[00:00:17] <justin_> I dunno what I need thats why i download different version so your saying the main one that only like 50 something mb's can do what all the other ones can you just need to install plug ins?
[00:00:57] <rcjsuen> black_13: Use them in what way? In Ant when you compile stuff with the 'javac' task you need to pass in classpath information. Ant's website provides some simple examples you may be able to follow from there. ##java may also be able to help you.
[00:02:34] <black_13> i had started there
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[00:03:43] <|kesselhaus|> justin_: well, just do, what everyone else probably also does, go to the plugins site and read what is does, and evaluate what would suite your needs
[00:04:00] <black_13> i had want to poing the install lucene jar files in /usr/share/java
[00:05:23] <justin_> Ikessee  Ok What version of Eclipse should I install since I want to do Java Mobile and Web?
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[00:11:32] <|kesselhaus|> justin_: well, the current release is 3.5, but if i look into the release schedule, then tomorrow 3.5.1 (sercive release) should be available..
[00:12:50] <|kesselhaus|> justin_: you could either download the classic version, and then install the plugins from within eclipse from the updates site
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[00:13:57] <justin_> one more probem I have with eclipe is when I go to debug or  run a application it always says the java server is missing!!! and I have java installed on my computer .....netbeans does not do that
[00:14:30] <|kesselhaus|> java server?
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[00:15:15] <justin_> JRE or something it says
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[00:16:25] <justin_> no program will ever run because it says it cant find it ...llike the other day i was trying to a simple "Hello World" java proj and it said it was missing java something so it could not run
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[00:20:50] <justin_> so java programs you guys make run right out of the box, with no plugins??  It must because I only tried it with linux or mac.
[00:21:01] <justin_> maybe i should get the windows version.
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[00:21:32] <j_anon> Is there anyone here with subversion/subclipse setup experience?
[00:21:56] <rcjsuen> justin_: dunno, i don't think i've ever seen any "server" errors
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[00:22:52] <justin_> u run windows
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[00:23:29] <rcjsuen> justin_: at home i use linux, at work i use xp
[00:24:24] <justin_> hm JRE stand for java runtime enviroment right... I know I got that because I run java program all the time.. just not my own.
[00:24:35] <rcjsuen> that's what it stands for, correct
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[00:26:03] <justin_> So JRE is basically what you need to RUN java.   After I run a prog it asks me where it is ..and it bring up the finder window and I cant find the correct one.. i think it said something about jars also I dunno
[00:26:48] <rcjsuen> justin_: well if you can run Eclipse and use it then your JRE seems functional to me
[00:27:47] <justin_> maybe it not JRE  but it something it need for the program to run and want me to search for it
[00:28:02] <justin_> btw im using mac
[00:33:35] <j_anon> is there anyone here with subversion/subclipse setup experience?
[00:33:45] <FauxFaux> I use subclipse!
[00:34:14] <j_anon> I love you.
[00:34:44] <j_anon> and also, can you help me? I'm at the "select create/location" filling in the "Url:" field point now
[00:35:02] <j_anon> and every variation of the url that i come up with says "no repository found"
[00:35:19] <j_anon> i know physically where on the server it's located
[00:35:24] <FauxFaux> What're you trying?  Is it a public repo?
[00:35:48] <j_anon> i believe so. I just created it a couple of hours ago
[00:36:20] <FauxFaux> Paste the url.
[00:36:32] <FauxFaux> Or some paraphrasing of the names, but not the rest of the syntax.
[00:36:38] <j_anon> oh my god...
[00:36:40] <FauxFaux> Does it work with the command-line client etc?
[00:36:44] <j_anon> these hours i've been stressing out
[00:36:53] <j_anon> it was an effing typo :|
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[00:37:01] * roaet pats j_anon
[00:37:18] <rcjsuen> j_anon: Take solace in the fact you did not spend hours x 2.
[00:37:28] <j_anon> sigh...thanks, guys
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[00:48:58] <justin_> How do you set up Subversion I downloaed it and unstuffed it, it put it is in a directory with folders and files not but not executable application
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[00:49:48] <FauxFaux> bin/svn?
[00:50:06] <justin_> yeah there is a bin folder
[00:50:18] <rcjsuen> based on wehre it's installed there should be an 'svn' binary in it
[00:50:54] <rcjsuen> #svn may be able to help you.
[00:51:06] <justin_> ok how do you open a binary, i am unfamiliar
[00:51:34] <FauxFaux> What /are/ you doing, and why is it of interest to #eclipse?
[00:51:51] <justin_> is subersion for all your stuff including web application, java, html files or it just for java projects
[00:52:06] <FauxFaux> It stores files.
[00:52:31] <justin_> i have not idea i heard someone mention it here, i downloaded yesterday and im trying to figure out what the heck to do with it
[00:54:40] <justin_> dont hate me because im beautiful
[00:55:31] <justin_> okay i got a real question that involves both java and jruby
[00:55:44] <justin_> and eclipse!
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[00:57:50] * dominikg shakes his magic 8-ball
[00:58:06] <paulweb515_> "Outcome is doubtful"
[00:58:13] <rcjsuen> I have lots of questions too.
[00:59:03] <justin_> Okay there is a conflict going on inside my head.  I want to learn RoR and Java but I cant decide which one I want more.  Then I heard of something called JRUBY it's RUBY and JAVA!!!
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[01:01:09] <rcjsuen> That doesn't look like a question to me.
[01:01:58] <dominikg> looks like paulweb515_ was right :P
[01:02:43] <jykelly> mattt_, did you learn anything about the problem?
[01:02:59] <justin_> The question is IN ECLIPSE is there a JRUBY plugin, and is there documentation that would help me learn both languages at once????
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[01:03:40] <rcjsuen> I believe there are Ruby plug-ins, dunno if it supports JRuby. Borland or somebody has a commercial Ruby plug-in, you could investigate that.
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[01:06:42] <jykelly> Anyone know what these errors mean: http://i36.tinypic.com/16ia845.jpg ? (trying install Android Plugin in Eclipse)
[01:07:27] <rcjsuen> jykelly: may be down for updating to SR1
[01:07:34] <rcjsuen> jykelly: i am seeing other complaints elsewhere
[01:07:51] <justin_> Wow I see a picture of the website you posted .. cool i never seen pictures except for emotioncons in irc.
[01:09:21] <jykelly> rcjsuen, ahhhh thanks. That kinda makes sense.
[01:09:52] <dominikg> ...and i was about to type a useful answer regarding learning java or ror. *duh* gn8 and don't feed the troll ;)
[01:12:24] <dominikg> rcjsuen,  even if eclipse.org is down for updating, shouldn't other mirrors still be available?
[01:12:55] <dominikg> i thought p2 was looking for alternatives if one mirror isn't responding
[01:12:56] <rcjsuen> dominikg: There's no excuse for the repositories to be down but *shrugs*
[01:13:12] <rcjsuen> dominikg: I don't think any timeframe was announced
[01:13:32] <rcjsuen> so I presume this is an "unexpected outage" ;p
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[01:19:58] <paulweb515_> rcjsuen: I think they're updating the main site and replicating to the mirrors
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[01:20:38] <paulweb515_> rcjsuen: since they switched to the new large disks, they aren't able to "freeze" the sites until the mirrors finish replicating anymore
[01:21:07] <rcjsuen> paulweb515_: I think this should've been part of Denis's blog post then :o
[01:21:57] <NoobFukaire> what blog?
[01:22:24] <NoobFukaire> found it
[01:25:58] <justin_> anybody know anything about JRUBY
[01:26:50] <NoobFukaire> dude
[01:27:04] <NoobFukaire> you want either Scala + Lift or Groovy + Grails
[01:27:12] <NoobFukaire> Ruby is so 2007
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[02:04:29] <wyvern`> are there known bugs in the java incremental builder or something? Eclipse often decides that my classes can't find other classes (sometimes in the same package, sometimes in other packages), but when i force a 'clean', it's all fine
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[02:06:20] <paulweb515_> wyvern`: what version of eclipse are you using?  I remember having that kind of problem with 3.3, but by 3.4 it had mostly cleared up (and I didn't see it in 3.5)
[02:07:10] <wyvern`> 3.5
[02:07:19] <wyvern`> small java ee project
[02:07:32] <wyvern`> i haven't noticed at all in the java perspective, only java ee
[02:07:49] <wyvern`> sometimes it even happens when i just auto-format
[02:09:10] <aurelio_buendia> Are there still issues with repository updates? I can't seem to get anything to update at all (Eclipse 3.5).
[02:09:27] <rcjsuen> aurelio_buendia: several ppl have reported this problem today
[02:10:08] <aurelio_buendia> Ok, I hate feeling lonely with a problem. :)
[02:10:33] <wyvern`> i just tried it, and got a bunch of updates
[02:10:41] <wyvern`> including the java ee tools i'm having trouble with, so i'll try that :)
[02:10:57] <aurelio_buendia> Any theories? I tried the "add a trailing slash to each URL" solution (in various forms). No luck there.
[02:11:34] <rcjsuen> none that i know of, i'd just wait if i were you
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[02:13:39] <justin_> Anyone ever use MONO, and develop a .NET application for a linux machine.
[02:14:22] <wyvern`> aurelio_buendia, i take it back. updates aren't working.
[02:14:31] <wyvern`> It will tell me i have updates, but can't find basically any of the features
[02:14:40] <wyvern`>   No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.jdt,3.5.1.v200909170800
[02:14:47] <wyvern`> really? no jdt?
[02:14:53] <wyvern`> so something is clearly wrong
[02:17:56] <nitind> justin_: You might be in the wrong channel for that.
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[02:21:50] <aurelio_buendia> wyvern`: That's what I get, all day long.
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[02:30:01] <justin_> sorry just asking questions
[02:31:18] <nitind> justin_: Nothing wrong with that, but I don't think you're going to get a lot of answers related to that in this channel.
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[04:12:57] <justin_> Sweet
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[04:27:52] <amitz> how to debug eclipse besides ./eclipse -debug doesn't reveal additional info. Last line is "Starting application: ???" then control is returned to console again. Maybe I'm missing dependency? Eclipse 3.5 from tar, debian lenny. No xserver, using tightvncserver as replacement. eclipse from debian package works.
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[04:36:51] <amitz> using sun-java. already update-java-alternatives.
[04:39:00] <krbarnes> amitz: are you looking to attach a debugger, or dump messages to the console?
[04:39:54] <amitz> krbarnes: well, dump messages first since debugger may be beyond my ability.
[04:40:11] <krbarnes> try ./eclipse -consoleLog
[04:41:11] <NoobFukaire> Does apache harmony run eclipse fairly well?
[04:41:19] <NoobFukaire> I'm gonna find out
[04:43:25] <amitz> krbarnes: thanks! got my depdency problem using your method.
[04:45:09] <justin_> Can .NET be employed on a Windows Machine that runs WAMP?
[04:45:38] <black_13> wamp?
[04:45:53] <krbarnes> justin_: this is #eclipse
[04:49:36] <justin_> oh sorry i have 4 chatroom opened at once.   I saw you were talking about apache also.  So i was wondering if a apache sever on winserver would deploy .NET websites, and Java ones.
[04:57:45] <justin_> black_13:  Lamp (Linux, Apache, Mysql, PHP)  it is the most popular webserver.  Wamp means the same thing except the W part = Windows.
[04:57:56] <black_13> ah
[04:57:58] <black_13> i get you
[04:58:03] <black_13> why?
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[05:01:57] <bclare> Hi all, I have a plugin question.
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[05:04:09] <krbarnes> bclare: just ask
[05:05:19] <bclare> OK, I configured JBoss by updating plugins....
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[05:06:11] <bclare> I then started a jsf application tute. and when I attemoted to open the .jsp, I received an error mess...age
[05:06:32] <bclare> org.mozilla.xulrunner.
[05:07:09] <bclare> I have found a .jar and imported it but get the same error. Am I doing something wrong?
[05:07:17] <krbarnes> bclare: anything in the error log?
[05:07:21] <elihusmails> anyone here use SWTbot?
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[05:08:15] <bclare> um unfortunately I'm not on that machine. But the error stated that the mozilla.xulrunner was missing.
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[05:09:01] <bclare> Is it correct to import the [ ]	org.mozilla.xulrunner.gtk.linux.x86.feature_1.8.1.3-20070904.jar to the project in this instance?
[05:10:00] <krbarnes> bclare: I don't know what you are doing
[05:13:03] <bclare> OK. Alternative question. If i can't find an update site to install a plugin but only a jar shouldn't I be able to Update > Add > Import Archive to import the plugin (.jar file)?
[05:15:22] <krbarnes> depends on what's in the jar
[05:16:58] <bclare> So I should unpack it?
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[05:21:08] <krbarnes> bclare: did you try putting it in your dropins folder?
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[05:21:44] <justin_> What are some of the plugin in ECLIPSE should be using if I want to do Jquery, PHP, XHTML/CSS, and Mobile Phone Dev (android)
[05:21:48] <bclare> no. Is that the /plugins folder?
[05:23:07] <krbarnes> bclare: I was thinking of /dropins, but plugins will also work (maybe)
[05:23:07] <bclare> I see the /dropins folder.
[05:23:43] <bclare> Cool, so that loads the jar file when next eclipse is started?
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[05:24:29] <krbarnes> bclare: you can put plugins in there...
[05:24:31] <justin_> And a follow up to the last question, Should I just get the classic and add plugs ins since I want to do more than one thing, or is each platform different for eclipse theres alot of em?
[05:25:38] <bclare> OK. Thanks krbarnes. I'll try that
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[10:13:40] <B|ackPanther> I have been trying to locate the eclipse sdk examples and haven't had any luck as yet , where can i download the eclipse SDK example .zip ? Doing it from within eclipse gives me an error .
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[11:11:40] <paulweb515_> B|ackPanther: they should be on the appropriate download page ... http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
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[11:13:24] <hoerup> shouldn't galileo sr1 be released today
[11:18:30] <paulweb515_> hoerup: it will (AFAIK) ... but the day's still young :-)
[11:18:38] <hoerup> :)
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[12:01:44] <Kudd> what is the repository for eclipse updates, because eclipse tells me "no repository for..." for the new update
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[13:20:24] <paulweb515> Kudd: which new update
[13:20:35] <paulweb515> Kudd: do you mean what Repo to pick up Galileo SR1?
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[13:51:52] <Kudd> nope, paulweb515, apparently there is 3.5.1
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[13:53:05] <paulweb515> Kudd: that's the version number for eclipse SDK that's part of Galileo SR1
[13:53:14] <paulweb515> Kudd: and it hasn't been released yet
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[13:54:52] <Kudd> weird, paulweb515, because eclipse said "new updates", I can apply it, but when it wants to do it, i have "no repository"
[13:58:49] <paulweb515> Kudd: it should be announced today (information was uploaded last night AFAIK) ... the problem is mirrors.  It'll take a while for SR1/3.5.1 to show up in the mirror sites, and until it does it won't be available
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[13:59:37] <Kudd> okay paulweb515 thank you ;)
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[14:10:06] <roaet> i downloaded an example off the web that put itself into my eclipse/features,plugins directory. How do I run/view source of said example?
[14:11:31] <paulweb515> roaet: to make extra content available, I think you have to put it in the dropins folder (as of 3.4) instead of unzipping it over your installation.  ~dropins
[14:11:31] <T-elos> To learn about how to use the dropins/ folder provided by p2, see here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Getting_Started#Dropins
[14:12:25] <roaet> oh poop :(
[14:13:03] <roaet> thanks paulweb515
[14:13:59] <roaet> paulweb515: it is still eclipse.exe -clean to start eclipse and clear caches/etc right?
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[14:19:33] <roaet> ah.. guess that isn't valid anymore.
[14:22:07] <roaet> Kay.. I can't figure out how to get the nebula project stuff to show up in my eclipse (not sure if they should 'show up' actually...)
[14:25:15] <roaet> awkward.. when I use the psf that cvs server magically works.. weirdness.. anyway.. sorry for spamming.
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[14:47:03] <raxelo_> hi all. does somebody know how to solve this ?
[14:47:14] <raxelo_> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=487929&S=592403fc85e059b1172c91110026cafe
[14:47:24] <raxelo_> i can not install pydev =(
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[14:47:59] <rcjsuen> raxelo_: there's some outage at the moment. I guess you could try working around it by downloading PyDev directly and using the ~dropins folder.
[14:47:59] <T-elos> To learn about how to use the dropins/ folder provided by p2, see here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Getting_Started#Dropins
[14:48:56] <raxelo_> T-elos, thanks a lot!
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[14:51:58] <adante> anybody here use ant with eclipse
[14:52:04] <adante> i'm trying to figure out how to set targets
[14:52:13] <adante> i've created a new builder
[14:52:18] <adante> set the build.xml file
[14:52:33] <adante> \then under targets i click set targets and it's blank and i can't... set targets?
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[14:54:05] <maxb> I'm using the p2 provisioner, but it gets tedious re-downloading the same thing multiple times. Is there some way I can tell it to use a local cache directory?
[14:55:24] <rcjsuen> adante: worksforme
[14:55:35] <rcjsuen> adante: You've set a build file on the first tab...I hope.
[14:56:02] <adante> rcjsuen: yes
[14:56:06] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[14:56:12] <paulweb515> maxb: are you using the director app, or you mean through the UI
[14:56:25] <rcjsuen> It's fine for me, I see stuff anyway.
[14:56:34] <adante> so, are there entries in the set targets dialog for you?
[14:56:42] <maxb> paulweb515: the director app
[14:57:03] <rcjsuen> Yes, I see the targets, defined in my build file, in said dialog.
[14:57:16] <maxb> And I'm doing the same thing for i386 and amd64, hence the desire for a cache
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[14:58:04] <paulweb515> maxb: the director will take zipped repos, ones expanded on the file system as well as URLs
[14:58:16] <paulweb515> maxb: is it that you have http repos at the moment?
[14:58:29] <adante> hm, perhaps i don't have ant installed
[14:58:37] <maxb> Yes, I'm pointing it at the Galileo repository, basically
[14:59:06] <rcjsuen> adante: that dialog wouldn't even open, if you didn't have Ant in your Eclipse setup
[14:59:13] <maxb> Speaking of which, is it broken currently? Lots of missing references.
[14:59:15] <paulweb515> maxb: http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/guide/p2_mirror.html
[15:00:01] <maxb> paulweb515: hmm. I suspect that mirroring the entire galileo repo would get a bit.... big.
[15:00:09] <adante> rcjsuen: hm, when i edit launch configuration properties i have an "External tool location does not exist" message
[15:00:19] <paulweb515> maxb: yes, today they're releasing 3.5.1/Galileo SR1 ... but the update repos have exposed the metadata before the artifacts (plugins) have finished replicating to the mirrors
[15:00:29] <maxb> Ideally I want a "download on first use and then cache locally for future invocations" arrangement
[15:00:33] <paulweb515> maxb: it is, but you can specify IUs or features to mirror
[15:00:56] <paulweb515> maxb: if you've already installed them into a profile, you can use that profile as the repository for the next install
[15:01:19] <paulweb515> maxb: so install once into A, and then when installing into B point at A
[15:01:25] <paulweb515> maxb: will that do?
[15:01:28] <roaet> Anyone know how to run the nebula project examples.. I can't seem to figure it out :(
[15:02:05] <maxb> Can I point at A and http-Galileo simultaneously, and have it use A if it's there and fall back to http for missing bits?
[15:02:06] <paulweb515> maxb: I use -repository file:/opt/local/eclipse/p2/org.eclipse.equinox.p2.engine/profileRegistry/SD KProfile.profile
[15:02:09] <Aleph_One> Where is a good place to look for shared images, besides org.eclipse.ui.ISharedImages ?
[15:03:11] <paulweb515> maxb: it will definitely allow -repository file:<A>,http<Galileo>
[15:03:28] <paulweb515> maxb: but I'm not sure what the invocation should look like to get it to work
[15:03:45] <maxb> I guess I'll have to play around and see what happens.
[15:04:42] <paulweb515> maxb: i.e.? A,G?  G,A?  or you might even have to break it up into the separate -metadatarepository -artifactsrepository options, since A...SDKProfile is the metadata repo and A/ is the artifact repo
[15:05:11] <paulweb515> maxb: or you can start off by mirroring the IUs you want ... *then* install from your local mirror
[15:05:32] <roaet> The problem I'm having is that I can't seem to find a 'main' in any of these examples.
[15:05:34] <rcjsuen> Aleph_One: IDE has a similar interface I believe.
[15:05:35] <rcjsuen> ~api IDE
[15:05:36] <T-elos> org.eclipse.ui.ide.IDE - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/ui/ide/IDE.html
[15:05:37] <maxb> That is true. But I'd be doing dependency resolution manually, then, wouldn't I?
[15:05:39] <roaet> There is one that implements IApplication though...
[15:05:54] <rcjsuen> Aleph_One: Not all images are shared. You may have to file an enhancement request at times.
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[15:06:52] <Aleph_One> rcjsuen: I was thinking like images like start stop import export logs and similar
[15:07:02] <Aleph_One> T-elos: thanks i'll have a look at it
[15:07:07] <rcjsuen> start/stop would be from debug
[15:07:19] <rcjsuen> i guess 'Error Log' view would be from the logs plug-in
[15:07:22] <rcjsuen> tho i doubt that's public
[15:09:15] <jink> Hmmm, forgot to update my shortcut.  Just found out I've been starting Eclipse with -clean for a couple of days. :P
[15:09:49] <Aleph_One> rcjsuen: ok, perhaps a better solution to copy all i need and include in the plugin, but i have duplication
[15:09:54] <Aleph_One> s/have/hate
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[15:11:09] <rcjsuen> Aleph_One: well you can a) hate it and still do it, b) draw your own icons, and give your application/plug-in a possibly inconsistent feel, or c) file an enhancement request and wait for the API to be added
[15:16:22] <roaet> Anyone know how to handle this: no swt-win32-3612 in java.library.path
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[15:17:57] <adante> anybody know how i can fix this error http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5280/exttool.png
[15:18:12] <adante> or what it means exactly
[15:18:14] <Aleph_One> rcjsuen: yes i will probably go for a.. code duplication is worse ;)
[15:18:53] <Aleph_One> Its also a way of avoided uneccesary dependencies of course
[15:19:05] <adante> is ant integrated into eclipse?
[15:19:36] <Aleph_One> adante: yes
[15:19:49] <Aleph_One> Window->Show View and select Ant
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[15:20:22] <papo> hello
[15:21:04] <adante> hm, any idea what eclipse is trying to tell me when it says external tool location does not exist
[15:21:28] <rcjsuen> adante: Try in a new workspace and see what happens.
[15:21:44] <roaet> Ok. I can get the eclipse application to start but it can't seem to find swt-win32-3612.dll or swt-win32.dll. I have searched my swt project for those files I couldn't locate them.
[15:22:01] <rcjsuen> roaet: Those are output files, as you might've imagined.
[15:22:52] <roaet> rcjsuen: I'd assume they are prebuilt somewhere as my other swt applications run fine. I just can't seem to find them :(
[15:23:24] <papo> what's the difference between a managed make C++ project and a standard make C++ project?
[15:24:12] <rcjsuen> papo: one manages the makefile, the other you write your own, i believe
[15:24:17] <rcjsuen> tho that's a pretty old concept
[15:24:30] <rcjsuen> papo: What is your version? Help > About
[15:24:41] <papo> rcjsuen: yep I just realized that by reading the topic
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[15:25:11] <papo> I installed eclipse ages ago but never used it... guess I'll just upgrade, sorry
[15:25:26] <adante> lol christ is there a working mirror for eclipse
[15:25:34] <adante> just tried first 3 links off website none of which work
[15:26:03] <rcjsuen> adante: most if not all are down at the moment
[15:26:12] <adante> nice
[15:26:48] <adante> any reason or just snafu
[15:28:07] <rcjsuen> adante: the service release is being mirrored/distributed/whatever
[15:28:44] <roaet> rcjsuen: if I rebuild my org.eclipse.swt project will that dll be produced?
[15:29:03] <rcjsuen> roaet: Don't think so. YOu need to manually build them via build.bat/build.sh I believe.
[15:29:18] <rcjsuen> roaet: if your toher projects work, it's not immediately clear to me why that one doesn't work
[15:29:31] <adante> lol farcical
[15:29:33] <rcjsuen> roaet: why do you have SWT in your workspace anyway, i thot you're just using nebula
[15:29:54] <roaet> rcjsuen: I am, but I am admittedly confused
[15:30:26] <roaet> So what i'm doing right now probably doesn't make much sense.
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[15:32:36] <roaet> This is the strange error: http://eclipse.pastebin.com/m6ac47c17
[15:32:45] <roaet> I don't know why it is trying to look in my Temp
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[15:34:23] <adante> rcjsuen: well i deleted everything and started again, seems to work - thanks!
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[15:37:07] <rcjsuen> roaet: why don't you close your swt project
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[15:38:19] <krbarnes> roaet: swt will unpack dlls to you temp folder and try to load them from there
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[15:38:52] <krbarnes> but its not finding the right version.
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[15:39:34] <krbarnes> make sure you update org.eclipse.swt, and org.eclipse.swt.win32.win32.x86 projects if you have them as source
[15:39:46] <roaet> ok i closed it.
[15:39:54] <roaet> it takes a bit of time for everything to work.
[15:40:00] * roaet has a slow computer.
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[15:43:21] <roaet> ok.. it ran... and it gave me a blank eclipse application
[15:43:29] <roaet> thank you for helping me to get it running..
[15:44:34] <roaet> I don't think it is exactly what I wanted, but it's progress.
[15:45:38] <roaet> holy crap it works
[15:45:44] <roaet> thank you. ^_^
[15:48:15] <adante> hrm
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[16:03:07] <rcjsuen> roaet: Great. Good luck with your project.
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[16:08:54] <papo> hum
[16:09:10] <papo> looks like I can download eclipse IDE for Java and Eclipse IDE for C/C++
[16:09:20] <papo> but actually I'm doing both java and C++ development
[16:09:38] <charley> papo: after Eclipse is installed you can always go to Help --> Install new software to update with other DT's
[16:09:57] <papo> ok
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[16:10:09] <charley> papo: IIRC you can find them under the Galileo update site (which should be selectable from a fresh install), under Programming Languages
[16:10:40] <papo> ok, I'll give it a try, thank you
[16:11:48] <rcjsuen> the servers have problems so you might not get that working right now
[16:13:36] <uponone> rcjsuen: what kind of problems?
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[16:13:54] <rcjsuen> uponone: I do not know the details, something to do with mirroring.
[16:14:32] <uponone> rcjsuen: i'm trying to install the latest Subclipse after a fresh Eclipse install and it is bugging out
[16:16:22] <uponone> rcjsuen: I have a good install working on another machine. will it work if i copy it over?
[16:16:40] <rcjsuen> I've never tried.
[16:17:37] <uponone> well, here goes
[16:20:30] <uponone> copy over seems to be working
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[16:30:24] <dpy> What am I doing wrong if only the action handlers registered by my last opened (custom) editor seems to receive the actions (like delete, copy, undo, redo)
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[16:36:26] <paulweb515> dpy: do your other parts implement their setFocus()?
[16:36:46] <paulweb515> dpy: are you just using the actionBars.setGlobalActionHandler(*) to provide cut,copy,paste from your editor?
[16:41:36] <roaet> Situation: I am editing a file that is a part of a project but is not the runnable file. Is there any way to make eclipse only run the runnable file despite which file I'm in with the ALT+SHIT+X shortcut?
[16:42:01] <roaet> I know it's a silly question, but it'd really speed up development.
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[16:44:09] <papo> hm
[16:44:39] <papo> charley: I get a long list of "No repository found containing [...]"
[16:45:27] <zehzinho> hi, I have defined some classes in a package, eclipse says it's all right. When I use one class in another package, eclipse even suggests the importing of the package, but after it's included it says it cannot be resolved. Any help?
[16:45:35] <charley> papo: this may be relating to what rcjsuen was saying about the servers currently being down... :(
[16:45:44] <papo> charley: I downloaded "Eclipse IDE for Java developers", selected Galileo from the "Work with" drop down list and selected C/C++Development tools"
[16:45:48] <charley> (though his exact phrase was "have problems")
[16:45:48] <papo> oh
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[16:45:58] <papo> well yes problems would fit
[16:46:13] <jdolan> hi, i've been getting this error for quite some time now trying to install some of the web tools via the update manager in Galileo:  http://paste.lisp.org/display/87713
[16:46:25] <rcjsuen> jdolan: known server problems
[16:46:30] <jdolan> workaround?
[16:46:41] <rcjsuen> Don't think anyone's identified any.
[16:46:45] <paulweb515> jdolan: it should be stable by tomorrow
[16:46:54] <jdolan> damn, that sucks.
[16:47:05] <jdolan> maybe i'll just download the J2EE bundled release then.
[16:47:14] <jdolan> rather than cherrypick the update site.
[16:47:16] <rcjsuen> roaet: Personally I just use Ctrl+F11.
[16:47:43] <roaet> o? (tries)
[16:48:00] <roaet> It says: Launch failed: no java bean found.
[16:48:29] <roaet> There is no main in that file... ya.
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[16:51:14] <keya> Hi.  There is some problem running Eclipse on Ubunty Hardy distributions.  On search there is a mention of the problem to be with xulrunner 1.9 version.  Using the other version is not helping though.  Can someone tell me where to get a patch for the same or another solution?
[16:51:43] <rcjsuen> keya: 3.5 doesn't work?
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[16:55:26] <papo> charley: Hm is there any mirror ir something?
[16:55:28] <papo> or*
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[16:55:41] <rcjsuen> papo: it's a global problem afaik
[16:55:43] <obruT> Hello ! I got some problems with galileo, can't install PMD (http://pmd.sourceforge.net/eclipse), it fails with message: An error occurred while collecting items to be installed session context was:(profile=epp.package.jee, phase=org.eclipse.equinox.internal.provisional.p2.engine.phases.Collect, operand=, action=). and then list of lots No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,... lines. installation is clean, no other repositories are added or packages
[16:55:50] <papo> uh ok
[16:56:42] <adante> si there a way to comment in xml files?
[16:56:51] <obruT> is there any problem with eclipse repositories ?
[16:56:59] <rcjsuen> obruT: Known server issues. Try again in 24-48 hours.
[16:57:04] <keya> rcjsuen: I haven't tried the 3.5 on it yet.  But i need to use the 3.4 too.
[16:57:23] <rcjsuen> keya: Then don't use Firefox 3.5.
[16:57:31] <dpy> sorry paulweb515, we solved the problem: We were calling setGlobalActionHandler explicitly, we switched to using a ActionbarContributor in the extension point of our editor
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[16:58:08] <keya> rcjsuen: Okay.  But is there any patch that I can use for 3.4 to work on Hardy?
[16:58:23] <rcjsuen> if you wanna recompile swt by hand there's a bug on it in bugzilla
[16:58:49] <keya> rcjsuen: okay.
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[17:20:10] <twyleg> Can sb tell me how to activate a dialogs shell when I create one from a plugin? Currently I'm unable to click anything on my dialog, is there a way to set it active?
[17:20:51] <rcjsuen> sounds like a problem with your code
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[17:23:29] <twyleg> But if run my code as a standalone process it works fine. I could also pass it to pastebin if anybody would like to check it out?
[17:24:46] <rcjsuen> Just put the code up and if someone wants to look at it they will.
[17:25:54] <twyleg> ok, so here's my dialogs code: http://pastebin.com/m432e6c75
[17:27:03] <papo> hum that's a little bit uncomfortable, I scrapped my working, but outdated eclipse install and can't finish installing the new version because of this Galileo problem :(
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[17:27:46] <rcjsuen> twyleg: Is the entire Eclipse workbench blocked?
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[17:28:25] <rcjsuen> twyleg: Instead of having all this code (and your Thread and your asyncExecs), I suggest you just open a simple Shell and a Button to see if you can even click on the Button.
[17:28:49] <twyleg> ok, I'll try that
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[17:33:45] <twyleg> ok, I tried a simple shell with only one button but I can't click this one neither. Do I have to register my shell somewhere to make it the current one or something like that?
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[17:35:27] <rcjsuen> twyleg: take a screenshot
[17:35:32] <rcjsuen> and what does your code look like
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[17:40:27] <twyleg> ok, this is my screenshot: http://totix800.to.funpic.de/dialog.png the small dialog whith the "test" button is the one which I can't access. It gets startet from the "Scannen" button in the launchConfiguration behind
[17:41:16] <twyleg> http://pastebin.com/m62060210  here's the code of the small dialog
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[17:41:55] <rcjsuen> the modal dialog is probably taking control
[17:42:15] <jdolan> nice.  so i downloaded the j2ee galileo release.
[17:42:26] <jdolan> but now i can't install subversive via update site.  lol.
[17:42:46] <twyleg> which one do you mean? The LaunchConfiguration or the one with the "test" button?
[17:44:11] <rcjsuen> well i'm assuming you know what "modal dialog" means
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[17:45:18] <twyleg> the child?!
[17:45:29] <rcjsuen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_window
[17:45:46] <twyleg> I just checked that ^^
[17:47:10] <twyleg> But if the modal dialog takes control it should ab accessible or?
[17:47:44] <rcjsuen> well a modal window blocks interaction with other windows
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[17:48:47] <rcjsuen> it will at least block the parent window anyway, presumably based on the SWT bits in question
[17:49:37] <twyleg> But why are it's own Buttons blocked?
[17:50:26] <rcjsuen> hint, the modal dialog is the launch config dialog
[17:51:19] <twyleg> And how can I make the dialog opened from the config dialog, the new modal dialog?
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[17:53:24] <charley> twyleg: there are modal bits on the SWT styles, though I don't think that's generally the best way... does setActive() do the trick? [I'm not sure, btw :P]
[17:54:34] <twyleg> I already tried setActive() because it sounds like the answer but it didn't
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[17:56:15] <rcjsuen> use the style bits, per what charley said
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[17:56:18] <charley> twyleg: I think these are the SWT modal bits: APPLICATION_MODAL, MODELESS, PRIMARY_MODAL, SYSTEM_MODAL -- can you set the modal dialog to modeless, maybe?
[17:56:57] <twyleg> modeless doesn't work neither, mom I try the other ones
[17:57:23] <rcjsuen> "mom I try the other ones"?
[17:57:23] <dilton> would it matter to add the readAndDispatch loop like in the SWT snippets?
[17:57:41] <rcjsuen> dilton: Add 'em wherever you want, well, assuming you know what you're  doing.
[17:57:48] <rcjsuen> Although it doesn't really have a big impact.
[17:59:02] <dilton> I was referring to the ongoing conversation :-)
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[17:59:52] <rcjsuen> dilton: Then no it wouldn't help.
[18:00:10] <dilton> rcjsuen: okdokey
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[18:02:02] <twyleg> APPLICATION_MODAL, MODELESS, PRIMARY_MODAL, SYSTEM_MODAL  none of these is working
[18:04:07] <rcjsuen> twyleg: Did you parent your new shell off of the modal shell?
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[18:04:54] <twyleg> no it's using Display.getDefault() as it's parent
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[18:06:26] <twyleg> ok, I see it's working if I parent it off of the modal shell, so it's working now
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[18:08:27] <twyleg> btw. thank you
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[18:36:09] <bowman> hi all
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[18:46:44] <anvo> Installing Aptana asks me for a " "org.eclipse.core.runtime (3.4.0)".  How do I install this plugin?
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[18:47:16] <NoobFukaire> I believe you should already have that?
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[18:47:22] <NoobFukaire> although maybe it's a version thing
[18:47:24] <toulmean> anvo: that sounds like an Eclipse platform plugin, you need to run ganymede
[18:47:26] <NoobFukaire> 3.4 is the last release
[18:47:51] <toulmean> NoobFukaire: 3.5 is the latest release.
[18:48:10] <NoobFukaire> ok, 3.4 is the PREVIOUS release
[18:48:11] <NoobFukaire> sorry
[18:48:15] <bowman> breaking my fingers trying to get the updates straight for 3.5.1 - repos still fuzzy?
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[19:10:20] <loreann78> hi! i installed eclipse for php developers and ant disappeared. wondering if someone else has similar experiences and know how to get ant? (ant is not avail in window->show view)
[19:16:42] <nitind> loreann78: Ant comes with the Java Development Tools.  Check your Helo menu for the option to Install additional software.
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[19:22:27] <papo> paulweb515: You said that it should be working again by tomorrow... I'm sorry to ask, but which time zone? I apologize but that matters for my week end planning :(
[19:22:32] <loreann78> hmm.. i tried deleting my eclipse and installed the Eclipse Classic 3.5.1. now it says "ant classpath not found" instead, and i cant seem to get it right when reconfiguring in window->tools. is the classpath for ant stored somewhere workspace related? (so that the old install intereferes, despite being deleted)
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[19:25:50] <magmarules> Guys im getting a null pointer exception when i try to open the templates panel, is there somewhere where i can see the cause ?
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[19:30:34] <nitind> magmarules: ~log
[19:30:34] <T-elos> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[19:30:49] <magmarules> ty
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[19:35:07] <magmarules> It seems to be problems with mylyn
[19:38:27] <magmarules> nitind: if i redownload eclipse will it be able to recover my workspace ?
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[19:43:47] <nitind> magmarules: I would think so.
[19:43:53] <magmarules> ok
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[19:46:54] <magmarules> nitind: by any chance you know how i can create webservices in eclipse so that i can create the the services and operations in a dynamic fashion? that is if i need a new method i add it and eclipse will generate the wsdl. I can only find tutorials that require me to previously create the classes and then run a wizzard to get the wsdls.
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[19:49:45] <paulweb515> papo: it may be in a better shape already ...
[19:50:11] <paulweb515> papo: it'll be a problem if your install hits a mirror that hasn't replicated the artifacts you are looking for
[19:50:19] <nitind> magmarules: Sorry, don't know much of anything about webservices.
[19:50:28] <magmarules> ok =)
[19:52:45] <papo> paulweb515: Oh cool, thank you. I'm giving it a  try right now
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[20:05:10] <papo> paulweb515: just out of curiosity... how is the vector chosen?
[20:05:15] <papo> no wait I'm mixing up stuff, sorry
[20:05:20] <papo> paulweb515: just out of curiosity... how is the mirror chosen?
[20:09:53] <paulweb515> papo: dunno, it's some kind of black magic
[20:12:20] <papo> uh ok
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[20:13:32] <ipwa> hey guys, I'm getting some locked and write-lock svn errors when trying to commit some files, it all started when my machine locked in the middle of a commit, does anyone know how I can solve this, so I can commit my latest changes?
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[20:17:27] <toll_232123> is there an updates site url for pdt? there only seems to be a zip file download on the projects page
[20:20:38] <papo> hm. When I want to release a C++ project, how do I do that?
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[20:21:04] <papo> putting the required stuff in a tarball etc, with an appropriate Makefile... does eclipse provide some help to do that?
[20:21:10] <rcjsuen> toll_232123: Just use the galileo site that's included with your Eclipse installation.
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[20:23:23] <toll_232123> rcjsuen: I am using the fedora packaged eclipse 3.4.2 which doesn't seem to list it in available updates
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[20:25:02] <SuperUser|David> hi. i'm a starter with ubuntu and eclipse. can anyone tell me how to get a simple "hello world" running?
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[20:29:27] <rcjsuen> toll_232123: That's a known bug. Search online for the Ganymede update site.
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[21:36:40] <kaje> Can someone help me figure out this error message? http://pastebin.com/d74038802
[21:38:56] <charley> kaje: what were you trying to do?
[21:40:11] <kaje> I am trying to Launch an Eclipse Application from my product overview tab
[21:40:45] <kaje> It starts up and I see the splash image and then it gets that error message
[21:42:12] <charley> kaje: Product overview tab? I don't think I've ever tried launching from there... what does your run configuration look like? (you should be able to right click on a plugin --> run configurations, see what the Eclipse run config looks like)
[21:42:26] <kaje> This was an RCP app I wrote back in Eclipse 3.3. I am trying to get it to run under 3.5.
[21:42:31] <charley> I think I've had similar errors when the id for the application to launch was incorrect (should have a warning in the configuration, if this is the case)
[21:43:31] <kaje> ok, I'm looking at the configuration now, I don't see any warning flags anywhere
[21:43:49] <kaje> Under Program to Run, I have Run a Product selected and my product id is correct
[21:45:14] <charley> kaje:  :( long shot, but try changing the product to run? I have org.eclipse.sdk.ide
[21:45:42] <kaje> I only have my one product listed... ide isn't in there
[21:47:06] <kaje> You probably have ide listed because you are using your ide as your target. Just a guess though
[21:47:28] <kaje> I tried switching to using an application and it says it can't find the application in the registry
[21:48:40] <kaje> Application "..." could not be found in the registry. The applications available are: org.eclipse.equinox.app.error.
[21:53:00] <charley> kaje:  :( I dpon't have a lot of expereience with this, but have you tried the troubleshooting section on http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-Branding/branding-your-application.html?
[21:53:15] <kaje> Yeah, that didn't really help
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[22:01:52] <rcjsuen> kaje: Did you try creating a new launch configuration?
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[22:06:13] <Dresk|AtWork> Can .classpath files make reference to system environment variables?
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[22:22:59] <anaxi> Hi. I'm trying to change the text color in the text editor window of Eclipse and it doesn't work... General > Appearance > Color and Fonts > Basic > Text Font, but when I change the color it always reverts to black ?
[22:25:11] <rcjsuen> 'Text Font' sounds more like...the font, rather than the colour.
[22:25:33] <anaxi> mmh... where do I change the color, then ? :)
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[22:29:13] <rcjsuen> I believe that's addressed by the FAQ in channel topic.
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[22:40:22] <rcjsuen> anaxi: It's pretty exhaustive and not entirely ordered in a logical manner, yes.
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[23:05:41] <bagigio> !list
[23:05:42] <T-elos> Check out the list of available messages and commands I provide - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/messages.html - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/commands.html
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[23:07:24] <bagigio> ciao
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[23:10:09] <tsfire> anyone know why can't join channel #java ?
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[23:12:30] <charley> tsfire: register your nick
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[23:12:57] <charley> I think the syntax is something like /msg NickServ identify <password> or smth
[23:13:02] <tsfire> k thanks charley
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