[00:35:22] *** lesrar is now known as waynerr [01:24:28] *** RidaGee has quit IRC [01:29:09] *** RidaGee has joined #Citrix [01:36:26] *** RidaGee has quit IRC [01:43:07] *** RidaGee has joined #Citrix [02:13:00] *** AstainHellbring has joined #Citrix [02:13:39] <AstainHellbring> Hi question about what would be best citrix product for doing vhd boot citrix setups? [02:14:00] <kdavy> AstainHellbring: Provisioning Server [02:16:14] <AstainHellbring> I dont see that as a product? still learning about citrix stuff [02:17:20] <kdavy> AstainHellbring: it comes with higher-end editions of XenApp, XenServer or XenDesktop [02:17:53] <kdavy> I forgot if it's Enterprise or Platinum edition, it varies by product [02:21:40] <JarianGibson> provisioning server for xenapp comes with platinum [02:21:57] <JarianGibson> provisioning server for vm hosted apps comes with xenapp enterprise and platinum [02:22:15] <JarianGibson> provisioning server comes with xendestkop vdi, enterprise, and platinum editions [02:22:29] <JarianGibson> provisioning server for virtual machines comes with xenserver enterprise [02:22:43] <JarianGibson> provisioning server for virtual and physical comes with xenserver platinum [02:23:44] <kdavy> provisioning server for JarianGibson comes with JarianGibson :) [02:24:11] <JarianGibson> i wish i could provision myself about 3 times [02:24:14] <kdavy> btw i still cant install the damn SCVMM beta, it doesn't like my SQL server for some reason [02:24:25] <JarianGibson> what sql are you using? [02:24:34] <JarianGibson> i am going to install it tonight [02:24:57] <JarianGibson> or attempt to [02:24:57] <kdavy> i tried 2008 and 2008 R2. the domain user account i'm using has 'sa' rights on the sql box, though no local admin [02:26:00] <JarianGibson> hmm looks like that blog taht guy tweeted at us he is using 2008 r2 [02:26:11] <kdavy> yeah, sounds like it [02:26:31] <kdavy> i'm sure that there's something wrong in my environment, just can't figure out what [02:27:00] <kdavy> maybe its because i'm installing SCVMM on a Win2008 R2 SP1 host - no idea if its supported [02:27:14] <JarianGibson> it should be [02:27:22] <JarianGibson> would be dumb if it wasn't [02:29:00] * AstainHellbring thinks he needs to read up on how this whole citrx environment stuff works [02:29:47] <kdavy> AstainHellbring: it's complicated :) [02:30:01] <AstainHellbring> kdavy it seems like it [02:30:30] <AstainHellbring> my work is talking about starting a bring your own technology setup [02:32:16] <kdavy> AstainHellbring: makes sense, that's where IT is heading - consumer devices for employees, all business apps hosted on the servers [02:32:32] <kdavy> how many seats will that be, if you don't mind me asking? [02:33:25] <AstainHellbring> kdavy we are looking at doing our call center one setup about 300 pcs and the power users the universal access virtual desktop setup about 100 vpcs [02:33:47] *** adammcurrie has joined #Citrix [02:34:10] <kdavy> AstainHellbring: so 300 XenApp, 100 VDI seats... that's not that big [02:34:19] *** adammcurrie has quit IRC [02:34:51] <kdavy> you'll really only need VHD boot for the VDI (XenDesktop) portion; XenApp side of this scale is easier to manage with just separate server instances [02:35:44] <AstainHellbring> cool [02:35:53] <AstainHellbring> is xenapp best ran from a xen server? [02:36:04] <JarianGibson> same say that [02:36:14] <JarianGibson> some say if windows 2008 hyper-v [02:36:17] <kdavy> AstainHellbring: yes and no, there's never a 100% "best solution" [02:36:22] <AstainHellbring> sure [02:36:29] <kdavy> I run xenapp on xenserver, if that makes a difference [02:36:36] <AstainHellbring> ok [02:36:47] <JarianGibson> i primarly do xenserver and hyper-v [02:36:50] <JarianGibson> both run great [02:36:51] <AstainHellbring> we have played a bit with hyper-v and older versions weren't that impressed [02:36:54] <kdavy> and i'm happy with the setup. much cheaper than vmware, and in my opinion less of a pain than hyper-v [02:37:08] <JarianGibson> hyper-v has gotten better [02:37:20] <AstainHellbring> yah we have a vmware server setup for our servers atm [02:37:23] <JarianGibson> i am excited to play with vmm 2012 since you don't need to install scom anymore [02:37:33] <JarianGibson> and xenserver integration [02:38:01] <kdavy> JarianGibson: hmm yeah i know. what do you think about moving from standalone ESXi servers to HyperV R2 SP1 in an environment where VM density is key? [02:38:06] <AstainHellbring> can you runn xendesktop and hyper-v on same server? [02:38:13] <JarianGibson> yes [02:38:20] <JarianGibson> xendesktop can run on hyper-v [02:38:52] <kdavy> JarianGibson: i.e. 3x+ overcommit on RAM - will that even work on HV with dynamic memory? [02:38:53] <JarianGibson> depends on the workloads but i would test it out. had some customers do that and they really like it [02:39:01] <JarianGibson> no [02:39:10] <JarianGibson> dynamic is more sliding scale [02:39:19] <kdavy> JarianGibson: ok, so more like ballooning then [02:39:34] <JarianGibson> yes [02:39:49] <kdavy> got it [02:39:57] <JarianGibson> you spend more on hardware then on licensing though [02:39:59] <JarianGibson> with hyper-v [02:40:38] <kdavy> JarianGibson: unlike vmware, where you spend more on licensing than on hardware [02:40:39] <AstainHellbring> anyone done anything with rsa and vdi? [02:40:48] <JarianGibson> kday yep [02:40:51] <JarianGibson> AstainHellbring: yes [02:40:58] <JarianGibson> with access gateway/netscaler [02:41:00] <AstainHellbring> cool [02:41:02] <kdavy> AstainHellbring: rsa just got compromised, and there are rumors it's serious :-P [02:41:14] <JarianGibson> they go owned [02:41:39] <kdavy> JarianGibson: owned or pwned? [02:42:08] <AstainHellbring> kdavy I read up on the email on it they sent out [02:42:40] <JarianGibson> ha [02:45:08] <kdavy> anyway... [02:45:10] * kdavy puts Hyper-V back on the shelf [02:45:52] * kdavy burns the shelf [02:46:03] <JarianGibson> ha [02:46:55] <AstainHellbring> lol kdavy [02:47:33] <AstainHellbring> hyper-v installed [02:50:24] <AstainHellbring> damn it need vmm [03:15:54] *** fkreign has joined #Citrix [03:15:57] *** caimlas__ has joined #Citrix [03:16:42] <JarianGibson> c states are evil [03:17:32] <kdavy> c states are beyond evil [03:33:52] <fkreign> haha [03:33:58] <fkreign> you guys still fight with those eh? :P [03:34:05] <fkreign> (works fine on a modern OS...) [03:34:19] <fkreign> I disable that shit on xs hosts. [03:34:39] <kdavy> fkreign: stop using different nicks [03:34:47] <fkreign> "back in the day" you could disable all that stuff in bios and have linux manage it anyway... not sure what changed to make that "not possible" [03:35:02] <fkreign> kdavy, my other me isn't at home. [03:35:12] <fkreign> not going to bother connecting to work to kill the session [03:35:14] <fkreign> :P [03:35:22] <kdavy> modern os != modern os that supports latest processor technology [03:39:15] <fkreign> kdavy, eh, I don't think it's just the kernel, per se, so much as it is the xen-patched kernel(s) [03:39:45] <fkreign> kdavy, I run virtualbox w/ c states w/o issue from linux [03:39:58] <kdavy> fkreign: so the answer is simple regardless: blame the vendor [03:39:58] <fkreign> not sure how kvm handles it... [03:40:04] <fkreign> hah [03:40:07] <fkreign> fair enough. [03:41:02] <fkreign> honestly, Xen was looking quite bright before Citrix bought it... then RH ditched Xen, as did SuSE and Debian and they all went to using kvm for the 'preferred kernel virt'... even though the tools were/are less mature. [03:42:53] <kdavy> we'll see how it turns out. luckily migrating from one virt platform to another is not that complicated [03:44:45] <fkreign> kdavy, yep... honestly P2v is more frustrating in some regards. [03:45:03] <AstainHellbring> p2v with what platform? [03:45:08] <fkreign> kdavy, have you noticed how almost everyone that makes a "virtual appliance" has epic fail written all over their packaging, though? [03:45:29] <fkreign> AstainHellbring, eh, vMware is good, IMO. I hate the various citrix ones. [03:45:37] <fkreign> that's all I've done [03:45:58] <kdavy> fkreign: yeah [03:46:52] <AstainHellbring> yah I've done hyper-v and vmware p2v's and those went great [03:46:54] <fkreign> well, i've 'converted' from within virtualbox as well (raw disk + snapshots if you're using windows so all driver changes can be reverted w/ a vbox container to 'move' to and do a normal 'disk migration' like you would with phys systems) [03:47:11] <fkreign> I know a guy who uses the vmware tools to convert VMs to XS [03:47:24] <fkreign> he'll convert to esxi then create an ovf and import it [03:47:37] <fkreign> claims a low 'driver fucked it up' rate [03:49:53] <AstainHellbring> wow [04:09:18] *** zeke_ has joined #Citrix [04:14:20] <zeke_> I'm new to linux and am using ubuntu 10.10 to start my adventure. I'm learning to be a programmer using c++ and thought code::blocks looked like a good IDE, but something went wrong when I tried to build the and run the program. [04:16:37] <zeke_> I was told to reinstall the code::blocks and that should fix it. Well when I removed it and went back to software center to install it again, it comes up with an error. [04:17:54] <zeke_> "Package dependencies cannot be resolved" [04:18:47] <zeke_> Then it gives a message: [04:19:31] <zeke_> "Items cannot be installed or removed until package catalog is repaired" [04:20:23] <zeke_> But when I click repair it just loops. Any thoughts. How do I rebuild the package manager? [04:22:49] *** zeke_ has quit IRC [04:22:53] *** zeke_ has joined #Citrix [04:23:12] *** zeke_ has left #Citrix [04:53:40] *** jamesd_laptop has joined #Citrix [04:56:17] *** jamesd2 has quit IRC [04:57:18] *** jamesd__ has joined #Citrix [05:00:11] *** jamesd_laptop has quit IRC [05:21:57] *** ScottW_ has joined #Citrix [05:46:05] *** draygo has quit IRC [05:55:52] <gladier> aha! fixed my client proxy auto detection issue with the proxy auto detection on mac [05:55:57] <gladier> just disabled the proxy detection in WI [06:45:00] *** echelog-2 has joined #Citrix [07:16:21] *** jamesd2 has joined #Citrix [07:17:31] *** kaytras has quit IRC [07:18:51] *** jamesd__ has quit IRC [08:06:39] *** ScottW_ has quit IRC [09:21:46] *** jamesd2 has quit IRC [11:32:56] <Guest83799> hi.. I have a problem making a citrix scenario. From whom can i get some help pls? [12:00:09] *** Faithful has joined #Citrix [12:12:34] *** Guest83799 has left #Citrix [12:14:28] *** robust has joined #Citrix [12:17:31] <robust> Hi.. i need some help on a citrix scenario. To whom can i ask some questions pls ? [12:20:08] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [12:21:54] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [13:23:20] *** jamesd2 has joined #Citrix [13:42:42] *** RidaGee has quit IRC [14:24:40] <Splatone> Yall seen any issues with XA6 and R2 sp1? [14:33:28] <tabularasa> its not supported yet [14:33:34] <tabularasa> there are some issues [14:33:42] <tabularasa> supersonic just did that [14:44:56] *** robust has left #Citrix [14:45:56] <Splatone> tabularasa: Its not supported by citrix or it doesnt work? [14:46:00] *** KaiForce has joined #Citrix [14:46:20] <tabularasa> i htink a little of both [14:46:24] <tabularasa> he has some licensing problem [14:50:56] *** robust has joined #Citrix [14:52:52] <Splatone> tabularasa: Oh.. I love licensing problems. [14:53:22] <tabularasa> yeah [14:54:00] <Splatone> tabularasa: although I do want to see what the have done with hyper-v [14:58:10] *** rev78 has joined #Citrix [15:00:44] <tabularasa> i installed the XA6 SDK on 2 boxes last night. gonna check out the PS commands it comes with [15:00:51] <tabularasa> looks like you can do some cool stuff with it [15:12:38] *** Trixboxer has joined #Citrix [15:13:55] <gblfxt> is there much the sdk can do that you cant do with cdsc? [15:14:54] <robust> Hi, I insalled the citrix desktop studio as a controller and added to it a host (Xen server). Created a catalogue using an XP machine found in this Xen server. Installed the online plugin to use the citrix client from the web. I log in and I am able to see the desktop group created as 2 per user. I luanch one of them and keeps on loading and then i see an error says that 'X' is unavailable. [15:15:02] <robust> can someine help pls? [15:16:32] <gblfxt> im going to have to convince the citrix guy here to deploy the sdk, he is not much of a command line person [15:17:50] <kdavy_> lol. i have one xenapp server that renders everything but bitmaps black. [15:17:57] <kdavy_> via RDP and ICA [15:18:25] <kdavy_> anyone seen that? [15:18:55] *** AstainHellbring has quit IRC [15:20:57] <gblfxt> he wants me to find a way to measure client performance, adn i think Get-XASession might be a good route, so i may have a good case [15:21:34] <tabularasa> robust: are you connecting from inside or outside? [15:21:39] <kdavy_> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/906510 looks like a probable fix, lets see if it works. i remember seeing this before [15:23:18] <gblfxt> the other possibilty is 'end user monitoring' in profiles, but i have no idea what those do, lol [15:25:42] * kdavy_ is a professional googler [15:26:07] <robust> I am using the internal site [15:26:40] <gblfxt> had a few people call in that upgraded to ie9 and ff4 complaining ica client doesnt work, our official response is ,currently, citrix doesnt support those [15:26:59] <tabularasa> robust: conecting internally? [15:27:06] <kdavy_> gblfxt, how exactly does it not work? [15:27:08] <tabularasa> do you guys do "only allow 1 connection" to full desktops? [15:27:26] <kdavy_> tabularasa, yes [15:29:26] <gblfxt> kdavy, well, we havnt been allowed to troubleshoot it much, other than to recommend uninstalling them until citrix officially supports them [15:29:31] <tabularasa> to stop them from opening sessions on more than 1 server? [15:29:44] <kdavy_> tabularasa, that's the point, yes [15:30:02] <kdavy_> gblfxt, that's not very proactive... [15:30:11] <robust> XenApp Web Internal Site. URL is provided in the citrix desktop studio [15:31:03] <gblfxt> kdavy, i think so, but my boss doesnt want to spend too much helpdesk resources troubleshooting unsupported software [15:31:31] <kdavy_> gblfxt, solution: get a new boss :) [15:32:19] <gblfxt> i've tested both new browsers and they seem to work..... [15:37:37] *** robust has left #Citrix [15:38:51] *** robust has joined #Citrix [15:40:11] *** AstainHellbring has joined #Citrix [15:43:57] <tabularasa> robust: internal site and internal VDIs? [15:49:15] <robust> using internal site yes, connected to XEN server [15:50:51] *** adamm_ has joined #Citrix [15:51:32] *** adamm_ has quit IRC [15:56:36] <tabularasa> is the DDC the WI server ? [15:56:46] <Splatone> tabularasa:lol [16:09:01] <robust> the controller is the citrix desktop studio installed on a 08 R2 machine [16:18:48] <tabularasa> what access mode is the WI configured in? [16:18:54] <tabularasa> and are you trying to connect from inside your network? [16:23:13] <kdavy_> has anyone ever heard about Abiquo? [16:23:27] <robust> I am using the internal site [16:23:38] <robust> Xen app web [16:23:51] <robust> installed the online plug-in [16:37:51] <robust> can anyone guide me pls to make the right set up using the citrix desktop studio? [16:39:24] *** katano has joined #Citrix [16:43:22] <tabularasa> kdavy_: looks like it was caused by a bad print driver and my fogetting to configure some crucial printer policies. :-/ [16:43:33] <tabularasa> map all printers + install native print drivers = Citrix Death [16:43:36] <tabularasa> ... :( [16:43:50] <tabularasa> robust: well, you can't use the online plugin to point to a WI site [16:43:58] <tabularasa> online plugin has to point to a services site [16:48:05] *** echelog-2 has joined #Citrix [16:49:00] <tabularasa> XA6 [16:49:17] <gblfxt> kdavy, ah, have a couple potential big clients signing up depending on the ability to integrate their authentication schemes... [16:50:27] <tabularasa> god, that sucked... an entire farm fucked by a print driver [16:55:39] *** katano has quit IRC [17:30:27] <tabularasa> kdavy_: do you use some method to hide session printers from users ? [17:30:36] <tabularasa> IE, you only see what printers are in your session [17:35:50] <tabularasa> nm [17:35:54] <tabularasa> its only from 1 app... [17:35:59] <tabularasa> god, i'm ready for a beer [17:36:52] <gblfxt> tabularasa, you use the standard citrix printer solution? [17:40:16] <tabularasa> yes [17:51:48] <kdavy_> gblfxt, if the standard solution doesnt work out, Screwdrivers works excellent [17:52:01] <kdavy_> it [17:52:08] <kdavy_> 's expensive though [17:52:45] <gblfxt> yes, thats what we have been using, and it is expensive... but alot less calls! [17:52:58] <kdavy_> gblfxt, yep, it's worth it [17:53:16] <Rienzilla> oh this is starting to piss me off [17:53:28] <kdavy_> i got a damn good deal on it when i bought it, too :) $750/server including 1st year of support [17:53:54] <gblfxt> nice, i think we paid $1200 per server.... :( [17:53:56] <kdavy_> list price was over $2k [17:54:13] <gblfxt> i guess we should have talked them down more, lol [17:54:15] <Rienzilla> I accidentally pushed pgup or down or something a couple of times, causing xenserver to mount the real dvd driver of the server on a vm, and now xenserver refuses to detach from the dvd drive [17:54:29] <kdavy_> gblfxt, oh yeah, and that was the SimplifyPrinting Suite, not just screwdrivers [17:54:41] <gblfxt> same as us, simplify [17:55:25] <kdavy_> gblfxt, yeah, i told them that if they don't match ThinPrint's pricing (which I also talked down) we won't buy it [17:55:54] <kdavy_> especially since ThinPrint offered us service provider monthly pricing [18:00:20] <tabularasa> on really? [18:00:22] <tabularasa> how much?? [18:04:32] <kdavy_> tabularasa, searching. this was in end of 2009 [18:04:43] <tabularasa> i love thin print but stopped using it with XA6 [18:04:57] <tabularasa> i don't have too many printer related problems (aside from this one) anymore [18:06:51] *** draygo has joined #Citrix [18:07:33] <kdavy_> aha, for thinprint it was $3/user/month [18:07:52] <tabularasa> wow... [18:07:58] <tabularasa> thats fantastic... [18:08:16] <kdavy_> i know. but i wasted a lot of their time negotiating :) [18:08:21] <tabularasa> heh [18:24:04] <Splatone> tabularasa: whats the issue your having.. All session printers are showing up for all users? regardless of the printer policies? [18:24:52] <tabularasa> no, works fine as the regular usres, but when they launch an app the app shows all the printers [18:24:56] <tabularasa> the app service runs as an admin user [18:25:01] *** senji has joined #Citrix [18:25:13] <kdavy_> tabularasa, oh i've seen that before [18:25:19] <kdavy_> don't remember what i did to fix [18:27:24] *** senji has left #Citrix [18:27:51] <tabularasa> heh, let me know if you remember [18:29:54] <kdavy_> tabularasa, does the app service not work as power user? [18:30:24] <kdavy_> i'd honestly give it power user + stuff it needs from local security policy and identify the lowest set of permissions [18:31:33] *** [M]ax has quit IRC [18:34:25] <Splatone> the app service? [18:36:47] <kdavy_> Spherical app service in a vacuum? [18:40:25] <tabularasa> yeah, the app service [18:40:27] *** [M]ax has joined #Citrix [18:41:02] *** AstainHellbring has quit IRC [18:41:31] <tabularasa> kdavy_: yeah, i guess i could test that [18:41:39] <tabularasa> i just went with the vendor's spec sheet [18:41:51] <tabularasa> but you know developers.... gimme 16 cores, 48 gigs of RAM and admin rights, i'll make it work [18:44:16] <kdavy_> tabularasa, oh i know [18:44:28] <kdavy_> i know this all too well [18:44:42] <kdavy_> tell them something about SAS70 and PCI compliance [18:46:03] <kdavy_> or just straight-up ignore their spec sheet and do what you think is best [18:46:49] <tabularasa> yeah, i'll have to test that theory [18:54:59] *** KaiForce has quit IRC [19:03:15] *** The_Machine has joined #Citrix [19:04:03] *** OmNomSequitur has joined #Citrix [19:04:08] *** Elias_Rus has joined #Citrix [19:08:06] *** UK has joined #Citrix [19:08:25] <UK> Hi [19:10:06] <UK> i have a question regarding PVS and xen Server network and config [19:11:08] <UK> how to configure the PVS and xen server to stream desktops to multiple network (subnets) [19:11:38] <UK> what needs to be done on PVS and xen server, network [19:12:51] *** proprietarysucks has joined #Citrix [19:12:57] *** proprietarysucks is now known as Ownage [19:14:28] <kdavy_> UK, you need proper DHCP setup before anything else [19:15:29] <UK> DHCP and iphelper on routers are set already. The communication between these subnets are routable and no firewalls in between [19:16:05] <kdavy_> then you should be good to go [19:16:34] <UK> i have 4 nics on PVS, how can we distribute the NICs for mgmt and streaming load [19:16:39] <UK> sorry 6 NICs [19:17:00] <kdavy_> use NIC bonding with the windows driver for your NICs [19:17:00] <Elias_Rus> hey hey [19:17:00] <UK> do we have to set any trunk port etc on PVS? [19:17:40] <UK> or access port option for these net wrok is good to go? [19:18:54] <kdavy_> depending on your NIC bond method you may need to set up switches - for 802.3ad or whatnot. our network admin handles this [19:20:16] <UK> thats the confusion i have now.... for the streaming network NIC bond, do we need to have trunk port or access port type set on physcial router ! [19:20:24] *** houseofcurrie has joined #Citrix [19:20:57] <kdavy_> not on router, on switch. and i don't know [19:21:19] <UK> sorry switch.. not router.. my bad [19:21:58] <UK> how about the network on xen server? [19:22:53] <tabularasa> switch should use a trunk port [19:22:57] <tabularasa> and setup vlan tagging on the XenServers [19:26:49] <kdavy_> ok... is 0.25% consistent packet loss (250 dropped packets out of 100k) f%^king acceptable on a metro fibre link? [19:27:05] <kdavy_> the ISP is saying they don't see a problem [19:27:37] <kdavy_> L2 point to point [19:27:59] <tabularasa> i'd say no [19:28:11] <tabularasa> i'd say that sucks ass [19:28:23] <kdavy_> i have 30 users saying the same thing [19:28:28] <tabularasa> what are the endpoints you are testing with? [19:28:43] <tabularasa> some devices will actually drop icmp packets when doing that [19:29:01] <tabularasa> IE, its treated as low priority traffic [19:29:01] <kdavy_> two drops in the building - one connected to my Cisco router, the other to an on-site techs laptop [19:29:04] <tabularasa> not qos [19:29:22] <kdavy_> pinging my core router in the DC [19:29:40] <tabularasa> both connections have the same drop rate? [19:29:50] <kdavy_> no, no qos - it's 100mbps symmetric L2 [19:29:52] <tabularasa> whats the core router? [19:30:07] <kdavy_> yep, both the same [19:30:13] <kdavy_> Cisco 6509 [19:31:18] <tabularasa> meeting.. bbl [19:31:23] <kdavy_> it's not the router - i have 30+ sites with exact same setup, and only this site has the issue. for all others nothing drops [19:32:27] *** AstainHellbring has joined #Citrix [19:42:12] *** houseofcurrie has quit IRC [19:44:02] *** UK has quit IRC [19:46:12] *** denon has joined #Citrix [19:46:13] *** denon has joined #Citrix [19:50:59] *** denon has quit IRC [19:51:17] *** JohnMcBr1de has quit IRC [19:51:32] *** JohnMcBride has joined #Citrix [19:52:00] *** denon has joined #Citrix [19:55:35] <jduggan> kdavy_: what do you use for monitoring xen servers? [19:55:46] <jduggan> do you graph performance etc? [19:55:52] <jduggan> monitor availablity? [20:09:12] *** caimlas__ has quit IRC [20:16:02] <kdavy_> jduggan: WhatsUp and MatLab [20:18:07] <Elias_Rus> does anyone played with citrix branch repeater or any wan optimization stuff ? [20:18:17] <Elias_Rus> did [20:18:32] <Elias_Rus> play [20:18:35] <kdavy_> Elias_Rus, tabularasa is using it [20:19:46] <Elias_Rus> tabularasa, are you there ? [20:26:47] *** Trixboxer has quit IRC [20:29:08] * gazzo parachutes in [20:30:05] <kdavy_> g'day [20:30:09] <gazzo> hihi [20:30:10] <gazzo> how goes it ?? [20:30:14] <kdavy_> alright [20:30:38] <kdavy_> trying to figure out some weird kerberos issue [20:31:28] <kdavy_> get a "Cannot generate SSPI context" error when connecting to a sql box from one server [20:31:45] <Splatone> I think im having a retard moment. [20:32:06] <kdavy_> does KDC_ERR_PREAUTH_REQUIRED ring a bell to anyone? [20:32:10] <Rienzilla> argh [20:32:33] <Splatone> kdavy_: sspi is a pain in the arse to troubleshoot. [20:32:41] <gazzo> kdavy_: what happens if you tick "do not require preauth" in AD? is that cheating? [20:32:52] <gazzo> kerberos is a pain in the ass to troubleshoot [20:32:53] <kdavy_> gazzo, yes it would be cheating [20:33:23] <gazzo> are you running sql as local system or a domani accnt? [20:33:30] <kdavy_> network service [20:41:27] <gazzo> fun [20:41:35] <gazzo> have you enabled kerberos logging ? [20:42:13] <gazzo> there are some utils i was playing with yesterday klist and kerbtray but not sure if they would be of any use? [20:42:30] <kdavy_> gazzo, yeah i enabled logging [20:42:42] <kdavy_> on the client, not on the sql server [20:43:41] *** UK has joined #Citrix [20:44:43] <UK> Hi... have a question...how can we set up networking on xen server with multiple VLAN tags if it needs to serve? [20:45:02] <UK> lets say, i fteh streamed VM desktops should go to vlan1 and vlan2 [20:45:10] *** andtrds has joined #Citrix [20:45:18] <UK> do we need to set trunk port option in the switch [20:45:49] <UK> and no configs related to val ID in vswitch on xen server? [20:46:10] <UK> and no configs related to VLAN ID in vswitch on xen server? [20:47:26] *** waynerr__ has joined #Citrix [20:49:35] <andtrds> hello am trying to create a XenDesktop poc for a customer..i want to give him a url that he will be able to use vm desktops..i managed to create the scenario in my internal network but i cant make it over internet [20:49:39] <andtrds> any ideas? [20:50:32] <makson> andtrds: look at virtual demo center by citrix [20:50:38] <makson> it's perfect for what your trying to do. [20:51:02] <andtrds> where i can find that makson? [20:51:06] *** waynerr has quit IRC [20:56:00] <Splatone> Is it possible to do computer loopback processing per user ou? [20:56:18] <Splatone> I know you can do it the other way around.. [20:57:45] <Splatone> Im trying to set a gpo for roaming profile location in group policy based on OU but I believe the option is only under computer policy. [21:01:41] <andtrds> its seems that virtual demo center by citrix needs specific access that i dont have [21:05:39] <Splatone> tabularasa: you around? [21:09:23] <andtrds> anyone else have an idea how to create a demo of Xendesktop ( want to give him a url that he will be able to use vm desktops..i managed to create the scenario in my internal network but i cant make it over internet)??? [21:19:23] *** Elias_Rus has quit IRC [21:21:20] <makson> andtrds: https://www.mycitrixcloud.net/Login.aspx [21:26:14] <gazzo> Splatone: is that even possible? Sounds like a world of hurt.. [21:27:50] <Splatone> Well.. [21:28:12] <Splatone> I have a domain trust to another domain and I wanted to create mandatory profiles when those users login to my farm. [21:28:29] <andtrds> thanks makson bit i cant login with my account it seems that i dont have access.. [21:29:46] <Splatone> gazzo: I can add those users from another domain into a group on my domain but I have no idea how to specify what profile to load. [21:30:14] *** Ownage has quit IRC [21:38:17] <Splatone> Is it possible to specify a profile by GPO? [21:50:25] *** fkreign has quit IRC [21:52:46] *** Ownage has joined #Citrix [22:10:37] *** Faithful has quit IRC [22:16:38] *** The_Machine has quit IRC [22:22:03] *** andtrds has quit IRC [22:33:48] *** UK has quit IRC [22:44:22] *** mete has quit IRC [22:51:15] *** mete has joined #Citrix [23:12:55] *** rev78 has quit IRC [23:24:29] [23:24:47] *** kaytras has joined #Citrix [23:25:54] <kaytras> hello, I use a 300 GB Disk as storage, 279.4 GB are usable. I created a VHD (180 GB). But now are 206 GB used on the Disk! [23:26:00] <kaytras> How can I solve this problem? [23:26:12] <kaytras> I think old snapshots are not correctly deleted... [23:26:33] [23:26:45] <kaytras> mete: xDDDD [23:28:23] *** OmNomSequitur has quit IRC [23:33:29] *** fkreign has joined #Citrix [23:34:45] <fkreign> kdavy, are you using nexenta's vm datacenter? [23:36:33] <kdavy_> fkreign, nope [23:36:45] <kdavy_> i dont even know what it does to be honest [23:37:12] <kdavy_> if i needed something more granular than LUNs i'd use storagelink since it's free [23:37:42] <fkreign> kdavy, free for you, you mean :P [23:38:04] <AstainHellbring> wtf what does xendesktop need to talk to hyper-v [23:38:48] <fkreign> ... i must've missed the first half of that conversation, AstainHellbring [23:39:01] <AstainHellbring> fkreign just getting annoyed at xendesktop [23:39:29] <fkreign> kdavy, primary benefit in my mind seems to be the snapshot/clone for esxi for space savings. [23:39:48] <AstainHellbring> fkreign first time playing with xendesktop [23:40:05] <AstainHellbring> and getting annoyed at how much mess there is to get it communicating with any vmhost [23:40:15] <fkreign> AstainHellbring, heh