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[00:31:59] <fatalnix> Is there any reason why whenever I try and install the PDT sdk Galileo goes into an infinate loop, telling me that the install is blocked?
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[00:32:17] <fatalnix> I've even tried it as root
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[00:33:34] <rcjsuen> Can't say I've heard of that one.
[00:34:18] <rcjsuen> fatalnix: So it keeps telling you it's blocked, over and over again?
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[00:34:33] <fatalnix> its strange, it gets to about 75% then the progress bar goes backwards a little bit, moves back forward, and repeats over and over saying install blocks, waiting for something...
[00:34:56] <rcjsuen> Maybe a bad mirror or something.
[00:35:02] <fatalnix> its
[00:35:08] <rcjsuen> You could just get the php download and try that I suppose.
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[00:35:20] <fatalnix> Galileo - http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo
[00:35:33] <fatalnix> Yeah I'm about to
[00:35:38] <fatalnix> i know for sure that works.
[00:35:38] <[-CTG-|jlee]> how do I get Eclipse / PDT to format my *.phtml files correctly?
[00:35:40] <[-CTG-|jlee]> When hit CTRL-SHIFT-F, it kills all the indentation I have in the whole file
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[00:37:37] <fatalnix> there is a way..
[00:37:45] <fatalnix> context types?
[00:38:20] <[-CTG-|jlee]> *.phtml is already associated with the PHP Content Type
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[02:07:27] <blarumyrran> Newb here; can I tell an antfile inside Eclipse which target to pick if i Run it from the green button (without changing the code)?
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[02:08:54] <rcjsuen> Doubt it.
[02:09:01] <rcjsuen> blarumyrran: Could use the 'Ant' view instead.
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[02:11:13] <blarumyrran> Thanks, didnt notice the view, just what i was looking for
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[02:36:48] <nitind> Bah, timing.
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[04:14:48] <doctorj> I have a project that is a linked resource to somewhere outside my workspace.  I'd like to relocate the actual files on the filesystem and still have the project work.  How can I do this in Eclipse?
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[04:27:17] <nitind> Son of a...I gotta pay closer attention.
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[04:53:43] <Niriven> ok stupid question, i normally deal with plugin development so :). I have a regular java project which references the swt library. How do i packge these so i can give it to someone else?
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[05:15:01] <Cobi> I am attempting to write a junit4 test using the template that Eclipse creates.  The various tests all have a fail() call in them.  When I try to run the file, expecting everything to fail, I get an initializationError and a backtrace.  What should I do to correct this (I'm a little new to Junit)?
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[05:57:01] <Jed_84> hello everyone
[05:57:15] <Jed_84> i've just installed eclipse in arch linux, and the default package doesn't come with any update sites by default
[05:57:40] <Jed_84> could you please tell me the eclipse galileo update side so I can install third party plugins and be able to resolve dependencies without problems?
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[07:01:41] <nitind> Jed_84: http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo
[07:06:38] <Jed_84> thanks a lot
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[07:14:17] <lampliter> any pointers on how to move code (python) from a project space to a sandbox local or remote
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[07:37:31] <KWhat4> anyone know why my code would all of a sudden start formating its self
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[09:51:28] <etial> Hi, is there (or could there be) a save action for updating auto-generated serialVersionUID fields in Java classes?
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[10:57:35] <corporal_clegg> hello, I develop in php and java, is it possible to download eclipse with both java and php extensions?
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[11:13:58] <egilliam> corporal_clegg: I'm sure you can download standard Eclipse and then install php extensions on top.
[11:18:31] <lampliter> any pointers on how to move code (python) from a project space to a sandbox local or remote
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[11:35:07] <torarne> Q: Anyone know if CDT supports debugging with GDB without restarting gdb for every launch? ie just reload the changed libaries and/or executable?
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[12:25:38] <erdal> anyone tried the buckminster tutorials?
[12:25:53] <erdal> "Building RCP Products"
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[12:35:40] <kaprasanna> I am looking for an example of usage of extension point org.eclipse.ui.workbench.texteditor.rulerColumns. Is there a document that describes how to use this? Thanks.
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[13:10:46] <Aleph_One> Is it possible to have source formatting enabled on selected text only? So if i accidently formats a class it will be ignored?
[13:11:26] <jink> If you select something, and choose format, only that part will be formatted.  If you don't select anything, the entire file will be formatted.
[13:12:14] <Aleph_One> Yes and i want to disable the possibility to format anything that is not selected.
[13:13:08] <jink> I'm not sure it can do that.
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[13:22:04] <Aleph_One> No i cant find any settings for it, but it would be really nice to have the possibility.
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[13:28:09] <rcjsuen> Aleph_One: file an enhancement request
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[13:35:23] <Aleph_One> will do.
[13:35:24] <rcjsuen> revo: Well, the SDK itself is an RCP application at the end of the day.
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[13:36:15] <tarzan> hi
[13:36:16] <revo> and ?
[13:36:28] <revo> i can or not?
[13:36:56] <tarzan> when eclipse is refreshing external folders (refreshing  /.org.eclipse.jdt.core.external.folders./link0), how can i explore what it is actually doing? it takes forever and i have no idea what happens
[13:37:21] <rcjsuen> revo: So it is not clear to me what's stopping you. So I would think you can use it in your own application, sure.
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[13:39:41] <revo>  i have found this http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_implement_Quick_Fixes_for_my_own_language
[13:39:46] <revo> but it is very light ~~
[13:39:54] <rcjsuen> how do you define "light"
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[13:41:01] <rcjsuen> personally in the past i've used the quick fix assistant
[13:41:03] <rcjsuen> instead of the IMR
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[13:42:41] <revo> well i have added the quick fix source code from the wiki
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[13:44:12] <revo> i have added breackpoints in my QuickFixer but with alt+1 or quick fix i see nothing
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[13:46:47] <rcjsuen> you could try checking PDE's code since they seem to use the IMR
[13:46:58] <revo> IMR ?
[13:48:23] <rcjsuen> IMarkerResolution
[13:48:50] <erdal> how do i pass an icon to the p2 installer when installing from an p2 update site?
[13:49:24] <erdal> eclipse.p2.launcherName sets the launcher name, what other settings are available?
[13:51:16] <revo> http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_implement_Quick_Fixes_for_my_own_language%3F
[13:51:35] <revo> with the good link it's better
[13:52:14] <revo> i use the IMarkerResolution
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[13:54:16] <revo> how the imarkerresolution can map between the file extension and the quickfix generator ?
[13:54:39] <rcjsuen> you should check the call hierarchy and see who invokes the public methods of said interface i guess
[13:54:45] <rcjsuen> and check PDE's code to see how they do it
[13:55:32] <rcjsuen> or try switching to IQuickAssistAssistant instead and see if that helps
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[14:03:24] <roaet> Good day. May I ask mylyn questions here?
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[14:08:58] <FauxFaux> roaet: ASK DAMMIT MAN!
[14:09:05] <FauxFaux> The suspense is killing me!
[14:09:22] <revo> where can i find the org.eclipse.ui.examples ?
[14:10:05] <rcjsuen> revo: it's in CVS, ~viewvc
[14:10:05] <T-elos> Looking for a web interface to the source code released by Eclipse projects? http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/
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[14:12:11] <sleon> hi, i have question to the commands plugin: is it possible to disable a command programmatically?
[14:14:35] <revo> rcjsuen thanks i have found org.eclipse.ui.examples.readmetool and there are an example with quickfix
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[14:19:38] <FauxFaux> When using, e.g. the Java Stack Trace Console, can you change the way the source lookup works?  I have two working sets with two different branches of the same code in, and it always picks the wrong one.
[14:24:45] <FauxFaux> I'm sure it used to ask which of the files with that name you want to open?
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[14:31:38] <hopphopp> i just installed Eclipse Logfile Viewer which apparently let you colorize log files based on regexp, but how do you configure it? i can only open the view
[14:42:33] <paulweb515> hopphopp: didn't it come with Help documentation?  If not, I'd try the web site where you got it
[14:43:31] <hopphopp> paulweb515: where should the help documentation be?
[14:43:42] <hopphopp> the web site, at sf.net, is empty :-(
[14:43:59] <paulweb515> hopphopp: Help>Help contents
[14:44:51] <hopphopp> https://sourceforge.net/projects/logfiletools/
[14:45:25] <hopphopp> paulweb515: should it have its own entry in that list in Help Contents?
[14:47:25] <paulweb515> hopphopp: yes, if they provided it
[14:51:04] <paulweb515> hopphopp: 2 things you can check.  Window>Preferences to see if there are preferences for your log viewer you can set and the view menu (small triangle by the view min/max buttons)
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[14:53:20] <hopphopp> nothing there but thanks anyway
[14:53:33] <hopphopp> stupid to not provide a short README or anything
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[15:06:06] <roaet> FauxFaux: Is it possible to have eclipse generate tasks automatically? Instead of having to create new tasks for everything? What i'd like to do is right click a class and perform 'create new task'
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[15:07:46] <roaet> And how do I get eclipse to stop putting brackets one line below where I want them :(
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[15:11:05] <mr_daniel> I have a class with an instance variable, and I want to know where this instance variable is used. How can I tell eclipse to show me all read+write operations on a instance variable?
[15:13:36] <paulweb515> mr_daniel: use CTRL+ALT+H from the declaration
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[15:14:23] <mr_daniel> excellent feature, I thing call hierarchy will make my life a lot easier in the future, thanks a lot paulweb515
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[15:17:24] <paulweb515> mr_daniel: I use it extensively when working my way through an existing codebase
[15:18:30] <mr_daniel> this is weird: in the package it is no problem to link the (Fast)View with the Editor, but I cannot such a button for the Search (Fast)View
[15:19:03] <mr_daniel> seems like this feature is not available in eclipse
[15:20:56] <mr_daniel> ...but it is not necessary, because with Ctrl+. and Ctrl+, it is possiblem to jump between the search results, very helpful feature
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[15:26:18] <Echidna> I have an action that calls another action and the second action switches the perspective
[15:26:37] <Echidna> and for some reason all views from the first perspective are displayed in the second
[15:26:47] <Echidna> in a folder
[15:27:03] <Echidna> if i call the second action separately (not from the first action), this doesnt happen
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[15:35:45] <paulweb515> Echidna: how are you calling the second action from the first?  you can ~pastebin a snippet of code
[15:35:45] <T-elos> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[15:40:07] <misreckoning> I've problems with Eclipse and Javac compiler, they seem to be different
[15:40:19] <misreckoning> should I reconfigure ANT to use Eclipse's compiler, or vice-versa?
[15:40:23] <misreckoning> (and how)
[15:40:30] <misreckoning> thanks :)
[15:40:42] <rcjsuen> could be a bug in ecj or javac
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[15:41:17] <misreckoning> rcjsuen: I think it is a known issue, Sun's javac doesn't follow the specs, and ecj does, but Sun didn't fix it yet
[15:41:46] <misreckoning> for example new int[] {1,2,3,} passes in Eclipse, but not when built with ant and javac
[15:41:49] <Echidna> paulweb515: http://pastie.org/627387
[15:42:35] <misreckoning> and there are tons of differences with generics... lots of code is legal in Eclipse, but illegal in javac
[15:42:44] <misreckoning> what is the common solution to this problem?
[15:43:50] <misreckoning> for example https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170064
[15:45:44] <oopepe> Hello, i created a View and use org.eclipse.ui.navigator.CommonNavigator as class. How do i enable allowMultiple instances of it? When i set it to true in the plugin.xml and go to Window->'Show View' and click on my view no new instance gets created, only the already existing view gets shown. How do i change the behavior of the 'Show View' command to create a new instance of my view?
[15:47:16] <misreckoning> rcjsuen: any thoughts?
[15:47:42] <rcjsuen> misreckoning: I don't usually deal with generics. There are guides lurking around on google about how to use ECJ to compile (in Ant) instead as an Ant adapter.
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[15:51:24] <misreckoning> so, what is better, to configure ant to use ECJ or to configure eclipse, perhaps, to use javac?
[15:51:49] <nitind> Are those the only two options?
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[15:52:52] <paulweb515> Echidna: when does your action call showview?
[15:53:29] <rcjsuen> misreckoning: Well, you can't tell JDT to use javac, so....
[15:54:01] <tphgangster> Hi, can anyone tell me where i can change what i file should contain when i create it (templet) ?
[15:54:19] <rcjsuen> tphgangster: code style / templates, check the preferences (use filter in top left)
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[15:56:09] <Echidna> paulweb515: http://pastie.org/627405 (at the end of NewPersonAction.run())
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[15:56:27] <Echidna> it just opens the other perspective
[15:58:14] <tphgangster> rcjsuen: cant seem to fins anyone that looks like the current default
[15:58:31] <rcjsuen> tphgangster: what is this anyway, Java? C/C++? something else?
[15:58:43] <oopepe> Any ideas on my problem with the multiple views? Or is it not possible?
[15:58:52] <tphgangster> mostly php,css,javascript
[15:59:22] <rcjsuen> oopepe: Window > Show View will not respawn new ones.
[16:00:24] <paulweb515> Echidna: when does your action call showview?
[16:00:25] <rcjsuen> tphgangster: I don't deal with those files, i know it's changeable for Java anyway.
[16:00:58] <Echidna> paulweb515: it doesnt
[16:01:06] <oopepe> rcjsuen: thanks, is it possible to override the action that is executed when i click on my view in the 'Show View' command?
[16:01:07] <tphgangster> yeah, i found it a while back but i cant remember were =/
[16:02:49] <paulweb515> oopepe: you need to provide your own command or action that calls org.eclipse.ui.IWorkbenchPage.showView(String, String, int) if you want to support multi-instance views
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[16:03:39] <oopepe> paulweb515: Ok, thank you
[16:05:13] <erdal> paulweb515: imo, such commands should be provided by eclipse
[16:05:43] <paulweb515> erdal: it provides the default showView for the "main" view
[16:05:49] <erdal> show view, show wizard, show editor, ...
[16:06:32] <rcjsuen> think we have a wizard handler for wizards
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[16:07:30] <paulweb515> erdal: showView and the import/export/new wizards and preferences commands can all take an optional ID to show a specific "one"
[16:07:50] <erdal> ok
[16:08:15] <paulweb515> erdal: in the showView case, it has no way to specify a secondary ID
[16:08:48] <erdal> i see, so that was the problem, did not read carefully
[16:10:29] <paulweb515> There could be an enhancement to allow an optional secondary ID in the showView command (and of course I always accept patches :-)
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[16:14:49] <jonkri> for some reason i can't import a project using svn allthough subclipse is installed. all packages from the subclipse update site are installed and up-to-date. any idea how i can debug this?
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[16:15:58] <uponone> hello, i've downloaded the latest version of Eclipse CDT and was wondering if there is a plugin for XML documents?
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[16:18:34] <rcjsuen> webtools project provides an xml editor
[16:18:45] <rcjsuen> and i'm sure there are 3rd-party solutions also
[16:19:04] <Karl> is there a room specifically for zend studio for eclipse?
[16:19:20] <uponone> rcjsuen, i though the base install of eclipse had the ability to view XML documents
[16:19:36] <rcjsuen> uponone: no, that'd just be a raw text file
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[16:20:10] <rcjsuen> Karl: Dunno, if it did I would guess Zend would advertise it on their website along with their other support channels, whatever those might be.
[16:20:25] <uponone> rcjsuen, alright i'll take a look around.
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[16:24:02] <atpa8a> hmm
[16:25:07] <atpa8a> can eclipse produce statsvn type of reports?
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[16:41:37] <jonkri> i tried removing c:\program files\eclipse and extract the downloaded installation archive again but when eclipse opened up my plugins were still there. are eclipse putting any information outside of its directory, and if so, how do i purge everything?
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[16:43:08] <NoobFukaure> eclipse will sometimes write to a .eclipse folder if your home dir
[16:43:23] <NoobFukaure> for example, say eclipse was installed by an administrative user and cannot write plugins to the main install dir
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[16:46:26] <jonkri> NoobFukaure: you are helping me wherever i go :D
[16:46:40] <NoobFukaure> I'm the phantom helper
[16:46:46] <jonkri> oh indeed
[16:46:51] <jonkri> very much obliged sir
[16:46:54] <NoobFukaure> np
[16:47:03] <rcjsuen> charley: Roland and I are fine with this plan, and we are planning on releasing our local SystemTap plugins :) >> good to hear!
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[16:47:22] <charley> rcjsuen: thanks :)
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[16:47:47] <charley> rcjsuen: [For the comment, and for all the help over the last while ;)]
[16:48:00] <rcjsuen> charley: Andrew's friends are my friends :)
[16:49:23] <charley> rcjsuen: :)
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[16:51:20] <NoobFukaure> system tap looks pretty rad
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[17:19:40] <stiv2k_> hi
[17:19:45] <stiv2k_> anyone here?
[17:20:08] <stiv2k_> im trying to draw a uml diagram with UML2 tools
[17:20:19] <stiv2k_> and i cant give my attributes visibility options or even a type
[17:20:24] <stiv2k_> it wont let me
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[18:21:28] <lampliter> (trying again) any pointers on how to move code (python) from a project space to a sandbox local or remote
[18:22:39] <Echidna> can i resize a canvas after it's been created?
[18:22:49] <Echidna> i need the displayed image to be zoomable
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[19:15:23] <choeger1> Hi guys, is there a better pattern that Piped streams to write into an eclipse IFile? I am just discovering the 1024 Byte limit
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[19:27:16] <oopepe> Hello, how do i get the editor id for a specific file extension?
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[20:23:36] <rcjsuen> Echidna: Canvas is just like any other swt control so I don't see why you couldn't resize it (based on its parent's layout).
[20:26:27] <stiv2k_> does anyone here use UML2 tools?
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[20:56:46] <NoobFukaure> which set of bundles contain the extension/plugin framework for eclipse?
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[20:58:52] <NoobFukaure> looks like the core runtime?
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[21:26:52] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: you mean the extension registry?
[21:27:29] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: that's in org.eclipse.equinox.registry_3.5.0.v20090911.jar (well, some version)
[21:27:52] <NoobFukaure> what I want to do is use the plugin.xml style stuff with a noneclipse app
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[21:28:08] <paulweb515> If you mean what can manage to load bundles and activate them (and manage their classpath) that's the OSGi framework
[21:28:38] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: you can use o.e.e.registry in a non-OSGi app (you just need a few of the common jars in your classpath)
[21:29:15] <NoobFukaure> Is the extension registry what handles the plugin system, where you can define xml files like <plugin name="CoolThing" ... > etc
[21:29:17] <NoobFukaure> ?
[21:29:46] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: yes
[21:29:48] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.platform/msg67801.html
[21:30:12] <NoobFukaure> cool, I'll take a look
[21:30:13] <NoobFukaure> thanks
[21:30:56] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: but why not use OSGi?
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[21:31:17] <NoobFukaure> I am using osgi, but I want to use the plugin framework because it simplifies a lot of things
[21:31:26] <NoobFukaure> it's more focused, osgi is more broad
[21:31:40] <NoobFukaure> I want to use the plugin system for specific parts of the app
[21:32:47] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: if you are already using bundles, you can use the IExtensionRegistry in that context ... my example is a java app that wants to read a target platform
[21:33:08] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: there are other plugin frameworks (less attractive if you are already using OSGi) like jpf is the java plugin framework.  It aims to simplify plugin based systems and can be found at http://jpf.sourceforge.net/.
[21:33:12] <paulweb515> gotta run
[21:33:44] <NoobFukaure> yeah I specifically want eclipse's plugins stuff because of our existing osgi base
[21:34:10] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: right, so o.e.equinox.registry is the registry implementation
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[21:34:34] <paulweb515> NoobFukaure: hunting around for code similar to the post I made should be an example of how to initialize it in an OSGi environment
[21:34:46] <NoobFukaure> okay awesome, thanks
[21:34:52] <NoobFukaure> I did research a bit
[21:35:03] <NoobFukaure> but the terms are so vague most searches come up with nothing
[21:35:39] <NoobFukaure> thanks again
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[22:53:12] <mattt_> Is there a way to update eclipse 3.4 to 3.5 from within eclipse, or do I have to download the whole thing from eclipse.org?
[22:54:21] <mattt_> Speaking of updates.. is there a way to list available updates?  Help->Software Updates just lists "Installed software" and "Available software".. how do I know what needs updating?
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[22:56:25] <mattt_> nm
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[23:02:42] <rcjsuen> mattt_: no, you can't jump from 3.4 to 3.5 using the update system
[23:02:45] <rcjsuen> you need to redownload
[23:02:46] <rcjsuen> ~copyplugins
[23:02:46] <T-elos> You can copy plugins between eclipse installations with p2: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_i_copy_plugins_between_eclipse_installations_with_p2.3F
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[23:02:58] <mattt_> hm, cool thanks
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[23:03:31] <mattt_> that link doesn't seem to jump to the appropriate section..
[23:03:41] <glima> does anyone know how to reference the c/c++ editor in a cdt-derived project?
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[23:52:23] <rcjsuen> mattt_: If you search for the question / read through the list you should be able to find it.
[23:52:32] <mattt_> yeah i did
[23:53:04] <rcjsuen> glima: Reference the editor?
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