[00:00:15] <proper_name> hello everyone: I have a newbeginner question for eclipse (running on linux) and I would appreciate if anyone could help :)
[00:00:51] <proper_name> I have an openGL project saved in Visual Studio and I want to open it under Eclipse
[00:00:54] <proper_name> can I do that?
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[00:07:49] <dash> howdy. i'm getting started with eclipse and I'm wondering what I should be reading to learn how to deal with multiple SVN branches for a project?
[00:08:07] <dash> or any VCS really
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[00:21:44] <synx`> help
[00:21:48] <synx`> i have phantom letters showing up in eclipse!
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[00:21:54] <synx`> print(grid) outputs:
[00:22:00] <synx`> print(grid)t   SyntaxError : invalid syntax
[00:22:40] <proper_name> could anyone tell me why  I wouldnt be able to open and run a basic c.cpp file under eclipse by using "open file"?
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[00:30:55] <dilton> proper_name: do you have the CDT plugin installed?
[00:31:23] <proper_name> i think i did
[00:31:44] <dilton> proper_name: http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/
[00:31:51] <proper_name> becs it lets me to create new "hello world" projects
[00:32:05] <rcjsuen> proper_name: You can't just open random files and run them.
[00:32:18] <proper_name> ah that s my problem rcjsuen
[00:32:23] <proper_name> what do i need to do? :(
[00:32:33] <rcjsuen> what you did above
[00:32:35] <rcjsuen> setup projects
[00:33:21] <dilton> rcjsuen: thanks I must have missed the "and run" part of the question ;-)
[00:33:32] <proper_name> i have a working cpp file and tried to open and run under the eclipse
[00:33:38] <proper_name> but it gave me error
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[00:35:23] <proper_name> rcjsuen:  setting up projects?
[00:35:53] <rcjsuen> i.e. create new projects
[00:36:08] <rcjsuen> with your cpp files in them
[00:36:11] <proper_name> ah so it always have to be a project to run?
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[00:38:06] <UDM[09]> anyone have a problem deleting files or folders after uploading with FTP in aptana
[00:38:38] <rcjsuen> UDM[09]: probably better mileage if you try in Aptana's forums
[00:38:46] <rcjsuen> proper_name: That's how it is in Java. I imagine the same for C/C++.
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[01:53:16] <IvoryZion> Just d/led Eclipse and started a new C project.  I have one source file with a main function that does nothing and I get this build error ---> /build/buildd/glibc-2.9/csu/../sysdeps/x86_64/elf/start.S:109: undefined reference to `main'
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[02:08:51] <hackel> Is there a way to automatically remove old versions of plugins?
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[02:37:46] <mdkess> I have this problem that Subclipse doesn't prompt me for a password ever, and so I cannot check anything into my SVN repository - any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?
[02:40:53] <mdkess> Or where I go to set the password for the repository?
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[02:53:37] <morenojee> hello folk! is there any plugin or built-in character-map available for "eclipse galileo"?
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[02:57:44] <morenojee> i need character-map table within "ecipse galileo" if possible? is there such a plugin available? huh...anyone knows....
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[03:17:30] <Kira> Which repository is supposed to contain org.eclipse.jet/org.eclipse.update.feature?
[03:18:22] <Kira> I have been trying to install Spring IDE and SpringSource Tool Suite since last night and I'm getting really pissed off by these stupid error messages telling me it can't find a repository containing this or that.
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[03:34:54] <bfrog> is there a reason vep isn't installable?
[03:35:13] <bfrog> I keep getting dependency errors
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[04:19:36] <NoobFukaire> On this page for equinox: http://eclipse.org/equinox/documents/quickstart.php
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[04:19:59] <NoobFukaire> it says you only need to do this to get a basic OSGi container up and running: java -jar org.eclipse.osgi_3.2.0.jar -console
[04:20:09] <NoobFukaire> but that doesn't seem to work on recent versions
[04:20:26] <NoobFukaire> is there documentation somewhere that might discuss recent changes?
[04:20:48] <NoobFukaire> I'm trying: java -jar org.eclipse.osgi_3.5.0.v20090520.jar -console
[04:20:52] <NoobFukaire> but I'm not getting anything
[04:20:58] <NoobFukaire> is there a main class I can specify?
[04:21:09] <NoobFukaire> I've looked through the jar, but it's calling some eclipse startup class
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[04:21:15] <NoobFukaire> in the jar manifest
[04:21:47] <NoobFukaire> I'm trying to switch from apache felix, as equinox seems more complete wrt to osgi features outside core
[04:22:51] <rcjsuen> you may need the actual launcher jar
[04:23:14] <rcjsuen> rcjsuen@ivalice ~/bot $ java -classpath plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.0.0.v20070319.jar org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main -console -noexit
[04:23:15] <rcjsuen> for example
[04:23:25] <NoobFukaire> thanks, I'll try it out
[04:23:45] <rcjsuen> or just java -jar
[04:23:50] <rcjsuen> i think the Main-Class is specified
[04:23:53] <rcjsuen> but if not well
[04:23:56] <rcjsuen> there it is for you anyway
[04:24:17] <NoobFukaire> awesome, works great, you're the man :)
[04:24:21] <NoobFukaire> thank you
[04:25:01] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaire: Please file a bug requesting the website be updated.
[04:25:46] <NoobFukaire> will do, although I'm closer I still need to figure something out
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[04:26:09] <NoobFukaire> if I use just the launcher jar and the osgi one, I'm still getting no console
[04:26:18] <NoobFukaire> but let me try to make sure the cp is setup properl
[04:26:41] <rcjsuen> Well the one sent to the JVM should only consist of the launcher
[04:27:41] <rcjsuen> Note that I do have a configuration directoy
[04:27:41] <rcjsuen> which may be related
[04:30:41] <NoobFukaire> okay, if I run the org.eclipse.osgi jar from the plugins directory, it seems to work also
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[04:31:26] <NoobFukaire> which I assume would mean a configuration dir wouldn't apply, since it wouldn't find one when I launch inside /plugins
[04:32:11] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaire: yes i just removed mine and it worked too
[04:32:12] <NoobFukaire> oh my bad
[04:32:21] <rcjsuen> i mean, i rm -rf'd my config dir
[04:32:31] <NoobFukaire> there's a configuration directory in my plugins folder :)
[04:32:34] <rcjsuen> it seems to regen it after the console comes up
[04:32:35] <NoobFukaire> I missed it
[04:32:37] <NoobFukaire> oh ok
[04:32:39] <rcjsuen> so it seems to be irrelevant
[04:33:27] <NoobFukaire> hmm, can equinox search inside the classpath directories for jars/bundles it needs if it doesn't find them explicitly specified?
[04:34:48] <rcjsuen> it seems to me just the launcher + org.eclipse.osgi is enough for the console
[04:34:56] <NoobFukaire> http://heshans.blogspot.com/2009/08/building-osgi-bundles-using-maven.html
[04:35:04] <NoobFukaire> yeah this guy seems to be doing okay with that method
[04:36:01] <NoobFukaire> doh
[04:36:01] <rcjsuen> afaik OSGi should just scan the directory
[04:36:07] <rcjsuen> that's why your JVM classpath is _only_ the launcher jar
[04:36:12] <rcjsuen> or maybe this is an Equinox thing, i'm not sure
[04:36:25] <NoobFukaire> I didn't notice it was creating log files in configuration (which it generated) in the directory I was testing
[04:36:25] <rcjsuen> my equinox/osgi foo is pretty weak compared to others
[04:36:37] <NoobFukaire> so now I have more of an idea whats wrong
[04:36:43] <NoobFukaire> I'm getting: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/eclipse/osgi/internal/resolver/StateImpl
[04:37:22] <rcjsuen> seems this guy is correct, just having the osgi jar is enough for me too
[04:37:41] <rcjsuen> he's using a newer jar altho my folder is filled with old stuff, not that it seems to matter
[04:38:07] <NoobFukaire> yeah I'm trying to figure out what I'm newbing up here
[04:38:16] <NoobFukaire> this is pretty straightforward stuff :)
[04:38:35] <rcjsuen> how did you get that NCDFE
[04:38:45] <rcjsuen> what did you invoke on the CLI?
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[04:39:15] <NoobFukaire> java -jar org.eclipse.osgi_3.5.0.v20090520.jar -console
[04:39:48] <rcjsuen> and doesn't work?
[04:39:53] <rcjsuen> i'm using an 2007 jar
[04:39:58] <rcjsuen> let me try fresh
[04:39:59] <NoobFukaire> nope, just goes to next line
[04:40:07] <NoobFukaire> throws that exception and logs it
[04:40:09] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaire: oh, add -noexit?
[04:40:14] <rcjsuen> oh wait you get an exception ;)
[04:40:27] <NoobFukaire> I just tried it in an otherwise empty dir too
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[04:40:43] <NoobFukaire> I thought maybe some of the other jars I had were doing something with classloading and causing the issue
[04:40:59] <rcjsuen> worksforme tho i am on 3.6
[04:41:09] <NoobFukaire> java version "1.6.0_16"
[04:41:35] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaire: http://pastebin.ca/1569193
[04:42:33] <NoobFukaire> this is odd
[04:43:01] <NoobFukaire> maybe I'll download a vm straight from sun
[04:43:14] <NoobFukaire> just to make sure the ubuntu devs didn't mess this up some how
[04:43:29] <NoobFukaire> because it's basically bone stock, I haven't done anything to the environment
[04:44:06] <NoobFukaire> hmm
[04:44:07] <rcjsuen> oh i forgot i have a 3.5 build
[04:44:09] <rcjsuen> i will try that
[04:44:13] <NoobFukaire> I just looked into my osgi jar
[04:44:30] <NoobFukaire> and org/eclipse/osgi/internal/resolver/StateImpl.class doesn't appear in there
[04:44:37] <rcjsuen> it is fine for me
[04:44:40] <rcjsuen> tho not a _real_ 3.5 build
[04:44:44] <rcjsuen> rcjsuen@ivalice ~/console $ java -jar org.eclipse.osgi_3.5.1.R35x_v20090806.jar -console
[04:44:50] <rcjsuen> but anyway....
[04:44:56] <NoobFukaire> let me download the osgi jar straight from the site
[04:45:06] <NoobFukaire> I just copied the one from my eclipse plugins dir
[04:45:09] <rcjsuen> rcjsuen@ivalice ~/console $ jar -tf org.eclipse.osgi_3.5.1.R35x_v20090806.jar | grep StateIm
[04:45:09] <rcjsuen> org/eclipse/osgi/internal/resolver/StateImpl.class
[04:45:11] <rcjsuen> Well I have it anyway.
[04:46:29] <NoobFukaire> the one from the site works
[04:47:14] <NoobFukaire> If the jars are tagged the same name (org.eclipse.osgi_3.5.0.v20090520.jar), should they have the same contents/hash value?
[04:47:24] <NoobFukaire> from the site vs included with the eclipse distribution?
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[04:48:31] <NoobFukaire> 1104	org.eclipse.osgi_3.5.0.v20090520.jar
[04:48:36] <rcjsuen> I think that would be
[04:48:36] <NoobFukaire> 1100	org.eclipse.osgi_3.5.0.v20090520.jar
[04:48:39] <rcjsuen> "I would like to hope so"
[04:48:51] <NoobFukaire> they're slightly different, seems like just that class or something
[04:48:53] <rcjsuen> That'd be a content integrity issue ;p
[04:49:08] <bfrog> what happens when I create a glcanvas with multiple gleventlistener objects attached?
[04:49:15] <NoobFukaire> let me redownload to see if it happened on my end somehow
[04:49:16] <bfrog> do they all get called and render?
[04:49:26] <NoobFukaire> how that would work, since the jar seems okay otherwise, I'm not sure
[04:50:11] <bfrog> er
[04:50:15] <bfrog> I meant to ask that in #java
[04:50:17] <bfrog> clearly
[04:50:59] <NoobFukaire> the events will get executed synchronously
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[04:52:04] <NoobFukaire> rcjsuen: thanks for the help, that one was a head scratcher
[04:52:24] <NoobFukaire> The website seems okay now, I'm going to see if this is a pebkac and if not I'll report it
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[04:53:34] <rcjsuen> thx, good luck
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[04:58:57] <NoobFukaire> that StateImpl class is in the file I just downloaded
[04:59:02] <NoobFukaire> now I'm worried :)
[04:59:12] <NoobFukaire> but at least it's not a bug, haha
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[05:21:13] <stiv2k_> hi,
[05:21:31] <stiv2k_> what is a good plugin to use for creating class diagrams of my code?
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[05:26:46] <TooR4u> Hi, i want to create a perl script editor plugin for eclipse. Where can i start from?
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[06:49:02] <nitind> ~289666
[06:49:05] <T-elos> Bug 289666 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=289666 - WTP Source Editing / jst.jsp / 3.2 - PC / Windows XP - ASSIGNED / normal / - Assignee: nitind - Add org.eclipse.jst.common.ui to org.eclipse.jst.web_ui.feature
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[07:23:46] <the8thbit> Hello
[07:25:02] <nitind> ~hi
[07:25:03] <T-elos> Welcome! If you have a question, just ask, or take a look at our FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ :) Try typing ~faq to see more FAQs! If you have errors or logs to show, see ~pastebin. If you have screenshots to share, see ~imagebin. If you need to describe your problem, please provide some ~info about your setup. Please be patient when waiting for a response. Thank you and enjoy your stay.
[07:25:05] <the8thbit> I have a C++ project set up, and I wrote a test source file with a simple hello world program in it to test it out, but I'm getting the error: "warning: iostream: No such file or directory", amongst others. What did I forget to do?
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[07:29:09] <the8thbit> :/
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[07:30:58] <nitind> You should probably at least ~pastebin your source.  It sounds like it compiled.
[07:30:59] <T-elos> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[07:31:33] <nitind> You do at least have iostream.h around somewhere, right?  I mean, it's not complaining about it missing, is it?
[07:31:49] <the8thbit> http://www.pastebin.cz/22922
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[07:32:17] <the8thbit> Yeah, I figure it has something to do with that
[07:32:37] <nitind> the8thbit: I think that's supposed to be #include <iostream.h> up top.  ##c (or ##c++ if it exists) might know better.
[07:32:58] <the8thbit> I'll try it
[07:33:00] <nitind> <> means an include file on the default include path, but you still need to use the proper file name.
[07:33:15] <nitind> If I remember my C++ from a decade ago, at least.
[07:33:22] <the8thbit> same errors
[07:33:31] <nitind> Does it actually exist somewhere?
[07:33:59] <the8thbit> You see, that's what I'm wondering
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[07:35:31] <the8thbit> I have some experience with C++, and some other languages, (Java, x86 Asm) but the linking always screws me up.
[07:35:43] <nitind> I don't think you're to that stage, yet.
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[07:36:08] <the8thbit> You don't think I'm to linking?
[07:36:28] <the8thbit> I assume this is an issue with linking to the iostream library, yes?
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[07:37:08] <deebo> how do i get my package explorer to display as a tree, for some reason its currently displaying as a "flat" tree, where every package is at the root
[07:37:18] <deebo> it basically justs all distinct packages and then their contents
[07:37:55] <the8thbit> I can view the library from the 'output' pane, if that helps any.
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[07:39:21] <deebo> found it!
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[07:45:15] <the8thbit> :/
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[08:58:33] <andrewz__> hi! how do i get eclipse to use suns java in ubuntu? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201378 didnt seem to work
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[09:23:25] <_julian> hi
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[09:24:29] <_julian> I am using eclipse cdt to write c++ code. and I am just wondering if it's possible to make the Source->Create Methods function, which generates methods out of the class header, create the functions with ClassName:: in front of the functionname, like it's needed for c++?
[09:24:33] <Elbowgreese> is there a plugin for eclipse that allows indent, outdent, comment a whole block of code and some nifty code buttons much like dreamweaver?
[09:25:03] <_julian> Elbowgreese: you can do that by just marking the block and press Tab or Shift+Tab
[09:25:50] <Elbowgreese> is there a manual where i can find those commands
[09:26:03] <Elbowgreese> and also what about the comment how do u comment out  ablock
[09:26:04] <Elbowgreese> ?
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[09:26:48] <_julian> Ctrl+/
[09:27:10] <Elbowgreese> wow
[09:27:15] <Elbowgreese> where can I find those commands?
[09:31:18] <_julian> I usually just browse through the context-menus of the editor. the commands are listed with shortcuts in there
[09:33:54] <Elbowgreese> aight
[09:33:55] <Elbowgreese> thanks
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[09:41:51] <SniperFodder> I'm using Eclipse Ganymede. Any reason why the Hover menu wouldn't trigger?
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[09:49:14] <nitind> What's a Hover menu?
[09:51:40] <SniperFodder> It's the menu that appears whenever you hover your cursor over a Class, method, object, etc etc etc
[09:52:05] <SniperFodder> it displays things like the javadoc, or suggestions for correcting errors
[09:52:25] <SniperFodder> it also appears when you call a method from an object. I.e. I type foo.
[09:52:35] <SniperFodder> and it lists .bar, .bar2, .bar3
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[10:05:48] <erdal> SniperFodder: search for "Hovers" and make sure there are any selections...
[10:05:56] <erdal> in preferences dialog
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[10:18:09] <SniperFodder> erdal: *Shrug* it was selected. I just re-installed eclipse and it's working now.
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[10:19:26] <erdal> SniperFodder: fine ;-)
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[10:26:57] <SniperFodder> Is UML2 tools availible for Ganymede?
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[11:06:19] <afancy> Hi, in exclipse how to compile and make a jar file?
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[11:28:02] <deSilva> afancy: use export?
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[12:31:30] <leonhard> Hi! Can I use the CDT debugger to debug programs that were not created as CDT projects? I have a huge program, compiled with debug information. How can I debug this executable with CDT?
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[12:32:34] <leonhard> I found "Debug configurations" -> "C/C++ Attach to local application", but I don't know what to enter for the project, because I don't have a project?
[12:35:01] <leonhard> With gdb, I can simply attach the debugger to some process <pid> using "gdb <program> <pid>". Does CDT have this option?
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[12:50:46] <andrewz__> how do i set my apache derby password and username?
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[12:52:40] <erdal> andrewz__: it depends on how the database is configured, i guess
[12:52:46] <erdal> are you using datatools
[12:54:59] <andrewz__> erdal: im using the eclipse plugins.  i installed from ubuntus synaptic package manager
[12:55:14] <erdal> what eclipse plugins?
[12:55:21] <andrewz__> hold on let me check =p
[12:56:20] <andrewz__> org.apache.derby.core_10.5.3
[12:56:21] <andrewz__> org.apache.derby.plugin.doc_1.1.2
[12:56:23] <andrewz__> org.apache.derby.ui_1.1.2
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[12:57:34] <erdal> are there no views to configure the database?
[12:57:43] <erdal> or preferences
[13:00:29] <erdal> what about this: http://db.apache.org/derby/integrate/plugin_howto.html
[13:02:14] <afancy> Hi, how to run the Mapreduce program on eclipse directly, instead of by commandline "bin/hadoop jar myprog.jar..."?
[13:04:36] <erdal> afancy: by setting up "External Tools Configurations"
[13:05:56] <andrewz__> erdal: already looked at that b4..
[13:06:33] <andrewz__> it shows you how to run etc
[13:06:41] <andrewz__> but i see nothing about configuring the db
[13:07:14] <erdal> andrewz__: you could try eclipse's datatools project
[13:07:27] <erdal> there is a frontend available for derby
[13:07:43] <andrewz__> thanks
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[13:08:37] <erdal> andrewz__: another client: http://db.apache.org/derby/integrate/SQuirreL_Derby.html
[13:09:05] <andrewz__> erdal: will it mess stuff up if i use both datatools AND the plugins i currently have?
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[13:09:33] <erdal> i think that depends on whether derby is run in embedded or network mode
[13:10:13] <erdal> imho, in embedded mode it can only handle one connection
[13:10:17] <andrewz__> ah.  i think it is in network mode
[13:10:25] <andrewz__> as its connecting on a port
[13:10:41] <erdal> just try out ;-)
[13:10:46] <andrewz__> ok :)
[13:12:12] <andrewz__> erdal: i just unzip the archive in ~/eclipse right
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[13:12:30] <erdal> are you going to use datatools?
[13:12:48] <andrewz__> yeah
[13:12:59] <andrewz__> the download is a .zip
[13:13:04] <erdal> there is no update site?
[13:14:27] <erdal> andrewz__: http://download.eclipse.org/datatools/updates
[13:14:42] <andrewz__> oh thanks! i didnt know about update sites yet
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[13:16:47] <andrewz__> sorry, i just started using eclipse today
[13:17:03] <erdal> no prob
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[13:20:00] <matrium> hi
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[13:20:25] <matrium> is there something similar to the FileDialog for folders?
[13:20:39] <matrium> or is it possible to make a FileDialog pick folders=
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[13:23:53] <matrium> ah, got it
[13:24:02] <matrium> DirectoryDialog :)
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[13:26:01] <JeffJohnson> howdy
[13:26:12] <JeffJohnson> how can I sync my Eclipse configuration between different installations?
[13:27:02] <amitz> Hi, I try to run linode over X11 forwarding. But after ./eclipse, the application just stop. I have checked that X11 forwarding works for other java application. Running "./eclipse -debug" print "Starting application: ???" as the last printed debug messages. Control is returned to console.
[13:27:27] <amitz> How to approach this problem. Eclipse 3.5.
[13:27:40] <NyB> is there a standard way in eclipse rcp to have an arbitrary event bus? I'd like to exchange data between views without them knowing about each other... The selection service is a start, but I'd like to have something a bit more generic and without side-effects
[13:27:41] <amitz> debian linux server.
[13:27:42] <andrewz__> erdal: it appears to be working.  where can i find the database configuration though?
[13:27:52] <andrewz__> so much stuff in eclipse!
[13:28:18] <erdal> there is a view "Data Source Explorer", i think
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[13:28:39] <erdal> you will have to configure a new connection...
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[13:31:27] <echosystm> does SWT generally perform better than swing?
[13:31:59] <echosystm> its kind of like AWT - using the native widgets, so it should be faster than drawing them all in java right?
[13:32:25] <rcjsuen> echosystm: supposedly it's not a big deal anymore
[13:32:32] <rcjsuen> it really depends on what you want at the end of the day i suppose
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[13:33:19] <andrewz__> erdal: thank you! i connect to it ok and everything, but i still don't see how to CHANGE the password, just how to use one to connect to the database
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[13:33:43] <erdal> andrewz__: there is no properties dialog?
[13:33:51] <andrewz__> or can the one i use to connect be anything, and the one i use in the code is the same
[13:33:59] <andrewz__> yeah im in the properties dialog
[13:34:32] <erdal> maybe, you will have to use sql to change your password
[13:34:44] <andrewz__> ah! i didnt know you could do that in SQL
[13:34:56] <andrewz__> hmm
[13:36:50] <rcjsuen> JeffJohnson: preferences are generally stored in the workspace if that's what you'r etalking about
[13:37:13] <andrewz__> this seems like something you would want to do every time you create a database, it is odd i can find no info on how to do it
[13:37:24] <JeffJohnson> rcjsuen: yeah, but afaik using same workspace with different installations isnt recommended
[13:37:38] <rcjsuen> JeffJohnson: I don't do that anyway, no.
[13:37:41] <erdal> try the developer guide of derby
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[13:38:11] <JeffJohnson> rcjsuen: and I want to have the same eclipse settings in all installations
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[13:38:20] <erdal> andrewz__: CALL SYSCS_UTIL.SYSCS_SET_DATABASE_PROPERTY(bootPassword', 'oldbpw , newbpw');
[13:38:27] <rcjsuen> you could export/import your preferences i suppose
[13:38:41] <JeffJohnson> rcjsuen: i would prefer an automatic sync:)
[13:38:41] <rcjsuen> that would cover most, but i will not guarante 100%
[13:38:58] <JeffJohnson> thought maybe there is an plugin for configuration syncing
[13:39:58] <erdal> andrewz__: http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5355259
[13:41:09] <andrewz__> erdal: ah thanks!
[13:42:33] <andrewz__> just what i needed :)
[13:42:49] <erdal> if executable extension are provided in plugin.xml which contain the parameter string, what is the best way to obtain just the class name without parameter string?
[13:43:28] <erdal> configElemenet.getAttribute("class") will return the whole string and i have to parse it myself...
[13:43:41] <erdal> is there a better way?
[13:43:46] <rcjsuen> erdal: Pretty sure no.
[13:43:50] <NyB> sigh.. there has to be some kind of generic event bus in eclipse, but I can't seem to find it. Should I implement an observer-pattern-something on my own ?
[13:44:06] <erdal> NyB: white board pattern?
[13:44:13] <rcjsuen> Could try using EventAdmin also.
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[13:45:33] <NyB> erdal, I need a well defined event concept... whiteboard is not so clean for that purpose
[13:46:14] <erdal> it is generic ;-)
[13:46:14] <rcjsuen> NyB: http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2009/09/15/osgi-eventadmin/
[13:48:05] <NyB> rcjsuen, seems interesting...
[13:48:48] <erdal> btw: EventAdmin = whiteboard pattern implementation?
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[13:49:04] <rcjsuen> erdal: I'm not familiar with the whiteboard pattern myself so I can't really say ;p
[13:49:26] <NyB> ATM I am considering to build something on my own, because there is a significant probability that I may have to drop anything beyond SWT/JFace for my project
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[13:51:11] <NyB> 99% of the events will be user generated and the app. is network-bound anyway so performance is not really an issue. EventAdmin seems somewhat of an overkill
[13:51:54] <rcjsuen> whatever works for you
[13:52:13] <NyB> rcjsuen, thanks for the suggestion anyway
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[14:14:22] <Beyonder> Hi. Is there a plugin for eclipse that does most of the things phpmyadmin can do?
[14:14:49] <jink> There are several database tools, afaik.
[14:15:24] <Beyonder> Well, I've found few 'database explorers' that had no interface for creating tables/rows etc.
[14:15:36] <Beyonder> Can you recomment some 'database tool'?
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[14:58:46] <chevdor> hello, i am trying to get some help. I work on an open source project (OctopusLog), I use eclipse and I have an issue with ant and javadoc. A file seem not to be found, but I can't figure out which file is missing. Could someone help ?
[15:02:42] <rcjsuen> chevdor: If you want help then describing the problem would be a good start.
[15:04:27] <chevdor> rcjsuen: sure I'd be happy to, just don't want to provide too much or too wrong info
[15:04:35] <chevdor> rcjsuen: here is the error
[15:04:47] <chevdor> rcjsuen: BUILD FAILED
[15:04:48] <chevdor> D:\Projects\OctopusLog\build.xml:147: Javadoc failed: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "javadoc.exe": CreateProcess error=2, The system cannot find the file specified
[15:05:31] <rcjsuen> Probably because javadoc is not on your %PATH%.
[15:06:15] <chevdor> rcjsuen: this is something to setup in build.xml ?
[15:06:42] <rcjsuen> well, you should first confirm it is on your %PATH% via the command line I suppose
[15:06:45] <rcjsuen> or perhaps
[15:06:51] <rcjsuen> you should first confirm you have javadoc
[15:07:18] <chevdor> rcjsuen: build.xml refers to a build.properties and I checked out that last file and it does contain the right path : java-1_6.dir=C:/Program Files/Java/jdk1.6.0_16/
[15:07:28] <chevdor> rcjsuen: i confirm I do have javadoc
[15:08:03] <rcjsuen> well confirm it's on your path then
[15:08:03] <chevdor> rcjsuen: using the 'generate javadoc' under the Project menu item does the job
[15:08:36] <chevdor> rcjsuen: but building the whole project fails when it comes to generating the doc
[15:09:59] <chevdor> rcjsuen: shall i add C:/Program Files/Java/jdk1.6.0_16/ or C:/Program Files/Java/jdk1.6.0_16/bin to my %PATH% ?
[15:10:36] <rcjsuen> if it's not then that might be a good idea i suppose
[15:10:44] <rcjsuen> alternatively you can check Ant's website
[15:10:47] <rcjsuen> and see how the javadoc task is used
[15:10:54] <rcjsuen> or how it's supposed to be setup
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[15:11:06] <chevdor> rcjsuen: oki thx for the pointers i'll check it out
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[15:12:53] <chevdor> rcjsuen: but i doubt this is a path problem otherwise, the 'generate javadoc' action would not work and it does
[15:13:22] <rcjsuen> on the contrary
[15:13:27] <rcjsuen> you should look at the top of that action's UI
[15:13:44] <chevdor> rcjsuen: ah ok
[15:14:30] <rcjsuen> chevdor: It is "hardcoded" in http://www.tc33.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/javadoc11.jpg
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[15:15:28] <chevdor> rcjsuen u r right
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[16:37:54] <Echidna> how can i make a FocusListener trigger whenever another view in the same perspective ahs been clicked
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[16:38:09] <Echidna> form.getBody().getShell().addFocusListener(focusListener);
[16:38:17] <Echidna> thats what i add it to
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[16:40:45] <paulweb515> Focus events are local to the control in question ... you can't add one general listener (at least not that way)
[16:41:17] <paulweb515> Echidna: you want an IPartListener2 ... an activated event will tell you when another view has been clicked
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[16:42:21] <Echidna> paulweb515: well the idea is that whenever anything else in that perspective is clicked (nm the view), that form will force the focus back onto itself
[16:42:46] <rcjsuen> what?
[16:42:51] <rcjsuen> what's the point of me clicking on something else then
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[16:44:27] <Echidna> rcjsuen: for example, if you want to push a button in a different view, but continue to enter data into the form with the numpad
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[16:45:09] <rcjsuen> not sure if i agree with that pattern
[16:45:15] <rcjsuen> still, what Paul suggested is right, you want a part listener
[16:46:31] <Echidna> ok
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[17:00:01] <paulweb515> Echidna: the problem will be you will have to create a WorkbenchJob to request your part be re-activated (since you can't activate one part while another is still activating)
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[17:01:06] <Echidna> =/
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[17:08:22] <keya> Hi.  Can someone please tell me how can I add an 'undocked' version of the view in a perspective?  Is it possible?
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[17:11:33] <rcjsuen> Don't think so but I could be wrong.
[17:13:11] <keya> rcjsuen: What does IPageLayout#addStandaloneView() is used for?
[17:13:26] <rcjsuen> keya: think it means there's no tab folder
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[17:14:08] <keya> rcjsuen: oh.  there should be something to undock a view.
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[17:19:26] <Echidna> paulweb515: calling activation in a Display.getCurrent().asyncExec seems to work
[17:19:50] <Echidna> but i'm not sure how to properly attach the listener to just one view
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[17:20:05] <keya> Any way to programatically undock a view?
[17:20:12] <Echidna> it seems to get the disabled call no matter where i click
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[17:20:13] <rcjsuen> keya: probably no API anyway
[17:20:36] <ecfuser94940> hi
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[17:21:05] <keya> rcjsuen: Okay. Thanks.
[17:21:29] <rcjsuen> keya: use brute force breakpoints if you have to, wouldn't be hard from looking at the trace
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[17:22:20] <keya> rcjsuen: Yeah that's the option.  But anyway it's not very important for now.  so will leave it for later.  Thank you.
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[17:23:43] <rcjsuen> Echidna: dunno what you're talking about
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[17:24:48] <_markus__> There is the uml2 tool available for eclipse, however I can't find a reverse engineer functionality. Is it missing or am I just too blind to find it? Or is this the wrong package? I'm using UML2 tools sdk.
[17:24:48] <Echidna> rcjsuen: paul said i'd need to create a WorkbenchJob to re-activate the view
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[17:25:19] <rcjsuen> Echidna: right, your way would work too (as you observed)
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[17:26:19] <Echidna> rcjsuen. i add the listener via getSite().getPage().addPartListener(partListener); in createPartControl
[17:26:22] <Echidna> is that correct?
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[17:27:03] <Echidna> the partDeactivated method is called no matter which view i click
[17:27:13] <Echidna> so i was thinking it adds the listener to all
[17:27:38] <rcjsuen> it's a global listener
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[18:03:27] <mcahornsirup> anyone familiar with eclipselink or toplink JPA provider? Can I use multiple Collections with the same type within one entity? Like ... private List<Person> male ... private List<Person> female
[18:09:00] <mcahornsirup> @Entitiy
[18:09:00] <mcahornsirup> public class PersonRepository implements serializable {
[18:09:01] <mcahornsirup>     @OneToMany(cascade = CascadeType.ALL)
[18:09:01] <mcahornsirup>     private List<Person> male = new ArrayList<Person>();
[18:09:01] <mcahornsirup>     @OneToMany(cascade = CascadeType.ALL)
[18:09:02] <mcahornsirup>     private List<Person> female = new ArrayList<Person>();
[18:09:03] <mcahornsirup> /setter-getter
[18:09:05] <mcahornsirup> ...
[18:09:07] <mcahornsirup> }
[18:09:11] <mcahornsirup> sorry for the mess...
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[18:21:51] <hrad> hey, we've got an issue in Ganymed EE edition with team synchro perspective...that if I need to commit conflicting changes like this http://pastebin.com/d3f52798a ...there is practically no way of putting the "type" field in between those two
[18:22:48] <hrad> could anybody take a look at that ? or tell me what I'm missing
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[18:50:02] <paulweb515> mcahornsirup: in the future, ~pastebin
[18:50:02] <T-elos> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[19:02:21] <NoobFukaure> http://www.osgi.org/javadoc/r4v42/org/osgi/service/wireadmin/WireAdmin.html#createWire(java.lang.String,%20java.lang.String,%20java.util.Dictionary)
[19:02:34] <NoobFukaure> does anyone know what they mean by the PIDs in that argumnt?
[19:02:38] <NoobFukaure> *argument?
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[19:02:47] <darkfrog> hey guys, I'm using Subclipse and my repository location has been moved from trunk/ to tags/1.1/ and I need to switch...can someone tell me if I can do that?
[19:02:49] <NoobFukaure> Is that something that's implementation specific or what?
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[19:06:03] <NoobFukaure> is it the same as Constants.SERVER_PID
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[19:06:04] <NoobFukaure> >
[19:06:05] <NoobFukaure> ?
[19:06:12] <NoobFukaure> *SERVICE_PID rather
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[19:36:12] <IvoryZion> Just d/led Eclipse and started a new C project.  I have one source file with a main function that does nothing and I get this build error ---> /build/buildd/glibc-2.9/csu/../sysdeps/x86_64/elf/start.S:109: undefined reference to `main'
[19:36:31] <IvoryZion> I just opened an closed Eclipsed and this error disappeared.
[19:36:38] <IvoryZion> Didn't change anything.
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[19:41:20] <NoobFukaure> IvoryZion: this is an issue with your code and toolchain, really nothing to do with eclipse unless it's a managed project or something
[19:42:58] <IvoryZion> NoobFakaure: thanks for the tip.  I'm new to Eclipse, so I'm working a few things out to get going.
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[19:50:35] <blip-> hi all,  I'm running the latest ubuntu 9.04.   I want eclipse  mainly for Android ADT dev but may also use for Java.    Is there any reason I should get the eclipse from the website or will the one in the repos suffice ?   from what you I understand you can simply update through the interface
[19:51:02] <blip-> * -you
[19:51:37] <rcjsuen> blip-: the one in the repo is (probably) 3 years old
[19:51:44] <blip-> rcjsuen: wow
[19:51:47] <rcjsuen> blip-: i think it is 3.2.2-ubuntu-blah-blah-blah?
[19:51:51] <rcjsuen> blip-: well you can check manually to see
[19:52:07] <rcjsuen> I don't think they've updated...yet, but I could be wrong. I use Gentoo not Ubuntu *shrugs*
[19:52:28] <blip-> yeah I did it was 3.2.2.-5 ubuntu booblahblahboo
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[19:52:44] <rcjsuen> yeah that's 3 years old
[19:52:50] <rcjsuen> blip-: and ADT will not run on it
[19:52:54] <rcjsuen> at least...it says 3.3 / 3.4 anyway
[19:53:04] <rcjsuen> maybe it will...but Google will probably ignore you if you try ;)
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[19:53:05] <dilton> blip-: if it were me I'd see what Android recommends, for some playing around at home I used 3.4.2 and the latest Android about a month ago
[19:53:20] <blip-> what on earth are thse guys doing.  I remember last year asking about eclipse on a really old ubuntu 8.04 and sure enough the repos was old.    It still is .....
[19:54:30] <blip-> dilton: yeah they recommend the eclipse plugin.  I'll just get the latest eclipse, can't reply on the ubuntu packagers (or lack of)
[19:57:12] <rcjsuen> blip-: it is not easy to package Eclipse
[19:57:24] <rcjsuen> blip-: admittedly...we get people like you come in every day or two ;p
[19:57:28] <rcjsuen> and we tell them the same thing every day
[19:57:35] <blip-> haha :)
[19:58:41] <blip-> I don't quite understand how packaging works... but all I understand is the end result is a deb that's tested on the platform.      I don't see why that's needed when you have a program that's already distributed as a linux binary... e.g. Eclipse, Google Earth etc...
[19:59:53] <blip-> oh quick question, is it ok to have my workspace hidden ?  ie  ~/.workspace ?
[20:00:04] <blip-> or will it mess up eclipse internally
[20:02:40] <dilton> blip: good question, don't think I'd try it though :-D
[20:02:41] <rcjsuen> i dunno anyone that does that
[20:03:16] <rcjsuen> blip-: well that's probably part of it, no one feels a need to bother with packaging when eclipse is easy to untar+run
[20:04:34] <dilton> rcjsuen: I agree with that, easier to test code up/down rev
[20:05:42] <blip-> guys I've got some kind of problem with it,   I just untarred eclipse java from the website.  I start it, select a workpsace (the default) and press ok.  Then it freezes, I just see a very small 400x200 pixel Eclipse window that's blank inside
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[20:07:24] <blip-> I got disconnected.  In case my last message didn't reach:
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[20:07:31] <blip-> guys I've got some kind of problem with it,   I just untarred eclipse java from the website.  I start it, select a workpsace (the default) and press ok.  Then it freezes, I just see a very small 400x200 pixel Eclipse window that's blank inside
[20:07:38] <blip-> http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4678/screenshotlt.png    :/
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[20:08:20] <blip-> and no error output in the term window
[20:09:44] <rcjsuen> blip-: see faq in channel topic
[20:09:50] <rcjsuen> nice theme, btw
[20:10:16] <blip-> hehe :)   It's one of the themes that comes with xfce
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[20:12:22] <blip-> eclipse freezes because I have ffox 3.5 installed ?  that's hilarious :D   never thought my browser and IDE could be related
[20:12:36] <blip-> anyway I'll try the fix.
[20:12:41] <blip-> thanks for the help rcjsuen.
[20:12:46] <blip-> thanks dilton
[20:12:59] <rcjsuen> blip-: Are you using 3.4.x?
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[20:14:07] <Pro777> What is the path for the new Eclipse General->Apperance->Themes?
[20:14:29] <Pro777> The path to the actual XML themes?
[20:14:32] <blip-> rcjsuen: I downloaded it today,  this one http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-java-developers/galileor .     says galileo in the url but the splash screen when starting eclipse says ganymade
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[20:14:45] <blip-> *mede
[20:14:47] <rcjsuen> o that's odd
[20:15:01] <rcjsuen> maybe there is a bug / mirroring problem
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[20:15:26] <blip-> archive name is eclipse-java-ganymede-SR2-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[20:15:37] <rcjsuen> i guess the link/redirects are bad then :(
[20:15:51] <blip-> oh,,, what are the chances
[20:16:18] <blip-> so I should redownload galileo or ganymede now ?
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[20:16:30] <blip-> Europa sounds good too :)
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[20:53:36] <paulweb515> blip-: Galileo is 3.5.0 (released this June)
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[21:00:48] <blip-> Galileo is my friend
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[21:18:14] <NoobFukaure> I wonder if wireadmin is broken with equinox
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[21:20:17] <blip-> hmm I had downloaded ganymede from the main page a few hours ago.  I think the link was broken, it's now fixed and downloads galileo.    maybe it just took time for mirrors to update
[21:21:00] <NoobFukaure> Does anyone know if you need to do something to initiate a connection on a wire you just created with the wireadmin service?
[21:21:34] <NoobFukaure> I'm getting the following when I enabled debug on the wireadmin service: WIRE_CREATEDWire[PID=WA_GENERATED_PID_1253215376768;prodPID=com.my.cool.test.TimingService;consPID=com.my.cool.test.TestConsumer;connected=false}]
[21:22:00] <NoobFukaure> which seems to indicated that the wire was created, in addition my other bundle gets a WireAdminEvent notification of this
[21:22:26] <NoobFukaure> and both the producer service and the consumer service are registered and the events are notified via a ServiceListener
[21:23:08] <NoobFukaure> however no connection is ever made. My current understanding is that once a wire is created, the wireadmin will connect the producer/consumer once both services are registered.
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[21:23:42] <NoobFukaure> But this doesn't happen for me, so I'm curious if I need to initiate something to create the connection or if it's something else?
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[21:43:23] <NoobFukaure> hmm
[21:43:28] <NoobFukaure> equinox.wireadmin.fpid is being registered twice
[21:47:57] <IvoryZion> When I include a new header in my C project, should the code proposal functionality offer method suggestions from the new header as I type?
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[21:59:25] <blip-> guys I want to install the Android ADT plugin on the lastest Galileo.  When I open Help --> Install new software and then select All sites.... it doesn't find an ADT.   any ideas ?    thanks
[21:59:39] <rcjsuen> i thot you need to add the site by hand
[22:00:14] <blip-> oh
[22:00:52] <blip-> yeah you're right.  thanks rcjsuen
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[22:01:54] <blip-> Eclipse says 'fetching children of Android'   :D
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[22:04:06] <saml> how can I upgrade eclipse and still keep all plugins?
[22:04:18] <saml> can I just unzip to existing eclipse directory?
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[22:06:08] <rcjsuen> unzipping on top is dangerous and unsupported
[22:06:12] <rcjsuen> advance at your own risk
[22:06:46] <wuntee> When using eclipse for a runtime environment for tomcat; how do you add files to the classpath - specifically log4j.properties and other .properties files?  I tried adding the path the the Java buildpath libraries, but that doesnt seem to work...
[22:08:16] <rcjsuen> saml: What version are you upgrading from?
[22:08:28] <saml> from 3.4 to 3.5
[22:09:32] <saml> i'll follow this: http://rachaelandtom.info/content/how-make-your-eclipse-plugin-list-survive-eclipse-upgrade
[22:11:36] <rcjsuen> could try that, if 3.4 to 3.5 could also see ~copyplugins
[22:11:36] <T-elos> You can copy plugins between eclipse installations with p2: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_i_copy_plugins_between_eclipse_installations_with_p2.3F
[22:14:30] <saml> rcjsuen, thank you
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[22:37:57] <belak> In the cpp version, how do I define it so when I click "Run", it will run the program in a terminal window?
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[22:41:36] <NoobFukaure> hmm
[22:42:10] <NoobFukaure> so for wireadmin, you *must* register your producer/consumer classes with the interface classes (Producer.class, etc) or it doesn't work
[22:42:19] <NoobFukaure> Is that kind of restriction common?
[22:42:34] <NoobFukaure> by register I mean with the framework via a BundleContext
[22:43:36] <d_a_carver> belak: ~cdt-faq
[22:43:37] <T-elos> Looking for all of the answers related to CDT, or just most of them?  Check out the mighty CDT-FAQ (http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ).
[22:44:07] <belak> d_a_carver: Thanks. I've been looking for something like that for a while
[22:44:12] <belak> Can't believe I missed it
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[22:46:37] <belak> d_a_carver: Not there...
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[22:57:44] <dilton> belak: check your Run Configuration
[22:57:55] <belak> dilton: I don't know how to set that up.
[22:58:07] <belak> dilton: That's what the issue is
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[23:01:55] <dilton> belak: check the faq d_a_carver pointed you to - item 9 under Creating a simple Managed C++ Project -- "Hello World on a Windows Platform"
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[23:04:26] <belak> dilton: I need to run it in an external terminal... the one in eclipse doesn't handle colors or ncurses
[23:05:02] <dilton> belak: i see
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[23:05:45] <dilton> belak: I'm not sure how or if you can do that - try the eclipse CDT newsgroup maybe someone there has done that before
[23:06:12] <belak> dilton: Sorry, I'm using Linux... perhaps that's different from you
[23:06:16] <belak> Alright
[23:06:20] <belak> Thanks for the pointers
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[23:20:10] <jboooo> hey, i'm trying to fix a few bugs from eclipse for a class i'm taking. can someone please walk me through the processes of getting a patch accepted. i've looked in the wiki but haven't found enough info.
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[23:21:10] <benny`work> jboooo, open bug, describe problem, attach patch ;-)
[23:21:25] <benny`work> jboooo, you should be a little bit more accurate what you're trying to achieve
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[23:22:37] <jboooo> sure, specifically i'm just running through bugzilla trying to find unresolved bugs to fix for a class. and so i'm wondering once I find a fix, what are the steps I should do? just attach it to the bugzilla report?
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[23:24:00] <benny`work> jboooo, get the corresponding plugin from CVS, change the code as i'd suggest and create a patch. this patch should be attached to the bugzilla report with a small comment
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[23:24:17] <benny`work> jboooo, depending on the project you want to work on, be sure to run the tests
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[23:24:45] <benny`work> jboooo, eg the mylyn project already has a great summary how to contribute: http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Mylyn/Contributor_Reference
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[23:24:54] <jboooo> ok great thx :)
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[23:25:09] <benny`work> jboooo, any particular project you're interested in?
[23:25:47] <jboooo> i was looking at bugs just under the eclipse project like https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=207962
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[23:27:57] <belak> jboooo: If you have a patch, you could probably submit it, but I don't know for sure
[23:29:09] <jboooo> well i definately dont have a patch now, i was just wondering what the procedure was for fixin a bug in the eclipse platform
[23:30:56] <benny`work> jboooo, fixing the problem and attach a patch - but i'd start with something smaller ;-)
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[23:32:19] <jboooo> well any suggestions on where i should look for manageable (about 40 hours worth of work) bugs?
[23:33:27] <benny`work> jboooo, there is/was a bug day at eclipse with many bugs for beginners: http://wiki.eclipse.org/BugDay/March_2009
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[23:39:05] <rcjsuen> hard to gauge 40 hours
[23:39:23] <rcjsuen> Highly dependent on how much you know about the stuff you're trying to fix.
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[23:40:59] <jboooo> yea well i'm an experienced programmer but no past experience with eclipse code
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[23:41:21] <jboooo> so probably not too hard to get 40 hours outa something
[23:41:54] <rcjsuen> Like Benny suggested I'd just find an itch to scratch and scratch it.
[23:42:27] <rcjsuen> If unsure, search for bugs with the keyword 'helpwanted' and/or 'bugday'
[23:43:24] <rcjsuen> jboooo: shameless plug -> http://www.eclipse.org/articles/article.php?file=Article-How-to-Fix-a-Bug-in-Eclipse/index.html
[23:43:33] <rcjsuen> That's still a "draft", but anyway.
[23:44:08] <jboooo> will do thx :)
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