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[00:06:55] <nitind> winegoddess: I meant crlf<->lf<->cr can be done from the File menu.  But it sounds like you want something...different.
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[03:38:39] <jetblack101_> im working with swt in eclipse which requires a platform specific library.  One of my development hosts is 64bit and one is 32.  Is there an easy to have eclipse use the proper library depending on which machine is being used
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[03:42:31] <rcjsuen> Not sure I follow here.
[03:42:40] <rcjsuen> You have your own dll/so to interface with in JNI?
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[03:44:22] <jetblack101_> The swt jar is platform specific.  If i develop on the 64 bit host then i tell eclipse to look at the 64 bit jar.  But if i check out the code from svn and work on the 32 bit host then i have to go and switch the referenced jar to the 32 bit one.  If i switch hosts again then i have to repeat
[03:45:02] <rcjsuen> Okay, thought you had your own jar to worry about.
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[03:45:47] <rcjsuen> Guess you could use JDT variables for this maybe.
[03:45:47] <rcjsuen> Or just set it as a plug-in project and declare a dependency on org.eclipse.swt I suppose.
[03:46:02] <usepidgin> hi, is there a way to make the Eclipse toolbar icons display text under them, like firefox?
[03:46:16] <usepidgin> I'm new to Eclipse and have to hover over each icon to figure out what it does
[03:46:34] <rcjsuen> usepidgin: No.
[03:46:51] <jetblack101_> rcjsuen: do you know where i could look for more information on JDT variables
[03:47:34] <jetblack101_> usepidgin: don't worry, you'll learn them quick
[03:48:48] <rcjsuen> jetblack101_: presumably by searching thru the documentation
[03:48:48] <rcjsuen> it's in the prefs
[03:49:35] <jetblack101_> rcjsuen:  ok, i'll check it out, thanks for you help
[03:50:30] <rcjsuen> jetblack101_: To make what I said clearer, you declare those vars in the preferences.
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[04:13:14] <Chase-san> Heya, is there a way to set an eclipse variable via a command or something that runs like in a pre-build step etc
[04:14:03] <rcjsuen> That'd be highly dependent on what exactly you're talking about.
[04:14:28] <Chase-san> well I am using C/C++ (CDT?), and I want to set a build variable in eclipse witha  prebuild set
[04:14:37] <Chase-san> step*
[04:14:49] <Chase-san> Can  Ido that
[04:14:52] <Chase-san> If so, how?
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[06:01:07] <Zerb_Riss> can anyone tewll me what to do about this "GC overhead limit exceeded" error?
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[07:50:20] <apassi> hi, the eclipse gives the private visibility automatically when it suggest to create new method or class property, is there a way to set this to protected?
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[09:42:31] <lresende> when a plugin is launching something using launchManager/launchConfiguration
[09:42:36] <lresende> like : configuration.launch(ILaunchManager.RUN_MODE,
[09:43:02] <lresende> is there a way to find the current mode (e.g if you are running in normal or debug mode) ?
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[10:30:53] <FauxFaux> Being really picky here; can you reduce the time the chord hotkey helper (e.g. when you press ctrl+2 / alt+shift+q) takes to appear in the bottom right of the screen?
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[11:25:29] <_helvete> Hey guys, I have eclipse for php developers, but i want to install the java ee plugin, but i cant seem to find that on the eclipse site, only a whole other eclipse, is it possible to just get a plugin for the one i have?
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[11:29:48] <lampliter> you know, for such a popular IDE, you would think we would have an easy time finding support
[11:32:11] <deSilva> _helvete: you probably want to do it the other way around
[11:32:38] <_helvete> deSilva: say i already have the eclipse for php developers
[11:32:45] <_helvete> is it possible?
[11:33:24] <deSilva> _helvete: I think it would be easier to add php-support to the jee-edition than the other way around
[11:33:57] <_helvete> hmmm ok, so its not possible to add the jee plugin to the php one?
[11:34:14] <lampliter> the Python extensions were recently changed and they recommend uninstalling your original Python extension before doing the upgrade
[11:34:29] <lampliter> I'm not sure where to go to do the uninstall
[11:36:14] <deSilva> well, I installed pydev by unpacking it into the dropins folder, so I would remove from there. If you used the update manager, is the uninstall button disabled for you in the eclipse installation details dialog when you select pydev?
[11:36:42] <deSilva> _helvete: for the third time, I think it's probably easier the other way around
[11:36:50] <lampliter> yeah, that's the confusing thing.  I hit the install button and then I need to check for available software right?
[11:37:25] <lampliter> I select the update site and it shows me to pieces of software
[11:37:31] <lampliter> are they installed or not installed?
[11:37:47] <lampliter> Oh wait a minute.  I just saw a link for what's already installed.
[11:37:48] <deSilva> if you select "Install new software..." in the menu you get a dialog. From there you can follow a link to see what's already installed.
[11:38:15] <lampliter> that's a miserable excuse for user interface
[11:38:39] <lampliter> they hide major functionality behind a link at the bottom of page that has almost nothing to do with the functionality of the page
[11:39:07] <deSilva> lampliter: help->about eclipse->installation details takes you there as well, is that a more logical flow for you?
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[11:39:43] <_helvete_> sorry i was disconnected
[11:40:11] <_helvete_> not sure if you got this: _helvete: deSilva: for the 3rd time, i already have eclipse for php installed, i want to know if its possible to install jee plugin to this, i have a limited amount of bandwith, and it is expensive in this countr
[11:40:15] <lampliter> actually, it's help arrow install new software arrow what's already installed
[11:40:36] <lampliter> oh yes, I'm saying arrow instead of -> Because NaturallySpeaking doesn't know it yet
[11:40:43] <lampliter> and I really don't feel like typing this morning
[11:41:27] <lampliter> it would have made much more sense under the help menu to say install new/uninstall/update extensions
[11:41:42] <lampliter> that way the discovery process flows out of the top-level menu rather than being forced on a path that has nothing to do with uninstalling
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[11:41:53] <lampliter> yes, being a speech recognition user makes me really sensitive to bad UI design
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[11:50:54] <lampliter> the latest Python extensions complaining about "bad coding" because is looking for uft-8
[11:51:31] <lampliter> obviously, that should be utf-8 (unless I'm very very sleepy)
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[11:52:27] <lampliter> I don't like the comments being so faint because I put a lot of information there.  How to make them brighter?
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[12:30:40] <qqqqqq> HI I am new here
[12:30:55] <qqqqqq> I would need help about eclipse
[12:31:14] <qqqqqq> may someone help me
[12:31:20] <qqqqqq> ?
[12:31:30] <lampliter>  just ask your question
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[12:31:45] <qqqqqq> I am implementing a new eclipse text editor
[12:32:03] <qqqqqq> and now I ahve my sorce menu
[12:32:10] <qqqqqq> source
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[12:32:43] <qqqqqq> I'd liketo reuse most of the command for editing source code
[12:32:50] <qqqqqq> for instance togle comments
[12:32:53] <qqqqqq> toggle
[12:33:27] <qqqqqq> What i need exactly is to find the handlers of the java editor
[12:33:36] <qqqqqq> and reuse them into my text editor
[12:33:43] <qqqqqq> I ahve all the actions
[12:33:51] <qqqqqq> but i miss their handler
[12:33:54] <qqqqqq> s
[12:34:50] <qqqqqq> may you tell me something?
[12:35:15] <lampliter> I'm afraid I'm the wrong person for that.  I'm still trying to cope with basics like "how do I move my Python code from the workspace to where I use it"
[12:35:39] <qqqqqq> ok thanks a lot as well
[12:35:48] <lampliter> you're probably better off putting the query on the mailing lists
[12:36:09] <qqqqqq> ok ok
[12:40:13] <deSilva> lampliter: the projects do not have to be physically in the workspace folder
[12:40:34] <lampliter> I was using the term workspace to refer to a generic working allocation in the filesystem
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[12:40:48] <lampliter> is there a specific meaning for that in eclipse and I should be aware of (to avoid future confusion)
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[12:42:04] <lampliter> he is from trying to do.  I'm writing extensions to naturally speaking in Python.  They go into a particular directory for testing but I want to store the files in my "projects" directory which makes it easier for me to do backups.
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[12:42:36] <lampliter> I would love it if there was some way I could tell eclipse to copy all the files of this project into the NaturallySpeaking macro directory whenever I need it to
[12:42:49] <lampliter> is this asking too much?
[12:43:07] <enriq> hello. Where can I learn how to write a code-completion plugin?
[12:43:58] <FauxFaux> enriq: Go pull apart one of the existing ones in the jdt package, the only way to learn to write any kind of plugin.
[12:45:42] <lampliter> so there is no overt way of updating a working directory from files in a project directory?
[12:48:48] <enriq> lampliter, can't you write an ant script?
[12:49:03] <lampliter> what's an ant script?
[12:49:13] <lampliter> (Guess that answers your question :-))
[12:49:26] <enriq> what do you use eclipse for :)
[12:49:33] <enriq> not java programming I guess
[12:49:48] <lampliter> I'm just learning it.  I write Python because that's the only language I can write using speech recognition
[12:50:16] <lampliter> I'm trying to find something that will give me more inherent capabilities than Emacs.  I want to somehow couple those abilities to speech recognition commands and take a load off my fingers
[12:50:19] <qqqqqq> may someone help me?
[12:50:39] <lampliter> my end goal is to get to the point of having a "programming by voice" environment which entails a very different user interface model than a GUI
[12:51:21] <enriq> I see
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[12:51:29] <lampliter> isn't it annoying when us crips start trying to tweak tools in the world to our needs.  :-) totally violates most people's expectations for user interfaces.
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[12:51:34] <enriq> ant is like make for java world
[12:51:49] <lampliter> Okay.
[12:51:56] <enriq> in eclipse you write a file named build.xml
[12:52:06] <enriq> and with right-click you can execute with ant
[12:52:22] <enriq> ant scrips have "targets"
[12:52:35] <lampliter> remember, speech recognition, little or no most use, little or no keyboard use
[12:52:44] <enriq> you simply write a target "copyMyStuffToWhatever"
[12:52:45] <lampliter> there should be little or no mouse use, not most use
[12:53:12] <enriq> <lampliter> I would love it if there was some way I could tell eclipse to copy all the files of this project into the NaturallySpeaking macro directory whenever I need it to
[12:53:26] <lampliter> is there an API for invoking eclipse functions from external programs?
[12:53:33] <lampliter> And yes, thank you for the quote.  I do remember what I write occasionally
[12:53:37] <enriq> yes there are
[12:53:42] <enriq> but I'm not expert
[12:53:46] <lampliter> and yes, I didn't mention anything about no keyboards, no mice.  My bad
[12:53:51] <enriq> also eclipse can work in "server" mode (no gui)
[12:54:07] <enriq> but no idea how
[12:54:40] <enriq> just a philosophical comment on your project
[12:54:47] <lampliter> interesting.  What I need is a combination of gui for when I get tired of saying the wrong thing and server mode so my speech recognition environment can just come in under the radar
[12:54:51] <enriq> most of the time of programming is not "typing"
[12:54:59] <lampliter> that would be very cool.
[12:55:28] <lampliter> :-) well, I call hitting the keyboard with your fingers typing.  It's not really typing with me either as much as it is Brownian motion on key tops
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[12:56:18] <lampliter> but I will have to check into the eclipse mailing lists and find out about this quote back door" API stuff.
[12:56:32] <enriq> good luck
[12:56:38] <lampliter> Thank you.
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[12:57:25] <lampliter> It will get real interesting if I can get to the point where I can convert code to mock English and then translate it back again as a way of dealing with bumpy caps and other unspeakable symbol constructs
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[12:59:28] <lampliter> enriq: one other question if you don't mind.  Has remote system editing been improved?  Last time I tried it it didn't work very well.  I only asked because I use Windows for speech recognition and user interfaces but I do all my work on another machine, usually Linux
[13:00:09] <enriq> sorry I don't know :(
[13:00:20] <lampliter> okay, thanks for help
[13:00:43] <enriq> np
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[13:32:55] <rcjsuen> lresende: I'm pretty sure you can retrieve that. Try checking other launch config implementations to see how they figure it out.
[13:33:31] <rcjsuen> lresende: From the provided ILaunch you can call getMode()?
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[13:49:37] <elyezer> Is there some how to about TemplateStore? I was looking in JDT plug-in but it's too complex to me.
[13:51:29] <rcjsuen> try the Ant plug-in instead then
[13:52:01] <elyezer> ok thank you
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[13:53:39] <magnet> I have a problem with my current Eclipse install, and was wondering if anyone had the same (running GTK/amd64). Sometimes for no appearent reason my keyboard signals don't seem to be sent to the focused editor (JDT w/ PDE). I cannot type in nor use arrows to move (or use keyboard shortcuts) in that editor, but I still can in the rest of Eclipse. The name of the editor in the tab is greyed out. I can still change stuff using right click+refactor and that'
[13:53:39] <magnet> s a "workaround" so far to restore the editable state without relaunching completely Eclipse (which works too). The install is fresh and should be OK. Any idea?
[13:54:23] <magnet> (If I switch to another editor tab, then the problem happens on that tab)
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[14:04:34] <bushwakko> can anyone help me figure out an osgi uses conflict?
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[14:07:22] <elyezer> the standard of using "internal" package is to add eclipse configuration?
[14:09:47] <rcjsuen> magnet: Think I've heard of that problem in passing but not a very common occurrence. I run it at home on Linux/x86 and it is fine.
[14:10:37] <magnet> rcjsuen, it happens once or twice daily and I didn't find how to reproduce it yet
[14:11:12] <rcjsuen> If the tab is greyed that would imply it doesn't have proper focus (for whatever reasons).
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[14:12:46] <rcjsuen> elyezer: I don't know what you're talking about.
[14:13:24] <elyezer> rcjsuen: like in ant.ui.internal, is there a standard to use that internal package?
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[14:17:21] <rcjsuen> No, you usually either a) break the rules and use it anyway or b) copy/paste it in your own code.
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[14:18:58] <elyezer> ok thanks
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[14:19:20] <elyezer> ~api TemplatePreferencePage
[14:19:20] <T-elos> org.eclipse.ui.texteditor.templates.TemplatePreferencePage - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/ui/texteditor/templates/TemplatePreferencePage.html
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[14:22:44] <elyezer> I'm using template store to create and edit a template not for an editor, but to use with other tool. Like creating a template for JavaDoc output, do you think that it's a good thing to do?
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[14:26:50] <sleon> hi
[14:27:29] <sleon> i have created a lightweight decorator in plugin.xml and created a class wich implements the ILightweightDecorator. How can i now use it with my listviewer?
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[14:50:19] <bushwakko> equinox's debugClassLoading prints ClassNotFoundExceptions on stuff that clearly is catched and _not_ printed. this makes stuff impossible to debug, because only 1 in 50 is a real error...
[14:53:22] <rcjsuen> ~tell sleon about api WorkbenchLabelProvider
[14:53:22] <T-elos> sleon: org.eclipse.ui.model.WorkbenchLabelProvider - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/ui/model/WorkbenchLabelProvider.html
[14:55:07] <sleon> rcjsuen: hi :)
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[14:57:38] <sleon>  rcjsuen hmm, i do not see how it is related with the lightweight label provider i want to use for a list viewer
[14:57:55] <rcjsuen> sleon: you can get a label provider from it
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[14:59:08] <sleon> rcjsuen: interesting
[15:00:49] <sleon> rcjsuen: does it automatically get the decalred lightweight labelprovider from plugin xml?
[15:00:57] <sleon> listViewer.setLabelProvider(WorkbenchLabelProvider.getDecoratingWorkbenchLabelProvider()); is enough ?
[15:01:00] <rcjsuen> Not positive. Try it and see.
[15:01:55] <sleon> trying riht now
[15:02:29] <sleon> rcjsuen: i get no labels at all
[15:02:43] <rcjsuen> It's probably querying the adapters for a label.
[15:03:00] <rcjsuen> you could debug in getText and see what happens
[15:03:12] <sleon> ok
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[15:04:15] <rcjsuen> ~api IWorkbenchAdapter
[15:04:15] <T-elos> org.eclipse.ui.model.IWorkbenchAdapter - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/ui/model/IWorkbenchAdapter.html
[15:04:16] <rcjsuen> ~api IWorkbenchAdapter2
[15:04:17] <T-elos> org.eclipse.ui.model.IWorkbenchAdapter2 - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/ui/model/IWorkbenchAdapter2.html
[15:04:22] <rcjsuen> It's probably asking those.
[15:05:07] <rcjsuen> or just do the decoration yourself in your own label provider implementation, that would work I suppose
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[15:06:23] <sleon> the problem is that i do not understand, how the label provider uses the lightweight decorators from plugin.xml, and how also the refreshing is done( i read that somehow labelprovider is told by someone to do the refreshing)
[15:08:34] <rcjsuen> you can ask the workbench to redecorate
[15:08:52] <rcjsuen> There is code in the ~dev-faq
[15:08:52] <T-elos> Writing Eclipse plug-ins / RCP apps and don't know where to turn? See these FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/RCP_FAQ / Or look at EclipseCon talks/tutorials - http://www.eclipsecon.org/
[15:09:07] <sleon> rcjsuen: cool
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[15:12:04] <sleon> is there protocol about talk/tutorials which happend in prior eclipse cons
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[15:14:42] <sleon> rcjsuen: ok, found something
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[15:19:35] <sleon> rcjsuen: i am  using now  the IWorkbenchAdapter interface. this adapter has the method getImage. To decorate i pass this image to the Lightweight Decorator's decorate method. decorate method accepts two arguments. Object element : this is the element to be decorated. and IDecoration decoration which i do not know where to retrieve from
[15:20:19] <rcjsuen> You should just return a regular image.
[15:20:27] <rcjsuen> and let the workbench decorate when it is asked to
[15:21:39] <sleon> i try it
[15:22:09] <sleon> rcjsuen: it seems that ListViewer does not use getImage method of the label provider. I try the TableViewer
[15:22:25] <rcjsuen> oh, that's correct
[15:22:25] <rcjsuen> List does not support images
[15:22:28] <rcjsuen> should've been called ListOfStrings
[15:22:42] <rcjsuen> :) ~275285c3
[15:22:44] <T-elos> Bug 275285 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=275285#c3 - Platform / SWT / 3.3.2 - PC / Windows XP - RESOLVED / WONTFIX / enhancement / - Assignee: platform-swt-inbox - enhance the list widget to support image and text
[15:23:23] <sleon> aaa ok :)
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[15:43:10] <uwjweq> How to turn off on the fly syntax checking? It is too expensive for me.
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[15:44:38] <deSilva> when I choose to debug a something, shouldn't that always be moved to the top of the list handled by the debug button?
[15:45:00] <rcjsuen> not if there are favourites
[15:45:15] <sleon> rcjsuen: hmm, my lightwiehgt decorator does not seem to get called
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[15:45:38] <sleon> rcjsuen: maybe because of state false
[15:45:44] <rcjsuen> "state false"?
[15:45:53] <rcjsuen> You could try decorating IFile/IFolders instead and see what happens.
[15:46:15] <deSilva> rcjsuen: when I right-click a unit-test and select to debug that, the perspective switches to debug when a breakpoint is it. But that unit test is not on the top of the list which is a bit annoying.
[15:46:25] <rcjsuen> in that case it's not i don't think
[15:46:57] <rcjsuen> no configs are generated in that scenario
[15:47:45] <deSilva> if I start single unit test by having its method name selected, then it is stored in the list it seems
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[16:15:53] <erdal> how can i find out which plugin (not in workspace projects) exports a package?
[16:16:04] <erdal> a specific package
[16:16:22] <FauxFaux> Use it, and see what the quickfix offers. =p
[16:16:58] <rcjsuen> you cna probably find out in one of the PDE views
[16:17:01] <rcjsuen> assuming it's in your target platform
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[16:18:39] <erdal> when choosing "Go to package" nothing happens
[16:18:45] <erdal> in pde editor
[16:18:56] <erdal> where does pde get that package?
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[16:20:12] <rcjsuen> probably via parsing the manifest?
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[16:26:25] <uwjweq> How to turn off on the fly syntax checking?
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[16:27:14] <rcjsuen> That'd probably depend if that's even supported since it's not a global setting.
[16:27:21] <rcjsuen> What programming language are you talking about anyway
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[16:31:02] <uwjweq> I am using pdt.
[16:33:10] <sleon> rcjsuen: wheu it finally works
[16:34:00] <rcjsuen> uwjweq: you can turn it off for java, dunno about php tho
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[16:48:20] <uwjweq> rcjsuen: Thanks.
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[16:54:36] <peper> when trying to create a new php project i get an error saying "Buildpath contains duplicate entry" and the entry is some php5 language resource from the plugin. any idea?
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[17:04:04] <uwjweq> peper: Have you downloaded galileo with pdt?
[17:06:58] <peper> uwjweq: no. i have "fixed" it by removing php from builddir
[17:07:06] <peper> i don't need it anyway for this project
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[19:01:32] <joris__> hey Im working on Mac os x, It appears that eclipse uses a different PATH than the path of my bash env, how can I configure Eclipse to use the same as the bash terminal PATH ?
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[19:03:40] <rcjsuen> What are you trying to do anyway? It does sound odd to me that it'd be different although even if it was so on my installations it's never affected me and I've never noticed (on Windows or on Linux). krbarnes?
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[19:07:24] <joris__> Im trying to run some perl modules with epic, it needs some blast tools for that which are in my Bash PATH, but not in the eclipse PATH. so if I run the perl script using the terminal it works nice, if I use the eclipse play button I get the error Path not found
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[19:08:03] <rcjsuen> Is that something specific in your .bashrc?
[19:09:02] <joris__> yes it is an extra folder with bin files I appended to my PATH in the terminal
[19:09:29] <joris__> i did it both by exporting in the terminal as by putting it in my .profile file
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[19:13:01] <elyezer> ~api org.eclipse.ui.editors.templates
[19:13:02] <T-elos> No javadocs found for class 'org.eclipse.ui.editors.templates'.
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[19:27:58] <Espen-_-> egit is a pain in the ass to get working with github. Any good guides available?
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[19:41:13] <Shapeshifter> Hi. Where does eclipse store it's config file on a linux system?
[19:41:26] <Shapeshifter> I want to copy it over to another machine because I use custom colors for syntax and such.
[19:42:03] <rcjsuen> File > Export > Preferences?
[19:42:05] <Shapeshifter> alternatively, does someone know a "theme", or other way to set a colours so that they are friendly to a dark grey background.
[19:42:10] <Shapeshifter> rcjsuen: ah thanks.
[19:42:47] <Shapeshifter> uhm, seems like I already uninstalled it from this box a few months ago. Are the configs gone as well now?
[19:42:59] <Shapeshifter> Very unlikely on a linux system >.>
[19:43:04] <Shapeshifter> Where do they get stored usually?
[19:43:08] <rcjsuen> In your workspace
[19:43:11] <krbarnes> joris__: Eclipse uses the default environment.
[19:43:48] <joris__> krbarnes: so how would I have to change that one? /etc/paths ?
[19:44:27] <Shapeshifter> rcjsuen: the workspace I used doesn't seem to contain any config files
[19:44:33] <krbarnes> no, you can edit the app's plist file to change it for the app
[19:44:38] <Shapeshifter> it's just the old projects and a folder called .metadata with a version.ini in it.
[19:44:46] <krbarnes> joris__: see http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPRuntimeConfig/Articles/EnvironmentVars.html
[19:44:47] <rcjsuen> Shapeshifter: There is stuff in the .metadata folder.
[19:44:58] <rcjsuen> .metadata/.plugins/*
[19:45:03] <rcjsuen> at least, there should be
[19:45:04] <Shapeshifter> rcjsuen: ahh
[19:45:07] <Shapeshifter> missed it. thanks
[19:47:11] <elyezer> inside Eclipse is there a Html editor that I can subclass it and add my templates?
[19:48:59] <Shapeshifter> rcjsuen: thanks. managed to get the config over to the other box.
[19:49:14] <rcjsuen> Shapeshifter: Did you copy the whole folder?
[19:49:51] <Shapeshifter> rcjsuen: yeah, the .plugins folder. I'm sure this confuses eclipse, e.g. it showed nonexistant projects. Anyway I just deleted them and I guess it will be fine
[19:50:06] <rcjsuen> Yes, I was about to say you'll get more than you bargained for.
[19:50:10] <Shapeshifter> I just need eclipse because the uni provides everything as eclipse projects, so I don't really care ;)
[19:50:27] <Shapeshifter> it seems to work so far.
[19:50:33] <Shapeshifter> I didn't install any plugins or such on the other box
[19:50:40] <Shapeshifter> so the setup is probably similar.
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[20:12:04] <jnz_> Hi, can I ask here something about PyDev plug-in?
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[20:13:24] <rcjsuen> jnz_: You can try. Though you may get better mileage asking on the PyDev forums/mailing lists directly.
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[20:26:23] <elyezer> I've created a template editor in preference page, but it show all templates for java, to create my own templates I must create a context?
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[20:31:01] <elyezer> I've forgotten to pass getContextTypeRegistry because that it get default templates
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[20:44:20] <elyezer> can I change the template vars to $name an not ${name}?
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[21:24:35] <frojnd> Good evening there.
[21:24:37] <frojnd> I have eclipse-cdt 6.0.0-1
[21:25:28] <frojnd> and even if I have include #include <vector> it won't autocomplete if I do e.g. example.pusb_bac[IT WON'T AUTOCOMPLETE] Do I need somekind of a plugin for that?
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[21:26:03] <frojnd> ^space won't suggest push_back()
[21:29:23] <frojnd> Bah, I needed to add 'using namespace std;'
[21:29:30] <frojnd> Thanx anyway
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[21:35:50] <deSilva> one happy customer, next!
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[21:42:11] <deSilva> is the next major version of eclipse e4 or did I say something stupid just there?
[21:42:50] <rcjsuen> We will not abandon the 3.x stream so there will be releases side-by-side.
[21:43:47] <deSilva> so there will be a 3.6 in june next year?
[21:43:58] <rcjsuen> Yes.
[21:44:18] <deSilva> when is the first milestone due?
[21:44:45] <rcjsuen> 3.6m1 alrdy was declared
[21:44:50] <rcjsuen> we will declare m2 on Friday (I think)
[21:44:54] <deSilva> oh
[21:45:19] <rcjsuen> http://eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=eclipse
[21:45:26] <deSilva> why do you say declare? is that different from a named, packaged "release"?
[21:46:17] <rcjsuen> that's a word nitind uses that i started adopting
[21:46:24] <rcjsuen> deSilva: release sounds too..."final"
[21:46:35] <rcjsuen> we don't wanna make claims of "production ready"
[21:46:48] <deSilva> of course, I know it's a very early beta
[21:46:54] <deSilva> of course not even
[21:47:22] <rcjsuen> that's not to say it's broken, we use it on a day-to-day basis, but anyway
[21:48:43] <deSilva> I only dared to try 3.4 and 3.5 when M6 was declared
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[22:04:11] <Dandre1> hello
[22:05:39] <Dandre1> I am using subversive plugin. In my repository I have several subprojects and one surounding build system. I want to put all this in several projects in eclipse.
[22:06:19] <Dandre1> Can I have momr than one project that is using a share copy of one repository?
[22:06:53] <Espen-_-> When I export with subclipse I can choose wich folder in the svn I wanna import
[22:07:13] <Espen-_-> "I import"
[22:07:14] <Espen-_-> *
[22:07:15] <Espen-_-> :P
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[22:07:18] <Espen-_-> Need lseep
[22:07:20] <Espen-_-> sleep*
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[22:08:08] <Dandre1> yes but in my case I want this:
[22:08:15] <Dandre1> root/
[22:08:25] <Dandre1> root/build.xml
[22:08:33] <Dandre1> root/proj1
[22:08:39] <Dandre1> root/proj2
[22:08:41] <Dandre1> ...
[22:08:53] <Dandre1> in each proj a build.xml
[22:09:28] <Dandre1> and I want to have in my eclipse one project proj1
[22:09:34] <Dandre1> another proj2
[22:09:45] <Dandre1> and access to the main build.xml
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[22:22:59] <Young-goon> hi, is there a way to prevent eclipse from inserting a new line before closing barce (the symbol })
[22:23:03] <Young-goon> ?
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[22:25:07] <dilton> Young-goon: look at Window | Preferences | Java | Code Style
[22:25:29] <Young-goon> i didn't find it
[22:25:43] <Young-goon> i customise the style to fit my will but didn't find this option
[22:26:17] <dilton> Young-goon: let me check
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[22:28:50] <dilton> Young-goon: looks like it's only for the opening brace sorry
[22:29:00] <Young-goon> i think same
[22:29:16] <Young-goon> is tehre a way to specify order when using sort members ?
[22:31:11] <dilton> Young-goon: not sure
[22:32:24] <Young-goon> it's sad that these kind of features are missing (or lacking ?)
[22:32:29] <Young-goon> but thx for your time
[22:34:07] <dilton> Young-goon: welcome
[22:34:11] <rcjsuen> The formatter might be able to change your brace placement.
[22:34:23] <rcjsuen> Young-goon: if you want something and it's not there, file an enhancement request to Bugzilla
[22:34:57] <Young-goon> yes but i'm not sure to bother them with such thing that i am the only one to want
[22:35:28] <Young-goon> the thing about the formatter must be very simple to implement but there are not not implemented because i'm the only one who need it
[22:35:45] <Young-goon> i think
[22:36:02] <dilton> Young-goon: never know, doesn't hurt to try
[22:36:16] <rcjsuen> Doesn't mean someone tomorrow won't need it.
[22:36:30] <Young-goon> i'm on ubuntu, i'm not sure ti have the last version of eclipse
[22:36:44] <Young-goon> so if i want to submit something i have to check on the last
[22:36:50] <Young-goon> a very hard task
[22:37:21] <rcjsuen> "check on the last"?
[22:37:25] <rcjsuen> oh i see what you mean
[22:37:29] <Young-goon> the last version
[22:37:30] <rcjsuen> Young-goon: Help > About, what build id / version?
[22:37:47] <Young-goon> Build id: M20070212-1330 (Ubuntu version: 3.2.2-5ubuntu3)
[22:37:56] <rcjsuen> Young-goon: that's 3 years old
[22:38:10] <dilton> i'm on Ubuntu but the Eclipse in the  repo is old, get it from Eclipse to get the lateset
[22:38:26] <Young-goon> too risky
[22:38:33] <Young-goon> i top to play with such things
[22:38:40] <Young-goon> s/top/stop/
[22:38:50] <Young-goon> i got so many troubles in the past
[22:39:08] <rcjsuen> I know lots of people that just get Eclipse from Eclipse.org (Ubuntu users).
[22:39:10] <rcjsuen> but well, up to you
[22:39:26] <Young-goon> i can use it in a totally separated environment ?
[22:39:47] <Young-goon> it won't break my ubuntu java and eclipse installation ?
[22:40:23] <rcjsuen> it is standalone
[22:40:28] <dilton> Young-goon: it hasn't hurt mine
[22:41:24] <Young-goon> ok i give it a try
[22:42:27] <Young-goon> thx for all the advices and answers
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[23:02:18] <bin1010> hey guys, I am trying to install eclipse 64 after install of java SDK was successful on windows 7 64-bit.  I think i have everything happy, but I get "The Eclipse exe launcher was unable to locate its companion shared library" ... any ideas?
[23:02:37] <bin1010> java jdk was windows 64 too...sorry
[23:03:26] <bin1010> java -version gives
[23:03:26] <bin1010> java version "1.6.0_16"
[23:03:26] <bin1010> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_16-b01)
[23:03:26] <bin1010> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.2-b01, mixed mode)
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[23:09:18] <s833> hello all
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[23:09:37] <s833> I am using eclipse  3.4.1
[23:09:57] <s833> one have a simple question is there a way I can see a daily log of CVS changes.
[23:10:05] <s833> like who checked in what etc?
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[23:16:13] <bin1010> is there a way from terminal to run eclipse in a mode that would give me more information other than "it didn't work?
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[23:19:22] <nitind> bin1010: the -consoleLog switch?  You're not really getting an error message saying "it didn't work", are you?
[23:19:56] <bin1010> nitind: lol, nope "The Eclipse exe launcher was unable to locate its companion shared library"
[23:21:11] <bin1010> darn, that didn't give me anymore information to go by
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[23:34:17] <bin1010> whoa, why is the supported jre at 1.5u14?  Can you even get that?
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[23:34:44] <bin1010> is there a version of the zips that include an embedded jre?
[23:35:40] <rcjsuen> bin1010: No, you cannot get a JRE from eclipse.org.
[23:35:52] <bin1010> thats what i thought
[23:36:01] <rcjsuen> bin1010: And I use other JREs that are not listed, Eclipse works fine for me.
[23:36:35] <bin1010> thats good news.
[23:36:45] <bin1010> are you running windows 7 64bit?
[23:36:49] <rcjsuen> No
[23:36:55] <rcjsuen> I use XP (at work), Gentoo / Vista at home
[23:36:57] <bin1010> or vista would act the same
[23:37:07] <rcjsuen> bin1010: Which download did you pick
[23:37:09] <rcjsuen> what is its filename
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[23:37:28] <bin1010> ah, eclipse-SDK-3.5-win32-x86_64
[23:38:01] <rcjsuen> Sounds okay to me, unless the build went awry.
[23:38:29] <rcjsuen> you could try with a 32-bit JRE and a 32-bit Eclipse build I suppose
[23:38:48] <rcjsuen> Does the error dialog just say it can't load the libs?
[23:39:04] <bin1010> just "The Eclipse exe launcher was unable to locate its companion shared library"
[23:39:38] <bin1010> not sure what that is, and consoleLog didn't share anymore info :(
[23:40:01] <rcjsuen> try with 32-bit
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[23:42:46] <IceGuest_75> ahh, there is an eclipse room :P
[23:43:36] <IceGuest_75> I have been using notepad++ for the longest time. Now I have been having crashing probs with it on windows 7...trying to use eclipse...but...how can i create an already existing project?
[23:44:01] <IceGuest_75> when i try, i get "Cannot create project content in workspace"
[23:44:19] <rcjsuen> Usually I would just make a project
[23:44:19] <rcjsuen> then copy/patse
[23:44:50] <rcjsuen> what kinda project is this exactly anyway
[23:45:10] <IceGuest_75> PHP
[23:45:19] <IceGuest_75> what do you mean by copy and paste?
[23:45:29] <IceGuest_75> cause im trying to use the directory on my localhost
[23:45:33] <rcjsuen> like i copy/paste my .java files
[23:45:36] <IceGuest_75> which would be nice if i could use
[23:45:41] <rcjsuen> is what i mean
[23:45:45] <IceGuest_75> oh
[23:45:46] <IceGuest_75> well
[23:46:01] <IceGuest_75> i would like to use it on my localhost files, without having to copy/paste anything
[23:46:02] <IceGuest_75> lol
[23:46:03] <IceGuest_75> :P
[23:47:48] <IceGuest_75> Cannot create project content in workspace. <--so if anyone has a solution to this problem, please let me know...greatly appreciate it :D
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[23:53:27] <rcjsuen> IceGuest_75: What folder are you feeding it anyway?
[23:53:45] <IceGuest_75> c:\xampp\htdocs\bac
[23:54:10] <IceGuest_75> rcjsuen ^
[23:54:14] <rcjsuen> IceGuest_75: And where is your workspace
[23:54:18] <bin1010>  rcjsuen: yep 32java/32eclipse worked.  wow that will be confusing as more peeps try it
[23:54:45] <IceGuest_75> not sure
[23:54:48] <rcjsuen> bin1010: I haven't heard others complain actually.
[23:55:24] <IceGuest_75> rcjsuen: well my workspace is c:\xampp\htdocs
[23:55:39] <nitind> IceGuest_75: You don't need to manually specify the location, then.
[23:55:50] <rcjsuen> just use 'bac' as the project name then (logically speaking)
[23:56:52] <nitind> IceGuest_75: But I would *never* suggest making htdocs your workspace.  Metadata containing your preferences and potentially compromising information goes there as well.
[23:57:01] <rcjsuen> same
[23:57:44] <IceGuest_75> its ok, its just a test server
[23:57:48] <IceGuest_75> nothing special :)
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[23:59:53] <sobersabre> is there any CDT alternative that supports visual studio compilers on windows ?





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