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[00:02:14] <rcjsuen> ezeki3l: you mean both your hello world and your original program runs now?
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[00:11:36] <alesan> hi
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[00:11:50] <alesan> I have a directory that is alresady populated with sources and I would like to create a project out of it
[00:12:00] <alesan> but keep the sources there
[00:12:21] <alesan> how should I proceed? It's not clear t ome
[00:12:50] <nitind> Create a new project, and then create a folder within the project but specifying the real Location in the bottom of the wizard page.  Then make that workspace folder a source folder.
[00:13:16] <rcjsuen> somewhat of a case-by-case basis imo, what programming languages are involved here
[00:13:27] <alesan> when I create the project that has to be in the "default location"?
[00:13:38] <alesan> rcjsuen, C
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[00:14:12] <nitind> No, but that's where the Eclipse metadata in the project will be stored.  It sounded like you didn't want the real source location interacted with in that manner.
[00:14:37] <nitind> So I would still let the project go into its default location for your case.
[00:14:47] <alesan> nitind, yes exactly now I understand
[00:15:35] <alesan> I have created the project...
[00:16:12] <alesan> I am now creating the folder
[00:16:25] <alesan> should I use the advanced option "ink to folder in file system"?
[00:16:27] <alesan> link
[00:16:38] <nitind> Yes, that one exactly.  Tell it where the physical contents should be.
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[01:25:04] <alesan> hey guys, sorry for the lame question but... where do I set that tabs must be hard tabs in the source code editor?
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[01:30:53] <lresende> any good web resources/tutorial for debuging eclipse plugins
[01:31:23] <rcjsuen> alesan: that's in the text editor prefs or the formatting options (if the editor supports formatting)
[01:31:33] <rcjsuen> lresende: Usually I just use google, or I ask in here.
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[01:34:11] <niriven> Anyone familar with plug-in development? I'm trying to change a plugins classpath dynamically, is this possible?
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[01:35:22] <rcjsuen> niriven: Can't say I've heard of that one. What purpose would this serve
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[01:36:51] <niriven> rcjsuen: Well, i am creating a custom ide based on eclipse for a propietary language. Part of this language supports calls out to an external jar file for unsupported functionality of the language. This jar file is configurable on a per project basis.
[01:39:47] <niriven> rcjsuen: One of my plugins is a plugin that has some API's into the core engine that we call that processes the  language itself, and these API's require this jar file to be in the classpath when we call them. How do we do this now? I have to set the jar file in a preference page, save it to a .bat file to set an environment variable, then restart eclipse. The plugin manifest that contains the api has a reference for class like $E_LOC
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[01:43:45] <niriven> rcjsuen: No, yes, dont know? :P
[01:43:58] <rcjsuen> your message got cut actually
[01:44:02] <rcjsuen> for class like $E_LO
[01:44:05] <rcjsuen> unless that's all you had to say
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[01:44:45] <niriven> rcjsuen:  like $E_LOCATION$, which dynamically gets the path from the environment, but we have to restart eclipse to change it.
[01:46:01] <rcjsuen> I think I'd rather just spawn a separate VM process the input.
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[01:46:09] <rcjsuen> to process said input
[01:46:53] <niriven> rcjsuen: Well, the api's would have to be wrapped in some main method with some 'arguements', and theres tons of api calls to make, this would get ugly :(
[01:47:09] <rcjsuen> Why can't you just distribute this jar with your plug-in anyway
[01:47:34] <niriven> rcjsuen: Because its specific to a project, for the languagee that the engineer is developing in the custom ide
[01:47:40] <niriven> rcjsuen: And they could have multiple projects
[01:48:21] <rcjsuen> What are you using, reflection?
[01:48:54] <niriven> rcjsuen: Yup, the core engine is
[01:49:35] <niriven> rcjsuen: So the core engine gets a set of language files, and a jar file to supplement stuff the language doesnt do yet, and the custom language can make calls to this .jar file. Im probably not making any sense :-0
[01:49:50] <rcjsuen> yes and no, ewll, i suck at languages anyway
[01:50:11] <niriven> Essentailly all i need is a plugin that i can change its classpath at runtime :P
[01:50:32] <niriven> But, oh well. I guess i can restrict one project per workspace.
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[01:53:16] <rcjsuen> You should ask on the Equinox newsgroup if you want to modify the classloader's behaviour.
[01:53:30] <niriven> rcjsuen: ok ill try, thanks :)
[01:54:25] <rcjsuen> niriven: Do you have a lot of custom languages?
[01:54:39] <rcjsuen> It just seems to me that deploying the jars with the plug-in makes more sense.
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[01:58:48] <niriven> rcjsuen: most of it is custom, yes
[01:59:05] <niriven> rcjsuen: well it does, but the .jar file is part of the custom language :)
[01:59:22] <niriven> (custom language) -> (programmatics.jar)
[01:59:38] <rcjsuen> Right, and how many of these do you have, like 20-30?
[01:59:41] <niriven> programmatics.jar is created by the engineer that programs in the language :)
[02:00:09] <niriven> rcjsuen: 1 right now, but it changes on a daily basis
[02:00:17] <niriven> rcjsuen: Soon to be 2 or 3
[02:01:47] <rcjsuen> Oh well. I'm sure if you could you would deploy it with the plug-in. I'm probably missing some context.
[02:01:58] <niriven> rcjsuen: Acutally i can try, since i can get it to work with $JAR_LOCATION$ in the manifest, changing the environment variable during runtime and see what happens :-0
[02:02:24] <rcjsuen> I doubt OSGi would resolve things that way.
[02:02:45] <niriven> rcjsuen: the set of plugins on top of the eclipse platform is the IDE for the language, the language and .jar file ar developed in that ide, definitally cant package it up :)
[02:03:02] <niriven> rcjsuen: Eh, worth a try.
[02:06:48] <niriven> rcjsuen: I'll let you know if it works though, which it probably wont :)
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[02:16:32] <lresende> i'm getting : java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Cannot load 32-bit SWT libraries on 64-bit JVM
[02:17:02] <lresende> is there actual a 64 bit swt that runs in mac os ?
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[02:20:01] <alesan> bye
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[02:21:26] <rcjsuen> lresende: I found this on google http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.platform.swt/msg44996.html
[02:21:48] <lresende> rcjsuen: looking... thanks
[02:22:18] <rcjsuen> it was the first hit, maybe it is correct
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[02:40:09] <niriven> rcjsuen: Yup, environment variable didnt do what i wanted :P
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[02:59:18] <Kira> Ganymede SR2 Carbon is not supposed to run against Apple JDK 1.6.0 on Mac OS X, right?
[02:59:44] <krbarnes> Kira: on snow leopard it'll work
[03:00:31] <Kira> krbarnes: I thought only Galileo would work with Apple JDK 1.6.
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[03:01:35] <krbarnes> Kira: Carbon requires a 32-bit vm. Snow Leopard has a 32 Java 6 vm. Leopard does not.
[03:01:43] <Kira> aaaaah
[03:01:48] <krbarnes> galileo would be better though
[03:02:03] <Kira> I thought Leopard only shipped with 64-bit Java 6 VM.
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[03:02:09] <Kira> I mean SL.
[03:02:22] <krbarnes> Kira: you thought wrong
[03:02:23] <Kira> that reminds me.
[03:02:43] <Kira> I still need to get my hands on SL.
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[03:17:50] <WillPittenger> Has anyone here worked with Mylyn and Trac?
[03:18:18] <rcjsuen> My friend works on it, but I've never used it.
[03:18:57] <WillPittenger> It has to wait.  Aptana/Eclipse did an upgrade and now some of my plugins are broken. :(
[03:19:55] <WillPittenger> They are still installed, but no loading.
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[03:20:52] <WillPittenger> "Unable to read workbench state.  Reason: Problems occurred restoring perspective.
[03:21:04] <WillPittenger> Problems occurred restoring perspective.
[03:21:06] <WillPittenger>   Could not create view: org.eclipse.wst.common.snippets.internal.ui.SnippetsView
[03:21:07] <WillPittenger>     Could not create view: org.eclipse.wst.common.snippets.internal.ui.SnippetsView
[03:21:09] <WillPittenger>   Could not find view: org.eclipse.wst.common.snippets.internal.ui.SnippetsView
[03:23:56] <WillPittenger> rcjsuen: Need to fix that first. :\
[03:24:12] <WillPittenger> Aptana's perspectives still work.
[03:24:23] <WillPittenger> But no others.
[03:24:50] <WillPittenger> Not even team.
[03:29:43] <WillPittenger> Well, no errors after I visited each one, but the icons are still gone.  Now I need to rely on the tooltips as I hid the text to make room.  And the toolips like to appear under my mouse pointer rather than where I can see them.
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[03:46:44] <what_nick> yay
[03:46:50] <what_nick> anybody about ?
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[03:48:35] <rcjsuen> what_nick: Why do you ask?
[03:49:49] <what_nick> just needed some ideas on resource loading and making it consistent in eclipse and a deployed jar
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[03:59:01] <rcjsuen> what_nick: Was there more to your story?
[03:59:51] <what_nick> Ah you are waiting on me ... I have some shaders I am loading from files .. they can't be found using relative paths from within eclipse
[04:00:18] <what_nick> so I am looking for a strategy that allows me to load using consistent path names in debug time and deployment
[04:00:34] <what_nick> looking at classloader.getresource atm
[04:01:41] <rcjsuen> That would be a good idea, yes.
[04:02:22] <what_nick> now how are these relative paths formatted ?
[04:02:33] <what_nick> my package is com.stuff.stuff
[04:02:47] <what_nick> while the shaders are at a top level in shaders
[04:09:01] <rcjsuen> Don't think I've ever tried it that way. Except for Eclipse plug-ins.
[04:10:10] <what_nick> I have some helper classes ... so this technique works ... WWIO.openFileOrResourceStream("shaders/contrastfrag.glsl",this.getClass())
[04:13:19] <what_nick> Next question are there any good glsl highlight and preview plugins ?
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[04:15:59] <niriven> Ok heres a question :-0
[04:16:05] <niriven> Can i reload an eclipse plugin at runtime?
[04:16:33] <rcjsuen> niriven: you can stop and start the bundle if that's what you mean
[04:16:44] <niriven> rcjsuen: does that revaluate the classpath? :P
[04:18:21] <rcjsuen> If you uninstall and install it back then I think so.
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[04:20:12] <niriven> rcjsuen: uninstall/install is the same as stop/start? :)
[04:20:55] <rcjsuen> No.
[04:24:09] <niriven> rcjsuen: So is there a way to programmatically uninstall and install a plugin? :)
[04:24:31] <rcjsuen> There are defined OSGi APIs.
[04:45:09] <what_nick> eclipse has always recommended restarting the environment
[04:46:09] <rcjsuen> what_nick: Yeah. The "dynamic" story isn't that great even though it's often promoted that way.
[04:48:12] <what_nick> is this any good ? http://sourceforge.net/projects/glshaders/
[04:48:19] <what_nick> i guess no one codes glsl here
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[05:01:03] <nitind> WillPittenger: Kooky.  That plug-in pretty much only requires GEF and a recent version of Eclipse.
[05:01:31] <WillPittenger> Which plugin?
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[05:39:05] <nitind> WillPittenger: org.eclipse.wst.common.snippets
[05:40:03] <WillPittenger> So how do I fix the problem?  I don't get the error any more.  But the icons for the various perspectives other than Aptana are all default.
[05:41:57] <EricInBNE> I wish eclipse had some kind of distcc like plugin.
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[05:58:59] <what_nick> compiling large code base ?
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[07:54:30] <HiphopWaltz> Does anyone here use PyDev in eclipse?
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[07:59:37] <HiphopWaltz> No python love here it seems :-/
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[08:49:44] <Back2Basics> HiphopWaltz: just ask the question.
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[10:20:20] <robwlo531> hi folks
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[10:22:18] <robwlo531> I'm encountering a wired issue using runtime workspace to test a plug-in project (emf model). the issue is that the package names of my classes have "bin." prepended to their names and I've got no idea why and where that comes from. "bin" is my output folder. Can anyone help me on this, please?
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[10:48:33] <Rakan> Hello All, How can i hide the svn file version number from the project explorer?
[10:49:16] <Rakan> using eclipse version: Version: 3.5.
[10:51:21] <robwlo531> @Rakan: Preferences->Team->SVN->Label Decorations->Text Decorations
[10:54:11] <Rakan> robwlo531, thanks :D
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[11:14:39] <jab_doa> hi
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[11:15:46] <jab_doa> i'm trying to use the galileo release. unfortunatelly i cannot enter anything into eclipse using a keyboard. works with other editors on the same pc. any idea how to fix this?
[11:15:56] <deSilva> nope
[11:16:58] <jab_doa> i works if i do strg+c in another editor and insert the text with strg+v in eclipse.
[11:16:58] <FauxFaux> ~info
[11:18:34] <deSilva> obviously, it should work. there isn't a "allow keyboard input on editor"-switch you happened to toggle. More information is needed
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[11:29:12] <Uzzi> hi
[11:29:30] <Uzzi> Is it possible to locate in italian eclipse 3.5 sdk?
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[11:45:28] <RandomTask> hello ... does anyone know ... if i would like to add a view to the JDT perspective ... what JDT view should i make it relative to? I have tried a few but it keeps showing up beside tabs at the bottom instead of inside them ...
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[11:51:13] <paulweb515_> RandomTask: if you pick a view, you can use ALT+SHIFT+F1 to activate Plug-in Spy
[11:51:53] <paulweb515_> RandomTask: it'll tell you some info about that view, including the ID
[11:53:08] <RandomTask> nice
[11:53:12] <RandomTask> thanks very much
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[11:56:38] <RandomTask> You just fixed my problem ... much appreciated
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[12:58:47] <CppIsWeird> is there any way to save profiles of color settings for syntax highlighting
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[13:46:08] <rcjsuen> CppIsWeird: only if the plug-in supports import/exporting it individually
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[14:09:51] <elyezer> when getting a directory path from a directory widget how to make sure that I can append a filename at the end and get no error? I thought to create a IFolder with that path and get the URI
[14:10:10] <elyezer> I'm asking it because the trailing slash that could be present or not
[14:10:34] <elyezer> sorry if it is not a Eclipse related question
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[14:16:46] <erdal> [menus] what is meant by "[...], you must provide the more verbose values element"?
[14:17:21] <erdal> found in the values attribute of commandParameter
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[14:22:09] <rcjsuen> elyezer: if you're worried why don't you just add/remove the slash yourself
[14:23:39] <elyezer> rcjsuen: I think I would do that, verify the last character, and add if necessary
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[14:33:35] <majkl578> Hi, can anyone help me? I am using eclipse with RSE (Remote System Explorer) and in its perspective PHP validation does not work :/
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[14:37:11] <majkl578> anyone?
[14:37:42] <rcjsuen> Technically speaking, perspectives shouldn't matter.
[14:39:47] <majkl578> well i dont understand it - i think it should behave same as when i use local file, but it does nort
[14:39:50] <majkl578> not*
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[14:42:46] <majkl578> it behaves oddly
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[14:48:42] <majkl578> any idea? :/
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[14:49:59] <rcjsuen> majkl578: You could try #pdt if someone is online. Or the PDT forums.
[14:50:28] <majkl578> rcjsuen: ok, thanks
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[14:51:04] <etfb> Playing around with Eclipse 3.2 in Ubuntu Linux.  One question I'm having trouble answering via Google: is it possible to do RAD development in Eclipse?  Think: Delphi, Visual (ugh!) Studio, etc.  Drag and drop controls on a form, double-click to write event handlers, deploy an executable.  Are the _stable_ facilities in Eclipse to do that?
[14:51:24] <etfb> s/Are the/Are there/
[14:51:40] <magmarules> hello there, im looking at eclipse link as a replacement for Hibernate. Is it sure to assume that unlike hibernate eclipse link does a smart management of caches and doesnt keep everything in session until it blows up ?
[14:53:12] <rcjsuen> etfb: Depends what programming language you're talking about. FYI 3.2.x is 3 years old. Plug-ins may or may not support that version.
[14:54:26] <etfb> rcjsuen: That's the downside of Ubuntu's package management system: you get old but supported versions of everything.  If you want more up-to-date versions, you download the source and configure/make/make install.  Which is fine: I want to test the waters first.
[14:55:20] <rcjsuen> Downloads from eclipse.org are binaries actually, but yes I see what you mean, I use Linux at home.
[14:55:24] <etfb> rcjsuen: But back to my question: I'm language agnostic.  I want a tool that can do RAD development; I don't mind what language (within reason; don't give me Visual COBOL and expect too much gratitude!).
[14:57:35] <Infinito> I use linux 3.5 with ubuntu, it's all good.
[14:57:46] <Infinito> for some things it's better not to rely on the repositories
[14:58:10] <Infinito> even cause just because it's there doesn't mean you really get more support than otherwise
[14:58:55] <Infinito> oops
[14:59:06] <rcjsuen> etfb: Trolltech has Qt plug-ins IIRC if you awnna do C++
[14:59:07] <Infinito> I mean "Eclipse 3.5", not 'linux 3.5'
[14:59:11] <Infinito> wth :p
[14:59:17] <etfb> Infinito: Certainly, I discovered that when I was playing around with MonoDevelop.  The "official" version was chiselled from granite and documented entirely in medieval Latin, and assumed that your OS was running on Eniac or a Cosmac Elf...
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[15:01:39] <etfb> rcjsuen: Hrrm.  Seems silly to do C++ development [*] in anything but the standard way, ie using gcc and all the tools like Glade.  It just wouldn't feel right using a modern IDE for something so ancient...  ([*] I could have ended that sentence at that point and been just as accurate.)
[15:01:56] <rcjsuen> etfb: I don't know C++, I wouldn't know.
[15:02:27] <rcjsuen> There are Java options if you want to use Java.
[15:02:30] <etfb> rcjsuen: It's not a good language to do application development in.  Not unless you're a masochist.
[15:02:47] <etfb> rcjsuen: What sort of thing?  I couldn't find any.
[15:03:11] <rcjsuen> your search criteria must be different than mine then
[15:03:14] <rcjsuen> ~java-gui
[15:03:15] <T-elos> Looking for a Java GUI designer plug-in for Eclipse? Go take a look at the *free* Visual Editor (http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE), Visual Swing for Eclipse (http://code.google.com/p/visualswing4eclipse/), Instantiations' *commercial* WindowBuilder (http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilderpro/), and/or Jigloo (http://www.cloudgarden.com/jigloo/) , which is *free for non-commercial use*.
[15:03:43] <etfb> rcjsuen: Ah, didn't think of that terminology.  It's all in the words you search for.
[15:05:54] <etfb> I remember seeing VE, and assuming it was actually a meta-tool, ie something you use to write Eclipse plugins.  I see now I was wrong.  Excellent!
[15:06:09] <etfb> (And it works in 3.2, which is a bonus.  Try before you buy, and all that...)
[15:06:10] <elyezer> is there any component that does the same as in Ant > Editor > Templates preference page? I want to create some templates to use with my plug-in
[15:08:42] <etfb> I shall avoid the commercial/non-free tools (commercial software is too much trouble) and of course be wary of anything on code.google.com, the home of alphaware...
[15:09:32] <rcjsuen> elyezer: use Alt+Shift+F1 to open its class, then use its superclass
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[15:10:40] <elyezer> rcjsuen: great tip thank you
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[15:16:22] <elyezer> can I get JDT as a plugin project to inspect its contents?
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[15:21:49] <elyezer> I've found the cvs repo
[15:21:51] <elyezer> thanks
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[15:44:58] <rcjsuen> elyezer: If you downloaded Eclipse Classic / SDK, you should have the sources locally.
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[15:45:38] <elyezer> rcjsuen: I've downloaded it... but now I've gotten the CVS repo
[15:45:44] <elyezer> thank you
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[15:53:12] <epalm> anyone using eclipse-jee-galileo with tomcat 6.0.18 (or equivalent)?
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[16:02:31] <elyezer> it's very complex to manage templates, need more study on it
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[16:12:45] <magmarules> Guys anyone knows anything about eclipse link?
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[17:53:31] <charley> How do I externalize strings on a Feature project? Normally I'd try the Source menu, but it doesn't show up for features...
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[18:45:05] <paulweb515> charley: is it available under PDE Tools if you right-click on the feature.xml
[18:45:07] <paulweb515> ?
[18:45:44] <charley> paulweb515: I only see Create Ant Build File
[18:46:32] <paulweb515> I don't see anything useful either ... maybe zx would know (but he's not here right now)
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[18:49:41] <paulweb515> charley: plugins have both "Externalize Strings" and "Internationalize" under PDE Tools ... I guess they don't help you with features so much
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[18:50:53] <charley> paulweb515: doesn't look like it :( Thanks though
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[19:37:44] <giaco> hello
[19:38:17] <giaco> do you know an extension that's able to export some kind of statistics from a project? Like the list of the classes, their number and so on
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[20:08:52] <epalm> eclipse 3.4.0: how can i prevent Search -> File from looking into .svn directories?
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[20:23:23] <paulweb515> giaco: I think there are plugins that can do that ... check out ~plugins
[20:23:24] <T-elos> Look for plug-ins at the Eclipse Plug-in Central (http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/) and EclipsePlugins (http://eclipse-plugins.info)
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[20:36:06] <rretzbach> Hi, in the org.eclipse.wst.common.component of a web project I can manually(xml-editor) add a <wb-resource/> Is there a GUI for that?
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[20:54:15] <d_a_carver> speaking of licensing, there is a possibility that Java 7 may include portions of JodaTime which I know has already been rejected by the foundation over pedigree concerns.
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[21:24:00] <egonw> hi all, I am building a PDE Plug-in template, but struggling with setting the exported packages and adding something to the created classpath...
[21:25:06] <egonw> I cannot find what methods and interfaces to use for that... any help, particular a pointer to a good tutorial beyond IBMs simple template one would be much appreciated
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[21:48:52] <Back2Basics> I would like to do an uninstall/reinstall of eclipse and associated modules pydev, c++, perl, something from google ect..  without deleting projects.  what kind of trouble am I looking for?
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[22:02:07] <egonw> Back2Basics: do you mean projects in your workspace? I reuse workspaces between eclipse install... should be no problem
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[22:04:13] <Back2Basics> I made a copy of my workspace (just in case) I deleted the eclipse app (on a mac) I found ~/.eclipse and ~/.eclipse_keys etc.. I was wondering if I missed something.
[22:04:14] <rcjsuen> Those files should not affect your projects.
[22:04:21] <rcjsuen> You could wipe those too (or back them up).
[22:08:10] <Back2Basics> ok
[22:08:27] <Back2Basics> which is newer carbon or cocoa?  (does it matter?)
[22:09:00] <rcjsuen> Back2Basics: Cocoa is the future.
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[22:09:32] <Back2Basics> so I should get used to it now :)   ok
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[22:25:20] <_markus__> Any idea where, in a Dynamic Web Project, can I configure the Web Module settings (context root, content directory) *after* I created the project? I only see this settings in the initial dialog
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[22:26:43] <egonw> I see the manifest.mf getting extra headers in NewProjectCreationOperation, but how do I get access to that?
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[22:34:14] <nitind> _markus__: Nothing in the UI, no, but you can try just renaming the folder to change the content directory.  There's a property page on the project to change the context root.
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[22:37:08] <incorrect> I was wondering if eclipse could solve the following problem for me,  I am writing a c++ app and i would like to be able to do a build when i do an svn commit from my work stations(remote box)
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[23:15:28] <tauren> anyone here using mylyn?  is there a way to add active time to a task?
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[23:18:02] <nitind> tauren: Isn't that done when you start an dstop working on one?
[23:18:09] <tauren> yes, it is.
[23:18:33] <tauren> but I want to add time to tasks when i was doing something else, like on a phone call, researching on the web, etc.
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[23:41:12] <beeman_nl> i would like to use eclipse birt just for excel reports... do i still need to install the full 40-something MB to my Java App server?
[23:41:19] <beeman_nl> or can i just pick the pieces i need?
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[23:48:22] <adac> anyone ever did something like that: virtualisation with kvm. Host is ubuntu jaunty (64 bit), Guest is ubuntu jaunty (32) bit. Now I wnat to make an ssh -X connection to the guest system and start eclipse over that. Problem is host system crashes
[23:48:49] <beeman_nl> adac: can you run another app over the ssh -X forward?
[23:48:56] <beeman_nl> xterm for instance?
[23:49:02] <adac> beeman_nl, yes I can do that
[23:49:09] <adac> no xrash at all
[23:49:12] <adac> *crash
[23:49:32] <beeman_nl> weird... do other java apps run?
[23:49:34] <adac> I see the eclipse window loading...and then after some time system freezes completely
[23:49:50] <adac> beeman_nl, that would be worth a test
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[23:50:15] <adac> which one is a java program (mean on satndard ubuntu installations)
[23:50:20] <adac> *standard
[23:50:25] <beeman_nl> i don't know adac
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[23:50:40] <adac> beeman_nl, ok I think I can find one
[23:50:42] <adac> :)
[23:51:31] <RenatoSilva> I've already [x] Use spaces for tabs, but it simply is not working! Even after restarting!
[23:52:17] <adac> beeman_nl, installing vuze ;)
[23:52:32] <beeman_nl> adac: or try starting javaws -viewer :)
[23:52:57] <adac> :)
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[23:53:46] <rcjsuen> RenatoSilva: Even for .txt files?
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[23:55:23] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: no, but there are duplicated, not obvious configs
[23:55:24] <adac> beeman_nl, http://pastebin.com/m3e41805
[23:55:44] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: there is one general and another a bit more hidden for Java
[23:56:05] <beeman_nl> adac: try starting xterm first and run javaws from that window?
[23:56:10] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: I think the Java page should inherit the config from default
[23:56:14] <beeman_nl> (just to try, i have no clue what's causing this)
[23:56:20] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: from general / text editors
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[23:56:51] <adac> beeman_nl, ok just a sec
[23:58:07] <adac> beeman_nl, ....installing azureus left no space on the device :/
[23:58:13] <adac> OMG :D
[23:58:15] <adac> hehe
[23:58:36] <adac> that causes the X11 error for sure
[23:59:08] <beeman_nl> lol adac :D
[23:59:16] <beeman_nl> full disks are a bitch in Linux
[23:59:35] <adac> beeman_nl, I noticed that more then once
[23:59:55] <adac> beeman_nl, you know what is even the greater bitch?

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