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[00:20:25] <luisgrin> hi, i got no se encuentra la pagina (page not found)
[00:20:53] <luisgrin> but the editor seems to be working
[00:21:52] <luisgrin> hi supergreg
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[01:51:57] <luisgrin> hi im back
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[02:54:50] <pombreda> luisgrin: cool
[02:58:19] <luisgrin> hi
[02:59:02] <luisgrin> the editor is working thankj a lot
[02:59:32] <supergreg> then I'm too late, as always :P
[02:59:45] <supergreg> not that I would be able to help much anyways..
[02:59:57] <luisgrin> first time i saw a problem with xampp
[03:00:14] <supergreg> what was the solution?
[03:01:29] <supergreg> pombreda: any plans to incorporate Aptana in the LAMP distro?
[03:03:06] <luisgrin> you ask me supergreg?
[03:04:06] <supergreg> yes luisgrin, I was just wondering if you found a good tip I should know about ;)
[03:04:54] <luisgrin> mmm, the wysiwyg editor problem was fixed replacing jre
[03:05:16] <luisgrin> xampp broke... i xammp_restarted :)
[03:05:48] <luisgrin> now im lookin at seagull it was recomended by ajt as a good framwork for a beginner in oop
[03:06:45] <luisgrin> by now i see it very nice
[03:07:01] <supergreg> thats a php one?
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[03:07:11] <supergreg> I think there are lots of good ones now, there are so many of them
[03:07:13] <luisgrin> yes it is
[03:07:41] <luisgrin> yes seagull is a framework, i heard abouyt php-struts also
[03:07:56] <luisgrin> and a lot more, cake.. etc etc
[03:08:29] <luisgrin> but really im to lazy to follow docs and i need someone easy examples
[03:09:13] <luisgrin> i develop kind of middle to large database-driven app with php and mysql (about 50 tables)
[03:09:53] <luisgrin> the site is about heath care system
[03:10:07] <supergreg> wow, must be cool to work on a longterm project like that
[03:10:56] <luisgrin> yes, but im old and i allways had programmers to do the coding, now im working alone
[03:10:56] <pombreda> supergreg: yes, there have been many requests for apatana
[03:11:59] <pombreda> luisgrin: :-)
[03:13:07] <luisgrin> pombreda, what can i do? im sure i have more years working that you in this earth :)
[03:13:38] <luisgrin> but i never liked programming allways project selling and analisys
[03:13:39] <pombreda> luisgrin: it could be but ... you never know
[03:13:54] <luisgrin> im 52, working sine i was 21
[03:14:01] <pombreda> :-)
[03:14:07] <pombreda> you beat me by a margin
[03:14:09] <luisgrin> was i right?
[03:14:12] <pombreda> yep
[03:14:18] <luisgrin> hahaha ok
[03:14:35] <supergreg> Im only 24, but I have been working since I was 12, with web since I was 15 =)
[03:14:47] <pombreda> anyway, in selecting a framework, using seagull is not bad choice, and you will have the friendly ajt to help you along the way I am sure
[03:14:48] <luisgrin> yes???? wow!
[03:15:10] * pombreda needs to run home... bbl
[03:15:14] <luisgrin> ajt yes!!! i hope i will
[03:15:16] <pombreda> l8ter!
[03:15:21] <supergreg> later
[03:19:05] <luisgrin> where are you from supergreg?
[03:19:43] <supergreg> norway
[03:20:23] <luisgrin> :) i was in 1991 in thromheim
[03:20:40] <supergreg> small world, as usual =)
[03:21:00] <luisgrin> sure it is, come visit buenos aires :)
[03:21:17] <luisgrin> is cheap, clean and the BEST FOOD wordlwide!
[03:21:24] <luisgrin> absolutey
[03:21:25] <luisgrin> :)
[03:23:44] <supergreg> well did you try the norwegian version of so-called mexican food? I love it, but I dont think I really ever tasted proper south-american food, hehe
[03:24:31] <luisgrin> you will now taste it in argentina also, we are 99% from spain, italy, germany and jews
[03:24:44] <luisgrin> only a few natives here
[03:24:51] <supergreg> ah ok
[03:25:13] <luisgrin> best pizza, pasta, MEAT hahahaha people get crazy about meat
[03:25:25] <luisgrin> kind of barbacoa
[03:26:46] <luisgrin> i hope ill see ajt to start using seagull, is very hard to start something if you know nothing about that
[03:27:13] <supergreg> yeah, I have a friend who travelled around Southamerica last year, a couple of places she was served only steak, with no extras, just a big steak. Sounds crazy, but I think I would like it :)
[03:27:55] <luisgrin> yes, it is pretty normal here ... only a little green maybe
[03:28:02] <luisgrin> but mainly meat
[03:28:52] <luisgrin> now i cant do that i passed a heart cirgury
[03:29:06] <luisgrin> so, no more maet for me
[03:29:16] <supergreg> that means you have lived a good rich life ;)
[03:30:58] <luisgrin> yes i did, :) actually i want to go again to the baltic sea from where my mother was (north biolorrusia)
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[04:58:13] <luisgrin> :)
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[10:37:10] <rxKaffee> hi, are there easyeclipse php packages availiable for gentoo?
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[17:38:03] <pombred1> rxKaffee: not atm, but we have been talking about it forever :\
[17:38:12] <pombred1> rxKaffee: help will be welcomed :-P
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[22:04:46] <rxKaffee> pombreda: the problem with a gentoo package, is that, I don't think any of the versions of php in gentoo's package management play nice with DBG
[22:07:13] <pombreda> rxKaffee: well, we have been thinking @ phpeclipse (where i help too) to ship php binaries for private eclipse use)
[22:08:24] <rxKaffee> we should bumrush nusphere and make them release something modern :/
[22:10:05] <rxKaffee> a modern dbg I mean :)
[22:11:43] <pombreda> :-)
[22:12:05] <pombreda> rxKaffee: we are also working on xdebug/dbgp
[22:12:15] <pombreda> rxKaffee: that'll be an alternative to dbg
[22:12:25] <rxKaffee> oh, how very cool
[22:12:39] <pombreda> more modern
[22:13:00] <rxKaffee> when I looked at phpeclipse individually a week or so ago, I saw xdebug, but it did not appear that it had been very developed into the system yet
[22:13:22] <rxKaffee> but that was in some older version of phpeclipse I'm sure it wasn't a cvs copy
[22:14:13] <pombreda> xdebug is in cvs head atm, not yet ready for release
[22:14:14] <rxKaffee> I would suggest, that if you package a private binary of php, that you package it as a seperate tarball file :)
[22:14:34] <pombreda> rxKaffee: :-) most likely ift would be package as an eclkipse plugin
[22:14:44] <rxKaffee> with the xdebug and dbgp working, lots would probably opt to use their existing php installs
[22:14:46] <pombreda> that would private to phpeclipse for debug/parsing only
[22:14:59] <pombreda> that would not be public
[22:16:06] <rxKaffee> a broken debugger, I think, would be the only reason that I would choose to go with a pre-compiled php, otherwise  Ithink I would probably want it to use my custom compile options and extension thinggys
[22:17:07] <pombreda> rxKaffee: sure, but frmo an tool perspective you never know what is the target machine like, so shipping it preconfigured and private at all times so its works is a good option imho...
[22:17:21] <pombreda> and it leaving the option to use your own of course :-)
[22:19:31] <rxKaffee> I guess one could always come back after-the-fact and delete the pre-packaged parser if necessary
[22:20:08] <pombreda> rxKaffee: sure, but disk is cheap, vs the hassle of a b0rked config :-P
[22:20:32] <rxKaffee> pombreda: did you not read that I run gentoo? lol
[22:20:45] <rxKaffee> meaning: b0rked config is why I use this distro, hehe
[22:20:51] <pombreda> rxKaffee: I know, but I love to troll
[22:21:27] <pombreda> gentoo: the only distro where the same bit never happens twice on disk
[22:22:05] <pombreda> rxKaffee: most cool kids in town run gentoo :-)
[22:22:47] <rxKaffee> :)
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