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[00:11:04] <jboooo> alot of these bugday bugs are kind of old, are these not important anymore?
[00:13:14] <rcjsuen> jboooo: bugs filed years ago doesn't mean they're not important anymore
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[00:14:20] <rcjsuen> There are several old bugs that are unfixed. In the case of the platform, usually because they're hard problems and it is difficult to fix without breaking half the people that build products and applications on top of the platform.
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[00:31:35] <noescape> Hi. I was using aptana and yesterday i installed eclipse pdt. when i create a new php project and do not change any default setting it gives me error that "build path contains duplicate entry". now if i go back and remove php language library from libraries tab project get created successfully. am i doing anything wrong?
[00:32:36] <noescape> how i can prevent eclipse to not include php language library by default in libraries tab ?
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[00:37:00] <IvoryZion> Does the C/C++ plugin have the 'Display' view?
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[01:53:16] <NoobFukaire> osgi/eclipse dev in scala is pretty nice
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[02:06:25] <njbartlett> NoobFukaire: I agree
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[03:29:38] <Niriven> anyone familar with eclipse commands in plugins and isEnabled()? well it works, but it doesnt refresh unless i click something
[03:33:32] <rcjsuen> Niriven: I suggest you ask on the forums.
[03:33:49] <Niriven> rcjsuen, whats this channel for then? :)
[03:34:19] <rcjsuen> Niriven: Your question is appropriate for here. Just saying you should toss a larger net.
[03:35:28] <Niriven> rcjsuen, ah ok thanks
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[03:53:29] <kertap> Hello. Is there a project in CSV which uses PDE to build an update site?
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[04:59:49] <kesselhaus> hmm, didn't program in java for ages now... can't you compare to strings with String t = obj.toString(); if (t == "compare") { ... }?
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[05:00:41] <NoobFukaire> no, that's a nono
[05:00:52] <NoobFukaire> string.equals(String)
[05:00:58] <NoobFukaire> for value comparisons
[05:01:06] <NoobFukaire> to compare references, you can use ==
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[05:01:15] <rcjsuen> 99.9% of the time you don't wanna
[05:02:37] <kesselhaus> hmm, then == compares the hashCode() and not the content?
[05:03:45] <kesselhaus> and i thought it was otherwise..
[05:05:20] <rcjsuen> as NoobFukaire noted above, it compares the references
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[05:06:34] <kesselhaus> hmm, no wonder the namechecker for CDT codan doesn't trigger ;/
[05:08:07] <kesselhaus> so which ones would you prefer str.equals("..")  or str.contentEquals("..") or str.matches("..")?
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[05:13:19] <Niriven> Does anyone how to lock a toolbar that was created from an extension point so it doesnt get pushed around the screen when other toolbars show up?
[05:28:14] <nitind> Doesn't sound fair to the rest of the toolbars.
[05:30:03] <Niriven> :P i wanna destroy the other toolbars ;)
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[06:46:59] <tutysra> hi room
[06:48:20] <tutysra> i have a dual boot system with windows and linux
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[07:10:21] <dweis> hi everyone - is there a way for me to inspect what commands eclipse is outputting to compile and run my code?
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[07:12:46] <NoobFukaire> To get equinox's logger service to output to console do I have to enable some system property or something?
[07:13:08] <NoobFukaire> I have the logger bundle in my osgi env and can access it from other bundles and submit a log statment
[07:13:17] <NoobFukaire> but I don't get output to stdout or whatever
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[07:21:46] <NoobFukaire> ah, nm I misunderstood what the logger service does
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[07:57:42] <mick_laptop> hi everyone, what version is eclipse 3.3?
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[08:00:47] <Odin_> 3.5 is the current (as of Jun 2009)
[08:01:11] <Odin_> 3.3 would be from Jun 2007 (they have a yearly release cycle)
[08:02:34] <mick_laptop> Europa, found it
[08:02:42] <mick_laptop> flex builder wants 3.3
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[08:15:14] <fruitloops> ok. linux, install eclipse. I hit save, the frikkin class file is updated, inside the same folder as source (or bin if I've set itup that way, not the issue) osx, same install, I hit save, or manual build, no damn class file - how and why?
[08:15:21] <fruitloops> where is the class file going?
[08:16:04] <fruitloops> damnit I just created a new project to test it, slapped a class in, hit save, I have .claspath, .project and one .java - no .class
[08:16:07] <fruitloops> where are the .class files
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[09:12:22] <fhenning09> Quick question
[09:12:36] <fhenning09> Well actually two
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[09:13:05] <fhenning09> Is there an easy down to earth guide to configuring eclipse and getting usded to how to use it
[09:13:59] <fhenning09> I'm new and am reading tutorials on C++ for beginners also how do I return to the welcome screen?
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[09:17:17] <Odin_> I can not get my Eclipse to start up.. it just hangs on the splash screen doing nothing (no CPU usage)
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[10:18:55] <veleno> hello. has anyone already seen  Eclipse crash badly like this in mac osx 10.6.1 http://pastie.org/private/zfiwukjjh99v7leyodxtca  ?
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[10:21:12] <chevdor> hi there
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[10:49:54] <chevdor> hello, I am working on an open source project and I have  little problems with ant and eclipse. The ant part is ok, from the command line, I can do what I want. There is a target called 'run-fast'. I'd like to have this target ran when I hit the 'play' button in eclipse but eclipse seems to keep running ALL the targets available. Can someone give a hint ?
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[11:19:55] <pulse00> hi all. anyone knows if eclipse caches/saves the update sites somewhere else than in the eclipse folder itself under windows ? i've deleted an old eclipse installation from my programs folder, but as soon as i copy a fresh version of eclipse inside it, i don't see any update sites
[11:20:17] <pulse00> when i start the very same eclipse.exe from some other folder other than the program folder, everything is there as it should be
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[11:36:25] <roel-> when I have a maven project, and use profiles in there, doing a tomcat:run will fill out those properties for me. however, if I do run-on-server on my project, these are not filled out. is there a workaround for that?
[11:42:44] <deSilva> pulse00: did you use the old workspace?
[11:43:17] <pulse00> deSilva, i've even deleted the workspace directory and created a new one somewhere else
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[12:31:18] <Odin_> I can not get my Eclipse to start up.. it just hangs on the splash screen doing nothing (no CPU usage)
[12:31:26] <Odin_> the problem appears to be something in the workspace
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[12:35:06] <Odin_> when -clean really doesn't mean -clean
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[12:46:26] <aksn> Odin_, have you tried renaming workspace directory?
[12:46:37] <aksn> if it still happens, it's not the workspace
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[13:56:43] <rcjsuen> Odin_: I would try another workspace like what aksn suggested.
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[14:28:33] <KelloggsFrosties> hi there. i am trying to unit test my plugin. Is there some tutorial on how to create projects/packages/classfiles in the scope of an unit test?
[14:30:21] <KelloggsFrosties> up to now i just managed to create and open a project using IProject.create()/open(), but now my test is in need of packages and classes.
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[14:32:11] <rcjsuen> You'd have to setup a java project with classpath and everything, I suggest you look at JDT's unit tests.
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[14:38:35] <KelloggsFrosties> rcjsuen: found the cvs. very good hint! thank you.
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[15:12:24] <pw_^> Anyone here?
[15:16:20] <deSilva> nope, just you
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[15:17:42] <pw_^> Lol.. I'm using Eclipse for java, and in my Package explorer I had packages inside other packages (i.e package loginserver.packets would just be "packets" inside the loginserver package) but now it's jsut loginserver.packets; how can I fix this?
[15:19:30] <rcjsuen_> pw_^: Rephrase that.
[15:19:59] <pw_^> rcjsuen_: what?
[15:20:09] <rcjsuen_> pw_^: Well you know what "rephrase" means right
[15:20:15] <rcjsuen_> pw_^: Put what you said above, in different words.
[15:20:17] <FauxFaux> Arrow in the top-right of the explorer -> package presentation -> heirachical.
[15:21:06] <rcjsuen_> if we _are_ talking about altering the UI, then what FauxFaux said, you can follow the screenshots if youw ant http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_alter_my_package_representation_so_that_parent_packages_are_housing_child_packages.3F
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[15:21:59] <pw_^> FauxFaux: Worked, thanks!
[15:23:51] <FauxFaux> The one I can never find is "Fold empty packages in heirachical layout in package and project explorer", but that's because it doesn't actually work until you switch perspective for areason I don't want to know.
[15:24:22] <rcjsuen_> FauxFaux: bug report dude
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[15:24:37] <rcjsuen_> Certainly sounds very weird tho
[15:24:39] <FauxFaux> rcjsuen_: It's got a huage note on it stating that it won't work. :)
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[15:39:50] <JeffJohnson> howdy
[15:40:34] <JeffJohnson> When I try to install the groovy eclipse Plugin I always get the error 404 Not found "org.apache.commons" on the groovy plugin server(codehaus) anybody an idea? Is this an plugin? :O
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[15:41:53] <rcjsuen_> probably something the groovy plug-in wants as a dependency anyway it sounds ilke
[15:42:36] <JeffJohnson> yes
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[17:51:15] <pradeep_india> helo
[17:51:28] <pradeep_india> any body know english here
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[17:51:31] <pradeep_india> ??
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[17:54:30] <NoobFukaire> pradeep_india: don't ask to ask
[17:54:46] <pradeep_india> hello
[17:54:50] <pradeep_india> Noob
[17:55:11] <rcjsuen_> pradeep_india: Most people here have a grasp of the English language.
[17:55:44] <pradeep_india> okay its alright this is my first time
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[17:58:19] <Poundo> I can't get Eclipse PDT to launch  my PHP Web page in an external browser like FF nor in the internal one for that matter
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[18:04:36] <t0th_-> i
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[18:05:00] <t0th_-> i use eclipse galileu but when i open a project it show me building workspace
[18:05:02] <t0th_-> can help?
[18:05:07] <t0th_-> building workspace 0%
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[18:08:30] <NoobFukaire> toth_-: what OS?
[18:09:13] <Poundo> I have a fundamental problem, I can't get Eclipse PDT to launch  my PHP Web page in an external browser like FF nor in the internal one for that matter. It's like PDT is broken I can create projects files etc but not browse then scripts nor web pages
[18:09:19] <NoobFukaire> I've had that issue before with Eclipse on Ubuntu (Linux). It was because I had GNU's Java installed and used by default, but it has problems with complex apps like Eclipse
[18:09:38] <NoobFukaire> So installing Sun's Java or OpenJDK made that problem disappear
[18:09:41] <Poundo> so how do I caheck the java version?
[18:09:49] <t0th_-> Windows Vista
[18:09:51] <t0th_-> NoobFukaire
[18:09:56] <Poundo> no windows 2003
[18:10:06] <Poundo> windows server 2003
[18:10:12] <NoobFukaire> Poundo: I believe you can choose how to launch web stuff in preferences
[18:10:23] <NoobFukaire> i.e. using an external browser vs the builtin SWT one
[18:10:51] <NoobFukaire> toth_-: what does java -version say?
[18:10:54] <NoobFukaire> from cmd.exe
[18:11:05] <Poundo> yea I have tried switching those around. I would be happy if I could just get somethingto show in the console window
[18:11:19] <NoobFukaire> in console?
[18:12:13] <Poundo> yeayes when I run a PHP script output should show in the console window in Eclipse
[18:12:19] <Poundo> yes
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[18:12:29] <NoobFukaire> ah, hmm
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[18:12:43] <NoobFukaire> You could use an external process
[18:13:00] <NoobFukaire> that launches the php executable and passes it your scripts
[18:13:15] <NoobFukaire> using the External Tool runner
[18:14:32] <t0th_-> NoobFukaire 1.6.0_07
[18:14:35] <Poundo> probably a good work around but I have to get the PDT engine to at least show me it is working
[18:14:56] <NoobFukaire> toth_-: although that should work fine, you may want to upgrade to the latest version
[18:15:00] <Poundo> checked my java is .....
[18:15:18] <NoobFukaire> your version is a little out of date, minor revision wise
[18:15:37] <Poundo> 1.6.0_16-b01
[18:15:48] <NoobFukaire> that's really recent, if not the latest version
[18:15:53] <t0th_-> upgrae java?
[18:16:20] <Poundo> toth_: wha!
[18:16:34] <t0th_-> how upgrade?
[18:16:52] <Poundo> I downloaded it from Sun
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[18:17:53] <t0th_-> i have 1.6.0_16 instaled too
[18:18:06] <t0th_-> i change the preferences of eclipse to this version
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[18:22:34] <Poundo> t0th_-: what setting did you change?
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[18:32:48] <epalm> eclipse 3.4.0: how can i prevent Search -> File from looking into .svn directories?
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[19:31:19] <Poundo> latest fact, I am unable to create a server. The finish button is greyed out after I enter the Host Name and put Apache in the server type box.
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[19:31:58] <Poundo> I went to Sunand varified that the JRE is updated and working correctly GAG!
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[19:38:42] <neekers> hi installed psyco and i'm still getting this error: pydev debugger: warning: psyco not available for speedups
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[19:46:16] <RdeWilde> Q; Anyone can help me adding multiple childs to an SDO instance? I got this: "Caused by: java.lang.ClassCastException: java.util.Collections$SingletonList cannot be cast to org.eclipse.emf.ecore.InternalEObject". Where to go?
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[19:48:57] <epalm> eclipse 3.4.0: how can i prevent Search -> File from looking into .svn directories?
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[19:52:01] <neekers> why cant shit just work?
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[19:52:34] <Poundo> neekers: you da man, why indeed
[19:52:34] <kesselhaus> it happens to do...
[19:52:39] <RdeWilde> Cause that'll get messy?
[19:52:46] <neekers> heh
[19:53:19] <RdeWilde> Shit can't do shit, cause it's just shit, right?
[19:53:38] <neekers> shit yeah.
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[19:56:45] <pw_^> What was the command to open a secon eclipse window?
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[19:59:44] <rcjsuen_> pw_^: Window > New Window?
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[20:18:00] <pw_^> rcjsuen_: yes, already found it, thanks anyway :)
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[20:27:09] <ocean> hullo?
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[20:27:43] <ocean> is there a way to programatically change the eclipse theme?
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[20:30:25] <charley> ocean: not sure, but is this approximately what you need? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/96981/color-themes-for-eclipse
[20:31:11] <charley> though programmatically swapping files in your workspace metadata sounds a bit iffy
[20:31:15] <ocean> yeah I saw that, but I find that mutating the ITheme registries does nothing
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[20:32:58] <ocean> hmmm ok maybe the problem is I'm doing it before the window opens
[20:33:07] <ocean> thanks for the help charley
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[20:41:23] <charley> ocean: no worries, though I didn't do much :)
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[20:47:56] <RdeWilde> Q; Anyone can help me with SDO? I'd like to add multiple childs to a sequence but I got errors whatever I try :(
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[20:56:29] <Odin_> aksn, rcjsuen_ another works space loads up fine "$HOME/workspace_clean" but I have not tried simply renaming it, trying now
[20:57:52] <Odin_> aksn, rcjsuen_ ok renaming the workspace just resulted in it creating me a new (empty) $HOME/workspace and that loads with welcome screen as expected
[20:58:55] <Odin_> I am now removing "osgi.instance.area.default= at user dot home/workspace" from eclipse/configuration/config.ini
[21:01:11] <Odin_> hmm it keeps on re-creating $HOME/workspace and doesn't prompt me for the workspace path
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[21:07:10] <kesselhaus> is there a way to reload a plugin in an runtime-workspace instead of restarting?
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[21:09:21] <rcjsuen_> HCR would kind of satisfy that constraint, otherwise no.
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[21:10:15] <Odin_> rcjsuen_, time to spend a few hours deleting one directory at a time in $HOME/workspace/.metadata/.plugins/* until it boots up
[21:10:45] <kesselhaus> HCR?
[21:10:57] <rcjsuen_> ~hcr
[21:10:57] <T-elos> http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_What_is_hot_code_replace%3F
[21:11:58] <Maclipse> Hi! I'm looking for a quickstart guide which describes some basics of Eclipse CDT (e.g. set gcc options, how to create an empty c project and compile a hello world). Any recommendations?
[21:12:10] <Odin_> damn thats annoying.....  I copied from my broken (non-booting workspace) no project but only the .metadata and Eclipse now boots, so the problem is inside a specific "project"
[21:12:15] <rcjsuen_> Maclipse: there's some howtos in the ~cdt-faq i believe
[21:12:15] <T-elos> Looking for all of the answers related to CDT, or just most of them?  Check out the mighty CDT-FAQ (http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ).
[21:13:01] <kesselhaus> rcjsuen_: so i would need to start "Debug" rather then "Run" to make that work?
[21:13:07] <Maclipse> rcjsuen_, sorry, I don't know what you mean by "~cdt-faq" (I'm here for the first time)
[21:13:16] <rcjsuen_> Maclipse: see what T-elos said
[21:13:30] <rcjsuen_> kesselhaus: I believe that's what the wiki article says. Am I mistaken?
[21:13:33] <Maclipse> oh ok, thanks a lot
[21:14:07] <kesselhaus> rcjsuen_: well, .. I'm just not used to it in the C world I usually work in
[21:14:51] <rcjsuen_> kesselhaus: Not used to what exactly.
[21:15:55] <kesselhaus> java programming, hot code replace, self-hosted environments
[21:16:51] <rcjsuen_> I'm not sure how this is related to run/debug here. :o
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[21:18:25] <kesselhaus> related to replace code at runtime... in my embedded world. its all or nothing
[21:20:07] <Odin_> only 17 files across my workspace, that are not in .metadata that were modified within the last 30minutes of the point in time when eclipse decided it won't boot up anymore
[21:20:13] <kesselhaus> does someone here work on CDT?
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[21:22:48] <Odin_> is there a workspace tools for working through the entire workspace and its configuration and copying it to another workspace and extracting anything that is a setting and verifying it is still current
[21:23:27] <RdeWilde> How do I add to or more childs (already create as DataObject s) to a commonj.sdo.DataObject?
[21:23:51] <Odin_> I want to extract current and valid settings, from indexes and temporary data, from old platform settings no longer in use, from old projects no longer in the workspace area, etc...  my .metadata is 450Mb after maybe 4 years worth of Eclipse use
[21:23:52] <rcjsuen_> kesselhaus: Unfortunately CDT's representation is low here...well, so's JDT...and many other Eclipse.org projects in general. ;)
[21:24:29] <rcjsuen_> Odin_: Could first do a du -sh */ and assess which ones are taking up space.
[21:24:49] <kesselhaus> hmm, to sad... i thought i could get a hands-on training on the AST ;)
[21:25:40] <rcjsuen_> you should email cdt-dev list if you are interested in contributing to CDT
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[21:26:15] <Odin_> top offenders... 150M org.eclipse.jdt.core, 104M org.maven.ide.eclipse, 70M org.eclipse.core.resources, 45M org.jboss.tools.common.projecttemplates
[21:28:41] <Odin_> most of the data in org.eclipse.jdt.core/ is *.index files
[21:29:56] <Odin_> nothing in org.eclipse.jdt.core/ looks like any kind of setting, it all looks like index related data
[21:32:46] <rcjsuen_> That would be a correct assessment in my opinion.
[21:32:49] <rcjsuen_> dunno what maven does
[21:32:55] <rcjsuen_> resources would be your cached files
[21:32:58] <rcjsuen_> dunno jboss
[21:33:10] <rcjsuen_> you could wipe jdt core and let it reindex if you have time lying around
[21:33:13] <Odin_> it seems to ne "nexus" which I think is their local repo cache
[21:33:14] <rcjsuen_> maybe it'll be back to 150? i don't know
[21:33:55] <Odin_> I am wasting hours (so far) by not having a working eclipse workspace
[21:34:47] <Poundo> do I have to define a server with an first time install of Eclipse/PDT
[21:35:11] <Poundo> initial install that is
[21:35:37] <kesselhaus> Odin_: why not export your projects and workspace settings and/or just make a new workspace and import from the old?
[21:35:55] <Odin_> the hang of splashscreen is often on org.eclipse.wst.common.modulecode (but sometimes a different plugin)
[21:36:34] <glima> hi, all
[21:36:35] <Odin_> you can "export your workspace settings" ?? and you can do that without needing to start up eclipse on that workspace (i.e. the issue is hanging on the splash screen when eclipse boots)
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[21:37:11] <glima> could anyone give me a help on creating a cdt.core.templateProcessType extension?
[21:37:26] <kesselhaus> Odin_: maybe it can be done in a headless eclipse?
[21:37:39] <glima> i just need to know how to tell eclipse where to find the process's java class
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[21:39:10] <Upgreydd> hi guys, i have a question is there a way to clean all eclipse addons? I wonna make a clean install so i need to purge all things, i wonna leave only a Eclipse Main Core + Updater
[21:40:53] <rcjsuen_> Upgreydd: define "core"
[21:41:11] <rcjsuen_> like "i just have a text editor" or like "headless no UI"
[21:41:39] <Odin_> Upgreydd, you mean like download just the "eclipse platform" project, like at http://www.eclipse.org/platform/ or you mean something smaller ?
[21:41:41] <Upgreydd> i downloaded PDT, i wonna delete all pdt things :] I need to have only eclipse minimum version
[21:42:10] <Upgreydd> smaller, i wonna Eclipse PDT without PDT ;] Clean Eclipse
[21:43:09] <kesselhaus> installation history rollback?
[21:43:12] <Odin_> you want "Eclipse RCP" I think, if you are looking to create your own product out of effectively SWT+OSGi+workbench
[21:43:18] <rcjsuen_> why did you download pdt then :o
[21:43:25] <rcjsuen_> ~base-dl
[21:43:26] <T-elos> If you're looking for a small installation with just the Eclipse workbench (excluding JDT, PDE, etc.), then you should pick up the 'Platform Runtime Binary'. http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[21:45:10] <Upgreydd> Hmmm first i downloaded PDT, then aptina and after that a PHPEclipse and my Eclipse goes down ;] so i need a clean install to install only what i need
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[21:46:21] <Odin_> Upgreydd, are you looking to develop/evaluate "the platform" for use in another kind of product of your own ?
[21:47:05] <rcjsuen_> well installign pdt + phpeclipse is probably not a good idea
[21:47:12] <rcjsuen_> i wouldn't expect it to bring it down, but anyway
[21:47:24] <Upgreydd> Odin_: i'm using only a few things from PDT, few from aptina and few from PHPEclipse, i wonna make my own distro only for my use
[21:48:06] <Upgreydd> so i need onlly eclipse binary platform + updater, to install plugins wich i wonna use
[21:48:48] <Odin_> well if you use just "1" thing from PHPEclipse, you generally need all its pre-reqs, until you can prove the 1 thing you are using will never call on something else, so you might as well start with the largest thing
[21:48:52] <rcjsuen_> what you want will probably be difficult to achieve
[21:49:01] <Poundo> has anyone installed Eclipse/PDT on windows server 2003
[21:49:36] <sonikku> weeee, eclipse package installation blew up.... not sure what I did to it =P
[21:49:48] <Odin_> Poundo, there is little/no difference between windows environment, AFAIK
[21:49:51] <Upgreydd> hmmm so best way is install PHPEclipse + aptina? :]
[21:50:09] <Odin_> yes, does PHPEclipse come with PDE too ?
[21:50:58] <rcjsuen_> Odin_: I think not.
[21:51:10] <rcjsuen_> be kind of weird if it did
[21:51:14] <Odin_> oh sorry, PDT refers to PHPEclipse area ?  PHP Development Tools ?  (I'm not used to PDT, only people using the term PDE, for Plugin Development Environment)
[21:51:51] <Odin_> http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/downloads/
[21:51:52] <Odin_> ~pdt
[21:52:39] <Upgreydd> Odin_: waint i must go out for a moment
[21:52:50] <Upgreydd> i'll back for 10-20 min.
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[21:57:53] <sonikku> any ideas what would be causing this error when I try adding features in Galileo? http://pastebin.com/d6795a9a4
[21:58:58] <Odin_> sonikku, ls -l /home/areeves/bin/eclipse-3.5/configuration
[21:59:43] <Odin_> sonikku, if eclipse boots can you see the configuration area set in Help -> About Eclipse -> Configuration, for equinox
[22:00:01] <Odin_> sonikku,  maybe you can post both in another pastebin
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[22:04:22] <Odin_> the other place it hangs (on the eclipse splash screen) is at org.eclipse.jst.j2ee
[22:05:04] <Odin_> the last thing printed to stdout/stderr (with loggings/debugging enabled) is: ->started org.eclipse.wst.common.project.facet.core_1.4.0.v200906080535 [630]
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[22:09:02] <Upgreydd> Odin_: so wichone a eclipse platform is the cleanest
[22:09:35] <Upgreydd> i wonna install PHPEclipse + aptina to it
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[22:09:54] <Odin_> would be my guess
[22:09:55] <rcjsuen_> Upgreydd: did you see what T-elos said earlier?
[22:10:12] <rcjsuen_> Think that is what you are looking for.
[22:10:14] <Odin_> you want PDT not PDE (as I had errornously stated)
[22:10:48] <Odin_> if you install anything less than PHPEclipse + aptina, then you risk some features of either not working
[22:12:03] <Upgreydd> rcjsuen_: i know but i can't find that
[22:12:11] <rcjsuen_> Upgreydd: Did you click one of the versions on that page?
[22:12:18] <Odin_> any ideas on how to force CPU affinity to the Eclipse process during startup... I want to force single CPU executation (to see if the issue is a threading issue)
[22:12:54] <Upgreydd> ok i got it :]
[22:13:01] <rcjsuen_> :p
[22:13:03] <Upgreydd> thanks guys :]
[22:13:18] <Upgreydd> i go sleep now :] Cya :]
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[22:14:43] <sonikku> Odin_, I don't see an equinox "area" really- I do see the configuration tab with tons and tons of stuff in it
[22:14:49] <sonikku> http://pastebin.com/d5bda6628
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[22:18:13] <Odin_> everything look ok, and you have a dir /home/areeves/bin/eclipse-3.5/p2  ?
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[22:19:46] <sonikku> yea, contains org.eclipse.equinox.p2.core    org.eclipse.equinox.p2.repository  org.eclipse.equinox.p2.engine
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[22:21:23] <sonikku> are there any configuration caches or anything that might have become inconsistant that can be purged?  (iunno how the eclipse installer works...)
[22:21:39] <Odin_> I presume you use -clean when starting eclipse up
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[22:25:46] <sonikku> i don't use -clean explicitly, no, but i just closed the application and restarted it with the -clean switch to no avail
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[22:28:20] <sonikku> meh
[22:28:26] <Odin_> rcjsuen_, okay i have issued a SIGQUIT to my eclipse application
[22:28:30] <sonikku> at this point its probably easier to just reinstall fresh
[22:28:46] <Odin_> I can see the "main" thread and the "org.eclipse.jdt.internal.ui.text.JavaReconciler" appears to have a dead-lock
[22:29:24] <Odin_> main thread has "locked <0x41770e98>" and is asleep but "waiting to lock <0x41379de8>"
[22:29:45] <rcjsuen_> there have been several complaints in the past tho those might be fixed in the coming SR1 release
[22:29:53] <Hackwar> hi guys, I want to update my eclipse PDT install. Unfortunately the update manager says something about an unresolvable conflict and I don't see a way to resolve this unless I'm reinstalling. Which files do I need to save for the configuration? Is the configuration folder enough?
[22:30:22] <Odin_> JavaReconsiler thread has "locked <0x41379de8>" and is asleep but "waiting to lock <0x41770e98>"
[22:30:37] <Odin_> <0x41379de8> relates to org.eclipse.core.internal.content.ContentTypeCatalog
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[22:30:51] <Odin_> <0x41770e98> org.eclipse.osgi.internal.baseadaptor.DefaultClassLoader
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[22:30:51] <rcjsuen_> I suggest you file a bug or go through bugzilla.
[22:30:56] * Odin_ starts to cry
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[22:31:55] <Odin_> can I turn off JavaReconciler, or at least make it happen after bootup
[22:32:10] <Odin_> it doesn't even sound important
[22:32:19] <Hackwar> hi guys, I want to update my eclipse PDT install. Unfortunately the update manager says something about an unresolvable conflict and I don't see a way to resolve this unless I'm reinstalling. Which files do I need to save for the configuration? Is the configuration folder enough?
[22:32:19] <NoobFukaire> whats the switch to tell equinox to log exception stack traces to console?
[22:32:31] <Odin_> P1 Raging Blocker, bug being filled now :)
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[22:32:41] <rcjsuen_> Odin_: Suggest you wipe the workbench.xml in your .metadata folder.
[22:32:50] <rcjsuen_> since it may be caused by an editor's reconciling
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[22:33:10] <rcjsuen_> think that might prevent the restoration of editors
[22:33:13] <Odin_> NoobFukaire,  -consoleLog ???
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[22:33:53] <NoobFukaire> Odin_: thank you
[22:34:47] <Odin_> rcjsuen_, maybe there should be crash recovery, if you bootup eclipse mutiple times but the JavaReconsiler (or some other unit of work) did not complete, it offers to skip non-important parts to so you can get back into the workspace
[22:35:16] <rcjsuen_> I'm not sure how one would determine whether something is "important" or not.
[22:35:35] <Odin_> restoring editors and exact workspace docking info, is not important
[22:35:50] <Odin_> initializing subsystems ready for use, is important
[22:38:04] <rcjsuen_> sure we could make a list but that doesn't really solve the problem
[22:38:54] <Odin_> solve the problem that there is no way a mortal user can fix, thats a clear product failure
[22:38:59] <Odin_> P1 Uber Blocker
[22:38:59] <rcjsuen_> It's not even clear to me why this is preventing the wb from coming up as the reconciler does not load on the UI thread IIRC.
[22:39:37] <Odin_> yes and this is the problem, the deadlock is just because it doesn't load on the UI thread, if it did, there would be no deadlock :)
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[22:43:24] <epalm> eclipse 3.4.0: how can i prevent Search -> File from looking into .svn directories?
[22:52:20] <Odin_> lol Java6 provides dead-lock information in the SIGQUIT output
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[23:12:38] <Odin_> ~bug289909
[23:12:40] <T-elos> Bug 289909 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=289909 - JDT / Text / 3.5 - PC / Linux - NEW / critical / - Assignee: jdt-text-inbox - JavaReconciler deadlock (during splash screen, eclipse workspace unusable)
[23:16:01] <Odin_> ok I renamed/removed org.eclipse.ui.workbench/workbench.xml and it is now working, thanks so much!
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[23:25:35] <toll_232123> I am pretty new to using eclipse for developing web apps, and I would like to add the mysql libs to my dynamic web project
[23:26:03] <toll_232123> I added the mysql.jar to my libs, and it didn't get automatically exported in the war - so I guess I should have added it elsewhere
[23:26:08] <toll_232123> any ideas?
[23:28:41] <toll_232123> ah, so just sticking it in the WEB-INF/libs causes it to be included
[23:29:20] <nitind> It's part of the spec.
[23:38:44] <sonikku> I've had problems with JDBC drivers deployed in wars under tomcat- at work we often make the JDBC driver part of the tomcat installation on the server
[23:39:25] <sonikku> dunno why that happens- but if you experience problems undeploying wars from a running tomcat, that might be why
[23:40:06] <sonikku> not even sure which driver it was now- might of been oracle
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[23:44:19] <toll_232123> I noticed that I have the option to create a java server faces file in my project,
[23:44:28] <toll_232123> is JSF widely used for web development?
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[23:55:34] <rcjsuen> Odin_: Seems like something from the j2ee plug-ins causing problems.
[23:57:05] <rcjsuen> perhaps lazily instantiating these factories may help
[23:58:11] <rcjsuen> Odin_: Regardless, thanks for the bug report.





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