[00:01:14] *** rev78 has quit IRC [00:02:25] *** TuxOtaku has quit IRC [00:25:43] *** cathederal has quit IRC [00:57:54] *** Gaelfr has joined #Citrix [01:01:03] *** Gaelfr has joined #Citrix [01:01:09] *** Gaelfr has quit IRC [01:07:49] *** AstainW00T has quit IRC [02:09:19] *** jamesd2 has quit IRC [03:31:25] <dvsxutact> hi there, on one of my newest Dedicated servers i have 4 vm's... 2 of the 4 keep loosing internet connectiviy for about 3 minutes at random intervals... i am unsure why this is happening, the vm's are centos 5.x 64bit (all 4 of them are) 2 of them don't have this issue..., i do have xen tools installed, i have tried yum update, i am out of idea's as to why this may be happening... [03:49:22] <kdavy> dvsxutact: are you bonding NICs? [04:04:05] <dvsxutact> no [04:04:25] <dvsxutact> eth0 > public network [04:04:31] <dvsxutact> eth1 > private network [04:04:51] <dvsxutact> each vm gets 2 network cards, eth0 and eth1 for pub and private, no bonding [04:19:09] <kdavy> and they are losing connectivity only on one of the two networks, right? [04:19:17] <dvsxutact> yes [04:19:22] <dvsxutact> private network stays up [04:19:25] <dvsxutact> public network goes down [04:19:31] <dvsxutact> the vm cannot ping out, or be pinged [04:19:43] <dvsxutact> it's like eth0 got unplugged for some reason [04:19:57] <kdavy> by "goes down" does the actual eth interface go down (in the logs)? [04:20:03] <dvsxutact> nope [04:20:08] <dvsxutact> the log files show nothing. [04:20:16] <kdavy> i have no idea what this could be - just trying to help out :) [04:20:46] <dvsxutact> yea, thats kinda where i am, could it be related to the ip's? [04:21:16] <kdavy> doubt it... if it was related to ip conflict you'd see it a lot more frequently [04:22:10] <kdavy> have you seen this post? http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=285452&tstart=0 [04:22:12] <dvsxutact> well the public ip's are "portable" ip's from my datacenter, im wondering if they were maybe provisioned incorrectly, or something stupid like that [04:23:04] <dvsxutact> i had not [04:23:37] <kdavy> seems like XenServer 5.6 FP1 has a lot of complaints on network though... I havent seen any of them because i only have Windows guests [04:23:51] <dvsxutact> oddly enough [04:24:08] <dvsxutact> one of the vm's used to have this issue [04:24:19] <dvsxutact> as soon as it started actually working (having a constant eth load) it stopped [04:24:39] <dvsxutact> let me try that bash script and see if that helps [04:24:42] <dvsxutact> thanks kdavy [04:25:42] <kdavy> no problem :) [04:33:46] *** stormlight has quit IRC [05:21:02] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix [05:29:21] *** stormlight has quit IRC [06:31:50] *** AstainHellbring has joined #Citrix [06:41:28] *** KKA1 has left #Citrix [06:54:42] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix [07:09:06] *** stormlight has quit IRC [07:13:21] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix [07:19:34] *** stormlight has quit IRC [08:14:54] *** KKA has quit IRC [08:15:48] *** KKA has joined #Citrix [09:16:15] *** HyperJohnGraham has quit IRC [11:11:08] *** AstainHellbring has quit IRC [12:20:26] *** Trixboxer has joined #Citrix [13:09:22] <KKA> on my xen server iscsi-iname shows one name and on XenCenter I see a different iqn, should they be same? [14:22:52] *** Carpe|Diem has joined #Citrix [14:23:05] <Carpe|Diem> I have configured pass-through authentication for my internal users [14:23:25] <Carpe|Diem> however, if i let my users access my citrix web interface from outside of your network, the website still tries to pass-through the users [14:23:32] <Carpe|Diem> this should be explicit login, however [14:23:40] <Carpe|Diem> how can i make a difference between these two enviroments? [15:08:09] *** rev78 has joined #Citrix [15:09:56] *** Marc__ has joined #Citrix [15:16:50] *** cathederal has joined #Citrix [15:18:30] *** KaiForce has joined #Citrix [15:18:46] *** Marc__ has quit IRC [15:23:50] <Rienzilla> anyone here? [15:24:31] *** cathederal has quit IRC [15:24:39] *** cathederal has joined #Citrix [15:25:28] <Carpe|Diem> I am [15:25:31] *** uncon has quit IRC [15:27:44] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix [15:28:22] <Rienzilla> my xenserver is running a guest which is down according to the toolstack [15:28:26] <Rienzilla> and if I boot it with the toolstack i'll have two?? [15:30:18] <Carpe|Diem> i have no idea, never used xenserver [15:30:28] <Carpe|Diem> im a xenapp admin only [15:35:55] <KaiForce> Xenapp 5 - I can run 2008 x86 or x64, but not R2, correct? [15:37:21] <tabularasa> correct [15:37:39] <tabularasa> Carpe|Diem: welcome [15:38:22] <Carpe|Diem> tabularasa: ty [15:39:56] <Carpe|Diem> tabularasa: your nickname reminds me of a song [15:39:59] *** uncon has joined #Citrix [15:41:43] <KaiForce> How different is R2? If I put a test 2008 x64 server up, and use it for testing fully installed versions of apps, would the knowledge gained be of use on R2? [15:43:46] <tabularasa> not really [15:43:47] <KaiForce> I think if there is value in that, it will help me bridge to Xenapp 6 [15:43:49] <tabularasa> R2 is totally different [15:43:58] <tabularasa> its like vista vs 7 different [15:44:09] <KaiForce> OK [15:44:20] <KaiForce> tabularasa: ty [15:44:24] <tabularasa> yup [15:44:34] <tabularasa> Looks like i'm confirmed for Citrix Summit/Synergy this year in SanFran [15:44:40] <tabularasa> makson: I need some shirts!! [16:38:14] <tabularasa> kdavy: you around? [16:39:07] <JarianGibson> morning [16:42:00] <tabularasa> morning [16:50:10] <gblfxt> well, in r2, they have built in support for encrypted ftp, its like looking into the future [16:50:24] <tabularasa> which version? the terrible FTPS ? [16:50:36] <tabularasa> FTPS blows... sftp ftw [16:51:24] <gblfxt> my sarcasm didnt carry over? stupid internets :) [16:51:58] <tabularasa> heh [17:12:30] <splatone> tabularasa: Whats the pricing for synergy? [17:12:42] <splatone> I might be able to go. [17:14:56] <pak21> http://www.citrixsynergy.com/sanfrancisco/venue/registration.html [17:16:36] <splatone> tabularasa: are they doing one in florida later this year? [17:16:43] <makson> :( Morning all... i won't be going to synergy this year.. [17:17:05] <JarianGibson> makson: fail [17:17:07] <makson> tabularasa: I can get them made up, just need some $$$ :) we can all pitch in a bit get a few made up. [17:17:11] <makson> JarianGibson: ya.. mickey mouse. [17:18:54] <JarianGibson> how much $$$ you need? [17:20:04] <makson> JarianGibson: I would have to get a quote from the lady, see how much it would be for like 10-20 shirts. [17:20:37] <JarianGibson> ok [17:20:43] <JarianGibson> i will throw some $$$ in [17:20:54] <makson> nice [17:23:16] <zaf> anyone using storagelink with EQL? [17:24:14] <JarianGibson> pvs wizard for xd5 is nice but room for improvement [17:24:41] <JarianGibson> creates catalog but not desktop group [17:24:59] <makson> who else in here is using XD5? [17:25:09] <JarianGibson> i am [17:25:56] <makson> JarianGibson: do you see studio as being slow when creating new catalog, or adding users to destop group? i always see the please wait window... its dog slow. [17:26:45] <JarianGibson> i am not seeing slowness right now [17:26:47] <JarianGibson> pretty snappy [17:27:17] <makson> really... im going to uninstall that mickey mouse anti-virus then try again :) [17:27:53] <pak21> The speed of creating a catalog is basically dependent on how long it takes to create the golden master, which is almost entirely dependent on your storage speed. [17:28:03] <JarianGibson> that's mcs [17:28:07] <JarianGibson> pvs different [17:28:10] <JarianGibson> which i am using [17:28:16] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [17:28:17] <JarianGibson> so what are you using makson ? [17:28:38] * pak21 lives too much in the MCS world :-) [17:28:52] <makson> pak21: i'm talking about before it gets to that point... I mean I right click on machines click create catalog and wait a full min [17:28:55] <makson> if not more [17:29:11] <pak21> Ouch. [17:29:14] <pak21> Never seen that. [17:29:32] <makson> pak21: yah, hoping it's just virus scanner, im going to remove it and see if i see speed increase. then i can tweak it after. [17:29:40] <makson> pak21: are you familar with upm ? [17:30:04] <pak21> Nope. [17:31:04] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [17:31:07] <JarianGibson> pvs wizard seems rushed [17:31:23] <JarianGibson> i like that it is out. going to wrote a blog about some feedback for it [17:32:01] <JarianGibson> need to test it more with vmware and xenserver. doing some testing with hyper-v [17:32:02] <makson> pak21: haev u worked with pvs wizard? [17:32:27] <pak21> Nope. [17:32:44] <JarianGibson> pak21: you a consultant, admin, etc? [17:32:50] <pak21> Citrix engineer :-) [17:33:04] <JarianGibson> you work for citrix? [17:33:08] <pak21> Yep. [17:33:22] <JarianGibson> nice. support side or consulting side? [17:33:33] <pak21> Engineering. I wrote large chunks of Desktop Studio :-) [17:33:40] <JarianGibson> nice [17:33:50] <makson> pak21: lol... guess you don't like my slow comments hehe [17:34:00] <JarianGibson> so what's your take on mcs? [17:34:14] <makson> pak21: that's cool though, how did u find the channel? [17:34:27] <JarianGibson> i have seen and heard stuff from citrix peeps about using it more for poc and dedicated but do everything else on pvs [17:34:36] <makson> form what i heardd MCS isn't as scalable due to the diff file, and master being required to be on the same disk, can't split them up. [17:34:53] <JarianGibson> i saw blog that citrix tested up to 2k desktops with mcs [17:35:02] <pak21> http://community.citrix.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=161743115 [17:35:12] <pak21> which is from the XenDesktop architect [17:35:43] <pak21> At the moment, MCS requires about 1.6x the IOPS of PVS. But hopefully IntelliCache will reduce that. [17:36:23] <JarianGibson> yep read that one [17:36:39] <JarianGibson> so will intellicache benefit mcs more than pvs? [17:36:44] <JarianGibson> or both equally? [17:36:48] <pak21> The 2k limit is just what we'd tested when XD5 was released. MCS definitely scales higher than that, but we don't have reference architectures etc to recommend to clients yet. [17:37:38] <pak21> IntelliCache will benefit MCS a lot more than PVS - PVS already has its write cache, whereas IntelliCache will fill that role for MCS. [17:37:44] *** AstainHellbring has joined #Citrix [17:37:49] <JarianGibson> good, that's what i thought [17:37:58] <pak21> (I'm not even sure PVS will use IntelliCache at all) [17:38:00] <makson> Intellicache = xenserver only right? [17:38:16] <pak21> Correct. [17:38:21] <makson> I hope PVS changed the way they currently manage images... 50MB change, and the whole entire vdisk needs to be replicated. [17:38:27] <makson> *changes [17:38:38] <pak21> Can't really comment on that - PVS is a different engineering team. [17:38:43] <makson> the whole image management for PVS is quite a pain, i heard though there will be some updates on this. [17:38:44] <JarianGibson> good point makson [17:39:07] <makson> thanks :) [17:39:21] <JarianGibson> will you guys have some numbers on mcs benefits with and without mcs? [17:39:37] <JarianGibson> i mean with and without intellicache? [17:40:11] <pak21> I'd hope so! [17:40:28] <pak21> I know our scalability guys are testing it. [17:40:31] <JarianGibson> will intellicache benefit pvs at all? [17:40:43] <pak21> No - it won't even use it. [17:40:50] <JarianGibson> ok [17:41:34] <makson> would be cool to see the scalability testing center [17:41:37] <makson> i bet it's pretty slick. [17:41:59] <makson> WOW! NIGHT and DAY when AV is removed. [17:42:02] <makson> : [17:42:04] <makson> :\ [17:42:19] <pak21> A lot of it is done with simulated workloads, so it's not as impressive as you might think. [17:43:03] <makson> pak21: yah, login VSI, just would like to see hardware and how all the testing is done an documented. [17:43:30] <makson> pak21: are there anti-virus recommendations for DDC ? [17:44:08] <pak21> For the DDC? Have it on an isolated network and don't run any would be my way of doing things. [17:44:38] <pak21> I don't think we have any official recommendations. [17:45:34] <makson> pak21: agreed, This is a POC so not on isolated network. [17:45:39] <JarianGibson> that's what i am tlaking about [17:47:40] <pak21> About the only advice I can give then is don't use whatever you were using as it's a bad idea! [17:48:13] <JarianGibson> anyone test ag vpx 5.0.2 with receivers? [17:48:34] <pak21> Quick question for you guys: what's the one bug you would really, really like fixed in XD5? (No promises it will be fixed!) [17:49:48] <zaf> for microsoft to allow SPLA hosting on their desktop OS ;) [17:50:38] <pak21> Not really something we can fix, that one! [17:50:56] <JarianGibson> i like the pvs wizard but needs some improvement [17:51:22] <JarianGibson> here is one. how to do persistent date with mcs [17:51:35] <pak21> Pooled desktops? [17:51:45] <JarianGibson> how do you handle edgesight data if not using agent database broker [17:51:47] <JarianGibson> exactly [17:52:10] <JarianGibson> can't really do a static disk like in pvs for that stuff can you? [17:52:29] <JarianGibson> unless edgesight 5.4 has some big changes [17:52:38] <pak21> You can store data on the identity disk MCS uses to store the unique ID for each machine. [17:52:52] <pak21> However... that's only 16Mb, so not much good for anything. [17:52:57] <JarianGibson> exactly [17:54:05] <JarianGibson> our if you want other persistent data [17:54:13] <pak21> A *completely unsupported* solution is to modify the VHD template to be bigger. C:\Program Files\Citrix\MachineIdentity\Service\PvsVmTemplate.vhd [17:54:29] <pak21> Remember what I said about *completely unsupported* [17:54:38] <JarianGibson> yes, attempt at your won risk [17:54:42] <pak21> This will also make rolling out new machines *slow* and *eat lots of space*. [17:55:10] <JarianGibson> this on master image right? [17:55:46] <pak21> No, a copy of that disk with a tiny amount of data added is uploaded at VM creation time for every new VM. [17:56:06] <JarianGibson> ok [17:57:22] <pak21> It's what becomes the D: disk on your VMs [17:58:33] <nitram> pak21: get radius auth integrated in the gui [17:59:03] <JarianGibson> anything you can do via powershell should be in gui. that's another thing i would like to see [17:59:11] <nitram> and allow for radius client auth without webinterface ;) [17:59:48] <pak21> JarianGibson: you probably don't. You can set the system up in so many strange ways with PowerShell if you want to that the GUI would be unusable if every option was available. [18:00:23] <pak21> That said, our product management guys are very willing to admit that certain additional features should be in the GUI if customers tell them so. [18:01:20] <JarianGibson> maybe not everything but things like modifying desktop groups/catalog settings should be [18:01:27] <JarianGibson> power management, reboot, etc in all of them [18:01:36] <JarianGibson> assignment stuff [18:01:51] <JarianGibson> some of that stuff is not in gui but powershell [18:01:58] <pak21> Most of that should be available: is there anything specific you're looking for? [18:02:13] <nitram> the current way of configuring two-factor authentication with radius is inconsistent. i can setup the radius server in the gui but not the radisu secret. [18:02:18] <JarianGibson> then main stuff is things you could do in the xd4 in console should be in xd5 console not have to be done via powershell [18:02:36] <pak21> Any specific examples? [18:02:59] <pak21> Some things have been dropped, but generally because our user feedback was that those options weren't actually used. [18:03:54] <JarianGibson> mainly some of the power maqnagement and assignment [18:04:20] <JarianGibson> it is there in some but all [18:04:53] <pak21> If you can give me a specific point, I can see what product management think of it. [18:05:59] <makson> JarianGibson: that's a good point about the persistent data... [18:06:58] <JarianGibson> like reboot in logoff or shutdown in console instead of posh [18:07:24] <makson> JarianGibson: what makes the disk persistent vs no persistent? is it just a flag in a config file.. if you master disk had an additional HD which had persistent data on it, it would be nice if there was an option to make that part of the disk persistant. [18:07:26] *** AstainHellbring has quit IRC [18:07:57] <JarianGibson> or even have that optoin with mcs [18:07:57] <pak21> makson: MCS supports only one disk (plus the identity disk), so that's not going to work. [18:08:34] <pak21> JarianGibson: what's your use case for changing reboot on logoff? (and for which catalog type?) [18:08:51] <JarianGibson> pak21: we had a meeting back in feb with some of the stuff i am talking about with product management [18:08:55] <JarianGibson> looking for my notes [18:12:31] <JarianGibson> right now for pooled it shutsdown but you have to control that thru posh. things like should be in gui as well [18:13:31] <pak21> That's something our security guys will _not_ let us change - the shutdown is necessary to allow the previous user's data to be thrown away. [18:13:45] <JarianGibson> i get that [18:13:46] <JarianGibson> then [18:14:21] <splatone> tabularasa: Got a minute? [18:15:10] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [18:15:39] <makson> pak21: how would you handle persisitent data then with MCS? [18:15:50] <makson> not sure if you covered that already? [18:16:37] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [18:21:27] <pak21> makson: there isn't really a solution right now. [18:21:44] <JarianGibson> will there be? [18:22:57] <pak21> It's something we've seen a number of requests for, so I wouldn't be surprised if it appears at some point in the future. [18:23:17] <pak21> (That isn't the sort of decision I get to make though, so don't take what I say here as being definitive in any way) [18:24:34] <JarianGibson> i never do [18:24:42] <JarianGibson> until it is released [18:25:03] <splatone> access gateway enterprise is the only way to get multiple domains/farms to authenticate to a single point correct? [18:25:45] <JarianGibson> i don't know about that but i know it will cause you less headaches than cag 5.0 [18:26:05] <splatone> Yea im playing with 5.x now. [18:26:21] <JarianGibson> logonpoints are horrible in 5.0 [18:26:27] <splatone> for our large customers 50+ users we want to put them on there own domain. [18:26:44] <splatone> 5.02 fixed some issues with pnagent so it works again. [18:26:44] <JarianGibson> also the 5.0.2 doesn't fix issues with receives still [18:26:50] <JarianGibson> not all the way [18:26:53] <JarianGibson> still issues [18:27:03] <splatone> really whats still broken? [18:27:21] <JarianGibson> still seeing issues with anything but ipad [18:27:39] <JarianGibson> worked with another engineer i work with on this [18:27:47] <JarianGibson> opened a support ticket as well [18:28:02] <splatone> friend of mine set it up and has it working against a xoom, ipad, iphone pnagent with 5.02 [18:28:31] <JarianGibson> depends on how long points are seteup [18:29:15] <splatone> I believe he has the web interface in a frame and has AG as the authentication piont. [18:33:04] <splatone> I think to do what I want with multiple domains Im going to need netscaler enterprise vpx. [18:33:12] <splatone> although I could be wrong. [18:38:06] <JarianGibson> pvs and xd5 having fun with multi domain issues [18:38:17] <JarianGibson> like http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=278655&start=15&tstart=0 [18:38:29] <makson> ha, yah i saw those issues. [18:38:44] <JarianGibson> fix not out yet [18:38:48] <JarianGibson> playing with lmhosts file [18:39:13] <JarianGibson> splatone: issue was with iphone that it had to be default login pooint to work [18:39:50] <JarianGibson> splatone: weird anrdoid issues as well connecting [18:43:15] <makson> JarianGibson: tested with i[ad and that works. [18:43:36] *** Alasdairrr has joined #Citrix [18:44:20] <Alasdairrr> Hi all - we're currently writing a system which uses the Citrix XenServer API to automatically create VMs [18:44:37] <Alasdairrr> However one question we've got is how to handle setting up the networking inside VMs after provisioning them from a template [18:45:38] <Alasdairrr> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do this for both Linux and Windows? DHCP is one option, but its a bit clunky - on Solaris with Solaris Containers, you can simply do the IP config from the host machine, but we can't think of a clean way of doing this with Windows/Linux [18:48:15] <splatone> jarianGibson: so same issue where default login point works great everything else is crap. [18:54:19] <splatone> It might be better just to go to Netscaler vpx.. [19:22:59] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [19:26:22] <zaf> Alasdairrr, pretty sure all the ip stuff is read-only. dhcp might be your cleanest option [19:26:53] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [19:26:55] <Alasdairrr> blah, that sucks [19:27:00] <zaf> unless you want to deal with some sort of first-run scripts that query an external source and write out the options to static configs [19:31:00] <JarianGibson> splatone: yep, also had to break ha [19:32:25] <JarianGibson> it's 2011 please stop using netbios in programs [19:37:18] <splatone> jarianGibson: which netscaler do I need? [19:37:30] <splatone> all im looking for is the AG features pretty much. [19:37:38] <splatone> But I need multiple domains if possible. [19:39:56] <splatone> Does AGEE come with NS standard. [19:55:33] <JarianGibson> vpx does [19:55:41] <JarianGibson> you can buy appliance in agee mode [19:56:03] <JarianGibson> all netscaler appliances come in agee mode until you install netscaler license [19:57:16] <splatone> Im on csp.. [19:57:36] <splatone> although having some issues downloading the license from citrix. [20:01:20] <JarianGibson> i should say all physical do [20:01:34] <JarianGibson> i can't remember if vpx does or not [20:02:28] <splatone> yea Im trying to allocate the license's and it keeps blowing license server name error.. [20:02:49] <Rienzilla> wow this was pretty evil [20:03:27] <Rienzilla> xenserver for some reason booted a snapshot of one of the vm's, without it being visible in xe or xencenter [20:09:29] <gblfxt> Client printer auto-creation failed [20:10:15] <gblfxt> trying to find a gp error in the logs and only finding those [20:10:44] <gblfxt> always... Client printer auto-creation failed [20:11:01] <gblfxt> not unsimilar to the everglades [20:11:23] <gblfxt> Client printer auto-creation failed is the everglades of citrix error logs [20:12:59] <gblfxt> public static boolean isInternalUser(WIContext wiContext) { [20:13:13] <gblfxt> boolean isInternal = false; [20:13:28] <gblfxt> String strIP; [20:13:43] <gblfxt> WebAbstraction web = wiContext.getWebAbstraction(); [20:13:58] <gblfxt> strIP = "" + web.getRequestHeader("x-forwarded-for"); [20:14:11] <gblfxt> if (strIP.Equals("") || strIP.Equals("null")) { [20:14:25] <gblfxt> strIP = web.getUserHostAddress(); [20:14:38] <gblfxt> } [20:14:49] <gblfxt> String ipOctets[] = strIpAddress.Split(new char[] {'.'}); [20:15:03] [20:15:16] <gblfxt> (strIP.StartsWith("159.140.") || (strIP.StartsWith("69.234.") { [20:15:28] <gblfxt> isInternal = true; [20:15:41] <gblfxt> return isInternal; [20:25:48] <gblfxt> word is horrible to code in, dont know why this java came in a word document [20:41:31] <splatone> tabularasa: which hotel are you staying at in sanfran for synergy? [20:42:32] <tabularasa> i don't think its been scheduled yet [20:43:09] <splatone> hmm hotels are not cheap there. [20:43:17] <splatone> $250-290 a night. [20:43:28] <tabularasa> yup, they were aware of that when they signed me up [20:43:28] <tabularasa> you going? [20:43:35] <splatone> I might.. [20:43:42] <tabularasa> that'd be sweet [20:43:50] <splatone> Hell yea it would. [20:44:14] <tabularasa> make that happen [20:44:17] <tabularasa> i'm pretty much committied now [20:44:18] <splatone> did you pay full rate? [20:45:38] <tabularasa> nfc... they did everything for me [20:48:00] * Rienzilla is developing a serious grudge against xenserver :( [20:49:44] <tabularasa> yup, i already have one [20:50:52] <Rienzilla> now suddenly my networks have disappeared from my xenserver after trying to update a vm guests mac address... [20:53:43] *** Rebbie has joined #Citrix [20:53:46] <Rebbie> hi [20:54:00] <Rebbie> anyone familiar with xenserver storage level fast disk clone [20:54:09] <Rebbie> if i delete the original template are all VM [20:54:26] <Rebbie> that are cloned from it now unusable? [20:54:51] <Rienzilla> I think a fast-disk-clone only makes a copy on write snapshot [20:55:02] <Rienzilla> so if you delete the underlying image then the clone will be gne as well [20:55:06] <Rienzilla> gone* [20:56:26] <gblfxt> sucks that licensing is per vm vs per user [20:56:32] <Rienzilla> put /home/rien/tmp/Y_11_16.swi primary [20:56:35] <Rienzilla> whops [20:56:39] <Rienzilla> disregard that [21:04:03] <splatone> hmm... citrix partners get a cheaper rate. [21:08:25] <splatone> csp is citrix partner :) [21:08:30] <tabularasa> cool [21:09:57] <splatone> Now are you going to the summit too. [21:10:08] <splatone> tabularasa: http://www.citrixsummit.com/sanfrancisco/agenda/registration.html [21:10:52] <splatone> its the 23-24th. [21:11:12] <splatone> for partners its 1095 for both. [21:11:22] <tabularasa> yeah, i'm going monday - thursday [21:12:30] <Rebbie> i just tried a test where i deleted the template but the VM continues to run [21:13:05] <Rebbie> any ideas? [21:13:15] <Rebbie> doesn't behave how i would expect [21:15:21] <splatone> tabularasa: you flying in on sunday night? [21:15:43] <tabularasa> most likely [21:29:51] <splatone> tabularsa: Yea I might actually go. [21:29:58] <tabularasa> that'd be sweet [21:29:59] <splatone> Will see what the brass think. [21:30:06] <tabularasa> makson: make with the shirts! :) [21:30:07] <splatone> Yea that would be titties. [21:30:40] <splatone> tabularasa: Yea my shirts a little small. either that or I need to hit the gym more. [21:33:59] <JarianGibson> i know i need to go to the gym more [21:34:05] <JarianGibson> i am going to summit [21:34:16] <tabularasa> splatone: i have the large, and its huge [21:34:19] <tabularasa> JarianGibson: yeah? nice [21:34:31] <JarianGibson> synergy or whatever you call it [21:35:55] <tabularasa> summit/synergy [21:40:47] <tabularasa> that'd be totally sweet [21:40:53] <tabularasa> citrixirc reunion [21:41:23] <splatone> I give my chances at going at about 50% [21:58:14] *** alexdou has joined #Citrix [21:59:23] <JarianGibson> fail [21:59:30] <JarianGibson> wrong window [21:59:32] *** Rebbie has quit IRC [22:01:13] <makson> tabularasa: I cant go... :( [22:06:27] *** stormlight has quit IRC [22:17:02] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix [22:20:07] *** Trixboxer has quit IRC [23:09:04] *** KaiForce has quit IRC [23:49:49] <kdavy_> what a day... [23:49:57] <kdavy_> i need a nap