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[00:16:49] <glima> rcjsuen: the feature wanted is to insert code at the editor...
[00:17:09] <glima> but inside the cdt c/c++ nature
[00:23:46] <rcjsuen> editor...and nature?
[00:23:46] <rcjsuen> i'm not sure how the two rae related here
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[00:25:19] <mattt_> Are there some things that need to be done when going from 3.4 to 3.5?  When I quit 3.5 it gets stuck on "initializing java tooling"
[00:25:33] <mattt_> something about metadata in the workspace, from 3.4?
[00:26:23] <rcjsuen> If you think it's an issue of metadata, try another workspace and see if it happens there.
[00:26:44] <rcjsuen> You can try searching bugzilla there are a couple of bugs about that thread just sitting there doing nothing.
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[00:32:39] <mwolf91> if I call redraw() on a parent composite will it call the redraw methods of its children?
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[00:33:37] <rcjsuen> i guess the children might be redrawn, i'm not convinced it will necessarily invoke the redraw() method on them tho
[00:34:49] <rcjsuen> at least, the public redraw() method anyway
[00:35:19] <mwolf91> thnaks
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[01:26:36] <Niriven> can you put a jar (a lib that is a jar) in a jar and reference it in the manifest?
[01:27:06] <rcjsuen> rephrase that
[01:27:20] <rcjsuen> and maybe also provide some paths to illustrate it better
[01:29:08] <Niriven> I'd like to create a jar file that has my program (with main method), but also package its dependencies in the jar file itself so i can just hand out the program without worrying about deps being in the right place :)
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[01:29:51] <rcjsuen> Don't think so, try in ##java though.
[01:30:10] <Niriven> ok, thanks
[01:30:57] <rcjsuen> you can specify jars in the manifest but they have to be separate iirc
[01:30:57] <Niriven> and sorry for the stupid questions, im normally a .net / python person :P
[01:33:12] <Niriven> rcjsuen, Ah well the java people say it can be done, i'll try it out.
[01:35:33] <rcjsuen> Niriven: Interesting. Well, let's see what happens I guess. :)
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[01:39:57] <Niriven> rcjsuen, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-onejar/
[01:41:25] <rcjsuen> Niriven: I assumed you wanted that support without doing anything.
[01:41:36] <Niriven> rcjsuen, Ah.
[01:41:38] <rcjsuen> but if you wanna venture into class loading then yes you could do that
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[01:51:34] <debajit> For a JFace binding, what is the easiest way to ensure that before the data is written to the model, it needs to be trimmed?
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[06:11:00] <kkb110> hi, I'm looking for UML plugin for Eclipse that supports source code generation/import. Is there any recommandable solution?
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[06:21:22] <NoobFukaire> njbartlett_: great tutorial on declarative osgi services :)
[06:22:44] <NoobFukaire> Is it okay to use an activator and declare a service?
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[06:52:55] <kkb110> objectAid is really nice UML realtime source code sync plugin!
[06:53:07] <kkb110> perfect! satisfied :D
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[10:07:24] <sprink> Trying to install the android plugin but eclipse says it requires plugin org.eclipse.wst.sse.core
[10:07:31] <sprink> and I can't seem to find that plugin
[10:08:07] <FauxFaux> Do you have WEbTools installed?
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[10:08:22] <sprink> FauxFaux: no
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[10:08:46] <FauxFaux> "wst" is from webtools; I'd install that before trying anything else.
[10:09:13] <sprink> okay thanks
[10:09:33] <Elfish> good morning! i just installed eclipse cdt by following that guide: http://max.berger.name/howto/cdt/ all environment variables are set. if i hit build in exclipse it's generating a exe file that does what it's supposed to. the run button doesnt work tho. it giving "Launch failed. Binary not found." anyone knows how to fix that?
[10:09:36] <FauxFaux> In fact, my webtools enabled Eclipse has plugins/org.eclipse.wst.sse.core_1.1.401.v200909092250.jar :)
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[10:13:21] <Elfish> anyone? :o
[10:14:22] <FauxFaux> Not a clue.
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[10:15:36] <sprink> damn how did I get so screwed. Now webtools requires other plugins
[10:15:55] <sprink> This version of eclipse from the ubuntu repos must come extremely stripped down
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[10:20:11] <Elfish> yay got it.
[10:20:19] <Elfish> i just had to select a binary parser :x
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[10:23:55] <amruta> i have attached a a process output to console view....however i want to filter out the messages displayed in console..
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[10:24:51] <sprink> Does anyone else here use eclipse in ubuntu 9.0.4?
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[10:26:30] <erdal> how would i make use of the navigation commands (left, right) in the window's toolbar?
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[10:28:25] <erdal> refine question: how would i make use of the navigation commands (left, right) in the window's toolbar in my own views/editors?
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[10:36:48] <amruta> does anyone know...ho w to control messages displayed in console view in eclipse
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[10:47:23] <erdal> amruta: as a user or as a developer?
[10:48:30] <amruta> erdal: as a developer
[10:48:50] <erdal> than i have to pass ;-)
[10:50:41] <dpy> any IResource guru around?   If a resource is renamed I get the following events on this resource:  1. a change kind REMOVED with flags MOVED_TO; 2. a change kind ADDED with flags MOVED_FROM; 3. a change kind CHANGED with flags SYNC;   Why is this last event sent?  It sort of messes up my (dirty) editor's react-on-resource-change behaviour. I must be doing something wrong here, but don't know what...
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[10:53:28] <erdal> dpy: i would guess that react-on-resource-change would just ignore the sync event?
[10:53:50] <dpy> I could do that, but is that really what I should be doing?
[10:54:38] <erdal> if i change a file from outside and open that file, eclipse will report an not synced
[10:55:13] <erdal> (press F5 to sync)
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[10:57:17] <amruta> ca we attach a listener to console view...which gives the notification when something is printed on it?
[10:59:26] <erdal> amruta: just explore the listener's interface
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[11:05:16] <amruta> erdal:which listener?
[11:07:02] <jink> Ok, so here we go again.  Eclipse trashed my workspace.  It can't seem to render some things, like the Package explorer, properly.  When I start a new workspace, everything's fine.  But I'd rather recover my old one, because of settings, like defined servers, datasources, projects, repositories, etc, etc...  What can I do?
[11:09:42] <erdal> amruta: the listener you talked about that you would attach...
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[11:15:51] <Mutsch> sorry guys i need to do some irc testing :)
[11:16:00] <jink> I'll repost, because of the netsplit.
[11:16:01] <jink> Ok, so here we go again.  Eclipse trashed my workspace.  It can't seem to render some things, like the Package explorer, properly.  When I start a new workspace, everything's fine.  But I'd rather recover my old one, because of settings, like defined servers, datasources, projects, repositories, etc, etc...  What can I do?
[11:17:37] <erdal> jink: cant you just export your old settings and reimport in a new ws?
[11:17:47] <jink> Oh, can I?
[11:17:52] <jink> Hmmm, let me try that.  Thanks. :)
[11:18:01] <jink> I thought you could only export / import projects.
[11:18:16] <erdal> now you know ;-)
[11:18:47] <jink> I'll try it out, and let you know. :)
[11:18:56] <erdal> jink: export > general > preferences
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[11:22:23] <jink> That doesn't actually export everything.  I don't have Servers / Datasources / Task repositories / Projects(!) and possibly more.
[11:22:52] <imeikas> jink: try running eclipse -clean
[11:22:54] <imeikas> does that help ?
[11:23:15] <jink> imeikas: With my broken workspace?
[11:23:17] <jink> I'll try.
[11:23:20] <imeikas> yep
[11:23:36] <imeikas> sometimes it helps, but not always
[11:23:39] <imeikas> depends on the crash
[11:23:50] <imeikas> *cause
[11:24:32] <jink> Does -clean have documentation?  What it cleans, for example? :)
[11:24:47] <jink> I'm willing to do a manual cleanup, I'm just not sure what files I can or can't remove.
[11:26:19] <jink> imeikas: I'm afraid that didn't work.
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[11:30:03] <imeikas> darn
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[11:30:19] <jink> imeikas: Was that for me, or for the joining splitters? :)
[11:30:25] <imeikas> I don't know about the documentation, there might be something
[11:30:38] <imeikas> about the clean :)
[11:30:50] <jink> Thanks. :)
[11:30:52] <imeikas> *that was ...
[11:31:41] <jink> I think I'll just copy two workspace directories (my crashed one and a clean one) and do a diff -bqr as a starting point.
[11:31:46] <jink> Let's see where that gets me.
[11:32:02] <jink> If you have any brilliant ideas, don't hesitate to tell me, though. :P
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[11:34:07] <mstrl> Hello, I'm using Eclipse for PHP and i'd like to know if i can set for a directory to not be validated at all.
[11:35:36] <erdal> jink: try copying all plugin state folders (.metadata/.plugins) into your new ws
[11:35:44] <imeikas> I usually recreate a crashed workspace, quickest solution AFAIK
[11:35:55] <erdal> or just what you think will contain your settings ;-)
[11:36:11] <jink> erdal: "what you think" is probably where everything goes wrong. :P
[11:36:57] <erdal> good luck, though
[11:37:23] <jink> Thanks. :)
[11:37:37] <jink> I tried the error log, too, but I couldn't quite find out what's going on.
[11:37:55] <jink> I even reverted to a last-known good configuration, but that didn't work out, either.
[11:37:59] <jink> Oh well. :)
[11:38:07] <jink> I can always recreate later on.
[11:40:11] <jink> 91 plugins in the crashed workspace vs 20 plugins in the fresh copy.
[11:40:13] <jink> Hmmm. :/
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[11:55:43] <dimi_> hi, does anybody know why the XMLEditor-Example Plugin produces an "ERROR" when trying to open a file via "File>Open File..." ??
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[12:06:36] <Mutsch> MSG bfrog private massage test
[12:06:47] <jink> :)
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[12:11:45] <jink> Aargh. :(  In what file does Eclipse store what projects you have in the workspace?
[12:12:38] <jink> imeikas: erdal: I created a new workspace, copied pretty much everything from .mylyn and .plugins, and it all seems ok now, expect that I lost my projects. :P
[12:13:09] <imeikas> you have to import them
[12:14:06] <imeikas> "import existing projects" or something like that and make sure you copy to workspace flag is turned on, otherwise they will remain in their original location
[12:14:15] <jink> Sure. :)
[12:14:21] <jink> I don't want to copy them, though. :)
[12:14:40] <jink> I was just wondering why they're gone, even though I copied everything from my crashed workspace.
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[12:17:13] <erdal> jink: i would remove core.resources from .metadata/.plugins
[12:17:21] <erdal> and reimport the project
[12:17:42] <jink> I'll check it out.  Thanks.
[12:18:08] <dimi_> how can I edit the behaivior of the "Open File" Dialoge?
[12:18:10] <erdal> that will remove the history, either
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[13:44:03] <rcjsuen> sprink: Ubuntu's Eclipse in the repos is 3 years old.
[13:45:10] <rcjsuen> amruta: The 'Console' view can store multiple consoles. What are you trying to do aynway
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[14:00:16] <hopphopp1> is there any way in eclipse to select a node/leaf in an xml document and get the xpath to that element?
[14:06:36] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: SWT can't generate everything. os_custom.c is handwritten. It's pretty small on most platforms.
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[14:06:48] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: oic
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[14:12:03] <spud|work> hi
[14:12:22] <spud|work> im writing a pretty complex javascript application, and im finding that eclipse is folding some member functions and not others.
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[14:16:01] <spud|work> for example, it folds all internal menthods of the top function, but doesnt fold any internal methods of the bottom one, http://pastebay.com/56816
[14:17:18] <rcjsuen> spud|work: I suggest you file a bug then.
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[14:17:39] <spud|work> well my first thought is that i need to specially format my code to make it fold properly
[14:17:48] <spud|work> what makes you think it's a bug?
[14:18:51] <visik7> I have a little problem with eclipse after the m2eclipse plugin installation I can't uninstall plugins there is no more the menu entry http://skitch.com/visik7/nyxns/software-updates
[14:18:55] <visik7> how can I do ?
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[14:27:37] <erdal> how would i make use of the navigation commands (left, right) in the window's toolbar in my own views/editors?
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[14:30:50] <hopphopp1> is there any way in eclipse to select a element in an xml document and get the element's xpath? like right--click and "copy xpath to this element" or something like that?
[14:31:18] <rcjsuen> visik7: what eclipse version are you on?
[14:31:22] <visik7> 3.4
[14:31:29] <mstrl> Hello, I'm using Eclipse for PHP and i'd like to know if i can set for a folder to not be validated at all.
[14:31:33] <rcjsuen> hm dun really remember the 3.4 ui i'm afraid
[14:31:51] <visik7> nevermind I'm upgrading
[14:31:54] <rcjsuen> spud|work: I just assumed it was, based on your claim of "it folds the top but not the bottom" which implied there was an inconsistency.
[14:32:08] <rcjsuen> in 3.5 the uninstall option (if available) would be thru the about dialog's installation details
[14:32:11] <rcjsuen> i dunno where that was in 3.4
[14:32:26] <spud|work> it does seem like a bug
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[14:32:46] <spud|work> i thought maybe it was a common one with a known quick fix, and perhaps somebody here would know about it
[14:33:28] <visik7> rcjsuen: what it means if available ?
[14:33:54] <rcjsuen> visik7: well if you manually "inject" the plug-ins then the uninstall option will not be available because the system doesn't know about it, I believe
[14:34:14] <rcjsuen> visik7: Like on Windows/Linux if you install an app, you can uninstall it properly thru the system.
[14:34:21] <rcjsuen> visik7: but if you just unzip and double-click then the system doesn't know about it
[14:34:25] <rcjsuen> that's what i meant
[14:34:38] <visik7> rcjsuen: usually I use update sites
[14:42:17] <Elfish> anyone using sqlite?
[14:47:36] <Echidna> i have a scrolledform and within it a canvas of a varying size, how can i make the scrolledform actually scrollable when the canvas is larger?
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[14:49:38] <Echidna> ok i replaced "ScrolledForm -> Canvas" with "Form -> ScrolledComposite -> Canvas" and now it seems to work
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[14:50:46] <roaet> hi everyone. I have a framework that requires that I have org.eclipse.[...] projects open in my workspace. How do I get access to these projects? Or more so, how do I get read-access to the eclipse svn so I can grab them? Thanks.
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[14:51:41] <roaet> Specifically the org.eclipse.[core.commands,swt.win32.win32.x86,ui.forms] projects.
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[14:52:53] <krbarnes> roaet: here's how to get SWT http://eclipse.org/swt/cvs.php
[14:53:24] <krbarnes> the other projects are in the same cvs repository
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[14:53:47] <roaet> I see. I shall try.
[14:54:05] <roaet> Oh hey.
[14:54:14] <roaet> If I import from CVS.. that works.. ^_^
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[14:54:58] <krbarnes> roaet: yes. It's well tested :D
[14:55:16] <roaet> krbarnes: I <3 you
[14:56:14] * krbarnes blushes
[14:56:44] <roaet> I have been looking for the swt examples for months.
[14:57:05] <rcjsuen> the snippets are good enough for me usually
[14:57:09] <roaet> I have just never looked in the CVS repository! (I didn't think it'd be already set)
[14:57:46] <roaet> anyone use Novocode application framework? I'm noticing it requires swt.win32.win32.x86. That makes me wonder if it breaks cross-platformyness
[14:58:07] <rcjsuen> That is possible.
[14:58:14] <rcjsuen> Or they just did it wrong.
[14:58:58] <roaet> oh jebus... just grabbing those directories from cvs doesn't work... i guess i'd need a lot of other projects in cvs for it to build?
[14:59:06] <roaet> I have 16K errors now.
[14:59:24] <roaet> is it more proper to just checkout the whole tree?
[14:59:50] <rcjsuen> if you checked out stuff from HEAD
[14:59:57] <rcjsuen> then you'll probably get errors if your base Eclipse is not recent
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[15:04:45] <roaet> if I checkedout org.eclipse.swt will that grab all the other modules under it? such as org.eclipse.swt.carbon?
[15:05:05] <roaet> appears.. not. :(
[15:05:15] <rcjsuen> that's just a folder, org.eclipse.swt.carbon is not under org.eclipse.swt
[15:05:27] <rcjsuen> org.eclipse.swt is correct, you want that one
[15:05:53] <roaet> when I checked out eclipse.org.swt.win32.win32.x86, the world came to an end. I guess I don't check that one out?
[15:06:18] <rcjsuen> not anymore i don't think
[15:06:51] <rcjsuen> depends on what you're trying to do i guess
[15:07:24] <roaet> That Novocode Application Framework (NAF) thing requires that I have the org.eclipse.swt.win32.win32.x86 project in my workspace.
[15:07:41] <roaet> So I checked that out with hopes that it'd just magically work
[15:07:48] <roaet> (it didn't) :D
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[15:09:15] <rcjsuen> roaet: Can't you change its dependency to swt instead?
[15:09:49] <roaet> I wasn't quite sure if that'd work, but even then.. my org.eclipse.swt checkout produced tens of thousands of errors.
[15:10:01] <roaet> so it wouldn't be able to build either way.
[15:10:11] <rcjsuen> yeah there'll be errors if you don't do anything (setup classpath properly etc)
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[15:11:22] <roaet> Eek. I'll just... not use that framework.
[15:12:33] <roaet> Blargh. but it has all the spiffy things -_-
[15:13:39] <krbarnes> roaet: just rename the .classpath_win32 to .classpath in org.eclipse.swt
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[15:18:39] <jink> Can I, somehow, do a smart refactor / rename on a set of classes?  I want to rename all my *DAOImpl.java to *Dao.java (and, of course, update their source to reflect this).
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[15:24:15] <roaet> krbarnes: thanks I will try that.
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[15:26:50] <roaet> Is it difficult to emulate the detaching windows of eclipse?
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[15:34:47] <rcjsuen> roaet: Not terribly in my opinion.
[15:34:57] <erdal> roaet: you would need to create a new shell and reparent an existing root composite
[15:35:06] <roaet> Is it multple shells?
[15:35:13] <roaet> Ah... guess so
[15:35:14] <rcjsuen> roaet: Yes a DW is another shell.
[15:36:04] <erdal> what is a 'DW'?
[15:36:10] <roaet> detachable window?
[15:36:19] <erdal> oh
[15:36:22] <erdal> ok ;-)
[15:36:40] <roaet> erdal: I'm wondering about your last part of your statement, "reparent an existing root composite"
[15:37:05] <erdal> yourExistingComposite.setParent( yourNewShell );
[15:37:49] <erdal> i.e. the "contents" you want to detach
[15:37:55] <roaet> Ah. yes.
[15:38:32] <rcjsuen> ~api Control#setParent(Composite)
[15:38:32] <T-elos> Control#setParent - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/swt/widgets/Control.html#setParent(org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Composite)
[15:38:47] <erdal> but prepare for NullPointerExceptions ;-)
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[15:39:30] <roaet> erdal: ever use the NAF framework?
[15:39:49] <erdal> no, what is that?
[15:40:10] <roaet> It's just a framework that uses SWT that adds some more widgets.
[15:40:23] <erdal> do you have an url?
[15:40:24] <roaet> http://www.novocode.com/swt/
[15:40:44] <roaet> I'm beginning to think it is less good than it appears (I can't get it to compile)
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[15:41:23] <keya> Hello.  Can I filter out some text to be displayed in the process output console?
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[15:43:13] <rcjsuen> Doubt it. It just reads stdout/stderr of the launched process AFAIK.
[15:43:22] <erdal> "internal shell" aka MDI: i thought that kind of concept is outdated?
[15:44:46] <roaet> it appears so.
[15:45:41] <FauxFaux> The RST console implements enough of the shell stuff to do ncurses, btw, so the console widget is quite smrt.
[15:45:47] <FauxFaux> Assuming it uses the same console widget, anyway.
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[15:55:59] <roaet> i'm getting this error: when I try to run snippets? no swt-win32-3612 in java.library.path
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[15:56:30] <roaet> nevermind
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[15:56:34] <roaet> ignore that
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[16:17:32] <njdoyle> Does anyone know if there is a way to tell CDT to assume a C/C++ macro is defined. #ifdefs are greying out my code and breaking code completion and full syntax highlighting.
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[16:35:51] <stimpie> does someone know how to get the svn revision number and put it in the java code somewhere on each commit/update?
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[16:38:05] <Nirkus> hi! im trying to start eclipse cdt on ubuntu 8.04 LTS x86_64, it just exits with return code 13
[16:38:56] <Nirkus> logging: "java.lang.IllegalStateException: Unable to acquire application service. Ensure that the org.eclipse.core.runtime bundle is resolved and started (see config.ini).
[16:39:03] <Nirkus> any suggestions?
[16:39:57] <mauroC> Nirkus: are you using cdt from packages or eclipse.org?
[16:40:11] <Nirkus> eclipse.org
[16:40:28] <Nirkus> current release for linux x86_64 of eclipse cdt
[16:40:37] <rcjsuen> Nirkus: Name of tarball?
[16:40:48] <mauroC> Nirkus: check java
[16:41:01] <mauroC> not work with gnu java
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[16:41:13] <Nirkus> eclipse-cpp-galileo-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
[16:41:20] <rcjsuen> Nirkus: what is the full log like
[16:41:31] <Nirkus> mauroC: i installed sun-java6-jre and -jdk
[16:41:42] <mauroC> Nirkus: kk
[16:41:57] <Nirkus> rcjsuen: its the exception i posted with the associated invokation stack
[16:42:14] <rcjsuen> Nirkus: What i meant was, put it on a ~pastebin
[16:42:14] <T-elos> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[16:42:23] <Nirkus> rcjsuen: ok
[16:43:34] <rcjsuen> Installing doesn't mean you're using it btw, but anyway.
[16:43:46] <Nirkus> http://www.pastebin.cz/23164
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[16:44:23] <rcjsuen> Where did you untar
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[16:44:41] <Nirkus> in /opt
[16:45:05] <Nirkus> i chowned it to root:root and $user:$user .. no change
[16:45:17] <rcjsuen> try in ~/ I guess
[16:45:33] <rcjsuen> You may also want to verify the checksums.
[16:45:38] <Nirkus> currently, im trying in ~/eclipse/
[16:47:36] <Nirkus> i even tried rename the 'configuration' subdir and starting with--clean or -clean... it always exits with code 13
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[16:49:56] <dimi-b> does somebody know how I can change the behaivior of the "Open File" dialoge? (menu "File>Open File...")
[16:50:37] <m0> Hello, I really don't know what is wrong. I am creating a "Test" dynamic web project. And I created a Servlet (made sure the servlet mapping is correct) and it always states the following exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: web.Test
[16:51:18] <rcjsuen> dimi-b: I doubt that's possible. Why would you want to do that anyway? If you don't like it you'd probably have to rewrite your own version.
[16:51:19] <m0> I have been trying for the last 2 hours and I don' know what is wrong, I checked where my classes gets copied, and its still giving me that error. Is that a bug or something?
[16:51:56] <m0> I usually have no problem creating Servlets.
[16:53:51] <dimi-b> rcjsuen: because the XMLEditor-Example Plugin can't open files opened with that file dialoge, instead an "ERROR" Text is displayed within the editor... I tried to find the exception causing the error but I couldn't find it, and the stacktrace is empty
[16:54:10] <rcjsuen> dimi-b: add ~consolelog if you haven't already
[16:54:10] <T-elos> Writing an Eclipse-based application and can't find anything useful in your console and/or getting "Unhandled event loop exceptions"? Add -consoleLog as a 'Program Argument' to your launch configuration. See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_get_an_unhandled_event_loop_exception_in_my_console._What_gives.3F
[16:54:35] <rcjsuen> It's probably related to the document provider.
[16:54:37] <dimi-b> rcjsuen: allready added consolelog
[16:54:54] <rcjsuen> dimi-b: Then step through the code.
[16:55:38] <rcjsuen> could also override some methods with try/catch and see if you can print the stack trace directly
[16:56:27] <dimi-b> ok, i'll try it now
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[16:58:07] <m0> Is there a bug with recent Eclipse with web applications?
[16:58:16] <m0> I am always getting  "javax.servlet.ServletException: Wrapper cannot find servlet class web.Servlet or a class it depends on
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[17:00:51] <rcjsuen> dimi-b: I would try changing XMLDocumentProvider to extend TextFileDocumentProvider instead.
[17:02:21] <dimi-b> atm it's extending 'FileDocumentProvider' ... wait I change it to TextFileDocumentProvider
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[17:04:50] <rcjsuen> Nirkus: Did you verify the checksums?
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[17:11:55] <jink> Hmmm, in "Switch to Editor" the "Save selected editors" button deselects the selected editors when it's done. :(
[17:12:38] <jink> Not quite a bug, I suppose, but a nuisance nonetheless. ;)
[17:13:06] <Nirkus> gnar... after installing ubuntus eclipse-cdt package with a dozen dependencies, the untared current one starts up
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[17:13:27] <rcjsuen> jink: File a bug if it bothers you.
[17:13:36] <Nirkus> but.. ubuntu switched to gcj by installing the eclipse-cdt ubuntu package
[17:13:38] <Nirkus> oO
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[17:14:54] <amruta> hi..does anyone know how to add context menu on all editors in eclipse
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[17:15:14] <mauroC> Nirkus: ubuntu eclipse package is based on 3.2 platform
[17:15:33] <Nirkus> mauroC: i know
[17:16:57] <amruta> hi..does anyone know how to add context menu on all editors in eclips
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[17:22:43] <dilton> on RHEL4 the Slider widget always return SWT.NONE when the arrows are clicked? http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.swt.snippets/src/org/eclipse/swt/snippets/Snippet17.java?view=co
[17:23:56] <dilton> It works on Ubuntu 9.04
[17:24:30] <dilton> could this be a GTK bug or SWT bug?
[17:24:40] <rcjsuen> dilton: hard to say, either or
[17:26:43] <rcjsuen> dilton: if it's the same SWT version on both then it's probably a GTK+ discrepancy
[17:27:09] <rcjsuen> of course, in that case i'm assuming there is a GTK+ version difference between the two
[17:27:23] <rcjsuen> you could possibly file a bug requesting that SWT "fake" those events, if that is the case
[17:28:22] <dilton> rcjsuen: yep I exported a Runnable Jar and used the same Jar on both, and yep I'm sure GTK is newer on Ubuntu. I like the "fake" events idea, let me dig a bit more thanks
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[17:31:12] <amruta> hi..does anyone know how to add context menu action on all editors in eclipse at a time...
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[17:37:31] <jink> Suppose I have a table named mytable and instead of the autogenerated Mytable, I want to name it MyTable (not the different casing).  How would I do that?  Google fails me (that is to say, I'm not sure what to Google for, and several tries didn't get me what I want).
[17:38:14] <jink> I'm using hibernate-tools to generate my pojos and daos.
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[17:38:48] <jink> Great.  E_CHAN.
[17:38:49] <jink> .... :S
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[17:44:09] <kaje> If I am building an RCP application what should I make my target, RCP Runtime Binary or RCP SDK?
[17:45:32] <kaje> NM, just figured out where on the site it explains this.
[17:45:34] <rcjsuen> Probably the latter for the source.
[17:45:54] <dimi-b> seems like extending TextFileDocumentProvider is not the right solution...
[17:46:26] <rcjsuen> dimi-b: Did the editor open?
[17:46:44] <dimi-b> no
[17:47:04] <rcjsuen> dimi-b: Same error?
[17:47:40] <dimi-b> yes, I think I try to rewrite the standart DocProvider
[17:48:03] <dimi-b> of the example editor
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[17:50:05] <dimi-b> when I open a file via "File > Open File...", then how can I grab the content of the file with my document provider?
[17:50:16] <rcjsuen> Changing it (to TFDP) worked for me.
[17:50:34] <rcjsuen> I mean, I don't get the error anymore.
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[17:52:22] <dimi-b> hm... but didn't you have to rewrite some methods, because the example provider calls some methods only avaible in FDP extending StorageDocumentProvider
[17:53:02] <rcjsuen> dimi-b: I just commented the whole method to test it.
[17:53:27] <dimi-b> ok, new try :D one moment please...
[17:53:53] <rcjsuen> dimi-b: What did you try to do?
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[17:56:02] <dimi-b> changing FDP to TFDP and implement the called super.createDocument(element) method customizing some code
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[17:57:22] <dimi-b> (maybe because I am very new to eclipse plugin development :/ )
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[18:10:54] <NoobFukaure> I'm getting "ClassNotFoundExceptions" for the Activator when equinox attempts to start the bundle "randomly" during development for some of my bundles
[18:11:02] <NoobFukaure> http://chris-alex-thomas.com/blog/2007/07/17/eclipse-activator-class-is-invalid/
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[18:11:06] <NoobFukaure> I found this but the changes don't help
[18:11:18] <NoobFukaure> the last time I had this problem, I backed up the files, deleted the bundle and recreated it
[18:11:22] <NoobFukaure> that made the bundle work again
[18:11:25] <NoobFukaure> but I'd rather solve the problem
[18:12:13] <rcjsuen> what do you mean "randomly"
[18:12:38] <NoobFukaure> well it's happened for the second time now
[18:12:49] <NoobFukaure> but I'm not sure what I'm bungling to cause it to happen
[18:13:08] <rcjsuen> so randomly was in reference to "I have no idea why I am getting this error"
[18:13:17] <NoobFukaure> yeah, sorry
[18:13:25] <rcjsuen> not "I have a loop running with pseudorandom seconds and I tell OSGi to activate my bundle at these timed intervals"
[18:13:27] <NoobFukaure> I don't mean I'm doing anything randomly inside osgi
[18:13:31] <NoobFukaure> right, haha ;)
[18:14:09] <rcjsuen> this is after you exported your stuff and trying from the CLI?
[18:14:10] <NoobFukaure> besides adding the . and src folder to the runtime options of the build.properties file, what else could cause this issue?
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[18:14:33] <NoobFukaure> I'm running equinox from the builtin osgi launcher and the bundle is included and starts by default
[18:14:50] <rcjsuen> so it's within your development instance and you have no exported jars
[18:15:11] <NoobFukaure> right
[18:15:49] <rcjsuen> what is the full log + MANIFEST.MF + build.propertieS?
[18:17:58] <NoobFukaure> http://lwjgl.pastebin.com/m23acc25c
[18:17:58] <NoobFukaure> http://lwjgl.pastebin.com/m53be7fd6
[18:17:58] <NoobFukaure> http://lwjgl.pastebin.com/m52001029
[18:18:06] <NoobFukaure> what I'm doing is breaking our engine apart
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[18:18:24] <NoobFukaure> originally the library had it's own service lifecycle management api, etc
[18:18:40] <NoobFukaure> but when we integrated it into eclipse, I just chunked the whole engine as a giant bundle that exports the apis
[18:18:44] <NoobFukaure> that worked out okay
[18:19:10] <NoobFukaure> but I've been working on splitting it up into proper osgi bundles and making everything more modular and invented less code
[18:19:25] <NoobFukaure> so I've been moving things like our service messaging system to the wire admin service, etc
[18:19:40] <NoobFukaure> it's going okay so far but these errors are driving me crazy because they're kind of incidental ;)
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[18:20:08] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: add >> output.. = bin/ >> to build.props
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[18:20:45] <NoobFukaure> same deal
[18:20:49] <NoobFukaure> same error
[18:21:06] <NoobFukaure> I added tried it at the top and the bottom too
[18:21:10] <NoobFukaure> obviously one at a time
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[18:21:12] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: Bundle-ClassPath: lib/
[18:21:17] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: Bundle-ClassPath: ., lib/
[18:21:50] <NoobFukaure> that fixed it! thanks
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[18:22:12] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: I presume you can deduce the cause.
[18:23:19] <NoobFukaure> Well I understand in a way
[18:23:25] <dimi-b> rcjsuen: I changed FDP to TFDP and changed createDocument() to getDocument(), now die open file dialoge is working properly... but syntax coloring/highlighting is gone, I'll work on it
[18:23:28] <NoobFukaure> but what significance does . have in this situation?
[18:23:37] <dimi-b> thanks to you rcjsuen ;)
[18:23:38] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: bundle root
[18:23:39] <NoobFukaure> Because I don't have any packages directly in the root of the project
[18:23:49] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: the build.properties pointing to bin/, PDE will take care of that
[18:23:56] <NoobFukaure> oh ok
[18:23:57] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: Is how I understand the system.
[18:24:11] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: Alternatively delete the build.properties line and see what happens.
[18:24:19] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: it may still work, but when you _export_ it probably won't imo
[18:24:38] <Elfish> anyone knows how to install new header files in mingw? :x i tried to install sqlite but once i trie to compile stuff it says sqlite3.h not found :x
[18:24:46] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: Please comment on that blog entry and share your solution there [with the rest of the Internet] if you have the time. Thanks. :)
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[18:26:42] <rcjsuen> dimi-b: try http://pastebin.ca/1578043
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[18:30:08] <NoobFukaure> I posted that solution, I mentioned you helped me rcjsuen (I hope you don't mind) :)
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[18:30:35] <atoi|working> is the "facet" stuff which allows projects to be treated as "Web Projects" only available in 3.5?
[18:30:49] <atoi|working> my co-worker has it on his 3.5 install, but I don't see it in my 3.4 install.
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[18:32:00] <mefisto> hi peeps
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[18:32:19] <mefisto> is there some plugin in Eclipse , which lets you save different sets of opened files
[18:32:25] <mefisto> like Saved Session in Opera
[18:32:30] <mefisto> ?
[18:33:34] <rcjsuen> atoi|working: pretty sure it's been there for two or three years at elast
[18:33:47] <rcjsuen> mefisto: mylyn kinda does that i suppose, based on your task context
[18:33:56] <keya> Hi.  If I have a CompilationUnit (Web Tools) can anyone tell me how can I get all the members of it?  The ASTParser removes comments so I don't want to use that.
[18:34:15] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: doesn't really matter to me :)
[18:34:56] <mefisto> rcjsuen, will it work with aptana ?
[18:35:05] <atoi|working> huh, really? weird. I installed the plugin for jeTTY from http://www.webtide.com/eclipse ... installed jeTTY from the webtide site... set up a Server -> Runtime Environment to point to my jeTTY install, but I still have no option to run my project on jeTTY and when I go to the "Properties" for the project, I find nothing when I search for "facet"
[18:35:52] <rcjsuen> atoi|working: well the concept has been there, i don't know what it's like in the UI, i don't do java ee stuff in general
[18:36:01] <rcjsuen> the UI presentation may have evolved
[18:36:01] <atoi|working> AH.
[18:36:17] <rcjsuen> mefisto: not sure about that depends what version of Eclipse Aptana targets i guess
[18:37:37] <dimi-b> rcjsuen: worked ;)
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[18:41:16] <dimi-b> trying to look for some other examples I installed "Eclipse SDK Examples" and the Example Sources... so I tried to import the example projects but eclipse tell me "No projects are found to import". Well... I just did what the eclipse documentation suggested
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[19:09:30] <roaet> I have a Composite whose parent is the shell. If I wanted a Sash control within the composite.. i'd just make a new sash with the composite as the parent right? They don't seem to show up unless the parent is the shell.
[19:10:31] <dassouki> eclipse hangsup when i start it
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[19:12:50] <paulweb515> roaet: does your composite have a layout?
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[19:19:46] <rcjsuen> dassouki: What do you mean "hangsup"
[19:21:41] <dassouki> if i'm not connected to the internet
[19:21:45] <dassouki> and open eclipse
[19:21:57] <dassouki> it just freezes, gets greyued down and gnome wants to force quit it
[19:22:06] <rcjsuen> "gnome wants to force quit it"?
[19:22:31] <rcjsuen> does the splash screen come up? more ~info may help
[19:22:31] <T-elos> Please state a) your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), b) operating system (Windows, Linux, OSX, etc.), c) your Java runtime environment (please verify by checking your ~logs or in the about dialog's ~jre section. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), d) your Eclipse version, and e) where did you get Eclipse from (eclipse.org, distro repository, etc.).
[19:22:45] <dassouki> rcjsuen: it's usually after it builds the workspace
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[19:23:00] <dassouki> ubuntu 9,04 .. granemede
[19:24:46] <rcjsuen> get a thread dump when it happens i suppose, ~deadlock
[19:24:47] <T-elos> In a deadlock? http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/How_to_report_a_deadlock
[19:24:56] <roaet> paulweb515: I gave it the fillLayout
[19:26:11] <dassouki> thanks
[19:26:43] <rcjsuen> roaet: I would expect the sash to take all the space then. Though I'm not sure why you'd want to use an FL with a sash.
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[19:27:11] <roaet> rcjsuen: I just don't think I understand much about the composite and its relationship to the sash..
[19:27:30] <roaet> rcjsuen: should the objects the sash is dividing be children of the sash?
[19:27:42] <rcjsuen> i didn't even think a Sash could have children.
[19:27:50] <rcjsuen> Sash is not even a Composite.
[19:27:53] <rcjsuen> Unless you mean SashForm.
[19:27:58] <roaet> rcjsuen: I think i'm n...
[19:28:03] <roaet> rcjsuen: yes.. sashform
[19:28:06] <rcjsuen> I suggest you just copy/paste ~snippets
[19:28:06] <T-elos> SWT Snippets - http://www.eclipse.org/swt/snippets/ - JFace Snippets - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/JFaceSnippets
[19:28:43] <roaet> rcjsuen: Err. But the snippet doesn't have the sashform in something else.
[19:29:02] <roaet> rcjsuen: when I put the sashform in the 'shell' it works fine.
[19:29:13] <rcjsuen> roaet: Then your code is wrong I would say.
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[19:29:44] <roaet> rcjsuen: I agree complete.
[19:29:46] <roaet> ly
[19:29:57] <roaet> I was looking at the wrong snippet.. sorry for wasting your time.
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[19:31:02] <rcjsuen> as long as you resolve your problem
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[19:36:20] <mefisto> how can i uninstall plugins in eclipse3.5 ?
[19:37:18] <roaet> rcjsuen: mmm. ok now I think the code is proper but I am misunderstanding how the shell's formlayout changes things within the composite.
[19:37:35] <rcjsuen> Personally I use FormLayout maybe 1% of the time.
[19:37:47] <roaet> rcjsuen: Ah, is there a better method?
[19:37:47] <rcjsuen> mefisto: help > about > installation details
[19:37:55] <rcjsuen> roaet: depends on what you're trying to achieve
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[19:41:15] <roaet> rcjsuen: mind telling me if I'm just doing it completely wrong?: http://pastebin.com/d675daa09
[19:41:41] <rcjsuen> what's wrong right now anyway
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[19:43:14] <roaet> everything is showing up and the composite the sash is in shows up nicely, but the sash doesn't render.
[19:43:37] <rcjsuen> I haven't dealt with FormLayout in 2.5 years so it's hard for me to gauge what's going on here.
[19:44:12] <roaet> I can think of a slew of reasons but I'm not sure if any are correct. After I change the FormData of the 'composite'  do I have to update/redraw the contents? Maybe the sash has no value on width or height. I just don't know where to start.
[19:44:12] <rcjsuen> looks okay otherwise
[19:44:32] <rcjsuen> btw you need to dispose your Colors
[19:44:37] <roaet> oh
[19:44:39] <roaet> thank you
[19:44:39] <rcjsuen> when you're done with them or you'll have a resource leak
[19:45:12] <roaet> rcjsuen: if I set the background of the shell to a color do I dispose that ?
[19:45:25] <rcjsuen> if you manually do new Color(...)
[19:45:27] <rcjsuen> you need to dispose
[19:45:31] <roaet> or in this case, the composite.
[19:46:17] <roaet> got it. thank you. is there a list of things I need to dispose?
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[19:46:54] <rcjsuen> ~api Resource
[19:46:54] <T-elos> org.eclipse.swt.graphics.Resource - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/swt/graphics/Resource.html
[19:47:38] <roaet> excellent
[19:47:40] <roaet> Thank you.
[19:47:52] <roaet> When you create applications, instead of using FormLayout, which do you find preferable?
[19:48:26] <rcjsuen> Grid 95%, Stack 4%, 1% others I guess
[19:48:45] <rcjsuen> tho maybe more close to Grid 98 Stack 1 others 1
[19:48:56] <rcjsuen> I like Fill too
[19:49:10] <roaet> curious.. I am just trying to create a 'toolbar','body','status bar' layout...
[19:49:13] <roaet> Is form overkill?
[19:50:17] <rcjsuen> I'm pretty sure I could do the same without FormLayout.
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[19:52:09] <roaet> Is there any requirement to update children if you update the parent's layout?
[19:52:57] <rcjsuen> update the children's what?
[19:53:08] <rcjsuen> i guess if you change the layout you should call layout()
[19:53:26] <roaet> layout.. yeah the layout.
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[19:55:25] <toulmean> hey
[19:55:52] <toulmean> I'm trying to assemble an Eclipse product and I get those enigmatic entries in the log
[19:56:07] <toulmean> Error Processing: org.eclipse.equinox.internal.provisional.p2.directorywatcher.RepositoryListener@4dabb72: java.lang.NullPointerException
[19:56:14] <toulmean> just this line 6 times.
[19:56:20] <toulmean> any time what that means
[19:56:21] <toulmean> ?
[19:57:03] <NoobFukaure> paulweb515: thanks paul, I found your extension registry code and have gotten things going pretty smoothly :)
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[19:57:28] <NoobFukaure> It's funny, I assumed there would be more to the extension registry, I didn't realize how simple the framework was
[19:57:58] <NoobFukaure> I've written extensions before but I didn't know what was going on under the covers
[20:00:05] <rcjsuen> roaet: So what does your app look like right now (I mean a screenshot)
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[20:03:13] <bakarat> quick question: when you select a word, eclipse highlights other occurrences of that word in the current page. the front color used in said highlighting, where can i set it? i currently have a rather dark background with light font color, but the highlighting is in near white, making it unreadable
[20:03:27] <bakarat> i've gone through the "color" settings in the properties at length but can't find it
[20:03:30] <rcjsuen> bakarat: that's in the prefs (if available), in the annotations
[20:04:25] <bakarat> rcjsuen, you are a life saver :p
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[20:12:40] <NoobFukaure> Is it a bad idea to use the eclipse plugin framework to register osgi services?
[20:12:57] <NoobFukaure> There are declarative services for OSGi which is similar
[20:13:02] <NoobFukaure> in that you can do IoC type stuff
[20:13:13] <NoobFukaure> previously our engine used spring for this type of work, with a custom service api
[20:13:36] <NoobFukaure> Is it real bad form to use the eclipse plugin stuff for service registration or just unorthodox?
[20:15:10] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaure: I'm not sure I understand the problem here. A bundle gets started, it registers itself as a service so others can use it. I don't necessarily see what's "wrong" about this.
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[20:29:22] <NoobFukaure> rcjsuen: I misunderstood the scope of the declarative services, I have to do more research
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[20:36:07] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: there is some aspect of DI in the DS framework, and it's available to OSGi apps and Eclipse apps alike
[20:36:22] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: but I haven't had a chance to look at it myself
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[20:43:45] <lord49> hi, im new to eclipse and stuff, i instaled galileo and then jigloo, it seems that swt is not there, at leat i cant see the jar in plugins
[20:44:05] <rcjsuen> lord49: if you can start Eclipse you have SWT running/working to some capacity, if not completely
[20:46:18] <lord49> org.eclipse.swt_3.5.0.v3550b.jar i found this now :) but i get errors with import org.eclipse.swt.SWT;
[20:47:17] <lord49> The import org.eclipse cannot be resolved
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[20:48:23] <lord49> i installed eclipse in the desktop maybe this can be wrong?
[20:48:30] <kaje> I need to add additional plugins to my target. How do I know if the plugins are platform specific? In other words, how can I be sure that this plugin I'm about to add is safe to use on all supported platforms?
[20:49:38] <lord49> import java.awt.BorderLayout; i dont get error with this but i get with org.eclipse
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[20:55:00] <lord49> i copied eclipse to the c: but i still get the same error
[20:57:46] <NoobFukaure> I'm using osgi ds and I need to set a property of a type Class[] but it seems like simple types are only accepted with ds?
[20:57:54] <NoobFukaure> like String, integers, etc
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[21:07:24] <lord49> import org.eclipse.swt.SWT; i get The import org.eclipse cannot be resolved
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[21:13:10] <NoobFukaure> ah, ComponentFactory
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[21:21:48] <jdolan> hi, i'm having a real hard time updating anything within Galileo.
[21:22:02] <jdolan> all of the updates i try to install fail.  as if the repositories are missing some archives.
[21:22:16] <jdolan> (e.g. WST, Subversive, ..)
[21:22:17] <roaet> rcjsuen: i figured out the problem... the composite had no height so the sash was not showing up (because nothing was)
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[21:25:11] <jdolan> anyone else running into problems trying to install plugins and things?
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[21:30:26] <NoobFukaure> njbartlett_: Would you happen to know the correct way to pass something like a Class[] object to a Declarative Service?
[21:30:37] <NoobFukaure> as a property that is
[21:31:15] <roaet> What is the name of the 'widget' that combines tree with datagrid?
[21:31:56] <njbartlett_> NoobFukaure: Let me guess, are you trying to use Wire Admin with DS?
[21:32:02] <NoobFukaure> haha, yep ;)
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[21:32:10] <roaet> Answer to my own question: http://www.eclipse.org/nebula/widgets/grid/grid.php
[21:32:20] <njbartlett_> NoobFukaure: Thought so. Sadly it's not possible. This is a known limitation.
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[21:32:32] <NoobFukaure> ah ok, thanks for the info
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[21:44:43] <mefisto> hi
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[21:45:32] <mefisto> is there a way to choos the perspective by adding parameters to launch command
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[21:46:12] <mefisto> like :   eclipse.exe -view javaee    orr   eclipse -view aptana ,  or eclipse -view pdt
[21:46:15] <mefisto> ?
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[21:53:30] <rcjsuen> kaje: You'd have to test to be sure. It's not really possible to guarantee that a bundle is cross-platform. You could check its MANIFEST for any platform filters for starters.
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[21:54:04] <rcjsuen> mefisto: there's an argument -perspective or -perspectiveId or something like that, check the documentation for launchers
[21:54:16] <rcjsuen> lord49: did you add the swt win32 jar?
[21:54:26] <rcjsuen> or linux, or mac, or whatever you're using
[21:54:33] <mefisto> tnx
[21:54:40] <mefisto> so it can be done
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[21:57:56] <kaje> Thanks for the tip!
[21:59:45] <rcjsuen> kaje: For any bundle that's filled with class files, I guess you'd just assume that a) it's cross-platform, abiding by the Java promise, and b) that they're not doing anything stupid like new File("C:\") ;)
[22:00:54] <glima> rcjsuen: ty for answering that day, i got that done
[22:01:22] <glima> rcjsuen: have you got any experience with cdt-derived plugins!
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[22:01:27] <glima> s/!/?
[22:01:33] <rcjsuen> glima: I don't even use CDT, so no, not really.
[22:01:40] <glima> rcjsuen: mm, ok
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[22:03:35] <charley> glima: I have a little experience... what's wrong?
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[22:03:58] <rniamo7> hi
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[22:04:25] <rniamo7> i would like to open a maven project under eclipse 3.5 but i didn't succeed to install the plugin
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[22:10:06] <mattt_> I'm just getting started with 3.5 and am trying to install GWT packages and subversive, but Eclipse wants to install scores of other packages - stuff related to Data Tools Platform, JST, Mylyn, WST, RSE, and a variety of other things.  (I downloaded the Eclipse IDE for Java EE Devs)
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[22:10:42] <rcjsuen> technically, (at least) Mylyn and WST should be in the Java EE build.
[22:11:50] <mattt_> :/
[22:12:11] <d_a_carver> mattt_: depending on version dependencies, some other stuff may need to be updated as well.
[22:12:48] <mattt_> Hm, I'm looking at the details of the EE package - it doesn't list all the things I'm seeing here.
[22:13:04] <mattt_> seems a little excessive :/
[22:14:28] <mattt_> Who says Mylyn is essential ^_^
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[22:15:15] <rcjsuen> mattt_: ?
[22:15:30] <rcjsuen> mattt_: Is that claim made somewhere at eclipse.org?
[22:15:34] <mattt_> Heh, it's listed in the "basic" Eclipse download package as an essential :P
[22:15:51] <mattt_> Eclipse IDE for Java Devs: "The essential tools for any Java developer, including a Java IDE, a CVS client, XML Editor and Mylyn."
[22:16:25] <rcjsuen> ah
[22:16:38] <rcjsuen> i guess you could say  only the first one is essential
[22:16:55] <mattt_> a Java Developer?
[22:17:21] <mattt_> not really... bahah
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[22:17:58] <rcjsuen> well sure I could use Notepad if push comes to shove, my productivity wouldn't be very high though
[22:18:15] <rcjsuen> if you want to use Notepad, feel free, don't let us stop you
[22:18:38] <mattt_> heh, I think you misunderstood me :)
[22:19:25] <mattt_> see, now the installation process quits on an error because no repositories could be found for half the packages to be installed
[22:20:42] <glima> charley: i have defined new templateProcessTypes
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[22:21:18] <glima> charley: their processRunner points to the implementing classes fine (whole package namespaces)
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[22:22:18] <glima> charley: when accessing them in the actual template.xml, i could reference them (process type) by the plugin's package prefix + the processes' final names
[22:22:21] <mattt_> http://www.digitalsanctuary.com/tech-blog/general/no-repository-found-containing-error-when-update-eclipse.html >:E
[22:22:51] <glima> charley: but that just works when running the plugin "live", from inside eclipse
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[22:23:12] <jykelly> mattt_, thanks I needed that.
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[22:23:27] <glima> if i generate a plugin bundle and use it inside a fresh new eclipse tree, it gives me "Unknown process: blah..."
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[22:24:27] <glima> charley: any clues on where i'm doing wrong?
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[22:25:17] <Guest58351> is there a way to customize code folding?  (ie: can I fold any thing I select?)
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[22:25:29] <jangell> Is there a keyboard shortcut to redisplay function usage if you do something and the window drops away?
[22:27:14] <charley> glima: :( I haven't played with templateProcessTypes myself... do you mean that when you attempt to export your plugin it no longer works?
[22:27:14] <d_a_carver> jangell: try http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_What_editor_keyboard_shortcuts_are_available%3F
[22:27:23] <glima> charley: exactly
[22:28:08] <charley> The only thing I can think of is maybe not all the dependencies are being exported? Do you export other required plugins or does your fresh eclipse tree have cdt installed?
[22:28:24] <d_a_carver> jangell: there is also a javadoc view you can activate
[22:28:46] <rcjsuen> glima: Nothing in the logs?
[22:29:10] <glima> charley: it has cdt... i'll see what i can get from logs
[22:29:20] <glima> rcjsuen: is it the .metadata/.log file?
[22:29:30] <rcjsuen> Yes, that one.
[22:29:33] <glima> ok
[22:29:38] <rcjsuen> Could check the console also.
[22:30:07] <glima> rcjsuen: ok, but i guess it outputs nothing (console)
[22:31:31] <jykelly> I get this error when trying to install the Android Plugin, in Eclipse: http://tinypic.com/r/16ia845/4 ... I didn't have this problem a few days ago (have since done a reinstall of vista). Anyone familiar with what that all indicates?
[22:31:33] <mattt_> jykelly: is it workin' for you?
[22:31:41] <jykelly> mattt_, nope.
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[22:31:50] <mattt_> argh.
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[22:35:02] <glima> rcjsuen, charley: ok, i think its my bad (thanks for the log suggestion): ClassNotFoundException for my Activator class
[22:35:09] <rcjsuen> lol
[22:35:12] <rcjsuen> :o
[22:36:00] <glima> gotta know why eclipse skips it when running the plugin "live", hhe
[22:36:56] <charley> glima: :)
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[22:40:09] <glima> charley, rcjsuen: ty :)
[22:40:26] <NoobFukaure> sounds familiar, haha
[22:40:48] <NoobFukaure> glima: http://chris-alex-thomas.com/blog/2007/07/17/eclipse-activator-class-is-invalid/
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[22:43:36] <glima> NoobFukaure: oh, nice :)
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[22:46:40] <glima> NoobFukaure: unfortunately that is not the problem here
[22:46:49] <NoobFukaure> did you see the comment at the bottom?
[22:47:11] <mattt_> will deleting the p2 directory cause problems, or will it just get recreated?
[22:47:41] <rcjsuen> I would guess the former.
[22:49:15] <glima> NoobFukaure: yes, but they don't apply either
[22:49:22] <NoobFukaure> oh bummer :(
[22:50:04] <mattt_> is this problem with busted update sites not rampant for 3.5 installations?
[22:51:12] <jykelly> I consider two of us = rampant/chaos/armageddon
[22:52:12] <mattt_> there's gonna be some armageddon if I don't get this solved soon
[22:52:47] <rcjsuen> You could try asking in #android. I don't think I heard many update site complaints today or yesterday.
[22:52:56] <mattt_> now I'm getting a 'Transfer Exception' when I try and list software at a particular repository
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[22:54:14] <glima> NoobFukaure: at the Build Configuration tab, is it necessary to include .classpath into the Binary Build tree?
[22:54:37] <NoobFukaure> I don't believe so
[22:54:47] <NoobFukaure> that's what eclipse uses to keep track of a project's classpath
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[22:55:47] <glima> NoobFukaure: ok
[22:58:00] <glima> NoobFukaure: could you take a look at  http://pastebin.com/d100669fa, please?
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[23:08:54] <glima> charley: ^ :)
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[23:13:31] <charley> glima: I'm hardly an expert, but I know I've had a similar error (line 157 in AbstractBundle) when I was playing with extensions with an invalid class... is your Activator (most likely a class extending AbstractUIPlugin) inside package company.plugin.common and called Activator?
[23:15:24] <charley> I guess the easiest way to check the above is to see if your Manifest has any warnings about not being able to find the Bundle-Activator
[23:16:07] <NoobFukaure> yeah it looks like it's not being compiled due to dependency (classpath) issues
[23:16:37] <glima> charley: it hasn't :(
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[23:17:52] <glima> charley: Bundle-Activator: company.plugin.common.Activator is the line at the manifest
[23:18:19] <glima> and it links okay when i click over the link at the overview tab
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[23:19:48] <charley> and your exported plugin(s) includes whichever plugin has the Activator?
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[23:21:29] <glima> charley: yes, the Activator.class is inside the generated jar
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[23:27:14] <charley> glima: sorry, I'm not sure what else to double-check :( good luck
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[23:32:26] <kaje> I'm getting a "No application id has been found." error when I try to run my RCP application.
[23:32:42] <kaje> There are also some warning that some bundles are not able to be resolved
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[23:32:59] <kaje> How can I fix these errors?
[23:36:08] <glima> charley: thanks for the help
[23:36:44] <charley> glima: np, I didn't do much, unfortunately :(
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[23:37:21] <Sna4x8> I can't open files with Eclipse.  They open with my default editor.
[23:37:35] <rcjsuen> glima: what are the contents in your jar? jar -tf
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[23:38:14] <rcjsuen> dilton: I saw your post on swt forum. I suggest you provide your GTK+ versions of rhel + ubuntu.
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[23:39:36] <kaje> I'm getting a "No application id has been found." error. Can someone take a look at this Session trace and see if they can spot the problem: http://pastebin.com/d2f719fc5
[23:39:41] <kaje> Thanks ahead of time =).
[23:40:04] <rcjsuen> dilton: oh i see you filed a bug too
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[23:40:41] <dilton> rcjsuen: thanks, the post dind't have it but I filed this bug based on your recommendation https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=290459 dang you're faster than me
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[23:40:48] <glima> rcjsuen: http://pastebin.com/d2d82709c
[23:41:17] <rcjsuen> glima: What does your manifest.mf file look like
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[23:43:27] <glima> rcjsuen:  http://pastebin.com/d51268067
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[23:45:05] <rcjsuen> glima: Looks like you have a similar problem to NoobFukaire.
[23:45:48] <glima> rcjsuen: can you enlighten me? :)
[23:46:02] <rcjsuen> glima: Try >>>>  Bundle-ClassPath: . >>> instead.
[23:46:06] <rcjsuen> Yes, that's a period/dot.
[23:47:04] <glima> rcjsuen: mmm, lemme see
[23:48:00] <|kesselhaus|> hmm, what a nonsense with that Update/Install Software... was someone here ever able to update?
[23:48:08] <glima> rcjsuen: i remember it giving similar issues for insite testing with this "." classpath
[23:48:13] <glima> but let me try
[23:48:32] <ralf_e> is there a way to make the wtp xml editor accept accept additional namespaces in a html document? if i declare one, it complains that the attribute "xmlns:test" must be declared for element type "html"...
[23:48:36] <rcjsuen> |kesselhaus|: Update what exactly now?
[23:48:59] <|kesselhaus|> update installed eclipse and plugins
[23:49:21] <rcjsuen> |kesselhaus|: What are you on? 3.4?
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[23:49:39] <|kesselhaus|> eclipse 3.5 it tells me, that there are two version then installed and it can only be one installed
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[23:51:00] <glima> rcjsuen: no luck :(
[23:51:22] <|kesselhaus|> it shows me both versions, but cannot replace the old with the new. but one could open the "Already installed Software" and deinstall it, and then install later, but then, i could just reinstall from scratch
[23:52:31] <rcjsuen> glima: Why are your source files included in the jar anyway
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[23:54:41] <black_13> can eclipse generate ant build files?
[23:54:51] <justin_> Hello I have a problem I don't kniw which eclipse to download
[23:55:06] <rcjsuen> black_13: the export wizard can gen one i think
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[23:55:44] <justin_> I want to do PHP, so I downloaded the PHP one, I want to do Mobile Apps (android) so I downloade the J2EE one two
[23:56:03] <glima> rcjsuen: i just checked the include src option while packaging
[23:56:05] <glima> must be that
[23:56:09] <rcjsuen> o
[23:56:30] <justin_> So, what if i want to plain old java our something else am I going to have to download a version of eclippse for that
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[23:56:46] <rcjsuen> justin_: Java EE one provides support for Java.
[23:56:51] <rcjsuen> as you might've imagined
[23:57:37] <|kesselhaus|> justin_: why not just use the classic or platform and install just the wanted plugins?
[23:57:41] <justin_> Yeah do I have to download all three I already have the php verrsion and the j2ee one .. not too much GB's left....
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[23:58:08] <black_13> rcjsuen, ill try that
[23:58:09] <justin_> because im not familiar with what plugin I need and didnt know i could do that
[23:58:43] <rcjsuen> black_13: I've done some Ant, not a lot. Why do you ask?
[23:58:55] <rcjsuen> justin_: Well you learn something new every day.
[23:58:57] <|kesselhaus|> justin_: after unpacking one, start eclipse, go to help->"Install Software" and select what you still need
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[23:59:51] <black_13> rcjsuen, i want to know how to use the jars install in the /usr/share/java
[23:59:58] <kaje> Someone please help with this error: http://pastebin.com/d420d84bd    I just don't understand what it is complaining about.

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