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[00:39:47] <guyzmo> hi
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[00:41:02] <guyzmo> I'd like to know whether no one knows how could I launch the eclipse GUI panels from within eclim (used from vim)
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[01:08:15] <ecfuser57681> Anybody here actually listening?
[01:08:55] <gr00vy> yeah i'm listening on port 2180
[01:08:58] <gr00vy> :)
[01:09:20] <rcjsuen> I'm reading not listening.
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[01:09:33] <nitind> Yeah, I don't need a text-to-speech box.  Yet.
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[01:13:59] <ecfuser57681> Blah blah. Funny jokes. We all laugh...
[01:14:16] <ecfuser57681> Anyone using ECF?
[01:14:45] <rcjsuen> ecfuser21486: I know people that do.
[01:15:11] <rcjsuen> ecfuser21486: Did you have something in particular to ask about?
[01:15:44] <ecfuser57681> I'm trying to follow along with the docs...
[01:16:21] <ecfuser57681> But the essential "Communications" contextual menu doesn't appear.
[01:16:40] <rcjsuen> what docs are you following
[01:16:50] <ecfuser57681> I'm in the "Communications" perspective, I have a brand new project with a brand new text file...
[01:17:05] <ecfuser57681> The quickstart guide at help.eclipse.org.
[01:17:59] <rcjsuen> ecfuser21486: link?
[01:18:39] <ecfuser57681> http://help.eclipse.org/help33/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.ecf.doc/html/gettingstarted/quickStart.html
[01:19:57] <rcjsuen> can't find a mention of a context menu
[01:20:56] <ecfuser57681> Sorry, on this one...
[01:20:57] <ecfuser57681> http://help.eclipse.org/help33/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.ecf.doc/html/gettingstarted/quickStart.html
[01:21:11] <ecfuser57681> http://help.eclipse.org/help33/topic/org.eclipse.ecf.doc/html/overview/ecf_overview.html
[01:21:25] <ecfuser57681> love that copy and paste. :(
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[01:22:44] <rcjsuen> I must be blind, searching for the word "context" brings me nothing.
[01:22:51] <rcjsuen> And I see no popup menu screenshots on that overview page.
[01:23:07] <ecfuser57681> sorry, it's internal to the feature...
[01:23:36] <ecfuser57681> I thought it was on the quickstart...
[01:24:10] <ecfuser57681> I'm trying to setup collaboration between myself and another dev on a local network...
[01:24:41] <ecfuser57681> I can connect to IRC, obviously, but I haven't found any way to connect to one another.
[01:25:14] <ecfuser57681> The "Collaboration" view reads:
[01:25:27] <rcjsuen> ecfuser21486: What are you trying to connect to the other person for?
[01:25:57] <ecfuser57681> To share editor views.
[01:26:11] <ecfuser57681> Collaborate on code development, etc.
[01:26:22] <nitind> ecfuser57681: Are you both using the same ECF build?
[01:26:38] <rcjsuen> ecfuser21486: you mean edit the same document at the same time?
[01:26:51] <ecfuser57681> nitind Yes, we both just d/l'd the latest and restarted
[01:27:31] <ecfuser57681> rcjsuen: Yes.
[01:27:46] <rcjsuen> ecfuser21486: you should both connect to skype/xmpp
[01:27:56] <ecfuser57681> The Collaboration feature should permit us to relay code changes, AFAIK.
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[01:28:39] <nitind> ecfuser57681: Once you're both connected to the same provider *and* have enabled the workspace for collaboration.
[01:29:19] <ecfuser57681> nitind: how do I "enable the workspace"...? I haven't found that...
[01:29:21] <rcjsuen> nitind: well if you're doing cola to share that _one_ file you don't need to enable it
[01:29:31] <nitind> rcjsuen: Oh?
[01:30:10] <rcjsuen> nitind: yeah you can just have both parties connect to xmpp and then right-click on the file directly
[01:30:27] <ecfuser57681> Well, I can't share jack. Colab tells me to start a colab session by right-clicking on the project / resource and selecting an option that doesn't exist in my context menu.
[01:30:28] <rcjsuen> nitind: for the "generic" provider that i was testing with you with maybe we had to enable it...I don't remember unfortunately
[01:30:28] <nitind> Assuming the editor for that file type supports it as well.
[01:30:36] <rcjsuen> Indeed.
[01:31:20] <rcjsuen> ecfuser21486: you could try connecting with just selecting the two-man icon, but that assumes you have a server running
[01:31:21] <rcjsuen> http://help.eclipse.org/help33/topic/org.eclipse.ecf.doc/html/gettingstarted/images/img13.png
[01:31:31] <rcjsuen> And I don't think our test server is up
[01:32:50] <ecfuser57681> Well, if it's up, it's refusing connections...
[01:33:18] <ecfuser57681> That image also shows a drop-down option for the Protocol, and I get a text box, instead.
[01:35:01] <ecfuser57681> Is there a server component that I'm missing?
[01:35:26] <rcjsuen> Unless you want to start a server...
[01:35:48] <ecfuser57681> More than happy to, if it will help...
[01:36:31] <rcjsuen> what text box were you talking about
[01:36:53] <ecfuser57681> Clicking on the two-man icon...
[01:36:53] <nitind> And what kind of file type, out of curosity?
[01:37:30] <ecfuser57681> The dialog has a field named "Protocol" that is a text field.
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[01:38:00] <ecfuser57681> In the image, it's a drop-down instead, and I can't imagine knowing the options for that field off-hand...
[01:38:03] <nitind> Uh, which ECF build is it?
[01:38:19] <rcjsuen> the two-man icon should give you the image i pointed above AFAIK
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[01:38:57] <ecfuser57681> 3.0.0
[01:39:06] <rcjsuen> I don't remember changing that code.
[01:39:24] <ecfuser57681> It does, kinda, except the "Protocol" field is a text field.
[01:40:00] <nitind> rcjsuen: Is there some trick to easily using downloaded repositories like the new ECF daily that I don't know?  I miss being able to just unzip and go.
[01:40:02] <ecfuser57681> The build date is 20090916
[01:40:27] <ecfuser57681> srsly
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[01:41:24] <rcjsuen> nitind: http://www.eclipse.org/ecf/dailies30.php you mean?
[01:42:24] <ecfuser57681> btw, that direct URL to the image didn't work for me in FF... server didn't set the right mime-type it appears.
[01:42:36] <rcjsuen> yeah I just noticed that also
[01:42:48] <rcjsuen> wrt servers, http://wiki.eclipse.org/ECF_Servers
[01:42:54] <ecfuser57681> Confirmed, server returns "text/plain"... oops.
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[01:44:06] <nitind> rcjsuen: Yes.
[01:44:25] <ecfuser57681> Thanks for the link...
[01:44:29] <ecfuser57681> Note on that page:
[01:44:34] <ecfuser57681>  Connecting to the ECF Generic Server
[01:44:44] <ecfuser57681> 3. Choose 'Communications' -> 'Connect Project to Collaboration Group...' from the popup menu.
[01:44:56] <rcjsuen> nitind: it wasn't up before, i think scott only brought it back two or three weeks ago
[01:45:00] <rcjsuen> nitind: myabe that's y you couldn't find it?
[01:45:05] <ecfuser57681> I don't get that contextual menu at all... There's no "Communications" menu whatsoever.
[01:45:45] <nitind> rcjsuen: No, I mean when I download it (and it's 3.1), it's a repository.
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[01:45:53] <rcjsuen> o
[01:45:56] <rcjsuen> nitind: does that link work? :|
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[01:46:12] <nitind> ecfuser57681: In which editor?
[01:46:12] <rcjsuen> ecfuser57681: Yes I've been puzzled about that since the beginning of the conversation.
[01:46:22] <nitind> rcjsuen: Well, sure.
[01:46:33] <ecfuser57681> Project Explorer view, general text editor, anything.
[01:46:44] <rcjsuen> nitind: o ok
[01:47:12] <ecfuser57681> I just don't get that option.
[01:48:22] <ecfuser57681> Okay, I gotta go for now. I'll check back in later. Thanks guys.
[01:48:43] <ecfuser57681> At least I have a nice IRC client in Eclipse...
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[02:11:44] <NoobFukaire> is there a utility for managing services with osgi?
[02:12:01] <NoobFukaire> like something that will watch for a set of required services and once they're available proceed in some fashion?
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[02:19:01] <NoobFukaire> DS doesn't work yet
[02:19:07] <NoobFukaire> maybe servicebinder will do the job
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[02:28:18] <NoobFukaire> is there a date set for OSGi 4.3 release?
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[02:30:02] <rcjsuen> you'd have to check their website/mailing list
[02:30:38] <bigvortex> I have been reading about everything I can.
[02:31:37] <bigvortex> As far as I can tell I have what I need but I must be missing that one little part that is screwing up everything.
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[04:10:21] <theHakon> hi
[04:10:21] <theHakon> i have just created a new workspace and i can't add packages or classes, because when I click "browse" it doesn't show the dir-structure, but just "no entries available"
[04:10:21] <theHakon> please help me fix this
[04:11:03] <rcjsuen> click browse...where?
[04:11:13] <theHakon> in the wizard
[04:11:33] <theHakon> I rightclick->new->package/class/whatever
[04:12:16] <theHakon> and in the wizard that appears I want to chose the source folder
[04:12:27] <theHakon> but I can't
[04:13:11] <rcjsuen> Did you make a project?
[04:13:15] <rcjsuen> A Java project?
[04:14:11] <theHakon> thx
[04:16:48] <stibotrac> lol
[04:21:08] <rcjsuen> I had the same problem when I first started using Eclipse some 4.5 years ago. :o
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[04:35:33] <theHakon> why is the .metadata folder getting bigger, even if i delete stuff? i mean, today a filesize of ~100mb would still be considered small, but normally sourcecode would even fit on a floppy :P
[04:36:10] <rcjsuen> Can't say I've ever really cared about its size.
[04:36:22] <rcjsuen> I don't share my .metadata folder with other people anyway.
[04:39:03] <theHakon> i understand that its not that critical, but i like to carry my things around on a usb drive with portableApps so i can work on multiple pcs and i just don't understand why the size is now over 30mb although i have deleted everything again
[04:39:29] <rcjsuen> It keeps history of files, amongst other things.
[04:39:37] <theHakon> ah, k
[04:39:52] <theHakon> can i somehow clean it up?
[04:41:06] <rcjsuen> I don't know of any way off-hand.
[04:42:02] <theHakon> and how big is .metadata getting over time? will it be 2gb one day? :D
[04:42:32] <theHakon> or even bigger??
[04:43:20] <rcjsuen> Some people's might be 2 gigs, hard to say.
[04:43:40] <rcjsuen> i have one at 195 and another at 86
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[04:57:03] <tnks> I see how to install and uninstall things from the p2 director (at least from the docs)
[04:57:14] <tnks> but can the p2 director easily "update all"?
[04:57:27] <tnks> I'm interested in provisioning Eclipse headless.
[04:57:42] <tnks> to update and install plugings.
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[05:21:04] <ilmenite> i have a c++ project, how do i compile one file in there? all files have a main() as i am building a set of apps for my college....
[05:21:18] <ilmenite> so i want to compile and run only one file from there
[05:21:22] <ilmenite> how do i do this?
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[05:58:09] <monk12> Anyone have phpunit working with eclipse? i saw 3 tutorials but none worked. logically though those 3 kinda made sense. but the one specifically for Windows setup didnt help me out. I have as the 1st field: path-to-php/phpunit.bat, 2nd field: think i used the ${container_loc} since the unit test could be anywhere in the 'localhost project' or a specific web localhost project on eclipse, and 3rd param i think is just the ${reso
[05:58:36] <monk12> so when you have resource in the a localhost project selected, it should just run it.
[05:59:47] <monk12> the linux tutorials had very similar except 1st field is path-to-php/php 2nd: ${container_loc} 3rd: command line args to phpunit directory and ${resource_loc}. but dont apply in my situation i think.
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[06:37:46] <prahal_> hi anyone experienced pango_layout_new crashes with the installer ? http://pastebin.com/m29305318 (java debug) http://pastebin.com/m58105ba6 (gdb)
[06:38:49] <prahal_> the issue is that when allocating a new layout via g_object_new there is an error 11 ... but I have  no idea what could lead to an error 11 (resource temporarly unavailable)
[06:39:09] <prahal_> reading the gobject source code did not helped
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[07:56:13] <kromium> I have defined key-bindings in plugin.xml, but the shortcuts are not working in my View. Is there anything I need to do in View and ViewPart in order to enable keyboard shortcuts?
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[08:47:37] <Recreo> ##C
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[09:05:02] <indietrash> Eclipse crashes on start with: /usr/lib/jvm/sun-jdk-1.6/bin/java: symbol lookup error: /home/alexander/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.2.0/configuration/org.eclipse.osgi/bundles/108/1/.cp/libswt-mozilla-gtk-3235.so: undefined symbol: _ZN4nsID5ParseEPKc
[09:05:38] <indietrash> help?
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[09:37:50] <philk_> is it possible to "rebrand" a view? I would like to have an existing view and change its name. All that, without touching the original plugin. Possible?
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[09:50:03] <Kudd> I have a little with svn or/and eclipse, everytime I want to update, it tells me: org.tigris.subversion.javahl.ClientException: svn: URL 'svn://xxx/canal5/trunk/back_office/templates/page/studiocanal/b2b' of existing directory 'back_office/templates/page/studiocanal/B2B' does not match expected URL 'svn://xxx/canal5/trunk/back_office/templates/page/studiocanal/B2B'
[09:50:11] <Kudd> Do you have any idea? i'm on windows xp
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[10:03:37] <stijnbe> Hi is there a subversion channel or can I ask subversion related questions here too?
[10:07:08] <keya> stijnbe: You are using subversion plug-ins?
[10:07:15] <stijnbe> yes
[10:07:39] <stijnbe> I added some folders (in explorer) but I can't find how to add them to version control
[10:07:50] <stijnbe> I just see a red exclamation mark
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[10:51:59] <ObsidianX> hey folks, i was wondering if there was a way to use eclipse in a remote fashion, where the code and compiling resides on another machine but you do all of the graphical coding on the workstation?
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[10:56:12] <b0fh_ua> Hi there! Can somebody please advice how can i switch between package explorer and editor using keyboard only?
[10:56:46] <b0fh_ua> I found out that alt-shift-q-p will take me to package explorer, but it is not clear how to return back to the editor?
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[11:05:51] <Aph0> what could be the problem when content assist doesn't show inner classes/interfaces (Ganymede). Looks like problems with my workspace, since it works in another one. Just so I could copy some preferences from one to the other :)
[11:06:24] <Aph0> I have to do an import of the outer class before I can code-complete the inner one
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[11:16:19] <Aph0> btw, even if I imported the outer class, it doesn't still show the Inner classes. I Always have to explicitly write the outer class before content assist can come in handy :/ (Outer.Inner)
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[13:11:23] <dpy> Does anyone know the best way to use a saved perspective preferences (in org.eclipse.ui.workbench.prefs) as an initial perspective layout?
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[13:51:35] <erdal> is there a way to export a target platform or its plugins?
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[14:37:36] <Kobzar> hi people! Who can unswer me to some of questions?
[14:38:14] <deSilva> no-one if you don't ask them
[14:39:07] <NoobFukaire> Kobzar: I can answer your questions. But first you must retrieve three artifacts for me. Are you ready?
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[14:40:19] <kennyG_> Hello guys! Does anyone here uses Eclipse on a Mac for C programming by any chance ?
[14:42:23] <Kobzar> yes
[14:43:04] <Kobzar> kennyG_, heh.. i join to chanel because whant used eclipse in mac for Java...
[14:43:35] <kennyG_> Kobzar, I just start using Eclipse for this purpose and when I try to run a code I've made this message appears: "Launch failed. Binary not found."
[14:44:12] <kennyG_> Kobzar, so you use it for C and wants to use it for Java as well... ?
[14:44:28] <kennyG_> Kobzar, do you know what could be possible the cause of this disfunction?
[14:44:45] <Kobzar> kennyG_, no. I have this error to...
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[14:45:19] <Kobzar> i wroute the code, then i try compile it and have this error
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[14:56:46] <paulweb515> Kobzar: ~pastebin
[14:56:46] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[14:58:42] <Kobzar> i have another question. I whant programming to Java. Eclipse higlighting the syntaxis, but the eclipse can auto show errors in code? example netbeans?
[14:59:43] <kennyG_> paulweb515, his code is printf("hello world.");. Arent't you following the conversation?
[15:01:09] <Kobzar> kennyG_, maybe you first need greate a project? After greate file in this project and try to code and compile it?
[15:03:07] <kennyG_> Kobzar, I already did that. I am opening the default Hello World demo from Eclipse.
[15:03:44] <Kobzar> i do this to... but i dont know why didn't work....
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[15:10:38] <prahal_> anybody has a working >=3.5.0 under linux (gtk) ? I have a crash on close some kind of window (ie anything modal on top of the main shell  make the shell crash on close , second level modal is ok)
[15:10:59] <prahal_> the end result is hserror about pang_layout_new
[15:11:26] <paulweb515> prahal_: I don't see that, and I'm on GTK 2.10  and 2.14
[15:12:05] <paulweb515> prahal_: So if you open eclipse, and then open the preferences dialog, and then close the preferences dialog it crashes?
[15:12:09] <prahal_> thanks paulweb515 , I am on 2.18
[15:12:31] <paulweb515> prahal_: are you still on the welcome/intro view, or just the standard java perspective?
[15:12:54] <prahal_> java perspective
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[15:13:30] <prahal_> in fact I can also open the configure run dialog , close crash ... seems to be more of an issue with the level above main shell
[15:13:30] <paulweb515> prahal_: 2.18 is extremely recent ... you should open a bug against https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=Platform&component=SWT and attach the hs_err file
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[15:14:00] <paulweb515> prahal_: it might be that SWT has a call that's not quite right for the newest libraries
[15:14:18] <prahal_> seems so . I was investigating jface for 10 hours
[15:14:40] <prahal_> well 10 hours and ended up on jface
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[15:14:51] <prahal_> now the battle begins
[15:15:06] <rcjsuen> 2.17.x / 2.18 has a lot of problems
[15:15:13] <rcjsuen> tho i haven't heard ones that _crash_
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[15:16:23] <prahal_> probably ... though it has become the default in ubuntu karmic and debian sid (soon testing)
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[15:17:32] <prahal_> not that it means much but it will be hard to have anything else than 2.18 on debian derivatives
[15:18:49] <rcjsuen> yeah, i heard about that (default for karmic)
[15:19:17] <rcjsuen> prahal_: I use gentoo and I don't actually use gnome so it's not a problem with me, I'm still on 2.16.x at home.
[15:19:24] <rcjsuen> prahal_: just that i've seen several bug reports about 2.17.x / 2.18
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[15:23:28] <prahal_> ok ... hum I know somebody encountered this issue on fedora and it was fixed by an update around 24 to 28 of september .... and I checked java, eclipse, pango , glib patches but not gtk2
[15:23:34] <prahal_> time to take a look
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[15:35:29] <rcjsuen> philk_: with equinox transforms maybe you could change the name...but that'd be touching that bundle, i guess
[15:35:59] <philk_> rcjsuen: that looked so awfully complicated to do :)
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[15:49:37] <paulweb515> b0fh_ua: F12 (Activate Editor)
[15:49:52] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: not in the channel :|
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[16:17:29] <rhk> yay, eclipse finally finished updating successfully. it kept failing due to bad hashes for the VE components. I updated everything but that yesterday, then VE today.
[16:20:45] <Aleph_One> What is the best way to redraw borders for a component, when FormToolkit#paintBordersFor() is used?
[16:21:15] <Aleph_One> Currently i have a CCombo that changes size and the borders are way behind and wont get redrawn.
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[17:17:13] <prahal_> hum I begin to doubt it is a gtk issue ... used the a latest as in the fedora bug report and still no improvments ... mind that with the same libraries eclipse 3.4 works (only I have another issue with digest.zip missing for the emf update site which prevents any updates from happening ... at least it would takes days to complete at the pace it goes after this error)
[17:18:18] <rcjsuen> prahal_: Either way I suggest you file a bug to SWT.
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[17:20:31] <prahal_> rcjsuen, sure I am in the process of doing it ... only need to reproduce as many crashes cases as possible and to sort them . Because the trace are not the same depending if I close via the window manager of via cancel or finish buttons
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[17:31:42] <xbb> I have a view that extends ResourceNavigator, when I move resources within my view and these resource are modified, I don't get a dialog asking if resource should be saved. What is the approach to notify user before moving resource?
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[18:13:27] <srm> Hi. I have several projects that I want to organize into one folder in the Project view. How can I achieve this? I don't want to use different workspaces for this.
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[18:15:29] <nitind> srm: Use a Working Set and have the view make those the top-level objects.
[18:16:43] <srm> ok, I'll try this. I've seen the WS object but had no idea how to use it. Also have to figure out view-settings. Thank you.
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[18:20:07] <srm> nitind: great. I love them :)
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[18:30:34] <nycz> could anyone tell me or tell me where I could find the main improvements made in eclipse 3.3 and 3.4?
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[18:31:02] <ligi> hi - anyone using atf here?
[18:31:53] <erdal> i have an equinox runtime (buckminster) that need to access the internet through a proxy
[18:32:14] <erdal> i have tried tons of properties, but still cannot get it work
[18:32:17] <ligi> i have problems getting the js editor to work with atf - eclipsejs worked fine but i want to have better code completion
[18:32:53] <nitind> "main"?  http://update.eclipse.org//downloads/drops/R-3.4-200806172000/whatsnew3.4/eclipse-news.html  But 3.5 is what's current.  All fixes and changes are recorded in Bugzilla, anyway.
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[18:33:17] <nitind> ligi: Is there a question in there?
[18:33:22] <erdal> nycz: google for "new and noteworthy eclipse 3.3"
[18:33:28] <erdal> and 3.4
[18:34:03] <nycz> erdal: thank you :)
[18:35:00] <ligi> nitind: not yet ;-) the question could be where do i find "Web Development Tools>>Add JavaScript
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[18:35:03] <ligi> Support.
[18:35:26] <nitind> ligi: In WTP 3.0 and newer as part of JSDT.
[18:35:49] <nitind> ligi: In 3.1 it's in the Configure menu instead.
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[18:37:15] <ligi> nitind: thanx  for the hint - i'll look this up
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[19:06:34] <ligi> nitind: i have wtp 3.1 installed ( inside Eclipse 3.5 ) but the only thing what is in the configure menu is "Convert to plugin Projects" - any idea?
[19:07:03] <ligi> should i remove eclipsejs? perhaps this is the problem
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[19:40:18] <leitao_> how do I get back to a hyperlink position ? I mean, when I click in a hyperlink (function definition), I go to the funciton definiton, and then I want to get back to the original position. any idea ?
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[19:41:30] <rcjsuen> Alt+Left
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[19:59:49] <leitao_> rcjsuen: nice. Do you also know how do I shift right a block of code ? The inverse of "Selecting a block and pressing tab"
[20:00:06] <rcjsuen> leitao_: Er, Shift+Tab?
[20:00:32] <leitao_> rcjsuen: exactly. Thanks
[20:00:54] <rcjsuen> Think you're the second person this week to ask that.
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[20:00:59] <rcjsuen> It must not be a common macro
[20:01:03] * rcjsuen scratches his head.
[20:04:20] <leitao_> rcjsuen: I definitely tried to ask google, but I was not fortunate enough to find that. Sorry
[20:04:54] <rcjsuen> No need to apologize. Just wondering out loud.
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[20:28:14] <alesan> hi how was to include in the project an external directory so I do not copy the files in the workspace but operate directly on the external dir?
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[20:31:04] <xbb> alesan, I suppose you can make a workspace parent of your external directory and then import the directory you want to work on into your workspace
[20:31:28] <alesan> xbb, I tried to do the import but it wants to copy the files
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[20:33:37] <suleyman> Hello all! I just could not form the right google query to find an answer to this. Can I System.out.println() a certain type text so that Eclipse recognize it as a link to a local file and open it as a text editor and go to a certain line?
[20:33:46] <xbb> ah, try this. Create a new project and name it as the directory you want to work on. When you name it like that wizard will detect that directory already exists and will tell you that project with exisiting files will be created. Try that.
[20:34:29] <xbb> alesan, ^
[20:36:53] <alesan> oj
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[21:04:01] <kaje> Where can I find a list of command line args that are available to the eclipse launcher?
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[21:09:40] <aedon> kaje:  http://www.iona.com/support/docs/artix/4.2/help/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.user/tasks/running_eclipse.htm looks like what you want
[21:10:23] <aedon> that version might be a bit old, actually
[21:10:44] <nitind> kaje: http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/topic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.user/tasks/running_eclipse.htm
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[21:11:32] <nitind> ligi: Are you sure it's not already a JS project?
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[21:13:32] <kaje> Thanks all =)
[21:24:02] <rcjsuen> suleyman: No.
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[21:25:45] <suleyman> bummer. It would be cool because I process text files and I'd like to just jump to the file. You know in vi users can simply type "vi +10 foo.txt" which opens the file foo.txt on line 10
[21:26:33] <suleyman> I guess I could print the command line to the console and then copy/paste to dos/cygwin window to open the external editor
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[21:30:08] <mcr> hi. I get a project (Android one) from my colleague (via git). How to I open it up in my workspace? Seems a daft question, I agree.
[21:30:55] <rcjsuen> File > Import
[21:33:03] <mcr> ah. The "Existing Projects" item is not obvious under the General button, but now I found it....
[21:33:34] <rcjsuen> mcr: you can type in the top to filter in the future
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[21:38:41] <Recreo> erman
[21:41:40] <kaje> Has anyone in here had success using the --launcher.secondThread argument when running an Eclipse application is OSX?
[21:42:02] <kaje> I don't think the eclipse application is recognizing that argument...
[21:42:31] <rcjsuen> kaje: You're the one who filed ~290970 I'm guessing?
[21:42:33] <Arbalest> Bug 290970 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=290970 - Platform / SWT / 4.0 - Macintosh / Mac OS X - RESOLVED / INVALID / major / - Assignee: swt-triaged - [SWT/AWT] SWT_AWT Bridge doesn't appear to be working
[21:43:03] <kaje> Yes, I still am not having any success getting it working
[21:44:24] <krbarnes> kaje: SWT needs -XstartOnFirstThread, AWT can't run with that option. You need to use the SWT_AWT bridge to get the two to work together.
[21:45:52] <krbarnes> kaje: there are snippets on how to use it. http://eclipse.org/swt/snippets/#awt
[21:46:17] <kaje> krbarnes: So, if I have an existing Swing application, does that mean I need to go through and replace all JFrames with SWT Windows?
[21:47:10] <rcjsuen> I'm curious as to why you're going through all this when your application is pure Swing? :o
[21:47:58] <kaje> My understanding of the SWT_AWT bridge is that it is used to put AWT elements inside of SWT controls and the reverse, but not for when you want to be able to use either as top level windows
[21:48:08] <kaje> We are trying to move away from swing
[21:48:16] <krbarnes> I don't know. The common case is to embed some JPanel into an SWT Shell. Putting SWT into AWT isn't done much
[21:48:44] <kaje> We want to use some of eclipse application framework features like update and preferences in our application
[21:49:06] <kaje> What is frustrating is that this only seems to be a problem on OSX...
[21:49:45] <krbarnes> kaje: The AWT event loop is different on mac.
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[21:57:00] <kaje> Where do I specify the location of the workspace data for a plugin?
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[22:24:34] <paulweb515> kaje: what do you mean?  You can get a state location to write out data per-plugin ... that?
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[22:32:31] <kaje> I mean the instance area, is that defined per plugin or per application?
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[22:35:33] <rcjsuen> That's for the entire application.
[22:36:33] <kaje> oh, where do I define that path?
[22:36:41] <rcjsuen> in the config.ini i think
[22:36:44] <rcjsuen> well, some ini file anyway
[22:37:34] <mauroC> I have a problem with org.eclipse.jface.text.templates.ContextTypeRegistry.addContextType(TemplateContextType)
[22:38:35] <mauroC> when put contextType in linkedHasMap (fContexttype) it seems not put it
[22:40:26] <mauroC> I step into java src hashMap.put and it cannot create hash for my contextType.id
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[22:47:32] <Jahannan> Hey guys, I'm currently working on a plugin and having a weird error. There are a couple of classes I have running which collect and store information reported to them by listeners hanging on IWorkbenchWindow, IWorkbenchPart, IWorkbenchPage etc
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[22:48:40] <Jahannan> So anyway, I'm storing things like which part is currently in focus and which pages are currently open. The problem I'm having though is that when this is printed out to XML it works fine in the runtime-Eclipse application window, but not if I compile the plugin and run it from within the default eclipse window.
[22:48:50] <nitind> kaje: Your plug-in has its own instance data area path available to it.
[22:49:45] <Jahannan> In the default Eclipse window, all it does is notice the first event of the type it is interested in, and then it never updates, just keeps incrementing the time to indicate that that View is still the one in focus when it plainly isn't.
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[22:50:52] <rcjsuen> nitind: I think you mean getStateLocation(), the API exposed from Plugin?
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[22:51:17] <nitind> rcjsuen: Yes.  That one.  The contents under which are entirely up to that plug-in to manage.
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[23:19:31] <shapr> Hi, I've used emacs for a decade, and visual studio for a year or two. I'm trying out Eclipse, is there a tutorial that specifically draws on emacs or VS2008 background?
[23:19:32] <Seven_Six_Two> I just started using eclipse galileo for first year uni java class, and we are required to use Dr.java for some things(as well as some custom classes). I have set up the project so that the external classes are found and everything runs fine, but some of the .java files have a ~ after the name in the package explorer and I can't edit the file in the editor now. I also can't find anything with google about how to fix it. any id
[23:19:32] <Seven_Six_Two> eas?\
[23:20:30] <shapr> Sorta quiet in here :-)
[23:21:06] <nitind> shapr: I suspect it's that no one has answer for that.
[23:21:30] <shapr> nitind, That makes sense, thanks!
[23:21:33] <nitind> Seven_Six_Two: Have you been editing those files from outside of Eclipse?
[23:21:50] <Seven_Six_Two> yeah...I'm sitting in the hallway outside my lab because I have to submit an assignment and I can't make a change from within eclipse. refresh doesn't get rid of the ~ and my file browser doesn't show the
[23:22:00] <Seven_Six_Two> nitind, yes. from dr.java
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[23:22:24] <nitind> Seven_Six_Two: Eclipse has its own, extremely good, Java editor.
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[23:22:45] <Seven_Six_Two> nitind, yes, but dr.java is required because of the interactions pane.
[23:23:14] <Seven_Six_Two> nitind, is there an easy fix?
[23:23:33] <nitind> Seven_Six_Two: I've never heard of dr.java, so I don't know.
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[23:24:10] <Seven_Six_Two> nitind, it's just a basic learning environment. I just need to know how to get eclipse to let me edit it again.
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[23:27:35] <Seven_Six_Two> some of the .java files are ok. the ones I'm having trouble with say    turtle.java~   and I can't edit it from eclipse
[23:27:51] <Seven_Six_Two> or specialclass.java~
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