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[21:36:09] <gblfxt> uses visual c++ or vb.. :-/
[21:36:21] <kdavy> who? what?
[21:37:11] <gblfxt> i was looking over sdk's for citrix....
[21:37:16] <kdavy> ah
[21:38:08] <kdavy> which SDK is that? the .NET sdk for XenServer is really good, and allows me to use csharp
[21:39:22] <gblfxt> im trying to find ways to improve performance specifically for our environment, i was checking out what i could access, the powershell sdk has some nice stuff, but performance is a problem for implementing accross the board
[21:42:18] <kdavy> performance of what specifically?
[21:43:24] <gblfxt> im hoping to write something that will run specific programs and setup certain alerts when connections are not acting correctly
[21:45:12] <kdavy> depending on how complex the "specific programs" are and if they accept parameters, it sounds like a proper monitoring suite is what you need
[21:46:48] <gblfxt> perhaps, its seems a bit overkill for a full on monitoring suite?
[21:47:19] <kdavy> it's never overkill, you can always find other uses for the monitoring suite
[21:47:40] <kdavy> maybe outside the scope of your project, but still
[21:52:33] <gblfxt> this is true, it will save in the long run, we are still somewhat of a new company though, and trying to keep costs to the end user down, im not sure how much of a performance hit the systems will take with a full on monitoring suite
[21:55:40] <makson> kdavy_: gblfxt what about edge sight?
[21:56:11] <makson> enterrpise includes basic version and there are a lot of features with the basic, most folks don't know that basic agent is included with enterprise i found this out the other day
[21:57:22] <gblfxt> oh? i didnt know it came w enterprise... :)
[21:57:50] <makson> gblfxt: hehe, here 1 second. i'll send over the feature list.
[21:58:13] <makson> http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/index.jsp?topic=/edgesight53/es-feature-by-agent-type.html
[21:58:16] <makson> see that
[21:58:32] <makson> ?EdgeSight for XenApp, Basic?Basic agents provide the Resource Management capability that is included in XenApp-Enterprise Edition and require only that you have a XenApp Enterprise license available on your Citrix License Server.
[21:59:35] <makson> OMG the desktop studio for XD5 launches so damn slow
[21:59:42] <makson> and i have authentiode disabeld
[22:00:01] <gblfxt> makson, nice, ill read this over, thanks!
[22:01:28] <kdavy> edgesight is a performance hog
[22:01:57] <gblfxt> i got bit by the cure being worse than the disease the other day, qb databases have assertion errors about 2x a week, which causes the database manager for the whole version to shutdown and kicks everyone out
[22:01:59] <kdavy> when running it on XenApp servers, it increased IOPs by 30% because of the local performance database on each server
[22:02:14] <kdavy> makson, yo
[22:03:04] <gblfxt> i found a flag that can be set, so the last db write, which would be the assertion error, would tell which qb db was the problem, otherwise it would just crash when they tried again to open the corrupt db
[22:03:37] <makson> kdavy: ah, i forgot about that...
[22:03:58] <makson> kdavy: isn't that only during it's inventory or scanning period?
[22:04:14] <gblfxt> well, i set the flag, but this caused intermittent performance issue and would freeze the db manager, since with a day, the writes in the log got it up to 4gb
[22:04:14] <kdavy> makson, no, that's all the time
[22:04:28] <makson> u took it off ur serves?
[22:04:32] <kdavy> i did a diskmon capture and classified i/o patterns over 24 hours
[22:04:44] <makson> kdavy which agent was this ?
[22:04:45] <makson> 5.4?
[22:04:47] <makson> *5.3
[22:04:53] <kdavy> makson: 5.2 sp1
[22:05:01] <gblfxt> so now we are back to just turning this flag on when a corrupt qb file is opened, and hoping they open again
[22:05:14] <kdavy> i got rid of edgesight after this trace, but i;m sure 5.3 will show the same behavior
[22:06:02] <makson> kdavy: interesting.. did edge sight provide any benifit to you that your now missing ?
[22:06:12] <makson> i just got it installed at customer site and learning it now.
[22:06:45] <kdavy> makson: it is very useful in troubleshooting app crashes, performance and so on, but at the time of implementation we were strapped for I/O so edgesight had to go
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