[00:01:57] <gladier> kdavy_: when i used to have a dedicated server in panama - my bank would lock my card every 3 months
[00:03:40] <kdavy_> gladier, last time my card was locked before that was when i was paying for an engagement ring in my hometown while on vacation somewhere else
[00:03:52] <kdavy_> which is a valid enough reason. can't complain
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[10:43:12] <KKA> Hi
[10:43:47] <KKA> I am trying to do P2V on a CentOS 5.5 machine
[10:43:56] <KKA> and I am getting this error
[10:44:02] <KKA> No supported operating system found. please refer to the user guide for the supported list of OS and volume management technologies
[10:54:40] <KKA> can any one help me in here
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[11:21:04] <Carpe|Diem> Guys
[11:21:12] <Carpe|Diem> i have a problem accessing my citrix farm from the outside
[11:21:46] <Carpe|Diem> whats funny is that if i save a launch.ica file for the interface and open it with a text editor, the server adress inside the launch.ica points to an internal IP address
[11:21:50] <Carpe|Diem> is this correct?
[11:31:58] <pak21> Do you have AG involved?
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[12:59:37] <Carpe|Diem> pak21: I have a Secure Gateway
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[14:02:59] <tabularasa> morning peeps
[14:09:33] <Carpe|Diem> mornin
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[14:28:31] <dvsxutact> hey guys, is it possable to set a static VIF to a vm in xenserver 5.6? i am trying to find a way to monitor bandwidth usage for a single vm using snmp, but i am unsure which vif belongs to the vm i'm trying to monitor, and i've read that the vifs are deleted and re-created with a diffrent name when the vm's are rebooted...
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[14:56:16] <KKA> hi
[14:56:41] <KKA> can we convert a CentOS physical server to a virtual server using p2v ?
[14:56:42] <tabularasa> morning
[14:56:54] <tabularasa> hmmm.. i never have..  gonna have to wait for some XenServer guys
[14:57:08] <tabularasa> dvsxutact: not a xenserver guy.. gonna have to wait for some of them to come around
[14:58:28] <KKA> dvsxutact: did you try rebooting the VM?
[14:59:20] <KKA> I don't think they will change regularly, I came across such a situation once or twice but not often :)
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[15:10:32] <dvsxutact> KKA, i didn't try restarting the vm, i haven't even been able to figure out which vif goes with which vm yet lol
[15:14:37] <KKA> http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=242982&tstart=90#1367960 ............. no P2V solution for CentOS :(
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[16:06:14] <gblfxt> an internal IP address sounds incorrect, which setting lists that in the ica?
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[16:40:12] <JarianGibson> yo
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[16:44:35] <tabularasa> hey JarianGibson
[16:45:02] <JarianGibson> hey tabularasa
[16:45:45] <tabularasa> ntuser.dat locking ftl
[16:47:02] <tabularasa> all these profile issues are killing me
[16:47:09] <tabularasa> how freaking much is appsense.... :-/
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[16:49:50] <tabularasa> there needs to be like an uber force delete
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[16:54:20] <gblfxt> cant kill handle?
[16:58:16] <tabularasa> file delete
[16:58:25] <tabularasa> blah blah file is locked and can't be deleted
[17:07:23] <tabularasa> anyone know how much appsense is?
[17:17:47] <gblfxt> we are having profile issues too, seems our citrix guy is looking at tricerat profiles, merely because he had a good experience with their support in printing
[17:21:29] <tabularasa> i can't delete this profile befause G at MOutlookAddin64 dot dll wont unload.. "The I/O operation has been aborted because of either a thread exit or an application request"
[17:33:18] <gblfxt> handle.exe or process explorer was only way i could release a file w/o restarting...
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[19:13:21] <tabularasa> handle.exe?
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[20:25:26] <gblfxt> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896655
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[21:00:22] <tabularasa> gblfxt: hot... thanks
[21:01:34] <kdavy_> tabularasa, doesn't work for network shares :(
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[21:02:32] <tabularasa> doh
[21:03:05] <kdavy_> though of course you could run it on a file server, but then you won't know process name or user
[21:06:33] <tabularasa> yup
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[21:24:46] <gblfxt> ms network monitor or wireshark should show whats using it if its over the network
[21:25:34] <kdavy_> gblfxt, yeah, a network trace will be very useful when you have 20 users on a XenApp box accessing the same file server :-P
[21:25:55] <gblfxt> true that, would probably kill something... :(
[21:26:09] <kdavy_> wouldnt kill anything, just slow things down
[21:26:41] <kdavy_> and unless you already have netmon installed, injecting the NIC minifilter driver may interrupt network connectivity on a production box
[21:27:03] <tabularasa> it would
[21:27:05] <kdavy_> s/may/will
[21:27:21] <tabularasa> not that i know first hand or anything
[21:27:28] * tabularasa whistles...
[21:27:36] <kdavy_> tabularasa, hehe :)
[21:28:14] <gblfxt> ive had ms network monitor mess up some connections on occasion, had better luck w wireshark
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[22:09:09] <splatone> so whats the fasted way to replicate files between two windows boxes
[22:09:28] <splatone> 1.1 million files 90GB.
[22:10:28] <kdavy_> splatone, hot-swap hard drive
[22:10:39] <splatone> kdavy_: uh.. both are on arrays.
[22:10:44] <kdavy_> or robocopy
[22:10:56] <tabularasa> robocopy
[22:10:57] <kdavy_> or hobocopy :)
[22:11:05] <tabularasa> 1.1 million files... lmao
[22:11:15] <tabularasa> you'd certainly want robocopy
[22:11:26] <splatone> robocopy needs to queue better.
[22:11:41] <splatone> All the apps fall flat on there face with large number of small files.
[22:11:54] <splatone> robocopy performs at like 1mb/s or something.
[22:12:16] <kdavy_> splatone, i dont think robocopy is at fault here
[22:12:38] <splatone> kdavy_: well it doesnt tank the processor the hard drive or the network..
[22:12:40] <kdavy_> maybe it's faster to make a tarball on source, copy it and untar?
[22:13:07] <splatone> Uh.. yea.. 22-24hrs to tar it up with 7-ziop.
[22:13:24] <tabularasa> at least robocopy does diffs though, when it crashes
[22:13:26] <kdavy_> what do you expect with 1.1 million files?
[22:14:12] <splatone> something that can queue properly into memory.. Like I said it doesnt hit the network hard the processor hard or the disk hard..  So whats it waiting on.
[22:14:42] <kdavy_> it's waiting on magical unicorns
[22:14:51] <splatone> kdavy_: not sure..
[22:15:13] <splatone> If it pegged out the disk I would understand..
[22:15:21] <kdavy_> probably latency-related
[22:15:52] <kdavy_> 10ms to read each file from source, several ms to transfer, 10ms to confirm it's written at destination, repeat for each file
[22:16:36] <splatone> kdavy_: thats what mulitiple threads are for.
[22:16:37] <kdavy_> there's 8 hours as a quick estimate
[22:17:05] <kdavy_> are you sure copy is multithreaded?
[22:17:18] <kdavy_> actually try FAR - i remember it being really good at copying stuff
[22:18:59] <kdavy_> especially with the Extended File Copy plug0in
[22:21:21] <splatone> kdavy_:http://www.farmanager.com/
[22:21:27] <splatone> is that it?
[22:21:32] <kdavy_> yes
[22:23:30] <kdavy_> play with it - it's a solid file manager
[22:24:37] <splatone> kdavy_: Yea Ive been using total commander for years..
[22:24:45] <splatone> Ill take a look at it.
[22:25:24] <splatone> Should I be looking for a netapp filer or something going forward to hold these files.
[22:25:50] <splatone> I expect them to grow to about 1-5million per customer and we are looking to house 20-30 customers.
[22:27:03] <kdavy_> splatone, play with a nexenta, maybe that'll do
[22:27:15] <kdavy_> NFS over 10Gbe, unless you need CIFS
[22:28:46] <splatone> kdavy_: bandwidth isnt the problem.  Id be happy getting 100MB/s with these stores.
[22:29:21] <kdavy_> splatone, biggest problem will be FS metadata with tons of files in the same folder
[22:29:33] <splatone> they have subfolders.
[22:30:13] <kdavy_> still. you definitely want all metadata cached in RAM - doing 'list contents' from spindles every time sucks
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[22:34:24] <kdavy_> and if it's all small files, you can get away with the free edition and its 18Tb limit
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[22:54:51] <splatone> kdavy_: richcopy..  seems pretty slick.
[22:55:06] <kdavy_> richcopy? never heard
[22:55:23] <splatone> kdavy_: finally hitting this box.  15 threads getting 3.5MB/s
[22:55:50] <kdavy_> hehe
[22:56:38] <kdavy_> i've been messing around with replicating data between sites using bittorrent a while back, dont remember where i stopped
[22:59:26] <splatone> kdavy_: yea will see how dfs handles 1.1 million files.
[23:02:04] <kdavy_> the problem with dfs replication (last i messed with it) was the fact that if replication is interrupted in the middle, it had to start from scratch
[23:02:14] <kdavy_> not sure if this is fixed in 2008 R2
[23:02:31] <kdavy_> right now i'm just replicating with robocopy
[23:03:45] <jduggan> kdavy_: in your opinion if you had 6 drives plus 2 ssds in one pool, would that be `typically` faster if i split it into two pools of 3 drives and one ssd?
[23:03:57] <jduggan> (ZFS on nexenta)
[23:04:36] <kdavy_> jduggan, more drives in the same pool = faster
[23:05:04] <kdavy_> plus the cache is shared so more chance of a relevant hit
[23:05:17] <splatone> jduggan: you have nexenta?
[23:05:33] <splatone> suck.
[23:05:46] <kdavy_> splatone, explain :)
[23:05:51] <jduggan> splatone: only community edition as a poc install, ive put some dev stuff on it
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[23:21:09] <splatone> kdavy_: I dont have one..  a nexenta that is.
[23:21:50] <kdavy_> splatone, so install it in a VM and give it a LUN from your SAN to see how it works
[23:23:06] <kdavy_> i think you can even download a preconfigured virt appliance
[23:47:50] <splatone> kdavy_: yea I dont have any free luns..





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