April 13, 2011  
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[00:00:52] <zaf> LedHed, you need to use the CentOS template and use a network install path, not an ISO
[00:02:06] <LedHed> zaf, ok.  is there a URL that I can install from?  What I did was dl the ISO and mount it on my webserver, then point the template there.
[00:03:42] <zaf> LedHed, that's what you need to do. not sure what's going wrong then, but the installer should know that it's PVM from the start
[00:03:58] <zaf> after I did my first one, i just saved it as a template to clone from for all my subsequent ones
[00:04:18] <LedHed> zaf, ya.. thats what I did for Ubuntu 10.04
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[04:58:33] <jono-> anyone configured windows storage server or just server 2008 R2 for use as NFS SR?
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[14:40:00] <lonnie{C}> hello
[14:40:02] <lonnie{C}> ???
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[15:44:10] <cathederal> ?
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[16:08:03] <gblfxt> hello lonnie
[16:19:28] <tabularasa> morning
[16:28:20] <kdavy_> morning indeed
[16:29:22] <kreign> kdavy_, you ping'd last night?
[16:33:36] <kdavy_> kreign, ya i already forgot why
[16:34:03] <kreign> kdavy, heh something relating to hardware, maybe?
[16:34:55] <kdavy_> no, dont think so
[16:35:27] <kreign> hmm linux?
[16:35:35] <kreign> (this is more fun than what I'm supposed to be doing)
[16:38:14] <jduggan> guys
[16:38:27] <jduggan> 2008 r2 has some stupid apps pinned to the taskbar in teh default user
[16:38:37] <jduggan> do any of you know how to remove it for new users automagically
[16:38:59] <kdavy_> jduggan, i'm sure you can find a registry hack
[16:39:12] <jduggan> youd be surprised how many people ring to ask what this powershell thing is on their start bar
[16:42:26] <gladier> http://www.kolltveit.org/?p=265
[16:42:34] <gladier> kinda a sucky solution
[16:42:35] <gladier> but meh
[16:43:43] <kreign> can't customize the default profile?
[16:43:54] <gladier> nah becasuse it's done upon first login
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[16:48:23] <kdavy_> oh, so i got a nice deal on some blade servers. three IBM XS21XM's, dual Xeon 5440, 16Gb ram - $900 per blade
[16:49:15] <kdavy_> they'll make great ESXi boxes
[16:51:11] <kreign> kdavy, nice
[16:51:36] <kdavy_> yep. they're even getting delivered to my office in person, for free
[16:53:42] <kdavy_> i don't know where this guy gets all the equipment (it's a computer recycling company), but sometimes i wonder if it's legit :)
[16:53:51] <kreign> kdavy, huh. craigslist?
[16:54:00] <kreign> kdavy, I doubt it :)
[16:54:09] <kreign> kdavy, how far are you from rackspace? :P
[16:54:35] <kdavy_> kreign, no, i found him on eBay (originally got those Xyratex FC JBODs from him), but since then i asked him to email me if he has some cool stuff
[16:55:02] <kreign> huh.
[16:55:14] <kdavy_> right now he also has a RamSAN, a BladeCenter H and four Cisco 3012 Bladecenter switches
[16:55:51] <kdavy_> that's the same guy who was selling the old IBM 2U servers a while back
[16:56:38] <kreign> huh
[16:57:14] <kdavy_> kreign, i'm about 25 minutes away from Rackspace, if it is where i think it is
[16:57:25] <kreign> kdavy, would you say $900/mo is a good deal for a full rack, power included, with a 100Mbit link is a good deal? (from cogent, no less)
[16:57:48] <kdavy_> hmm. how much power included?
[16:57:56] <kreign> pretty sure it's flat metered.
[16:58:24] <kdavy_> kreign, no, how many amps per circuit and how many circuits?
[16:58:40] <kreign> ahh
[16:58:43] <kreign> that I'm not sure of.
[16:58:54] <kreign> i've got a brochure around here somewhere, maybe
[16:59:01] <kreign> i heard of it second hand
[16:59:04] <kdavy_> 100Mbit from Cogent is normally $400 i think, but in this case it might be overprovisioned
[16:59:15] <kreign> yeah, that's true.
[16:59:26] <kreign> IIRC it's a new-customers-only deal.
[16:59:37] <kreign> so they're probably counting on most of the racks to remain underprovisioned
[16:59:43] <kdavy_> i bet it's gonna be one 20-amp circuit or something stupid like that
[17:00:00] <kreign> you can maybe sorta pull off a single rack on 20 amps.
[17:00:14] <kdavy_> not a rack full of BladeCenters :)
[17:00:17] <tabularasa> customer wants some numbers around pods
[17:00:22] <tabularasa> smaller pods
[17:00:22] <kreign> ... no.
[17:00:31] <kreign> probably not.
[17:00:44] <kreign> kdavy, how many amps does a full rack of blades suck, anyway? :)
[17:00:56] <kdavy_> kreign, a metric fuckton
[17:01:06] <kreign> kdavy, at any rate it sounds like an outright steal to me, compared to what I"ve seen other places
[17:01:17] <kdavy_> think 24 kW at full power
[17:01:26] <kdavy_> (don't feel like converting into amps)
[17:01:35] <kreign> heh
[17:01:40] <kreign> damn that is quite a bit. ;|
[17:01:56] <kdavy_> yeah
[17:02:13] <kdavy_> tabularasa, how much smaller pods? you can still use my Mac Mini idea :)
[17:02:37] <kreign> kdavy, what idea was that?
[17:02:54] <kreign> tabularasa, say, about the size of a packing crate? :P
[17:03:04] <kdavy_> kreign, stacks of Mac Mini Server, with XenServer on top
[17:03:14] <kreign> :|
[17:04:16] <kreign> tabularasa, thinking of something like these containers: http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/large_image.asp?sku=5031608&img=5031600.jpg
[17:04:33] <kreign> can't recall what they're called
[17:04:45] <kreign> but they're stackable and fit on palettes
[17:05:10] <kreign> tabularasa, there's also the mobile rack.
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[17:06:50] <kdavy_> kreign, i think tabularasa is talking about a little bit larger pods than that :)
[17:06:57] <kreign> tabularasa, ie the 19" rack towers used by "audio professionals" for band gigs.
[17:07:01] <kdavy_> i'd assume 1-3 racks per pod
[17:07:06] <kreign> kdavy, well, he said 'smaller' :)
[17:08:01] <kdavy_> kreign, "smaller" is relative, unless something is specified for comparison
[17:08:39] <kreign> heh
[17:08:40] <kdavy_> in this case original pod size was assumed to hold 5k XenDesktops, so "something smaller" might be 2k - 2,5k
[17:08:51] <kreign> ah
[17:09:03] <kreign> tabularasa, sounds like you've got yourself some awesome projects going on.
[17:09:18] <kreign> tabularasa, heat isle, cooling, etc. all included in the pod?
[17:19:34] <tabularasa> yeah, i'm not too sure yet
[17:19:36] <tabularasa> and no
[17:19:44] <tabularasa> they want a 500-1000 user "pod"
[17:19:55] <tabularasa> they know its gonna cost more, but they want to know how much more
[17:24:44] <kdavy_> tabularasa, uhh a 500-1000 user 'pod' can be fit into a single BladeCenter
[17:25:01] <kdavy_> plus a storage shelf
[17:28:23] <tabularasa> yeah, i just think its silly, but i need to work on the design
[17:32:51] <kdavy_> tabularasa, man i wish i had your project :)
[17:33:10] <tabularasa> yeah, most people do.  :)
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[17:52:57] <JarianGibson> me too
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[18:26:16] <splatone> tabularasa: are you going with IBM bladecenter?
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[18:27:07] <KKA> hi
[18:27:25] <kdavy_> hi
[18:28:48] <KKA> can anyone let me know how to remove an access disk virtual mapping from a out of band managed MD3000i
[18:29:49] <KKA> I have this with me http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX116541
[18:30:11] <KKA> but I am not able to remove it
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[18:39:11] <tabularasa> splatone: no
[19:06:30] <kreign> kdavy, you're on cogent aren't you?
[19:06:57] <kreign> kdavy, I hear rumour of a colo hosting special this month, wondering if you've seen/heard anything of it.
[19:15:46] <kdavy_> kreign, we use cogent for L2 point to point (fractional GigE), and as primary at the DR site. At main colo, we load balance across 5 ISPs
[19:16:13] <kreign> kdavy, heh
[19:16:16] <kdavy_> (facility already provides the load-balanced hookup)
[19:16:20] <kreign> kdavy, you aware of an April special?
[19:16:24] <kreign> i heard of one but can't find any info on it now
[19:16:26] <kdavy_> its fucking expensive though... $100+/Mbps
[19:16:43] <kdavy_> kreign, no, we are in a different facility
[19:16:48] <kreign> yeah that's "the good deal" we've got here.
[19:22:50] <gblfxt> what you all use for file transfer? currently we use the windows explorer on xenapp, looking at something more user friendly
[19:24:42] <kreign> gblfxt, that's a vague question.
[19:29:05] <gblfxt> well, people have requested dropbox, but i know thats full of security holes, and we have setup sftp for larger file (2+gb)
[19:31:36] <kdavy_> gblfxt, ftps/sftp is good
[19:32:07] <kdavy_> or you could use a 3rd party that's more secure than dropbox (but also more expensive) - for example datamotion
[19:32:36] <kdavy_> or hack together your own web upload site using something open-source
[19:33:53] <gblfxt> kdavy, thanks, sounds like the website way/sftp is the way to go, just checking to see if there was a more standard option first
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[19:36:39] <kdavy_> gblfxt, not really... sftp is the most straightforward way if you want domain integration; website works better if links and password combos need to be given to 3rd parties
[19:37:08] <kdavy_> you could also do sharepoint, but that's completely overkill for this :)
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[19:58:21] <AstainW00T> Hi question on provisioning services
[19:58:54] <AstainW00T> got a machine that gets the full pxe and starts the booting process but hangs on login to to provisioning services streaming server
[20:23:39] <kdavy_> quick q... do perpetual XenApp licenses (CALs, core server, or otherwise) include any kind of a support plan, or do companies still have to purchase an incident pack?
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[20:34:04] <KaiForce> has anyone gotten Network Level Authentication working in Server 2003 RDC?
[20:42:19] <tabularasa> AstainW00T: vSphere or Xen
[20:43:37] <AstainW00T> xen
[20:43:53] <AstainW00T> vdisk boot
[20:46:34] <tabularasa> screenshot?
[20:47:46] <AstainW00T> tabularasa no screenshot of a physical machine in booting process I could take a pic
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[21:17:58] <KKA1> can anyone let me know how to remove an access disk virtual mapping from a out of band managed MD3000i
[21:18:12] <KKA1> I have this with me http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX116541
[21:18:27] <KKA1> but I am not able to remove it
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[21:36:32] <kdavy_> lol. someone's about to get fired... idiots
[22:15:48] <splatone> Anyone published google chrome in seemless mode?
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[22:33:37] <kdavy_> splatone, does it even work on terminal servers?
[22:34:01] <kdavy_> i remember screwing with it for hours but could never get a ThinApp of it to work... it'd just crash
[22:34:12] <kdavy_> that was a while back though, end of 2008 i think
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[22:42:26] <drumline_> Anyone know if XenCenter can be contacted for VM statistics via powershell in the same way that vCenter can be contacted via Powershell?
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[22:55:39] <splatone> kdavy_: I think it works if your publishing a desktop..
[22:58:26] <splatone> during the access controller server install for access gateway do you specify the xa db name or create a new access controller db?
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