40:58] <ScottG> nitind: Oh snap. Seems to work...
[02:41:43] <ScottG> I was thinking it would let me create a bash project or something. Whenever I had installed a plugin before for a language it let me create a project for that
[02:43:35] <nitind> How much a particular plug-in or language support requires project setup can vary a lot.
[02:45:12] <ScottG> nitind: Yea true. I can't seem to edit the syntax highlighting. Still looking though. I have a dark theme so the normal text can't be black lol
[02:45:38] <nitind> ScottG: No preference page?
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[02:46:53] <ScottG> Ah I found it by right clicking on the text area and going to preferences
[02:47:09] <nitind> That's a standard shortcut, too, nowadays.
[02:47:20] <ScottG> It was under general > editors > text editors. I was searching for the word shell
[02:47:34] <nitind> The syntax coloring?
[02:47:45] <ScottG> Yea thats useful. Eclipse is an amazing program. It's a single location for all of your development
[02:48:41] <nitind> And a whole lot more.
[02:49:28] <ScottG> What else does it help with besides development?
[02:51:04] <nitind> IRC.  Uhhh...email?
[02:51:19] <ScottG> lol irc? How?
[02:51:26] <ScottG> And you mean like an email client?
[02:52:06] <ScottG> I guess I can see that. How IRC though?
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[02:52:27] <nitind> ScottG: http://dev.eclipse.org/blogs/wayne/2007/06/28/12-steps/
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[02:54:14] <ScottG> lol huh
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[03:52:13] <usepidgin> hi, what is the equivalent in Eclipse of passing a -Dfoo=bar to java?
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[03:54:19] <nitind> usepidgin: VM arguments on the Arguments tab, http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.jdt.doc.user/tasks/tasks-java-local-configuration.htm
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[03:59:38] <usepidgin> nitind: thanks. I added a line consisting of java.security.auth.login.config=bonita-runtime/conf/jaas-standard.cfg to the VM arguments pane of the Arguments tab of the Run/Debug Settings entry for the JUnit test I'm running, but I get a java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: java/security/auth/login/config=bonita-runtime/conf/jaas-standard/cfg error
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[04:00:37] <usepidgin> I needed -Djava.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: java/security/auth/login/config=bonita-runtime/conf/jaas-standard/cfg
[04:01:15] <nitind> A JUnit that requires a system property to execute cleanly might need rethinking.
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[05:08:17] <dublisk> Does anyone know if there has been progress on "mouse-hover" debugging of STL containers? http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/Better_Debugging_(GSoC_project)
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[06:15:41] <ezeki3l> how do i turn off "[Java CocoaComponent compatibility mode]: Enabled" in osx?
[06:15:54] <ezeki3l> i want to disable this
[06:16:06] <ezeki3l> no cocoacomponent compatibility
[06:16:13] <ezeki3l> gimme old jvm back
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[07:49:27] <NicolasRaoul> Hello all
[07:50:18] <NicolasRaoul> I have a workspace that makes Eclipse JEE crash (always reproducible) with latest JVM 6u16. Anyone interested?
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[07:53:40] <nitind> NicolasRaoul: I am, but a Bugzilla report would be more useful.
[07:54:19] <NicolasRaoul> ok I will try :-)
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[07:56:45] <nitind> NicolasRaoul: Does it *not* crash with other VM versions?
[07:57:17] <NicolasRaoul> sorry i did not try. Just wanted to mention I am up-to-date
[07:58:24] <NicolasRaoul> since it is a HotSpot JVM crash (but in an Eclipse lib it seems, libgail.so)
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[08:28:58] <nitind> NicolasRaoul: libgail.so is part of GTK+2, it's only used by Eclipse.  Put all the details you can into your bug report.
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[08:52:47] <luketheduke> hello,
[08:54:24] <luketheduke> I am looking to install UMLet as an Eclipse plugin. It comes as a jar file and with the instruction to put it into "eclipse's plugin folder"... I am on Ubuntu 9.04
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[08:54:33] <luketheduke> where is the plugin folder?
[08:54:47] <nitind> try "eclipse/plugins"
[08:55:11] <luketheduke> what is that as a fully qualified path?
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[09:24:42] <luketheduke> nitind: ?
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[09:34:21] <nitind> luketheduke: Depends on where you unpoacked Eclipse itself.
[09:36:14] <luketheduke> oh
[09:36:23] <luketheduke> I installed it with apt
[09:36:30] <luketheduke> I have no idea where it put it
[09:38:35] <luketheduke> ugh, I found it
[09:38:45] <luketheduke> thanks
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[10:08:39] <indietrash> hi. I'm new to Eclipse, and I don't get this - AT ALL. whenever I compile something, it goes into debug mode, in which url class loader pops up with "source not found", and the code doesn't compile. help?
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[10:18:23] <NicolasRaoul> indietrash, the debugger probably detects a failure in the running code and wants to show you where the error became apparent. But it can't find this source file to show it, probably because it is in a library
[10:18:50] <NicolasRaoul> anyway, have a look at the stack trace to investigate where in your code the problem is
[10:19:31] <NicolasRaoul> I guess it compiles, but does not run far before encountering a bug
[10:20:14] <indietrash> there is no problem in the code
[10:20:36] <indietrash> there are one million errors in the urlclassloader$1.run though
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[10:53:06] <durre> I'm having some trouble with ant and spaces in the path. <property name="workspace" value="C:\\eclipse galileo\\workspaces\\myspace\\"/> ... it seems to chop it up at the space. any ideas? changing to / instead of \\ didnt work
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[11:16:28] <private_meta> Hi
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[11:19:52] <private_meta> I've got a problem, I hope you can help: I wanted to install the Eclipse Parallel Tools Platform. The currently working version of PTP requires me to use Ganymede with CDT. I've installed it, but when I try to install PTP from either the zip master archive or the update site, it gives me the following error which I can't really do anything with (and google didn't help either): http://nopaste.info/8522346a50.html - Anyone w
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[12:17:12] <private_meta> OK, this is rather screwed up. I wanted to install the Remote Systems Explorer on Ganymede, it told me it can't install because of dependencies. It installed anyway, now I can't uninstall because of missing dependencies... WTF?
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[12:19:42] <kaprasanna> In my plug-in I set a marker on a specific line and jump to the line using IDE.openEditor(page, marker); By default the line gets highlighted in blue. I want it to be orange. How can I do that? Thanks.
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[12:23:28] <shahbazi> hi all
[12:23:47] <shahbazi> im trying to change the tab character size from to 3
[12:23:58] <shahbazi> but it does not work in eclipse
[12:24:10] <shahbazi> does enyone know how can i do it?
[12:24:26] <FauxFaux> That's funny, it works on my machine.
[12:26:42] <FauxFaux> Wait, no it doesn't. :|
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[12:30:49] <shahbazi> is anyone there has the same problem?
[12:31:39] <private_meta> If you mean the "Displayed Tab Width", I can change it, but it's in Ganymede
[12:32:48] <shahbazi> i have ganymede too
[12:32:56] <shahbazi> but it does not work
[12:33:13] <shahbazi> how do u change it?
[12:33:53] <private_meta> Window -> Preferences -> General -> Editors -> Text Editors -> Displayed tab width -> change -> Apply/OK
[12:37:38] <shahbazi> i did it
[12:37:43] <shahbazi> but didnt work
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[12:58:00] <erdal> anyone know how to save back an emf model instance?
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[13:19:45] <paulweb515> Shapeshifter: open a new text editor and type ... what's the tab size it uses?
[13:19:54] <paulweb515> sorry, Shapeshifter
[13:20:03] <paulweb515> shahbazi
[13:20:15] <paulweb515> erdal: save it to an .xmi file?
[13:20:41] <erdal> paulweb515: thanks, i found an article on this: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ecemf1/
[13:22:12] <erdal> paulweb515: but, when saving back, the wrong root tag is generated (emf uses root tag type)
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[13:22:23] <erdal> do you know what options to use for this?
[13:25:24] <paulweb515> erdal: no, I have code looks surprisingly similar to what's on that web site :-)
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[13:26:53] <private_meta> paulweb515: any idea about my problem? one about 2 hours ago and one about 1 hour ago?
[13:27:00] <private_meta> paulweb515: if you still have it in your logs
[13:27:04] <erdal> if my xml doc root is "myRoot" and the xsd has a root tag type "MyRootType", then, saving back the emf model will generate an xml doc whose root tag is <ns:MyRootType>... instead of <myRoot>...
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[13:28:52] <paulweb515> private_meta: what did you start with?  Eclipse +CDT from where?
[13:29:46] <private_meta> paulweb515: once i tried CDT, once I tried classic, both 64 bit
[13:30:13] <private_meta> both resulted in the same error, when trying to install PTP or Remote Systems Explorer, althought look for the second problem with Systems explorer
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[13:38:13] <paulweb515> private_meta: but both as zips from eclipse.org?
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[13:39:39] <private_meta> paulweb515: yes, both from eclipse.org, both the ganymede version
[13:41:21] <paulweb515> private_meta: and when you want to install RSE, you go to the ganymede update site?
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[13:57:40] <private_meta> paulweb515: yes, I went to the Ganymede Update Site for that
[13:59:22] <paulweb515> private_meta: that's the one that usually works ... I wouldn't have thought the 64 bit mattered.
[13:59:41] <paulweb515> I can try eclipse classic SDK and update TM/RSE through Ganymede
[13:59:44] <private_meta> paulweb515: I don't know if it matters, I haven't tried 32 bit as I have 64bit java installed
[13:59:55] <paulweb515> right, I'll try 32 bit now
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[14:15:19] <paulweb515> private_meta: when you want to install RSE, which features do you pick from the update site?
[14:15:45] <paulweb515> private_meta: just RSE End-User Runtime and The TM Terminal?  Service Discovery as well?
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[14:17:27] <private_meta> paulweb515: the End-User Runtime only
[14:17:28] <paulweb515> private_meta: I grabbed the bottom 4 features in the Remote category: The 3 above plus RSE User Actions
[14:17:48] <paulweb515> They installed into my 3.4.2 eclipse, which I unzipped in /opt/local/tmp
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[14:19:10] <private_meta> paulweb515: so you installed the target management as well?
[14:19:44] <paulweb515> private_meta: yes, that last Target Management feature gives you a terminal that you could use if you were SSHing, for example
[14:20:12] <private_meta> paulweb515: well, if i try to install either one of the remote systems explorer plugins I get the same unsatisified dependency error
[14:21:03] <paulweb515> private_meta: did you get a zip and unzip it to get your eclipse?  I use eclipse-SDK-3.4.2-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[14:21:15] <paulweb515> private_meta: you would probably have an x86_64 in there
[14:21:58] <private_meta> eclipse-SDK-3.4-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
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[14:22:23] <paulweb515> private_meta: that looks correct
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[14:22:55] <private_meta> Although it seems to be 3.4.0, not 3.4.2
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[14:23:54] <elyezer> to use TemplateStore must I create some ContextType ?
[14:24:12] <paulweb515> oh ... maybe the ganymede features depend on 3.4.2 explicitly
[14:24:50] <paulweb515> private_meta: Not that I'm a big fan of downloading more stuff, by you can try using the Eclipse Update site to update your 3.4.0 to 3.4.2
[14:24:54] <private_meta> That dawned on my right now as well, I'm downloading 3.4.2. I took the first download directly on the ganymede page. Why it was 3.4.0 I have NO idea
[14:24:56] <paulweb515> private_meta: restart and then try
[14:25:16] <paulweb515> private_meta: or get the clean 3.4.2 as well (that limits the variables :-)
[14:25:19] <private_meta> no, I want a clean eclipse to try again, not a screwed up version I've updated to death
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[14:25:55] <private_meta> I'm up to 6 different eclipse versions on my hard disk already >_>
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[14:27:01] <private_meta> paulweb515: It will take about 20-30 minutes to download it and update the CDT/RSE Features, I'll hilight you once I've done that and know more
[14:27:33] <paulweb515> private_meta: OK, sure
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[14:31:39] <_WOPR_> I have a weird problem when I want to make a screenshot of my RCP application after some time. Can someone pleas take a look at this?
[14:31:52] <_WOPR_> http:?/?/?i36.tinypic.com/?2r7ngo8.png
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[14:34:45] <paulweb515> _WOPR_: that URL is not valid
[14:34:49] <MrStein> Hi! How can I set cmd line parameter for ant when running ant task from Eclipse v3.4.x ? I right click a an ant build file and select Run As /Ant Build.  A build gives some error and I want to debug it.
[14:35:04] <private_meta> paulweb515: I can load it on my Browser
[14:35:10] <private_meta> s/on/in/
[14:35:26] <MrStein> oops, I solved it... ;-) I least I think so...
[14:35:58] <paulweb515> private_meta: it has some embedded chars that are being exposed (before and after the '/')
[14:36:16] <_WOPR_> try this one: http://i36.tinypic.com/2r7ngo8.png
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[14:36:30] <paulweb515> _WOPR_: all I see is a "very" black images, unreadable, with part in a box :-)
[14:36:32] <private_meta> oh... well, my irssi didn't see that
[14:36:47] <private_meta> paulweb515: yeah, that's his problem, he can't take screenshots ;)
[14:36:55] <_WOPR_> right
[14:37:20] <_WOPR_> when i close my app, screenshots work again
[14:37:27] <paulweb515> _WOPR_: are you using eclipse to take your screenshot?
[14:37:34] <paulweb515> _WOPR_: oh, OK
[14:37:42] <_WOPR_> no. i simply use the print key
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[14:37:46] <paulweb515> _WOPR_: what version of eclipse/window manager system are you using?
[14:38:00] <_WOPR_> i also can not take a screenshot from anything else in windows
[14:38:10] <_WOPR_> I use Eclipse 3.4
[14:38:51] <_WOPR_> I have isolated the problem to an editor
[14:39:02] <_WOPR_> when I open it (it is a MultiPageEditorPart
[14:39:07] <paulweb515> _WOPR_: that editor must be doing something crazy to effect the screen-shot code that windows supplies
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[14:54:39] <_WOPR_> sorry, I had to answer the phone
[14:55:07] <_WOPR_> paulweb515: this editor is driving me crazy
[14:55:19] <gein> Here's an Equinox/OSGi question: I'm installing a bundle using context.install(myBundle) and the bundle goes into INSTALLED state. It has no dependencies what so ever, why doesn't it go into the RESOLVED state?
[14:56:54] <_WOPR_> I also have some painting issues in this editor. The architecture looks like this: http://i35.tinypic.com/xbd442.png
[14:57:52] <_WOPR_> I draw some lines on the GC of the background image. When I switch between the tabs the background is not painted again.
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[15:00:44] <private_meta> paulweb515: hmpf, error is gone. It would've been nice to get a better error description initially than that dependency error by equinox :/
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[15:07:26] <paulweb515> private_meta: on 3.5 they added a preliminary feature that takes the useless error message and tries to give a better explanation ... in 3.6 it is improving (i.e. it will actually tell you which feature is causing the failure :-)
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[15:08:01] <private_meta> paulweb515: Yeah, interesting, now PTP just has to be compatible with 3.5
[15:08:15] <private_meta> I guess when 3.6 comes out PTP finally is going to be compatible with 3.5
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[15:09:09] <private_meta> Kinda like Fedora and nVidia... CUDA/CELL was compatible with Fedora 9 but not 10 when 11 came out, now it's compatible with 10 but not 11 and 12 comes out soo
[15:09:12] <private_meta> +n
[15:09:18] <private_meta> well, thanks for the help
[15:10:13] <paulweb515> private_meta: I'm glad you've got something working
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[15:10:40] <private_meta> paulweb515: I've got it installed, now I've got to look if ti works
[15:11:06] <private_meta> Sadly that's not the same thing most of the time
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[15:11:17] <kaprasanna> Hi all.. In my plug-in I set a marker on a specific line and jump to the line using IDE.openEditor(page, marker); By default the line gets highlighted in blue. I want it to be orange. How can I do that? Thanks.
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[15:46:26] <paulweb515> kaprasanna: that's might be controlled by Preferences>General>Editors>Text Editors* if anywhere
[15:48:43] <kaprasanna> paulweb515 : i thought I'll need to set specific color's highlight on that line programatically.. Won't I?
[15:49:17] <paulweb515> kaprasanna: I'm not that familiar with the marker preferences ... do they even allow colour changes?
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[15:51:32] <kaprasanna> paulweb515 : My web searches have shown you need to use more extension points to achieve this. like this one : http://tinyurl.com/yertp6a But I wanted to know how exactly is this done. I'll open a topic in the newsgroup.
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[16:22:52] <gein> Has anyone experienced strange behaviour from the Bundle.getState() while doing manually installs from the BundleContext?
[16:23:50] <gein> I have a BundleListener that listens to changes, will it reports INSTALLED, RESOLVED for bundle (as expected) while installing it, the actual Bundle.getState() says STARTING, STARTING
[16:23:57] <gein> s/will/while
[16:24:32] <gein> I haven't even touched to Bundle.start() method.
[16:25:14] <gein> s/to/the (what's wrong with me today)
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[16:28:26] <paulweb515> gein: is it a plugin (use plugin.xml, have the autostart or lazy start set in the MANIFEST)?
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[16:35:12] <elyezer> where can I find the template.xml definition? I'm in doubt about how to write a file to import using TemplateStore
[16:35:30] <masak> with Eclipse 3.5, I no longer have the Delete button bound to anything. it doesn't remove the character after the cursor in text editors, and it doesn't pop up a "Do you want to delete this file?" dialog in the Package Explorer. I'm on Mac OS X. is this known?
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[16:36:28] <elyezer> masak: are you new in Mac?
[16:36:50] <paulweb515> masak: or are you on one of the new cocoa builds?  32? 64?
[16:37:04] <masak> paulweb515: how do I find out?
[16:37:26] <masak> elyezer: no, not very. been using it for three years straight, and on and off before that.
[16:37:27] <paulweb515> masak: well, what did you download?
[16:37:44] <elyezer> masak: do you have a "fn" button in your keyboard?
[16:38:00] <masak> paulweb515: Eclipse 3.5 for RCP developers. Build id: 20090619-0625
[16:38:13] <elyezer> try to hold it when pressing "delete" button
[16:38:50] <masak> elyezer: there is one on the portable's keyboard. but not on the keyboard I'm typing on. :) I have one plugged in.
[16:39:07] <elyezer> masak: you have to hold it
[16:39:10] <paulweb515> masak: and what did the filename have in it?  i.e. eclipse-SDK-3.4.2-linux-gtk.tar.gz tells me it's a linux gtk x86 install
[16:39:14] <masak> holding down 'fn' on one keyboard and 'Delete' on the other has no effect.
[16:39:23] <elyezer> masak: or configure you new keyboard properly
[16:39:34] <elyezer> masak: and in the portable one?
[16:39:36] <masak> elyezer: this has worked with previous versions of Eclipse.
[16:39:47] <masak> elyezer: the portable has no Delete button. only Backspace.
[16:40:01] <elyezer> masak: strange... in my case (macbook) ihave to hold it to delete a file
[16:40:53] <masak> paulweb515: it's a while ago, and I didn't retain the .tar.gz file... I'll see if I can refresh my mind by going to the Downlaod page.
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[16:49:02] <masak> I'm pretty sure it was eclipse-rcp-galileo-SR1-macosx-cocoa.tar.gz
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[16:50:10] <paulweb515> masak: OK
[16:50:25] <paulweb515> SR1 came online about 2 weeks ago
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[16:50:49] <paulweb515> but even if you got the 3.5 version maxosx-cocoa tells me what i wanted to know
[16:51:09] <masak> right. the corresponding at that time.
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[16:52:44] <Kudd_> I dont see the difference between eclipse 3.5.1 and galileo
[16:52:54] <Kudd_> galileo isn't the codename of eclipse 3.5?
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[17:01:58] <ezeki3l> i'm using 3.3.2 on osx
[17:02:06] <ezeki3l> cause 3.5 is broken
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[17:10:13] <deever> hi
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[17:10:46] <deever> where do i get org.eclipse.ltk.core.refactoring from?
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[17:12:08] <magnet_> deever, what do you mean, "get it"? It's a part of most eclipse distributions, including Eclipse Classic
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[17:15:04] <deever> magnet: forget about it...i needed to select an older version of PDT and now it's working
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[17:16:10] <paulweb515> Kudd_: The eclipse project 3.5 was part of Galileo, 3.5.1 was part of Galileo SR1
[17:16:33] <Kudd_> alreet
[17:16:34] <paulweb515> Kudd_: for example, CDT 6.0 was part of Galileo, CDT 6.0.1 is part of Galileo SR1
[17:16:34] <Kudd_> thanks
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[17:16:46] <Kudd_> and what is galileo so
[17:16:59] <Kudd_> it's the whole thing, with eclipse, cdt, etc ?.
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[17:21:16] <ezeki3l> it's the release codename, Kudd_
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[17:21:28] <Kudd_> as i said yeah
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[17:52:42] <dot> hi! I have some problem with Eclipse CDT + Qt... Just when I try to open "C/C++ Make Project" item in Project Properties window, I get an error message like that: Could Not Accept Changes / The currently displayed page contains invalid values.
[17:52:54] <dot> using Eclipse Build id: 20090920-1017 / Qt 4.4.3...
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[17:53:09] <dot> Has anyone faced this problem before ?
[17:53:33] <dot> Recreating workspace/project does not help
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[18:11:32] <Kira> How do I force Galileo to refresh an update site?
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[18:24:38] <private_meta> Kira: doesn't restartig eclipse work?
[18:25:05] <Kira> private_meta: takes too long. :P
[18:25:49] <Kira> And Native proxy settings seem to do nothing in Mac OS X 10.6
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[18:29:43] <private_meta> Kira: how about going to your available software sites and du a disable/enable
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[18:31:00] <Kira> private_meta: nope, that's not enough to refresh.
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[18:32:26] <frog> hi, sorry for beeong stupid, but how can i include an excluded file to project again?
[18:32:31] <frog> *beeing
[18:33:08] <private_meta> frog: Java?
[18:33:16] <frog> private_meta: c
[18:34:09] <private_meta> frog: in the context menu on the file that's excluded there should be a "Exclude from build path" on the bottom of the drop down (last section at least) and there you have to uncheck the Debug/Release options
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[18:35:56] <private_meta> Kira: hmm... it's possible that the system reloads the files if you have a package from the update site installed and you go for "Check Updates", but I'm not sure
[18:36:32] <Kira> nope, Check for Updates immediately uses the cache.
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[18:38:20] <private_meta> frog: did it work?
[18:38:21] <frog> private_meta: mhmm.. i only have "exclude from build" which is inactive. i also have "Bulid configurations" where i can see set active debug/release, but no matter whet is checked, the file is still beeing excluded
[18:38:37] <private_meta> hmm
[18:39:19] <Kira> It's rather puzzling because it used to be possible in Ganymede. It's a rather useful feature because the connection to most update sites is pretty fickle (particularly when trying to access from China), so it's almost unavoidable to do a few refreshes before Eclipse successfully fetches all the update site information that I want.
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[18:41:28] <private_meta> frog: if you select the file you excluded it SHOULD show the "Exclude From Build" in the context menu, it shouldn't be grayed out, that's peculiar. So is there another "Exclude from Build" that puts you into an openend window where you can chose from which build to exclude? is that what you said before? you'd have to uncheck both and say ok
[18:42:01] <private_meta> Kira: hmm, another thing: if you cancel updating the update page it's broken :/
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[18:44:19] <Kira> private_meta: ya the update manager has always been broken in one way or another, for as far back as I have been using Eclipse. I thought the update manager would be finally overhauled and reasonably fixed in Galileo, but alas, I'm disappointed again.
[18:44:51] <Kira> I'm going to sleep.
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[18:45:49] <private_meta> Kira: well, they said there should be another "reform" in 3.6, but who knows what they break again
[18:45:52] <private_meta> Kira: gn8
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[18:46:45] <ciss2> hi, my question concerns aptana studio, but since i didn't have any luck googling or trying the aptana channel i was hoping you might be able to help ...
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[18:47:44] <ciss2> i installed aptana studio on osx 10.5.8. when i look in Window, there's no "Preferences ..." entry, and i can't find it anywhere else
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[18:50:09] <frog> private_meta: well, i cant see any "exlcude from build
[18:50:09] <frog> " in my contaex menu
[18:50:13] <frog> private_meta: well, i cant see any "exlcude from build" in my context menu
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[18:51:25] <ciss2> is there another way to open an unfiltered preferences panel?
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[18:58:17] <stuckey> Hello
[18:58:37] <stuckey> To get a workspace for a new java program, do I just click file>new>java project?
[18:58:50] <NoobFukaire> no the workspace is a larger concept than a project
[18:59:02] <NoobFukaire> a workspace contains all the projects you need for a given product or whatever
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[18:59:12] <stuckey> hmm... okay, well, how do I get started writing a java program in eclipse?
[18:59:13] <NoobFukaire> To get a new workspace, you have to restart eclipse I believe
[18:59:20] <NoobFukaire> and choose a different directory
[18:59:41] <NoobFukaire> stuckey: sounds like you want to create a project like you described
[18:59:55] <NoobFukaire> If you have eclipse running, the current workspace should suffice (as long as you know where it's at on the filesystem)
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[19:00:56] <stuckey> Yes
[19:00:56] <stuckey> So I do file>new>project then Java Project?
[19:01:03] <stuckey> But I don't have anywhere to type... it's just grey
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[19:01:50] <NoobFukaire> you mean "project name:" is grey?
[19:02:54] <stuckey> Let me take a screenshot
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[19:06:52] <rhk> ack! "an internal error occurred while displaying an internal error"
[19:08:28] <stuckey> NoobFukaire: This is what I see now: http://www.jhstuckey.com/eclipse.jpg
[19:08:43] <NoobFukaire> ??
[19:08:58] <NoobFukaire> Did you do file>new>project?
[19:09:09] <stuckey> NoobFukaire: okay i can do that... then what?
[19:09:18] <NoobFukaire> you create your java project
[19:09:30] <stuckey> So I give it a name... then hit Finnish?
[19:09:34] <NoobFukaire> and you'll get an tree on your project navigator
[19:09:35] <NoobFukaire> yep
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[19:10:03] <stuckey> I hit next and nothing happens... the button depresses and depresses again when I move over it but nothing else happens
[19:10:07] <stuckey> and I can't click finnish or cancel
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[19:16:36] <stuckey> Is there something I'm missing here or is this a bug?
[19:17:20] <rcjsuen> stuckey: How ddi you install Eclipse
[19:17:27] <stuckey> Debian
[19:18:40] <rcjsuen> I assume you mean "I used apt-get".
[19:18:54] <stuckey> Correct, Yes.
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[19:20:25] <rcjsuen> stuckey: What version is that anyway
[19:20:30] <rcjsuen> You may want to try the one from eclipse.org instead.
[19:20:43] <stuckey> 3.4.1
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[19:30:11] <stuckey> Are there .debs ?
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[19:31:44] <timothym> nope but you unpack the tar file and run it... no compiling or anything else
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[20:08:26] <stuckey> timothym: which one do I donwload from the website? there are it seems several options
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[20:09:40] <rcjsuen> stuckey: That'd depend on what you want to do.
[20:09:50] <stuckey> rcjsuen: just basic java programming
[20:09:51] <timothym> stuckey: classic is for java development so that's probably appropriate for your needs
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[20:39:35] <stuckey> timothym: I get the same problems with that one as I got with the one I installed from Debian
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[20:54:55] <jottinger> where are the eclipse dependencies located in a public maven repository?
[20:55:29] <jottinger> for example, I need jface resources for 3.4 and 3.5; where would they be? The main maven repo only has 3.3as far as I can tell.
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[20:58:21] <rcjsuen> stuckey: What version of GTK+ do you have
[20:59:09] <stuckey> rcjsuen: how do I check this?
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[20:59:23] <rcjsuen> stuckey: I don't use Debian-based distros, dunno what the command is.
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[21:03:11] <stuckey> rcjsuen: I see lots of stuff about gtk+ ... could you be more specific?
[21:03:41] <rcjsuen> stuckey: Not exactly. In Gentoo the package is just called gtk+, I don't know how it's done in Debian.
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[21:09:55] <stuckey> rcjsuen: 2.18.2-1
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[21:10:04] <rcjsuen> could be another 2.18 problem i suppose
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[21:23:53] <rcjsuen> stuckey: Try GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true as an env var and see if that helps.
[21:24:56] <stuckey> That's a little better
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[21:26:17] <rcjsuen> ?
[21:26:50] <stuckey> Mose cliks still don't really work
[21:26:54] <stuckey> *clicks
[21:27:13] <rcjsuen> yeah i've heard of that one
[21:27:17] <rcjsuen> that one's definitely a gtk+ 2.18 problem
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[21:31:37] <stuckey> hmm... well this sucks, I need to use eclipse
[21:33:03] <NoobFukaire> you could use the fox or motif bindings
[21:33:05] <NoobFukaire> *shudders*
[21:33:06] <NoobFukaire> ;)
[21:33:10] <rcjsuen> or downgrade your gtk+
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[21:38:21] <nitind> I'd forgotten about the Fox bindings.
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[21:39:48] <dilton> or use a standard distribution
[21:45:08] <stuckey> Debian isn't standard?
[21:45:09] <rcjsuen> dilton: How do you define "standard"
[21:45:56] <stuckey> I want to make sure I'm not just missing on the way the program works...
[21:46:36] <stuckey> So I launch the program... then what do I have to do to start typing code?
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[21:46:54] <rcjsuen> you make a new Java project
[21:46:57] <rcjsuen> then you make a new class
[21:47:00] <rcjsuen> and type your hello world in there
[21:47:01] <rcjsuen> etc etc
[21:47:17] <nitind> Assuming you mean Java source code.
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[21:47:45] <stuckey> how do I make anew class?
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[21:49:06] <rcjsuen> http://eclipsetutorial.sourceforge.net/
[21:50:00] <dilton> rcjsuen: personally I define it as Ubuntu 9.04
[21:50:26] <rcjsuen> dilton: When 9.10 comes out would you redefine it as 9.10?
[21:50:49] <dilton> stuckey: which Debian? I'll try it tonight in a VM out of curiosity
[21:51:24] <stuckey> dilton: sid
[21:51:38] <stuckey> I don't have a way to play those .swf tutorial files, unfortunately.
[21:52:19] <dilton> rcjsuen: kidding aside I'd go to eclipse.org and find out what is supported
[21:53:21] <rcjsuen> I believe 9.04 LTS has been added to the list for 3.6 so I guess that is technically correct.
[21:53:23] <dilton> stuckey: this? ==> http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/
[21:53:35] <stuckey> dilton: yes\
[21:53:57] <dilton> stuckey: so the word "unstable" is in that link
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[21:54:06] <stuckey> Yes, it's unstable
[21:54:16] <stuckey> But generally just as stable as testing
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[22:18:58] <NoobFukaire> I have a scripting service defined in one bundle, but it's used in another bundle
[22:19:04] <NoobFukaire> The second bundle has all the scripts, etc
[22:19:26] <NoobFukaire> are there any utilities available that make accessing cross bundle resources easier?
[22:21:15] <nitind> You mean other than going the usual route with the other bundle's symbolic name?
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[22:28:51] <NoobFukaire> yeah, that's what I'm currently doing
[22:28:51] <NoobFukaire> I'm thinking about some kind of "binder" for different bundles
[22:28:53] <NoobFukaire> so that way you can pool a set of related ones together and when you request a resource, the utility will find a given resource
[22:28:56] <NoobFukaire> across bundles
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[22:30:50] <dilton> when I click on http://www.eclipse.org/downloads and keep reloading the page I get different sometimes wacky page views
[22:32:33] <nitind> dilton:  Related to ~291530 ?
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[22:33:03] <nitind> dilton:  Related to ~291530 ?
[22:33:07] <Arbalest> Bug 291530 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=291530 - Community / Website / unspecified - PC / Windows XP - NEW / normal / - Assignee: phoenix.ui-inbox - corrupt pages often display
[22:33:10] <dilton> nitind: i dunno
[22:33:50] <dilton> you guys are fast I was about to go searching :)
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[23:18:21] <asimismo> I can start my Tomcat instance from the Servers view using WTP but it doesn't recognize any of projects as being eligible to deploy, even the one created using the Dynamic Web Project wizard. Any thoughts?
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[23:21:35] <dilton> asimismo: when I do Tomcat stuff I right-click on the JSP I want to test, then Run as or Debug as, the wizard pops up to deploy it and starts the server if it was not running
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[23:25:55] <asimismo> dilton: When I right click I don't get a Run/Run on Server... menu option, though...
[23:26:18] <asimismo> And when try to add resources from the Servers view it says I don't have anything eligible.
[23:27:08] <dilton> asimismo: meant right-click in the Package Explorer view
[23:27:25] <nitind> asimismo: Are the dynamic web and Java facets on the project version numbers supported by that Tomcat instance?
[23:27:58] <asimismo> Right, that's where I don't get the Run on Server menu options. The other way I know to deploy is via the Servers view and that doesn't work either.
[23:29:33] <asimismo> So, I first was trying to deploy a legacy m2eclipse-based project. Wasn't working, so I decided to try an empty project generated from the Dynamic Web Project wizard--I would have thought the latter was correctly configured when it was created?
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[23:30:20] <asimismo> It's a brand new Tomcat 6 install. And I can start Tomcat from the Servers view, so I know it's functioning.
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[23:41:22] <stuckey> I'm writing an example program in eclipse... and when I click run it gives me an error. It says section does not contain an applet.
[23:41:59] <stuckey> I see little red x's next to many lines... Graphics program cannot be resolved to type//the import amc cannot be resolved
[23:42:02] <stuckey> what's all of this?
[23:42:14] <asimismo> Hmmm. Well, I add to add the Dynamic Web Module facet via the Properties menu. But I created it as a Dynamic Web Project, so that seems mighty strange to me...
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[23:44:57] <private_meta> heya... I've tried installing SubClipse on my Eclipse Galileo Installation, I also have Tortoise SVN Clients installed (32b, 64b) on Windows 7, but the Properties don't view SVN as a possiblity/perspective. ANy idea what might be the problem?
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[23:48:10] <stuckey> anyone?
[23:48:56] <private_meta> stuckey: what kind of example program do you want to write?
[23:48:57] <nitind> stuckey: It's what it says, it has no idea where those things are.  What are they?
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[23:49:41] <stuckey> http://codepad.org/ob88QHIn
[23:49:44] <stuckey> that's what I wrote
[23:49:45] <nitind> asimismo: The empty project should work, assuming the facet configuration is compatible.
[23:49:56] <stuckey> nitind: I don't know, I just started with java
[23:50:19] <nitind> stuckey: I'm not sure you've done all of the conversions, then.  It has to have a module core nature on it.
[23:50:45] <nitind> stuckey: No typos?  Even "grpahics"?
[23:50:52] <stuckey> It's exactly what the book says... I typed it in exactly like it is in the book...
[23:51:09] <nitind> stuckey: Are the library jars on the project's Java Build Path?
[23:51:29] <stuckey> nitind: how do I do this?
[23:51:40] <private_meta> ok, then they aren't
[23:51:51] <stuckey> This must be why stanford uses a special build to teach java...
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[23:52:02] <private_meta> stuckey: do you have the jar file for acm?
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[23:52:15] <stuckey> private_meta: I don't think so... I just installed eclipse
[23:52:31] <private_meta> stuckey: does it underline the "import acm..." stuff?
[23:52:46] <stuckey> It underlines acm with red lines
[23:52:59] <private_meta> ok, then you don't have the fitting library for it
[23:53:10] <private_meta> so if you made it after the book, does the book say anything about where to find that library?
[23:53:13] <private_meta> a jar-file?
[23:53:20] <stuckey> Nope
[23:53:30] <private_meta> Does it tell you which library it's been using?
[23:53:33] <stuckey> They said it was boilderplate stuff...
[23:53:47] <stuckey> import acm.graphics.*;
[23:53:55] <stuckey> import acm.program.*;
[23:53:56] <stuckey> those two
[23:54:35] <nitind> stuckey: It can't find the classes in those packages.  You need to find the jar file containing them first, and then make sure you tell the Java Project where the jar is.
[23:54:57] <stuckey> I'm totally lost here...
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[23:56:02] <private_meta> ok, i found your library
[23:56:18] <nitind> stuckey: If you were supplied with software to use, or a version of Eclipse to start with, use that.
[23:56:30] <private_meta> stuckey: download this file http://jtf.acm.org/acm.jar and put it into your project, either a folder like "lib" or into the project root
[23:56:58] <stuckey> nitind: they only have versions for windows and mac
[23:56:59] <private_meta> stuckey: then right click onto the .jar file and say "add to build path"
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[23:58:01] <stuckey> private_meta: I don't have right click in my window manager
[23:58:10] <private_meta> what?
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[23:58:29] <stuckey> Oh, in eclipse you mean
[23:58:51] <private_meta> sure
[23:58:56] <private_meta> but first copy it into your project folder
[23:59:13] <private_meta> in the same folder where you see the "src" folder, either there or create a folder "lib" and put it there, it's more neat7clean
[23:59:23] <stuckey> Done
[23:59:30] <stuckey> no more x by the two lines
[23:59:32] <private_meta> After you've done that, right click on your project and refresh it
[23:59:38] <private_meta> ah, ok, fast ;)
[23:59:48] <private_meta> ok, then the library has been added
[23:59:58] <stuckey> how do i fix the other red x?
[23:59:59] <private_meta> Try compiling or running it again

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