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[00:27:05] <b52ub_> hi
[00:27:23] <b52ub_> anyone know a good tuto to use vi with remote eclipse debugger?
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[00:37:11] <FauxFaux> O_o
[00:37:52] <rcjsuen> would that be similar to jdb
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[00:40:47] <b52ub_> yeap
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[01:09:01] <NoobFukaire> when dealing with osgi service listeners, is there any better mechanism for processing the events than like if(service instanceof MyService) { do stuff }
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[01:38:48] <ech0s7> hi
[01:38:57] <ech0s7> i have installed VisualEditor
[01:39:01] <ech0s7> now how can i use it ?
[01:39:12] <ech0s7> where can i open it ?
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[01:44:48] <ech0s7> ~v
[01:44:49] <ech0s7> ~ve
[01:44:49] <T-elos> Check out the Visual Editor Project - http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE - For a 3.4 stream build, see here - http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.tools.ve/msg07723.html
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[01:53:31] <rcjsuen> ech0s7: you use the new wizard to create a class/visual class i think
[01:53:48] <ech0s7> yes, but there isn't it
[01:53:56] <ech0s7> i'm using eclipse galileo
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[03:39:54] <dmiles_afk> rcjsuen: do you know how to parse the outputed .xml from visual studio?
[03:40:15] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: No. I didn't know it "outputted" xml files.
[03:40:27] <dmiles_afk> like for emonic could use them
[03:40:57] <dmiles_afk> oh when you generate an assembly one option is to split out the .xml witch are the coments from souce
[03:41:25] <dmiles_afk>  spit out the .xml which are the comments from source
[03:41:39] <rcjsuen> I was kind of aware of that (embedding stuff in the dll) but I don't think that's parsed, no.
[03:41:48] <rcjsuen> You mean a documentation XML file?
[03:42:00] <nitind> dmiles_afk: Parse it for what purpose?
[03:42:04] <dmiles_afk> yeah i was going to figure out next if this genrated file can be packed into the .dll
[03:42:07] <rcjsuen> Like the mscorlib.xml?
[03:42:11] <dmiles_afk> right
[03:42:35] <rcjsuen> There's code to parse it but the concept of arbitrary external contributions (like attaching Javadoc for JDT) does not exist IIRC>
[03:43:40] * dmiles_afk looks at mscoldib.xml to see if its in the same format as vistualstudio /doc option produces
[03:47:06] <dmiles_afk> hrm actually its a littl more firendly than what i am getting http://libomv.pastebin.ca/1573518
[03:47:52] <dmiles_afk> this format uses <member>M:  instead of <method>
[03:48:38] <dmiles_afk> nitind: the purpose is to present documentation for the user while they are working
[03:50:06] <dmiles_afk> thinking emonic was vetran at pasing
[03:50:16] <dmiles_afk> thinking emonic was veteran at parsing these
[03:51:16] <dmiles_afk> oo bad MS didnt embed these into Assemblies
[03:52:50] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Those look the same as what I see.
[03:55:22] <dmiles_afk> do you know of a nice helper class to grab documentation by type?
[03:55:55] <dmiles_afk> (assuming its the same strcuture as your getting from the .dll)
[03:56:02] <rcjsuen> Think we have some AssemblyParser class
[03:56:07] <rcjsuen> with static methods
[03:57:25] <dmiles_afk> ok i see how its uised with ObjectBrowserView.java now
[03:57:52] <rcjsuen> well, as long as you can figure it out
[03:57:52] <dmiles_afk> has .parseDocumentation
[03:58:07] <rcjsuen> I haven't looked at that code in a year.
[03:58:16] <dmiles_afk> hehe
[03:58:16] <rcjsuen> yeah
[03:58:20] <rcjsuen> saw that just now when i vim'd the file
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[03:59:02] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Anyway, good luck.
[03:59:19] <dmiles_afk> thanks ! i know you'd be the person to ask
[03:59:31] <dmiles_afk> knewed
[04:01:21] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Still waiting for the day some company wants to start a C# plug-in at eclipse.org ;p
[04:02:42] <dmiles_afk> i am not sure why none has.. oh on one of my project (the one i am working on) a developer uses Emonic.. they brough it up not me
[04:03:08] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: I'm surprised even though there's been no activity (at least that I know of).
[04:03:27] <rcjsuen> But I guess it's still like beta-status-not-usable-anyway so ;)
[04:03:30] <rcjsuen> er
[04:03:34] <rcjsuen> not-totally-unusable
[04:03:43] <dmiles_afk> they liked it better than MD.. that was the context
[04:03:59] <dmiles_afk> hehe but thats not saying much .. in that context
[04:04:01] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Even now? I would expect MD to be waaaaaaay ahead.
[04:04:14] <rcjsuen> but I think MD is still not very stable?
[04:04:29] <dmiles_afk> oh they where ranting about MD.. and said they are switching to emonic
[04:04:37] <nitind> "MD"?
[04:04:44] <rcjsuen> nitind: MonoDevelop, 'eard of it?
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[04:05:09] <rcjsuen> well just monodevelop.com if you haven't ;)
[04:05:21] <nitind> rcjsuen: Yes, but never looked into it.  An IDE that sounded like it was built for a single language didn't interest me,
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[04:05:47] <dmiles_afk> i use a system called Prebuild.exe that produces NAnt files which emonic actually can consume and build .. cuz it just uses nant.. where the /taget monodev of Prebuild.exe was producing broken project files
[04:05:54] <rcjsuen> they have support for other languages...dunno how strong those are tho
[04:06:09] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: oh i remember you brought that up b4
[04:06:24] <dmiles_afk> yeah i still use PRebuild.exe.. all the time it really is good
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[04:06:38] <dmiles_afk> basicalyl it scans the working dirrectory and produces .build files
[04:06:52] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: So what do you (guys) do anyway? A Java and C# shop?
[04:07:35] <dmiles_afk> this is a special client for secondlife.. all C# but we all originated as java people
[04:08:11] <dmiles_afk> network client for using secondlife and OpenSim
[04:08:33] <rcjsuen> ah
[04:08:46] <rcjsuen> And it sounds you have devs on Linux and Windows.
[04:09:15] <rcjsuen> I guess trying to work with VS files in non-VS apps is like trying to work with Eclipse metadata files in non-Eclipse apps ;)
[04:09:30] <dmiles_afk> yeah .. i only do linux about 20% of the  time.. just sanity stuff
[04:09:53] <dmiles_afk> i just wrote a contributions plugin system for people to write client plugins.. they add to context menus and everything
[04:10:29] <dmiles_afk> for this secondlife viewer)
[04:10:44] <dmiles_afk> hehe now i am starting to wish we used eclipse for our UI
[04:11:25] <dmiles_afk> well if i were emonic.. i'd use prebuil.xml
[04:11:43] <dmiles_afk> http://code.google.com/p/opensim4opencog/source/browse/trunk/prebuild.xml
[04:11:46] <rcjsuen> haha, well, it's a trade off
[04:11:51] <rcjsuen> since the learning curve for plug-in dev is high
[04:11:55] <rcjsuen> but then you get tons of stuff for free
[04:12:13] <rcjsuen> and rcp is proven + stable
[04:12:41] <dmiles_afk> if the libsecondlife was usable outside IKVM then proably would
[04:13:31] <dmiles_afk> as long as eclipse was comfy in a IKVM context.. etc
[04:13:57] <rcjsuen> yeah...that's stretching it i guess ;)
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[04:15:34] <dmiles_afk> although one other guy really likes eclipse.. i am hoping somehow we end up somehow hosting our client in eclipse.. since its a IDE/Client.. the IDE the person wries in differnt languagase: Clojure/LSL/Lisp/AIML
[04:17:13] <rcjsuen> that'd be good
[04:17:17] <rcjsuen> integration is always nice
[04:17:51] <dmiles_afk> oh there are even more http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Scripting_Languages
[04:17:53] <rcjsuen> less  alt+tabbing
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[04:18:47] <dmiles_afk> mainly yeah .. well when a person saves the document it has to beuloaded to the simulator
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[04:57:02] <R118317v> Do i need to install eclipse and eclipse cdt for c/c++ projects?
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[08:12:41] <EricInBNE> is there a way to add launcher icons to the toolbar, or is there a plugin that supports an easy way to interact with little scripts?
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[10:03:14] <pimj> Eclipse keeps crashing when the intellisense comes in... anyone knows what the problem can be?
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[10:11:57] <pimj> I am working using the RSE plugin without any problems
[10:11:58] <glaksmono> hey, what is the codename for Eclipse 3.4.1?
[10:12:08] <glaksmono> is that Ganymade or Europa?
[10:12:14] <pimj> but when creating an remote project, and the intellisense comes in.. crash
[10:12:17] * glaksmono needs to download Eclipse 3.4.1
[10:14:35] <glaksmono> anyone?
[10:14:40] <glaksmono> this is like, the simplest question ever.. = ="..
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[10:15:55] <glaksmono> helppppppppppp
[10:16:01] <glaksmono> what is the codename of Eclipse 3.4.1?
[10:16:03] <glaksmono> i need to download it
[10:16:05] <glaksmono> idk which one?
[10:16:07] <glaksmono> wherE?
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[10:22:35] <fixl> ganymede = 3.4
[10:22:36] <fixl> ?
[10:22:52] <glaksmono> ah..
[10:23:07] <glaksmono> thanks fixl
[10:23:08] <glaksmono> :)
[10:23:10] <glaksmono> finally
[10:23:16] <fixl> no worries
[10:23:34] <fixl> 3.5 (gallileo) is the newest though
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[10:24:47] <pimj> anyone knows how i can solve my problem ?
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[10:27:36] <glaksmono> fixl: yeah, i knew that.. but the plugin that i need to install needs 3.4.x
[10:27:43] <glaksmono> 3.4.1 is the highest that it supports
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[11:02:48] <Niels87> Could anyone help me with a issue with Zend Studio for Eclipse 7.0? Auto completion is not working for me inside a project
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[11:32:58] <matrium> hi
[11:33:24] <matrium> is it possible to remove an extension at runtime?
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[11:46:10] <matrium> or change the priority of an extension?
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[11:59:18] <nitind> matrium: What do you mean?
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[12:11:28] <Kudd> Do you know another plugin for database (not database development, quantum db, sql explorer)
[12:11:32] <Kudd> a good one
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[12:15:32] <matrium> nitind: a plugin registeres an extension for a new project nature but I want eclipse to use another project nature for the project nature id
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[12:17:56] <nitind> matrium: Don't do that.  It might be possible, but don't.
[12:18:45] <matrium> but I have to :)
[12:19:21] <matrium> the problem is that the plugin takes the nature to get some special files
[12:19:34] <matrium> but the natures just looks into the project root
[12:19:41] <matrium> but the files I need are in a subfolder
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[12:20:17] <matrium> so I have to inherit from the nature and overwrite the method
[12:22:56] <nitind> "takes the nature"?
[12:23:31] <Kudd> Who tries SQL Edge?
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[12:30:07] <matrium> the nature has a method that returns the URLs of the files
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[12:33:45] <rcjsuen> Sounds like you're playing with fire.
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[12:44:37] <azazul> hi peeps, i got a question about Maven in Eclipse
[12:45:14] <azazul> when im trying to make a new maven project , it looks like the list of archetypes is empty
[12:45:38] <azazul> should it be so , or have i done (am still doing) wrong ?
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[12:51:56] <azazul> nvm
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[12:58:29] <MrStein> Hi! Where is the "server editor" ? An error dialog tells me to increas the timeout there, but I can't find it?
[12:59:44] <nitind> MrStein: Double-click on the entry in the Servers view.
[13:00:18] <MrStein> Ah, thanks. I tried right clicking and all the menu options.... :-p
[13:01:14] <MrStein> Suddenly the debug startup takes very log, so I got the timeout. Weird. But there are many weird things in my current project..
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[13:03:55] <kdubb> I am trying to use o.e.debug.ui in my RCP app... unfortunately when I start my application the said plugin throws an exception on startup, IllegalStateException: Workbench has not been created, anybody know why and how to get it fixed?
[13:08:17] <nitind> kdubb: Try catching the exception with the Debug view.
[13:08:26] <nitind> Err, Breakpoints view.
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[13:13:37] <catmando> hey all
[13:13:59] <catmando> any ideas on why the WTP update site is reposrting as having no repository?
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[13:15:00] <kdubb> nitind: Ok.. well it seems o.e.debug.ui is getting called before my RCP plugin can call createAndRunWorkbench
[13:18:30] <catmando> k, can someone just confirm that http://download.eclipse.org/tools/atf/updates/ actually contains software?
[13:20:34] <rcjsuen> EricInBNE: Launcher icons to the toolbar?
[13:21:24] <rcjsuen> Niels87: I suggest you take it up with Zend then. You could also try getting the PHP download from Eclipse.org instead and see how that goes.
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[13:22:16] <rcjsuen> kdubb: Well, what does the trace look like, seems odd that it'd be brought up so quickly.
[13:24:30] <EricInBNE> rcjsuen, would like to add external tool configs directly to the main toolbar.
[13:24:44] <EricInBNE> rcjsuen also seeking a command center of sorts, to run quick little scripts that can report back on their progress.
[13:25:09] <rcjsuen> if you wanna add stuff to the toolbar then you need to write plug-ins
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[13:26:55] <EricInBNE> hmm looking for something quick and easy/dirty
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[13:27:20] <anli_> is there a vector shape design tool for eclipse?
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[13:33:35] <kdubb> rcjsuen: The trace is simple because it's failing in the plugin startup.... but I got it to work by changing the start level of the o.e.debug.ui plugin to something greater than "6".  I am not sure why this works but it seems to
[13:34:29] <kdubb> only thing I can think of it that the default start level for the currently running RCP application plugin is 6?
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[14:01:00] <rcjsuen> Odin_: If you downloaded Eclipse Classic you have the sources.
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[14:02:07] <MrStein> Suddenly starting a server (tomcat) in Debug takes very long and times out. Does this sound familiar to someone? It started to do this just recently, with minimal changes.
[14:02:31] <MrStein> It is starting and the console is slowly filled, the CPU is at 100% usage all the time.
[14:03:17] <rcjsuen> Odin_: File > Import > Existing Plug-ins (or something like that)
[14:03:31] <rcjsuen> and you can choose to import as source
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[14:05:52] <kdubb> rcjsuen: So I just realized setting the start-level doesn't work... because now the plugin is never started so my attempts to use it crash in odd ways.
[14:06:11] <Odin_> I see "General -> Existing Projects into Workspace"  but its not a project.. its going to be some kind of *-sources.jar file
[14:06:15] <rcjsuen> kdubb: it's not clear to me why it's even started, imo
[14:06:35] <rcjsuen> Odin_: Plug-in Development > Plug-ins and Fragments
[14:06:54] <rcjsuen> kdubb: well, unless you have debug views open, but i'm not sure why your wb would not be created first
[14:07:12] <Odin_> no I have a "wb" but no project in it
[14:07:12] <rcjsuen> hard to render the views...when the wb is not up ;)
[14:07:25] <rcjsuen> Odin_: File > Import > Plug-in Development > Plug-ins and Fragments
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[14:09:00] <kdubb> rcjsuen: It seems that the o.e.debug.ui plugin is unique (amongst all plugins I am currently using) in that it tries to access the WB inside the "startup" method
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[14:09:13] <rcjsuen> kdubb: you mean start(BundleContext)?
[14:10:35] <kdubb> rcjsuen: Oops... yes I meant "start"
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[14:12:35] <Odin_> rcjsuen, ok I tried something (to import all dependency plugins needed from 1 project I had open) I can see other plugin id's as projects now but no sources in then just .class, so I guess I download Platform SDK now
[14:12:35] <rcjsuen> Where is it failing anyway
[14:12:40] <MrStein> Why is it that some general keyboard shortcuts, like ctrl-K for search_again do not work in some views, like Console ot Compare Editor ?
[14:12:53] <MrStein> ot=or
[14:13:07] <rcjsuen> Odin_: you imported them as projects with source folders?
[14:13:20] <Odin_> rcjsuen, yup
[14:13:31] <rcjsuen> i guess you don't have source code then (or there's a bug)
[14:13:51] <Odin_> rcjsuen, yep thats what I mean by I "download platform SDK now" (and try same thing again)
[14:13:58] <rcjsuen> right
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[14:35:21] <kdubb> Hmmm I think there is a bug in one of the debug ui classes it calls PlatformUI.getWorkbench() and then checks the result for null... but getWorkbench() can never return null it throws an exception instead.  It seems it should be using PlatformUI.isWorkbenchRunning()
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[14:36:13] <rcjsuen> kdubb: Where is this / what line
[14:36:31] <rcjsuen> you mean PlatformUI.getWorkbench().getThemeManager().addPropertyChangeListener(fThemeListener);?
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[14:37:08] <rcjsuen> it should've passed the isWR() boolean check there tho, so i guess not that one
[14:37:11] <kdubb> LaunchingResourceManager.startup (line 528 of file)
[14:37:45] <rcjsuen> I guess getStandardDisplay() is also problematic maybe.
[14:39:18] <rcjsuen> but yeah i see your point
[14:39:49] <kdubb> I am not sure if the code I refer to would work if isWR was used because, although the startup would complete, no listener would be attached to the workbench
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[14:41:25] <kdubb> rcjsuen: Any idea how Eclipse itself gets around this? Obviously in Eclipse the o.e.debug.ui plugin is loaded after the createAndRunWorkbench has been called.
[14:41:47] <rcjsuen> well, it's still not clear to me why the UI is starting so early
[14:41:49] <rcjsuen> er
[14:41:53] <rcjsuen> why debug ui is activated so early
[14:42:06] <rcjsuen> I am not necessarily convinced we have code internally to "workaround" this.
[14:43:23] <wambam> Hi. I have a quick question regarding the eclipse java editor. When autocompleting e.g. a method through the content assistant, one can jump through parameters using tab or space. Does anyone know what these "markers" are called? I'm writing a custom editor, and want to implement this myself.
[14:43:37] <rcjsuen> wambam: linked mode model / linked mode ui
[14:43:39] <rcjsuen> something similar
[14:43:44] <rcjsuen> just look for LinkedXXXX
[14:44:00] <kdubb> Unless one of my debug plugins is causing it's activation but I don't think that it is... it's getting activated by doSetStartLevel
[14:44:10] <wambam> rcjsuen: Thanks so much. I'll try googling it :)
[14:44:16] <rcjsuen> ~api LinkedModeModel
[14:44:17] <T-elos> org.eclipse.jface.text.link.LinkedModeModel - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/jface/text/link/LinkedModeModel.html
[14:44:19] <rcjsuen> ~api LinkedModeUI
[14:44:21] <T-elos> org.eclipse.jface.text.link.LinkedModeUI - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/jface/text/link/LinkedModeUI.html
[14:44:37] <wambam> Oh, cheers!
[14:44:39] <rcjsuen> kdubb: this is just from launching the app internall from eclipse not exported?
[14:45:14] <kdubb> yes... just launching from debug configuration
[14:45:22] <rcjsuen> setting a default start level doesn't help?
[14:46:09] <kdubb> Well the default start-level is 4 (must have been set as a default I don't think I did it)
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[14:48:33] <rcjsuen> actually aren't start levels only defined in an osgi launch config
[14:49:45] <kdubb> well I am using the "Eclipse Application" launch config... and the plug-ins tab has a start-level for each plugin and a default start-level
[14:49:59] <rcjsuen> o
[14:50:02] <rcjsuen> i'm looking at my 3.4.2 installation
[14:50:17] <rcjsuen> you have default auto-start to false right
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[14:50:51] <kdubb> nope it defaults to true it seems...
[14:52:01] <kdubb> but setting it to false doesn't seem to change anything
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[15:04:39] <elyezer> I'm trying to use template preference page to create some templates and pass them to a external tool (like html templates to build a JavaDoc). Do I need to create an editor?
[15:04:49] <elyezer> or Context?
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[15:05:48] <elyezer> because I've created the preference page and it's showing the template list, but it's blank and I can't add a new one or load from an xml file
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[15:17:04] <kdubb> rcjsuen: I got it working... there is an option on the configuration tab of the eclipse application launch configuration call "clear the configuration area before launching".  This config area seems to be located inside my building workspace, as opposed to the workspace my debugged rcp app is running in, and as such survived when I was blowing away .metadata in my rcp app.
[15:17:26] * rcjsuen shrugs.
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[15:17:49] <kdubb> rcjsuen: Now the real question... what is this and why does it (or did it) have a list of plugins to "preload"?
[15:18:03] <rcjsuen> in the .metadata folder pde launch configs might've cached something
[15:19:02] <kdubb> Hmmm.... maybe the "Auto-start" which defaulted to "true" was cached in there?
[15:19:46] <rcjsuen> well, i would expect the launch to read the combo box properly
[15:19:51] <rcjsuen> but *shrugs* you never know i gues
[15:20:16] <kdubb> hahaha.... NOPE!
[15:20:44] <rcjsuen> if you can repro properly feel free to file a bug
[15:20:47] <kdubb> If I set if back to auto-start=true then the error pops up again... it seems that pde is caching that.
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[15:21:47] <beatKyo> Hi there. Any buckminster guru helper in here ? :)
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[15:29:20] <elyezer> what is the keystroke to see what class implements some preference page?
[15:31:46] <paulweb515> elyezer: ALT+SHIFT+F1
[15:32:05] <paulweb515> CTRL+SHIFT+L will give the active key bindings available to you
[15:32:11] <elyezer> paulweb515:
[15:32:15] <elyezer> thank you very much
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[15:49:45] <elyezer> in eclipse plug-in source code, what the "f" in the beginning of variable's name means?
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[15:58:20] <paulweb515> elyezer: field
[15:58:40] <elyezer> paulweb515: thank you
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[16:05:29] <Kudd_> what's the difference between omondo and eUML2
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[16:24:02] <digitalis> I'm using PDT 1.1 (Eclipse 3.41). It has just started crashing when saving files. Where can I read more about the problem and what can I do about it?
[16:24:37] <digitalis> PDT 2.1 even
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[16:25:31] <deSilva> maybe there is something in the ~logs?
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[16:27:46] <digitalis> deSilva: using vista, where can I find the logs then?
[16:28:26] <rcjsuen> ~logs
[16:28:27] <T-elos> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[16:29:49] <deSilva> did my question mark confuse T-elos?
[16:30:06] <rcjsuen> known long outstanding bug that i never bothered to fix
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[16:31:07] <deSilva> what is the keyboard shortcut for view error log?
[16:31:52] <deSilva> will there be a pdt 2.1 service release later this week?
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[16:35:34] <digitalis> latest log entry before crash is: !ENTRY org....facet.core 4 0 ... !MESSAGE Project facet jst.web has not been defined. It ... plugin org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.web.core. Should't make it crash or can it?
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[16:37:22] <rcjsuen> i didn't think pdt 2.1 ran on 3.4
[16:37:54] <rcjsuen> more ~info may help
[16:37:54] <T-elos> Please state a) your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), b) operating system (Windows, Linux, OSX, etc.), c) your Java runtime environment (please verify by checking your ~logs or in the about dialog's ~jre section. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), d) your Eclipse version, and e) where did you get Eclipse from (eclipse.org, distro repository, etc.).
[16:38:22] <digitalis> I downloaded eclipse for php from www.eclipse.org and it worked. Is that the same as PDT?
[16:38:52] <deSilva> maybe it would be simpler to just try eclipse 3.5?
[16:40:12] <rcjsuen> digitalis: Yeah, likely. What is the zip/tarball called?
[16:40:40] <digitalis> eclipse-php-galileo-win32.zip, should be 3.5
[16:40:48] <rcjsuen> That's 3.5 ,correct.
[16:42:12] <rcjsuen> please provide all the info T-elos mentioned
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[16:43:13] <Dimi> Hi everybody
[16:43:48] <digitalis> It was 3.41 that didn't work. I must have mixed up my eclipses thought I run PDT 2.1. Still want info for crash on old PDT (Eclipse 3.41) ?
[16:44:31] <Dimi> does somebody have time to help me and answer me a few questions about plugin-dev in eclipse3.5 ?
[16:44:48] <deSilva> dimi, just ~ask
[16:44:49] <T-elos> If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question. Skip the "meta-questions" like asking whether anyone uses X also as a precursor to check whether anyone can help you with a problem you have with X. Just ask the real question you have about X.
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[16:45:30] <rcjsuen> digitalis: If you don't care anymore then doesn't really matter to me.
[16:46:05] <digitalis> rcjsuen: ok :) thought you might was interssted in some kind of report :) Thanks for the help thou
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[16:51:28] <rcjsuen> Dimi: Was there more to your story?
[16:51:52] <Dimi> ok ;) lets go... so I'm trying to create a new editor for the programming language Quartz. I created the project, created the editor extension subclassing EditorPart and created a contentTypeBinding... now I have to implement the methods for the editor and don't know how to open a file... everytime I try to open a *.qrz file I get an exception "Invalid Input: Must be IFileEditorInput"
[16:52:50] <rcjsuen> how are you actually opening this file exactly
[16:54:29] <Dimi> via menu, "File" > "Open File.."
[16:55:02] <rcjsuen> your editor does not appear to (at the moment) support opening files that do not reside in the ws
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[16:57:23] <Dimi> then how do I say to my editor : take this file and open it please  (I am a bit new to the hole thing with plugin-development)
[16:58:55] <rcjsuen> what does your editor's code look like
[16:59:12] <rcjsuen> You will need to change it to handle FileStoreEditorInputs also.
[17:00:29] <Kudd_> What do you advise me about eclipse.ini? I have 4gb
[17:01:54] <Dimi> at the moment only the init() method, that looks like  "public void init(IEditorSite site, IEditorInput input)
[17:01:54] <Dimi> 			throws PartInitException {
[17:01:55] <Dimi> 		// TODO Auto-generated method stub
[17:01:55] <Dimi> 		if (!(input instanceof IFileEditorInput))
[17:01:55] <Dimi> 			throw new PartInitException(
[17:01:56] <Dimi> 					"Invalid Input: Must be IFileEditorInput");
[17:01:58] <Dimi> 		setSite(site);
[17:02:00] <Dimi> 		setInput(input);
[17:02:02] <Dimi> 	}"
[17:02:03] <Kudd_> pastebin :)
[17:02:04] <Dimi>  and I have declared a privat TextEditor textEditor, that is initiatet with "textEditor = new TextEditor();"
[17:02:33] <rcjsuen> Dimi: well as you can see for yourself in the code, the exception comes from that
[17:03:03] <rcjsuen> not clear to me why you're instantiating a new text editor by hand...i suppose unless you have multiple editors
[17:03:13] <rcjsuen> (embedded into one editor)
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[17:04:18] <Dimi> to be honest, I don't know why I am instatiating the text editor by hand... after plenty of tutorials I thought this is possibly a solution to create an editor
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[17:05:01] <rcjsuen> the framework will instantiate your editor
[17:05:25] <Dimi> basically I just need the editor to open *.qrz files and work with them and give them a syntax coloring
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[17:06:31] <rcjsuen> you should probably look at the xml editor template that's generated
[17:06:37] <rcjsuen> when you make a new plug-in project
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[17:07:32] <Dimi> I already looked at it, but this is really confusing me, because there are lots of other functionalities implemented
[17:08:17] <zipper> Anyone who can recommend a good RMI plugin for eclipse? Having to go command-line and use rmic manually gets really annoying after a while
[17:09:31] <rcjsuen> Dimi: then compare your code with the generated code and see what's different between your editors
[17:09:42] <rcjsuen> as noted earlier, th eexception is thrown because that's how your init method is implemented
[17:09:56] <Dimi> yes
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[17:11:34] <Dimi> so, in order to extend my editor with new functionalities, you suggest to create my editor as the example does (extending TextEditor) ? Many tutorials begin with extending EditorPart
[17:12:33] <rcjsuen> well, if you feel like writing a text editor from scratch you can extend EditorPart
[17:13:03] <rcjsuen> but unless someone wheeled in a wheelbarrow full of cash and gave me many years of development time, I would probably respectfully decline said request
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[17:18:34] <Sna4x8> When I select File->Open in Eclipse, how come it opens with my default editor instead of Eclipse
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[17:24:22] <Dimi> rcjsuen: I think I try it with extending TextEditor ;) thank you for your help! :)
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[17:40:45] <zipper> Anyone who can recommend a good RMI plugin for eclipse? Having to go command-line and use rmic manually gets really annoying after a while
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[17:46:53] <kyo_> Hi, I am trying tu build a plugin/feature with buckminster headless. The eclipse.build action seems to have no effect at all... Any clue on this ?
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[18:54:11] <EricDalquist> Using Eclipse 3.5.0 and after installing the Oxygen XML editor plugin all items under the Search menu are disabled
[18:54:16] <EricDalquist> using the Java perspective
[18:54:23] <EricDalquist> has anyone seen this before?
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[18:55:47] <EricDalquist> I can still get to the search menu with Ctrl+H though
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[19:14:32] <Dimi> I tried to make a Editor from the Example Editor Template, but everytime I open a File with the editor a text "ERROR" is displayed instead of the opened file content
[19:15:02] <Dimi> does anybody know how to solve this problem?
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[19:18:39] <rcjsuen> That'd highly depend on the root of the error
[19:18:43] <rcjsuen> turn on ~consolelog if you haven't alrdy
[19:18:43] <T-elos> Writing an Eclipse-based application and can't find anything useful in your console and/or getting "Unhandled event loop exceptions"? Add -consoleLog as a 'Program Argument' to your launch configuration. See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_get_an_unhandled_event_loop_exception_in_my_console._What_gives.3F
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[19:23:51] <Dimi> thank you
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[19:24:38] <hopper_irc> how can I install the new version eclipse on debian 5
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[19:25:58] <Primer> Hi, does eclipse 3.5 handle deadlocks/runaway threads better?
[19:26:08] <Primer> Because right now I can get it to "run away" consistently by trying to do an svn merge
[19:26:10] <rcjsuen> hopper_irc: download, untar, ./eclipse
[19:27:20] <rcjsuen> Primer: Sounds like you should file a bug to the SVN plug-in team.
[19:28:16] <Primer> I'm using subclipse.
[19:28:26] <hopper_irc> rejsuen: I need a bindle to run all this eclipse from one executable file
[19:28:44] <Primer> Is there no view to see what each thread is doing?
[19:28:52] <Primer> or must I still kill -3?
[19:29:03] <rcjsuen> hopper_irc: Rephrase that.
[19:29:11] <rcjsuen> Primer: you can get a thread dump, which may help, see ~deadlock
[19:29:11] <T-elos> In a deadlock? http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/How_to_report_a_deadlock
[19:29:18] <Primer> thanks
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[19:29:36] <Primer> it's not a deadlock, it's something that's run away (presumably
[19:29:37] <Primer> )
[19:29:49] <Primer> as my CPU load goes to 100% and never stops
[19:29:51] <rcjsuen> Primer: Well, that wiki article shows you how to get a thread dump.
[19:29:58] <rcjsuen> deadlock or not, the steps are there
[19:32:31] <Echidna> can i have a PropertyTester that returns a string?
[19:32:34] <hopper_irc> rcjsuen: I have downloaded all the individual IDE of eclipse
[19:32:47] <hopper_irc> but how can I combine them
[19:34:12] <rcjsuen> you're better off just downloading one and installing the rest via the update mechanism
[19:34:19] <rcjsuen> i'm not really sure how you'd just merge all those arbitrary tarballs
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[19:40:35] <paulweb515> Echidna: no, you can only use the property tester to test for a string (pass in a result or arguments)
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[19:52:12] <Echidna> thx
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[20:22:55] <Dimi> The "ERROR" is still displayed by the editor instead of the file content. -consoleLog did not help me to find the error... can somebody look at my consoleLog please?
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[20:23:51] <rcjsuen> someone will look if you put it online
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[20:26:28] <Dimi> !SESSION 2009-09-21 19:29:30.374 -----------------------------------------------
[20:26:28] <Dimi> eclipse.buildId=I20090611-1540
[20:26:29] <Dimi> java.version=1.6.0_15
[20:26:30] <Dimi> java.vendor=Apple Inc.
[20:26:30] <Dimi> BootLoader constants: OS=macosx, ARCH=x86_64, WS=cocoa, NL=de_DE
[20:26:31] <Dimi> Framework arguments:  -product org.eclipse.sdk.ide
[20:26:32] <Dimi> Command-line arguments:  -product org.eclipse.sdk.ide -data /Users/Dimi/Documents/Eclipse/workspace/../runtime-EclipseApplication -dev file:/Users/Dimi/Documents/Eclipse/workspace/.metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.pde.core/Eclipse Application/dev.properties -consoleLog -os macosx -ws cocoa -arch x86_64
[20:26:35] <Dimi> !ENTRY org.eclipse.jface 2 0 2009-09-21 19:29:39.218
[20:26:37] <Dimi> !MESSAGE Keybinding conflicts occurred.  They may interfere with normal accelerator operation.
[20:26:39] <Dimi> !SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.jface 2 0 2009-09-21 19:29:39.218
[20:26:41] <Dimi> !MESSAGE A conflict occurred for ALT+COMMAND+Q P:
[20:26:43] <Dimi> Binding(ALT+COMMAND+Q P,
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[20:27:13] <rcjsuen> Guess kdubb's pastebin suggestion wasn't parsed properly last time.
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[20:27:53] <kdubb> rcjsuen: huh?
[20:28:25] <rcjsuen> kdubb: whoops, wrong person, there was a Kudd_ person earlier :)
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[20:28:48] <Dimi> (back online, connection timeout)
[20:29:02] <rcjsuen> Dimi: use a ~pastebin
[20:29:02] <T-elos> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[20:30:57] <Dimi> sry, here -> http://pastebin.com/d2facf778
[20:31:29] <rcjsuen> doesn't look like there's anything related to your editor
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[20:31:39] <rcjsuen> use breakpoints and step thru your editor's code then
[20:31:54] <rcjsuen> and try to identify where it fails
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[20:32:09] <rcjsuen> if in doubt just try/catch/printStackTrace()/rethrow everywhere
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[20:34:26] <Dimi> ok
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[20:46:35] <Dimi> thank you for your help :)
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[21:14:01] <wanderingi> is there any way of telling which files in a project haven't been added to source control when using the clearcase plugin?
[21:14:12] <Remowylliams> hello everyone, is there a link or wiki entry some place that tells how to turn off all the bells and whistles that slow down editing files? every time I add or modify a variable my system hangs while eclipse checks it
[21:18:26] <rcjsuen> Remowylliams: That'd probably depend on what you're editing. It's fine for me for Java / text.
[21:19:10] <Remowylliams> rcjsuen: I'm editing php and java and html
[21:19:24] <rcjsuen> I have no problems with Java anyway.
[21:19:43] <rcjsuen> for php you could try disabling highlight occurrences
[21:19:46] <rcjsuen> think it's Alt+Shift+O
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[21:22:33] <Remowylliams> rcjsuen: ok thanks I'll try.
[21:23:01] <NoobFukaire> does anyone know what the osname is in the Bundle-NativeCode osgi manifest for windows 64-bit?
[21:23:03] <NoobFukaire> win64?
[21:24:06] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaire: it's still win32
[21:24:11] <rcjsuen> the ws is x86_64 tho iirc
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[21:24:20] <rcjsuen> krbarnes could probably confirm.
[21:24:36] <krbarnes> win32
[21:24:46] <NoobFukaire> ok, thanks guys
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[21:54:14] <Remowylliams> is there a special mode for the java perspective in Eclipse to understand java servelet pages?
[21:55:05] <deSilva> I use the jee edition to develop servlets
[21:56:13] <Remowylliams> what a pain in the butt, you can work on jsp files just don't put any html comments like <!-- something here -->
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[22:04:36] <Remowylliams> does anyone notice smart insert is a little bit agressive if not just outright annoying?
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[22:52:20] <morenojee> hello! My question is - how can I get document/file statistics like word count, char count, lines count... in eclipse galileo? anyone explain?
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[23:03:11] <morenojee> how do I count words,lines, chars...in eclipse? any plugin available?
[23:05:08] <morenojee> I will use jedit for this function only...but I think it should be available in eclipse as well...but knowledge is the king?!...
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[23:59:45] <njbartlett> Really stupid question time: is it possible to get an AssertionError when assertions are disabled?





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