[00:03:20] <kaje> rcjsuen: The plugin is listed in the about section
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[00:04:17] <rcjsuen> kaje: is the plug-in supposed to contribute wizards or something? or just editors
[00:04:19] <kaje> Nevermind, I just found it
[00:04:30] <rcjsuen> lol ok
[00:04:31] <rcjsuen> :)
[00:04:35] <kaje> It was under New->Examples->Shapes Example
[00:04:40] <kaje> Thanks for the nudging =)
[00:04:41] <rcjsuen> as long as the problem is solved
[00:04:43] <rcjsuen> everyone's happy :D
[00:04:44] * wdw just realized that he can drag panels right out of eclipse and onto his second monitor
[00:05:00] <wdw> apparently that 'getting started' thing may have had some useful info after all
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[00:55:24] <nebiros> hi, somebody knows a site with editor syntax coloring that I can download ?
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[00:55:45] <rcjsuen> Never heard of such a thing myself.
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[00:57:21] <nebiros> :S I just want netbeans editor colors on eclipse :)
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[02:03:49] <phpwner> how do i change the caret color?
[02:04:15] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure if you can.
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[02:04:46] <phpwner> well at work its a light color on top of my black background
[02:04:52] <phpwner> i imported those preferences to home
[02:04:57] <phpwner> and the caret is black
[02:05:07] <phpwner> cant see why my mouse or position is
[02:05:13] <phpwner> where*
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[02:07:16] <phpwner> IDE fail
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[02:09:49] <rcjsuen> phpwner: Try turning off the custom caret.
[02:10:10] <phpwner> did
[02:11:05] <WillPittenger> rcjsuen: I managed to get most of the extensions working by installing Aptana's build, but MercurialEclipse requires 3.4 and Aptana used 3.2.  Aptana does add SVN support, but I can't find the UI.
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[02:12:10] <rcjsuen> WillPittenger: Check your views or perspectives then.
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[02:14:47] <WillPittenger> There is a Team Synchronizing perspective, but while it adds a "Task Repositories" pane, the Add Repository button only knows Trac, which is my bug track, but not version control.
[02:15:12] <WillPittenger> That dialog has a "Add connector" button, but I don't know how to use that.
[02:15:16] <wdw> task repos is not SVN repos.. task repos is from mylyn
[02:15:52] <WillPittenger> Found another pane.
[02:16:26] <wdw> if you're on windows, alt+shift+q,q will bring up all available views you can pick from, and then you can just expand SVN and open the proper view, which in this case is 'svn repositories'
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[02:17:04] <rcjsuen> or use Ctrl+3
[02:17:19] <cmartin0> the help winow keeps locking and cannot be closed. 3.5 on linux
[02:17:33] <cmartin0> o
[02:17:35] <cmartin0> nvm focus
[02:17:38] <wdw> well damn.. thats a lot easier
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[02:19:29] <WillPittenger> Do you think the SVN support in that view needs the command line SVN?
[02:19:43] <wdw> needs it? no
[02:20:10] <wdw> I'd really like to work with databases (mysql), and I know the DTP tools are what I need, but when I go help->install new software, and pick DTP 1.6 , it comes back 'cannot complete the request, generating details' but never actually generates details.
[02:20:18] <wdw> its kinda bothersome
[02:20:22] <WillPittenger> I gave it the URL that Source Forge provides and it errorred out.
[02:21:37] <WillPittenger> BTW: All tooltips keep appearing under my mouse.  I am unable to move the mouse pointer out of the way without the tip disappearing.
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[02:29:51] <rcjsuen> wdw: What do you mean anyway? Do you get past the license screen?
[02:30:05] <wdw> nah, it doesn't even get to the license screen
[02:30:37] <rcjsuen> wdw: worksforme
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[02:30:51] <wdw> yeah i'm sure its local
[02:31:02] <rcjsuen> o ok
[02:31:05] <wdw> without an error report, its just tricky to troubleshoot
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[02:31:42] <wdw> it never gets to the error report step.. just pauses at 'generating error report' and doesn't move on (i've given it 30 minutes now)
[02:32:14] <rcjsuen> maybe you have a deadlock
[02:32:29] <rcjsuen> I don't think it's stuck on contacting the server as there should be a 120 second timeout specified (I think).
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[02:48:53] <WillPittenger> So how do I add files to my SVN repository?
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[02:57:54] <rcjsuen> Not sure I understand what you're asking here. To add files to Subversion you commit them to the repository.
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[03:19:06] <Linux-IRC> How to compile and debug .java file in emacs?
[03:20:25] <rcjsuen> Linux-IRC: I think you're asking in the wrong channel.
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[03:22:53] <Linux-IRC> rcjsuen: Isn't it possible to debug .java file in Emacs?Debugging only the .c/.cpp files?
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[03:24:00] <rcjsuen> Linux-IRC: I'm not sure since I use Eclipse tools (this channel is #eclipse, by the way). I don't use Emacs myself.
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[03:25:03] <Linux-IRC> rcjsuen: Sorry
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[03:25:31] <WillPittenger> rcjsuen: I don't see any SVN command options anywhere.  I am in the Team Synchronizing perspective and checked both the Project and SVN Repository views.  I also looked at the Synchronize view.
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[03:26:36] <wdw> WillPittenger: do you have a project which contains a checked out subversion repo (ie: a 'working copy')?
[03:27:33] <WillPittenger> When I looked at checking it out, it wanted to erase my existing project.  The server's copy is empty.  It is the local copy that I want to keep.
[03:28:08] <wdw> okay, it sounds like you first need to "import" your stuff into SVN.
[03:28:18] <bthornton> I'm working on an application that basically has a backend/API and a frontend/GUI. The vast majority of the codebase is in the backend and that's being done in Eclipse, but I'd like to use Netbeans for the GUI because it has a good form designer. Does anybody have any experience with this kind of dev setup? Or am I asking for trouble?
[03:30:50] <wdw> WillPittenger: can you simply remove the trunk directory from your repo, if its empty?
[03:31:21] <WillPittenger> I don't see anything in there.
[03:31:47] <WillPittenger> http://localfolder.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/localfolder/ looks empty to me.
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[03:33:10] <wdw> okay.. go team -> share project, give it a URL to check in to of something like /branches/firstimport or something.. that will get your files into SVN. Then, you can easily merge those files into your trunk, as all the eclipse SVN tools will come to life
[03:33:14] <rcjsuen> bthornton: as long as your code is modular and you split things into separate jars/whatever properly so your netbeans dev can do whatever and your eclipse devs can do whatever I don't really see a problem.
[03:33:56] <WillPittenger> wdw: Is Team supposed to be a top-level menu?  I don't see it.
[03:34:07] <WillPittenger> Found it.
[03:34:15] <wdw> no, sorry.. right click on your project folder, then its a 'team' menu off that
[03:34:28] <WillPittenger> That is where I saw it.
[03:34:35] <wdw> great
[03:35:57] <bthornton> rcjsuen: Yeah, that's the plan; all Swing/GUI code is going in its own package which will only be modified in Netbeans. I guess my main concern is that I'll need to have both a Netbeans project and an Eclipse project; each project will need access to 100% of the codebase and I don't want to have duplication of source...
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[03:37:10] <rcjsuen> bthornton: wouldn't your eclipse guys just pump out jars and your netbeans guys consume them?
[03:37:28] <rcjsuen> or just let the netbeans guys checkout the eclipse projects with proper classpaths configured
[03:38:55] <bthornton> rcjsuen: I'll probably end up having to do the latter. Currently, the Netbeans GUI part doesn't exist and the backend is in progress. The frontend obviously depends on the backend but the converse is not true.
[03:39:06] <WillPittenger> And I did get it checked in.
[03:39:14] <wdw> WillPittenger: so, you've imported your project now into a url other than /trunk, right?
[03:39:16] <wdw> awesome
[03:39:24] <wdw> okay, so now, all the team stuff should be lit up, right?
[03:39:46] <WillPittenger> Correct.  Will files be read only when they aren't checked out?
[03:40:14] <bthornton> out of curiosity, would you happen to know if the Eclipse devs will be able to run Netbeans-created GUI forms? Obviously they won't have the form designer to make any changes, but in theory everythign else should work because it's just Swing.
[03:40:21] <wdw> WillPittenger:  not by default, thats not how SVN works
[03:40:54] <wdw> WillPittenger: so just to check, if you go into team sync, and now syncronize, you should be seeing files waiting to check in, right?
[03:41:25] <wdw> WillPittenger: (I don't see any files in your public repo yet, so you haven't actually sent the files to the repository yet, and I want to be sure you understand this)
[03:41:26] <rcjsuen> bthornton: I dunno how Matisse works (whether it gens all the code or if there are special files to read or not).
[03:41:33] <WillPittenger> I see files and folders.  They aren't on the server yet?
[03:41:49] <bthornton> rcjsuen: looks like I'll have to find out :)  thanks for the input tho
[03:41:57] <rcjsuen> bthornton: MyEclipse has Matisse as a plug-in for Eclipse I believe. If you are interested in purchasing/trying it out.
[03:42:09] <wdw> WillPittenger: No.. you see the files & folders in the 'syncronization' area most likely.. now they are available to syncronize, but you must still 'send' them to the server (aka committing)
[03:42:25] <wdw> WillPittenger: just right-click on the topmost folder in the 'syncronize' panel, and click 'commit'
[03:42:47] <rcjsuen> just to be clear I don't work for MyEclipse nor have I ever used it ;p
[03:42:51] <WillPittenger> It's doing that now.
[03:43:10] <wdw> WillPittenger: you'll be prompted for a commit msg and whatnot.. click okay, and the files will be committed. They will then disappear from the syncronization view, because they don't need to be syncronized anymore. If you change any file, it will reappear becuse it will then need syncornization again
[03:43:32] <wdw> whatever syncornization is.. sorry, its late
[03:48:30] <WillPittenger> org.tigris.subversion.javahl.ClientException: A repository hook failed
[03:48:33] <WillPittenger> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
[03:48:34] <WillPittenger> svn: Commit blocked by pre-commit hook (exit code 1) with output:
[03:48:36] <WillPittenger> /var/local/mastertree/host/sfp-svn/hook-scripts/check-mime-type.pl: `/usr/bin/svnlook proplist /nfs/sf-svn-symlinks/localfolder -t 1-1 --verbose Web/Screen Shots/Vista Windows Explorer has its pluses?\226?\128?\148and minuses?\226?\128?\148in this job.png' failed with this output:
[03:48:37] <WillPittenger> svnlook: Path 'Web/Screen Shots/Vista Windows Explorer has its pluses?\226?\128?\148and minuses?\226?\128?\148in this job.png' does not exist
[03:49:22] <WillPittenger> Does SVN have problems with filenames that have a "—" in them?
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[04:55:10] <WillPittenger> Well, even renaming that file so the — isn't part of the filename and disabling hooks prevents me from committing my new files.
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[05:49:26] <Terminus> hello. i'm trying to debug a bin and an so. if i set a breakpoint in the bin's source, it works fine. if i set a breakpoint in the so, i get "Breakpoint attribute problem: installation failed." can anybody tell me how to fix this?
[05:49:52] <Terminus> it's a c++ program.
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[05:50:51] <Terminus> i have two projects, one for the bin and one for the so, with the bin depending on the so project.
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[09:01:22] <elad`> I can compile a C++ program from within Eclipse, but it wouldn't run. Help?
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[10:45:16] <bgy> hi
[10:45:51] <bgy> How to generate the $id$ of a file ?  ($Id: File.php rev 2009-07-22 18:05:45Z myname $
[10:45:53] <bgy> )
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[10:48:09] <amitev> bgy: look for code templates in the preferences dialog
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[10:55:56] <b0c1> re
[10:56:05] <b0c1> how can I uninstall a plugin in eclipse 3.5?
[10:56:22] <b0c1> (it's not seen in installed softwares list, only the plugin list)
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[10:56:40] <dwarder> how can i enable code collapsing?
[10:57:15] <b0c1> folding?
[10:57:29] <dwarder> yes i guess
[10:57:35] <dwarder> b0c1: yes
[10:57:45] <b0c1> preferences -> java->editor->folding
[10:57:47] <b0c1> maybe
[10:57:52] <b0c1> for java lang...
[10:57:57] <dwarder> php
[10:58:09] <b0c1> maybe in php editor properties
[10:58:19] <b0c1> plugin dependent...
[10:58:26] <b0c1> in pdt
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[10:58:39] <dwarder> b0c1: thank you
[10:58:41] <b0c1> preferences->php->editor->code folding
[10:59:54] <b0c1> who invented the new sh*t plugin manager?
[11:01:28] <b0c1> I think that person never uninstall plugins, he (or she)  always reinstall whole eclipse...
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[11:03:17] <b0c1> eclipse go one step forward and two step back..
[11:04:56] <dwarder> b0c1: i enabled forlding but i can't see + signs on the left of if statement of funtion
[11:05:04] <dwarder> of=or
[11:05:18] <b0c1> you using pdt?
[11:05:36] <dwarder> b0c1: zend studio for eclipse
[11:05:38] <dwarder> 6
[11:05:38] <b0c1> oo
[11:05:42] <b0c1> I never used....
[11:05:45] <b0c1> maybe
[11:06:01] <b0c1> restart eclipse...
[11:06:17] <b0c1> or right click the php and open with -> php editor
[11:06:27] <b0c1> (I using pdt not zendstudio)
[11:06:44] <b0c1> and I have small +/- sings
[11:07:38] <dwarder> tried restarting, using php editor, when i enable folding i only see added extra space for this +/- but not this +/- sinhs
[11:07:41] <dwarder> signs
[11:08:26] <b0c1> interesting...
[11:08:47] <b0c1> right click on the row number bar
[11:08:49] <b0c1> folding
[11:08:55] <b0c1> enable folding
[11:09:07] <b0c1> maybe...
[11:09:17] <b0c1> if not work I dunno
[11:09:46] <dwarder> b0c1: yes when i do this "right click on the row number bar" i  see that extra space were added
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[11:10:16] <b0c1> dwarder: gimme a screenshot
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[11:14:33] <Sarek> hi
[11:19:09] <Sarek> can you give me some advice for further reading? I plan to make my frist setps with rcp / rap ... To be more precise I want to develop an application that can run as rcp in standalone and / or as web application as rap. What I am looking for is good introductory literature for learning rcp / rap (including osgi)
[11:21:55] <Sarek> if possible as real book  or somthing equivalent ... not as pure website bookmarks
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[11:23:44] <dwarder> b0c1: 1 sec
[11:24:31] <dwarder> b0c1: well it works for functions now
[11:24:44] <dwarder> b0c1: will it work for if while etc?
[11:25:26] <b0c1> no
[11:25:34] <b0c1> only for classes/functions and phpdoc
[11:25:47] <dwarder> b0c1: thank you
[11:26:04] <b0c1> :)
[11:26:49] <b0c1> great, in uninstalled, deleted the plugins and features...
[11:27:11] <b0c1> but why we have a plugin manager in eclipse, if it's work only by hand?
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[11:33:32] <b0c1> I going to angry....
[11:36:57] <b0c1> I wanna kick an eclipse plugin manager developer ass
[11:37:09] <b0c1> idiot lamas
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[11:57:36] <roel-> boohoo: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36436
[11:57:51] <roel-> 6 and a half years later.. no progress?
[11:58:18] <erdal> b0c1: do not kick anyone's ass: just do it better and contribute your changes ;-)
[11:58:47] <b0c1> erdal: not needed to contribute better
[11:58:55] <b0c1> only go back to 3.4 plugin manager
[11:59:17] <erdal> you mean using classic update manager?
[11:59:38] <b0c1> in 3.5 , about->installed softwares
[11:59:53] <erdal> this is p2 installer
[12:00:01] <b0c1> great
[12:00:06] <b0c1> and how can I uninstall plugins
[12:00:13] <b0c1> this is my simple question
[12:00:21] <b0c1> I installed forexample a tinyHtml plugin
[12:00:23] <erdal> when ps installer works fine ;-)
[12:00:24] <b0c1> how can I uninstall
[12:00:46] <erdal> maybe, in 3.6 or 4.0
[12:00:58] <b0c1> whoa
[12:01:06] <b0c1> two step back..
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[12:02:49] <epic> why does eclipse maven plugin say "/4/09 10:19:35 AM CEST: Unable to load remote repositories" ?
[12:03:13] <b0c1> maybe it's can't connect to the remote repo
[12:03:26] <epic> hehe indeed
[12:03:41] <b0c1> :)
[12:03:55] <epic> but why? it seems my terminal maven and eclipse maven live in two different worlds
[12:04:15] <b0c1> m2eclipse ?
[12:04:17] <epic> i have even tried to point m2eclipse to a maven installation i downloaded, same result
[12:04:19] <epic> yeah
[12:04:26] <b0c1> in m2eclipse
[12:04:31] <b0c1> you can use your console maven too
[12:04:56] <epic> how?
[12:05:45] <b0c1> in preferences -> maven -> installations
[12:05:57] <epic> ah thats what i did
[12:06:06] <epic> still no go, trying "offline" now
[12:06:44] <b0c1> ok but you set the global settings?
[12:06:51] <b0c1> to the console maven settings
[12:07:17] <epic> seems i cant change that field
[12:07:20] <epic> weird
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[12:08:07] <b0c1> epic: so in you console
[12:08:08] <patkoscsaba> hi all
[12:08:11] <b0c1> maven work correctily
[12:08:26] <b0c1> ?
[12:08:55] <patkoscsaba> I just installed Eclipse from Mandriva ... on Mandriva Linux 2009.1 (it is Eclipse 3.4.2 CollabNet-Mandriva edition)
[12:09:10] <patkoscsaba> when I try to instal CDT ... I have this error:
[12:09:13] <patkoscsaba> An error occurred while unconfiguring the items to uninstall
[12:09:13] <patkoscsaba>   The artifact file for org.eclipse.equinox.launcher/osgi.bundle/1.0.100.v20080509-1800 was not found.
[12:09:20] <epic> yeah
[12:09:25] <patkoscsaba> I am very new to Eclipse ... so be patient with me
[12:09:27] <epic> but let me check 1 thing
[12:09:33] <b0c1> kk
[12:09:45] <b0c1> patkoscsaba: I never installed eclipse from package
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[12:10:22] <epic> i downloaded and installed a maven on my user(not in my PATH) to get it into eclipse, as /opt/ was not available in eclipse browse file dialog
[12:10:27] <epic> but made a symlink now
[12:10:34] <patkoscsaba> b0c1: I learned that almost all software is best to install from package, since it is more tested for that specific system ...
[12:10:55] <Siman> Hi. Can you get monkey eclipse in fedora-eclipse?
[12:11:08] <b0c1> patkoscsaba: I not aggree
[12:11:20] <patkoscsaba> b0c1: anyway, I need to configure this for CDT+QT+CUDA programming
[12:11:20] <b0c1> patkoscsaba: usually the package install is better
[12:11:34] <b0c1> but not for eclipse :)
[12:11:58] <patkoscsaba> b0c1: as I am new to Eclipse, I will believe you ...
[12:12:19] <epic> b0c1: still no go, global settings seems so be auto-set to: /opt/local/share/java/maven2/conf/settings.xml but my "user settings" is correctly set to my /Users/<myuser>/.m2/settings.xml
[12:13:23] <patkoscsaba> b0c1: so, what approach would you recommend, for e newbe in Eclipse but a veteran in computer science, to set up a CDT+QT+CUDA Eclipse Environment ... on Linux, obviously
[12:14:07] <patkoscsaba> b0c1: any tutorial is welcomed, I already did extensive research with google, but I found only CDT+CUDA or QT+CDT configuration tutorials
[12:14:30] <b0c1> patkoscsaba: I'm never want to coding C/C++ in eclipse
[12:14:32] <b0c1> but
[12:14:33] <b0c1> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
[12:14:50] <b0c1> you can download a CDT preinstalled eclipse
[12:16:09] <epic> b0c1: m2eclipse with debug enabled gives; http://pastebin.ca/1553669
[12:16:55] <b0c1> whoa
[12:17:00] <Siman> anyone? fedora-eclipse with eclipse monkey?
[12:17:03] <b0c1> I never seen error like this...
[12:18:13] <epic> :/
[12:19:02] <b0c1> epic: maybe in m2eclipse or maven channel
[12:19:23] <b0c1> (on irc.codehaus.org server)
[12:21:20] <Siman> ANYONE?
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[12:22:01] <Siman> can youall even see this?
[12:22:30] <b0c1> nope
[12:25:30] <Siman> who me?
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[12:44:06] <epic> b0c1: new eclipse install worked ..
[12:44:13] <dwarder> i select text and press tab to indent it, how can i indent it back?
[12:44:17] <epic> its all magic to me, same plugins installed
[12:44:27] <b0c1> interesting
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[13:24:01] <rcjsuen> b0c1: If it's not listed in 'Installed Software' then you need to delete by hand I guess.
[13:24:14] <rcjsuen>  you could also try reverting your config i suppose
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[13:25:15] <rcjsuen> dwarder: Isn't that what Ctrl+Z or Shift+Tab is for?
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[13:31:45] <dwarder> rcjsuen: shift+tab is okay thanks
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[13:38:43] <dwarder> when i click on function name with ctrl, i go over that function, can i return back somehow?
[13:39:11] <muts> how can I get rid of the asterisk in the editor title when I do undo or when the content is equal to the saved content?
[13:39:55] <rcjsuen> dwarder: Alt+Left I guess.
[13:40:31] <rcjsuen> muts: If you undo "to the end", the asterisk should disappear. At least, I am assuming you are talking about text editors.
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[13:41:42] <muts> yes
[13:41:50] <muts> it happens in the java editor, but not in my own editor
[13:44:06] <muts> do I need to override a specific method?
[13:44:17] <rcjsuen> Not that I know of.
[13:45:36] <muts> do you know which code adds/removes the *?
[13:45:44] <muts> I can't find it in the code
[13:46:30] <rcjsuen> It's really deep in the code.
[13:47:08] <muts> I bet :) but where?
[13:47:59] <rcjsuen> check for when workbench parts fire properties
[13:48:03] <rcjsuen> dirty state is a property
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[13:58:43] <erdal> anyone knows where to find that CamelCase to readable string code in pde?
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[13:59:31] <erdal> id "com.example.myProject" becomes name "MyProject" when starting new project wizard
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[14:03:25] <rcjsuen> didn't even know it did that
[14:03:36] <rcjsuen> if it's in the wizard, just use pde spy and check the code in thre
[14:05:11] <elyezer> when creating a directory selection dialog I need a shell as parent, can I crete another shell from a view part? Or there is another class to do that?
[14:05:32] <erdal> rcjsuen: good hint
[14:05:32] <rcjsuen> every Control has a Shell
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[14:06:32] <elyezer> but if I create a control inside my view part the directory dialog will appear inside it? or in a new window?
[14:06:47] <rcjsuen> Try it and see.
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[14:25:22] <muts> rcjsuen: thx, I did already override isDirty, but I guess I just needed to fire PROP_DIRTY when the document changes also
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[16:10:24] <kracker> Hello I was trying to update my ubuntu installed copy of eclipse and find I am unable to do so
[16:10:37] <kracker> I am getting this related error http://forums.zend.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=2253
[16:10:57] <kracker> I wonder if any one might be able to point out what i'm doing wrong
[16:11:16] <rcjsuen> kracker: You got Eclipse from Synaptic/Apt/whatever and am trying to update it?
[16:11:20] <kracker> or what i could try to get around the error being experianced
[16:11:25] <kracker> Yeah
[16:11:37] <kracker> I that discouraged rcjsuen
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[16:11:45] <kracker> errum, s/I/Is/g
[16:12:23] <rcjsuen> kracker: Help > About, what version?
[16:12:49] <kracker> Build id: M20070212-1330 (Ubuntu version: 3.2.2-5ubuntu3
[16:13:08] <rcjsuen> kracker: That's 3 years old. Even if you found a valid bug the Eclipse developers do not support that release anymore.
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[16:14:10] <kracker> I mearly installed what was available from my synaptic/apt. I'll download a new separate copy instead.
[16:15:28] <rcjsuen> kracker: No surprise. We get someone like you come in here probably once a day.
[16:16:42] <kracker> This always bothers me; why can a project and a distro not deliver users the latest version :\ it seems just -sad- in this age we still run into problems really delivering the best possible version to users (guess it depends on where you stand...)
[16:16:51] <kracker> s/can/can not/g
[16:17:38] <rcjsuen> kracker: it is not trivial to package Eclipse, I see where they're coming from.
[16:17:49] <rcjsuen> And if no one wants to put the time into it, then hey, not much you can do about it.
[16:18:01] <kracker> nods, seems somethings never change. oh well
[16:18:36] <kracker> i love apt, but all too often so many projects just have -non-functional- stubs (i call them ad stub packages) promote the project product but not maintained or usable.
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[16:18:51] <rcjsuen> There are some Debian/Ubuntu volunteers trying to tackle to package newer versions now. You could lend them a hand if you wish.
[16:20:53] <b0c1> rcjsuen: yes, delete by hand, and remove from 10 xml file
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[16:21:18] <kracker> i wish i thought that my limited experience could help, but i'm just not certain, i like that their is an effort among the regulars honestly, i'd rather throw down 500 USD to help fund the efforts regularly rather than even possibly become a dependency (respectfully)
[16:21:23] <rcjsuen> b0c1: How did you install them to begin with anyway?
[16:21:31] <b0c1> (without this eclipse detected as installed if you want to reinstall)
[16:21:55] <b0c1> rcjsuen: how? umm... Help->New Install software.....
[16:22:03] <rcjsuen> o ok
[16:22:11] <rcjsuen> If it's not listed in the installed software then it sounds like a bug.
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[16:22:18] <b0c1> yeah maybe...
[16:22:34] <rcjsuen> Since if p2 installed it then...p2 should know about it.
[16:22:39] <b0c1> no problem i created a backup before install...
[16:22:47] <hrad> is it possible to step back to previous stackframe in eclipse debugger after coming accross an exception or error ?
[16:23:04] * b0c1 work
[16:23:14] <b0c1> rcjsuen: thnx
[16:23:30] <hrad> if I click "drop To Frame" it returns me back to that stackframe, but after next step it exists
[16:23:36] <rcjsuen> with an exception, I don't think so
[16:24:00] <hrad> rcjsuen: so it is neccessary to run it again
[16:24:15] <rcjsuen> to my knowledge anyway
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[16:24:41] <hrad> shi*t, I have so many huge DB selects that it takes 5 minutes to get to the problematic point
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[18:21:10] <EugenMayer> irc?
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[18:22:28] <EugenMayer> !irc
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[18:22:44] <rcjsuen> EugenMayer: ?
[18:22:56] <EugenMayer> rcjsuen: was looking for a list of eclipse channels
[18:23:08] <EugenMayer> because i thought there might be a CDT channel
[18:23:14] <rcjsuen> no there isn't
[18:23:22] <rcjsuen> ask here or the CDT forums (i suggest the latter)
[18:23:49] <ValentinMa> hi, have any experience with wmake
[18:24:38] <ValentinMa> I would like use eclipse for OpenFoam
[18:26:20] <ValentinMa> I change the build command from make to wmake
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[18:45:00] <gverig> is there a way to set project-wide java properties (basically, so taht all 'run configurations' have this attribute, e.g. -Djava.libarary.path)?
[18:45:59] <rcjsuen> No.
[18:46:18] <rcjsuen> you can set it in your installed jres pref page if you want i suppose
[18:50:11] <gverig> rcjsuen: hmm, thanks, this works- I shold be able to add a separate JRE definition for the project with whatever properties needed.
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[18:56:17] <NoobFukaure> is there any kind of base console/terminal plugin you can use if you need to write a console plugin of some kind?
[18:57:57] <rcjsuen> Not from the platform itself anyway assuming we're talking about the same thing.
[18:59:19] <NoobFukaure> ok, there's just a few "terminalish" views I've seen and I didn't want to start at a text widget if there was something more suitable
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[19:22:24] <Cluber> http://pastebin.com/d2fe1e86 - Can anyone help me with this error
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[19:22:55] <Cluber> I've basically just imported my application and tried to run it in eclipse, first time of using the program
[19:23:11] <Cluber> i don't even know what this org.eclipse.ui is
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[19:23:52] <rcjsuen> Cluber: We fixed that bug a few weeks ago.
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[19:28:49] <Cluber> rcjsuen: what bug?
[19:28:55] <Cluber> I've just downloaded now
[19:29:12] <rcjsuen> the bug that causes that error
[19:29:18] <Cluber> how do i fix it?
[19:29:32] <Cluber> or can't I until the next version is released
[19:29:43] <rcjsuen> you could get one of the 3.5.1 RC builds i suppose
[19:29:52] <Cluber> is there a workaround
[19:30:06] <Cluber> I have literaly had the program 10 minutes
[19:30:14] <Cluber> and i come across a bug lol
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[19:31:10] <rcjsuen> You can read up on ~209333 and ~281623 if you wish.
[19:31:11] <T-elos> Bug 209333 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=209333 - Platform / UI / 3.3.1 - PC / Windows XP - VERIFIED / FIXED / major / - Assignee: emoffatt - [Trim] [Trim] NPE in IWorkbenchPage.setPartState(IWorkbenchPartReference, IWorkbenchPage.STATE_RESTORED);
[19:31:11] <T-elos> Bug 281623 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281623 - Platform / UI / 3.5 - All / All - VERIFIED / FIXED / major / - Assignee: emoffatt - [FastView] NPE in FastViewPane$2.setState (was: File Search doesn't work in 3.5.0)
[19:32:22] <Cluber> i mean i don't even know that this ui is
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[19:34:24] <rcjsuen> Cluber: Did you just start your new job?
[19:34:44] <Cluber> no?
[19:34:48] <Cluber> im a student
[19:35:16] <Cluber> had JCreator on old pc
[19:35:22] <Cluber> thought id give eclipse a go
[19:35:34] <rcjsuen> your application is a regular java app?
[19:35:44] <Cluber> rcjsuen: yes
[19:35:47] <Cluber> well its a console app
[19:35:52] <rcjsuen> not sure why you'd hit that bug then
[19:36:00] <rcjsuen> the bug should not prevent you from working tho
[19:36:03] <Cluber> it's to do with the welcome screen ive read
[19:36:16] <rcjsuen> just close the welcome screen
[19:36:17] <rcjsuen> with that X
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[19:37:18] <Cluber> rcjsuen: i closed eclipse
[19:37:24] <Cluber> closed welcome screen with X
[19:37:27] <Cluber> and now it works
[19:37:29] <Cluber> lol
[19:37:33] <rcjsuen> That sounds about right.
[19:37:45] <Cluber> dam welcome screen
[19:37:49] <Cluber> noob programmers :P
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[19:39:05] <Cluber> thanks anyway
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[19:43:35] <elad`> How do I compile and run C++ programs from within Eclipse?
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[19:46:29] <rcjsuen> elad`: i think there are howtos in the ~cdt-faq
[19:46:30] <T-elos> Looking for all of the answers related to CDT, or just most of them?  Check out the mighty CDT-FAQ (http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ).
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[19:50:38] <serengeti> hi, I'm trying to use eclipse over remote X and it's terribly slow... the connection is pretty fast, I can run other GTK apps with no noticeable delay. any clues how to speed it up?
[19:50:46] <elad`> Thanks.
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[19:56:08] <picosam> hello all; how do I find out which version of Java did eclipse exactly start up with?
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[19:57:03] <rcjsuen> picosam: check your config details thru the about dialog
[19:59:25] <picosam> is it in the sun.boot.library.path key?
[19:59:45] <picosam> if it is then it's still booting from 1.5, even though I specified the -vm argument in the info.plist file (I'm using Snow Leopard) :(
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[20:00:55] <picosam> also java.version=1.5.0_19
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[20:35:15] <ValentinMa> Hello everybody  -> is there anybody who use OpenFoam with eclispe?
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[20:37:35] <ValentinMa> I need help - because in  openfoam you have to use wmake
[20:38:10] <ValentinMa> and I am have no experience with eclipse
[20:39:14] <ValentinMa> How I can change the build command from make to wmake
[20:39:17] <ValentinMa> ?
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[20:47:23] <alankila> Is there something wrong with the way Eclipse shows AWT EventQueue errors? Because all I get in my project is the exception type -- "NullPointerException", say, and then EventDispatchQueue.run() at bottom. But all intermediate steps are missing, including the precise file and line where the NPE occured.
[20:47:34] <alankila> I'm looking for the cause, but it's hard to find because nobody else seems to be having this problem
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[20:48:18] <ValentinMa> Is there anybodx who can help me?
[20:49:53] <nitind> alankila: Add NullPointerException as an exception type to catch in the Breakpoints view.
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[20:52:42] <alankila> mmm... that might be it ... I have previously disabled some exception because it happened every time I started the project and I got tired hitting F8
[20:53:01] <alankila> but I do not know where I can change this -- I have no Breakpoints view I can identify, nor can I find something like that from Preferences...
[20:53:16] <rcjsuen> same plaace where you open any other view
[20:53:22] <rcjsuen> Window > Show View > Other...
[20:53:55] <alankila> I see, but the view has no content whatsoever
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[20:55:40] <alankila> hmm. Well, now that I opened it again some content appeared in it... But there's nothing I can do to add NPE as one type to catch
[20:56:48] <alankila> I have completely forgot what I did to stop the system to always catch some exception that arose from missing a font -- which it substituted -- damn ... but I'll keep looking
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[21:00:57] <rcjsuen> alankila: http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.jdt.doc.user/reference/views/breakpoints/ref-addexception_viewaction.htm
[21:01:00] <rcjsuen> alankila: http://java.dzone.com/articles/using-java-assertions-use
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[21:03:04] <alankila> rcjsuen: thank you, you are being very helpful, but the UI I have inside Breakpoints view is nothing at all like the one shown in the item "Breakpoints View". In fact there is again nothing at all in it, just white space.
[21:03:14] <musetux> Greetings All, Could anyone point me in the direction of ref material to set-up Eclipse for PHP w/test server? I tried to run a HelloWorld.php and it gave me an error "Page load failed with error: can't connect to host". I don't see any servers listed in Prefs. Thanks!
[21:03:29] <rcjsuen> alankila: screenshot
[21:04:16] <rcjsuen> alankila: and in the second article, it says 'Run > Add Java Exception Breakpoint...', so you don't even need the view to be opened.
[21:04:32] <alankila> http://bel.fi/~alankila/eclipse35.png
[21:04:57] <alankila> ah, great, that way I do get to see that window
[21:06:03] <rcjsuen> your breakpoints view is very strange
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[21:06:38] <alankila> hey, it worked
[21:06:47] <alankila> I added NPE as the list to catch and lo and behold, an actual stack trace
[21:07:19] <alankila> but this is odd. Why is the behavior with AWT EventQueue different from other cases? Because I certainly get stack traces from nullpointerexceptions where AWT is not in the picture
[21:08:30] <alankila> rcjsuen: really? But this is supposed to be eclipse 3.5, nothing extra installed in it
[21:09:20] <rcjsuen> alankila: well, yours is (almost) empty
[21:09:24] <alankila> oh, fuck me, now I do understand why this code didn't work. *bangs head to wall*
[21:10:19] <rcjsuen> alankila: this has more stuff https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/download/attachments/73220/Eclipse_Disable_Breakpoints_lores.png
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[21:13:14] <GuyFromHell> Not sure if this is the right place for a pydev question but - I can't "use" pydev in any way after installing it (the new one that came out, 1.5?)
[21:13:40] <rcjsuen> pydev questions should probably go to the pydev mailing list/forums
[21:13:51] <rcjsuen> regardless, elaborating on your problem may help your cause
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[21:16:19] <alankila> ok, but now that I'm catching the NPE I keep on getting the old font problem: some 4 NPEs from TrueTypeFont.open(). I hope I can filter the breakpoints somehow so that I don't have to see those every time I try to start this app :-/
[21:17:14] <GuyFromHell> rcjsuen, like, there's no pydev in preferences, no Pydev project/python anything in new. it's like it's not installed.
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[21:20:31] <rcjsuen> GuyFromHell: you could check your about dialog for installation details and try to search for pydev there i suppose
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[21:20:50] <GuyFromHell> rcjsuen, yep, did that first. it's there :/
[21:21:23] <GuyFromHell> is there eclipse plugin debug mode or something? i know if i go on the forums something like that is going to be asked for
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[21:22:49] <rcjsuen> You can use the OSGi console with -console argument and try to start the Python plug-ins explicitly I suppose.
[21:23:30] <GuyFromHell> i'll check it out
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[21:26:54] <CaBa> hi guys
[21:27:13] <CaBa> i've got a strange problem - eclipse just started ignoring my backspace and arrow keys within the editor area
[21:27:24] <CaBa> restarting doesnt help
[21:27:45] <CaBa> i wonder if i hit some sort of magic key combination that switched the editor in some sort of wirred mode or something
[21:27:45] <GuyFromHell> k so don't really want to learn osgi console syntax. I'm just going to mv over my workspace and reinstall, see if that works
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[21:28:38] <rcjsuen> GuyFromHell: There's a help command, it's relatively straightforward
[21:29:14] <rcjsuen> but whatever works for you
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[21:31:25] <GuyFromHell> that did it. guess is some kind of incompatibility, maybe with the android plugin or w/e. no biggie
[21:31:26] <GuyFromHell> thanks
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[21:44:55] <serengeti> has anyone here  tried to use eclipse over remote X? It's unbearably slow even though other programs work fine. I've found this old thread describing the same problem but no solution - http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/fedora-devel-list at redhat dot com/8328118.html
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[21:49:14] <rcjsuen> ~273950
[21:49:42] <T-elos> Bug 273950 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=273950 - Platform / SWT / 3.4.1 - PC / Unix All - NEW / critical / - Assignee: gheorghe - eclipse menu and panels are unresponsive for ~2 seconds with remote X
[21:50:10] <serengeti> thanks, I'll check this out
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[22:08:43] <ries> hey All, is it possible to un-install a extension/module by hand???
[22:09:08] <ries> it spends already minutes to un-install a module on 'Resolving Dependencies'
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[22:10:51] <rcjsuen> not really, you'd have to delete by hand and your metadata may be corrupt as a result
[22:10:53] <ries> Ahhh 8 minutes... time for light to get from sun to the earth!!! and still running around in circles locally...
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[22:11:30] <ries> rcjsuen: My problem is I have no insight on what Eclipse is doing... Except I see a waiting dialog where the 'bar' is 5 pixels from the beginning....
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[22:12:17] <rcjsuen> getting a thread dump might help i suppose
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[22:12:47] <ries> I wa shoping for a log :)
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[22:52:56] <Tuttle> Anybody here uses the JavaScript code validation?
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