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[00:49:26] <crouton> does the eclipse download come with openjdk or sun's jdk?
[00:51:18] <NoobFukaire> I don't believe so
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[01:05:50] <crouton> what?
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[01:07:56] <crouton> oh it comes with nothing
[01:08:55] <crouton> i'm getting a message about no fonts found
[01:09:12] <crouton> in eclipse when i try to run my project
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[01:14:23] <NoobFukaire> crouton: OS?
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[01:15:14] <crouton> archlinux
[01:15:27] <crouton> it's also using openjdk6
[01:16:15] <crouton> how can eclipse come with no jdk
[01:19:49] <NoobFukaire> how would they knew which one you want to use?
[01:21:44] <crouton> oh right
[01:21:52] <crouton> it comes with a JRE? right?
[01:22:45] <crouton> anyway
[01:23:07] <crouton> i'm gonna try removing the eclipse package in archlinux, which will get rid of openjdk
[01:23:19] <crouton> then reinstall the eclipse i downloaded from eclipse.org
[01:23:28] <crouton> then install sun's jdk
[01:25:04] <crouton> LOL i had eclipse running
[01:25:14] <crouton> how could it have removed it
[01:25:16] <crouton> hahah
[01:28:24] <NoobFukaire> linux will let you remove the files but will keep them in memory until the program exists
[01:28:28] <NoobFukaire> exits
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[01:31:07] <crouton> yea.. but i thought at least something would be in use so it would say it can't remove it you know?
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[01:37:42] <NoobFukaire> crouton: this isn't windows ;)
[01:38:33] <crouton> man
[01:38:39] <crouton> i can't stand this
[01:39:35] <stibotrac> if there's an exclusive lock on something, you still won't be able to delete it
[01:39:54] <crouton> ok i need some quick advice
[01:40:06] <crouton> forget it
[01:40:47] <stibotrac> okay
[01:42:37] <crouton> haha i don't trust my dad behind the wheel
[01:42:51] <crouton> but i've got too much work to do
[01:43:28] <crouton> so i can't drive them to their "get together"
[01:43:45] <crouton> but then if something happens, sigh..
[01:44:30] <crouton> anyway, i need the jdk now
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[02:03:59] <crouton> alrigth i've got the jdk installed
[02:04:05] <crouton> but eclipse can't find it
[02:04:26] <crouton> nor can i run "java" from the commandline from just any folder
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[02:12:46] <freeone3000> I'm getting an error saying that there was a network problem during update when attempting to contact a repository. It works just fine when contacting it through HTTP. What could be up?
[02:14:52] <crouton> omg eclipse is starting
[02:14:55] <crouton> omgomgomgogm
[02:16:10] <crouton> the program works!!!
[02:16:15] <crouton> the one i wrote i mean
[02:16:23] <crouton> i mena the one i downloaded
[02:16:56] <crouton> my eyes... they're swelling up... with tear juice
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[02:31:02] <urandom> I'm having this strange problem with clicking buttons in eclipse with the mouse, is there some kind of known issue that covers this? (3.5.1 on linux)
[02:32:14] <urandom> it works if I move the mouse ever so slightly while holding down the button
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[02:52:24] <urandom> this channel is strangely quiet for having so many people
[03:00:40] <FauxFaux> that's a very mature way to get attention.
[03:00:58] <FauxFaux> I remember some issue with gtk basically being shit, but I'm too lazy to look it up on the bugtracker for you.
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[03:01:43] <urandom> FauxFaux: actually, it was an observation, and not one that I would have though offensive or immature
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[03:12:05] <mhuot_> Why does eclipse use java?
[03:12:31] <FauxFaux> What?
[03:12:33] <crouton> ...
[03:12:49] <mhuot_> Java is so slow
[03:12:55] <NoobFukaire> lol
[03:13:05] <NoobFukaire> Java is pretty fast anymore
[03:13:10] <NoobFukaire> at least Sun's implementation is
[03:13:36] <NoobFukaire> very comparable to native code on x86 platforms in more situations, some times faster and sometimes slower
[03:14:24] <mhuot_> Everyone always says that it is slow though
[03:14:47] <FauxFaux> That's because of people like you.
[03:14:59] <mhuot_> Really?
[03:15:04] <mhuot_> Wow
[03:15:11] <FauxFaux> (I'm betting less than five minutes before he finds the alioth benchmarks.)
[03:15:51] <NoobFukaire> mhuot_: most people are fucking morons, so either ignore the hype or join the crowd
[03:16:19] <urandom> mhuot_: what platform are you using, apprently gtk is shit
[03:16:34] <mhuot_> urandom: debian
[03:16:38] <NoobFukaire> gtk now that IS slow
[03:16:41] <FauxFaux> It is, but that's not really what I meant.
[03:16:53] <FauxFaux> /o\ stop encouraging them.
[03:17:10] <mhuot_> I like gtk
[03:17:18] <NoobFukaire> I like gtk as well but it's no speed demon
[03:17:22] <FauxFaux> I can't even remember if the bug I was referring to was fixed in swt or gtk.
[03:17:36] <mhuot_> swt is slow
[03:17:45] <NoobFukaire> swt is a widget binding
[03:17:51] <mhuot_> ?
[03:17:53] <NoobFukaire> have you done a lot of tests creating and destroying widgets or what
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[03:18:03] <FauxFaux> swt doesn't do anything, so it's kind of hard for it to be slow.
[03:18:32] <NoobFukaire> but anyway, you proved my earlier point and joined the crowd. congrats!
[03:18:46] <mhuot_> NoobFukaire: Just a n00b
[03:18:50] <mhuot_> Me that is
[03:19:00] <NoobFukaire> yeah, I've known that for quite a while
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[03:35:47] <crouton> is there something i can run in eclipse that'll tell me what libraries i need and what i don't need to run a given .java file?
[03:36:51] <urandom> huh, I think this is it -- https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=291257
[03:40:01] <NoobFukaire> crouton: don't think so, although you can see what packages aren't on the classpath
[03:45:30] <crouton> ok
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[06:56:07] <Rich_Morin> How do I tell Eclipse that a project wants Java 1.6?
[06:56:23] <NoobFukaire> in the preferences->java compiler settings I think
[06:57:17] <Rich_Morin> not that I can see...
[06:58:01] <Rich_Morin> ok, tnx
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[09:40:07] <latexknight> question: how do I run \ execute Perl script from eclipse? i've installed EPIC plugin
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[10:59:42] <thana> hello again :)
[10:59:54] <thana> does somebody use maven in RCP projects?
[11:00:11] <thana> it seems that really every rcp-maven-repo ist very outdated :-/
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[11:03:38] <danlucraft> anyone know what happened to the eclipse platform Javadocs? They used to be at eclipse.org/documentation, but there's some funky help viewer there now.....
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[11:43:42] <danlucraft> OK found them. You have to go to this url: http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/topic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/overview-summary.html and disable javascript
[11:43:54] <danlucraft> well, the other way round actually
[11:44:08] <danlucraft> ok, can get back to work now :)
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[12:31:12] <swente> writing an eclipse-plugin.. what is the appropiate way to add a jar at runtime? [as when e.g. selecting a jdbc-driver in a wizard, and using that afterwards].
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[13:37:19] <scootley> How do I update from 3.4.2 to 3.5?  Can it be done from within Eclipse?  The http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_upgrade_Eclipse%3F page seems to say so, but I don't get how to do it, and have always just re-installed in the past (which I would rather not do)
[13:38:00] <scootley> i'm not sure if this channel's topic is relevant to my issue or not
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[13:57:09] <scootley> it seems as if it cannot be done from within Eclipse, contrary to that FAQ
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[14:29:24] <Razec> Hi folks
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[14:44:10] <m41n1> hi guys
[14:44:19] <m41n1> i am running eclipse ctp
[14:44:21] <m41n1> cdt
[14:44:28] <m41n1> but i am unable to set any breakpoint
[14:45:07] <m41n1> it says No source file named <filename>
[14:45:26] <m41n1> where <filename> is the name of the file i am trying to set the breakpoint it
[14:45:27] <m41n1> in
[14:45:43] <m41n1> i am copiling with -g all the sources
[14:45:52] <m41n1> i don't know what else to try
[14:45:54] <m41n1> any clue?
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[15:34:22] <m41n1_> hi guys
[15:34:41] <m41n1_> i am having this problems in eclipse cdt when i try to set a breakpoint "No source file named <file name>"
[15:34:52] <m41n1_> all the sources are compiled with -g
[15:35:01] <m41n1_> and i am not using any particular makefile
[15:35:14] <m41n1_> it's eclipse who is managing
[15:35:25] <m41n1_> i am clueless
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[16:50:58] <ktlr> where can i download and install jseclipse for galileo ?
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[17:47:57] <flashlighter> hey
[17:48:23] <flashlighter> is there anyone familiar with open unified process and epf wiki
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[18:00:32] <flashlighter> ?
[18:09:27] <Rich_Morin> I'm trying to run an example Java program (from "Semantic Web Programming") in Eclipse.  When I click the Run icon, the Console shows the header "<terminated> InferenceExample ...", but doesn't give any error messages. OTOH, I can't find any output.  first question - is it running to completion?
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[18:16:04] <FauxFaux> Running or debugging?
[18:16:29] <FauxFaux> If you run an application that produces no output and exits without exception that'll appear, though, yes.
[18:16:56] <FauxFaux> My question was entirely irrelevant, ignore it.
[18:18:46] <Rich_Morin> Hmmm.  It appears that the file is actually being created (and I can view it using shell commands), but the Package Explorer doesn't show it.  Perhaps there's some other way to view it in Eclipse?
[18:19:09] <FauxFaux> The package explorer doesn't auto refresh, and doesn't show boring resources, probably the first.
[18:20:15] <FauxFaux> (..by default)
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[18:28:31] <Rich_Morin> How can I get the Package Explorer to refresh?
[18:28:54] <flashlighter> f5?
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[18:32:51] <debio264> if I want to design a GUI using the Visual Editor, I should create a Visual Class, right?
[18:33:12] <debio264> I installed the Visual Editor, and that option isn't there in the create menu
[18:33:23] <debio264> but that's what all the documentation says to do
[18:33:48] <debio264> I may have a larger problem because I installed the XML editor, and while it used to be available, it's no longer there
[18:33:59] <debio264> it still shows as installed, and reinstalling doesn't seem to change it
[18:34:07] <debio264> I'll see if it shows up in the settings menus...
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[18:35:50] <Rich_Morin> Nope - "File > Refresh" doesn't make the files appear.
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[20:13:44] <gluxon> Um... once again, is there a 256x256 icon of Eclipse avalible?
[20:14:30] <MrStein> Hi! When I change a servlet source code and save (ctrl-s) the change is published to the running Tomcat server (good) and a second later the Tomcat server is restarted (bad). Any clue how to prevent the restart ?
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[22:03:26] <Rich_Morin> Does the Package Explorer show the directory tree that was imported into the package or some other tree.  If it's the latter, where (in the file system) is it located?
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[22:12:39] <Rich_Morin> No, it seems to be the same directory tree, but some files (eg, ones my program created) are not appearing.  Do I need to do something to tell Eclipse to pay attention to them?
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[22:18:22] <Rich_Morin> nm - now it's working - weird...
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[22:20:37] <prahal> hi swt is shooting itslef in the feet by hiding the gtk, glib, Xlib errors ... struggling to get as much of them as possible ... and is it grabs them in java callbacks when the jvm crashes no messages . As of now I got two suspicious : Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_scrolled_window_add(): cannot add non scrollable widget use gtk_scrolled_window_add_with_viewport() instead
[22:21:11] <prahal> by hardcoding debug to true and removing a lot of weird checks around the log functions
[22:21:17] <prahal> in swt Device
[22:22:52] <prahal> as I know that a scrolled widget is involved int he crash fromt eh gdb backtrace :-/ those are definitily at fault . Would have saved me 20hours of debugging not to have them hidden in the first place
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[22:25:01] <prahal> still as the java callbacks overrides Xlib I still don't know for sure the hidden error message at the pango crasher under the jvm is the same as Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X
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[22:30:56] <prahal> ok Composite.java 295 tells they hide this warnings because there is a warning and it always happens . I bet this means the issue is not this function calling the scrolled widget wrongly or at least with previous version of gtk it worked
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[22:33:21] <prahal> so back to starting point ... I need this error message from crash ... it seems it will takes again quite some time ... hiding warnings and errors from both gtk stack and x stack is very awkwards . I never saw users in hatrezd against developpers because they don't hide those .... why the eck where those hidden in the first place :(
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[23:23:32] <masterjail> anyone here using CDT?
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[23:54:30] <prahal> how could I get an instance class through an abstract one ? for example GtkWidgetClass from Widget in swt ?
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