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[00:39:21] <spowers> xenserver, NFS SR... can i adjust the timeout pool-wide so that things don't blow up when i reboot my nfs server?
[00:39:47] <spowers> it'll probably be down for just a minute or two
[00:39:59] <spowers> less, if this netapp is worth what they say
[00:47:17] <kdavy_> spowers, not sure with nfs, but is the storage multipathed?
[00:47:40] <kdavy_> there is a default timeout you can set in /etc/multipath.conf
[00:48:34] <kdavy_> in the defaults{} section
[00:48:52] <spowers> hmm
[00:49:07] <spowers> ...  type nfs (rw,soft,timeo=133,retrans=2147483647,tcp,noac,addr= ... (from 'mount)
[00:49:24] <kdavy_> nah that doesnt matter
[00:49:44] <kdavy_> though what is "timeo=133" - could that be the timeout?
[00:49:58] <spowers> that looks interesting
[00:50:13] <spowers> if i just went through my pool and did mount -o remount,timeo=bigger number
[00:50:14] <spowers> maybe...
[00:50:48] <kdavy_> 133 is kind of a random number though, i wonder why that is the default
[00:51:01] <kdavy_> and whether timeo is indeed the timeout
[00:51:44] <spowers> it's also a soft mount.. if i switch it to a hard mount, i guess everything will just lock up while it waits for NFS to come back
[00:51:50] <spowers> i think i'm going to have to take everything down
[00:51:54] <spowers> to be safe
[00:52:07] <kdavy_> yeah, hard mount is always better
[00:52:14] <kdavy_> anyway i gotta go. good luck
[00:52:17] <spowers> thanks
[01:24:17] <gladier> tabularasa: kdavy_ did we want to continue citrixwiki.us?
[01:25:28] <gladier> domain is coming up for renewal
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[05:07:02] <gazzo> gah, stupid Citrix receiver never working for iphone
[05:29:40] <gazzo> oops i mean android
[06:01:48] <gladier> i'm having issues with the new client for osx
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[06:23:07] <gladier> the receiver for iphone/andriod works fine from my testing
[06:30:09] <makson> gladier: hey
[06:30:18] <gladier> hey makson
[06:30:21] <makson> gladier: what issyes? I had some slowness with app launches with the reciever
[06:30:23] <makson> from app store
[06:30:28] <makson> ended up uninstalling it.
[06:30:32] <makson> sticking with 11.3
[06:30:40] <makson> gladier: tired... :\
[06:30:46] <gladier> how'd you uninstall it?
[06:30:53] <gladier> i get this wierd proxy issue
[06:31:06] <makson> i think i threw it out from applications folder and cleared caches
[06:31:16] <makson> proxy issue/
[06:35:08] <gladier> will screenshot in a sec
[06:35:34] <makson> kk
[06:53:06] <gladier> crazy afternoon here
[06:53:14] <gladier> http://img815.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110317at437.png/
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[07:02:11] <gladier> makson: ^
[07:02:19] <gladier> i get that on every deployment i have
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[14:24:02] <Jenius> what is the best way forward to entering into "citrix world" and starting off on a product?
[14:30:31] <tabularasa> XenApp is the bread and butter
[14:30:38] <tabularasa> Xendesktop is the exciting new comer
[14:30:45] <tabularasa> XenServer makes you want to put forks in your eyes
[14:34:15] <Jenius> umm..
[14:34:33] <Jenius> xenapp it is, then.
[14:34:48] <Jenius> how can i start off with xenapp?
[14:35:04] <Jenius> are there materials available online?
[14:35:19] <Jenius> or should i browse through the forum?
[14:35:57] <mnemon> citrix.com has lots of material about it.
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[14:44:07] <Jenius> brb
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[15:02:08] <Splatone> tabularasa: lol.
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[15:12:44] <rob123> I am having issues when attaching a CD/DVD  ISO to my CentOS 5.5 VM on Xen 5.6 FP1. I get the following error when trying to boot the VM with an attached ISO : WARNING: /dev/xvda is not a disk image - Traceback (most recent call last): - File "/usr/bin/pygrub", line 746, in ? - raise RuntimeError, "Unable to find partition containing kernel" - RuntimeError: Unable to find partition containing kernel
[15:13:20] <Splatone> rob123: Make sure your using the correct template.
[15:13:44] <rob123> Splatone: I am using CentOS 5 (64 bit) template
[15:15:16] <Splatone> rob123: Ive installed centos many times on fp1 without problems.
[15:15:44] <rob123> Splatone: I'll double check some things. Thanks
[15:16:21] <Splatone> rob123: Yea I would start over with the template process and make sure your using a good iso.
[15:16:43] <rob123> Splatone: I am using the CentOS 5.5 LiveCD iso
[15:17:53] <rob123> Splatone: I have tried other ISO's that I know works correctly on windows VMs and I experience the same issue. I'll see if something got corrupted on my end
[15:21:38] <rob123> Splatone: ok I created a brand new VM using the CentOS 5 (64 bit) template and I now get the following error : unable to access a required file in the specified repository vmlinuz
[15:21:58] <rob123> Splatone: I get this error when trying to boot the CentOS 5.5 LiveCD iso
[15:23:46] <Splatone> rob123: I dont see a centos 5.5 template yet?
[15:24:04] <Splatone> rob123: try a centos 5.4 iso using the 5.4 template.
[15:24:28] <rob123> Splatone: 5.6 FP1 fresh install no longer has CentOS 5.x templates
[15:24:49] <Splatone> rob123: it should.
[15:24:50] <rob123> Splatone: 5.6 fp1 only has CentOS 5 (32 bit) and CentOS 5 (64 bit)
[15:25:31] <Splatone> rob123: you installed the linux pack disk on the host
[15:25:49] <rob123> Splatone: nope, where do I get that?
[15:26:05] <Splatone> Its a separate ISO you download with xenserver.
[15:26:18] <rob123> Splatone: actually we already did that
[15:26:19] <Splatone> It asks for the supplimental pack when you do the install.
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[15:27:35] <rob123> Splatone: are you using fp1?
[15:27:40] <Splatone> Yes.
[15:28:30] <rob123> Splatone: fp1 clean install or upgrade? we noticed CentOS 5.x templates exist if you upgrade but dont if you clean install then install linux pack
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[15:29:15] <Splatone> two of my servers I did clean install two are existing upgrade.
[15:29:34] <rob123> Splatone: on the clean install servers, do you have CentOS 5.x templates?
[15:30:04] <Splatone> rob123: Yea they are on all of my servers in the pool.
[15:30:38] <rob123> maybe we installed the wrong one
[15:30:39] <rob123> can you direct me to the linux pack you installed?
[15:30:47] <Splatone> xe template-list
[15:31:27] <rob123> Splatone: we literally just installed fp1 fresh with linux pack and only got the CentOS 5 (32 bit)/ (64 bit) templates which leads me to believe we may have used the wrong pack
[15:32:05] <Splatone> what other linux distro's do you see?
[15:32:09] <Splatone> do you have debian?
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[15:32:36] <rob123> yes
[15:33:01] <Splatone> how about suse 11?
[15:33:02] <rob123> CentOS 4.x templates up to CentOS 5 32/64
[15:33:23] <rob123> yes
[15:35:30] <Splatone> Generic Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 5.x support. RHEL / CentOS / Oracle Enterprise Linux versions 5.0 to 5.5 support with a generic "RHEL 5" template.
[15:35:45] <Splatone> under fp1 features.
[15:35:58] <rob123> ok so we should use that instead now
[15:36:37] <Splatone> sounds like the 5.x generic what you should use.
[15:36:44] <rob123> will try that next, thanks
[15:37:30] <Splatone> although my guess is that you could load the 5.6 templates into fp1 without a problem.
[15:38:19] <rob123> where do you find those?
[15:40:09] <Splatone> off the citrix website.
[15:40:18] <Splatone> are you on free or paid?
[15:40:21] <rob123> paid
[15:41:17] <Splatone> It should be listed under xenserver 5.6 iso's.
[15:42:16] <rob123> should it be possible to use 5.6 template with 5.5 iso?
[15:42:56] <Splatone> rob123: not sure.
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[15:45:17] <Xago> Is this channel in english, right?
[15:45:49] <Xago> Topic is in english :P
[15:45:52] <rob123> yes
[15:46:26] <Xago> guys, who can tell where to find detailed info about binding settings?
[15:49:18] <Xago> or better....a manual with all necessary to use correctly this system??? :D
[15:50:16] <kdavy_> binding settings for what?
[15:50:43] <kdavy_> Xago, please be more specific
[15:50:53] <Xago> to balance ethernet cards
[15:51:08] <kdavy_> oh, NIC bonding in XenServer
[15:51:12] <Xago> eth0 and eth1 working as a team
[15:51:36] <Xago> yes...thats the name in Citrix, you are right
[15:51:58] <kdavy_> in general, you should just be able to bond them from XenCenter - just click on "Create Bond" under Network settings on the standalone XenServer
[15:52:31] <Xago> but, is that all I need to do???? :S
[15:53:13] <rob123> Splatone: I don't see 5.6 templates listed on the citrix website
[15:53:22] <rob123> CentOS 5.6 i mean
[15:56:13] <Xago> I insist in my question....where can i find a detailed manual of Citrix 5.6.0
[15:59:29] <pak21> http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0fp1/1.0/en_gb/
[16:00:49] <rev78> i think the first part of url takes you right there too http://docs.vmd.citrix.com
[16:01:03] <rev78> that's what i point my folks to
[16:07:01] <rob123> Is there a way I can wipe out all my existing Xen 5.6 FP1 templates and reinstall them?
[16:07:15] <rob123> upgrading from 5.6 to 5.6 FP1 seemed to have kept old templates
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[16:26:46] <tabularasa> yo Splatone whats up
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[17:03:09] <gblfxt> tokens, register!
[17:03:25] <tabularasa> ?
[17:04:32] <gblfxt> trying to implement rsa with xenapp, rsa token registration borked it seems, lol
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[17:08:24] <gblfxt> i was reading securid was supposed to be installed on the cag, but coworker says its an appliance, and it supposed to be installed on the secure gateway....
[17:10:08] <tabularasa> cag != CSG
[17:10:18] <tabularasa> you should be able to integrate RSA into either
[17:12:15] <gblfxt> hrm... how would you install the agent on an appliance? O.o
[17:12:28] <tabularasa> you don't install anything, there are some RSA tabs to do something or another
[17:13:52] <gblfxt> ah k, ill look into it more, im more an authentication specialist, my coworker is more of a xenapp specialist, the thing i read was from xenapp 5
[17:16:40] <eastz0r> Hi all, can i move xenserver host with local storage to another server by just moving the HDD's? I suppose there will be issues with the MAC address bindings?
[17:16:50] <gblfxt> its more complicated because we only want to have a certain security group authenticated with securid, but dont know if xenapp supports that
[17:18:11] <tabularasa> yeah, not too sure about that
[17:18:23] <tabularasa> because it normally happens at the gateway, pre-login
[17:19:44] <tabularasa> eastz0r: good question.  i dont know.. stick around and wait for a XS person
[17:20:18] <eastz0r> Sure will :)
[17:20:30] <Splatone> eastz0r: You want to move just the drives?
[17:20:47] <Splatone> eastz0r: just storage or both boot and storage?
[17:21:06] <eastz0r> Yeah, the server had faulty mobo, so got a new server chassis, so need to move HDD's, RAM and CPU's to the new chassis
[17:21:20] <eastz0r> It will be both boot and storage
[17:21:42] <Splatone> How close is the hardware?  IE same nics?
[17:21:54] <eastz0r> Identical hardware
[17:22:02] <eastz0r> but MAC address of cards will be different
[17:22:15] <Splatone> ah..  That should go pretty smooth.
[17:22:17] <eastz0r> that's binded to the management interface isn't it?
[17:22:34] <Splatone> you might have to do a pifscan
[17:23:21] <eastz0r> Yeah, can you think of any other issues there might be?
[17:24:27] <Splatone> Not off the top of my head.
[17:24:47] <eastz0r> Ok cool =)
[17:24:54] <eastz0r> Thanks Splatone
[17:53:36] <rob123> Splatone: I created 2 fresh new CentOS 5.5 VMs with 1 using the RHEL 5 template and the other using CentOS 5 (64bit) template. I was able to install centos 5.5 fine when specifying the netinstall URL. I then proceeded to make sure the xen kernel was installed then I installed xstools. When I now try to boot either VM from DVD using the CentOS 5.5 LiveCD ISO I get the following error :WARNING: /dev/xvda is not a disk image - Traceback
[17:53:47] <rob123> WARNING: /dev/xvda is not a disk image - Traceback (most recent call last): - File "/usr/bin/pygrub", line 746, in ? - raise RuntimeError, "Unable to find partition containing kernel" - RuntimeError: Unable to find partition containing kernel
[17:54:59] <Splatone> rob123: so the install goes fine and installs properly but then it has a problem on reboot?
[17:55:24] <rob123> Splatone: it reboots perfectly fine. The issue occurs when I change Boot Options from HD to DVD and proceed to boot an ISO
[17:56:00] <Splatone> rob123: so after you have installed to the hard drive you change the boot option to boot from DVD and its not working?
[17:56:58] <rob123> rob123: correct. The VM boots fine into it's HD but now I want to boot the VM into my ISO so I changed the boot option from HD to DVD and it fails to start the VM with the error above
[17:56:59] <rob123> oops Splatone:
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[18:08:54] <rob123> Splatone: could it be because i'm using LVM?
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[18:27:11] <rob123> Splatone: I got it working. If I start the VM in recovery mode then it boots fine. Apparently xen doesn't boot ISOs correctly once the VM is in the installed state
[18:27:28] <rob123> well CentOS/RHEL VMs i mean
[18:28:11] <rob123> How can I wipe out my existing xen templates and reinstall fresh?
[18:28:27] <rob123> specifically just want to wipe out all my linux templates and reinstall them
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[19:18:51] <tabularasa> kdavy_: http://communications.citrixemea.com/Readmore.aspx?a=%7b6279CFF5-3BD7-4677-9DF1-BCA0B200D460%7d&i=%7b85C9703B-81EF-4B76-95E9-47BE23395AC1%7d&c=%7be298e956-8efc-4005-af78-b934488e2fbc%7d
[19:21:32] <kdavy_> tabularasa, yea i saw the partner newsletter
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[19:22:30] <kdavy_> i still dont understand though, if the Branch Repeater VPX goes on the client site, what goes into the datacenter? Another Branch Repeater or something else?
[19:22:55] <tabularasa> a repeater
[19:23:02] <tabularasa> a physical device
[19:23:08] <tabularasa> that you stil have to pay for
[19:23:10] <kdavy_> ok, and there is no Repeater VPX
[19:23:12] <kdavy_> got it
[19:23:14] <tabularasa> no
[19:23:19] <kdavy_> how much is the actual Repeater?
[19:23:40] <tabularasa> there are 3 different models
[19:23:43] <tabularasa> i got the 8k one
[19:23:49] <tabularasa> its like 10Mb
[19:24:04] <kdavy_> they're limited by just bandwidth, or concurrent users too?
[19:25:17] <tabularasa> bandwidth
[19:30:16] <kdavy_> hm, ok
[19:30:31] <kdavy_> oh so Repeater used to be called WANScaler
[19:30:45] <kdavy_> i get it now.. citrix naming is confusing as fuck
[19:31:56] <kdavy_> though on their website i dont see any mention of it now
[19:32:01] <kdavy_> all they have is this: http://store.citrix.com/store/citrixus/en_US/pd/productID.222884400
[19:32:21] <kdavy_> and the pricing looks like it's for the datacenter end... no?
[19:34:38] <Splatone> Anyone familiar with cross domain trusts?
[19:34:52] <Splatone> Is it possible to create a cross domain admin user?
[19:36:48] <kdavy_> Splatone, through delegation possibly
[19:37:03] <kdavy_> i only have theoretical experience with cross-domain stuff
[19:43:09] <Splatone> Yea my company got bought by another..
[19:43:34] <Splatone> So I created the new domain to migrate stuff over but I want domain admin accounts to work cross forest.
[19:43:46] <kdavy_> Splatone, is that good news or bad news?
[19:44:03] <Splatone> For the most part good.
[19:45:27] <Splatone> rob123: when your vm booted the second time it was in PV mode vs HVM which is why the ISO live disk wouldnt work.
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[20:05:33] <JarianGibson> also if you are xendesktop plat you get branch repeater vpx free up to 45mbps
[20:05:48] <JarianGibson> still have to buy appliances for datacenter though
[20:07:29] <rev78> Splatone: you should be able to grant domain access to your current domain's admin on the new domain if you have the trust working properly
[20:08:01] <rev78> you will need to add the admin into the various security groups
[20:29:35] <Xago__> People, if a need create a bonding system, is it necessary to stop all resource pool?
[20:30:48] <Xago__> I have three server into a pool. One of them is working as production and can't be stopped...
[20:30:57] <Xago__> What should I do?
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[21:28:32] <Splatone> rev78: The issue is that you cant add users from another forest into either the enterprise admins or domain admins group.
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[21:31:39] <kdavy_> Splatone: can you add users from another forest into a dummy group, and then add that group to domain admins?
[21:31:52] <kdavy_> so simple it might just work :)
[21:33:02] <Splatone> kdavy_: it hasnt worked for me yet.
[21:33:10] <Splatone> kdavy_: tried that already.
[21:33:15] <kdavy_> damn, well was still worth a try
[21:33:42] <kdavy_> do you have a domain trust set up already?
[21:33:43] <Splatone> other forest admin can be added to domain local group but domain local group cannot be added to domain admin group.
[21:33:53] <Splatone> kdavy_: domain trust works fine.
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[21:34:28] <kdavy_> ok... damn i think i remember something from my 70-647 about different types of groups - universal, domain local, etc
[21:34:50] <kdavy_> and global groups
[21:35:05] <Splatone> Yea im playing with them all :)
[21:35:31] <kdavy_> i think if anything it'd work with global groups
[21:36:00] <kdavy_> since that's the only group type that can be used in trusting domains across forests
[21:36:25] <kdavy_> and then you make the global group a member of a domain-local group
[21:36:39] <kdavy_> and assign security on the domain-local one
[21:43:24] <Splatone> kdavy_: actually the global/universal groups cant have a trusted domain user added to them.
[21:43:27] <Splatone> the domain local can.
[21:44:56] <kdavy_> right, you add the global group from the trusted domain into a domain local group of the trustee domain
[21:45:09] <kdavy_> and the users you add into the global group are in the same domain as that group
[21:47:50] <Splatone> kdavy_: ive gotten that far.
[21:48:05] <Splatone> The trick is getting the domain local group into the domain admins global group.
[21:48:13] <Splatone> which doesnt work.
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[21:51:32] <Splatone> only a global group can be added to the domain admin group and the domain local group cannot be added to the global group.
[21:51:44] <Splatone> Its restarted.  GO MS.
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[21:52:27] <kreign> kdavy, http://www.anandtech.com/show/3997/ocz-revodrive-x2-review/3
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[22:04:54] <kdavy_> lol awesome
[22:05:58] <kdavy_> kreign, not bad, but still thats previous gen sandforce chips
[22:07:49] <kreign> kdavy, yeah.
[22:08:10] <kreign> kdavy, that means it'll be like $200 soon when the next gen comes out right? :P
[22:08:22] <kreign> I'll take previous generation; it's still faster than rotating rust.
[22:08:42] <kdavy_> no, the next gen will be $900 because all Flash factories in Japan got destroyed by the earthquake
[22:10:04] <kdavy_> sooo, who's in on the super early bird pricing for Briforum 2011?
[22:10:22] <kdavy_> Splatone?
[22:11:18] <Splatone> kdavy_: think I may have figured it out.
[22:11:28] <Splatone> I wish I could go to briforum.
[22:11:40] <Splatone> I might be able to do synergy this year..
[22:12:33] <Splatone> the administrators group is the key.
[22:12:39] <Splatone> which is a domain local group.
[22:12:56] <Splatone> add domain admins from trusted forest into administrators group and BAM things work.
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[22:31:47] <tabularasa> kdavy: yeah, i had to call ingram to figure out the repeater stuff.. there is no mention of the "repeater" on the citrix site, just the branch repeater..
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[22:37:44] <kreign> kdavy, uh what? =all= flash factories in japan? I wasn't aware flash was even made in japan right now...
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