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[00:00:30] <Haris`> no nothing rcjsuen
[00:01:47] <rcjsuen> perhaps you could provide a screenshot of your whole setup with the error message/dialog instead of this one block of text
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[00:02:44] <Haris`> rcjsuen http://is.gd/32ZHd
[00:03:39] <elyezer> tomorrow I'll implement check event listener to select subtrees or deselect them and it will be finished =D
[00:04:09] <elyezer> thank you very much rcjsuen and nitind =)
[00:04:20] <rcjsuen> Haris`: Did you try other folders?
[00:04:36] <rcjsuen> seems like a nesting problem, where is your workspace anyway
[00:04:43] <Haris`> yes same error rcjsuen
[00:04:53] <Haris`> My workspace is located in F:\projects
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[00:05:04] <rcjsuen> what if you select 'Create new project in workspace' instead
[00:05:07] <Haris`> well I can create a project fine
[00:05:15] <Haris`> yea, then no error rcjsuen
[00:05:29] <Haris`> But the thing is I can create just the PROJECT fine but not the PHP project
[00:06:04] <rcjsuen> Eh?
[00:06:32] <Haris`> I can create a general project on that path but not the PHP project
[00:06:35] <Haris`> rcjsuen ^
[00:06:48] <rcjsuen> o ok
[00:06:50] <rcjsuen> file a bug then
[00:07:50] <rcjsuen> tho i would technically expect it to work since it should be the same code
[00:07:56] <rcjsuen> but i guess the php validation might've added more hooks
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[00:21:09] <FreakyPenguin> hi
[00:22:21] <_markus__> Where can I configure the "Context root" and "Content directory" for a dynamic web project *after* I created it?
[00:22:41] <_markus__> I'm only able to find this setting during initial project configuration
[00:23:10] <Aleph_One> Why are the key bindings completely different when running mac osx compared to windows/linux? ctrl+space, ctrl+, etc :o
[00:23:26] <Aleph_One> i know mac has its way but this is just... messy
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[00:27:56] <LaireTM> Hello,  there a Autocompletion function in eclipse? I use the PhpDev package
[00:30:47] <FreakyPenguin> I have a strange problem with a exclipse rcp app. I have developed a Plugin, and it works like a Charm if I run it using eclipse. But as soon as I export it and copy it into the extern instance of the app, neither the registered view nor the perspective is displayed. On the console ss displays "active'. Any ideas?
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[00:33:47] <rcjsuen> LaireTM: should be control+space
[00:34:18] <LaireTM> ok thx
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[00:36:57] <rcjsuen> FreakyPenguin: Window > Show View > Other..., yo ucan't find it there?
[00:37:04] <FreakyPenguin> No i cant
[00:39:01] <rcjsuen> what's inside your jar file, did you check?
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[00:42:02] <FreakyPenguin> rcjsuen: Well, a bunch of class-files and a MANIFEST.MF. Looks reasonable, doesn't it?
[00:42:33] <rcjsuen> depends
[00:42:36] <rcjsuen> pastebin the output of jar tf x.jar
[00:42:47] <FreakyPenguin> Or should the plugin.xml be ther too?
[00:43:27] <FreakyPenguin> http://www.nopaste.info/498ae0bd7f.html
[00:44:17] <rcjsuen> sounds like you're not familiar with what the plugin.xml file does
[00:44:22] <rcjsuen> but to put it in one word, yes
[00:45:01] <FreakyPenguin> you're right, yes ;-)
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[00:45:46] <rcjsuen> unless you have a second bundle that supplies it
[00:45:46] <rcjsuen> but that's somewhat "advanced"
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[00:47:10] <FreakyPenguin> I guess I should read some documentation about all this some day... ;-)
[00:48:14] <rcjsuen> well you can read it now...or read it later, when you hit another problem
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[00:48:42] <rcjsuen> either that or you switch teams then yeah i guess you don't need to know too much then
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[00:56:35] <FreakyPenguin> rcjsuen: Is there anything else missing? Because that doesn't seem to change anything
[00:59:09] <rcjsuen> FreakyPenguin: It still doesn't show up in the show view dialog?
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[01:00:16] <FreakyPenguin> Yeah, nor in the show perspective dialog or in the perspective bar
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[01:02:53] <rcjsuen> FreakyPenguin: What's in your jar file now?
[01:04:22] <FreakyPenguin> I added about anything I could in eclipse ;-) http://nopaste.com/p/aty4IGs9T
[01:05:06] <rcjsuen> how did you export
[01:05:53] <FreakyPenguin> Contextmenu of my plugin, then export and  deployable plugins and fragments
[01:09:15] <rcjsuen> seems okay to me, what's in your plugin.xml and MANIFEST.MF file?
[01:10:05] <FreakyPenguin> plugin.xml: http://nopaste.com/p/aEKYh4zfz
[01:10:35] <FreakyPenguin> manifest: http://nopaste.com/p/am6rnhy9ib
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[01:14:08] <rcjsuen> FreakyPenguin: try maybe deleting the stuff in your plugin.xml except the view extension
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[01:19:31] <FreakyPenguin> Doesnt change anything :/
[01:20:35] <rcjsuen> FreakyPenguin: did you try a fresh install of that application with your plugin added?
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[01:27:54] <FreakyPenguin> rcjsuen: yes, but doesnt help eithier
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[01:33:38] <rcjsuen> FreakyPenguin: what if you just make a new plug-in that generates a view and put that in?
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[01:47:23] <FreakyPenguin> rcjsuen: Hm seems to work
[01:48:00] <rcjsuen> i would hope so
[01:48:25] <FreakyPenguin> *g*
[01:49:03] <FreakyPenguin> I'll try to create a new plugin by copying the old code...
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[02:44:51] <FreakyPenguin> rcjsuen: Seems to work. thx very much
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[03:50:22] <brownegg> anyone know of any new(ish) books that teach java using eclipse?
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[03:52:42] <rcjsuen> Personally I just picked up Java in class and then switched to Eclipse myself later.
[03:53:17] <brownegg> my issue is that i know java the language fine
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[03:53:29] <brownegg> from reading, messing around, knowing C-style stuff, etc.
[03:53:46] <brownegg> but trying to pick up an IDE, testing and building frameworks, etc.
[03:53:47] <brownegg> is a pita
[03:55:13] <rcjsuen> I just used it like any other Java editor. All I knew was Ctrl+Space, Ctrl+Shift+O, and Ctrl+Shift+F, but that was good enough for me anyway back then.
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[04:30:44] <d_a_carver> brownegg: suggest taking a look through: http://www.vogella.de/articles/Eclipse/article.html
[04:31:00] <d_a_carver> should give you a good overview of the common functions when working with java development in eclipse
[04:31:28] <d_a_carver> brownegg: most of it is just learning the keyboard combinations or how to assign your own keyboard shortcuts.
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[04:32:46] <d_a_carver> brownegg: for a quick reference on common short cut keys: http://www.vogella.de/articles/EclipseShortcuts/article.html
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[04:40:59] <brownegg> d_a_carver: thx!
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[04:47:48] <CoRnJuLiOx> i've got eclipse and I've managed to install EPIC, but the syntax highlighting doesn't seem to be working. I've started a new perl project, and added a file to it but the syntax highlighting isn't working. do I need to do anything special to turn it on?
[04:51:57] <d_a_carver> CoRnJuLiOx: I'd check their faq: http://www.epic-ide.org/faq.php
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[05:09:36] <CoRnJuLiOx> hmm
[05:09:39] <CoRnJuLiOx> nope, no leads on that site
[05:16:44] <d_a_carver> CoRnJuLiOx: did you add the interpreter to the appropriate preference settings?  From what it is saying you need to specify the iterpreter so you get Syntax Highlighting.
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[05:18:48] <CoRnJuLiOx> yeah i did
[05:22:20] <d_a_carver> CoRnJuLiOx: I'd probably ask on their forums then.
[05:23:37] <CoRnJuLiOx> yeah looks like I'm gonna have to
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[05:58:53] <Nate75Sanders> Using most recent Galileo and for some reason, despite having my URL for external javadoc configured correctly, I can't shift+F2 and get info on stuff.....it's complaining that I don't have javadoc for standard stuff like String, etc...any ideas?
[05:59:12] <nitind> Nate75Sanders: DO you have JavaDoc or sources for that stuff?
[05:59:31] <Nate75Sanders> nitind: I'm just pointing it to a URL
[05:59:36] <Nate75Sanders> nitind: sun's site
[05:59:48] <nitind> It's not having problems, is it?
[06:00:13] <Nate75Sanders> nitind: Yes....it's having big problems....I can't view simple things like "String" and many other basic things
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[06:05:37] <nitind> Nate75Sanders: No, I mean outside of Eclipse.
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[06:06:21] <Nate75Sanders> nitind: I don't think I have the source installed for the jdk if that's what you're asking
[06:06:34] <Nate75Sanders> nitind: if that's relevant, I sure didn't know it
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[06:07:08] <Nate75Sanders> nitind: update -- some of my projects correctly access the external javadoc info and some don't
[06:07:11] <Nate75Sanders> so strange
[06:07:45] <nitind> Nate75Sanders: It can come from there, and that's what I usually do (target the libs from a JDK instead of a JRE).  Are they all using the same JRE from the Installed JREs preference page?
[06:08:24] <Nate75Sanders> nitind: they should be....i'll double-check
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[06:10:10] <Nate75Sanders> nitind: thanks for your help .... i need to go now....i'll check into this
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[07:54:06] <NicolasRaoul> using the Web Services Explorer, is it possible to force the use of a particular user/password ? The problem is that the web service also accepts anonymous requests, so Eclipse does not ask me for any password
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[08:06:57] <sleon_> hi
[08:07:13] <sleon_> where can i read on a special eclipse annotations for source code: something like do not use
[08:07:16] <sleon_> or do not subclass
[08:08:27] <nitind> sleon_: Search for PDE API tooling.
[08:08:50] <sleon_> nitind: thx
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[09:28:38] <sleon_> hi
[09:29:03] <sleon_> java normally shows warnings, if i use collection without specifiing their type.
[09:30:11] <sleon_> but i to not see warnings for all classes like ObservableList or WritableList WrtaibleMap and so forth from org.eclipse.core.databinding.*, although they use untyped collections everywhere. How is it possible that these warnings got suppressed?
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[09:33:07] <rethus> if i want to start eclipse, i get the loading screen, and after this a empty dialoge-box (without bottons and text). Nothing else happens. And on the konsole, no error displayed.
[09:33:13] <rethus> what could be the problem?
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[09:43:14] <rethus> can i install only one specific eclipse package (jdt) or can i install more than one (jdt, pdt)
[09:43:54] <nitind> You can start with one and then install the rest of the features into it.
[09:47:49] <rethus> ok, thanks
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[10:11:50] <PointMan> is the build.properties file in a java project only used in java projects or in Eclipse projects in general?
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[10:17:31] <Kira> What happened to the Ganymede SR2 Java EE Cocoa package for Mac OS X? I can't download it from eclipse.org anymore.
[10:19:12] <deSilva> sure you can
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[10:20:36] <CoRnJuLiOx> does anyone know how to remove repositories from Subclipse? I added one and can't figure out how to get rid of it or change the login details associated with it.
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[10:21:57] <deSilva> the perspective svn repository exploration?
[10:22:38] <CoRnJuLiOx> ?
[10:22:55] <deSilva> open it you donkey
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[10:23:25] <Kira> deSilva: try this: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/ganymede/SR2/eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR2-macosx-cocoa.tar.gz
[10:24:34] <deSilva> Kira: I thought you couldn't find the link, it does appear to be broken, yes.
[10:25:02] <Kira> Any official mirror out there?
[10:25:13] <Mex|Home_> ~mirrors
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[10:28:27] <rethus> i have installed now eclipse Galileo (PHP - eclipse)
[10:28:44] <rethus> which repositories shouild i add to the "Install" dialoge? its emty now
[10:28:52] <rethus> there are a collection of adresses?
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[10:32:13] <deSilva> that question doesn't make much sense to me, are you trying to install something? if so, what?
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[10:32:30] <deSilva> but I haven't used eclipse to develop in php I should add
[10:35:25] <rethus> deSilva: i have installed eclipse GALILEO complete new . Now i will check, for some other plugins, but there are no adresses into the dialoge to install new software
[10:36:22] <rethus> menas, if i want to add java, jee, or webdav support, xml or something else... i didn't know, wich adresses i have to use
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[10:43:33] <deSilva> rethus: personally, I download my plugins manually so I can setup and new eclipse workstation without needing working internet access.
[10:44:08] <rethus> i have found this: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/babel/update-site/galileo
[10:44:20] <rethus> this should translate my eclipse in german language.
[10:44:28] <deSilva> don't
[10:44:35] <rethus> but this site not work. any idea where i can get a german language-pack
[10:46:58] <rethus> and where can i get a GIT-Plugin for eclipse
[10:47:19] <deSilva> language packs, I dont know...I prefer the english version myself actually, because it makes asking for help and following tutorials a lot easier
[10:47:55] <deSilva> rethus: have you googled for "eclipse git plugin"?
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[10:48:55] <rethus> deSilva: ok, than i don't change to german... your reason is a good tipp
[10:49:42] <rethus> no, i ask in this secified irc, cause here are all the know how, and it build up on my problem before (empty adresslist - and "which repositories should i use)
[10:50:27] <deSilva> rethus: maybe this one for git: http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/EclipsePlugin
[10:51:33] <rethus> so - only that i understand it - i insert this "update-link" (http://www.jgit.org/updates) into my adresses in eclipse-update ?
[10:52:51] <Terminus> rethus: yes, just add it then install EGit.
[10:53:03] <rethus> ok, thanks a lot
[10:53:43] <rethus> my first steps with eclipse was made now, and i hope "eclipse" would be a friend of mine
[10:54:56] <deSilva> I hated my first encounter with eclipse, now I love it. :)
[10:55:03] <Terminus> rethus: once you have it installed, you can clone a git repo under file --> import. once you have a clone with projects, right click on the project. the git stuff is under the team menu.
[10:55:32] <Terminus> deSilva: so did i. tried it 8 years ago, found it to slow. started using it 5 days ago, and loving it. =)
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[10:56:07] <rethus> terminus: thanks for this hint.
[10:56:22] <rethus> but i have a new problem. i create my first projext, and get this message:
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[10:57:29] <Terminus> i'm still having problems setting the name and email address for commits. i posted to eclipse.newcomers but no takers. =/
[10:57:32] <rethus> http://yfrog.com/5keclipseerrorj
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[10:59:10] <rethus> ah, i have set in the first dialoge to use php 5.1 till 5.2 Now i have use default-phpsetting, and it work
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[11:00:47] <rethus> wow, i have import my php-project, an found directly 5 files, which has an error... i think the great love with eclipse is started now - for me
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[11:01:25] <rethus> are there some tutorials to learn how to use php-eclipse (to find out all the features)?
[11:03:15] <rethus> wow, my "TODO" comments now clearly listet under console - great
[11:03:19] <CoRnJuLiOx> is eclipse supposed to render HTML pages? i kinda needed to edit the source.
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[11:04:03] <deSilva> CoRnJuLiOx: right-click, select open with?
[11:04:10] <CoRnJuLiOx> ah. there we go.
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[11:07:37] <rethus> i have this line of code:
[11:07:37] <rethus> <form name=formular action="<?php echo $pfad; ?>" method="post"> and the FORM-Tag is be closed some lines after this, but the debugger say: Description	Resource	Path	Location	Type
[11:07:37] <rethus> Start tag (<form>) not closed.	template.pm_edit.html	/ProductMatrix/templates/standard	line 11	HTML Problem
[11:07:50] <rethus> is this cause of <?php in the html code?
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[11:10:20] <CoRnJuLiOx> what exactly does 'refactoring' mean (in the context of programming)?
[11:11:31] 
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[11:21:22] <Egelmex> CoRnJuLiOx: prob not the right place to ask, but refactoring is changing code in the aim to improve some factor of it, i.e. readability, or maintanability
[11:22:17] <rethus> thats my html-code: http://rethus.pastebin.com/d58a3471a
[11:22:36] <rethus> on line 11 eclipse gives me an error
[11:22:57] <rethus> cause of <?php ... how can i validate such html/php mixed documents?
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[11:26:35] <Egelmex> rethus: you have missing quotes somewhere i think
[11:27:23] <Egelmex> <form name=formular -> <form name="formular"
[11:27:39] <rethus> egelmex: i didn't see it, looks pretty clean for me... cause before, there are no missettings for quotes
[11:29:13] <rethus> aha, i think it does no matter if there is no whitespace into the parm, but i'll try it.
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[11:31:26] <rethus> so if i go to the red error-dot i get this:
[11:31:26] <rethus> Invalid character used in text string (<?php echo $pfad; ?>"
[11:31:59] <rethus> is it possible to set kind of ignore chars if into quotes
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[11:42:28] <rethus> is there a how to, what should i do, if i start with phpeclipse (configuration external programms like php, apache and so on?)
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[11:49:53] <rethus> is there a way to push changed files via eclipse directly to the webspace?
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[12:03:44] <rethus> how can i push my files to my webserver?
[12:04:37] <jink> I have a local webserver that uses my source folder.  You can do that with Tomcat / Glassfish as well.
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[12:31:11] <RandomTask> hello ... does anyone know ... if i would like to add a view to the JDT perspective ... what JDT view should i make it relative to? I have tried a few but it keeps showing up beside tabs at the bottom instead of inside them ...
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[12:45:04] <rethus>  jink: the problem is, that this server is in the internet, not local.
[12:45:19] <rethus> is there a plugin wich do this (ftp upload or something else)?
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[12:47:33] <rethus> isn't there a adress, wehere i can find all these eclipse-plugins in my section install and update
[12:47:34] <rethus> ?
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[12:50:47] <rethus> i don't understand this fully at this time. why not there a basic-repository, where a user can find all plugins?
[12:51:25] <jink> You _do_ realise that apache is available for both unix and windows, right? :)
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[13:08:06] <kwork> i have code folding enabled, but i dont see any buttons to fold the code, what could be the problem
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[13:15:12] <rethus> i have installed EcSplorer, but cant find it in my eclipse after restart
[13:15:20] <rethus> where does the settings for this plugin are?
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[13:47:15] <gnu_d> Hi, what to do with classes or library's which are out of sync, I removed them externally, now I get that annoying message, can I refresh the lib folder or how else can I remove them ?
[13:50:39] <rcjsuen> rethus: A lot of bandwidth would be required, and infrastructure.
[13:51:27] <rcjsuen> sleon_: I think those warnings are suppressed because they are not targeting 1.5.
[13:51:45] <rcjsuen> sleon_: If I am not using 1.5 libs (parameterized classes), then I am not doing anything "wrong".
[13:53:08] <xerath> I've just installed Eclipse for PHP developers, and I'm trying to "Run" a PHP script.. It keep telling me "Error launching 'test' The session could not be started. In order to generate debug information, please make sure that the debugger is properly configured as a php.ini directive." <- How do I do that?
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[13:55:31] <gnu_d> ups, I found my answer to the out of sync problem, right click refresh project explorer :D.
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[14:05:44] <rethus> rcjsuen: hi have try it now, and it works good... seems not to use many ressources of cpu and bandwith
[14:06:23] <rcjsuen> rethus: You mean the update system?
[14:06:58] <rethus> i mean EcSplorer
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[14:07:47] <rcjsuen> rethus: my msg was referring to -> [12:50:47] <rethus> i don't understand this fully at this time. why not there a basic-repository, where a user can find all plugins?
[14:08:25] <rethus> ah, ok, i thought it was refering for 13:16
[14:08:32] <rethus> ok, thanks for your answer
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[14:23:23] <deSilva> Is there an "untabify" for eclipse? I wanted to print some source and the tabs dont look good
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[14:31:56] <Kira> Was there never a cocoa build of Ganymede SR2?
[14:32:22] <rcjsuen> Kira: Cocoa came in 3.5/Galileo. Your statement is correct.
[14:32:37] <jink> :D
[14:32:48] <Kira> no wonder the link to the cocoa package is broken...
[14:33:00] <rcjsuen> The link?
[14:33:26] <rcjsuen> What link are you talking about
[14:33:46] <Kira> Here: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/ganymede/sr2
[14:34:21] <Kira> There is a link to a supposed cocoa build of the Java EE Developers distribution.
[14:34:28] <rcjsuen> Kira: File a bug.
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[14:40:15] <paulweb515> deSilva: it can reformat and (in theory) replace the tabs with spaces ... would that help?
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[14:43:50] <CVertex> hi everyone!
[14:44:01] <CVertex> does anyone here do eclipse plugin development? Is this the place to ask questions?
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[14:44:56] <rcjsuen> CVertex: yes you ask in here
[14:45:28] <CVertex> i wrote a simple plugin based on a GEF sample - http://code.google.com/p/reekieviewdiagrammer/
[14:45:40] <CVertex> except when I try to export it using the wizard i get the error
[14:45:50] <CVertex> "Could not find one or more classes: "org.apache.tools.ant.launch.AntMain". Please check the Ant classpath."
[14:46:08] <CVertex> I've tried quite a large number of things to correct this error
[14:46:38] <CVertex> it's a strange error because Eclipse itself set up Ant for me, as Ant is installed in the eclipse/plugin folder
[14:46:41] <CVertex> i'm using Mac OS X
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[14:53:56] <paulweb515> CVertex: if you go to the ant launch config (that it generated for you) there should be an option to run ant in the same JVM as eclipse
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[14:54:29] <paulweb515> CVertex: it's on the JRE tab
[14:54:32] <CVertex> paulweb515: thanks paul. where can i find the ant launch config?
[14:54:33] <CVertex> oh
[14:54:35] <CVertex> lol
[14:54:56] <CVertex> just to confirm, is this in the Eclipse Preferences?
[14:55:10] <paulweb515> CVertex: the ant launch config would be under Run>External Tools>External Tools Configurations
[14:56:52] <CVertex> okay, under the JRE tab i set the Runtime JRE to "run in the same JRE as the workspace"?
[14:58:01] <CVertex> okay, i tried that and i still get the same Deploy error
[14:58:09] <CVertex> i should add that Run/Debugging still works fine
[14:58:25] <CVertex> when I press Run/Debug it correctly loads another eclipse instance with my plugin
[14:58:35] <CVertex> i've been able to add features for quite a while
[14:58:59] <CVertex> the only issue left is due to this error I'm getting when attempting to deploy the plugin via the Export Wizard
[14:59:07] <CVertex> there's something strange about how the Export Wizard is working
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[14:59:41] <paulweb515> CVertex: the export wizard is complaining about AntMain?
[14:59:53] <CVertex> paulweb515: yes
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[15:03:30] <CVertex> i wrote out my issue also as a stack overflow question
[15:03:30] <CVertex> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1399323/attempting-to-export-deploy-an-eclipse-plugin-i-created-eclipse-complains-of-bad
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[15:05:36] <CVertex> paulweb515: have you encountered an issue like this before? all my settings in eclipse are pretty much the defaults
[15:05:39] <rcjsuen> Kira: thx for the bug report
[15:08:21] <paulweb515> CVertex: I almost never export from eclipse, since I have to do builds I do PDE automated builds
[15:08:58] <CVertex> paulweb515: is there an alternate way for me to build and deploy my plugin that doesn't involve that wizard?
[15:10:45] <paulweb515> CVertex: "I needed to manually add /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.apache.ant_1.6.5/lib/ant-launcher.jar to the Ant classpath in the preferences to make it work. "
[15:10:54] <paulweb515> CVertex: but that looked like a 3.2.x problem
[15:11:26] <CVertex> paulweb515: yes, that's what my googling showed too. i've tried that and it didn't work
[15:12:06] <paulweb515> CVertex: adding the ant launcher didn't help?  what version of eclipse are you using?
[15:12:36] <paulweb515> CVertex: if discodan shows up I can ping him about it, but otherwise I'm stumped
[15:12:44] <CVertex> paulweb515: i'm using 3.5 - gallileo
[15:13:01] <CVertex> paulweb515: please explain where i should "add the ant launcher"?
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[15:13:28] <CVertex> it was already added to Prefs>Ant>Runtime>ClassPath>AntHomeEntries
[15:13:56] <paulweb515> CVertex: that must not be the root of your problem .... hmmm
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[15:17:32] <paulweb515> CVertex: is there anything in your error log?  ~logs
[15:17:32] <T-elos> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[15:19:08] <CVertex> paulweb515: http://pastie.org/610961
[15:20:40] <paulweb515> CVertex: your best bet would be to open a bug against PDE/UI https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=PDE&component=UI
[15:21:00] <paulweb515> CVertex: in 3.5 this should work
[15:21:12] <CVertex> Maybe it's cos I'm using OSX
[15:21:21] <paulweb515> CVertex: were there any errors before those logs?
[15:21:28] <CVertex> paulweb515: nope
[15:21:43] <paulweb515> CVertex: you're right, it might be an OSX problem that they need to fix
[15:21:54] <CVertex> are you using windows atm?
[15:22:10] <paulweb515> CVertex: linux
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[15:23:47] <xerath> I'm having some issues with Eclipse 3.5 and PHP.. When I try to run a script (as a shell script) from Eclipse, I get an error message saying "The session could not be started. In order to generate debug information, please make sure that the debugger is properly configured as a php.ini directive". Now, I've skimmed through php.ini without finding anything relevant to this... Any ideas what to do? (yes, I googled first, no luck)
[15:24:17] <CVertex> paulweb515: i'm going to set up a fresh eclipse installation on windows and try building from there
[15:24:23] <CVertex> maybe it'll work smoother on window
[15:24:24] <CVertex> s
[15:24:37] <CVertex> otherwise I'll need to find another option for deployment
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[15:31:05] <rethus> now if i start, i get "Workspace in use or cannot created, choose different one.
[15:31:12] <rethus> the machine was in standby.
[15:31:15] <rethus> whats the problem?
[15:33:56] <rcjsuen> The FAQ in the channel topic provides some suggestions to workaround/fix that problem.
[15:36:00] <rethus> thanks
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[15:47:41] <amitz> say, by any chance, can I run my eclipse in a ways such that the heavy lifting is done on the server, the interfacing is done by the client. Not X11 forwarding. The display is really handled by the client instead.
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[15:52:12] <rcjsuen> I believe Google does that with their builders.
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[15:56:28] <paulweb515> amitz: except for the work RAP has done, there's not a current notion of "my workspace on the server with my client connected to the server" with either web or SWT client
[15:56:31] <amitz> rcjsuen: interesting. I'm back to googling
[15:56:50] <paulweb515> amitz: that is one of the usecases that we are considering for e4
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[15:57:52] <CVertex> paulweb515: just finished setting it all up in windows and checked out my code and BOOM, export wizard built perfectly fine on windows
[15:58:01] <rcjsuen> as they have some complicated distributed build system, how they integrate it with Eclipse I do not know
[15:58:11] <CVertex> paulweb515: therefore that bug hasn't been fixed on Mac OSX?
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[15:58:49] <amitz> paulweb515: I must take some time to digest what you said.
[15:59:27] <paulweb515> CVertex: it sounds like it ... it's worth opening a bug so that it can be looked at
[15:59:32] <amitz> rcjsuen: but I guess it means that's doable.
[15:59:50] <CVertex> paulweb515: where do i log the bug again?
[15:59:56] <rcjsuen> ~bugzilla
[15:59:56] <T-elos> Eclipse Bugzilla - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/
[15:59:58] <rcjsuen> PDE/UI
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[16:01:01] <paulweb515> PDE/UI https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=PDE&component=UI
[16:02:09] <CVertex> okay, ill log a bug once i completely do the deploy cycle... is anyone here running windows?
[16:02:26] <amitz> paulweb515: got it, you're considering it, and that's all. thanks!
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[16:02:54] <amitz> rcjsuen: I just hope google share it with us.
[16:03:22] <rcjsuen> well you can keep praying
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[16:04:12] <CVertex> paulweb515: the export wizard created a zip file for me, how do i now install the plugin using that zip file?
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[16:05:39] <deSilva> paulweb515: that's what I ended up doing, but I didn't really want to change the formatting rules, only convert the tabs for this one operation
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[16:10:53] <rethus> i have problems with charset in an imprtetd project. how can i set it to display umlauts right
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[16:13:06] <cr0mulent> is anyone on ganymede and snow leopard? im having issues with my java build path
[16:13:25] <CVertex> java runs waaay better on windows than OSX
[16:13:29] <cr0mulent> for java 1.5
[16:13:34] <CVertex> i wonder if snow leopard runs java better
[16:13:50] <cr0mulent> CVertex: So far, I have no idea :-)
[16:13:57] <rcjsuen> cr0mulent: Describing your problem would get you better mileage.
[16:14:07] <CVertex> my plugin flies on windows but chokes on OSX
[16:14:13] <CVertex> maybe cos i was running it in instanced mode
[16:15:20] <cr0mulent> I upgraded to snow leopard, started up eclipse and I am getting errors that my build paths are wrong. here is the problem: Description	Resource	Path	Location	Type
[16:15:21] <cr0mulent> The project was not built since its build path is incomplete. Cannot find the class file for java.lang.Object. Fix the build path then try building this project	xxxxxxxx		Unknown	Java Problem
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[16:15:46] <rcjsuen> cr0mulent: And what if you make a new project?
[16:15:55] <krbarnes> cr0mulent: try using Java6, there's no Java 5 vm on snow leopard
[16:16:35] <cr0mulent> no java 6 eh.
[16:16:43] <cr0mulent> i didnt want to do it but i guess i have no choice
[16:16:54] <cr0mulent> alright I will try it.
[16:18:16] <cr0mulent> Yeah it looks like java 5 is out entirely.
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[16:37:44] <charley> Is there a way to find a list of all files that implement a given abstract method?
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[16:40:47] <jink> charley: Hilight it, press control-g .
[16:41:01] <jink> Should list all declarations.
[16:43:12] <charley> jink: thanks :)
[16:43:48] <rcjsuen> There's also Ctrl+T, but that will hang the UI thread.
[16:44:16] <rcjsuen> And not exactly the same thing as Ctrl+G.
[16:45:04] <charley> rcjsuen: neat, thanks for the tip :)
[16:45:24] <keya> Hi.  I wanted to know what is the difference when a plug-in is deployed as a jar and when it is deployed as a folder?  Why would any one want to package a deployable plug-in as folders?
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[16:48:02] <rcjsuen> keya: Ant for example is deployed as an exploded jar.
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[16:50:07] <keya> rcjsuen: Yeah, but what's the reason and what difference does it make to have an exploded jar over a jar?  And is it recommended because most of the plug-ins are bundles as jars only.
[16:50:23] <rcjsuen> there's no real difference (besides the size i guess)
[16:50:49] <rcjsuen> well when you download ant and you unzip it's exploded, eclipse prefers not complicating things, and Ant also has its own jars
[16:51:07] <rcjsuen> for launching Ant within Eclipse's Ant tooling it'd just be easier if all the jars were there to construct a classpath i guess
[16:51:54] <rcjsuen> I deploy KOS-MOS as an exploded jar because I need file IO
[16:52:05] <rcjsuen> in theory i don't have to (i could do file IO elsewhere) but i'm lazy
[16:52:23] <keya> rcjsuen: Okay.  So if I have to deploy my plug-ins should I package them as individual jars or not?
[16:52:38] <rcjsuen> well every bundle would be a jar
[16:52:58] <rcjsuen> as long as you're not writing files you could probably live with a jar
[16:53:39] <keya> rcjsuen: Okay.  So that means if I need to fetch certain files from the bundles I should deploy as an exploded jar?
[16:53:50] <rcjsuen> well if you're just reading then it doesn't matter
[16:54:07] <rcjsuen> if you're writing, then, not as straightforward since you're trying to write a file in a zip file
[16:54:30] <rcjsuen> then can be done tho i dunno what adverse effects it'll have, at runtime in particular
[16:56:33] <keya> rcjsuen: Right.  But I have observed that if I bundle the plug-in as jar and if I want to fetch resources from it like templates or some sample code etc, FileLocator is unable to fetch the resource from the given URL.
[16:56:51] <keya> rcjsuen: But it works if I package it as an exploded jar.
[16:56:57] <rcjsuen> if you can't you're probably doing it wrong then
[16:57:16] <rcjsuen> FileLocator is used all over the place
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[17:01:08] <keya> rcjsuen: Right.  Okay.
[17:01:20] <rcjsuen> keya: are you getting exceptions?
[17:01:23] <rcjsuen> i guess you probably are
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[17:03:01] <keya> rcjsuen: Yes.  I observe difference in behavior when I deploy bundle as a jar and as an exploded jar.
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[17:04:38] <rcjsuen> keya: But when you self-host in Eclipse FileLocator is fine?
[17:04:45] <rcjsuen> but i guess in that case it's an exploded jar (your project folder)
[17:04:47] <keya> rcjsuen: Yes
[17:07:02] <keya> rcjsuen: The problem comes because the URL which is returned from Bundle#getEntry("") is null is the case of jar.
[17:07:29] <rcjsuen> why do you do "" anyway
[17:07:35] <keya> rcjsuen: Hence FileLocator in my case ultimately throws an exception which converting the URL to file.  Hence FileLocator is not a problem.
[17:07:49] <rcjsuen> and why are you converting to file:///?
[17:07:56] <keya> rcjsuen:  No I do pass the required bundle entry as an argument.  I just skipped it here. :-S
[17:07:59] <rcjsuen> aren't you just reading files?
[17:08:25] <keya> rcjsuen: Yeah I am reading files.
[17:08:45] <rcjsuen> what is the purpose of converting to url to file (java.io.File?)?
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[17:09:31] <rcjsuen> pastebin some code
[17:09:54] <keya> rcjsuen: Oh well...long story.  Will paste code.
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[17:11:32] <nullPlan> hi
[17:11:54] <nullPlan> got a strange problem in eclipse
[17:12:28] <keya> rcjsuen: Here. http://pastebin.com/m3f5400ab
[17:12:49] <nullPlan> i used the StyledCellLabelProvider on a table and it behaves differently on different OS
[17:13:01] <nullPlan> on mac os x everything works as it should
[17:13:16] <rcjsuen> keya: well, yeah, files in a jar isn't gonna be a java.io.File
[17:13:29] <nullPlan> on windows it works too
[17:13:40] <rcjsuen> nullPlan: there's a bug on gtk+ i know of anyway
[17:13:59] <nullPlan> oh
[17:14:15] <nullPlan> that would actually make sense why it doesn't work on ubuntu
[17:14:22] <keya> rcjsuen: I fetch a directory, and I have to list it in a treeviewer.  So I iterate over the list and populate the tree.
[17:14:55] <rcjsuen> only way you would fly around this is if you read yourself (the zip/jar file) and used java IO apis to identify files/directories
[17:15:02] <rcjsuen> or you could just explode the jar
[17:15:08] <rcjsuen> dunno any other way myself, maybe others have suggestiosn
[17:15:37] <keya> rcjsuen: Yes hence I have to use an exploded jar to make this work.
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[17:23:06] <jonalv> I am looking at a class that implements org.eclipse.core.commands.AbstractHandler. It has an execute method that I want to run. However that takes an ExecutionEvent. What the heck is an Execution event? Do I just create one or am I supposed to use this in some other strange way?
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[17:32:02] <charley> jonalv: I'm not sure, but that looks like something you should activate through an Eclipse command... http://www.vogella.de/articles/EclipseCommands/article.html
[17:32:21] <charley> (the article is just the first one I could find on Eclipse commands that mentions the execute method of AbstractHandler/IHandler
[17:32:31] <jonalv> k
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[17:39:59] <mindmedic> I got a plugin project that uses org.jboss.netty for communication. The netty jar file is in "Referenced libraries" and the plugin compiles fine. However when executing theplugin the views miss the netty library. Where do I put the librarys that my plugin relies on? Is it possible to include them on export in the plugins/ folder in the zip file and deploy them alongside the plugin?
[17:41:19] <Odin_> I have just installed Eclipse 3.5 (with WTP etc..), and then installed via download manager a number of other modules
[17:41:39] <Odin_> but they dont seem activated, for example... the icons don't appear in the "About Eclipse"
[17:42:00] <Odin_> I can see the plugins/features in $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/
[17:43:13] <Odin_> when I look at Help -> About Eclipse and in the "Configuration" tab, there are no features/plugins listed that were download
[17:43:23] <mindmedic> Odin_: are there any hints in the Problems tab?
[17:44:23] <Odin_> do you mean "Error Log", the "Problems" tab has project problems in it, checking error log now
[17:45:33] <Odin_> no nothing in "Error Log" since last bootup
[17:45:50] <Odin_> its just as-if its not looking at the directory  $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/ for plugins/features folders
[17:45:57] <mindmedic> mhh ... I got the same problem too, but there were messages in the log about missing dependencies
[17:46:16] <Odin_> but everything it listed in the "Installed Software" tab
[17:46:30] <Odin_> surely if there were missing deps they would not have installed !
[17:47:07] <Odin_> many of the modules should work right on top of WTP 3.5 release, i.e. there is no way they all have one or more missing deps, the issue is more that Eclipse is not activating them
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[17:51:06] <Odin_> maybe I need to link up in my home install /opt/eclipse/dropins => $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/
[17:51:15] <Odin_> but that seems stupidity
[17:51:43] <Odin_> i.e. Eclipse installs the features/plugins to a folder that it never looks at during a reboot to activate plugins
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[18:09:18] <Odin_> no even dropin's are not working
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[18:10:48] <Odin_> Okay, new question....
[18:11:10] <Odin_> how do I activate "Installed Software" so that when Eclipse starts up, its activated/running ?
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[18:11:48] <Odin_> The "Installed Software" tab is at Help -> About Eclipse -> Installaiton Details -> [Installed Software]
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[19:05:27] <rcjsuen> Odin_: are the stuff you installed not showing up there?
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[19:14:05] <Odin_> rcjsuen, thanks for your reply... all the stuff I installed IS showing up in "Installed Software" but none of it works (i.e. its not activated on bootup)
[19:14:29] <rcjsuen> I wouldn't expect stuff to be activated by default.
[19:14:39] <Odin_> fine so where is the "on" button ?
[19:14:46] <rcjsuen> Presumably when you start using the tool
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[19:15:10] <Odin_> but its it is not activated how does it contribute to the IDE to give me something to click on
[19:15:10] <rcjsuen> whatever that may be, open a view, open an editor of that file type
[19:15:35] <rcjsuen> that's a technical detail that would take a long time to explain properly
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[19:15:39] <Odin_> those things don't exist
[19:15:50] <rcjsuen> Then it wasn't installed properly possibly.
[19:16:00] <Odin_> so why does it show up in the "Installed Software" ?
[19:16:15] <Odin_> so why wasn't there some error during installation or in the Error Logs ?
[19:17:00] <Odin_> the Installed Software tab contains all the software I want to use... the Plugins/Features tab only contain the Eclipse3.5+WTP eclipse.org stuff
[19:17:24] <rcjsuen> The metadata probably knows about it but the underlying system doesn't. That might be it.
[19:17:35] <Odin_> I use the term "activation" in the user sense, that I want to use the installed software (not in the SDK sense)
[19:17:36] <rcjsuen> that is, it's been recorded to be installed but the system isn't picking it up
[19:17:49] <Odin_> yes now you are understanding
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[19:18:10] <Odin_> so the "on" button is ?
[19:18:52] <rcjsuen> That doesn't change the fact that there is no "on" button.
[19:19:05] <Odin_> yay for design by comittee
[19:21:09] <rcjsuen> Odin_: Does those plug-ins contribute views?
[19:21:22] <Odin_> they SHOULD do
[19:23:33] <Odin_> many of them should contribute a little icon in "About Eclipse", thats usualy the easiest way to know they are loaded/running/activate (whatever name you want call it) rather than just being "installed"
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[19:24:01] <rcjsuen> in cases like these, even if you turned them "on" through the OSGi console, it won't help
[19:24:51] <Odin_> what did I do wrong ?  I am on Linux, maybe thats what
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[19:28:08] <Odin_> is it likely oracle will can netbeans, so all/some of those engineers can sprinkle their dust on eclipse
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[19:32:38] <Odin_> even dropins directory is not working
[19:33:31] <Odin_> maybe it changed since 3.4 and 3.5
[19:34:01] <rcjsuen> dropins/ folder did not work for me when i tried it
[19:34:08] <rcjsuen> altho others have reported success
[19:34:22] <Odin_> ah thats get me thinking now....
[19:34:39] <Odin_> the eclipse install and the configuration folder / workspace are not on the SAME volume
[19:34:42] <camk> 3.4 and up uses P2 instead of the old install mechanism, so dropins typically doesn't work anymore
[19:35:33] <Odin_> some eclipse engingeers (comitters/contributors) think they can rename from anywhere to anywhere
[19:35:40] <camk> is your feature or plugin listed in Help > About Eclipse > Installation Details ?
[19:35:45] <Odin_> but the dropins empty folder exists in the 3.5 release
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[19:36:18] <Odin_> nope (please take a look at my previous comments, if you can't see/read them let me know and I'll repaste them)
[19:36:34] <Odin_> features/plugins TABs only list what came in the 3.5 release from eclipse.org
[19:36:50] <Odin_> "installed software" has everything I installed from update sites, but none of it works
[19:37:07] <Odin_> nothing I installed from update sites is listed in "features" or "plugins"
[19:37:23] <camk> hmm, that is strange
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[19:37:46] <camk> have you tried reinstalling from a clean install?
[19:37:52] <Odin_> sign
[19:37:54] <Odin_> *sigh
[19:38:00] <Odin_> how many time u want me to do that ?
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[19:38:35] <camk> what is it you're trying to install? maybe their p2 repository is bad
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[19:39:15] <Odin_> should I delete my configuration too... I started with a fresh install, from a file called eclipse-jee-galileo-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[19:39:48] <Odin_> I had no configuration before I started... $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/ did not exist
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[19:40:17] <Odin_> I added my update sites
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[19:40:32] <Odin_> from each update site in a different pass I installed what I wanted and restart eclipse each time
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[19:41:02] <Odin_> even if p2 is "bad" surely "-clean" MUST fix, or thats a BUG
[19:41:27] <camk> did you check if the new features worked after each restart?
[19:41:47] <Odin_> not really, but at no time did any extra icons appear in "About Eclipse" after any restart
[19:42:03] <camk> what extra features are you trying to install? are the update sites public?
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[19:43:51] <Odin_> let me think....  Eclipse AspectJ, SVN subversion, JBoss Tools, Spring IDE, Instantiations GuiBuilder, JavaFX, maybe a couple more
[19:44:06] <Odin_> yes all updates sites are public
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[19:45:19] <camk> so you added the site, then selected some features from it to install, clicked next about a billion times, accept on the licenses, then finish (yeah, the install ui is a pain)
[19:45:47] <Odin_> it was less painful than in pre3.3 :) but yes thats what I did
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[19:45:52] <Odin_> I then allowed it to RESTART
[19:46:39] <camk> if you want to drop down to the osgi layer and check what it has for installed and active bundles you can start eclipse with -console
[19:47:02] <Odin_> why don't they make a view/perspective for that
[19:47:46] <camk> it's a really low level thing that is built into Equinox so it can't use gui components
[19:47:48] <rcjsuen> i think it's possible from one of the views
[19:48:33] <camk> the about screens are the normal way to do that but sounds like you've got something weird going on there
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[19:49:08] <Odin_> that runs on stdin/stdout doesn't it ?
[19:49:27] <Odin_> I start it from GUI normally with stdout redirected to file just in case, so no I run it from shell
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[19:49:32] <camk> yeah -console is on stdin/stdout
[19:49:59] <Odin_> now I have "osgi>" prompt on stdin
[19:50:33] <Odin_> I've only used this before from examples/documentation so no idea how to use it for this purpose
[19:50:40] <camk> ss is short status
[19:51:36] <Odin_> 683 bundles I guess, none related to the software thats installed, all looks like Eclipse 3.5 JEE release stuff from  eclipse-jee-galileo-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[19:51:51] <camk> ss foo will show anything with foo in their name
[19:52:04] <camk> if you don't see your stuff then it's not installed
[19:52:05] <Odin_> I have 2000 line scrollback so can see the whole list ok
[19:52:40] <Odin_> how do I ask it where the bundle repositories are ?
[19:53:01] <Odin_> i.e. I expect it to come back with "file:///opt/eclipse/" as being one (this is the read-only, shared part of eclipse)
[19:53:11] <Odin_> as the executable I run is /opt/eclipse/eclipse
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[19:54:09] <Odin_> basically the issue is that the location $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/ is not being looked at by OSGi as a repository for bundles
[19:54:19] <Odin_> the same is true of /opt/eclipse/dropins/foobar.link
[19:54:47] <Odin_> the configuration is set to  $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/configuration and the installed software is in  $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/plugins/*
[19:56:09] <camk> in your Help >About > Install Details under Configuration tab there should be an eclipse.p2.data.area var
[19:56:22] <camk> should be something like @config.dir/../p2/
[19:56:44] <Odin_> eclipse.p2.data.area= at config dot dir/../p2/
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[19:57:53] <Odin_> and there is a $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/p2/ and this does containt stuff (but not plugins/features), which seems correct to me, since data.area is the workspace it can use to store runtime implementation detail stuff
[19:58:13] <camk> hmm... I don't see where config.dir is defined. but see if you can find a p2/org.eclipse.equinox.p2.engine/profileRegistry/SDKProfile.profile somewhere on your config
[19:58:53] <camk> ok, in that SDKProfile.profile dir should be a profile for each time you installed or uninstalled something, so the latest one is what it should be using now
[19:59:00] <Odin_> I am using "epp.package.jee.profile" in there, I also have "eclipse.p2.profile=epp.package.jee" set in the configuration
[19:59:11] <camk> that's all the p2 metadata about what's installed
[19:59:24] <Odin_> 11 files
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[20:01:04] <camk> also, just a thought... have you checked your error log view after installing something?
[20:02:08] <Odin_> I just installed instantiations an hour ago, and there is nothing in the log about any problem
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[20:02:30] <Odin_>     <property name='org.eclipse.equinox.p2.installFolder' value='/data/opt/eclipse'/>
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[20:02:51] <Odin_> I do see in the *.profile files, which I don't know what that is used for... it is the place where eclipse WTP is installed
[20:03:09] <Odin_> but it is not the place it can install the downloaded plugins
[20:03:39] <camk> no, it's just an xml file that P2 uses to track what's installed in your profile. if your stuff isn't in there, it's not installed on that profile
[20:03:54] <camk> I don't know if it's possible you might have installed into a different profile
[20:04:08] <Odin_> I can see <unit> items relation to some of my stuff
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[20:06:10] <camk> you said you had eclipse in /opt/something. Is the eclipse installation area writable by your user?
[20:06:10] <Odin_> well I guess I can bypass the baindamaged-ness by copying all the features/plugins from my $HOME directory over the top of the system-wide global copy of eclipse at /opt/eclipse
[20:06:17] <Odin_> nope its not
[20:06:22] <Odin_> nor do I want it to be
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[20:07:02] <Odin_> think of it like system-wide root owned files, the base eclipse system
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[20:07:35] <camk> hmm... yeah... I dunno. we fought with that for a while and decided to copy the base eclipse profile to userspace
[20:07:38] <Odin_> all my per-user stuff is installed (correctly) in the per-user configuration space which is  $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/
[20:07:39] <camk> so we have a launch script which copies from /opt/eclipse to something the user can write to and runs from there
[20:07:59] <camk> right, but P2 doesn't get along well with that mechanism
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[20:09:03] <Odin_> are all file copy/rename/delete/closes having their return codes checked ?
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[20:09:46] <Odin_> its a common java error to not check deleteFile() and renameTo() return values, which is the correct way to find if it failed, since exceptions are only thrown for some kinds of error, not the normal one
[20:09:48] <cr0mulent> is anyone running eclipse under snow leopard?
[20:10:44] <camk> Odin_: yeah, P2 is notorious for failing in odd ways without reporting sometimes. especially in 3.4.x. 3.5 should be much better though
[20:10:57] <Odin_> in the J2EE Server drivers there is a special implementation of rename and delete which will throw on any error
[20:11:21] <Odin_> it simply propagates the boolean error into an exception
[20:11:35] <Odin_> which is what most programmers are expecting after reading the Sun API docs
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[20:13:03] <Odin_> so a delete or a rename that files where the files exist and the directory source/target exists but for which the operating system returns a security related error (access denied) no exception is thrown by Sun API
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[20:13:44] <Odin_> so I should install my eclipse into my home directory then ? and every user of eclipse do the same ?
[20:15:19] <camk> I'll ask around if there's a different way, but that's what we found to work best :(
[20:15:55] <Odin_> have bugs been opened up for this issue /
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[20:19:37] <camk> so did any of your new installed plugins get written to ~/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/ somewhere?
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[20:49:12] <Odin_> camk, sri went for a drink, thanks for your help so far
[20:49:31] <Odin_> yes all of the plugins I installed were writted into the $HOME writable area (which is the correct place if you ask me)
[20:49:48] <Odin_> i.e. ~/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/plugins/* and  ~/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/features/*
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[20:56:07] <Odin_> is thre no way to use "dropins" for 3.5 now ?
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[21:01:55] <Odin_> I see there is a "p2/" and "configuration/" directory in the main eclipse archieve
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[21:26:43] <cr0mulent> since upgrading to snow leopard, when I try starting tomcat 6.0.18 via eclipse, tomcat will not search for war's in the webapps directory, however it works just fine via the command line, can someone suggest what I should be looking for so i can get tomcat working via eclipse again?
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[21:50:07] <RenatoSilva> My workspace encoding is cp1252, but when I create a Java project the .project XML encoding is declared as UTF-8!
[21:51:05] <RenatoSilva> When the project inherits default encoding, it simply does not declare any encoding right?
[21:51:36] <RenatoSilva> That is, if I don't find any encoding in my .project, that means that Eclipse is using default one, right?
[21:52:51] <RenatoSilva> Hum, it's stored in .settings when different
[21:53:40] <Odin_> camk, okay I deleted my configuration and the read-only installation, extracted new and run 1 updates sites... first for javafx which after restart was ok (new FX icon appears and feature/plugins listed)
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[21:54:46] <Odin_> camk, then I installed "Eclipse AJDT" after restart, JavaFX has now disappeared and there is no sign that AJDT is active (both show in Installed Software)
[21:55:00] <Odin_> camk, the /opt/eclipse/* tree is writable by me
[21:57:25] <Odin_> camk, now I'm going to try the same again, and this time make sure both Eclipse software, the configuration AND the workspare are all on the same drive/filesystem/partition, this will check for brain damaged file renames (trying to rename across volumes)
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[21:58:25] <camk> Odin_: maybe try with an eclipse in your home dir where it has never been installed before, move .eclipse out of the way first, and run on a new workspace just to be safe
[21:58:34] <Odin_> camk, FYI nothing has been written to the /opt/eclipse/* area, even though its writable
[22:00:16] <camk> yeah, it's all strange on your system. I'm thinking if you just start from as clean a config as possible, it might do something different
[22:00:43] <camk> but you shouldn't have to delete anything from the previous stuff, just move it out of the way, e.g. mv ~/.eclipse ~/.eclipse_broke
[22:01:28] <Odin_> yes I move out the way the $HOME/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0/  (which was created during the first install)
[22:01:47] <RenatoSilva> Does web.xml files need to always be UTF-8?
[22:02:10] <Odin_> I'm less inclined to believe "its something strange on my system" than simply "eclipse engineer short-sightedness"
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[22:03:09] <Odin_> RenatoSilva, I don't believe the servlet spec mandates the encoding for the file, its left upto the container about what is allowed in this regard
[22:04:04] <RenatoSilva> My workspace is cp1252 but web.xml files for new dynamic web projects are set to utf8
[22:04:05] <Odin_> RenatoSilva, what is the reason to use non ASCII (7bit) character ?  for documentation only ?  (i.e. NOT for configuration)
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[22:06:07] <Odin_> RenatoSilva, all Servlet spec fields in web.xml are in 7bit ascii (the element names), and most aspects of a web-server as character-encoding neutral, i.e. they work on 8bit binary data, which can be interpreted as UTF-8 if you so wish, but thats not a requirement
[22:07:06] <Odin_> RenatoSilva, for example, URLs are 8bit arbitrary labels (which can be interpreted as UTF-8 if you so wish)
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[22:08:31] <[twisti]> hi
[22:08:37] <[twisti]> my eclipse wont fold methods anymore
[22:08:43] <[twisti]> the little plus sign is gone
[22:08:48] <[twisti]> what did i do wrong ?
[22:08:58] <[twisti]> or rather, how do i turn it back on
[22:09:05] <Odin_> RenatoSilva, hence this only leaves room for documentation in web.xml i.e. <!-- FOOBAR --> to have a useful reason to be UNICODE instead of ASCII
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[22:09:30] <[twisti]> no plugins or anything
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[22:19:48] <Odin_> camk, the issue is repeatable, now I have eclipse/configuration/workspace all on same filesystem and still not working
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[22:20:01] <Odin_> camk, ticket time I guess
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[22:22:12] <Odin_> camk, I can't even "re-install"
[22:23:35] <Odin_> camk, going to try the Win32 version, bet that f**ker works fine
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[22:24:42] <glima> hi, there
[22:25:05] <camk> Odin_: weird. good luck. I gotta go
[22:25:08] <glima> does anyone know if there's an editing mode for emacs which matches eclipse's indentation style?
[22:25:23] <Odin_> camk, thanks for pointers anyhow
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[22:27:14] <Odin_> glima, I'm sure there is, since both eclipse and emacs are very configurable in this regard
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[22:28:44] <glima> Odin_: yeah, i'm googling for it. i kinda don't have the time to write the mode on my own now
[22:29:05] <glima> but no luck, yet
[22:30:25] <deSilva> ellemtel should be pretty similar
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[22:32:25] <glima> deSilva: thanks, i'll try it
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[22:37:37] <sub_> hello - I use galileo with EPP, but it crashes whenever there is an "autocomplete"-action (you know, when I type $_ and it suggests a list with $_POST ).... what can I do about this? :(
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[22:42:04] <rcjsuen> sub_: Check your ~logs
[22:42:04] <T-elos> Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. In Eclipse, try Help > About > Configuration Details > View Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[22:43:25] <sub_> basically says : An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:
[22:43:25] <sub_> #
[22:43:25] <sub_> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x91f2ac91, pid=6504, tid=3084974992
[22:43:31] <sub_> nothing of practical value to me :(
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[22:43:47] <rcjsuen> in your workspace's log file?
[22:43:57] <sub_> yes
[22:44:26] <rcjsuen> That's hard to believe, that stuff should not be written ot the log file.
[22:44:39] <rcjsuen> or i should say, that should be written to the JVM log
[22:44:43] <sub_> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.6.0_03-b05 mixed mode)
[22:44:43] <sub_> # Problematic frame:
[22:44:43] <sub_> # C  [libwidget_gtk2.so+0x1ec91]
[22:45:11] <sub_> the file is called hs_err_pid6504.log
[22:45:30] <sub_> what is just wrong nowadays .. not even a -text editor- works
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[22:46:40] <sub_> can anyone make a suggestion what to do in such a case?
[22:46:43] <rcjsuen> the workspace's log file is not called hs_err_pid*
[22:47:07] <rcjsuen> I've never heard of a libwidget_gtk2
[22:47:24] <rcjsuen> hoso you downloaded a tarball, and just untarred it?
[22:47:33] <sub_> thats right
[22:47:48] <purestrain> hi; i've started using eclipse but i'm missing "intellisense" while typing instead of after dots and ctrl-space; is there anything i can do?
[22:48:20] <rcjsuen> purestrain: what language are you talking about
[22:48:30] <purestrain> maybe some plugins which provide proposals of variables while typing? java
[22:48:44] <rcjsuen> sub_: what distro are you on
[22:48:49] <rcjsuen> purestrain: did you try a new worksapce?
[22:48:52] <sub_> rcjsuen, gentoo
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[22:49:05] <rcjsuen> sub_: I don't have that problem and I run Gentoo at home.
[22:50:01] <purestrain> rcjsuen, i did, but it hadn't helped.... as before, just after dot or pressing ctrl-space
[22:50:02] <sub_> wow - with a new workspace it doesnt start at all
[22:50:25] <rcjsuen> sub_: does the splash screen come up?
[22:50:29] <rcjsuen> sub_: what gtk+ version are you on
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[22:51:25] <rcjsuen> ~tell purestrain about completion
[22:51:25] <T-elos> purestrain: Java autocompletion not working when you press Ctrl-Space? Try the following: open Window->Preferences (for Mac users: Eclipse->Preferences). Then navigate to Java -> Editor -> Content Assist -> Advanced. Ensure that all the entries in the uppermost list are checked. Click okay and check whether autocompletion is working now.
[22:51:46] <purestrain> rcjsuen, it _is_ working after ctrl+space
[22:52:01] <rcjsuen> purestrain: you mean dot doesn't work but ctrl+space does?
[22:52:08] <sub_> okay on a completely new workspace the error still appears...how do I find out gtk+ version?
[22:52:24] <rcjsuen> sub_: How long have you  been using Gentoo? :o
[22:52:41] <sub_> longer than gtk ;)
[22:53:01] <purestrain> rcjsuen, sorry; i think i'm not using the right terms.... it works after dots and after ctrl+space, but i would like to have proposals even after the first letter of a variable
[22:53:03] <rcjsuen> seems you are not familiar with emerge then
[22:53:25] <rcjsuen> sub_: >>> emerge -pv gtk+ >>> will tell you current version and what emerge will upgrade/downgrade/install
[22:53:41] <rcjsuen> purestrain: Sorry, I totally misread your original question.
[22:53:44] <rcjsuen> purestrain: See FAQ in topic then.
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[22:54:03] <sub_> I have:  gtk-engines: 2.8.2-r1 wxGTK 2.6.4.0-r1, gtk+ 2.14.7-r2
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[22:54:36] <rcjsuen> i run the same gtk+ version at home and don't have any problems
[22:55:18] <sub_> libwidget_gtk2 belongs to gtk+ for sure?
[22:55:47] <rcjsuen> Think it might be from Mozilla.
[22:56:19] <purestrain> rcjsuen, ok, thanks; found the point "... like visual studio" ;-)
[22:57:18] <rcjsuen> purestrain: you can add every character you can think of in autoactivation if you wish
[22:57:53] <purestrain> but it would mostly make sense after 2 or more characters
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[22:58:29] <ScottG> I am running Eclipse on Gentoo. I seem to have all of the c++ tools installed but I don't see them anywhere in the interface (can't make c++ project, etc). Could someone help me out?
[22:58:58] <purestrain> rcjsuen, thanks again; now i feel much more comfortable
[22:59:14] <sub_> what the ...? It suddenly appears to work? I have not changed anything?!
[22:59:21] <rcjsuen> purestrain: whatever works for you
[22:59:33] <sub_> how on earth is that possible
[23:00:14] <sub_> ah no
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[23:00:17] <sub_> crashes again
[23:00:19] <sub_> :(
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[23:22:54] <l0nix> hi, all
[23:24:56] <l0nix> i have fedora eclipse, and i use it for python devel (pydev) and php devel (phpeclipse) but how to get eclipse plugins for Java Enterprise (JSP, Servlet, etc ..) devel
[23:26:04] <nitind> l0nix: You can try adding WTP to it manually, but I have no experience in doing so myself.
[23:28:26] <l0nix> i have seen in the eclipse download page, a separate eclipse distro for each language, but how to get then all (just like Netbeans do)
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[23:31:53] <l0nix> thank <nitind>, i have googled "eclipse wtp", i think that is the right tool
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[23:46:58] <rcjsuen> sub_: I don't have a libwidget_gtk so file myself.
[23:47:28] <sub_> that's interesting
[23:48:03] <sub_> I'll try a clean galileo setup now
[23:49:35] <sub_> but first I'll get some sleep. thanks for the help rcjsuen
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[23:52:06] <ezeki3l> what's the fix for when eclipse complains that it Couldn't find the Main class in a project
[23:52:13] <ezeki3l> when everything worked fine a minute ago
[23:52:18] <ezeki3l> ?
[23:53:50] <rcjsuen> make a new project, make a hello world, try again
[23:54:40] <ezeki3l> hello world works just fine
[23:54:54] <ezeki3l> is it a bug?
[23:55:09] <rcjsuen> ezeki3l: okay, try hello world in your original project then
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[23:56:12] <ezeki3l> w00t
[23:56:14] <ezeki3l> it works now
[23:56:21] <ezeki3l> wtf is going on tho?
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