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[01:39:07] <gizmobay> I'm trying to debug a web page php script.
[01:39:41] <gizmobay> The problem is I get session terminated when I launch the web page thus I can't debug
[01:40:14] <gizmobay> I don't understand why. I have two web page scripts and one works the other gives me terminated error.
[01:40:58] <gizmobay> I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 and I untared the download to me home directory
[01:41:13] <gizmobay> Using 3.4.2
[01:41:25] <gizmobay> Can someone point me in the right direction?
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[02:53:39] <WillPittenger> rcjsuen: You in?
[03:01:45] <rcjsuen> WillPittenger: maybe
[03:02:12] <WillPittenger> Did you get the update I sent?
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[03:02:42] <rcjsuen> Yes, some 10 hours ago or so I guess.
[03:02:58] <WillPittenger> I am still having those plugin problems.
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[04:28:25] <name> i'm trying to install subclipse via help->software updates
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[04:28:42] <Guest16042> when i click on accept license the next button is still greyed out
[04:28:49] <Guest16042> wtf
[04:29:27] <rcjsuen> Guest16042: try exiting the dialog and retrying
[04:31:14] <rcjsuen> dunno then, you could try restarting i suppose
[04:31:47] <Guest16042> do i have to run it as root?
[04:32:11] <rcjsuen> No.
[04:32:34] <rcjsuen> I don't anyway.
[04:33:29] <Guest16042> i wouldn't think so ether
[04:33:42] <rcjsuen> you can also try clicking back to the beginning and moving forward again instead of closing the dialog completely
[04:33:54] <Guest16042> try that too
[04:36:57] <Guest16042> got it. before the "i accept license..." screen i clicked on more and scrolled down for each license
[04:37:00] <Guest16042> kind of strange
[04:37:20] <Guest16042> had to click on the more screen before the license agreement screen
[04:37:26] <Guest16042> *more link
[04:37:57] <rcjsuen> do you have a screenshot?
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[08:22:43] <jaysern> hi
[08:23:23] <jaysern> i have google's app engine plugin installed for eclipse, but i'm very new to eclipse and i'm not sure how to get eclipse to recognize that existing google app engine project. any ideas ?
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[08:47:15] <jaysern> nevermind, found it: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/tools/eclipse.html
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[09:05:50] <WillPittenger> asdfp;lkj
[09:06:02] <WillPittenger> :P  Wrong window.
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[10:31:11] <WillPittenger> There is a JS platform called Afla><.  I keep expecting to see a duck in its logo.
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[10:52:10] <WillPittenger> Well, even installing a plugin to Aptana broke Eclipse.
[10:52:10] <Terminus> hello. question, is there a way to change the default source and header path/names when i create a new c++ class in eclipse?
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[10:56:04] <Terminus> also, how can i change ${include_guard_symbol} ?
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[11:24:22] <oopepe> Hello, can you tell me how the eclipse.exe on windows works? It doesnt spawn a java.exe to execute the code, does it?
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[11:27:55] <oopepe> Is there somewhere the sourcecode for the starter?
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[11:32:12] <WillPittenger> Help!  It looks like too many plugins is breaking Eclipse.  I need both XUL tools for my XUL Runner app and Aptana for my website.  But if I put both on, Eclipse won't let any plugins run.  They are installed, but won't load.
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[12:05:56] <sloin> please how can I run SELECT in database development ? I'm using oracle driver
[12:06:20] <sloin> or if it is even possible, cause I can't find any option for that
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[13:11:43] <WillPittenger> It would really help if someone could tell me why Eclipse won't load the installed plugins.
[13:14:20] <erdal> maybe, they are not compatible with your runtime? i.e. missing dependencies, wrong versions, ...
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[13:15:38] <WillPittenger> This is the file at E:\Projects\.metadata\.log: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/669349
[13:17:02] <WillPittenger> Surely it would refuse to install those that aren't compatible.  Even if they some are incompatible, it should load the rest.  Also, I can get Aptana and Hg working--until I add more plugins.
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[13:23:25] <rcjsuen> sloin: You mean with standard Java APIs? You could ask in ##java.
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[13:28:42] <rcjsuen> WillPittenger: You could attempt to salvage some information thru the installation details in the about dialog
[13:29:08] <WillPittenger> I don't follow you.
[13:29:59] <rcjsuen> Help > About Dialog > Installation Details
[13:30:09] <WillPittenger> And?
[13:30:19] <WillPittenger> I understand that part.
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[13:30:25] <rcjsuen> and try to extract some information from there
[13:30:39] <WillPittenger> What would I extract?
[13:30:57] <rcjsuen> i dunno
[13:30:59] <rcjsuen> look at the installed software
[13:31:02] <rcjsuen> is everything still there?
[13:31:07] <rcjsuen> check the installation history to see if anything useful is shown
[13:31:17] <rcjsuen> look at features/plugins also and see if all your plug-in are still there
[13:31:24] <rcjsuen> you see they disappear when you install something else
[13:31:29] <rcjsuen> well you should verify that inforamtion here
[13:31:31] <WillPittenger> Did you look at the log I posted?
[13:31:44] <rcjsuen> I took a glance
[13:31:54] <rcjsuen> lots of unparseable information and some runtime error with Aptana
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[13:35:38] <WillPittenger> BTW: A user over in #mootools, namely ethanol, said that Ecplise was bad because it relies on Java.
[13:36:14] <rcjsuen> Well that makes a decent amount of software bad then I guess. :)
[13:36:46] <rcjsuen> But if that person doesn't want to use any tools / software built on top of Eclipse, well, that's up to him anyway. :)
[13:37:06] <erdal> rcjsuen: +1
[13:37:23] <rcjsuen> We are not here to force people to use Eclipse anyway. At least, I know I'm not. :)
[13:37:48] <rcjsuen> erdal: Good to see you post on the e4 list. :)
[13:38:00] <erdal> i thought i would try it
[13:38:02] <erdal> ;-)
[13:38:52] <sloin> rcjsuen: no, I mean in the Database development perspective
[13:38:58] <rcjsuen> oic
[13:39:13] <sloin> with the list of database sources
[13:39:22] <sloin> I suppose there is a way to do this
[13:40:21] <sloin> there are options for listing content of the entire table or modify whatever, but I can't see anything for making a select
[13:41:41] <WillPittenger> Only one of the following can be installed at once:
[13:41:43] <WillPittenger>     Dynamic Languages Toolkit - Core Frameworks 1.0.0.v20090819-7C--EAAoOQBPle07Mwd0 (org.eclipse.dltk.core.feature.jar 1.0.0.v20090819-7C--EAAoOQBPle07Mwd0)
[13:41:45] <WillPittenger>     Dynamic Languages Toolkit - Core Frameworks 2.0.0.v20090815-7N--EC3wSUXUBpD9Rie7 (org.eclipse.dltk.core.feature.jar 2.0.0.v20090815-7N--EC3wSUXUBpD9Rie7)
[13:42:03] <WillPittenger> One of those is already installed.  But how I uninstall the old one?
[13:42:38] <rcjsuen> there's an uninstall button in that dialog i talked to you about earlier
[13:42:47] <rcjsuen> whether it's going to work or not i cannot say
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[13:43:31] <WillPittenger> I take it that uninstalling isn't reliable.
[13:43:47] <rcjsuen> I've never used it, I cannot speak from experience.
[13:44:14] <rcjsuen> erdal: I agree with the pluggability thing and don't see any reason why both solutions (there may be more later!) can't be "blessed", per se.
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[13:45:06] <rcjsuen> ppl are always gonna spawn off new ways of doing things anyway ;p
[13:45:11] <rcjsuen> common problem in open source world :)
[13:45:13] <erdal> sue
[13:45:17] <erdal> sure
[13:46:38] <WillPittenger> rcjsuen: I am viewing the installation details.  Now what about that salvage part?
[13:47:58] <rcjsuen> look at the history, look what's listed, see if things are still there or did they just disappear
[13:48:01] <rcjsuen> etc etc
[13:48:30] <WillPittenger> Everything is listed.
[13:48:31] <erdal> they always disappear and must be replaced
[13:48:40] <WillPittenger> "Current Installation"
[13:48:41] <erdal> by newer and better ways
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[13:49:29] <rcjsuen> but you can't open the views you said?
[13:50:12] <WillPittenger> Correct.  Some of those plugins add new items in File/New like XUL Runner application and the Aptana stuff.
[13:50:38] <rcjsuen> well i'd still expect those menus to show up (since those are usually declared...declaratively)
[13:50:40] <rcjsuen> instead of in code
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[13:51:24] <erdal> if a plugin is not resolved, does the runtime still collect its contributions?
[13:51:24] <WillPittenger> It is almost like an error loading one plugin prevented Eclipse from loading any.
[13:52:13] <rcjsuen> erdal: never thot about it, paulweb515 would know I guess
[13:52:28] <rcjsuen> you mean the OSGi RESOLVED state?
[13:52:32] <erdal> yes
[13:52:41] <erdal> because it would make no sense
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[13:52:52] <erdal> maybe, it depends on code
[13:53:10] <rcjsuen> tbh i'm not familiar with those states
[13:53:18] <erdal> me neither ;-)
[13:53:32] <rcjsuen> but looking at the api
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[13:53:46] <rcjsuen> i guess it depends if the extension registry reads plugin.xml files from unresolved bundles or not
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[13:54:33] <paulweb515> erdal: I'm not 100% sure, but I think eclipse picks up contributions once it is installed (It doesn't have to be resolved)
[13:54:46] <paulweb515> erdal: I can ask Oleg when he gets in ... he's a registry guy :-)
[13:54:46] <erdal> ok
[13:54:48] <ramvi> How do I autocomplete (ctrl-space) on a mac?
[13:55:18] <erdal> paulweb515: it would be nice to know about that
[13:55:24] <paulweb515> erdal: it's one of the major lifecycle breaks between eclipse and OSGi
[13:55:44] <paulweb515> erdal: OSGi has a lifecycle, and plugin.xml doesn't :-)
[13:55:53] <erdal> i see
[13:56:13] <paulweb515> erdal: the OSGi guys have the complaint because if you manually stop a bundle, its plugin.xml contributions are still there
[13:56:53] <rcjsuen> ramvi: you can also try Alt+/ if Ctrl+Space doesn't work i think
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[13:57:37] <ramvi> stupid mac
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[13:57:40] <rcjsuen> okay maybe not
[13:57:45] <rcjsuen> well check your keys preferences
[13:57:49] <rcjsuen> and confirm it actually is ctrl+space
[13:57:54] <rcjsuen> or whatever the ctrl key is on the mac
[13:58:12] <ramvi> rcjsuen What is the function called in the preferences?
[13:58:31] <rcjsuen> check your keys preference, as in, check the keys pref page
[13:58:36] <rcjsuen> Eclipse > Preferences > General > Keys
[13:58:49] <ramvi> I understand. What is the autocomplete feature called?
[13:58:50] <rcjsuen> it's called 'Content Assist'
[13:58:55] <ramvi> thanks rcjsuen !
[13:59:08] <erdal> is there a "Copy Qualidied Name" for preference paths?
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[14:00:44] <erdal> or how did you get that path that quick, rcjsuen
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[14:00:56] <rcjsuen> it's called i type over a hundred words per minute
[14:01:16] <erdal> i
[14:01:17] <erdal> c
[14:01:21] <paulweb515> erdal: there doesn't appear to be (although that would be a good candidate to add to Plug-in Spy, CTRL+SHIFT+F1)
[14:02:03] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure I think that's within the spy's scope.
[14:02:12] <rcjsuen> at least, the localized strings anyway
[14:03:01] <erdal> i think there should be a "Copy Path" next to "Apply"
[14:04:58] <erdal> or if you select a page, just make ctrl-c work behind the scenes ;-)
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[14:16:57] <rcjsuen> erdal: I think the decision to ship XWT and/or TM will largely weigh in on whether anything in the e4 SDK will use XWT/TM technologies. And currently, I don't see that happening.
[14:19:34] <erdal> rcjsuen: if the e4 team itself does not reach a consensus on that, this will never happen, i think
[14:19:43] <rcjsuen> well there's also that problem ;)
[14:19:58] <rcjsuen> whether a consensus is needed or not
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[14:22:42] <erdal> of course, this is a must, else they always will be at war with one another, and that is not good for anyone
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[14:29:38] <Tyciol> that's a cool new URL
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[14:33:02] <WillPittenger> Oh, rcjsuen, after I cleaned out my Eclipse preferences and install data, the new install came without any update sites.
[14:33:46] <rcjsuen> I've only heard of that problem on Linux.
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[14:43:13] <WillPittenger> Actually, it might be a good idea if Eclipse could "discover" new update sites.  I also think that the ability to filter sites based on topics you care about might help.  Because of my XUL requirement, I was told to install the J2EE version.  But do I need J2EE?  I don't expect to do anything in Java.
[14:47:09] <rcjsuen> The Java EE package includes a variety of different tools including XML and HTML editing (and of course Java development). You may or may not need those.
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[14:48:35] <WillPittenger> I saw some of those.  But something more specific to XUL would help.  The Spket jar on their site can do an install when you click it, but it errors out for me.  Some exception was thrown.
[14:51:37] <|CC|> http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE58008O20090901 Looks like google is starting to push chrome a little more. Installed by default on s*ny
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[14:52:26] <WillPittenger> Actually, we were joking about that over on irc://irc.mozilla.org/firefox.
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[14:54:03] <WillPittenger> A user there called Chrome malware.  Remember Sony installing rootkits with their music CDs?  I then suggested they might pre-install a rookit.  Professionally installed rootkits are better than the ones you install yourself.
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[14:58:15] <tvparys> Hi all! Since I reinstalled eclipse (Galileo), the java source option "Organize Imports" doesn't seem to work anymore. The project build path does seem to include my JRE... anything that comes to mind?
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[15:03:08] <tvparys> Also the CTRL-T option (Open Type) seems only to find my own classes and not the java.* classes... where should I fix this?
[15:04:34] <tvparys> Once I manually import eg. java.util.ArrayList; the compiler doesn't complain... so the java libs are on my build path... but I'd like it to find to imports by itself
[15:04:47] <rcjsuen> tvparys: try in a new workspace
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[15:08:04] <tvparys> rcjsuen: you're correct, in a fresh workspace, it works alright
[15:08:17] <tvparys> rcjsuen: any idea how to fix it in my current ws?
[15:08:36] <rcjsuen> hard to say
[15:08:45] <rcjsuen> close all your projects
[15:08:46] <tvparys> rcjsuen: true :-)
[15:08:47] <rcjsuen> make a new project
[15:08:49] <rcjsuen> see what happens
[15:09:16] <tvparys> rcjsuen: Ok... I'll play around some more. At least I know now it's my settings and not the new Eclipse install
[15:12:58] <tvparys> rcjsuen: actually changing the workspace did the trick. When I came back, the imports were working. It's magic.
[15:13:09] <rcjsuen> oic
[15:13:15] <rcjsuen> maybe you just needed a restart then
[15:13:18] <rcjsuen> well, whatever :)
[15:13:34] <tvparys> rcjsuen: tried that of course. And indeed, thanks!
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[15:46:54] <volodya> what can cause eclipse do how "User operation is waiting" dialog, listing "Build workspace" and "Waiting operation" jobs in it? I am sure I don't use any jobs in the code that is executed (only asyncExec)
[15:49:09] <rcjsuen> if in doubt use breakpoints and see who's populating it ;)
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[15:51:27] <visik7> hi
[15:51:34] <visik7> is there a way to globally refresh all resource ?
[15:51:35] <visik7> s
[15:53:00] <damianharvey> just loaded up a new 3.5 on Mac 10.6. Any ideas why the Snippets View might be missing?
[15:53:15] <volodya> rcjsuen: heh, then the right question is -- what is the name of the class that is that dialog?
[15:53:21] <rcjsuen> visik7: what, using Eclipse APIs?
[15:53:29] <rcjsuen> volodya: use plug-in spy
[15:53:30] <visik7> no a button
[15:53:33] <visik7> or a shortcut
[15:53:56] <rcjsuen> don't think there is one
[15:54:02] <rcjsuen> i never refresh my whole worksapce
[15:54:02] <visik7> F5 doesn't seams to work for the whole project
[15:54:04] <visik7> this is very annoing
[15:54:23] <visik7> when I run a search it says "unable to search into file xy 'couse it's out of sync"
[15:55:02] <krbarnes> damianharvey: Snippets View?
[15:55:06] <volodya> rcjsuen: is plugin spy something in platform, or just in PDE?
[15:55:09] <damianharvey> nevermind. That was Eclipse Classic.
[15:55:10] <rcjsuen> pde
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[15:55:17] <volodya> ok, thanks
[15:55:23] <damianharvey> loaded up Eclipse JEE and it's there.
[15:55:34] * volodya has to try of a local box
[15:55:54] <semanticpc> can someone tell me where I can find the remote development plugin for Eclipse Galileo
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[16:07:26] <S1kx> Hey. how can I turn off that (in PDT) when I type a > and press tab, it will show me 'abstract, and, ..' and more keywords?
[16:07:35] <S1kx> Didnt find it in the keyassistant
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[16:26:28] <Echidna> do i have to explicitly add a mouse wheel listener to a canvas for wheel scroll?
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[16:59:25] <rcjsuen> Echidna: i believe so
[16:59:35] <Milo-> rcjsuen I downloaded eclipse 3.5 JEE package and the problem disappeared :) Thanks for pointing me to the bug report :)
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[17:00:20] <Milo-> now all I had to do was to locate all the missing extensions and jars I had collected in the last two years :P
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[17:03:13] <Milo-> rcjsuen you said you used gentoo?
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[17:03:19] <rcjsuen> that's correct
[17:03:54] <Milo-> is there any need for eclipce-ecj and ant-eclipse-ecj if you download the JEE package directly from eclipse.org?
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[17:04:25] <rcjsuen> I don't think I have those.
[17:04:37] <Milo-> okay :)
[17:04:40] <rcjsuen> Though I'm not positive, I'm at work not facing my notebook.
[17:04:49] <rcjsuen> you should ask in #gentoo-java
[17:04:55] <Milo-> well, I'll remove them and see if something breaks, simple as that :)
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[17:05:06] <rcjsuen> the only other Java app i use is Vuze, which I do emerge for
[17:08:32] <Milo-> great, now to move all the files to their rightful places and fix the symlinks
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[17:26:35] <Echidna> rcjsuen: actually, all i had to do is make a canvas.setFocus() call for wheel scrolling to work
[17:26:56] <rcjsuen> that sounds vaguely familiar now that i think about it
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[17:30:23] <thowland> anyone know how to hide JAR files from the project explorer? I turned on the external libraries filter, but these jars are in the project. I used to be able to set a pattern to ignore, but can't find it any more.
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[17:35:45] <Milo-> ahhh, all of the plugin and update sites have disappeared, and there are no lists for such sites..
[17:35:50] <Milo-> brilliant
[17:36:41] <SaEeDIRHA> hello , i have "Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers" the latest version "galileo" under windows, the problem is there isnt any option to create Managed Executable C++ project!
[17:36:55] <SaEeDIRHA> how can i create Managed or Standard C++ project ?
[17:37:46] <SaEeDIRHA> because i cannot change the "Builder settings" :(
[17:38:53] <SaEeDIRHA> i want to change the "builder command" from "make" to "mingw32-make", but the box is disabled and i cannot change it!
[17:39:02] <SaEeDIRHA> is there anything i can do ?
[17:41:32] <volodya> If a project builder wishes to change/create some files, should it do that in IWorkspaceRunnable or what?
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[17:47:09] <SaEeDIRHA> anyone can help ?
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[17:49:48] <Milo-> could anyone provide me with a list of default updatesites for eclipse-3.5?
[17:50:48] <Milo-> my software update shows no sites at all :/
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[17:51:09] <FauxFaux> Even in the Avaiable Software Sites link, just below?
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[17:51:32] <Milo-> it just opens a preferences window with no sites.
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[17:51:46] <FauxFaux> Odd!
[17:51:52] <Milo-> all gone
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[17:59:55] <dbu_> Hi, I want to compile a java project i have -> I created a new project, and then imported my java project. But the build button is greyed out- what are the common problems with this type of stuff? (Eclipse 3.2.2)
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[18:22:54] <gizmobay> I'm trying to setup the Zend debugger. When I add this line to the php file per the instructions zend_debugger.expose_remotely=always when I go to any php script it'll prompt me for a download
[18:23:44] <gizmobay> If I comment it out in the php.ini file, then php works
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[18:45:11] <MrStein> Hi! What does a ">" char before the project name in project explorer mean? I did not find it in online help. (version 3.5.0)
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[18:58:28] <akravets> MrStein: this means that the project is from cvs repository and there are changes between your workspace and the cvs
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[18:58:53] <akravets> project in your workspace with ">" that is
[18:59:28] <rcjsuen> Milo-: where did you untar
[18:59:50] <rcjsuen> dbu_: usually it's built automatically, and fyi 3.2.2 is three years old
[18:59:52] <Milo-> first to my home folder, then moved to /usr/lib/
[19:00:13] <rcjsuen> Milo-: untar in ~/ and you should be fine
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[19:00:54] <MrStein> akravets:  actually it is SVN...
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[19:01:29] <akravets> hmm, svn is usually asterisk...
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[19:02:24] <akravets> are you running latest svn client MrStein ?
[19:02:28] <MrStein> and it is strange, since I just checked out a few projects, and some have the sign, others don't
[19:02:48] <MrStein> akravets: the very latest. I installed everything  a few hours ago.
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[19:03:24] <MrStein> it says: nothing to update
[19:03:40] <akravets> can you right click on the project with > next to it and bring up properties?
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[19:04:51] <MrStein> yes
[19:04:57] <akravets> see if there is a Subversion node in the tree on the left
[19:04:57] <MrStein> what should I look for ?
[19:05:36] <MrStein> There is a "SVN Info" item
[19:06:14] <akravets> then I am not sure...may be somebody else knows
[19:06:55] <MrStein> All of them projects have a "SVN Info" item
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[20:27:24] <shadowchris14> hi
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[20:36:40] <aaa_> hello, I'm making change in jsp file, but when I load the jsp file in the web browser, the jsp file seems to be unmodified
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[21:10:16] <hsai> hi
[21:10:32] <hsai> any one have an idea how to install EMF to eclipse Fedora
[21:21:51] <rcjsuen> presumably thru the update site
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[23:05:44] <fxn> hey Eclipse in my Mac started to say it finds no Java interpreter, I've even downloaded 64 bits to no avail
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[23:09:19] <nitind> fxn: That's not a lot of information to go on.
[23:09:38] <fxn> nitind: would you like me to try something?
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[23:10:22] <nitind> fxn: Well, when did it start to say that?  Did it always?  Is it a 32-bit or 64-bit Eclipse?  Cocoa or Carbon?
[23:10:56] <fxn> Java is installed, in fact I used eclipse yesterday and all of a sudden launches complaining, but can't for the life of me tell what I could change
[23:11:31] <fxn> the one I currently try is eclipse-SDK-3.5-macosx-cocoa-x86_64
[23:11:43] <fxn> system Java is
[23:11:44] <fxn> http://pastie.org/603575
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[23:13:58] <fxn> RubyMine works as usual for example
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[23:15:29] <fxn> the error says it is looking for /Applications/eclipse/Eclipse.app/Contents/MacOS/jre/bin/java, and indeed it is not there
[23:16:08] <fxn> let me try something
[23:16:15] <nitind> It doesn't link back to /Libraries/somethingsomething/java/CurrentVersion/somethingsomething?
[23:17:26] <fxn> http://pastie.org/603585
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[23:21:21] <fxn> hey I founded it
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[23:22:44] <fxn> I added .MacOSX/environment.plist with some custom PATH that didn't included /usr/bin, for some reason bash had /usr/bin and I thought that meant it was merged with systems PATH, but I guess GUI apps do not merge the dir lists
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[23:22:54] <fxn> RubyMine working confused as well
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