[00:05:37] <kreign> if I hear "that shouldn't take more than 5 minutes. seriously." one more fucking time, someone is going to die. [00:05:50] <kreign> hint: it'll be the fact fucker who can't manage his time but tells me how to manage mine. [00:07:20] <kdavy_> kreign, choking him shouldn't take more than 5 minutes [00:08:32] <kreign> kdavy, i was thinking a slip on the bathroom floor when getting out of the shower is a sad way to go. [00:08:58] <kreign> suffocating on the shower curtain [00:09:01] <kreign> and/or blood loss [00:09:11] <kreign> that also saves a bit of time for cleanup, on account of tiling. [00:09:29] <kreign> what's that you say, only tuesday? [00:11:47] <kdavy_> lol [00:14:47] <jduggan> hmm, apparently if you use nfs on zfs you really need a separate zil device [00:14:55] <kdavy_> yes you do [00:15:00] <kdavy_> and a fast one [00:15:17] <kdavy_> or, well, it is recommended that you do [00:24:12] *** Hyper-Core has joined #Citrix [00:32:44] *** Hyper-Core has left #Citrix [00:35:28] *** Alasdairrr is now known as AlasAway [02:51:26] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [02:52:52] *** kdavy has quit IRC [02:55:06] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [02:56:04] *** kdavy has joined #Citrix [04:09:29] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [04:09:37] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [04:20:36] *** gblfxt has quit IRC [04:26:10] *** Meson has joined #Citrix [04:31:46] *** gblfxt has joined #Citrix [05:06:05] *** Meson has quit IRC [05:15:43] *** ScottCochran has joined #Citrix [05:16:55] *** ScottCochran has quit IRC [06:02:34] *** gblfxt has quit IRC [06:03:25] *** gblfxt has joined #Citrix [07:30:20] *** zaf has quit IRC [07:32:55] *** zaf has joined #Citrix [07:54:06] *** zaf has quit IRC [08:01:50] *** zaf has joined #Citrix [08:03:09] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [08:03:29] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [08:59:54] *** BWMerlin has joined #Citrix [09:05:27] *** kdavy_ has quit IRC [09:26:52] *** _bugz_ has quit IRC [09:29:35] *** _bugz_ has joined #Citrix [10:13:02] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [10:14:59] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [10:51:49] <gblfxt> gettysburg, some wack movie [10:56:24] <gblfxt> thats it, c++ is entertaining, but mind bending! :) [11:50:30] *** Trixboxer has joined #Citrix [11:52:09] *** gblfxt has quit IRC [11:53:17] *** gblfxt has joined #Citrix [12:53:26] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [12:56:22] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [13:49:50] *** dimmieh has joined #Citrix [13:49:54] *** dimmieh is now known as nikade [13:52:54] <nikade> hello! has anyone managed to raise the MTU for ex. xenbr0? ive managed, with xe to set the MTU to 9000 at eth0, but xenbr0 is a bit tuffer, does anyone have any suggestions? [13:55:18] <splatone> http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/d/0/fd05def7-68a1-4f71-8546-25c359cc0842/HoffmanUtilitySpotlight2009_04.exe [13:55:30] <nikade> what?! [13:55:33] <splatone> Fastest file sync software Ive used to date. [13:56:09] <splatone> nikade: I havent tried setting MTU on a br interface yet. [13:56:16] <nikade> splatone: but on the ethx? [13:56:31] <splatone> Niether. I havent had a reason to. [13:57:36] *** AlasAway is now known as Alasdairrr [13:59:52] <splatone> nikade: is your storage on iscsi? [14:00:01] <nikade> yeah [14:00:02] <nikade> exactly [14:00:13] <splatone> nikade: Yea im on fc. [14:00:22] <nikade> fc? fedora? [14:00:27] <nikade> ahh [14:00:28] <nikade> fibre channel [14:00:32] <splatone> yea. [14:00:33] <nikade> fucks sake, what am i thinking with [14:00:34] <nikade> lol [14:00:50] <nikade> imma end up fucking this up before i get it to work I guess [14:01:16] <Trixboxer> Hi, can host be used to set the domain IP ? Im able to fetch guest metrics but can we set them ? [14:26:01] *** BWMerlin has quit IRC [14:33:59] <tabularasa> kdavy: you around? [14:38:03] *** MassiveOverkill has joined #Citrix [15:38:16] *** q1x has joined #Citrix [15:38:21] <q1x> hello [15:38:40] <q1x> anyone here have any experience with using the PS SDK for XD5? [15:40:22] <q1x> I'm trying to figure out the path of the snaphot that is being created by the New-HypVMSnapshot so I can assign it to pool of VDI's with the New-ProvScheme cmdlet [15:40:52] <q1x> but I cant seem to find a 'list all snapshots for this VM' cmdlet [16:12:58] <q1x> *ping* [16:13:10] <tabularasa> echo rely [16:13:13] <tabularasa> reply even [16:13:50] <q1x> ok, it was so quite in here...I though I was the only human being left :) [16:14:23] <tabularasa> quiet even. ;) [16:20:57] <pak21> q1x: try something like Get-ChildItem -Recurse 'XDHyp:\HostingUnits\<HostingUnitName>\<VMName>.vm' [16:21:09] <pak21> With the obvious substitutions for <Variables in angle brackets> [16:23:44] <q1x> pak21: Thnx!! :) Although...I don't see that listed here: http://support.citrix.com/static/kc/CTX127254/help/index.htm [16:24:01] <q1x> i'll try it though [16:24:15] <pak21> Desktop Studio will use a name like Citrix_XD_<Catalog name>_<number> [16:25:24] <pak21> Get-ChildItem isn't listed in the Citrix docs as its a standard PowerShell command :-) [16:25:27] <pak21> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd347686.aspx [16:26:09] <q1x> pak21: rly? How does it know what the XD... path means? [16:26:24] <q1x> seems to work btw :) [16:26:29] <q1x> thnx! [16:27:23] <pak21> You can add your own drives to PowerShell - XDHyp: is one of those [16:27:41] <pak21> See Get-Help about_HypHostSnapIn [16:32:22] <q1x> pak21: thnx! Lot's of info there :) Guess I'll have to study the M$ resources afterall :( I had the notion the Cmdlets were just some sort of advanced batch files...I would'nt have dreamed the would extent the default windows items as well. [16:33:26] <pak21> cmdlets are honest to goodness code, written in .NET [16:33:38] <pak21> Scripts (.ps1 files) are glorified batch files :-) [16:34:33] <q1x> yeah, sorry... I'm quite a noob when it comes to powershell..just started it up for the first time yesterday [16:35:40] <q1x> I'm more of a Linux guy that got assigned to a XD PoC :S [16:36:02] <q1x> All of a sudden I need to automate stuff on windows... :D [17:01:14] *** jduggan has quit IRC [17:04:02] *** kdavy[1] has joined #Citrix [17:04:25] <q1x> pak21: any clue why -Filter, -Include and -Name won't work? I just need the complete path for my snapshot [17:08:00] *** jduggan has joined #Citrix [17:12:01] *** waynerr has quit IRC [17:29:39] *** antoon_i has joined #Citrix [17:32:47] <antoon_i> I have a question regarding the API in XenServer. When doing a VM.start() it seems to just ignore the command. This is what the script looks like: http://pastebin.com/amxPaHM4 [17:36:03] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [17:37:26] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [17:50:11] <kdavy[1]> antoon_i, is the vm plugged in? [18:10:36] <kdavy[1]> woah. you guys heard about NetScaler SDX? [18:10:56] <kdavy[1]> 50Gbps of performance [18:12:57] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [18:17:56] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [18:18:50] <jduggan> aha [18:18:52] <jduggan> kdavy[1] [18:18:59] <jduggan> im going to end up being your menace [18:19:06] <jduggan> nexenta/zfs question :D [18:19:19] <jduggan> assume i have 100gb in use on my drive [18:19:23] <jduggan> and i take a snapshot [18:19:24] <splatone> kdavy(1)_: 50Gbps.. wow.. that wont be a vpx anytime soon. [18:20:11] <jduggan> then i transfer a 500gb file [18:20:30] <jduggan> do you end up with a snapshot that is 500GB in size? [18:20:45] <jduggan> is there a maximum size of snapshot which explodes? [18:22:28] <kdavy[1]> jduggan, snapshot size = size of blocks that have been deleted or modified compared to next snapshot or live copy of data. Newly written blocks that haven't been modified since their creation do not count [18:22:59] <kdavy[1]> so the answer is, no, the snapshot will not be 500Gb in size unless ALL of the 500gb has been overwritten since the original transfer [18:24:05] <kdavy[1]> let me post a screenshot of snapshot sizes on my live system - the snapshots don't take up a lot of space at all, even when you add a lot of data to the set [18:24:12] <jduggan> aaah so new files/blocks dont count, only deleted or modified blocks [18:24:21] <kdavy[1]> correct [18:25:21] <jduggan> ok and assume changes are intense [18:25:27] <jduggan> and snapshots becomes massive [18:25:43] <jduggan> and it fills up the whole pool [18:25:48] <jduggan> would it become invalidated [18:25:53] <jduggan> is there some protection? [18:26:27] <kdavy[1]> not sure, you have to test. i'd imagine it will work the same way as VSS on windows - delete previous snapshots rather than have the pool fill up to 100% [18:26:38] <kdavy[1]> but i have not tried this scenario [18:26:58] <kdavy[1]> you can make a small pool, make it snapshot every minute, and run some large benchmark on it. see what happens :) [18:27:14] <jduggan> i have a bug [18:27:22] <jduggan> with current lvm/xfs setup on linux sans [18:27:29] <jduggan> where when a snapshot effectively explodes [18:27:34] <jduggan> i get kernel panic [18:27:39] <jduggan> so i have to be really really careful [18:28:04] <jduggan> explodes in teh sense that it uses more space than i have allocated for it [18:28:07] <jduggan> its never mounted [18:28:12] <jduggan> but something crashes the box [18:28:14] <jduggan> royal PITA [18:28:21] <jduggan> happens on various kernels [18:28:26] <kdavy[1]> does it explode on the filesystem or in the LVM [18:28:31] <jduggan> LVM [18:30:30] <kdavy[1]> then ZFS should not care [18:32:13] <jduggan> ok could [18:32:16] <jduggan> cool* [18:32:33] <jduggan> and in your opinion, whats the best way for me to backup/replicate a community box to another one? [18:32:55] <jduggan> from what i see we only have auto-tier available, which looks like basically rsync on all files in teh pool/folder that you choose, is that right? [18:37:20] <kdavy[1]> yes, auto-tier is the preferred way on free edition [18:37:30] <kdavy[1]> unless you do replication via the client [18:46:03] <antoon_i> kdavy[1], what do you mean by if it is plugged in? [18:46:37] <makson> tabularasa: u there? [18:47:26] <makson> any Kaseya user's in here? i'm just starting to play with it, and need to know more about how the agent works, how to clear the GUID, and what files contain non stateless information that needs to persist through out a reboot. I want to get it working with PVS. [18:47:38] <makson> i'm looking to see if there is a way to have agent install files go to persistent disk for pvs. [18:48:55] <kdavy[1]> antoon_i, that was a joke [18:49:32] <antoon_i> haha, right.. :) [18:53:33] <kdavy[1]> antoon_i, maybe vm.start() function needs the "on" parameter to tell it where to start the VM, just like in xe command line [18:56:39] *** KKA has quit IRC [18:57:32] <antoon_i> kdavy[1]: as there is a VM.start_on(), the VM.start() should be without the "on"? [18:57:38] *** KKA has joined #Citrix [18:57:43] <tabularasa> makson: now, yes [18:58:20] <makson> tabularasa: how would the install work with PVS? [18:58:37] <makson> tabularasa: I looked in reg and see each agent has a GUID, which is common, and there are some data files as well [18:58:47] <makson> is there a way when creating an agent to specify install path? [18:59:12] <tabularasa> install with PVS? you mean kaseya? [18:59:42] <makson> tabularasa: yes, have Kaseya agent installed on a PVS XA box. [18:59:48] <makson> on a standard image... [19:00:08] <tabularasa> why would you want Kaseya on an XA box? [19:00:11] <tabularasa> expecially on PVS ? [19:00:19] <makson> tabularasa: for proactive monitoring. [19:00:23] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [19:00:24] <makson> agent procedures. [19:00:31] <makson> remote control as well [19:00:36] <kdavy[1]> antoon_i, not sure how the API works. Maybe vm_start() only works when Workload Balancing is enabled - otherwise there could be a risk of starting the VM on a wrong server and/or overloading the system [19:00:38] <tabularasa> remote control only connects to console [19:00:51] <makson> tabularasa: what do you mean? I'm using it right now in a VM just fine. [19:00:58] <makson> it uses RDP [19:01:05] <tabularasa> i mean, you can't connect to user sessions with kaseya [19:01:24] <makson> not for user sessions, basically system admin stuff, check services, logs etc. [19:01:31] <makson> shawdowing would be for user sessions. [19:01:37] <tabularasa> yeah, true.... i've not thought of putting Kaseya on the PVS instances [19:01:53] <makson> tabularasa: I'll figure it out and write something up :) [19:01:59] <tabularasa> kdavy[1]: SDX? [19:02:17] <antoon_i> kdavy[1]: Have to try it tomorrow, hopefully that will do it. :) [19:02:26] <tabularasa> makson: yeah, that would be useful. The monitoring piece would be nice [19:02:27] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [19:02:34] <tabularasa> but we don't use PVS right now... unfortunatly [19:02:41] <kdavy[1]> tabularasa, http://community.citrix.com/display/ocb/2011/04/19/50Gbps+Service+Delivery+Fabric [19:03:04] <tabularasa> kdavy[1]: i assume you didn't get my PM as you are on as a wierd user [19:03:15] <kdavy[1]> tabularasa, no i did not get pm... [19:03:21] <kdavy[1]> my irc client crashed [19:03:45] <kdavy[1]> can you re-pm it? :) [19:13:22] *** waynerr has joined #Citrix [19:19:34] *** KaiForce has joined #Citrix [19:22:11] <KaiForce> I'm in the middle of an upgrade from PS 4.5 / PS 5.0 to XA 6. I need to build a server to run Citrix & TS Licensing on, both to support the existing and eventually to upgrade w/XA6. Any reason I can't use 2008R2 for this? [19:23:48] <tabularasa> i don't see why not [19:23:54] <tabularasa> i normally put all that on a DC [19:26:52] <tabularasa> 2008R2 DC [19:26:59] <tabularasa> but, its all XA6 licensing [19:27:38] <tabularasa> i know TS licensing is backwards compatible on it.... i didn't think Citrix Licensing cared about 4.5/5/6... only standard/advanced/etc [19:36:12] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [19:36:57] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [19:38:31] *** rev78 has joined #Citrix [19:44:40] *** rev78 is now known as rev78-away [19:50:29] <KaiForce> tabularasa: thanks a lot. I'm adding a 2008x64 to my PS 5 farm and I'm pretty sure I need to run TS license server on 2008 to support it. [19:51:05] <KaiForce> I'd like to build the server to hold licensing to support the new farm now and avoid doing it twice [19:51:12] *** Alasdairrr is now known as AlasAway [19:56:08] *** OmNomDeBonBon has joined #Citrix [20:13:56] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [20:16:57] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [20:21:53] *** rev78-away is now known as rev78 [20:33:45] *** OmNomDeBonBon has quit IRC [21:04:11] <gblfxt> what are citrix users called? citrixians? citrixites? [21:06:43] <tabularasa> citrites [21:07:33] *** KaiForce has quit IRC [21:07:36] <gblfxt> ah k, thanks [21:07:40] <tabularasa> :) [21:15:05] <tabularasa> Netscaler training - http://community.citrix.com/display/ocb/2011/04/20/Free+Training+-+NetScaler+9.3+Technology+Overview [21:27:38] *** Trixboxer has quit IRC [21:30:17] <splatone> I want netscaler training.. [21:40:24] *** SpyderZ has joined #Citrix [21:41:21] *** SpyderZ has left #Citrix [21:59:41] <tabularasa> splatone: hence why i linked it. :) [21:59:45] <tabularasa> its free [22:04:03] <splatone> Yea you been through it? [22:07:01] *** Tenju has joined #Citrix [22:07:51] <Tenju> Anyone have a moment to answer a KMS question? [22:14:49] <Tenju> nm [22:14:58] *** Tenju has quit IRC [22:23:15] <tabularasa> lol [22:23:56] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [22:26:57] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [22:28:47] <makson> tabularasa: yo [22:28:49] <makson> ah [22:28:57] <makson> tenju man, that guy left to quick [22:29:02] <makson> i worked a lot with kms [22:29:14] <makson> he needs tolearn to stick around !!! [22:33:49] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [22:36:27] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [22:59:52] *** rev78 has quit IRC [23:14:32] <JarianGibson> fail [23:14:49] <kdavy[1]> phail [23:20:27] <makson> kdavy[1]: JarianGibson what's up for brifourm and getting a pad? [23:20:29] <makson> for the 3 days [23:20:35] <makson> kdavy[1]: i'm booking ticket today. [23:28:41] <kdavy[1]> makson, cool [23:28:51] <kdavy[1]> it's still up in the air for me [23:31:28] <kdavy[1]> tabularasa, i thought citrites were citrix employees, not users [23:32:29] <makson> kdavy[1]: your not going?!!?